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Al Anbar attacked for no reason! Appeals for assistance!

28-03-2004, 05:40
Ministry of Foreign Affairs

The Arab Socialist Republic of Al Anbar has been attacked for no other reasons except for imperialistic reasons of certain nations! Al Anbar has been providing security and stability to the Middle East, but uniting the people under the secular rule of President Saddam Hussein. We have strived to arrest fundamentalists that only wish to harm the Arab people, instead of betterment.

We have recognized and allowed the state of Israel to exist and have diplomatical relations with that country. We have excellent womens rights, equalling that of most Western nations. We are not governed by Islamic law, but a law of the people.

We request assistance in defeating these warmongering imperialistic nations who wish to steal the oil of the Arabs and allow the region to fall into disrepair and allow terrorists to once again reign in the Middle East. Oppose them and stand with us in defending our freedom, culture, and resources from these warmongers!
LeberMac
28-03-2004, 05:44
You'll get no help from us, Al Anbar.

The Dominion of LeberMac is content to sit idly by and watch your nation be rightfully destroyed. Enjoy your cell. Or your coffin.
Eredron
28-03-2004, 05:45
OOC: Assuming this was a general, international broadcast and thus open for all nations to receive.

The dictatorial regime of Al Anbar is seeking to conquer and dominate the entire region of the Middle East. Under the guise of "providing security", Saddam Hussein has waged open war on his neighbors. Under the auspices of providing stability, he has overthrown governments. He seeks to improve the lives of the Arab people by sending tanks into their cities, and by refusing all offers of peaceful negotiations.

Eredron urges all nations to deny assistance to a nation that seeks to establish itself as the sole power in the Middle East.
Muktar
28-03-2004, 05:45
Mercenaries are available to both sides, but they will not fight each other, so it's basically whichever side tries to buy the most expensive ammount of mercenaries.
28-03-2004, 05:47
Mercenaries are available to both sides, but they will not fight each other, so it's basically whichever side tries to buy the most expensive ammount of mercenaries.

How much, how many?
Whittier
28-03-2004, 05:48
We have no intent regards arabian oil. The oil in the middleeast belongs to the people of the middleeast.
Saddam brought this on himself by repeatedly torturing his own people, and attacking and bullying his neighbors.
Haiti
28-03-2004, 05:49
Haiti shall send suicide bombers to attack important buildings and population centers on both sides of the conflict! Allah be praised, we shall bring about a new order!
Hallad
28-03-2004, 05:49
Although the True Directorate wishes to remain nuetral we would like to send 2000 men and women from the Commissariate of Humanitarian Aid. They will provide and civilians with humanitarian relief. Will Al Anbar allow us to send these people?
28-03-2004, 05:50
Al Anbar... The Collonisian government has met to discuss your request for aid. as we are a relatively new nation, we can not assist you militarily, but will aid you monetarily, with an amount equal to 3 billion USD. Please, accept this gift as a token of the goodwill that exists between the collonisian and Al Anbarian peoples.

~ Diplomat from Collonisia
Vernii
28-03-2004, 05:50
Vernii will donate 250 million to the military of Al Anbar. We do this not because of approval of your government, but because we hate theocratic governments,
28-03-2004, 05:52
check your Tgs, al anbar.
Muktar
28-03-2004, 05:54
If you can't pay up front, interest is 3% weekly. They all do very good at obeying orders, except the Dauthi have trouble with stand down, and the Zhalfirin seldom retreat.

Askari Guerillas
Weapon(s): AK-47, MRLs optional, Smoke Grenades optional
Armor: Light Torso Armor
Special Equipment: Enviroment-appropriate Camoflauge
Vehicle/Crew: None/None
Cost: 175 USD/month, +5 USD monthly per option

Zhalfirin Infantry
Weapon(s): UGW w/ Bayonet, Rifle Grenades optional, Frag Grenades optional
Armor: Torso Armor, Helmet
Special Equipment: Medikit optional
Vehicle/Crew: None/None
Cost: 150 USD/month, +10 USD monthly per option

Dauthi Shock Troops
Weapon(s): Frenisi, Machete, Frag Grenades optional
Armor: Full Body Armor
Special Equipment: Anti-CBR attachments
Vehicle/Crew: None/None
Cost: 220 USD/month, +5 USD monthly per option

Dauthi Cavalry
Weapon(s): AK-47, Machete, MRL optional
Armor: Full Body Armor
Special Equipment: None
Vehicle/Crew: Armored Motorcycle/2 Driver unarmed, Side Blades optional
Cost: 425 USD/month, +25 USD monthly per option

Soldevi Infiltrators
Weapon(s): SR4000, P2K, Smoke Grenades optional
Armor: Light Body Armor optional
Special Equipment: Adaptive Camoflauge
Vehicle/Crew: None/None
Cost: 250 USD/month, +10 USD per option

Krosan Attack Fighters
Weapon(s): 4 Homing Missiles, 22mm Autocannon
Armor: Medium Armor Plating
Special Equipment: ECM optional
Crew: 1, armed with P2K
Cost: 3mil USD/mission, +200,000 USD per option

Visiran Tanks
Weapon(s): 30mm Silenced Cannon, Silenced Machine Gun, Mini Rocket Launcher
Armor: Plating
Special Equipment: Jammer
Vehicle/Crew: KOV-47 Stalker/3, armed with P2Ks
Cost: 700,000 USD/mission

Visiran Corsairs
Weapon(s): MRL, AK-47
Armor: Light Torso Armor
Special Equipment: Grappling Hooks
Vehicle/Crew: Speederboat/7 Driver Unarmed
Cost: 600 USD/month

Cateran Assassins
Weapon(s): P2K w/ Silencer, Dagger
Armor: None
Special Equipment: Nightsuit, Cooling Pads optional, Electronics Disabler optional
Vehicle/Crew: None/None
Cost: 2,000 USD/mission, +500 USD missionly per option

Cateran Artillary Teams
Weapon(s): P2K, AK-47 optional
Armor: Light Torso Armor optional
Special Equipment: None
Vehicle/Crew: Muktari Mortar/2
Cost: 1,000 USD/month, +100 USD monthly per option

See anything you like?
28-03-2004, 05:56
Al Anbar... The Collonisian government has met to discuss your request for aid. as we are a relatively new nation, we can not assist you militarily, but will aid you monetarily, with an amount equal to 3 billion USD. Please, accept this gift as a token of the goodwill that exists between the collonisian and Al Anbarian peoples.

~ Diplomat from Collonisia

The Arab Socialist Republic of Al Anbar would like to thank you for your donation to the government and people of Al Anbar. It will be put to good use. Thank you.
28-03-2004, 05:56
Vernii will donate 250 million to the military of Al Anbar. We do this not because of approval of your government, but because we hate theocratic governments,

The people of Al Anbar thank you for this generous donation to Al Anbar. It will be put to good use. Thank you.
The Freethinkers
28-03-2004, 05:59
We will provide 1 24-man exfiltration team from our Special Operations Regiment. They are there, basically, should you need them, to help extract top government officials and the leader's family if this unfortunately becomes necessary.

We will also provide $5 billion USD in aid, and all the luck we can promise you. Unfortunately we can only commit this amount of involvement before becoming a fully-fledged combatant, and we simply cant afford to do that.

Drive them into the sea!
Iuthia
28-03-2004, 06:02
We have no intent regards arabian oil. The oil in the middleeast belongs to the people of the middleeast.
Saddam brought this on himself by repeatedly torturing his own people, and attacking and bullying his neighbors.

Would it be so much to ask your nation to prove this is the case? We would hate to think that you are in fact declaring war on Al Anbar for little reason and we feel that something so violent and damaging as war must be scrutinised to the fullest.

We do not intend to get involved eitherway but we do feel it is important to understand why things happen and if they are fully justified, ulimately we feel that if you cannot prove there is good reason for war we will not be able respect nor trust you.

Sorry for any complications, but being the apparent aggressor here we feel that calls for justification are due.

Thanks,

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28-03-2004, 06:03
the money will be hand delivered by our most esteemed Diplomatic advisor, Joseph Wojtowicz. his route will not be revealed, but his transport will be sure to bear the Collonisian as to not be confused with enemy forces. Please allert your forces to his arrival... ETA around 1300 hours sunday
Haiti
28-03-2004, 06:04
After extensive deliberation with the ruling Council for Islamo-Communist Revolution, Haiti has backpedalled its earlier decision and decided to provide financial aid in the amount of 3 billion US dollars and an army of 400 child soldiers, 400 suicide bombers and several biological weapons. Whether the aid is accepted or not is as of yet unknown.
28-03-2004, 06:04
We will provide 1 24-man exfiltration team from our Special Operations Regiment. They are there, basically, should you need them, to help extract top government officials and the leader's family if this unfortunately becomes necessary.

We will also provide $5 billion USD in aid, and all the luck we can promise you. Unfortunately we can only commit this amount of involvement before becoming a fully-fledged combatant, and we simply cant afford to do that.

Drive them into the sea!

We thank you for your assistance. We will not be able to take your first offer, however, as the government would rather die than fleeing. We will stand to the end.

We thank you for your monetary aid.
Dr_Twist
28-03-2004, 06:05
The Dr_Twist Governments reasons for invading Al Anbar. http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=134882
Rotovia
28-03-2004, 06:05
"The Government of Rotovia regrets it is otherwise deatined and cannot lend it's own miltary support, however we will provide whatever funds that are nessacary to ensure Al Anbar remains a sovereign state"

Minstry of Foreign Affairs
Dr_Twist
28-03-2004, 06:06
The Dr_Twist Governments reasons for invading Al Anbar. http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=134882
28-03-2004, 06:06
OOC: Yes, while money is all good and that, it's not going to stop the invading hordes of uncivilized people. :P
IDF
28-03-2004, 06:06
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=134882

OCC: This is not no reason. This is a violation of international law commited by AA.
The Freethinkers
28-03-2004, 06:07
VEry well. However, if it is at all possible, we would like the team to stay in Iraq to provide ourselves with a recconaisance capability. Them team will also be able to guard the delivery of our aid.
Dr_Twist
28-03-2004, 06:07
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=134882

OCC: This is not no reason. This is a violation of international law commited by AA.

This is me reason he violated International Law and the Dr_twist Government acted on it.
Tappee
28-03-2004, 06:08
Official Press release of Tappee Foreign Affairs

Due to the current situation that Tappee faces we are unable to provide any kind of assistance. A situation that we find most regrettable, and wish that there was more that we could do. However, should the situation change we will look in to providing help, but due not see this occurring any time in the near future.

Tappee Foreign Affairs Minister
Harold Armstrong
Dr_Twist
28-03-2004, 06:13
I would like to state that the Dr_Twist Government has not fired a single Bullet at this time, all we have done is attempt to apply Pressure to Al Anbar by putting troops on its Boarders.
Dr_Twist
28-03-2004, 06:16
I would like to state that the Dr_Twist Government has not fired a single Bullet at this time, all we have done is attempt to apply Pressure to Al Anbar by putting troops on its Boarders.
28-03-2004, 06:16
al anbar... the information that Dr. Twist has provided has caused much debate and speculation among the Collonisian people. As this is the case, i regret to inform you that we are forced to withdraw our offer of support. Please note that this is not an act of war, and our Nation would still like to have a diplomatic standing with your people (if you survive the invasions) But sadly, our nation can not hold back the Rioters that have issued as a result of our declaration of aid to your cause. The Transport is hereby turning back from Its route to Al Anbar, and will hopefull arrive back in Collonisian territory at around 200 hours sunday
Brandoniats
28-03-2004, 06:25
Presidents statement to the coalition and Hussein
Right now, I would prefer to stay neutral in this, but if you (Al Abnar) decide to use biological weapons in this conflict, I shall be forced to enter. My 6 Iowa battleships are sailing for the Persian gulf as we speak, and my Skybases are taking up launching positions. And, being that I have not entered the conflict as of yet, I do not wish to be fired upon, succh action will also result in my immediate initiation of hostilities. I suggest you restrain your conflict to non-WMD only, Saddam. Failure to do so could land you in a heap of trouble.

Federation Battlegroup Commander to Coalition Commander
(whoever that may be)
"Good day, admiral (I'm assuming here, as I do not know what rank the guy in charge is), how goes the liberation effort? I feel it is my duty to remind you that the Federation battlegroup has yet to enter into this war. However, we shall provide non-tactical assistance to you as needed."
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At this time, the Federation Arleigh Burke class destroyers are moving into defensive positions around key coalition ships, and the Iowa's are assigning possible targets.

OOC: I suppose this is my entry into the conflict. But I am serious about the non-aggression, unless he does use a WMD. Then, my fleet shall open up on him. And a question: Would you consider the F-302's future tech??
Rotovia
28-03-2004, 06:29
OOC: Yes, while money is all good and that, it's not going to stop the invading hordes of uncivilized people. :POOC: Check your TGs for my proposal.
28-03-2004, 06:51
What can WE do to help you.....hmmm.....well, I believe we might be able to throw some rocks at the enemies. I mean, modified existing platforms of fighters just ain't modern, is it?
Xhadam
28-03-2004, 07:16
Upon hearing the news of Al Anbar being invaded, Dominion of Xha'dam Minister of Foreign Affairs Shiv'kala issued the following statement:

Good.

-- Minister of Foreign Affairs Shiv'kala, Dominion of Xha'dam
Jeruselem
28-03-2004, 07:25
In no circumstance may forces from the alliance against Al Anbar use the lands and sea territories of Jeruselem (aka Israel) for an attack against Al Anbar. We feel this war will destabilise the Middle East region and bring more problems than it will fix as the region was stable enough with Jeruselem and Al Anbar keeping the forces of fundermentalism at bay.

Queen of Jeruselem
Keeper of the Holy Lands
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Whittier
28-03-2004, 07:26
any nation that provides aid to Al Anbar will be attacked by the coalition.
The Atheists Reality
28-03-2004, 07:39
i say we just stick with attacking AlAnbar, it really would destabilize the region if we attacked every nation that offered support to AlAnbar
Iuthia
28-03-2004, 07:45
any nation that provides aid to Al Anbar will be attacked by the coalition.

We think we can understand your reasons for declaring war on Al Anbar but to threaten the nations assisting him only shows your nation to be a bully as well as a poor diplomat... truely, we are shocked to think that a nation that came up with a convention such as the Whittier Convention is so willing to commit themselves to war over money handed to Al Anbar.

Surely you should reconcider or lose much respect for your waging war on such little diplomacy...

Lord General deGritz, leader of the Iuthian people.
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Vernii
28-03-2004, 07:53
any nation that provides aid to Al Anbar will be attacked by the coalition.

And do you happen to be a space nation?
Jeruselem
28-03-2004, 07:54
any nation that provides aid to Al Anbar will be attacked by the coalition.

OOC - Not unlike Bush's "You're with or against us" type statement. 8)
28-03-2004, 07:57
i say we just stick with attacking AlAnbar, it really would destabilize the region if we attacked every nation that offered support to AlAnbar

Attacking Al Anbar will result in destablization of the region. Al Anbar has never supported terrorism, has arrested terrorists, and is very secular in nature, striving away from religion in government and instead braced a Western-style government. By removing Al Anbar, you do the terrorists a favour. They will have a base from which to operate (as in RL, with all the fundamentalists now gathering in Iraq to kill Americans, before which there was no such things in Iraq)
Rotovia
28-03-2004, 07:57
any nation that provides aid to Al Anbar will be attacked by the coalition.

OOC - Not unlike Bush's "You're with or against us" type statement. 8)OOC: Touche, this is becoming rather like Gulf War Two: A son's revenge.
Muordoa
28-03-2004, 07:59
Although the Muordenori are a small, new nation, and we don't have much of an army, surprisingly, we do have quite a frmidable air force. If anyone would like to quicken this conflict (for a price) let us know, and we will be glad to help. Ror more information on our air force, just ask. Also, funding or donations would be great to help our army grow would be great. If you contribute to our army, it would be obligated to help you in a time of war (now0, so..... think it over!




also, for those interested:






The Commonwealth of Muordoa would like to build a list of military allies that will be able to provide us funding to develop a new top-secret prototype weapon (and help us in a time of war). Plans for this weapon are already in the works, but information cannot freely be given out at this time and in public (top secret!), but you have the backing of the Muordenori militaryat a time of crises if you so choose to ally yourself with the muordenori. We realize that we are a new nation, and cannot compare militarily to the strength of the larger countries, but our assistance in wartime could still prove the difference between victory and defeat in a time of desparation. We ask for your military and monetary help in return for information on this weapon and military backing. Please, think it over, and make your offer.



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Muordoa
28-03-2004, 08:03
And if there are no replies, my air force's assistance lies with Al Anbar. After I declare my allegianc with Al Anbar, any attacking threat will be looking at pre-emptive strike of several hundred krosan attack fighters immediately. (and don't think that is all that the muordenori air force is capable of)
Austar Union
28-03-2004, 08:07
As far i'm concerned, Al Anbar has not been invaded without reason. In fact, we think its hypocritical for him to make such a claim, after invading many of his neighbours.

Plus, some of the invading nations we consider to be allies, so...
Iuthia
28-03-2004, 08:12
As far i'm concerned, Al Anbar has not been invaded without reason. In fact, we think its hypocritical for him to make such a claim, after invading many of his neighbours.

Plus, some of the invading nations we consider to be allies, so...

We too can see why Al Anbar is in this mess, but I do not condone the blatant threats being made against any nation that would assist Al Anbar. It's not like diplomacy has even been exchanged, just a simple threat "Those aiding Al Anbar will be attacked."

As such I have my doubts...

Lord General deGritz, leader of the Iuthian people.
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Dr_Twist
28-03-2004, 08:16
At a statement a short while ago, the Nation of Dr_Twist doesn't not agree with Whitters stance on the if

"any nation that provides aid to Al Anbar will be attacked by the coalition".

We think this policy is completely out of line, We will not back it in any sense at all.
Jeruselem
28-03-2004, 08:23
Jeruselem Government News

Al Anbar officials in Jeruselem placed under protection

Queen Mariah I has ordered protection for all Al Anbar officials working in Jeruselem due to the war across the border. A 24x7 force will be assigned to protect the officials should they wish to not return home and stay in Jeruselem for time being. Any officials wishing to go home will be allowed to.

Foreign minister Count Richard and Regent of Jeruselem spoke to the press on the issue "I don't see any reason Jeruselem should attack Al Anbar. We've being neighbours peacefully and we have no compliants about their conduct. Our fear is the rise of Islamic fundermentalism due to fall of the secular government and the funding of Palestian extremists in Jeruselem from new terrorist groups. We fell this coalition is fanning the flames of extremist by it's actions."

Palestians were out the streets shouting "Whittier go to hell" and "Save Al Bar, stop the war" as police watched on in case things got out of hand.

OOC

Correction - That word Iraq keeps on popping up ...
Euroslavia
28-03-2004, 08:29
Euroslavia, as a nation, has sympathy for the people of Al Anbar. We do not wish to get involved, as we have allies on both sides...but we may aid Al Anbar, non-militarily, if needed.
Fareshan
28-03-2004, 08:32
The Nation of Fareshan wishes to know the reasons for the conflict between the warring nations.
_Taiwan
28-03-2004, 09:02
Although Al Anbar's actions have clearly violated the Taipei accord signed by Al Anbari Prime Minister Tariq Aziz, the Taiwanese government believes that diplomatic action has not run it's course, and thus offers to meditate the current situation.

Chen Shui Bian
President of the Republic of China on _Taiwan
28-03-2004, 10:49
Taiwanese government believes that diplomatic action has not run it's course, and thus offers to meditate the current situation.

Chen Shui Bian
President of the Republic of China on _Taiwan

The Arab Socialist Republic of Al Anbar would be more than willing to follow a diplomatical channel to end this conflict. However, the only way that this will take place is if Whittier and their allies call an immediate cease fire.
Eredron
28-03-2004, 16:04
The Socialist Republic of Al Anbar has been offered a chance for diplomacy. Saddam Hussein chose not to accept it, and continue with his acts of aggression.
Hallad
28-03-2004, 16:14
Although the True Directorate wishes to remain nuetral we would like to send 2000 men and women from the Commissariate of Humanitarian Aid. They will provide and civilians with humanitarian relief. Will Al Anbar allow us to send these people?

Well?
Eredron
28-03-2004, 17:02
At a statement a short while ago, the Nation of Dr_Twist doesn't not agree with Whitters stance on the if

"any nation that provides aid to Al Anbar will be attacked by the coalition".

We think this policy is completely out of line, We will not back it in any sense at all.

Ditto. Providing aid will not necessarily result in a military response.
Taka
28-03-2004, 18:17
A 300 million dollar voucher has been issued to Al Anbar for purchases made in the Paladin Armor Company, or the Takian Arms Manufacuring company (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1840121#1840121), along with 100 million dollars worth of food and medical suplies to be delivered via dropships to your civilian refugees. If the nation of Whitters would like to take exemption to this donation, please send a target reference card to our orbital ground deployment center, so we may commence with your subjugation personaly.
Andrehervia
28-03-2004, 18:34
Andrehervian Government Statement

Following long deliberations by the Andrehervian government, we have decided to supply military equipment and troop training for the Al Anbari military, along with economic aid and large discounts from the AndreArms storefront (OOC: If you want the link to that, Al Anbar, please telegram me). Details of the military equipment to be donated will follow soon.

The reason we have decided to defend Al Anbar is because of Whittier's many false accusations about his human rights records of which he has no evidence and his statement that the stabilisation of the Middle East is a violation of international law, yet there is no existence of such a law in the NationStates world.
Whittier
28-03-2004, 18:57
any nation that provides aid to Al Anbar will be attacked by the coalition.

We think we can understand your reasons for declaring war on Al Anbar but to threaten the nations assisting him only shows your nation to be a bully as well as a poor diplomat... truely, we are shocked to think that a nation that came up with a convention such as the Whittier Convention is so willing to commit themselves to war over money handed to Al Anbar.

Surely you should reconcider or lose much respect for your waging war on such little diplomacy...

Lord General deGritz, leader of the Iuthian people.
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We will allow nations to send humanitarian aid. But any shipment of arms will result in a military attack on the nation sending the arms.
Whittier
28-03-2004, 18:58
any nation that provides aid to Al Anbar will be attacked by the coalition.

And do you happen to be a space nation?
We have several sats in space. And one space city (which is not capable of defending itself).
Whittier
28-03-2004, 19:00
any nation that provides aid to Al Anbar will be attacked by the coalition.

OOC - Not unlike Bush's "You're with or against us" type statement. 8)
OOC: That's right :lol:
Whittier
28-03-2004, 19:00
any nation that provides aid to Al Anbar will be attacked by the coalition.

OOC - Not unlike Bush's "You're with or against us" type statement. 8)
OOC: That's right :lol:
Whittier
28-03-2004, 19:02
any nation that provides aid to Al Anbar will be attacked by the coalition.

OOC - Not unlike Bush's "You're with or against us" type statement. 8)
OOC: That's right :lol:
Whittier
28-03-2004, 19:02
any nation that provides aid to Al Anbar will be attacked by the coalition.

OOC - Not unlike Bush's "You're with or against us" type statement. 8)
OOC: That's right :lol:
Vernii
28-03-2004, 19:06
any nation that provides aid to Al Anbar will be attacked by the coalition.

And do you happen to be a space nation?
We have several sats in space. And one space city (which is not capable of defending itself).

Well then theres no way you could even touch my nation.
Whittier
28-03-2004, 19:08
i say we just stick with attacking AlAnbar, it really would destabilize the region if we attacked every nation that offered support to AlAnbar

Attacking Al Anbar will result in destablization of the region. Al Anbar has never supported terrorism, has arrested terrorists, and is very secular in nature, striving away from religion in government and instead braced a Western-style government. By removing Al Anbar, you do the terrorists a favour. They will have a base from which to operate (as in RL, with all the fundamentalists now gathering in Iraq to kill Americans, before which there was no such things in Iraq)
This ain't about the secularity of Saddam's govt. This ain't about terrorism.
This isn't about oil. This is about Saddam Hussein bullying his neighbors, invading, and violating their national soverignty. Saddam's has a long history of attacking his neighbors. Including threats to attack Israel. Which was prevented only with whittier intervention.
Haiti
28-03-2004, 19:09
Haiti stands ready to assist our Islamic brothers in Al Anbar in their jihad against the imperialist infidels in Whittier. Our vast armies of child suicide bombers, child karate assassins and biological weapons are at your beck and call should you need them.
Iuthia
28-03-2004, 19:10
So we take it you are still unwilling to talk diplomacy with them?


Sigh... we had such high hopes for Whittier...
Eredron
28-03-2004, 19:13
Iutha: Al Anbar was given a chance to cease hostilities and negotiate. He continued his invasion, refusing our offer of mediation.
Whittier
28-03-2004, 19:14
A 300 million dollar voucher has been issued to Al Anbar for purchases made in the Paladin Armor Company, or the Takian Arms Manufacuring company (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1840121#1840121), along with 100 million dollars worth of food and medical suplies to be delivered via dropships to your civilian refugees. If the nation of Whitters would like to take exemption to this donation, please send a target reference card to our orbital ground deployment center, so we may commence with your subjugation personaly.
We will allow you to send humanitarian aid. But all weapons will either be destroyed or confiscated.
Whittier
28-03-2004, 19:16
Andrehervian Government Statement

Following long deliberations by the Andrehervian government, we have decided to supply military equipment and troop training for the Al Anbari military, along with economic aid and large discounts from the AndreArms storefront (OOC: If you want the link to that, Al Anbar, please telegram me). Details of the military equipment to be donated will follow soon.

The reason we have decided to defend Al Anbar is because of Whittier's many false accusations about his human rights records of which he has no evidence and his statement that the stabilisation of the Middle East is a violation of international law, yet there is no existence of such a law in the NationStates world.
You are strongly advised not to send in weapons.
This is not about how Saddam governs at home. This is about Saddam's high number of unjustified attacks on his neighbors.
Whittier
28-03-2004, 19:17
any nation that provides aid to Al Anbar will be attacked by the coalition.

And do you happen to be a space nation?
We have several sats in space. And one space city (which is not capable of defending itself).

Well then theres no way you could even touch my nation.
If you are a future tech nation or a space nation, you are ignored.
Artitsa
28-03-2004, 19:20
After weighing the options heavily, Artitsa has decieded to assist Whittier and this coalition. We have been clearly shown that diplomacy was thrown out the window, as Al Anbar simply refused.

Invading your neighbors is unacceptable, especially when Artitsa gets its oil from them. We can't have that, now can we?

So now, Artitsa will send its 1st Airborne Division (25,000 plus armour), 12th Black Rifles division (40,000 plus supporting armour), and the 42nd Armour Division. (If you want exact numbers to these, just ask.)

There are 4 other Divisions activated, but currently remaining in Artitsa for the time being. We will send one fleet of 3 Super Medjved Battleships, 8 TAMD Mk II's and 6 TAMD Mk I's. Plus 3 Yakinterinburg Carriers and Ivan Roganov landing ships.
Taka
28-03-2004, 19:23
I belive the reason he says this is because he is a space nation, and as a modern tech nation threatening a future tech nation with invasion, bad things will befall you.
Artitsa
28-03-2004, 19:23
After weighing the options heavily, Artitsa has decieded to assist Whittier and this coalition. We have been clearly shown that diplomacy was thrown out the window, as Al Anbar simply refused.

Invading your neighbors is unacceptable, especially when Artitsa gets its oil from them. We can't have that, now can we?

So now, Artitsa will send its 1st Airborne Division (25,000 plus armour), 12th Black Rifles division (40,000 plus supporting armour), and the 42nd Armour Division. (If you want exact numbers to these, just ask.)

There are 4 other Divisions activated, but currently remaining in Artitsa for the time being. We will send one fleet of 3 Super Medjved Battleships, 8 TAMD Mk II's and 6 TAMD Mk I's. Plus 3 Yakinterinburg Carriers and Ivan Roganov landing ships.
Vernii
28-03-2004, 19:39
If you are a future tech nation or a space nation, you are ignored.

I'm only providing financial assistance. You can't ignore money.
Taka
28-03-2004, 19:52
The grant has been issued, and once the Takian shuttles touch down then the weapons become property of your enemy. What you do with them at that point is strictly your buisness, but what you do to Takian personel and vehicles transporting said weapons is our buisness.

((OOC: while I may be a space nation, I'm not going to be utilizing orbital bombardment, or similar high tech means of death dealing against you. I'm more than willing to concede a balancing of technological forces dollar for dollar if you wish.))
Brandoniats
29-03-2004, 00:39
I am interested in a peaceful solution to this war, but we've got to get Saddam to the table before that can happen.
IDF
29-03-2004, 00:40
I am willing for a ceasefire.
New Kingman
29-03-2004, 00:44
Al Anbar, please consider a ceasefire agreement.
Muordoa
03-08-2004, 01:37
Waiting...
IDF
03-08-2004, 01:57
Waiting...
Who dug this up? That war with Al Anbar was my 1st RP and where I joined the Whittier Pact.
Whittier-
03-08-2004, 01:58
OOC: The reason you ressurected this thread from war that has long been over is...? What?
Whittier-
03-08-2004, 01:59
Who dug this up? That war with Al Anbar was my 1st RP and where I joined the Whittier Pact.
And the Whittier Pact kicked Al Anbar's ass out of kuwait and Saudi Arabia.
IDF
03-08-2004, 02:02
And the Whittier Pact kicked Al Anbar's ass out of kuwait and Saudi Arabia.
yeah, real good memories, this is pointless to bumb, AA doesn't exist since he hasn't logged on in 3 months, if he ever comes back he will reserect this nation
Whittier-
03-08-2004, 02:05
yeah, real good memories, this is pointless to bumb, AA doesn't exist since he hasn't logged on in 3 months, if he ever comes back he will reserect this nation
Which brings back my original question. Why was this dug up?
IDF
03-08-2004, 02:06
Which brings back my original question. Why was this dug up?
you know as much as I do.
Industrial Experiment
03-08-2004, 02:09
Damn, this is old? I should have looked at the dates. Damn damn damn.

I was reading with very large amounts of interest, too :(

Sorry to say, though, I was considering entering on the side of Al Anbar. The situation seems to have been one where the ends actually justified the means. What I'm trying to say is that, as long as he treated the citizens in the surrounding nations well, and actually did establish the ME as a secular, Westernized state, I would back him.

Oh well.