NationStates Jolt Archive


Update on the Doujin Class 'Super Dreadnought'

Doujin
25-03-2004, 07:34
As work continues on the Doujin, I have chosen a few select nations that are able to get a preview of what is to come.

Nations chosen:
Unum Veritas
Scandavian States
War_in_heaven
Credonia
Pwnica
New Empire
The Zoogie People
Edit: Clan Smoke Jaguar can to, if he wants

The prospective people, please telegram me or email me either your MSN / AIM / Yahoo instant messenger address, or give me your email address.

MSN -> Email Address -> obsideus@verizon.net
AIM -> Obsideus
Yahoo -> gaizme


Moving on, I formally release this information to the public community (OOC of course, but still :p)

FAQ About the Doujin, and naval warfare in NS.


Notes About the Doujin and her Armour:

General Protection:

Low Priority Belt: 12? Treated Plate Steel/3? Titanium Composite
High Priority Belt: 20? Reinforced Plate Steel/ 3? DPU Band within Titanium Composite Panelling
Internal Bulkhead (Low Priority): 10? Treated Plate Steel
Internal Bulkhead (High Priority/Keel) 18? Reinforced Plate Steel
Internal Bulkhead (Command Centre) 24? Reinforced Titanium Composite
Turret Mount (General) 20? Reinforced Plate Steel/6? Titanium Composite
Turret Mount (Faceplate/Roofing) 36? Reinforced Titanium

Structural Pressure Release Systems, Combat Frame etc:

Because it was anticipated that considerable amounts of firepower would be aimed at the Doujin in order to disable her, significant improvements were made to the armour and the structural frame that supports it, as well as other measures.

The primary armour around core systems is secondary. All vital systems (basically stripped down to the command centre, engines (the water jet propulsion system is capable of internal steerage, rendering rudders off the vital list), main turrets and basic comm systems). These are well protected. Aside from the exterior armour they sit about thirty metres from any contact point, beyond three high priority armoured bulkheads as well as the exterior panelling and its own very tough level of protection. Penetration-based missiles can at best hope to get past the first layer of armour, destroying ?blast space?, but not going deep within the ship.

As she was designed in the Freethinkers, she was built with Freethinker naval ideas in mind as well as Doujin ones. She is built with an excess of ?blast space?, decks sitting between armoured bulkheads fitted with items of secondary importance. Pressure release systems, such as those found on modern day warships in order to prevent magazine explosions finishing off a ship, are used to prevent bulkling along the ships interior frame. The Doujin is built to be hit and have her exterior armour penetrated repeatedly, but remain with her core systems intact.

In order to maintain structural strength, a honey-comb like frame of steel is used within lateral titanium meshes that the decks sit on, which are in turn attached to the Titanium Composite ribs which are in turn welded to the keel. A triple bottom of low and high priority belts can stop the concentrated blast of a standard 21? torpedo, and the sheer length and structural strength of the entire composed network of metal supports prevents cavitation damage.

RAM (Radar Absorbant Material) is not so much to hide the presence of the vessel per se, as to deny accurate targetting of incoming radar-guided weapons. As the only realistic way any other set of surface vessels is to disable the Doujin in any meaningful capacity is to deploy long range missiles attacks against precise hull targets, then heavily shielding the radar profile prevents the accurate targetting by ranged radar and sensor systems of the Doujin?s primary warfare assets. Combined with the overtly powerful ECM suite, blanket CIWS and missile protection and sophesticated network of decoys, then the Doujin can safely remain unworried by ranged missile strikes.
25-03-2004, 07:43
The Following Message was sent from the Colonial Outpost in Doujin, Colonial Outpost Doujin:

"Did ya forget us here, eh? Heh, no problem, we'll wait to see what our Allies can create to make us drool, or not. Just kiddin, anythin created by an Ally is obviously something to wonder over and figure out just HOW they did it, and seeing this is a Super Battleship, well, lets just say I suppose we might not have any Sea-Based vessels to outmatch such for a VERY long time, if we ever get the ability to build sea-faring vessels at these outposts!"
Moontian
25-03-2004, 07:50
That's an interesting idea, but your ship is going to be even heavier than it was before, not that it should matter all that much, as it was already over a million tons.

Looks like you aren't going to be producing many of these. The resources needed to produce one of them would be huge. Then there's maintenance and repairs... Almost all countries wouldn't be able to afford it, even wth a frightening economy.
Doujin
25-03-2004, 07:53
One. Only one.
Doujin
25-03-2004, 08:01
Last small itsy bitsy bump before bedtime. More info will be filled in tomorrow.
Doujin
25-03-2004, 17:11
^bmp
Swordmasters of Ginaz
25-03-2004, 17:43
Hey Doujin, ya have enough money for this?
Doujin
25-03-2004, 18:08
689,686,680,405$ military budget, plus money from storefront sales.
Doujin
25-03-2004, 18:48
bump
Doujin
25-03-2004, 19:14
^
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Fluffywuffy
25-03-2004, 19:15
"The Empire is intriged in such a vessel, and would like, when the ship is available, to purchase two hulls of it for research purposes, and comparison of armor to our own BB-X4 design."

-High Admiral Joel Clark
Doujin
25-03-2004, 22:57
^^^^
25-03-2004, 23:27
BUMP
25-03-2004, 23:28
BUMP
The Zoogie People
25-03-2004, 23:32
Zoogiedom is extremely interested in the Doujin-class and has reviewed the current available information with a great deal of satisfaction. Doujin has truly created a 'super dreadnought' and we congratulate them on their accomplishment.

Good luck!
Vexia
25-03-2004, 23:51
Such awesome naval power would be highly effective in single-handedly crushing any 3 nation's navies i can think of, witht he exception of Unum Veritas.
But even a Super-Dreadnought is vulnerbale to Submarines(or equivalent) and Aircraft. Both of which are our specialties. Unless this ship is armed with depth-charge launchers and dozens fo vulcan cannons.
Doujin
25-03-2004, 23:58
it would take a lot of aircraft (considering the battlegroup itself will have over 500 aircraft), and anti-aircraft weapons/designated AA ships.. and then theres the tactics that could be used (which I won't go into detail here)
The Freethinkers
26-03-2004, 05:40
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Soviet Haaregrad
26-03-2004, 05:50
689,686,680,405$ military budget, plus money from storefront sales.

Storefront sales are little more then meaningless.

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=80256
Doujin
26-03-2004, 06:02
Never said that storefront sales gave me a huge budget. I only claim 5-10% of what I sell.
Unum Veritas
26-03-2004, 06:03
The Imperial Republic of Unum Veritas is, of course, interested in this new vessel. We are proud to consider our relations with Doujin to be friendly and are more than interested in furthering this relationship. Perhaps, in order to validate the Doujin's strengths and weaknesses, Doujin would be interested in participating in a naval excercise with Unum Veritas (using lasers and mock munitions of course). Either way, the Veritasean government shall continue to monitor this situation closely.

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High Chancellor Sparrow
The Imperial Republic of Unum Veritas
Member: NAIA (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1667209#1667209)
Member: Band of Brothers (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2432224#2432224)
Vice President and Naval Commander: Legion of Defence (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2503299#2503299)
Owner: Unum Veritas Naval Store (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=655745#655745)
Al Khals
26-03-2004, 06:06
(If storefront sales added to your nation's wealth they'd add to your economic ranking- Al Khals recently sold a frigate and some other crap, but I won't claim that my economy is better than Reasonable... storefronts don't add a penny to a budget, but they may explain part of whatever a pre-existing budget ammounts to.)
Doujin
26-03-2004, 06:21
Since Doujinshi Corporation is an international corporation, and is based on it's own island and not within Doujin itself.. although it does emply Doujin and have assets in Doujin, it's yearly earnings do not just include Doujin. (I have shipyards in other nations as well.. including The Freethinkers, and a couple others..) but either way, with the military budget alone I could afford it (considering this is a decade long/longer project and blah blah blah.. i can afford it..