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OOC: Cool new rendering of my wares :) [pic warning]

27-03-2004, 02:26
http://www.bateshome.com/jordan/26542.jpg

In case you guys didn't know, I've also been doing 3d pics of stuff NS players design, so if you have a sketch you want to see put into 3d, just ask, and I'll see what I can do!

http://www.bateshome.com/jordan/cg.jpg
East Islandia
27-03-2004, 02:31
Excellent drawing. You have mad skillz.
27-03-2004, 02:35
Excellent drawing. You have mad skillz.thanks, about the only thing I didn't draw was the original Su-37 model I modded for my planes
GameFAQ
27-03-2004, 02:37
nice
The Zoogie People
27-03-2004, 02:55
Nice :P I'll get back to you when I get my sketches of aircraft uploaded.

Just for a demonstration though, can you show me what you can do with my two cargo aircraft (not sketches, but concept art)? I'll give you the link in a sec...

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=131905&highlight=
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=127367&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
Neo-Soviet Russia
27-03-2004, 02:57
You know of any 3d modelling porgs that enable you to simply scan blueprints and it'll translate them? I've ehard of one or two that are like that, though I cant remember names.
27-03-2004, 02:59
You know of any 3d modelling porgs that enable you to simply scan blueprints and it'll translate them? I've ehard of one or two that are like that, though I cant remember names.Check download.com... I think Lightwave can do it, but I don't know how lol
EDIT: Nm, you can scan an image, and select points on it... that's about all I know how to do... I'll see if there's another program
New Empire
27-03-2004, 03:02
Nice... Makes me wish I had something better than DOGA.
27-03-2004, 03:16
Nice... Makes me wish I had something better than DOGA.If you give me your doga file, I might be able to render it in LW
Agrigento
27-03-2004, 03:26
I am just curious if you could do anything with this:

http://www.angelfire.com/ill/agrigento/Altasmall4.bmp

I made it using MS Paint, from a picture of the X-32. The Front View would be much more like the F-35 and F/A-22 than that plane though.
27-03-2004, 03:30
I am just curious if you could do anything with this:

http://www.angelfire.com/ill/agrigento/Altasmall4.bmp

I made it using MS Paint, from a picture of the X-32. The Front View would be much more like the F-35 and F/A-22 than that plane though.kinda complex, but I'll give it a shot... I just happen to have an F-35 model on me
Agrigento
27-03-2004, 03:31
Thanks a lot. If it is too much trouble or if it doesn't come out well, its fine. If there is one thing I can appreciate is a good effort.
Thunderstraat
27-03-2004, 03:37
Righteous pics there, brother. I may be able to dig up some ancient pencil sketches (I haven't used Thunderstraat in a long time) for you. My ships are mostly ungraceful boxes anyway.

By the way, could you do a space battleship, any kind, with the AOL emblem on it? I'm attempting to write a Story that's set in the future and has some Jennifer Government-like elements (nothing plagiarized or anything, just mentions of the PepsiCo invasion of Cuba and stuff like that).
The Zoogie People
27-03-2004, 03:40
http://www.simlabs.arc.nasa.gov/photos/images/aircraft/astovl.jpeg

I'm going to use this picture for my next release, but at least on my computer, it's rather dark and hard to see...could you do a perspective view of it?
27-03-2004, 04:01
Agrigento:

http://www.bateshome.com/jordan/argen.jpg

Does that work?
AfrikaZkorps
27-03-2004, 04:04
Id buy thoose. :) Then again I buy anything I like... :(
Chellis
27-03-2004, 04:07
Not bad pics, although as a 3ds max user, I personally think thats more of a cheater way of modeling(although you are only using it for pics, i have nothing against that). One of /my/ creations, its a WiP for a video game gun.

http://e.domaindlx.com/Raslin/AKrender4.jpg
http://e.domaindlx.com/Raslin/AKrender5.jpg
Agrigento
27-03-2004, 04:09
Hmmm...very nice. I will see how I will incorporate it, but good job. :]
27-03-2004, 04:12
Zoogie:

http://www.bateshome.com/jordan/zoogie.jpg
Edenstein
27-03-2004, 04:13
*tag for nifty pics and nice work*

I see that you can do planes and such, what about Naval vessals?
27-03-2004, 04:15
Chellis, first off... I don't appreciate you breaking my scrollbars lol

Second, what do you mean I cheated? Editing other peoples models? yeah... that's what I do when I don't want to spend hours doing it... I can make them if I want though, and I have before, but planes are just hard
27-03-2004, 04:16
*tag for nifty pics and nice work*

I see that you can do planes and such, what about Naval vessals?lol not really, but I can edit already existing models... what did you have in mind?
West Scotland
27-03-2004, 04:17
Thank you Raysia!!!!!!!!!!! (Zoogie by the way)
Edenstein
27-03-2004, 04:18
Well, I'm working on two classes of battleship, I have found some good blueprint pics and 3d models but its not quite what I had in mind.. I've never worked with models so I don't know how to do it.. I'll dig up the links a little later and let you know.
Chellis
27-03-2004, 04:21
You didnt cheat, but it just seems that way to a real modeler. I mean, you are just kinda making a collage of model parts, not really making it yourself. Again, I have nothing against it, im just saying.
27-03-2004, 04:46
chellis: Oh, that? No, I don't do that... i make all my own models. The only thing I ever used prefab was the Su-37 model that I edited... I make all my modified parts myself... I never drag and drop like in Doga.

Thunderstraat:
http://www.bateshome.com/jordan/straat.jpg

Like that image, chellis... made every polygon myself, but grabbed the textures off the web
27-03-2004, 04:48
Well, I'm working on two classes of battleship, I have found some good blueprint pics and 3d models but its not quite what I had in mind.. I've never worked with models so I don't know how to do it.. I'll dig up the links a little later and let you know.awesome site for free meshes to base your stuff on, or modify:

http://www.3dcafe.com/asp/meshes.asp
The Zoogie People
27-03-2004, 04:48
Sponsored by Pepsi and shaped like a giant soda bottle, eh?
27-03-2004, 04:49
Sponsored by Pepsi and shaped like a giant soda bottle, eh?OH that one, from the issues? LOL I'll see what I can do!
27-03-2004, 04:53
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imported_Sileetris
27-03-2004, 04:58
As always, more proof that I need something more than MSCavePaint, but the pic looks kinda spastic with all the stuff flying everywhere and the lense-flare and sun are kinda slapdash...
27-03-2004, 05:03
pop can ship :P

http://www.bateshome.com/jordan/pepsi2.jpg
27-03-2004, 05:05
As always, more proof that I need something more than MSCavePaint, but the pic looks kinda spastic with all the stuff flying everywhere and the lense-flare and sun are kinda slapdash...It's just supposed to be a fun pic for the front page of my website:

http://www.bateshome.com/jordan/rmtdex.htm

Not supposed to be a realistic scene from a war... just showing off the stuff I sell.
27-03-2004, 05:06
Raysia:

Could you make me a logo thing like all those that people put under their posts? I don't really have anything sketched out since I can't draw though...Umm... do you just want your nation name? or what...?
27-03-2004, 05:19
http://www.bateshome.com/jordan/sniperc.gif
or
http://www.bateshome.com/jordan/sniperc.jpg
The Zoogie People
27-03-2004, 17:31
You really made one? Heh, I was referring to the Thunderstraat.
Phoenixius
27-03-2004, 18:56
Rasyia, I know you don't really do ships, but could you do something with the plans on my storefront please? The link is below:


http://www.freewebs.com/phoenixius/PIMS.JPG (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=131891)
Central Facehuggeria
27-03-2004, 20:13
Raysia, do you do infantry combat scenes? Specifically one using powered armor? (I can provide pictures for what I'm looking for if you decide to try an infantry combat scene.)
27-03-2004, 20:52
Raysia, do you do infantry combat scenes? Specifically one using powered armor? (I can provide pictures for what I'm looking for if you decide to try an infantry combat scene.)LOL I can't do people. If I were to do anything, it'd be in photoshop
Central Facehuggeria
27-03-2004, 20:55
It was worth a try. :)
27-03-2004, 20:55
Rasyia, I know you don't really do ships, but could you do something with the plans on my storefront please? The link is below:


http://www.freewebs.com/phoenixius/PIMS.JPG (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=131891)You mean the Enyan class Trimarine Carrier and the Revion class Trimarine Battleship? I think I could do that... but it'd take some time.
Thunderstraat
27-03-2004, 20:58
Wow! I was thinking more of a just AOL ship, with the "a" symbol on it or something, but that's cool too. My thoughts were more along the lines of <corporation's> private fleet. The story... meh, you need to know the basic storyline to know what I'm talking about...

SYNOPSIS:
The story, "Cheerful Chaos" (or something to that effect) takes place in a world where, instead of either becoming a single peaceful entity or separating into united worlds, human nationalism, imperialism, and capitalism have spread through the civilised universe. It starts with a few deadhead vacationers watching an alien space battle, with the human mercenaries they've hired doing most of the work. It's gonna be basically someone explaining the whole cool idea.
any questions? there's a lot more...

anyone for a Cheerful Chaos RP?
27-03-2004, 21:08
Oh, I was thinking like a race car with many sponsers.... you mean a ship for just one corporation? That could be harder lol but I'll try
27-03-2004, 21:17
http://www.bateshome.com/jordan/aolship.jpg
Fluffywuffy
27-03-2004, 21:30
By any chance do you do tanks? I have a tank I'd like to have in a cool, un-Photoshoped form.

The tank (if you could please do one):

http://www.stewarts.net/zac/mbt.jpg
27-03-2004, 21:42
By any chance do you do tanks? I have a tank I'd like to have in a cool, un-Photoshoped form.

The tank (if you could please do one):

http://www.stewarts.net/zac/mbt.jpgI don't understand what you are asking...
Thunderstraat
27-03-2004, 21:43
LEET!
I'll post the rough draft of the first part of the story as soon as I can.
27-03-2004, 21:49
LEET!
I'll post the rough draft of the first part of the story as soon as I can.cool, might join (As CC)
Thunderstraat
27-03-2004, 21:58
It's more of a story kind of story than an RP. We could make an RP out of it. Jennifer Government in space, except the nations have power too.
Come to think of it, have we ever had a Jennifer Government RP?
Capsule Corporation
27-03-2004, 21:59
It's more of a story kind of story than an RP. We could make an RP out of it. Jennifer Government in space, except the nations have power too.
Come to think of it, have we ever had a Jennifer Government RP?not really... that'd have to be a nationstates-wide thing... though I try to do that in my nation :P
Thunderstraat
27-03-2004, 22:22
Oh well... I tried to start one with Roseway, but no one posted on it.
27-03-2004, 22:28
Oh well... I tried to start one with Roseway, but no one posted on it.link?
Thunderstraat
27-03-2004, 22:34
Nevermind, it's three months old and not too high-quality anyway. Two paragraphs and an empty list.
Chellis
27-03-2004, 23:24
In that case, nice modeling! Thought you were using doga.
28-03-2004, 00:06
In that case, nice modeling! Thought you were using doga.Nope, I model everything I can from scratch... basically everything on the CC storefront (except the bots and mecha) were modeled polygon by polygon by me.

On another note, I've recently been taking a few 3dcafe tutorials, and i'm learning a lot!
28-03-2004, 02:00
Rasyia, I know you don't really do ships, but could you do something with the plans on my storefront please? The link is below:


http://www.freewebs.com/phoenixius/PIMS.JPG (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=131891)You mean the Enyan class Trimarine Carrier and the Revion class Trimarine Battleship? I think I could do that... but it'd take some time.Here's the Enyan class:

http://www.bateshome.com/jordan/enyan.gif

Sorry I couldn't put it on a bakckground, that would be tons of work
28-03-2004, 02:44
same thing here, your Revion Class:

http://www.bateshome.com/jordan/revion.gif

Hey, that was actually kinda fun to make lol
28-03-2004, 04:49
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Phoenixius
28-03-2004, 11:38
Thanks Raysia. I don't mind if they don't have a background. I hope you don't mind but I may have some more pics for you in the future Your a star.
Wormia
28-03-2004, 16:18
You use Lightwave?

Hm. Never used it honestly... I'm an ardent 3ds Max 6.0 user... you can check out well... here...

http://www.angelfire.com/stars5/karasitha/Cruiser_-_Firing.jpg

That's one o' mine...
28-03-2004, 21:32
You use Lightwave?

Hm. Never used it honestly... I'm an ardent 3ds Max 6.0 user... you can check out well... here...

http://www.angelfire.com/stars5/karasitha/Cruiser_-_Firing.jpg

That's one o' mine...that's freakin awesome! All I know is what I figured out by pushing buttons... only recently have I started taking some online tutorials.

Really sucks that the battleship in my opening post of this thread has already been discontinued :P
Wormia
28-03-2004, 21:37
I learned everything I know from 3dcafe.com.... man that site RULES. 3dluvr helped a mite, also.

Does Lightwave have bump mapping?
28-03-2004, 21:46
I learned everything I know from 3dcafe.com.... man that site RULES. 3dluvr helped a mite, also.

Does Lightwave have bump mapping?Yeah, it does... though I have no clue what it does :P care to explain it?
28-03-2004, 22:13
Redid Moozimoo's RS-33:

http://www.bateshome.com/jordan/rs-33.jpg
Eternal FIame
28-03-2004, 22:18
Could you possibly render the FEF F/B-1C?
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=135117
Wormia
28-03-2004, 22:24
I learned everything I know from 3dcafe.com.... man that site RULES. 3dluvr helped a mite, also.

Does Lightwave have bump mapping?Yeah, it does... though I have no clue what it does :P care to explain it?

Not at all. I try not to use it... unless mapping turns out right.

Anyways, what it is is simply a picture. You place in your... bumpmap slot or whatever Lightwave's material editor uses. Anyways, the final rendering comes out with patterns on the surface that make it appear as though it isn't a flat texture. It looks bumpy, like, with panels or whatever. The light patterns striking the surface are altered to make the surface appear bumpy, when in fact is still flat.

Material-wise, I like 'em on simplistic models, but that's just cause I'm a nitpicky one when mapping is concerned.
28-03-2004, 23:10
New Phoenixius ship:

http://www.bateshome.com/jordan/culth1.gif

Eternal Flame: I guess I could try... what does it look like? You gotta have some sketch or idea in mind :P

Wormia: Ahh, that's what I thought, but couldn't believe :P That's pretty cool!

--------

Here's my current project: A rendering of my Jumbo NVTOL:
Original:
http://www.bateshome.com/jordan/bnvtol.gif

Rendering so far:
http://www.bateshome.com/jordan/bnvtol22.jpg
You can see i'm almost done, just need to make the engines and texture it
28-03-2004, 23:21
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The Zoogie People
28-03-2004, 23:41
Okay...this may be a large project, Raysia, sorry if I'm bothering you...if it takes too long, don't bother.

This is for me and Kazakhstania's Sharkishki (since renamed, but I forgot the new name) project, which utilizes a Su-37 airframe...however, I don't really want it to be just like an Su-37, as there are often complaints about people who take an RL aircraft and give it a new name.

There are also many versions of the Sharkishki, which is a naval fighter (but will also operate out of land bases).

Can you make an Su-37 model, but slightly different? Just slightly, no major or noticeable changes, just a refinement of the airframe...thanks.

We'll need a standard single seat model, as well as a two-seater...and I believe, also a tandem side by side two seater (not the Su-34, but a tandem dual-seat Su-37)...

Again, sorry if I'm bothering you...
The Zoogie People
28-03-2004, 23:52
Okay...this may be a large project, Raysia, sorry if I'm bothering you...if it takes too long, don't bother.

This is for me and Kazakhstania's Sharkishki (since renamed, but I forgot the new name) project, which utilizes a Su-37 airframe...however, I don't really want it to be just like an Su-37, as there are often complaints about people who take an RL aircraft and give it a new name.

There are also many versions of the Sharkishki, which is a naval fighter (but will also operate out of land bases).

Can you make an Su-37 model, but slightly different? Just slightly, no major or noticeable changes, just a refinement of the airframe...thanks.

We'll need a standard single seat model, as well as a two-seater...and I believe, also a tandem side by side two seater (not the Su-34, but a tandem dual-seat Su-37)...

Again, sorry if I'm bothering you...
29-03-2004, 00:20
Sniper: Sorry buddy, having troubles finding a premade model.. I'll have to draw it from scratch, will take a while.

Zoogie: is this ok?
http://www.bateshome.com/jordan/37mod2.jpg

I don't have a model of, nor know what a 2-seater looks like... didn't know they made one.
29-03-2004, 00:21
Oh, and SC: Do you want me to put on a jet engine or a ramjet or something? Because a scramjet only works at supersonic speeds...

If so, you're probably looking at a modified F-104 or something
The Zoogie People
29-03-2004, 00:28
Looks good, but could you get rid of those triangle things on the wings? Otherwise looks fine...

No they didn't make two seat versions of the Su-37, but we're going to...if you can't make one, that's okay, it's not anywhere online anyways.
Omz222
29-03-2004, 00:42
Raysia, if you don't mind, can you make a model for me? The line drawing is here (http://members.lycos.co.uk/omz123/f25aline.gif) (a lousy MS paint-modified F-108)

The background would be perferred could be the background of the RS-33 model.

Thanks a lot.
29-03-2004, 00:51
http://www.bateshome.com/jordan/37mod22.jpg
29-03-2004, 00:53
Raysia, if you don't mind, can you make a model for me? The line drawing is here (http://members.lycos.co.uk/omz123/f25aline.gif) (a lousy MS paint-modified F-108)

The background would be perferred could be the background of the RS-33 model.

Thanks a lot.it'll take a while :) Same thing as Sniper... no pre-made model... It'd take me a while to do, and right now I am working on my NVTOL jumbo
Omz222
29-03-2004, 01:07
Raysia, if you don't mind, can you make a model for me? The line drawing is here (http://members.lycos.co.uk/omz123/f25aline.gif) (a lousy MS paint-modified F-108)

The background would be perferred could be the background of the RS-33 model.

Thanks a lot.it'll take a while :) Same thing as Sniper... no pre-made model... It'd take me a while to do, and right now I am working on my NVTOL jumbo
No problem, take your time to make the rest of the models perfect. Thanks again.
The Zoogie People
29-03-2004, 01:14
Thanks, Raysia.
Agrigento
29-03-2004, 02:57
Agrigento:

http://www.bateshome.com/jordan/argen.jpg

Does that work?

Its really good, but I was wondering if you could make the airframe a little more flowy? What I mean by this is that you remove where the very front of the wings meet with the fuselage itself, not the substructure and that the undercarriage substructure ends further away from the cockpit. It is also a twin engine aircraft

Take all the time you need for this. I understand you have other things that take precedent so whenever you can would be great.
29-03-2004, 03:09
Arg: You said nothing about 2 engines... and all your requests together would mean a TON of work, if not a whole new model. That thing I made you was just an F-35 modified to fit your picture... you're asking for something a lot different.... perhaps I should just use an F-22 model or something?
Agrigento
29-03-2004, 03:22
Arg: You said nothing about 2 engines... and all your requests together would mean a TON of work, if not a whole new model. That thing I made you was just an F-35 modified to fit your picture... you're asking for something a lot different.... perhaps I should just use an F-22 model or something?

Sure, I know, I should've given you much more details. A F-22 might work better, if you can get it in Delta Wing Configuration. I don't expect this anytime soon...and if its too much then you can forget about it completely.
29-03-2004, 03:39
Arg: You said nothing about 2 engines... and all your requests together would mean a TON of work, if not a whole new model. That thing I made you was just an F-35 modified to fit your picture... you're asking for something a lot different.... perhaps I should just use an F-22 model or something?

Sure, I know, I should've given you much more details. A F-22 might work better, if you can get it in Delta Wing Configuration. I don't expect this anytime soon...and if its too much then you can forget about it completely.Wow... now I have absolutely no idea what you want. Can you sketch it out or something?
29-03-2004, 03:45
my new NVTOL rendering:

http://www.bateshome.com/jordan/jnvtolfly.jpg
http://www.bateshome.com/jordan/jnvtoloff.jpg
imported_Sileetris
29-03-2004, 04:49
Wings are awfully thin, especially for a cargo plane. Remember that the wings need to hold fuel, so they need to be big.
29-03-2004, 04:53
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29-03-2004, 05:02
Wings are awfully thin, especially for a cargo plane. Remember that the wings need to hold fuel, so they need to be big.Fuel is held in the top of the fuselage, as it needs to fuel all 6 engines... and the wings are full of heavy support structures to keep the engines from ripping the wings off.
Agrigento
29-03-2004, 05:06
http://www.angelfire.com/ill/agrigento/Altasmall4.bmp

This is the only picture of it I have right now, I will see what I can do though. All I ask is if you could make it twin engine, and the canards a tiny little bit more aerodynamic :].

edit: WTF Mate? Lol, its working on the other two pages its posted on...very weird...
29-03-2004, 06:42
http://www.angelfire.com/ill/agrigento/Altasmall4.bmp

This is the only picture of it I have right now, I will see what I can do though. All I ask is if you could make it twin engine, and the canards a tiny little bit more aerodynamic :].

edit: WTF Mate? Lol, its working on the other two pages its posted on...very weird...you used up all your bandwidth, and you're posting an uncompressed image that most people don't want to download :P
Phoenixius
29-03-2004, 10:39
Your new plane looks brilliant Raysia - I might buy a few alter for my troops. And the ship looks good so far. I've TG'd you with the fuel boom pics.
Phoenixius
30-03-2004, 16:19
Raysia could you convert this with your amazing powers when your ready:

http://www.freewebs.com/phoenixius/PX-E1b.JPG

Its based on an F-35 if you need it - the wings have been changed and the tailplanes have been removed.
03-04-2004, 00:06
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Thunderstraat
06-04-2004, 21:05
I sighed. There was no getting out of it. I leaned back to enjoy the show.
It was a sort of gruesome fireworks show, that battle; beautiful flashes of colorful lights, but inside them, sentients were dying. The Jamaican, Sputh, and Australian faction was winning, while the Fjalni, having had to settle on a less warlike breed of human, were beat back relentlessly. The Norwegians on the Fjalni side were underpaid and outgunned.
As the last Fjalni battlecruiser's engines overheated, the lights all over its exterior powered off, leaving a black shape as the only remnant of the alien fleet. At the same time, the station rocked as a brilliant white flash left a glowing afterimage in the observers' eyes.
"Norwegians got nukes!"
I looked around to see a grown man clapping his hands like a child. I sighed again. Was Newday the only peacable human nation?
I stopped that thought with an answer: of course. I had had that train of thought so many times before it was almost unconscious.
The Norwegians pounded on, with the last Fjalni fighters lagging behind. The sleek human ships left the small and rather chunky aliens looking quite benign.
There went the Australians; a daring Norwegian fighter pilot had disabled their carrier, and the Australian fighters were out of date anyway. The Sputh ships scattered, leaving the Jamaican force alone against the onrushing Scandinavians.
The battle was all but won when the tide turned again; more bright flashes heralded the arrival of another space fleet. This was unexpected. I noticed the insignia of more Sputh, as well as the AOL logo and Chinese stars. These ships were even sleeker; the Norwegians would be hard pressed to stop these, and the Fjalni would have no chance.
I sighed again and walked from the observation deck. Once you've seen one battle, you've seen them all, and I was getting a headache. Probably some subliminals in that bomb. Norway was infamous for putting advertisements in their weapons.
I plopped on my bed and turned on the news. Nothing out of the ordinary was happening. That is, the PepsiCo invasion of Cuba was going badly for the Cubans, and the LaserQuest World Cup between Kazakstan and Vanuatu in Microsoft corporate territory had ended in a Kazak victory, but aside from that, nothing. Everyone was playing by the rules; they didn't want to see a huge fleet with a star or a wheel coming in to spoil the fun...


Here's the snippet. Do ye ken what I'm trying to build?