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Reaper MBT, from WiH! All new!

26-03-2004, 20:43
OOC: This is all copyright, the tank is now going into full production, and so therefore all orders can be got to you quickly. I reserve the right to not sell to any nation, as well as being able to take back any tanks i sell, but this is unlikely to happen. This tech is slightly future, important to note when RPing.

IC:
The MBDT-12(reaper) is the newest invention from WiH. It has a new type of armour designed by which was designed directly to combat the threat of the relatively new ET (Electro thermal ) guns.
Weapon:
The actual armament is great, with 2machines guns as well as the main armament and mortar. This is to help combat against Personnel and top of the range AFV’s, as well as helicopters and MBTs of all types.
The ET gun uses electrical energy to control the release of energy from the rounds, and significantly improves on the performance of existing conventional Guns. The electrical energy is used to create a high-temperature plasma, which in turn both ignites the propellants and controls the release of the chemical energy stored in the propellants during the ballistic cycle.
Armour:
The main armour type is called trienum, a metal that was found in the asteroid called Nunder2, it landed in WiH billions of years ago(2 billion estimated). Trienum is a composition of several high density elements combined in what seems to have been a massive explosion, when the rock parted with its mother planet. Trienum Is reactive, and when hit by an ET type shell explodes, taking out around 100mm of armour, witch can be put back using the kits that are sold here. The Trienum is layered with Cobham and composite materials so that not all of the Trienum explodes at the same time. The tank also uses DU (depleted uranium) in a steel encasing to stop small arms fire and more conventional weapons (not using rail guns or ET technologies). This makes the tank as heavy as it is, but makes it extremely hard to penetrate.
EW systems: The tank uses MEWS-3(WiH)
Also, due to new EMP (basically microwave bombs that take out electronics) technology we have made a anti-EMP paint, that is added to every tank at no extra charge, this alone cost a lot of money and so we have patented this exact development.
To aid the crew the tank is equipped with

Specs:
Height: 2.52m
Length: 8.85m
Width: 3.8m
Weight: Max combat: 65tons
Combat average: 63tons
Range: Max: 600miles
Obstacle negotiation: Fording depth: 2.2 m on the move/7.5 m with OPVT (snorkel)
Trench width: 3.2 m
Vertical obstacle: 1.1 m
Maximum gradient: 45° Maximum tilt: 45°
Main Armament: 140mm ETC gun, firing rate 8-10r/m
Length of barrel: 10.85m
Secondary armament: coaxial 7.62mm GPMG, with 2000 rounds. AAMG 12.7mm Remotely operated. 500 rounds. One 81mm Mortar 23 rounds. There is space for more storage of ammunition without to much loss of fuel or any vital supplies.
Smoke dischargers: 4X2 smoke dischargers, can be adapted for use with normal rounds, with proper kit. It is also possible to add an anti-air missile system, such as the stinger type. If wanted, diesel fuel can be injected into the
Speed: Max road speed: 67KIPH
Max cross country speed: 55KPH.
Engine: WME A-360 1300hp Diesel engine
Ammunition: 45 rounds, 25 in carousel
Crew: 3
Armour: Trienum and DU in a steel encasing, 900mm thickness, with extra armour kits: up to 1400mm with speed, distance and weight changed to accept the extra protection.
Price: 5million Heavens DTR (equal to one US Dollar)
Trienum Armour kit 300mm(hull and turret, turret less): 50,000DTR
400mm: 53,000 DTR
Prices for Trienum armour are likely to go up as the amount of stock levels go down.
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Sephrioth
26-03-2004, 20:45
ill take 600000
Doujin
26-03-2004, 20:46
WiH, your tank must just guzzle the gas, eh? And the tonnage is a bit low with all you have on there.. ETC's cost a lot, and weight a lot..
26-03-2004, 20:51
ill take 600000
That was quick! Right, one thing i forgot: Do your own maths! There are also some discounts for allies! Thats 3,000,000,000,000, a bit to much for you, sorry. The maximum you can have is 2107, but id suggest you buy 100 for the moment and come back later. Plesure doing bussiness, as usual!
26-03-2004, 20:52
WiH, your tank must just guzzle the gas, eh? And the tonnage is a bit low with all you have on there.. ETC's cost a lot, and weight a lot..
Thats why they cost 5million, and the ETC gun is actually lighter than a conventional weapon, or so my studies indicate. Ill up the tonage, my scientists made a miscalculation.
Sephrioth
26-03-2004, 20:53
ok ps we are at war with New--Lorien
Sephrioth
26-03-2004, 20:54
2100 more plz
26-03-2004, 20:55
Edit to the tank, sorry, i apologise again for my scientists and engineers mistakes!
S, ill get them to you as quickly as possible, if you need help then TG me.
26-03-2004, 20:56
2100 more plz
I can only get you 1000 more, and thats cutting it fine...http://www.pipian.com/stuffforchat/gdpcalc.php?nation=Sephrioth&defenseprovided=1&defense=1&militarybudget=1&defense=15

Thats a good GDP calc, check it out all of you! Just change the nations name from Sephrioth to your nations name.
Small bump!
Sephrioth
26-03-2004, 20:58
btw will u join my colalition war in heaven
Sephrioth
26-03-2004, 21:01
what do u say yes or no
26-03-2004, 21:02
Sephrioth, could you TG me the information on it first please? That would be great, and Doujin, look out, theres some good places to advertise!
Sephrioth
26-03-2004, 21:03
we apriciate it if u did
Nimzonia
26-03-2004, 21:12
A 63 ton tank is not going to hit 67 mph. Maybe 67 kph.
Sephrioth
27-03-2004, 00:34
2000 more
Central Facehuggeria
27-03-2004, 00:43
A modern M1A2 costs around 5,000,000 USD. A tank with all this experimental equipment (I'm presuming you aren't a future nation here) would cost upwards of 10,000,000+ USD. It's a good concept though, and once you raise the price I may consider purchasing some.
Crookfur
27-03-2004, 01:35
OOC:

Just out of interest how on earth does the "reactive" portion of the armor determine whats hitting it be it ETC, ET, EM or straight Chemical? (ETC and ET are slightly different, both use the same ignition system but ETC realies on energy stored within the propellant while ET doesn't really have a propellant as such).

They would all use very similar penetration rounds and in soem cases have very simialr velocitys ie the US appraoch to ETC is how to get the same power out of a lighter gun system (for the super duper 20ton machine of death) rahter than the German appraoch which was simply to get more power...
27-03-2004, 10:13
A 63 ton tank is not going to hit 67 mph. Maybe 67 kph.
Yep, another mistake there, should be KM, damn it,
Chellis
27-03-2004, 10:16
Ehh...

140mm gun? can you say impractical?

Also, I would make the tracks more protected, otherwise a soldier can just fire an AT gun into them and fuck you up.
Transnapastain
27-03-2004, 10:19
Transnapastain would like to purchase 1 tank for research purposes and then to be displayed in our Museum of Foreign Militaries
Chellis
27-03-2004, 10:23
I wont mention how godmodish it is to make up a mineral just to make your tank stronger... Should I be able to invent a mineral that is invisible and explodes when humans get near? Drop it on cities, and kill everyone off?
Sephrioth
27-03-2004, 13:40
we use mainly wih weaponary cuz its is more relieable then the stuff my mod creates
Sephrioth
27-03-2004, 13:49
so there
27-03-2004, 20:18
Ehh...

140mm gun? can you say impractical?

Also, I would make the tracks more protected, otherwise a soldier can just fire an AT gun into them and f--- you up.
Um, do you ever read the stuff that other people have done? Look at the T-7(i think) Gilgamesh. I never read any complaints. Also, there are plans to experiment with 155mm guns on tanks.
I wont mention how godmodish it is to make up a mineral just to make your tank stronger... Should I be able to invent a mineral that is invisible and explodes when humans get near? Drop it on cities, and kill everyone off?

I could just have said it uses explosive armour as most new tanks can, but i decided to do this, i could have said that i used some really powerful explosives extremely well calculated to only take out 100mm. And if the round still carries on then another 100mm explodes and so forth. So i am not GODMODING! If only you people did some research! Come on! So in other words, no, this wont take out a city, DO RESEARCH! AND YOU HAVE 2000+ POSTS! ARGHHHHHH!

OK back to IC(if you can call storefronts IC...):
Transnapastain, your order is confirmed, It will be sent to you immediatly, my military can wait a little longer for one more tank.
27-03-2004, 20:34
I wont mention how godmodish it is to make up a mineral just to make your tank stronger... Should I be able to invent a mineral that is invisible and explodes when humans get near? Drop it on cities, and kill everyone off?
Oh, the way it works is that the Round hits the armour making it explode, this then stops the round(Dont ask! :D )
Sephrioth
27-03-2004, 21:19
sure my disruptors are good but have a tendency to overload war in heaven sephrioth is way future tech
Chellis
27-03-2004, 23:22
Just because someone else did something dumb in ns doesnt mean its not dumb for you to do it(the Gilgamesh).

And its still godmodding to invent a materiel like that. Just use ERA, its not godmodding but basically the same.
Crookfur
27-03-2004, 23:42
OOC:
Chelis:
The Gilgamesh does actually work out quiet well, for the big gun you need sacrafices and we made them namely the very small crew compartment and the rather hot engine.

140mm guns aren't at all a problem, the next german upgrade of the Leopard will feature a 140mm gun and one of the (many) Abrams programs suggests a 135mm as do a number of soviet programs.

War_in_heaven:
Explosive Reactive Armor was initially designed to stop HEAT warheads by disrupting thier plasma flow or detonating them prematurely, russian style "heavy" ERA added a heavy plate that served to deflect/shatter/blunt long rod penetrators.
For a more viable working of your material (hey its future tech after all) perhaps look at the basis for Non Explosive RA (NERA) which serves to use the velocity of a round aginst it
31-03-2004, 17:28
OOC:
War_in_heaven:
Explosive Reactive Armor was initially designed to stop HEAT warheads by disrupting thier plasma flow or detonating them prematurely, russian style "heavy" ERA added a heavy plate that served to deflect/shatter/blunt long rod penetrators.
For a more viable working of your material (hey its future tech after all) perhaps look at the basis for Non Explosive RA (NERA) which serves to use the velocity of a round aginst it

Hm, i like that idea Crookfur, thanks. And also a small BUMP here, why cant this sell out in a day!?! Oh well, and chellis, NS is all about RPing stuff, i could have RPed that i have found a new material, but i thought that might be a waste of time, if you want then ill RP it, althrough this material will not be used anymore...