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Hamanas' scientists are working a weapon to change the face of modern, inexpensive warfare. Recently, in Hamanas' Theoretical Physics laboratory's particle accelerator, physicists discovered they could create a short lived singularity by bombarding two extremely dense muons and quarks into each other. The singularity lasted for a mere tenth of a trillionth of a second, but it sent the scientific community into a fury.

Using magnetic fields coupled with a new form of matter discovered from the collapsed singularity, scientists have now managed to sustain the black hole for minutes at a time now. Unfortunatley, in the test, over 30 scientists died, including the lead of the project. Luckily, with there deaths, came a realization from the scientists. By feeding a constant mass, no matter the site, the singularities can be made anywhere, and sustained indefinitley.

Hamanas chooses to be a non nuclear nation, because of the backlash one of those weapons can create, in the form of fallout and residual radiation. Nonetheless, Hamanas must be able to defend itself and be able to thwart would be attackers. Therefore, we are asking any nations with interest in such a weapon to help our research, either monetarily, or through information trade.

The cost of research so far is immense, dominating a quarter of our defense budget, but once completed, the sigularity bombs should not cost more than $30,000,000.

Secretary of Defense and Research,
Charles Reis

The CRDF research treasury will donate 2.5 billion annually to this project. We would also like to know if your resulting data has thusfar shown a means of harnessing singularities as a power source.

Although preliminary data did show energy being created, at this point the energy required to create the singularity is far greater than energy outputted. Perhaps if somehow we created a Kyrr (rotating) blackhole, more energy could be harnessed.

Another fine observation we've found is if two of these singularities are within roughly 1000km of each other, they combine in every dimension. Although this was thought originally to be a fullfledged wormhole, it was discovered that somehow both of the singularities remained intact, and were falling into one another. Interestingly enough, we could transmit radio signals through these. The energy seems to go around the singularities in a shape similar to a mobius.

Thanks for the funding. More research will be put into power production.

Ministeries of Defense and Science will provide $350,000,000 in funding each year for this project. As research progresses, we will provide more funding. Of course, we would require access to all research data.

We are also interested in the potential for power production as well as the possiblity of wormhole creation.

Thank you for your funding. Scientists have been busily exploring wormhole production. Although Hamanas is far from an agressive country, the potential for troop transport is too great to ignore. Imagine your country being able to drop a bomb that creates a tunnel. A tunnel that leads from your country to any location in the world, or perhaps space, and being able to transport anything through that, without the chance of the enemies troops transporting back? The implications are incredible.

The research team has a new head, and is continuing research at a furious pace.

While researching today, Hamanas' scientists have discovered that by feeding a Blackhole a steady stream of liquid-super conductive material, the Blackhole turns into a white hole. A white hole is the opposite of a black hole, and in laymans turns, blows things out instead of sucking them in. The energy is coming from an unknown source, likely a dimension that we cannot interact with.

Scientists have nearly mastered the technology, and have made 5 experimental reactors, which produce roughly 3000 Megavolts at 5000 amps per second. Also, our magnetic confinement technology has been improved. You can keep one of the singularities active for weeks, and quickly recreate it when it is destroyed. The reactor is roughly 300-400 times more efficient than a fusion generator.

Two of the reactors have been sent to our allies at Hamptonshire and Sileetris. They are in the process of retrofitting a powerplant for testing, as is Hamanas. So, that leaves two open generators. They'll go for 500 Million a piece. Let us know if you're interested.

Seems little hightech for a small nation. Everyone bashed me for researching sending things to other dimensions and back again, essentially teleportation, and I was over 700million.

I will, however, keep an eye on this and may support this, seeing as I focus mainly on extremely advanced technology.

Don't be surprised if alot of people completely ignore this type of research though.

I assume this is future tech? Otherwise you'll probably get ignored.

OOC: This isn't as advanced as you might think. If the United States had not put so much research into traditional weapons technology in the past, then this might not be all that unfeasible in today's world.

Also, many nations start researching Nuclear Weapons at around this size. Although glaring differences are there, the technology would essentially be the same. Although the power production capabilities of black and whiteholes eludes me, I'm sure there is some way :/

Sorry to keep adding on, but also, there are huge, huge differences between what we're talking about. Teleportation and dimension hopping is significantly different then creating a singularity. Scientists in american and european labs have created extremely short lived singularities in Big Bang simulations. Secondly, the 'energy from other dimensions' is simply a consequence of the string theory. The black holes tie into all 11 dimensions because of there special properties.

We would be willing to donate $1bil yearly. We find this very interesting indeed.

Interesting system, although the inherent dangers of quantum singularities and gravitational flux conditions would produce catastrophic results if ever any single of those artificial singularities ever reached a self-sustainment mass. This is, of course, highly unlikely as the estimated mass of the entire NS Earth would be insufficient to reach critical mass.

The Confederacy of Frozenhells would be quite interested to collaborate, not financially but practically, in this research project. It is believed that our own research regarding the Casimir Effect and other exotic-energy sources could greatly beneficiate from the collaboration, eventually leading to reaching a Q>1 power ratio.

If the nation of Hamanas is interested, our prototype facilities have deemed acceptable to provide you with one of the still imperfect C0re scale models, adequately modified. Although it yet fails to provide a null power balance, it should be adequate to provide a stable near-self-powered confinement for one singularity. It is estimated that an added power input of a mere 3 or 4 kW (OOC: 3.5kW = 30 amps on a 120VAC line) should be sufficient to achieve long-term confinement, which is evidently quite useful for research and far less energy-consuming than regular magnetic-loop confinement technology.


Casimir III
Prime Directorate, Head of the Science Ministery
Confederacy of Frozenhells

Indeed, that technology sounds very interesting. Also, using calculations, we believe that self sustaining mass would be far greater than the entire solar system, including Sol itself could provide. Nonetheless, Hamanas is extremely interested in your technology. The current power consumption for the Magnetic Field Generator far exceeds any possible benefit. We would be appreciative of one of these C0re models. Our model requires roughly 800 KW to run adequatley. But, 3 or 4 kilowatts should be easy to make on the field using batteries.

Perhaps we could make it run itself with it's own generated electricity. Either way, your help is greatly appreciated. We are currently shipping you one of our experimental generators. Hooked up with a Fusion generator, you'll notice a slight, very slight peak in efficiency over 100%, although it only lasts for a few minutes. But, with your technology, we should be able to overcome that.

-Hamanas

Double post.

Hamanas, not only are you too young to be dealing with theoretical physics in a realistic sense, but controlling a singularity reaction is impossible. I've considered making a singularity weapon myself, but after putting more research into it and discussing it with other, more established members of the NS community, it was deemed physically impossible without wiping out a chunk of the solar system.

This isn't as advanced as you might think. If the United States had not put so much research into traditional weapons technology in the past, then this might not be all that unfeasible in today's world.

You couldn't be more wrong. First of all, this school of thought involving singularities didn't begin until a decade or so after Einstein's work. We couldn't/can't put research into a weapon like a singularity bomb simply because it's mostly theoretical science.

Also, many nations start researching Nuclear Weapons at around this size.

They're not supposed to. And if they do, they're ignored. The bottom line is that you're too young of a nation to be creating something like this, provided it was possible to begin with.

OOC: I'll agree with you, perhaps my nation is too young to deal with this, but I would like to disagree with you on the second point. It has been modelled in supercomputers that if a (black/white/worm)hole of minute size it torn open with a Magnet of great power, that blackhole/whitehole/wormhole could be held open for an indefinite amount of time.

I'll stop with the research. Sorry, I was just trying to get my feet wet in RP'ing.

OOC: I'll agree with you, perhaps my nation is too young to deal with this, but I would like to disagree with you on the second point. It has been modelled in supercomputers that if a (black/white/worm)hole of minute size it torn open with a Magnet of great power, that blackhole/whitehole/wormhole could be held open for an indefinite amount of time.

I'll stop with the research. Sorry, I was just trying to get my feet wet in RP'ing.

I don't blame you for wanting to get involved with some R&D rping, but try something a bit more simple. You can research nuclear power or supercolliders, or maybe string theories. Nanotech is always good, but you might want to wait on that.

Also, although singularities are modeled in supercomputers, that's still very distant from creating one in real life.

Aren't wormholes not allowed by Einstein's theories? I thought he said space could bend and stretch but not be torn or ripped, which is what a wormhole is.

Aren't wormholes not allowed by Einstein's theories? I thought he said space could bend and stretch but not be torn or ripped, which is what a wormhole is.

What happens when you divide any number by zero? A singularity. So mathematically, it's possible.

"What's this?" The Steward picked up a packet of papers just handed him by one of the nameless techs from Down Under.
"Some new nation researching artificial singularities, with apparently not so nice uses in mind as we have."
"I see. Well, from what you've got here, it doesn't look like they'll pose much of a threat, diddling around in the shallow end."
"Yes, but one can never be sure if what the public sees is the full extent of the truth."
"Quite so. Keep an eye on 'em."

OOC:
Aren't wormholes not allowed by Einstein's theories? I thought he said space could bend and stretch but not be torn or ripped, which is what a wormhole is.Nope. Wormholes are entirely consistent with general relativity. Space doesn't have to be torn, just stretched to extremes and overlapped.

OOC:
Aren't wormholes not allowed by Einstein's theories? I thought he said space could bend and stretch but not be torn or ripped, which is what a wormhole is.Nope. Wormholes are entirely consistent with general relativity. Space doesn't have to be torn, just stretched to extremes and overlapped.

O, i was trying to remember this special on TV about String Theory, I thought that's what they said.

Indeed. Space cannot be ripped, but it can be bent as the other nation has put forth. Imagine a universe made out of thick plastic. Not a flat universe, one which twists in mind-boggling non-euclidian fashions. Now, imagine you push on two sides of this universe. The rubber stretches, making the rubber thinner and thinner. Finally, when the two sides meet, the rubber is so thin there is virtually no resistance. Similar to blowing up a baloon, except infinitey(to the infinith power ;) more complex.