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Guide to Terrorism
First of all, it takes more skill to be a terrorist organization, than just a normal nation, that is, if you do things correctly. Your people aren’t in just one nation. They are scattered throughout the planet, or sometimes, in space, for all those space pirates out there. In order to be an organized terrorist organization, you need to be at least a decent RP’er, being able to RP your arrival of cells into other nations. But there are some key points you need to know first, before you do it.

Rule #1: I can’t stress this enough. Ask the nation you want to RP with if they would like to RP an attempted terror attack, or even a successful attack. Sending a telegram to the host is probably the best way to do it.

Rule #2: You can’t just bring a nuclear bomb or a dirty bomb through a border. Most nations would somehow figure that out, especially now-a-days with all of these terrorist nations arising. Security among the world is at an all-time high.

Rule #3: Be creative when RP’ing the events that lead up to the attack. Don’t just be like, “Jason brought the bomb to the mall, and he detonated it”. That’s not very creative at all. The point of RP’ing is to draw in new, and interested nations with the way that your RP. If you show off your skills on roleplaying, other nations will notice that, and respect will be gained on your part.

Rule #4: This is one rule that applies for everything that has to do with roleplaying. Do not type in all caps! I don't care if its just the title of your thread. All you have to do is press one button to turn it off. It’s that easy. You will lose much respect for that. Most nations do not take this very lightly.

Rule #5: Do not make your first post as a warning to all nations that you are going to destroy everything and anyone who opposes you. No one likes an arrogant terrorist. I mean, what terrorist organization makes a news report to the world saying that? Barely anyone. Sure, Al Qaeda uses Al Jazeera (sp?) to announce their plans, but they don’t come out to every nation and threaten them.

Rule #6: Majority of nations on Nation States agree that a hidden terrorist nation, such as The Secular Resistance and The Carpathian States, is best. They secretly plan their attacks, very stealthily, and they make it look good. Try to keep your nation low-profile while you plan on exactly what you want to do.

Rule #7: Do not, I repeat, do not make a post about an attack upon an unfortunate nation, 3 sentences long. Include dialogue between the terrorists committing the act, or if there is just 1 person committing the act, at least give everyone an insight on what exactly they are thinking. It draws more interest into the roleplay.

Rule #8: There are many ways you can RP the arrival of your terrorists at a nation’s border. You can ask the other nation that you would like to RP the guards at the border, or you can just leave that to the other nation. Make sure to plan everything with the other nation or nations so that there is no confusion on to what is to happen.

Rule #9: This is very important. Not all terrorists’ attacks are successful. Make sure to roleplay a few failures to show that you aren’t the perfect terrorist org. No one is.

Rule #10: It is not a good idea to announce to the world that you want to create a terrorist alliance. Asking the world to help you to create terrorism isn't the best idea. You are making a target for yourself. If anything, telegram nations, instead of posting in the Forums, to create an alliance. Also, it would be a big bonus for you to create an RP with the other terrorist organization (talk to them about it before the fact by sending them a telegram) about your possible alliance and coordination of terrorist strikes.

Rule #11: The whole point of creating terrorist nations is to promote a certain cause that you feel should be enforced. For example, some of the terrorist organizations in the Middle East use the "Destruction of Israel" as their cause. Terrorist organizations don't exist just to 'terrorize' people, there's always a cause. I don't care what it is....it could be to promote equal rights for cows. Whatever floats your boat.

Rule #12: For goodness sake, spell everything correctly. If you want people to respect you, you need to be able to spell things correctly, so that people can understand what you are trying to say. There are many ways to spellcheck, such as typing in Microsoft Word, and spell checking it there, or even using a dictionary. This is probably one of the most important rules.

State Sponsored Terror
What sort of terrorism are you involved in? there are 2 priamry choices:
State sponsored terrorism: Here you ahve all the back of a government with the funds and access to weapons that coems with that, however if you play this way then you have a issue in that you can be struck back at by conventional means.

A Terrorist Organization
No nation; makeshift bases in other people's territory; limited funding (unless you get into organized crime or get "charitable" aid from sectors of a community) and limited personnel. In short, more difficult to organize but ultimately safer as you don't have valuable things like economies to be destroyed (although you could have funding issues).

Admitadly there are areas where the lines can become blurred but it should really be emphasised that using terrorism as a means of trying to strike your enemies without possible risk isn't exactly good RP.

point/reporting/impact of terrorism
To the average person a terrorist attack actually has minimal impact in thier daily lives. Most people are perfectly capable of getting on with their daily lives unconcerned by the fact that they stand a good chance of being a victim. Also consider targets, in a US style presidential democracy. The death of the president is a major problem, but the death of the Prime minister in a UK style parlimentary system? Much much less.

On the issue of impact on the public, also consider news reporting. With just about all of the nations on NS having thier own news media, you are unlikely to experience the issue of foreign media pushing theories and of course, it is entirely up to the receiving nation how his govenrment informs thier people (your well planned car bomb might end up being merely a major gas leak as far as a populance is concerned, and of course there might not be any sinister spin in that, the investigative forces might just very incompetant).

"One Man's Terrorist Is Another Man's Freedom Fighter"-Attributed to Tom Clancy

The Different Types Of Terror Organizations
What this means, is that you don't have to play a Terrorist Organization whose sole purpose is Money, Terror, or Destroying The Infidels.

Maybe your "Terrorist" Organization actually has really bad PR- they're fighting an Evil and Oppressive Government, or perhaps they're even fighting another Terrorist Organisation (I don't beleive for a moment that ever Terrorist Organization in the world gets along with each other...), and they've been labelled "Terrorists" to garner sympathy for the Evil Government.

Remember, the Maquis (The French Resistance in WWII) were regarded as Terrorists by the Nazis, and punished accordingly.

Perhaps your Organization deliberately DOESN'T Target civillians? You might be fighting to free the Oppressed Peoples of South Moldavia, but blowing them up isn't going to endear them to your cause. On the other hand, a war is nothing without soldiers, and if the soldiers can be convinced to go home, there is no war. See: Russian Involvement in WWI, Italian Involvement in World War II.

Don't be afraid to have a sense of humur... no-one actually takes Ernst Stavro Blofeld seriously, but he ranks as one of the greatest Bond Villains, and easily qualifies as a Terrorist.

"Crime Pays, as long as you have a sponsor"-Harry Medfly, from the TV series "Duckman"

Suggestions on Further Information
Whether that sponsor is the Government of North Moldavia, SPECTRE, or a Consortium of Shady Businesspeople, you still need some of that proverbial "phat cash" to run your operations. Come up with a convincing way of acquiring it... Read Frederick Forsyth's novels "The Day Of The Jackal" and "The Dogs of War" for ideas on how to fund a "Counter-Government" Organisation on the sly, or at least in a creative manner.

"I've seen waaaay to many Bond Films to know that you never reveal your plans, no matter how close you think you are to winning."-Azrael (Jason Lee), in "Dogma"

Heed this advice well. What happens when The Villain reveals his plans? The Good Guy thwarts them. The British SIS work on a theory called "Need to know". If you don't Need to Know, then you can't accidentally let anything slip or compromise security. The less your enemies know, the less they can do to stop you.

"They blew it up! They blew it all up!" Charlton Heston in "The Planet Of The Apes"

Nuclear Weapons are cliched and passe. Find something else to use on your enemies. Propaganda, viruses, or even cutting the electricity supply off can all be equally effective, and bring fewer international repercussions... Sometimes.

List of Known RL Terrorist Groups
Animal Liberation Front (http://www.animalliberationfront.com/)
Fatah (http://www.us-israel.org/jsource/Terrorism/Fatah.html)
Abu Sayyaf (http://www.ict.org.il/inter_ter/orgdet.cfm?orgid=3)
Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade (http://cfrterrorism.org/groups/alaqsa.html)
Armed Islamic Group (http://www.ict.org.il/inter_ter/orgdet.cfm?orgid=7)
Asbat al-Ansar (http://www.cdi.org/terrorism/asbat.cfm)
Aum Supreme Truth (http://www.terrorismfiles.org/organisations/aum_supreme_truth.html)
Abu Nidal Organization (http://www.terrorismfiles.org/organisations/abu_nidal_organization.html)
Al Qaeda (http://www.terrorismfiles.org/organisations/al_qaida.html)
Basque Fatherland and Liberty (http://www.terrorismfiles.org/organisations/basque_fatherland_and_liberty.html)
Hamas (http://www.terrorismfiles.org/organisations/hamas.html)

List of Nation States Terrorist Groups
The Secular Resistance (DSRO) (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=358744)
Inner Heaven (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/target=display_nation/nation=Inner%20Heaven)
GLA Terrorists (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/93895/page=display_nation/nation=gla_terrorists)
EFFOC (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/target=display_nation/nation=EFFOC)
Karzikistan (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/-1/page=display_nation/nation=karzikistan)

Terrorist Regions
Heaven's Rim (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/93895/page=display_region/region=heavens_rim)


Iuthian Response to a n00b terrorist attack on ViZion and suggestions on improvement
-Well done, you have successfully ignored all of ViZions' defenses and efforts to stop terrorism in his nation, you have failed to even bother looking into his nations security and as such I am going to assume your men died trying to get into a nation which is not only locked down but highly mobilised and vigilant against this sort of attack...

-Seriously, if you are going to use terrorism at least but the effort into it, I'm tired of people creating terrorist puppets and then posting five lines are RP to show that they didn't even research the nation they are attacking...

-The fact this is your first post also suggests to me that this organisation will lack support from a real nation, but instead has just "appeared" out of no where...

-Simply put... I don't think I can acknowledge this and I would advise you to at least:

-Explain your organization in a OOC thread (labelled OOC) so that we know you are not just another random puppet commited to a single terror act.

-Actually look into the defences you may have to get past or at least describe how you are going to try and get into a nation.

-Allow ViZion to at least RP his defences, you know, you avoid his defences, he tries to track you down, you avoid it... ect.

-Explain how you smuggle weapons into the nation, how you hide and how you attempt to find out information for your target.

-Finally, RP how you are going to try and attack the target without being caught or killed, allowing ViZion to RP defence.


*This isn't a competative game, it's a game where you tell a story... details are ment to be part of that story, working together to make a fun and interesting thread about an attack done for reasons... using a puppet which doesn't explain it's motive or goals is pretty damn anoying because it's not a story, it's a random attack with no effort put into it.*

Definition of Terrorism
1. Terrorism is a tactic of violence that targets civilians, with the objective of forcing an enemy to favorable terms, by creating fear, demoralization, or political discord in the attacked population.
2. "Terrorism" is also used as a pejorative characterisation of an enemy's attacks as conforming to an immoral philosophy of violence, in a manner outside of warfare, or prohibited in the laws of war.

The use of the term terrorism or terrorist is politically weighed, because of the universally negative connotation of harming civilians. A nation that supports terrorism may then tend to dissociate itself from the term, by using neutral or even positive terms to characterize its combatants —such as fighters or freedom fighters —both of which can be ambiguous terms for describing terrorist actors.

Terrorist is a label for one who personally is involved in an act of terrorism. Terrorist tactics may also be used by dissident groups or other non-state actors to achieve political ends or for purposes of extortion. The term "terrorism" originated from the French 18th century word terrorisme (under the Terror).


Hackers (not a 133713, but an author) Typology of Terrorists

Type of terrorist: Crazy
Motive/goal: Clear only to the perpitrator
Willing to negotiate?: Possible
Expectation of survival: Strong, but not based in reaility

Type of terrorist: Criminal
Motive/goal: Personial Gain/profit
Willing to negotiate?: Usually
Expectation of survival: Strong

Type of terrorist: Crusader
Motive/goal: Higher Cause (usually a blend of religious and political)
Willing to negotiate?: Seldom
Expectation of survival: Minimal, death often offers rewards in the afterlife

Types of Terrorism, by Cyndy Combs

Type: Mass Terror
-Endemic
-Authorized
-Enforcement
-Responsive
Commited by: Political Leaders (EG: Idi Amin's role in Ugonda)
Target:General Population
Tactics:Coercion, orginized, or unorginized

Type: Dynastic Assassination
Commited by: Individuals or Groups (EG Russian Anarchists)
Target:Head of State, or ruiling Elite
Tactic:Very selective violence

Type:Random Terror
Commited By:Individuals or Groups (EG the 9/11 attacks in NYC)
Target:Anyone in the wrong place at the wrong time
Tactics:Bombs in cafes, markets, and similer places

Type:Focused Random Terror
Commited By:Individuals or Groups (EG PIRA and UDF bombings in No Ireland)
Target: Members of the oppisition
Tactics: Bombs in specific cafes and markets

Type:Tactical Terror
Commited By:Revolutionary Movements(EG M-19's attack on Colombian justices)
Target:The Goverment
Tactics:Attacls on politically attractive targets

Terrorist Causes by Cyndy Combs
-Religious Fanatacism
-Anarchism
-Neo-Nazism/Neo-Facism
-Separatism
-Nstionalism
-Issue Orientation
-Idealogical Mercenaries
-Pathological Terrorists
-Counter-terror terrorists

These are the way real life terrorists operate, if roleplaying a terrorist attacks, understanding some of the types, tactics and targets of terrorists would be in your best interest. Use these to "Stay IC" if doing a terror attack
-find out why you're doing it (ie cause list)
-choose a type of terrorist to be (ie type list)
-play that role well (ie a "crazy" might not want to deal, but a criminal always does)
-When you have your role, choose the type of terror act you want to cimmit(Iie type list)


Important: No, I am not a terrorist organization, but I feel that this is necessary to create more successful roleplays of terrorist attacks, failed or successful.


I would like to thank the following for their help in creating this Guide:
Crookfur (info on the different types of terrorism and the impact it has)
Roycelandia (background on terrorist groups/freedom fighters)
Iuthia (suggestions for new terrorist group)
Followers of Phoenix (definition of terrorism)
Transnapastain (types of terrorism)

.::BUMP::.

Wonderful, I agree on all points!

Even when the terrorist is your millitary in civ cloths =P!

OOC: Thank you, Euroslavia! It's about time a terrorist's guide was posted. I'm getting sick of reading about terrorists who just attack random stuff for no reason (yes, it does bug me).

Very good! I hope they take it into account and we stop having all these n00bs trying to blow up the world.

And... friendly BUMP :D

Good idea. However, I recommend opening the terror academy under a puppet nation so it doesn't tarnish your reputation.

One thing that goes without saying, but gets ignored by most n00b terrorists.

Terrorist factions have long-term objectives that they are trying to achieve!

They are not black-and-white psychos who kill people just for the sake of terrorism!

If I hear one more announcement of terrorists whose only goal is to 'spread terrorism and fear', then I may spontaneously combust.

Nanakaland: True, but I'm afraid it may be too late. Although, I will reinterate that I am only going to aid terrorist nations in the Role Play aspect of Nation States. I refuse to help any of the nations in the actual attacks though. I'm only trying to spice up the RP's as they have lost their flavor recently.

Nimzonia: Very true, I'll add another Rule for that. Thank you.

*tag*

i may have to send a puppet through this....

I may have to create a puppet to send through it. :) Or just use one of my other puppets. :wink:

If it's all OOC, all about the "theory" of RPing, then it might be better placing it in Gameplay (ask a friendly mod if he can move the topic, so it's not duplicated).

It's best that it isn't moved though, because most people ignore Gameplay. It needs to be in II because thats where majority of the terrorist attacks occur.

Nice job on the Guidelines Euroslavia...hopefully the aspiring terrorist nations will either follow your rules or be a normal nation.

Edit: Congrats on the sticky!

If it's all OOC, all about the "theory" of RPing, then it might be better placing it in Gameplay (ask a friendly mod if he can move the topic, so it's not duplicated).

This is a common misconception.

The Gameplay forum is not for discussion of RolePlay. The Gameplay forum is for discussion of in-game (i.e. non-forum, non-RP-related) activities).

The proper forum for OOC threads on RolePlay is NationStates. However, I agree that it should be allowed to stay in II.

This has been an OOC post.

tag

Forum added.

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=124333&highlight=
is and example of a bad Terrorist RP

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=124333&highlight=
is and example of a bad Terrorist RP

added, thank you

more examples added, along with a new rule, Rule #12.

A good giude but there are a few more issues:

My main beef would be this:
What sort of terrorism are you involved in? there are 2 priamry choices:
State sponsored terrorism: Here you ahve all the back of a government with the funds and access to weapons that coems with that, however if you play this way then you have a issue in that you can be struck back at by conventional means.

A terrorist organisation: No nation, makeshift bases in other people's territory, limited funding (unless you get into organised crime or get "charitable" aid from sectors of a community) and limited personel. In short more difficult to organise but ultimatly safer as you don't have valuable things like economies to be destoryed (although you could have funding issues).

Admitadly there are areas where the lines can become blurred but it should really be emphasised that using terrorism as a means of trying to strike your enemies without possible risk isn't exactly good RP.

My second issue is the point/reporting/impact of terrorism: To the average person a terrorist attack actually has minimal impact in thier daily lives, msot people are perfectly capable of getting on with thier daily lives uncocnerned by the fact that they stand a good chance of being a victim. Also consider targets, in a US style presidential democracy the deaht of the president is a mjor problem but the death of the Prime minister in a UK style parilementary system? much much less.

On the issue of impact on the public, also cosnider news reporting, with just about all of the nations on NS having thier own news media you are unlikely to experience the issue of foreign media pushing theories and of course it is entirely up to the receiving nation how his govenrment informs thier people (your well planned car bomb might end up being merely a major gas leak as far as a populance is concerned, and of course there might not be any sinister spin in that, the investigative forces might just very incompetant).


just a few issues that have flown out of my brain as i read this...

Great guide. This should be stickyed.

A good giude but there are a few more issues:

My main beef would be this:
What sort of terrorism are you involved in? there are 2 priamry choices:
State sponsored terrorism: Here you ahve all the back of a government with the funds and access to weapons that coems with that, however if you play this way then you have a issue in that you can be struck back at by conventional means.

A terrorist organisation: No nation, makeshift bases in other people's territory, limited funding (unless you get into organised crime or get "charitable" aid from sectors of a community) and limited personel. In short more difficult to organise but ultimatly safer as you don't have valuable things like economies to be destoryed (although you could have funding issues).

Admitadly there are areas where the lines can become blurred but it should really be emphasised that using terrorism as a means of trying to strike your enemies without possible risk isn't exactly good RP.

My second issue is the point/reporting/impact of terrorism: To the average person a terrorist attack actually has minimal impact in thier daily lives, msot people are perfectly capable of getting on with thier daily lives uncocnerned by the fact that they stand a good chance of being a victim. Also consider targets, in a US style presidential democracy the deaht of the president is a mjor problem but the death of the Prime minister in a UK style parilementary system? much much less.

On the issue of impact on the public, also cosnider news reporting, with just about all of the nations on NS having thier own news media you are unlikely to experience the issue of foreign media pushing theories and of course it is entirely up to the receiving nation how his govenrment informs thier people (your well planned car bomb might end up being merely a major gas leak as far as a populance is concerned, and of course there might not be any sinister spin in that, the investigative forces might just very incompetant).


just a few issues that have flown out of my brain as i read this...

very good, i didn't think of this before. Would you mind if I added this to my Guide? Of course, I'd give you credit for it too.

Its cool and i'm chuffed that my ramblings haven't just been ignored as per usual...

Its cool and i'm chuffed that my ramblings haven't just been ignored as per usual...

I very much respect everyone's opinions, and an very open-minded when it comes to contributions, as I don't know everything about terrorism.

Some thoughts of my own:

"One Man's Terrorist Is Another Man's Freedom Fighter"-Attributed to Tom Clancy

What this means, is that you don't have to play a Terrorist Organisation whose sole purpose is Money, Terror, or Destroying The Infidels.

Maybe your "Terrorist" Organisation actually has really bad PR- they're fighting an Evil and Oppressive Government, or perhaps they're even fighting another Terrorist Organisation (I don't beleive for a moment that ever Terrorist Organistion in the world gets on with each other...), and they've been labelled "Terrorists" to garner sympathy for the Evil Government.

Remember, the Maquis (The French Resistance in WWII) were regarded as Terrorists by the Nazis, and punished accordingly.

Perhaps your Organisation deliberately DOESN'T Target civillians? You might be fighting to free the Opressed Peoples of South Moldavia, but blowing them up isn't going to endear them to your cause. On the other hand, a war is nothing without soldiers, and if the soldiers can be convinced to go home, there is no war. See: Russian Involvement in WWI, Italian Involvement in World War II. 8)

Don't be afraid to have a sense of humour... no-one actually takes Ernst Stavro Blofeld seriously, but he ranks as one of the greatest Bond Villains, and easily qualifies as a Terrorist.

"Crime Pays, as long as you have a sponsor"-Harry Medfly, from the TV series "Duckman"

Whether that sponsor is the Government of North Moldavia, SPECTRE, or a Consortium of Shady Businesspeople, you still need some of that proverbial "phat ca$h" to run your operations. Come up with a convincing way of acquiring it... Read Frederick Forsyth's novels "The Day Of The Jackal" and "The Dogs of War" for ideas on how to fund a "Counter-Government" Organisation on the sly, or at least in a creative manner.

"I've seen waaaay to many Bond Films to know that you never reveal your plans, no matter how close you think you are to winning."-Azrael (Jason Lee), in "Dogma"

Heed this advice well. What happens when The Villain reveals his plans? The Good Guy thwarts them. The British SIS work on a theory called "Need to know". If you don't Need to Know, then you can't accidentally let anything slip or compromise security. The less your enemies know, the less they can do to stop you.

"They blew it up! They blew it all up!"Charlton Heston in "The Planet Of The Apes"

Nuclear Weapons are cliched and passe. Find something else to use on your enemies. Propaganda, Viruses, or even cutting the electricity supply off can all be equally effective, and bring fewer international repercussions... Sometimes. :D

very good information. I definitely gotta add that. Thanks for your contribution.

Very good Euroslavia. NS needed this.

This will stop terror n00bs.

Euroslav,
Check the academy site.

Counter Terrorism RP Example, judge it for yourself:

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=122938&highlight=

Old Quote, shouted at a newbie:

Well done, you have successfully ignored all of ViZions defences and efforts to stop terrorism in his nation, you have failed to even bother looking into his nations security and as such I am going to assume your men died trying to get into a nation which is not only locked down but highly mobilised and vigilant against this sort of attack...

Seriously, if you are going to use terrorism at least but the effort into it, I'm tired of people creating terrorist puppets and then posting five lines are RP to show that they didn't even research the nation they are attacking...

The fact this is your first post also suggests to me that this organisation will lack support from a real nation, but instead has just "appeared" out of no where...

Simply put... I don't think I can acknowledge this and I would advise you to at least:

> Explain your organisation in a OOC thread (laballed OOC) so that we know you are not just another random puppet commited to a single terror act.

> Actually look into the defences you may have to get past or at least describe how you are going to try and get into a nation.

> Allow ViZion to at least RP his defences, you know, you avoid his defences, he tries to track you down, you avoid it... ect.

> Explain how you smuggle weapons into the nation, how you hide and how you attempt to find out information for your target.

> Finally, RP how you are going to try and attack the target without being caught or killed, allowing ViZion to RP defence.


This isn't a competative game, it's a game where you tell a story... details are ment to be part of that story, working together to make a fun and interesting thread about an attack done for reasons... using a puppet which doesn't explain it's motive or goals is pretty damn anoying because it's not a story, it's a random attack with no effort put into it.

An old quote from when I used to tell idiot terrorists off... possibly a few things you've missed, maybe not (I'm giving you alot of my old suggestions here, just to see what you can take from them)

Will post more if I can find it... or think about it, but I've been involved in making alot of dumb terrorist attacks know they are being ignored for poor RP...


An example of a OOC thread detailing a possible terrorist organsation (run by me, the player, but not afilated with Iuthia at all, a different nation supports them)

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2972104#2972104

very good information. I definitely gotta add that. Thanks for your contribution.

Glad to help! Excellent thread, BTW.... It really should have been stickied by now. Anyone?

*Prays that people will take heed of thread*

*Takes notes...*

Heed taken!

very well written. Good job

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=135548&highlight=
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=130891&highlight=

good entry rp's
and well done

THis is interesting. Instead of some terrorist nOOb saying hahaha I blew your nation up!!! It can be more exiting and more realistic. Good idea Euroslavia even if I do not like terrorism.

very good information. I definitely gotta add that. Thanks for your contribution.

Glad to help! Excellent thread, BTW.... It really should have been stickied by now. Anyone?

Well, this probably isn't getting stickied, knowing the mods. Request it in the Moderation forum. I know how hard it is to get a sticky. I have one. :wink:

~TaG~

Friendly BUMP... hoping that all wannabe terrorists heed the advice.

I made a good rpg? I thought it was whack compared to some other rpgs...
So, is there anything I can fix to do better? Or am I doing just fine...?

You left Islamic Jihad off your list. They are RL terrorist group.

whoa, it got stickied......sweet!

nice!

Congrats on the sticky.

One warning though: Stickies get spammed. It's happened to me several times. Be prepared to report any spamming in the Moderation forum.

1. Terrorism is a tactic of violence that targets civilians, with the objective of forcing an enemy to favorable terms, by creating fear, demoralization, or political discord in the attacked population.
2. "Terrorism" is also used as a pejorative characterisation of an enemy's attacks as conforming to an immoral philosophy of violence, in a manner outside of warfare, or prohibited in the laws of war.

The use of the term terrorism or terrorist is politically weighted, because of the universally negative connotation of harming civilians. A nation that supports terrorism may then tend to dissociate itself from the term, by using neutral or even positive terms to characterize its combatants —such as fighters or freedom fighters —both of which can be ambiguous terms for describing terrorist actors.

Terrorist is a label for one who personally is involved in an act of terrorism. Terrorist tactics may also be used by dissident groups or other non-state actors to achieve political ends or for purposes of extortion. The term "terrorism" originated from the French 18th century word terrorisme (under the Terror).

More info about terrorism in general; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism

Congratulations on the sticky.

You left Islamic Jihad off your list. They are RL terrorist group.

I'm not quite finished with adding all of the RL terrorist groups onto the thread, but thanks for the reminder.

1. Terrorism is a tactic of violence that targets civilians, with the objective of forcing an enemy to favorable terms, by creating fear, demoralization, or political discord in the attacked population.
2. "Terrorism" is also used as a pejorative characterisation of an enemy's attacks as conforming to an immoral philosophy of violence, in a manner outside of warfare, or prohibited in the laws of war.

The use of the term terrorism or terrorist is politically weighted, because of the universally negative connotation of harming civilians. A nation that supports terrorism may then tend to dissociate itself from the term, by using neutral or even positive terms to characterize its combatants —such as fighters or freedom fighters —both of which can be ambiguous terms for describing terrorist actors.

Terrorist is a label for one who personally is involved in an act of terrorism. Terrorist tactics may also be used by dissident groups or other non-state actors to achieve political ends or for purposes of extortion. The term "terrorism" originated from the French 18th century word terrorisme (under the Terror).

More info about terrorism in general; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism

Congratulations on the sticky.

Thanks for the information!

Hackers (not a 133713, but an auther) Typology of Terrorists

Type of terrorist: Crazy
Motive/goal: Clear only to the perpitrator
Willing to negotiate?: Possible
Expectation of survival: Strong, but not based in reaility

Type of terrorist: Criminal
Motive/goal: Personial Gain/profit
Willing to negotiate?: Usually
Expectation of survival: Strong

Type of terrorist: Crusader
Motive/goal: Higher Cause (usually a blend of religious and political)
Willing to negotiate?: Seldom
Expectation of survival: Minimal, death often offers rewards in the afterlife

Types of Terrorism, by Cyndy Combs

Type: Mass terror
-Endemic
-Authorized
-Enforcement
-Responsive
Commited by: Political Leaders (EG: Idi Amin's role in Ugonda)
Target:General Population
Tactics:Coercion, orginized, or unorginized

Type: Dynastic Assassination
Commited by: Individuals or Groups (EG Russian Anarchists)
Target:Head of State, or ruiling Elite
Tactic:Very selective violence

Type:Random Terror
Commited By:Individuals or Groups (EG the 9/11 attacks in NYC)
Target:Anyone in the wrong place at the wrong time
Tactics:Bombs in cafes, markets, and similer places

Type:Focused Random Terror
Commited By:Individuals or Groups (EG PIRA and UDF bombings in No Ireland)
Target: Members of the oppisition
Tactics: Bombs in specific cafes and markets

Type:Tactical Terror
Commited By:Revolutionary Movements(EG M-19's attack on Colombian justices)
Target:The Goverment
Tactics:Attacls on politically attractive targets

Terrorist Causes by Cyndy Combs
-Religious Fanatacism
-Anarchism
-Neo-Nazism/Neo-Facism
-Separatism
-Nstionalism
-Issue Orientation
-Idealogical Mercenaries
-Pathological Terrorists
-Counter-terror terrorists

These are the way real life terrorists operate, if roleplaying a terrorist attacks, understanding some of the types, tactics and targets of terrorists would be in your best interest. Use these to "Stay IC" if doing a terror attack
-find out why you're doing it (ie cause list)
-choose a type of terrorist to be (ie type list)
-play that role well (ie a "crazy" might not want to deal, but a criminal always does)
-When you have your role, choose the type of terror act you want to cimmit(Iie type list)

--- EDIT: D*mn it. I found out that a stupid article I read a year ago is wrong after I did some independant varification on Google. ---

Tip:

-stan is a suffix meaning peace. There are at least seven RL countries ending in -stan, including Afghanistan and Pakistan. However, adding -stan to the end of your nation's name does not automatically make it an Islamic terrorist group.

Huh. I thought -stan meant land or country, as in Afghanistan= land of the Afghani people.

I too was under that impression... "-Stan" means "Land" or "Place.

You should put up a list of all the terrorist organisations on NS, and info on them, that would be extremely great, especcialy as im Co-leader of the GDI and i need to be able to have the info i need to attack any terrorists that attack me or members of the Alliance. I can help you out with that one if you want, and get some info on the nations if needed...

I know alot of terrorist nations. Perhaps I can make one

Thats a great idea HP! If you need help then TG me, i can search for a few nations, do you think it would be better on a separate thread through HP?

Seperate thread because the list will be forgotten in this thread because of all the other posts in here.

OK, HP when your done TG it to me and ill just look through it. Also, if you want any help just TG me what you want me to find out. Thats all, oh yeah, i forgot, ill write up part of the list for you if you want.

very well. I have made a nice list and I hope some other people will look at it since I'm sure lots of pieces are still missing.

This list would be OOC wouldn't it?

You may use the evidence it. It is scattered around and no one is going to search through it to find the stuff you need. It's only to make it easier for everyone who deals with terrorism.

You should put up a list of all the terrorist organisations on NS, and info on them, that would be extremely great, especcialy as im Co-leader of the GDI and i need to be able to have the info i need to attack any terrorists that attack me or members of the Alliance. I can help you out with that one if you want, and get some info on the nations if needed...

I was actually thinkin about it, but I didn't wanna expose any new terrorist orgs. I'll just make a list of terrorist orgs that wanna be put on here.

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=137137

Crap RP plus another rant from Iuthia.

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=137137

Crap RP plus another rant from Iuthia.


i always enjoy Iuthia's rants, and I look forward to many more :D

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=137137

Crap RP plus another rant from Iuthia.


i always enjoy Iuthia's rants, and I look forward to many more :D


oops, that was my puppet.

hehe, ohwell. No worries.

:twisted: http://www.nationstates.net/cgibin/index.cgi/target=display_nation/nation=magelaw :twisted:

:twisted: :twisted: :twisted: http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/45173/page=display_region :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

I apologize for not visiting the forum lately. I am going to it right now.

Certain nations here do not want terrorist attacks on their nation. They have every right to ignore anything that they want. You didn't even ask Iuthia if he wanted to RP a terrorist attack. I've put up with many attacks, but right now, I don't want anymore, for now, because I don't want people to think that my nation is poorly defended, or an unsafe place to live. There are many reasons to ignore a terrorist attack, especially when it was so poorly RP'ed.


But anyways, I would appreciate it if everyone kept their arguments out of this thread. Start a new one.

Heh, I've had a nation or two ask me if I wanted a terrorist RP... mostly I ask them what they want to RP and where it's going to go so I can make sure things run smoothly and that we can write a good story.

One of them wanted to get into my nation so they could start terrorism on any nazi's I had... you know, like a small minority of people in the nation that are anti-social.

Another, more recently, is thinking of putting spies into my nation. They are willing to listen to the information I give them about my nation and the problems they will face... ulimately they will suceed for a long period of time before being discovered, causing an international incident.


Everyone on IRC and most of my allies in NS agree that NS is about the story; when you fight an "enemy" the OOC objective isn't to win, but to have a story where both nations are battling it out and telling a story about war.

I currently am at war, and The Volga has some Terrorist like fighters in my nation, pulling Viet Cong style attacks, hes doing a very good job of it i would say

if anyone wnats a good read for a RP

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=133333&highlight=

[ Of course no defense is inpenetrable, but that doesn't give you an auto-entry into a country. Most countries here aren't the EU or US where you can go in and out pretty much at your leasure, they have stricter travel standards. That's why you RP, to probe defenses and find holes. Most good terrorists will get an occupation or find an excuse to be around their target to find weaknesses over time. Terrorists also don't use high-profile weapons, regardless of what the media would tell you, they improvise and adapt to their surroundings and use what they have at hand (this is why the Oklahoma City and 9/11 attacks were so successful.) Euroslavia provided links to good RP, read them and find what real terrorist RPs are about.]

Don't forget to buy the Homeland Security Guide to Terrorism at your local bookstore!

Don't forget to buy the Homeland Security Guide to Terrorism at your local bookstore!

OOC: Are you from Kennebunkport, Maine? If so, I go there every year because my grandma used to live there. It's an amazing place...

This thread has been cleaned.

The HLF discussion is here (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=138944).

Yeah cleaned of just me. Suppose the mods would never do it to Iuthia as he is blatenly a puppet of a mod. Also it is the Real HLF not just HLF. How would you like it if I called you Most Glorious Cack.

Yeah cleaned of just me. Suppose the mods would never do it to Iuthia as he is blatenly a puppet of a mod. Also it is the Real HLF not just HLF. How would you like it if I called you Most Glorious Cack.

cute, real cute, That wasnt the brightest thing to do, they moved ALL of the argument, you're...."points" along with our rebuttles to another thread, and, im telling you, post here ONE MORE TIME with an insult, flame, useless arguments that do not belong here and we will be forced to ask the mods to take the time to properly ensure that you do not bother us again. Keep your conspiercy theories to yourself, or post them in forum 7, though by telling you that, i fear i've doomed yet another thread.

so, for the last time

PLEASE, do not clutter this sticky with useless spam, flame, conspiracy theories, or arguments. If you have a valid argument to make, please do so in the thread made for that purpose.

any further actions will be met with an appeal to the mods for your removeal. It'd be a shame to have to do that, being that you do have valid points to make, if you would just learn when and where to make them, you want an argument? you got it, in the other thread!

Also, shortening a name is commonplace around here, like callin me Trans, Euroslavia Euro or ES, calling The Most Glorious Hack, Hack or MGH....insulting him, or anyone else on this forum, isnt bright, keep it fun and nice, and we'll all be fine

Consider this our final petition to you to quit on your own and leave this thread in peace, You've bene warned once by MGH, after that, you can be deeted, dont let that happen

<---not a moderator, since it sounds like im issuing a warning, i figure i better add that in there

Yeah cleaned of just me. Suppose the mods would never do it to Iuthia as he is blatenly a puppet of a mod. Also it is the Real HLF not just HLF. How would you like it if I called you Most Glorious Cack.

cute, real cute, That wasnt the brightest thing to do, they moved ALL of the argument, you're...."points" along with our rebuttles to another thread, and, im telling you, post here ONE MORE TIME with an insult, flame, useless arguments that do not belong here and we will be forced to ask the mods to take the time to properly ensure that you do not bother us again. Keep your conspiercy theories to yourself, or post them in forum 7, though by telling you that, i fear i've doomed yet another thread.

so, for the last time

PLEASE, do not clutter this sticky with useless spam, flame, conspiracy theories, or arguments. If you have a valid argument to make, please do so in the thread made for that purpose.

any further actions will be met with an appeal to the mods for your removeal. It'd be a shame to have to do that, being that you do have valid points to make, if you would just learn when and where to make them, you want an argument? you got it, in the other thread!

Also, shortening a name is commonplace around here, like callin me Trans, Euroslavia Euro or ES, calling The Most Glorious Hack, Hack or MGH....insulting him, or anyone else on this forum, isnt bright, keep it fun and nice, and we'll all be fine

Consider this our final petition to you to quit on your own and leave this thread in peace, You've bene warned once by MGH, after that, you can be deeted, dont let that happen

<---not a moderator, since it sounds like im issuing a warning, i figure i better add that in there
Sorry who are you? Everyone is allowed to post saying my threads are crap and I make a rebut and get threatend with deletion. The HLF is another nation and I don't think it helps shortening me to him but can I call you trannie for short? Keep it fun and nice? I was having fun before Iuthia came in and but perhaps this is ignored for another reason..... What do you mean final petition, you've never posted to me before. Also if you post on the clean up thread which is my thread I will report you to be deleted for clogging up my thread.

The Real HLF,

Don't mess with mods. Please. I don't like seeing nations get deeted.

Im not I have reported Transnapastain to the mods.

This stuff will be removed soon. Leaving it for now as evidence.

Yeah cleaned of just me. Suppose the mods would never do it to Iuthia as he is blatenly a puppet of a mod. Also it is the Real HLF not just HLF. How would you like it if I called you Most Glorious Cack.

Actually, you're wrong. You really should brush up on your analogies.

HLF:The Real HLF::Hack:The Most Glorious Hack

See?

This stuff will be removed soon. Leaving it for now as evidence.

Yeah cleaned of just me. Suppose the mods would never do it to Iuthia as he is blatenly a puppet of a mod. Also it is the Real HLF not just HLF. How would you like it if I called you Most Glorious Cack.

Actually, you're wrong. You really should brush up on your analogies.

HLF:The Real HLF::Hack:The Most Glorious Hack

See?
Evidence of what? HLF: The HLF, Real HLF or TRHLF: THe Real HLF.
I think I know what the analogy of my nation is.

"Anology" not "acronym".

Hack why did you delete me?

Hack why did you delete me?

because you're spamming in my thread even when i asked you to stop.

Hack why did you delete me?

"You reap what you sow" :roll:

And it looks like we're clear!

Alright, people, back to work.....hit those books and sing up for classes today!

As a Habibite Muslim, I denounce terrorism towards all nudie bars, breweries, bars, and hamburger joints.

The mention of nudie bars may seem redundant, but Allah wants to emphasize that.

Salaam and Salami Sandwich.

Good Morning Transnapastain

Thank you for your guide to terrorism, I find it most effective and useful! :D

Good Morning Transnapastain

Good morning The Real HLF2, glad to see things returning to normal

First off, let me say that the guide is a great one.

Secondly, let me say something else. I experiment in terrorism with the nation "Terrorist Cells". I abondoned playing it a few weeks ago because, quite simply, it wasn't that great.

Terrorists are VERY hard to rp, and if your going to rp them, get yourself a purpose! Being just a random terrorist or islamic group won't cut it. You need to be able to say that your fighting for something...be it against some occupation, or whatever.

Just wanted to say that. Great job.

First off, let me say that the guide is a great one.

Secondly, let me say something else. I experiment in terrorism with the nation "Terrorist Cells". I abondoned playing it a few weeks ago because, quite simply, it wasn't that great.

Terrorists are VERY hard to rp, and if your going to rp them, get yourself a purpose! Being just a random terrorist or islamic group won't cut it. You need to be able to say that your fighting for something...be it against some occupation, or whatever.

Just wanted to say that. Great job.

Thank you....since im the only one on now woh participated, but im sure Euroslavia will appercate this too!!!

Nice guide. Look out for CTs that are like "I shhot your terrosists ded with Mpee5s. U are N00ked!". Maybe thats a little overdramatic, but you get what I mean. BTW, Its' been a while. Hows it going, my terrorist rivals?

Would using your fleet to bombard a coastal town with incendiary shells, and then when the populace come out of their burning homes, subjecting them to a barrage of toxic gas and shrapnel rounds constitute the use of terrorist tactics?

Would using your fleet to bombard a coastal town with incendiary shells, and then when the populace come out of their burning homes, subjecting them to a barrage of toxic gas and shrapnel rounds constitute the use of terrorist tactics?

of course :D

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=139466&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

i think that deserves a mention, brilliantly planned terrorist attack ruined by all you who say terrorists should get OOC info then either refuse to give it to us or not achnowledge the attack

Would using your fleet to bombard a coastal town with incendiary shells, and then when the populace come out of their burning homes, subjecting them to a barrage of toxic gas and shrapnel rounds constitute the use of terrorist tactics?

uhhh maybe

or its just inhumane tactics....but thats pretty much a random terror idea there

but, yeah....thats an acceptable way to DEAL with terrorists ;)

What a surprise Transnapastain ignoring a legitimate Terrorist RP in favour of defending an anti-terrorist. No critisism for Credonia I suppose? Of course not you only bully terrorist nations.

What a surprise Transnapastain ignoring a legitimate Terrorist RP in favour of defending an anti-terrorist. No critisism for Credonia I suppose? Of course not you only bully terrorist nations.

umm....perhaps you'd like to clarafy?

Im not aware of my involvment with Cerdonia in ANY way

Also, watch it, my man, we had a run in the 1st time, it wasnt pretty, i dont want it to happen again, please dotn start anything

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=139466&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

i think that deserves a mention, brilliantly planned terrorist attack ruined by all you who say terrorists should get OOC info then either refuse to give it to us or not achnowledge the attack
Comment please

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=139466&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

i think that deserves a mention, brilliantly planned terrorist attack ruined by all you who say terrorists should get OOC info then either refuse to give it to us or not achnowledge the attack
Comment please

heh, you know, i totaly over looked that, most likely because Euroslavia is on leave, and i dont have time to spend every waking secound of my life investigating Terrorist RP's on Nationstates...when i get to it, ill get to it

Hi everyone... I'm realy realy sorry I was inactive for a long time...
I promised a good RP with another nation, another terrorist attack against it, and I didn't do it... I'm in a WW thing right now and I put too much time in it that I'm forgetting about this place...

Btw, Euroslavia, I agree with everything you said (and I attacked you... lol).
In any case, my type of terror is something like that:

Caused by: Secularist-fanatism
Type: Focused Random Terror and Tactical Terror (like in churches in TOC, a shopping center in Ness Ziona, and soon a police station in Nes Ziona), although my attack against Euroslavia was definitely Random Terror (semi-nuclear device in his capital).
We're very organized, well funded (I go by the info-page), and spread in many places, although our core is in the Kelares-Islands, bordering Ness-Ziona (yes... again).
The population in the info-page is the number of supporters or activists.
Number of fighters is a few millions (2.5 million in the Kelares-Islands).
Our current trouble is kind of a guerilla-attrition war against Ness Ziona over the control of these islands, hence our next major attack against them (OOC info of course).

Anyways, I realy hope I can do it this week...

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Well, I'm planning to pick up a few loose ends sooner or later and RP a terrorist group.

Background:

Six years ago, when the nation of Japann was entering it's 15th straight year of recession, President Akibura swept to power on a nationalist-militarist platform.

A series of provocative remarks regarding land claims in Asia saw a group of quick-thinking powers (East Islandia, Bonstock, Agrigento, Sino, Xiaguo) to intervene, disarming Japann in the Great Asian War. Akibura could not be found after a bombing raid on Tokyo and was presumed dead. The war effort died with him.

A year later, Akibura was caught entering Tokyo International with depleted uranium. He was sentenced for treason and the manufacture of a nuclear weapon, and currently resides in prison awaiting death row.

(Now in the future, he breaks out and begins terror attacks against the agressor nations and the new Japannese government)

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=139466&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

i think that deserves a mention, brilliantly planned terrorist attack ruined by all you who say terrorists should get OOC info then either refuse to give it to us or not achnowledge the attack

no one seems to have replied to this, what a surprise

and i can bet you they wouldnt in the future

Hi everyone... I'm realy realy sorry I was inactive for a long time...
I promised a good RP with another nation, another terrorist attack against it, and I didn't do it... I'm in a WW thing right now and I put too much time in it that I'm forgetting about this place...

Btw, Euroslavia, I agree with everything you said (and I attacked you... lol).
In any case, my type of terror is something like that:

Caused by: Secularist-fanatism
Type: Focused Random Terror and Tactical Terror (like in churches in TOC, a shopping center in Ness Ziona, and soon a police station in Nes Ziona), although my attack against Euroslavia was definitely Random Terror (semi-nuclear device in his capital).
We're very organized, well funded (I go by the info-page), and spread in many places, although our core is in the Kelares-Islands, bordering Ness-Ziona (yes... again).
The population in the info-page is the number of supporters or activists.
Number of fighters is a few millions (2.5 million in the Kelares-Islands).
Our current trouble is kind of a guerilla-attrition war against Ness Ziona over the control of these islands, hence our next major attack against them (OOC info of course).

Anyways, I realy hope I can do it this week...

And there it is!
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=3169667#3169667

you are an stupid guy whow has nothing better to do than kill innocent people, you are a sick person!!! :evil:

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=139466&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

i think that deserves a mention, brilliantly planned terrorist attack ruined by all you who say terrorists should get OOC info then either refuse to give it to us or not achnowledge the attack

no one seems to have replied to this, what a surprise

anyone?

OOC: It'd be nice if you had a list of terrorists... With us inside! :P

OOC: It'd be nice if you had a list of terrorists... With us inside! :P

great idea. I updated that.

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=139466&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

i think that deserves a mention, brilliantly planned terrorist attack ruined by all you who say terrorists should get OOC info then either refuse to give it to us or not achnowledge the attack

no one seems to have replied to this, what a surprise

anyone?

You sure dont let stuff go do you?

Its kinda odd you need us to reassaure you, and let you know you're RPing went well, shouldnt you be able to do that yourself?

Just because no one bothered to look at your RP doesnt mean we have anything agisnt you, I, for one, dont, but, theres two people trying their best to run this thing, me and Euroslavia, and if something slips by us, i soo very much apolgize and beg your forgiveness [/sarcasim]

Im sorry we havent respounded to your RP (and most likely wont) because we have other things to do. I, for one, and i dont know about you, but i dont sit on nationstates every waking hour. I have things to do, like a job, classes, and even a social life.

Its not our fault someone cant RP, either as the terrorists or counter terrorists. OOC information is extremely important, and should be given, anyone who wont give it to you, most liekly isnt worth RPing with anyways

example

In one of our exams, the terrorists tried to enter my nation via a land route....i have only on land border, and its connected to a nation even more fanatical then mine, and a strong ally at that. He'd have more trouble getting into it than comming in via airliner or boat

another nation attempted to drop soliders off on my coastlines, thing about is, The region im lving in, and myself, maintane naval patrols, escort all ships into and out of regional waters, and, my sloset neighbor can see that coastline of my island with hsi naked eyes.

those too terror attacks failed. (they did pass thier exam though, because otehrwise they wrote wonderfuly) and it was because they didnt bother to ask me about my nation


now, please, LET IT GO!

but the fact is yoyu jump on any bad terrorist rp and then spam up the thread congratulationg yourselves on how well you managed to ignore the said attack. When their is a well done rp you all ignore it for no reason and start mumbling on about how they can do it when they want and when the invasion of a terrorist nation happens none of that applys to them and you all moan about how they are ruining the fun.

This thread is designed to make it seem all terorist nations are crappy rpers (except for your allys ofcourse) and they should be ignored on sight. This sticky should be fair and balanced instead of dismissing a terrorist rp as always godmoddish and should be ignored without reading it. Maybe its not the terrorists who need to go to a roleplay acadamy as that thread shows.

Whatever you say, i cant rememebr trash talking anyones RP's on here, i've always tried to offer suggestions for improvements, theres merit to be found in ANY post.

You can believe anything you wish of the thread here, you cna believe this is some massive conspiricy to keep you down, or make ourselves proud, or whatever floats your boat, amkes no diffrence to me. Its not like the ideas presented here are the rules that NS RPer's use in dealing with terrorists, id bet anything very few of the people who will choose to RP agisnt terrorists have even read this sticky, and even less have joinned the forum

As i said before, good RPing has to go two ways. If you run into someone you attempt a terror attack on and they choose not to accept it, thats up to them, but, if they allow you to do it, and wont supply you with any information, then its thier fault the RP went bad, no yours

I dont see why you presist in this. Have you nothing better to do? Why do you keep hounding me, when i've done nothing wrong to you, this si the Real HLF/2/3 thing all over again, i wouldnt be surprised if you are him/her

please, for the love of god, or money, or whatever you value, just leave me alone

also, forgot to add, i DO NOT RP as a terrorist, most likely never will, im only here because i have OOC information on terrorists, from taking classes on the subject, Also, none of my main allies have ever posted here, nor do they participate in terror RP's either

Obviously, I didn't respond, or add the thread to the Guide for a reason...so how about you stop posting in this Guide. It's not meant for arguments. If you want, start a new thread about how "unfair" we all are.

The time to act is among us to fight fire with fire.
Terrorists can no longer be allowed to act in the way they seem fit, this being in our own nations or any other who do not provoke it.
My veiws are that we unite, form an alliance, a force with a passion, with this behind us we can take the game to them untill we have reason.
Any nation who feels they need to be frontline in this historic movement please get in touch with me through reply or email sheriff_chabbs@ntlworld.com.

We need to let terrorists feel the terror, let the revolution begin.
Reaching you Honourably

Chabbs

The time to act is among us to fight fire with fire.
Terrorists can no longer be allowed to act in the way they seem fit, this being in our own nations or any other who do not provoke it.
My veiws are that we unite, form an alliance, a force with a passion, with this behind us we can take the game to them untill we have reason.
Any nation who feels they need to be frontline in this historic movement please get in touch with me through reply or email sheriff_chabbs@ntlworld.com.

We need to let terrorists feel the terror, let the revolution begin.
Reaching you Honourably

Chabbs

I don't appreciate you cross-posting your email address into this guide. You're supposed to create a new thread for that instead of promoting yourself in other peoples' threads. It's rude, so I expect you to delete this yourself. Thank You.

Any how, I'm planning a thread of this kind - a guide to terrorist organizations in the NS world.
I wanna gather info about the org's, list of attacks, maybe even 'nations most likely to ba attacked' list. :P
Anyways, I'm trying to find a time when my internet is not so slow and bitchy, so I'll be able to pass over threads in a reasonable speed.
In any case, if you wanna help, you're most welcome to.

The freedom fighters of Tzacestani

The freedom fighters of Tzacestani are a sect that worship allah,they are based on an island and have and/or are infiltrating all anti muslim goverments.They will work for anyone.They are based on a small warm island in a cove not occupied by any country.They have around 500,000 supporters who are spread out across other countries.There main island has 400 pepole on it,there are 3 helicopter gunships including an anti submarine one.About 12 tanks and the rest are either top brass,infantry or assasins.There is a large store of poisons and explosives gained from ex communist goverments and raids.

OOC:still have to do a few more upgrades.

*someone telegram me if i dont upgrade this in the next 2 days thanks*

ooc: w00t! First post!

ic: First of all, brilliant thread. Blooming marvelous, will deffinatly be helpfull.

Thourght I'd introduce myself, and this seemed the best way to do it.

The Community of Enviromental Freedom Fighters Organised Cells, or EFFOC, is a new eco-terrorist group, determined to holt the destruction of the rainforests and but an end to industrilisation.

Based in a secret location known only as the 'Garden of Eden', EFFOC has yet to make a strike. Though the high command may be in the garden of eden, EFFOC is rumoured to have supporters accross the globe whoose numbers go into the millions.

ooc: If any industrialised nation is intrested in being targeted by an eco-terrorist group (makes a change from Islamic Fundamentalists) then please TG, because I could do with some practice.

My fellow states, I am currently pursuing an aggressive campaign to stomp out the horrors of dictatorship in the Republic of Incisor by establishing a strong cener-left coalition. I have opened the diplomatic channels with Incisor and I am pursuing United Nations assisstance in this time of great urgency.

Together, the liberal world can finally send a message to the dictators that they will no longer be tolerated. That our ideals are indeed the moral choice and that they will never again threaten the stability and safety of the free world.

Please join me in this pursuit!

.....indeed

First of all, thanks for listing EFFOC in your first post. As a sticky, this will gain EFFOC great attention, and as the saying goes 'All publicity is good publicity'.

Second of all, with no offensive intended, but the thread is rather short of 'good' terrorist attacks. I would like to offer this thread,

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=147588&highlight=

Not to blow my own trumpet, but I believe it is a good example of infiltration.

Hello, The Community of EcoWarriors is similar to EFFOC. We are an Eco Terrorist Organisation committed to preventing the destruction of the environment and it's natural inhabitants (ie animals).

We are not a nation as such and own no territory, instead we are a network of linked cells in almost every country throughout the world.

This is our first attack, against Credonia: http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=149760&highlight=

If anyone is interested in harbouring us, or supplying us with funds, TG us and everything will be kept stricly top secret.

OOC: If anyone is interested in being attacked by us then TG me and it can be arranged.

I would like to be added to the Terrorist Nations list please.

OOC:

Hello, all. As you can see by the post, my name is Kaukolastan, and I have a "training ground" for both terrorists and counter-terrorists in my nation. There is a northern island, known as Geridan, that has been a long running problem for my nation. This rogue island is inhabitted by fanatical tribal groups that view my technologically advanced nation as "evil". They, every few years, attempt some attack in the north, but are almost always stopped by the ISA (a gestapo like intelligence service). Because of this, the military is usually running a low-level war on this island.

The people do not want to slaughter these indiginous, who they view as "poor savages", but they are willing to accept the constant fighting as a price to keep the battles over there, and not here. It also serves to keep the special forces and ISA battle-hardened, by providing a "small, controllable war" that battle tests the new members and keeps them in a higher state of readiness.

If interested, this could serve as a type of training "arena" for other nations wishing to LEGITIMATELY aide in the government actions of ILLEGITIMATELY aide the rebels. Both sides play dirty, and it has a Vietnam style to it (tunnels, swamps, jungle). Don't be surprised to see massacres of villages that pick the wrong side, or rogue operators waging private wars.

Rules of Play:
-Government forces have air/sea control and the tech edge. Do not give technology to the rebels beyond 1980s Soviet-style. If they begin to act as an army, they will be dealt as an army, and then they will be slaughtered by my normal military. Keep the spirit of RP intact.
-Rebels have the people's support, and rely on subterfuge, stealth, and surprise.
-Some villages have been bought off by the government, but not most.
-Napalm is biggest weapon used. No WMD.
-If the rebels leave home-field-advantage and attack Kaukolastan proper, they will be walking into a deathtrap of naval blockades, air patrols, and ISA Hunter/Killers.
-Rebels are not religiously oriented, but nationalistically. They do have a moral opposition to the "decadence" of Kaukolastan, but they ARE NOT ARABS.

This could be used as a basic "training" scenario, if Euroslavia is interested.

With all due respect, why should a terrorist organization tell the nation its oing to attack?

There is a difference between OOC and IC information. IC, they DON'T know, but the player does no, so they know you aren't pulling it out of ass space.

The Ardeyistan Free Amry
In Ardeyistan there is only a 10-20 people big "army" that will destroy our state structur but all they have made ever was to destroy a wind wheel.


P.S. Please excuse my bad english.

My apologies to everyone who has commented on this in the past few weeks. I've been in a different part of the US for the past month, and have not been able to check anything. I'm back early, and now I have lots of time to check upon everything. I already have major plans here to change the Guide, but you'll see. I will also respond to comments a.s.a.p.

how do you attack other regeins :sniper: :mp5:

how do you attack other regeins :sniper: :mp5:

Regions*


Move in then take the Delegate spot and there ya go you atacked it and now you run it how you see fit.

That is not Terrorism, that is Region Crashing. Please keep that topic seperate, or we're just making more work for the mods to have to split. :D

This is about RP'd attacks, not RL or Region Politics.

That is not Terrorism, that is Region Crashing. Please keep that topic seperate, or we're just making more work for the mods to have to split. :D

This is about RP'd attacks, not RL or Region Politics.
so how do you attack

so how do you attack
I wouldnt ask that question on this thread if i was you. The nations that post on it are viewed by some(of course not me) as perfectionists and attack threatens there perfect world of perfection and order. Be careful as they have friends in high places and your nation may not be hear tomorrow (trust me i no its happend to me).

I wouldnt ask that question on this thread if i was you. The nations that post on it are viewed by some(of course not me) as perfectionists and attack threatens there perfect world of perfection and order. Be careful as they have friends in high places and your nation may not be hear tomorrow (trust me i no its happend to me).


To whom you are referring to, I have no idea...


Nevertheless, if you have a question about this thread, or attacking in general, send me a telegram, and I'll try to help you as much as I can.

Hey ETA is not a terrorist organisation, GAL on the other hand was. You forgott the U$ Army, on the list of terrorist gangs. Willingly targeting civilians...torture...extra legal exewcutions...anti civilian bomb campagins...

Power 1 has gained posession of a small arsenal enriched uranium/Plutonium fused nuclear weapons. These unit are unlike any singular element weapon (Uranium or Plutonium). This element combination has created a weapon the likes of which this world has never seen before. Mearly one unit has the capabilty of destruction of a thousand square miles. Far superior to the 5 mile radius of a convention nuke. Purchase does not include blueprint for production of this new technology, only one singular weapon will be shipped. The number of units is small and will go fast. Unit price 20 million. 10 million discount for any fellow member of region Year of the Tidal Wave. :mp5:

I like my nation's plan to deal with those stupid "I blow you up, haha" terrorists. Give you a hint, half of my nation is either way stronger than the average person or VERY well armed (if not both)

Why isnt The HLF on the list of terrorist organisations? Probally did more damage than all the ones currently on their combined.

Alright, where do I find some decent RP'ers to come blow stuff up in my nation for a cause? Actually, I don't much care what cause or how warped it is, but a discussion beforehand OOC is rather required...

Euroslavia, were the threads that you link to in the opening page lost in the move to Jolt? I'd like to read them if they're still around here, but they're all nationstates.net links.

Euroslavia, were the threads that you link to in the opening page lost in the move to Jolt? I'd like to read them if they're still around here, but they're all nationstates.net links.


Good Point...

I'm going to have to provide new threads from Jolt. Thank you for pointing that out.

Are you prepared to make a list of states than sponsor terrorism?

If so, include Karzikistan (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/-1/page=display_nation/nation=karzikistan) as a nation that supports terrorism.


Example of Karzikistan's support for terrorism:

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=345466

I'll blow people up if they annoy me, thats what make me 1337.

I'll blow people up if they annoy me, thats what make me 1337.

Please keep your spam out of this thread.

Uh...Hi there. This is just me, declaring the fact that I've made a terrorist nation of a sort. If you've seen the film Fight Club then you'l know what it's about (If you haven't seen the film, go and see it. Now.), and I made a recruiting post recently. It was just a small rp of a man nailing a notice to a telegraph pole, the notice being the Fight Club's initial advertising. It's going to be an anarchist one, to begin with, but progressing towards more major things. We're going to go through all the stages of Fight Club training. Oh, and the difference between this and some terrorist organisations is that I'm trying to get other nations to rp a member of the club. I think someone's done a Fight Club before because the nation name 'Fight Club' was taken. Oh well. I'm not sure why I wrote this post. I guess it's a cry for approval...

Uh...Hi there. This is just me, declaring the fact that I've made a terrorist nation of a sort. If you've seen the film Fight Club then you'l know what it's about (If you haven't seen the film, go and see it. Now.), and I made a recruiting post recently. It was just a small rp of a man nailing a notice to a telegraph pole, the notice being the Fight Club's initial advertising. It's going to be an anarchist one, to begin with, but progressing towards more major things. We're going to go through all the stages of Fight Club training. Oh, and the difference between this and some terrorist organisations is that I'm trying to get other nations to rp a member of the club. I think someone's done a Fight Club before because the nation name 'Fight Club' was taken. Oh well. I'm not sure why I wrote this post. I guess it's a cry for approval...

That's actually a very interesting idea. I like it. So I'm assuming you'd like me to add you to the list, right? I wouldn't mind RP'ing a character in your fight club.

Oh...Cool. I was thinking about tging you, 'cos I've asked a couple of others. We've got 4 characters at the moment, not including mine. You'd be welcome, here's the link - http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=6919067&posted=1
I guess...urm, subconciously I might have wanted to be on the list. But that wasn't why I did it. I was bored. Besides, it could only have helped the club...

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=352730&page=1&pp=15

Example of how not to fight terrorism, Euroslavia.

This is Iuthia's puppet, OOC bitchfest on the 3 page of this mess due to the fact that the Anti-Terror people:

Automatically traced the actions from the first post, not bad in self had the following not happened.

Ortillery fired at the position, not taking civilian lives into account, technology level of the terrorist (Ortillery is post modern tech), what nation the terrorist were in and if they would be starting a war over that shit. They also seemed to have claimed damage for the player in question.


Basically put, this RP was little more then how to hijack someones thread and show of their metal terrorist crushing penises. I'm used to seeing terrorist nations pulling this shit off, not the other way around.

u r all evil ppl.i shall :sniper: u then :mp5: u and then :gundge: u and if that doesnt work, i shall :headbang: myself till i figure out a way to destroy you all, mwah ha ha ha ha. No, but anyways, dont attack me and ill leav u alone!remember :sniper: :gundge: and :mp5: u until u die if u attack em!

OMGZ SMILIES


Theres smile-wanking....and then *pointd thumb in the direction of Peackeeper* theres this guy....

Theres smile-wanking....and then *points thumb in the direction of Peackeeper* theres this guy....

These n00bs are lucky that I'm so tolerant of them. Personally, I think its really funny, but majority of other people with stickies would have reported this guy to the mods for spamming the sticky. ehh.......

lol.

Euro, please put this link - http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=358744 - Instead of my website (which is also included in this link).
Also, please add "(DSRO)" after "The Secular Resistance" in that list.

:)

Euro, please put this link - http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=358744 - Instead of my website (which is also included in this link).
Also, please add "(DSRO)" after "The Secular Resistance" in that list.

:)


Finally edited, heh. Sorry it took so long..

Guys i need some reinforsements to help me take down a evil nation called hive please respond to sausage bacon and bring as much help as you can!

I was wondering, could you include the RALM in your list of terrorist nations/groups?

Here's my factbook. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=412641)

My groups is kinda odd, doesn't fit many conventions...well, the Factbook should try to explain things.

This should really be a sticky thread...

I'll blow people up if they annoy me, thats what make me 1337.

You're about as 1337 as a wet sack of poo.

"Nstionalism" should be "Nationalism"

I only have one problem with this thread. On the RL Terrorist Gorups list where are the Irish National Liberation Army (INLA) and the Provisional Irish Republican Army (PIRA)? And don't you dare put the regular IRA on there, They have dissarmed!

I've read over both terrorism guides (suprisingly I'm not planning on starting my own terrorist organisation, just curious) and wasn't able to get the information I was looking for from either, but this guide went a bit more in-depth into the types of terrorism as opposed to how to RP it correctly so I thought it was a more appropriate place to ask.

I am wondering what the general oppinion is on state-sanctioned unconventional tactics. Terrorism does not need to be directed at civilians, or even unethical, all it implies is the use of demoralising techniques that don't fall in the scope of conventional war efforts.

For instance, if a covert operations team officially sanctioned by a nation's military branch infiltrated a foreign nation and assasinated diplomats or bombed/gassed military targets, would that be considered terrorism? What if that same covert operations team secreted a biological weapon in the capital of a nation and used it as leverage to force said nation to back down? Even though in the "pure" definition of terrorism there is nothing about civilian casualties, one example has a high potential for them and the other doesn't.


I guess what I'm trying to get at is "Does all unconventional warfare fall under the label of terrorism"?

If you deliberately attacked a civilian target, we'd consider it terrorism. And chemical or bioweapons would just cause us to glass your country regardless, so I don't think we'd bother with a designation for those.

So as long as any civilian casualties were "collateral damage" and not the intended target?

And what's so bad about chemical and biologicals? I imagine it's probably against UN weapons restrictions, but not everyone is a UN member. Or is the UN in NationStates actually prepared to attack a non-member nation over it not following UN regulations?