NationStates Jolt Archive

Ladies and gentlemen of the international community, as you know, I have dropped out of the UN recently. It is my belief that the UN has transcended it's usefulness. With the passing of the last resolution, Universal Freedom of Choice, I believe the UN has made irrevokable steps toward a corrupt leftist thought police. I, in good conscience cannot support such an entity. It seems to me the institution of the UN itself, has usurped the sovernity of it's member nations. Given that fact, I see the UN as subverting every NationStates ruler's control of their country.

One may counter this argument stating that entry within the UN is voluntary, and it's exit is always just a click away. I counter saying that there is no balance within the UN. There is no Warsaw Pact to counter NATO, so to speak.

Given this fact, I feel that for the betterment of the entire world, I officially declare the United Nations a hostile entity threatening the autonomy of EVERY nation on this planet.

Shinkar Prime will not tolerate this.

As a result, I will be taking any action, up to, and including, excersizing military power, to restore the autonomy of the planet from this corrupt leftist entity known as the UN. We are seriously considering a method of loosing the grips of the UN from the world peacefully, but should it come to it, we are entirely prepared to attack key UN assets.

Thank you.
-Trin Echiro, Emperor
Shinkar Prime

Good on you but if you declare war on the un.

well lets just say you wont last long.

Shinkar, I suggest you take the more subtle approach. Speak out against the UN with diplomats, not with weapons. And if war does become essential, only do so with those who fervently support this leftist regime. Although I am left-wing, I believe the UN has adopted the worst aspects of both sides. As such, I will quit after this is posted.

Good on you but if you declare war on the un.

well lets just say you wont last long.
It is not our intention to declare war on the member nations of the UN, rather the institution of the UN itself.

Maybe I could build a coalition to support this. There are even member nations of the UN that have harbored the same discontent and frustration I have, and would therefore be willing to engage in dialogues with those such nations.

again, I'd like to state that even if it comes to military action; The UN as an entity will be targeted, not member nations. You have my assurances on this.

Thank you.

The Azerian People stand behind Shinkar Prime and stand prepared to aide her in whatever way possible in her crusade against global tyranny.

You inform the United Nations that The Principality of Muktar will no longer participate in its corrupt, hollow debates. From this moment forward, your nation is on its own.

threatening the autonomy of EVERY nation on this planet.

Semi-OOC: While I agree that the UN has the potential to negate a good portion of what any leader does with his/her country, you can't blame it (accurately) for what happens "under UN authority" to non-UN members. I've said this a number of times, and I don't want to get all worked up over it again, but if a country declares war here because of anything they disagree with (i.e. Slavery) because the UN says it is wrong, then it is not the UN that is wrong, it's the UN country... so maybe all the countries are in the UN when they speak out when it's not their place, but you can't blame the UN for that.....the UN never told them to do it, or backed them up, it merely gave them the idea in the first place.....a bit like blaming cars for road deaths when it is the drivers (and occasionally the pedestrians) that are the cause....

In short....the UN may well threaten the soveriegnity of UN nations, but it is the individual nations which threaten the soveriegnity of non-UN nations.

threatening the autonomy of EVERY nation on this planet.

Semi-OOC: While I agree that the UN has the potential to negate a good portion of what any leader does with his/her country, you can't blame it (accurately) for what happens "under UN authority" to non-UN members. I've said this a number of times, and I don't want to get all worked up over it again, but if a country declares war here because of anything they disagree with (i.e. Slavery) because the UN says it is wrong, then it is not the UN that is wrong, it's the UN country... so maybe all the countries are in the UN when they speak out when it's not their place, but you can't blame the UN for that.....the UN never told them to do it, or backed them up, it merely gave them the idea in the first place.....a bit like blaming cars for road deaths when it is the drivers (and occasionally the pedestrians) that are the cause....

In short....the UN may well threaten the soveriegnity of UN nations, but it is the individual nations which threaten the soveriegnity of non-UN nations.

OOC:
I know. Just opening up my nation for a "possible supporter of terrorism with a cause," making for more interesting RP... especially with how nations within my region will deal with this.

IC:
The United Nations, as a governing body has a moral obligation to respect the idiocyncracies of all of it's member nations. It does not. This body makes no account of the uniqueness of every nation within her fold. The UN as an entity is amoral, and is an inherant threat to it's members, as the goals of the UN itself, is to support the UN, and not member nations. It is obviously a corrupt leftist organization. While it's true the effects of the Member Nations are obvious, what you may not notice is that within the international community and inter-regional affairs, UN membership is something of a bargaining tool, thus forcing nations to join and consent to such asinine resolutions as Universal Freedom of Choice. It is the belief of many nations in the world that freedom in and of itself is a priveledge and not a right. Too many compromises are being made in the name of increasing one's sphere of influence.

This will no longer be tolerated.

If you want to launch an effective campaign against the UN, go to the UN forum and argue against whatever resolutions are blatantly corrupt, such as Universal Freedom of Choice. If you read it carefully, it legalizes pornographic articles to people of all ages. I'm going to check for more things that may have slipped through the cracks with that resolution.

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Thats the way to do 8it.

Sadly, any attack on the UN will have many NS players bombing you. So its best to just speak out, and maybe find others that agree with you

why would anyone be bothered with the UN? if you're not a member then you're not affected by their little laws...

There are plenty of regions who's sole policy is to bring down the UN, try looking for them.

Colodia supports the downfall of the UN

Anyone who joins the UN must abide by it's rule and regulation. Those who oppose are nations who expect the UN serve their agendas and not for the good of member states of UN community. It is not different from joining any alliance as those have their own rules which can be more invasive.

The UN is a leftist organization, with no system of checks or balances.
Until there is an organization with as much clout as the UN to counter it's leftist push, Shinkar Prime will view this entity as a threat.

The UN is the only connection we have with nations we have NEVER EVER heard of, the UN makes our world a little less big, a little less chaotic.

There are serious problems with the UN, but it brings us more benefits.

You said it: if you do not agree with the UN, then just leave, because it may be right that the UN is reducing the independece and sovereignty of its members, but that nations are on their sacred right to allow the UN to do so.

You are not going to be seen as a liberator, you are gonig to be seen as a violent barbarian trying to imposse his way. The UN is just a diplomatic -barbarian, if you wish- trying to imposse its way.
The difference is huge, and because of that, my support is for the UN.

ooc: you do know the un dosn't really effect your country game wise right? it was just an extra spoof the mods tossed in

ooc: you do know the un dosn't really effect your country game wise right? it was just an extra spoof the mods tossed in

OCC: Yes, I know. I was in the UN for about a month or so. I think people are missing the point. RL Terrorist regimes are a lil bit fact, and a lil bit interpretation.

As I am RPing.

I'm not going to drop nukes on the UN building, though from time to time, A cook working for the UN building may poison someone's salad and kill them.

Subtle things like that.
Subtle things.