NationStates Jolt Archive

With the coalition seemingly gaining more and more support.
The time has come to support freedom for the people of Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, and Lebanon.
We are giving Saddam Hussein 3 days to leave these nations or we will make him leave.
Let it be clear that neither Whittier nor any other coalition member has any territorial ambitions in this dispute. Our only goal is the restoration of Saudi, Kuwaiti, and Lebanese soverignty.
We call on Al Anbar to back down. It would be unfortunate if we had settle this by going to war with a tinpot thirdworld dictator.
We also demand that Al Anbar hand over the russian pilot. If he is abused, Al Anbar will be held to account.

With the coalition seemingly gaining more and more support.
The time has come to support freedom for the people of Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, and Lebanon.
We are giving Saddam Hussein 3 days to leave these nations or we will make him leave.
Let it be clear that neither Whittier nor any other coalition member has any territorial ambitions in this dispute. Our only goal is the restoration of Saudi, Kuwaiti, and Lebanese soverignty.
We call on Al Anbar to back down. It would be unfortunate if we had settle this by going to war with a tinpot thirdworld dictator.
We also demand that Al Anbar hand over the russian pilot. If he is abused, Al Anbar will be held to account. If I was Al Anbar I would have shit my pants and ran....

With the coalition seemingly gaining more and more support.
The time has come to support freedom for the people of Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, and Lebanon.
We are giving Saddam Hussein 3 days to leave these nations or we will make him leave.
Let it be clear that neither Whittier nor any other coalition member has any territorial ambitions in this dispute. Our only goal is the restoration of Saudi, Kuwaiti, and Lebanese soverignty.
We call on Al Anbar to back down. It would be unfortunate if we had settle this by going to war with a tinpot thirdworld dictator.
We also demand that Al Anbar hand over the russian pilot. If he is abused, Al Anbar will be held to account.

IC: If the battlelines are drawn, then so be it, but we will now actively support Al-Anbars regime. If this means that we may have to go to war, then so be it.

OOC: Should be interesting.

The Confederated Republic of Eredron formally supports this ultimatum, and has committed itself to liberating all territories conquered by Al Anbar.

this post contains just some of the forces arrayed thus far against Al Anbar:
www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=134792

With the coalition seemingly gaining more and more support.
The time has come to support freedom for the people of Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, and Lebanon.
We are giving Saddam Hussein 3 days to leave these nations or we will make him leave.
Let it be clear that neither Whittier nor any other coalition member has any territorial ambitions in this dispute. Our only goal is the restoration of Saudi, Kuwaiti, and Lebanese soverignty.
We call on Al Anbar to back down. It would be unfortunate if we had settle this by going to war with a tinpot thirdworld dictator.
We also demand that Al Anbar hand over the russian pilot. If he is abused, Al Anbar will be held to account.

IC: If the battlelines are drawn, then so be it, but we will now actively support Al-Anbars regime. If this means that we may have to go to war, then so be it.

OOC: Should be interesting.
Do you realize that Whittier was made in 2002?

i support Whittier on this one and shall deploy several carriers,battleships and transports

Given recent events, the Mestionian Government has recalled all ships of war from the region and has lifted her economic embargo on Al Anbar.

In keeping with RP etiquette, no attack will commence until Al Anbar has responded. We will give him up to one rl day.

I believe in principles, and the supremacy of negiotiation above warfare.

I dont expect to win a military conflict, if it comes to that. We have chosen our stance, and we will deal with the consequences as the future unfolds.

With the coalition seemingly gaining more and more support.
The time has come to support freedom for the people of Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, and Lebanon.
We are giving Saddam Hussein 3 days to leave these nations or we will make him leave.
Let it be clear that neither Whittier nor any other coalition member has any territorial ambitions in this dispute. Our only goal is the restoration of Saudi, Kuwaiti, and Lebanese soverignty.
We call on Al Anbar to back down. It would be unfortunate if we had settle this by going to war with a tinpot thirdworld dictator.
We also demand that Al Anbar hand over the russian pilot. If he is abused, Al Anbar will be held to account. If I was Al Anbar I would have shit my pants and ran....
I think he did.

Im technically neutral but I would just plane run.

Sheba: lol

I believe in principles, and the supremacy of negiotiation above warfare.

I dont expect to win a military conflict, if it comes to that. We have chosen our stance, and we will deal with the consequences as the future unfolds.
Saddam Hussein is a man who does not believe in negotiations. while the world sought a peaceful solution. Saddam Hussein continued his ruthless aggression against the people of Kuwait, and Saudi Arabia.

I demand that pilot is returned or i'll extremely get involved.

You bombed his units, one of your men was dumb enough to get shot down, and now you're pissed? Interesting.......

OOC: I have heard from various nations that you are a chronic puppet nation user, Whittier. The puppets I know of: The southpacific and West Moon. Please dont use these in a war as it is considered god-modding, and is quite unfair.

OOC: What started all this again?

The clock is ticking clower to the liberation of Saudi, Kuwait, and Lebanon.

All nations contributing troops to the liberation of these nations please post your deployment stats here or on the above thread link.

Al Anbar's most recent action has been to invade Saudi Arabia and Kuwait. He intends to dominate all of the Middle East through whatever means necessary.

OOC: I have heard from various nations that you are a chronic puppet nation user, Whittier. The puppets I know of: The southpacific and West Moon. Please dont use these in a war as it is considered god-modding, and is quite unfair.
When I did use westmoon?
Southpacific?

Line in the sand thread, last post in it

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2956642#2956642

Al Anbar's most recent action has been to invade Saudi Arabia and Kuwait. He intends to dominate all of the Middle East through whatever means necessary.
If he uses WMD's we will counter with a massive thermonuclear attack.

Line in the sand thread, last post in it

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2956642#2956642
That's southpacific not westmoon.
Westmoon is my puppet but I have not used it here.

It is still your puppet.

It is still your puppet.
OOC: If that is so, how was it that I have seen him logged on at the same time as me? Is that possible?

When I did use westmoon?
Southpacific?

OOC: I have heard from various nations that you are a chronic puppet nation user, Whittier. The puppets I know of: The southpacific and West Moon. Please dont use these in a war as it is considered god-modding, and is quite unfair.
OOC: I am a puppet? LMAO.

I believe in principles, and the supremacy of negiotiation above warfare.

I dont expect to win a military conflict, if it comes to that. We have chosen our stance, and we will deal with the consequences as the future unfolds.
Saddam Hussein is a man who does not believe in negotiations. while the world sought a peaceful solution. Saddam Hussein continued his ruthless aggression against the people of Kuwait, and Saudi Arabia.

Right, and when have you seeken negiotiations? And may I remind you that ultimatums do not count as negiotiating advances.

As far as I can tell, noone here has claimed the Saudi Arabia or Lebenon or Kuwaiti territory as their own. I may be wrong, and please correct me if I am. These means that when Al-Anbar invaded what are basically islamic clerical dictartorships and replaced them with secular ones. Now, to me, this is likely only to increase regional stability and prevent the lands use for terrorist activities.

We view this as a good thing, believe it or not, and we will support them. We will encourage them to adopt more democratic measures and perhaps automany or independence once this becomes suitable, however.

You're course action has little grounding in any reality. You're plan of action will only see the deaths of more people. We cannot stand idly by and let this happen without at least some call to reason, even if we do suffer for it.

Carrier Group Bastion
CVN-77 Aircraft Carrier Bastion
6 DD-21 Zumwalt-class Land Attack Destroyers
10 Virginia class Attack Submarines
5 Ohio class Ballistic Submarines
11 Oliver Hazard Perry class Frigates
1 Hospital Ship
10 Sacramento class Fast Combat Support Ships
5 Logistic and Support Ships
5 Wasp class Amphibious Assault Ships

Carrier Group Intrepid
(See above for stats)

Carrier Group Stalwart
See Above

Carrier Group Morning Glory
See Above

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Ground Forces [tentatively planned]:

450,000 Infantry
200,000 Marines

500 M-1A2E Abrams Battle Tanks
250 M-11A3 APCs
200 MLRS Rocket Artillery Systems
150 Paladin Howitzers
900 M-3 Bradleys
500 Various SAMs/Anti-Air
Assorted supply/cargo vehicles

In addition, my Strategic Bomber Force will most likely become involved; it consists of 35 Tu-170E Implacable Strategic Bombers.

Transport of troops, equipment, etc will be provided via C-5 Galaxies, EA-80 Transports, and G-12 STDS/CV Troop Transport Vehicles.

OOC: You yourself admitted you are a puppet. Check your own post.


When did I use West Moon?
The southpacific?

OOC: I have heard from various nations that you are a chronic puppet nation user, Whittier. The puppets I know of: The southpacific and West Moon. Please dont use these in a war as it is considered god-modding, and is quite unfair.
OOC: I am a puppet? LMAO.
Hello puppet.

OOC: You yourself admitted you are a puppet. Check your own post.


When did I use West Moon?
The southpacific?

You misunderstood.
I was questioning since when SP was my puppet.

OOC: I have heard from various nations that you are a chronic puppet nation user, Whittier. The puppets I know of: The southpacific and West Moon. Please dont use these in a war as it is considered god-modding, and is quite unfair.
OOC: I am a puppet? LMAO.
Hello puppet.
Hello MR. Puppet Master.

OOC: deedum. I'm back. I will have to read through all of these threads before posting.

I would ask you all to

1.) Remove the superfluous OOC posts and

2.) Keep the OOC posts to a minimum, remembering the purpose of the thread. Any arguments over who is and isn't a puppet can be carried out in another thread, or privately with TGs.

OOC: You yourself admitted you are a puppet. Check your own post.


When did I use West Moon?
The southpacific?
Perhaps you meant to say "the south pacific" rather than 'the southpacific'?
I admit the first is mine but the latter.

I would ask you all to

1.) Remove the superfluous OOC posts and

2.) Keep the OOC posts to a minimum, remembering the purpose of the thread. Any arguments over who is and isn't a puppet can be carried out in another thread, or privately with TGs.
OOC: I agree.

OOC: I did not. You only deny the second because you are using it now.

OOC: Well. Let's see. Since I cannot trust Whittier at all because he constantly lies... for this RP the southpacific and this 'West Moon' cannot be involved. You clearly admitted they were yours.

Secondly, WMDs can only be used if both parties agree to them. Future tech, scifi tech, and everything else except modern and older tech is not allowed.

OOC: I did not. You only deny the second because you are using it now.OOC: We should take this to the other thread but you'll have to explain how you use two nations at the same time.

Well, you can always have more than one nation logged on at the same time. For example, I am logged onto Xendi, Doujinishia, and Doujin all at the same time. How? I use three different browsers. Mozilla, Opera, and Internet Explorer.

Well, you can always have more than one nation logged on at the same time. For example, I am logged onto Xendi, Doujinishia, and Doujin all at the same time. How? I use three different browsers. Mozilla, Opera, and Internet Explorer.
OOC: In that case I am going to try it. If you see WestMoon, know that is me.

The Arab Socialist Republic of Al Anbar does not plan to leave the territories of Saudi Arabia and Kuwait, for they have now been incorporated into the larger Arab Nation. The people of Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, and Kuwait stand together in their defiance of Whittier's blatant aggression and imperialism against the Arab people.

In other news, Al Anbar will not be returning the spy that flew over our territory without an appology and a agreement that the Russian government will not launch further attacks and espionage missions against Al Anbar. We are willing to allow this spy be returned unharmed with the above terms, otherwise he will go to trial for spying on the Arab Nation and for committing murder.

IDF shall remain neutral at this time. If hostilities begin, we will take sides depending on circumstances or remain neutral. In our current state of neutrality all trade with any nation will be permitted by our trade committee.

OOC: In all actulity we wouldnt send combat troops into Al-Anbar, simply because there is no way we can enough troops over there in time, and, given the opposition, probably wouldnt last that long in a conventional fight. We would only send spec ops troops in if our foreign nationals in Al-Anbar territory were illegally arrested or the like by invading forces.

We do stand by Al-Anbars position, but in reality we would have to fight an unconventional war if we had to actually go into conflict.

From their stationkeeping off the coast of the Principality of North Naori*, the carrier battle groups Bastion and Intrepid began preparations for deployment in the Middle East. Meanwhile, as the two other carrier groups made their way across the oceans to Naori, a massive mobilization was underway throughout Eredron as hundreds of thousands of military personnel prepared for Operation Deliverance.






*North Naori is located in southeast Asia, close to Japan.

OOC: I have tgd tsp and asked him not to participate in this thread.
He was a little upset but I said he could use the other thread "Line in the Sand".
Until the matter is cleared up.

Our fleets are moving into position and time is running out on a defiant Saddam.

three cygnus class carriers, 2 battlships and 2 submarines have been deployed to the middle east to aid whittier in the disposing of saddam

15 aircraft carriers have been deployed to the area and are being escorted by 12 battleships, 24 cruisers, 5 submarines (nuclear), 34 destroyers.
Each carrier holds 110 aircraft.
And I am also deploying BattleIsland to the area.

Coalition forces are ready to go. Saddam Hussein has only three hours left towithdraw from Kuwait.

OOC: Before going to war, could you please list the amount of resources you plan to use? It would a lot helpful for other countries if they know what they'll be up against.

We have over 2.5 million troops in the region ready to free it from the madman Hussein.
There are also a very large array of aircraft including Golden Dragons,
F22s, F117s, B1Bs, B2 Stratofortress bombers, Apache attack choppers, F35's, F16s, F18,s and several other aircraft types. Enough aircraft to have over one hundred sorties per hour.

We have over 2.5 million troops in the region ready to free it from the madman Hussein.
There are also a very large array of aircraft including Golden Dragons,
455 F22s, 980F117s, 780B1SBs,80 B2 Stratofortress bombers, 200Apache attack choppers, 300F35's, 120F16s,340 F18,s and several other aircraft types. Enough aircraft to have over one hundred sorties per hour.
We have also deployed over 1,223 M1A2's and 2,300 T 92s.
899 Crusader self propelled howitzers.
And two Striker regiments.
(Sorry, had to reedit cause of extra zeros. )

Al Anbar Military: http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1659845

OOC: The EXACT number of aircraft, please, Whittier. Don't turn this into a n00b war.

OOC: The EXACT number of aircraft, please, Whittier. Don't turn this into a n00b war.
I have it written down somewhere. I'll have to find it.

5 more carriers, 3 more battleships and 3 more submarines are being deployed to the middle east

We now end our neutrality. We will send our army of
150,000 ground troops with M16A2s with grenade attachment
1,000 light mortars
10,000 RPG-7 soldiers
500 M60A2 tanks
50 125mm Paladins

AF
36 AH-64 Apache Longbows
60 AH-1 Huey Cobras
12F-16Cs
24 F-15Cs
24 F-15Es
12 F-14Ds
12 F/A-18Cs
4 B-52Gs

that is all I have to send

OOC: This will be interesting to watch.

IC: The Freethinkers deplore this unjustifiable response, unfortunately our size does not permit us to be anything but a voice of reason.

To Al Anbar, should you lose this war, then political asylum will be offered to you and your commanders if they should ask for it in the worst case scenario.

Good luck. And although we have no religious belief of our own, we do hope Allah goes with you.

We have commenced airstrikes on targets in Al Anbar, specifically in Baghdad and Tikrit. A marine expeditionary force has landed on shore in Oman. Those forces will be followed by The 3rd Infantry division, the 4th Infantry Division, and the 7th Mechanized Division.

http://www.krysstal.com/images/iraq_01.jpg

We are using 15 F-16Cs with Harms to destroy SAM installations on the border (tag for damage and response). They are still on the north side of the Iraqi border

my forces are are aiding IDF in destroying anti-air sites on the border

As Eredronian air, naval and ground forces continue their mobilization, the first wave of Eredronian Stryker ICBMs were launched towards military and government targets in southeast Iraq.

Mobilization is expected to take another 48 hours.

If the SEAD missions (suppression enemy air defense) continue, massive airstrikes can be made under escort.

We are using 15 F-16Cs with Harms to destroy SAM installations on the border (tag for damage and response). They are still on the north side of the Iraqi border

OOC: I take it that you are Israel? If so, then you can't be here since in my 'reality' Fluffywuffy = Israel.

Post in Whittier's NSNN thread about war movements. I'm not following anything here.