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The Newport News Shipyards are now ready to export a new class of
Price sheet:
Carriers: Nimitz class $3billion with planes. 2.5 billion without planes
Battleships: Iowa class 1 billion
Cruisers: Kirov class $800 million
Ticonderoga class AEGIS cruiser $750 million
Destroyers: Arleigh Burke class AEGIS DDG $700 million
Udaloy II class $600 million
Kidd DDG class $550 million
Frigate: Oliver Hazard Perry class $300 million
Nuclear attack Subs: Seawolf class $1 billion
Los Angeles class $800 million
Diesel subs: Upholder class SSK = $300 million
Kilo class $250 million


CARRIERS


Nimitz class CVN (USA)

http://www.countryfolks.logonfrog.net/pics/Nimitz.jpg

length: 1092 feet
beam: at sea, 134 feet; at flight deck, 252 feet
draught: 39 feet
displacement: 102,000 tons
speed: 32-33 knots

Planes:
20 F-14D Tomcats
36 F/A-18 E/F Super Hornets
4 EA-6B Prowlers
4 E-2 Hawkeye AWACS
8 S-3 Vikings
4 SH-60 ASW choppers
4 HH-50H attack choppers

Weapons:
Missiles:
8 Harpoon missiles
SAM: 24 Sea Sparrows with a range of 15 miles
guns: 8 x 20mm CIWS phalanx

Decoys: Nixie torpedo decoy and chaff missile decoys

Radar: ITT SPS-48E air search
Mk-95 fire control
SPS-67V surface search

Price: $3 billion with planes; 2.5 without


BATTLESHIPS
Iowa II (refit) class BBG (US)

http://www.weapons.dk/warships/usa/iowa_1.jpg

length:915feet
beam:109 feet
draught: 30 feet
displacement: 61,500 tons
speed:33 knots
Crew: 1600

WEAPONS:
Missiles:
16 Harpoon Anti-ship missiles
48 TLAM cruise missiles
50 SM-2 MR SAMs with a 100 mile range
GUNS:
12 x 16 in guns
16 x 5in 38caliber AA guns
6 20mm CIWS

ARMOR:
12 inches along the side. This ship can survive multiple missile hits

Radar:
light Air search
Surface search

SONAR:
BQQ-5

Price: $1 billion


Cruisers:

Kirov CGN (Russia) Nuclear powered battlecruiser

http://www.modelwarships.com/features/current/kirov/slava02.jpg

lenght:827 feet
beam: 93.5 feet
draught: 30 feet
displacement: 19000tons
speed: 31 kts
range 14,000 at 30 kts

Weapons:
Missiles:
SSM:
20 SS-N-19 Shipwreck missiles. VERY fast missiles that can even beat an
AEGIS if enough are launched
8 SS-N-15 Starfish
SAM:
12 SA-N-6 Grumble (VLS)
16 SA-N-9 Gauntlet from 2 octuplet launchers
8 SA-N-4 Gecko
GUNs:
2 x 130mm twin barreled guns
4 CIWS
Torps:
10- 21in tubes
2 A/S mortars

Decoys: chaff, towed torp decoy

Radar: AA Top Pari 3D
surface: Top Plate 3D
fire control: Cross Sword

SONAR: Horse Jaw active search

HELOS: 3 KA-27-PL Helix ASW

Price: $800million


Ticonderoga (improved) CG-47i (USA)

http://www.maficstudios.com/gallery/stills/ticonderoga.jpg

lengh: 580 feet
beam: 58 feet
draught: 31 feet
speed 33-34 knots
range 6500 at 22 knots
displacement: 10560 tons

Missiles: VLS launch
16 Harpoon anti-ship missiles (4 quad launchers)
24 TLAM cruise missiles (can be fitted with nukes)
6 ASROC torpedoes
8 Mk-48 ADCAP torps
126 SM-2-ER SAM missiles range of 150 miles

GUNS
2 x 5 in guns
8 CIWS advanced Phalanx gunes

HELOS
2 SH-60G Seahawks

RADAR
SPY1A/ AEGIS air search
SPG-51D fire control
SPS55-surface radar

SONAR
BQQ 20

PRICE= $750 million



DESTROYERS

(US) Arleigh Burke flight III DDG (USA)

http://www50.dt.navy.mil/gallery/displacement/ddg51/51turn.jpg

length: 515 feet
beam: 73 feet
draught: 21 feet
speed: 35 kts
displacement: 9,605 tons

Weapons:
Missiles: VLS
8 Harpoon anti-ship missiles
16 TASM tomahawk anti-ship missile
24 TLAM cruise missile
96 SM-3 ER SAM with range of 150 miles
GUNs
1 7in gun
7 CIWS advanced phalanx guns
TORPS
8 ASROC
6 Mk-32 Anti-sub torpedoes

Decoys: for
TORPS:Nixie, active, passive
MISSILES: Chaff, FLARE

RADAR:
AA: AEGIS, SPY-1D-F,
fire control: 3 raytheon, SPG-62
search: SPS-67

SONAR:
SQQ-89

PRICE: $700 million


Udaloy II class destroyer (russia)

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ship/row/rus/udaloy-DNSC9701582.JPG

length: 537 feet
beam: 64 feet
draught: 24.5 feet
displacement: 8,900 tons
speed: 29 knots
range: 4,500 at 20knots

Weapons
missiles: SSM
12 SS-N-22 Sunburn (known as the AEGIS killer)
SAM: 32 SA-N-9 Gauntlet VLS
24 SA-N-11
guns:
twin 130mm AK 130
3 x 20mm gatling guns
torps :
8 21in tubes
12 Anti/Sub mortar with 2 RBU 600 rockets

Decoys: active/passive topedo decoys and chaff missile decoys

Radar:
air/search: Strut Pair II
surface search: 3 Palm Frond
Fire control: 2 cross Swords

SONAR: VDS active/passive search

Helos: 2 KA-27 Helix A (ASW)

Price: $600 million


Kidd class DDG (US)

http://www.clubi.ie/exalted/images/ships/kidd.JPG

length: 565 feet
beam: 55 feet
draught 20 feet (33 at bow sonar)
speed: 33 knots
displacement: 9574 tons
range: 8,500 at 18 knots

Weapons:
missiles: 12 SSM Harpoon anti-ship missiles (3 quad launcehers)
16 TLAM (or TASM)
SAM: 52 SM-2MR Block II (range 100 miles)
Mk 26 Mod3 and Mod4 launchers
A/S 16 ASROC payload of Mk46 torpedo
Guns: 2 5in guns, 4 20mm Vulcan Phalanx guns
Torpedoes: 6 Mk32 (2 triple tubes)
8 Mk 46.

Helicopters: 1 SH-60B (ASW)

Decoys: Nixie torpedo decoy, active/passive torpedo decoys, chaff launchers

Radar: Air search: SPS 48E. Raytheon SPS49(V)5
surface search: SPS-55
fire control: 2 x SPG-51D, SPG-60, SPQ-9A

Price: $550 million


FRIGATE

Oliver Hazard Perry class Anti-submarine frigate FFG (USA)

http://www.modelshipbuilding.com/images/700ffg7.jpg

Length: 453 feet
beam: 46 feet
draught:15 feet
displacement: 4,100 tons
Speed: 29 knots
range: 4,700 at 23 knots

Weapons
Missiles:
12 Harpoon anti-ship missiles
8 TLAM cruise missiles
32 SM-1 SAM missiles with a range of 55 miles
GUNS:
3in MK75 compact
3 20mm gatling CIWS
2 25mm MK38 CIWS
torps:
6 x 324mm Mk32 tubes
2 triple Mk46 mod 5 tubes
6 ASROC launched tubes

RADAR:
Air/search: Raytheon SQS-53B
Surface search: SPS-55 by Raytheon
Fire control: lockheed SPG-60

SONAR:
Raytheon SQS 53B hull mounted active/search attack
SQR-18A towed array

Helos: 2 SH-60F ASW and Search and rescue

PRICE $300 million


NUCLEAR ATTACK SUBS

Seawolf class SSN (USA)

http://www.skyrocket.de/usnavy/img/ssn-_21__seawolf__12.jpg

length: 353 feet
beam: 42 feet
draught: 36 feet
displacement: 9,137 tons
speed: 35+knots
crew: 133
range: unlimited

Weapons:
8 x 26.5in tubes
can carry a total of 50 of the following. You choose loadout
Gould Mk-48 ADCAP torpedos
TLAM cruise missile
Harpoon anti-ship missiles
TASM anti-ship cruise missiles

Radar : SQS-56 surface search

SONAR: BQQ-15D and towed array

PRICE: 1 billion


Los Angeles class (improved) SSN (USA) 688i Hull numbers 751 and up

http://www.providenceri.com/uss-providence/images/photo-sub.jpg

length:362feet
beam: 33 feet
draught: 32.3 feet
displacement: 6,927 tons
speed: 32 knots
range: unlimited

Weapons: missiles and torps
12 Tomahawk TLAM (land attack) or TASM (anti-ship) cruise missiles in VLS tubes
22 Mk-48 torpedoes or Harpoon missiles from 4x21in tubes. Some missiles or torpedoes can be removed for more tomahawks or mines

Radar:
surface search/naviagation/fire control, Sperry BPS 15A/16

SONAR: IBM BQQ5D/E and TB 23/29 towed array

Decoys: Emerson Electric active/passive Mk2 torpedo decoy



DIESEL SUBMARINES

Upholder class SSK (Britain)

http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/ssk_victoria/images/Victoria_6.jpg

length: 235.9 feet
beam: 25.2 feet
draught: 18.5 feet
displacement: 2,400 tons
speed:20 knots
Range: 8,000 nm at 8 kts snorkel; dived, 270 nm at 3 knots

Weapons: 6 x 21in tubes
18 weapons can be
torpedoes, Harpoon ASM, or TLAM

Radar: surface search BPS-15/16

SONAR: BQQ-5D/E

decoys: active/passive torpedo decoys


KILO class SSK (russia)

http://mt.sopris.net/mpc/military/v/sub.kilo.class.jpg

length:238
beam: 32.5 feet
draught: 21 feet
speed: 10 surfaced; 17 submurged
displacement: 2,325 tons
Range: 6000 at 7 kts surfaced; 400 at 3 kts dived

Weapons
Torps:
6 21in tubes for Russian torpedoes of Set 53-65 type
Missiles:
SS-N-27 cruise missile (can have a nuke warhead added separately)
SA-N-8 SAM missiles



Radar: Surface search: Snoop Tray MRP-25
SONAR: MGK-400

Price: $250 million
(more coming)

pretty

ho hum

Oh, ships, not to expensive either...damn it! To bad for my other sellers people...!
15 Kilo subs, they are cheap!
35 oliver hazard class ships(cheap, way cheap!)
5 Udaloy II class ships
15 Ticonderoga class ships also and last of all 25 Arleigh burke class ships.

BUMPED my head while im at it! Damn doors!

*tap tap*
Uhhh, WIH...
http://s6.invisionfree.com/International_Mall/index.php?showtopic=58

It comes to $46billion. Ships are setting sail for you in 3 hours.

The Armed Repulic of Gramal wishes to purchase 2 Iowa class battleships and 2 Kirov cruisers. Let me know when the transaction can take place.

The total is 3.6billion. The fleet will set sail for Gramal in 3 hours.

TAG

TAG
what?

Come 1 come all, you have heard it from my clients these are good values.

Damn it! I should really read all that stuff on the international mall! :oops: Sorry, order taken back, fortunatly the money hadnt been wired yet!
Anyway, ive not read it yet, but i know i wasnt supposed to do this...no ships from here then, back to Doujin...if hell accept me! :D

Gramal thanks you for your weapons. The transaction is being fed into your system now....

Satellite uplink confirmed....beginning monetary transaction......wait..........................................transaction complete......

Send the ships to the port town of Dixon.

Thank you,

Republican President of Gramal

I would like to purchase 4 Iowa class battleships. Total price is 4 billion dollars.
Also, I would like to arrange for a mutiyear delivery plan on 15 Arleigh Burke class destroyers. I would like to have them delivered, 3 per year, for 5 years, with payment being wired upon delivery. Acceptable?

I would like to purchase 4 Iowa class battleships. Total price is 4 billion dollars.
Also, I would like to arrange for a mutiyear delivery plan on 15 Arleigh Burke class destroyers. I would like to have them delivered, 3 per year, for 5 years, with payment being wired upon delivery. The price per year would be 2250 million. Acceptable?

The ships are warming up the turbine, (or reactors in the case of the Kirovs), they leave for you in 1 hour.

Sounds good Brandoniats. The ships will serve you well. The 2 Iowas class ships and 3 Burke class destroyers will set sail for you in 2 hours.

I will take 1 Nimitz with planes
2 Iowa class BB
2 Tico class
4 Burke
3 Perry
1 Seawolf
4 Kilo
total is $12.2 about 6-7% of my military budget and I have a CVBG.
I love your prices and will go here for all my military needs. Money wired on delivery.

order confirmed: The ships will set sail in an hour. Enjoy your fleet. Tell your friends about my prices.


"My prices are so low you will think I suffered brain damage."- Homer Simpson

I just added the 688i improved Los Angeles class sub

Homer, nice try mate.. but I'm calling on your godmodding. For one thing, someof the prices here are way to low.. youd be going in debt.. a Sea Wolf Class submarine costs a little under 4.4 billion dollars to construct.. (selling price to the US is 4.4 bil) and it takes years to build sihps.. you couldnt possibly have them all done, pre-ordered and ship them out in 3 hours.

I am setting the price at the same one NORTHROP GRUMMAN uses. Is he a godmodder. Thre price for the Kilo is right in line. My Nimitz is more expensive than NGs. Is he a godmodder? Call him on it first hipocrite.

I can have them ready to ship because I prebuild them. When you buy a car you don't wait a few months for it to be built. They build fore the expected demand. That is waht I do. My tech is all modern and not BS lies like your ships which aren't even practical.

OCC: Ahem, ahem. That is a Slava class missile cruiser you have there Homer. The Kirov is equipped with vertical launch cells and is a lot bigger.

You might want to search on google "Kirov" and see what you get.

The picture is a Slava, (i searched Kirov class into google for my pic and got it), but my description is Kirov from the Janes Warchip Recognition Guide. That is where all my specs and info come from.

The picture is a Slava, (i searched Kirov class into google for my pic and got it), but my description is Kirov from the Janes Warship Recognition Guide. That is where all my specs and info come from.

The picture is a Slava, (i searched Kirov class into google for my pic and got it), but my description is Kirov from the Janes Warship Recognition Guide. That is where all my specs and info come from.

The Republic of Demidia would like to purchase:

1 Nimitz Class Carrier (Fighters) - 3 000 000 000
2 Iowa Class Battleships - 2 000 000 000
1 Seawolf Class Nuclear Attack Submarine - 1 000 000 000
5 Kilo Class Diesel Submarines - 1 250 000 000

This order is totalling $7 250 000 000 and is 60% of our military budget for 2004.

We appreciate your time.

Trimaran hulled ships are practical, if you are refering to the Doujin Class, that is none of your business :)

And, if you would kindly actually look around for the stuff you are selling instead of copying.. you would know the actual price. I personally read the invoice for procurement of 4 Sea Wolf class submarines issued by Congress, and the price per sub was 4.4 billion.

(Note: Due to conflicting reports, I lower the price of the Seawolf class to 2.1 billion)

You sell the Nimitz Class for 3 billion with planes. The Nimitz class is sold to the US for 4.5 billion without planes.. interesting.

I didn't see a price for the Los Angeles Class, but the 688 cost 1.2-1.3 billion to construct.

That is just a little taste, Homer.

Now, I will explain how the Doujin Class is practical for ME. It is a billboard for my business (Doujinshi Corporation), it is a Flagship and is used for Power Projection.. and it is going to be a bitch to sink. And as for trimarans.. you want me to list all the advantages trimarans have over monohulls? Here I go..

Reduced hull resistance at higher speeds resulting in typically 18-20% less installed power for an escort sized vessel required to achieve 28 knots
Wide range of propulsion options
Greater fuel economy
Increased directional stability.
Improved stability and reduced motion.
Top weight growth margins are greater. There are significant additional stability benefits in the area of growth margins. This will allow equipment upgrades during the life of the ship to be easily accommodated .
Increased stealth - potential for reductions in radar cross section and infrared signatures. A reduction in heat signature could be gained be exhausting between the side hulls rather than conventional main structure funnelling.
The side hulls can be utilised for configuring a multiline towed array sonar.
Improved sea keeping performance at higher speeds, operational in higher sea states
Increased deck area (up to 40 per cent) on 1 and 2 decks for a given tonnage, offering more space for hangars, helicopter operation and weapons. Some of the greatest advantages for the trimaran comes from the improved effectiveness of the whole ship design afforded by this very large deck area.

Wow.. look at all those advantages! Now, fix your prices homer.

Demida, your order is confirmed. The ships will set sail in 3 hours.

OCC: My prices are those of NG. I am just keeping in line with competition. If I were to raise my prices, I wouldn't be able to sell ships. Tell your members of the Int. Mall to make their prices realistic first. Besides, the Seawolf and other stuff costs that much because this is the military with the 6,000 dollar toilet seat that you base the price on and don't forget the bribes and union employment in there.

Excuse you? I will ignore any purchase from your storefront, homer. The prices of most other storefronts are actually realistic.. where as yours are not.

1. you make to little money off these ships to produce profit
2. It cost billions to pre-build all these vessels you are claiming to, and with a population of around 87 million and a thriving economy you simply couldn't do it.
3. I'm not even going to argue about price of the submarine, not even worth my time as you already seem incompetent enough to understand this.
4. I am not apart of this "International Mall".

I have a 50% military budget that = $180billion a year. The US Navy budget is less then $125 billion a year. i could technically afford all the ships in the US Navy and more.

My prices are based on the competition. Any good capitalist does that. ARe you being communist? My pricing is made so I will sell my ships. I follow the prices set by NG who is a member of the Int Mall. I also have ships he doesn't have like the Russian ships and I then use the stats of them and compare it to the stats of other ships to price them. I understand my prices are lower than in the US Navy, but the US Navy cost includes the 6,000 dollar toilet seat and 500 dollar hammer our Military has invented to cover for bribes.

If the rate of sales continues, I may have to back-order a few NS years

Sicily, you idiot if your military budget was 50% your economy would collapse.. so that right there is godmodding. You can't go over 15% without your economy collapsing.. so that puts you at less than 67 billion for a military budget (at 15%)

my US History text book says that we had 90% mil spending from 1941-1945. It is credited with saving the economy and ending the depression.

From 1950-1974 we had 50-60% military spending. Those were 25 years of economic growth with exception of 1958-1959 when we had recession.
When we stopped the spending, our economy collapsed and we got the "great peanut depression."
The Reagan years had 50-55% spending from 1981-1990. During those years we had great economic growth and ended the Carter peanut depression. 2 years after the decrease in spending, we had a recession.

THis proves that military spending is acutally the saviour of an economy.

As a test use the GDP calculator, I put in 25% yestderday and my national budget was 340 billion. With 50% military spending my national budget was $350 billion. I boosted my econ 3% with that. Now what does it do to the economy? I guess I OWNED you.

Thank you for the history debate. I see facts can definately beat the opinion on anything more than 15% hurting economies when military spending goes to contractors and their employees, not to mention stock holders, and salaries go right to the people and into the economy. If I have little spending, then I collapse.

Oh, and also.. I am backed up until 15-20 NS years before people get their ships from me.... that is how many orders I get.. and any shipbuilder knows that you cannot stock up million/billion dollar vessels (pre build them) before paying.. there isn't a signle company in the world that does it because it costs to much money.

That's bullshit :)

Homer Simpson1987 Gross Domestic Product

Population: 88,429,866
Civil Rights: Some
Economy: Thriving
GDP per Capita: $19,548
GDP: $1,728,627,020,568
National Budget: $449,788,172,753

Percentage of GDP Spent on Defense: 3.9%
Percentage of Budget Spent on Defense: 15%
Military Budget: $67,468,225,913

vs

Homer Simpson1987 Gross Domestic Product

Population: 87,715,646
Civil Rights: Some
Economy: Thriving
GDP per Capita: $20,496
GDP: $1,797,819,880,416
National Budget: $482,619,889,006

Percentage of GDP Spent on Defense: 1.34%
Percentage of Budget Spent on Defense: 5%
Military Budget: $24,130,994,450

Wow.. look at that difference :)

Why don't you compare 50% and to 25%? And who are you talk about my budget? YOu are a flaimbating troll.

Before calling my posts BS, why don't you look up your facts?

As for the pre-ordering, the auto industry does it and I am doing it for expected demand. Shipbuilding is my top industry. My mil budget is actually over 200billion. I can afford alot.

Homer Simpson1987 Gross Domestic Product

Population: 88,388,549
Civil Rights: Some
Economy: Thriving
GDP per Capita: $20,250
GDP: $1,789,868,117,250
National Budget: $476,654,832,167

Percentage of GDP Spent on Defense: 13.32%
Percentage of Budget Spent on Defense: 50%
Military Budget: $238,327,416,084

vs

Homer Simpson1987 Gross Domestic Product

Population: 88,212,350
Civil Rights: Some
Economy: Thriving
GDP per Capita: $20,335
GDP: $1,793,798,137,250
National Budget: $479,027,065,362

Percentage of GDP Spent on Defense: 6.68%
Percentage of Budget Spent on Defense: 25%
Military Budget: $119,756,766,341

And as far as the auto-industry goes.. they can pre-build because it doesn't cost much, and it is fast.. (You can't build a fucking military naval vessel on a production line..), but I am not gonna argue with you. If someone else wishes to point out your obvious flaws, thats fine.. until then I will ignore whatever purchases are made from you.

Fine, I don't buy space garbage. My ships are real unlike Doujin who godmodds capabilities. Funny when I just did it, my National Budget was higher by $3billion with 50% spending. Either way, these ships will eventually sell, so I do prebuild, The orders on popular items like Kilos, and Burkes flow in well.

God mod capabilities, huh? And funny, if you kept up on modern naval warfare you would know that Trimaran Hulled vessels are being introduced into the worlds Navies.

Yes, but only in patrol boats or small frigates. Even the new DD-21 Zumwalt class won't be like that. It will have a similar Superstructure, but not similar hull.

Your Doujin is a godmodd.

Yes, but only in patrol boats or small frigates. Even the new DD-21 Zumwalt class won't be like that. It will have a similar Superstructure, but not similar hull.

Your Doujin is a godmodd.

DD-X, and it is going to have a tumblehome form, for -stealth-. It significantly reduces the radar cross section, since the slope returns a much less defined radar image rather than a hard-angled form. They discontinued the Zumwalt back in 2001, Homer.

And my "Doujin" has been gone over by a MARITIME DESIGN teacher, someone who actually knows things about naval vessels, unlike you obviously.

Edit: Oh, and I guess you missed the part where even Clan Smoke Jaguar said it was techincally feasible. :)

As for the Zumwalt, check the Navy's website, either you are right or the Navy is too lazy to change their web site (either can be possible) As for the Doujin, if your professor says it works, then fine, but the dimensions don't seem to meet the displacement. I could be wrong.

But back on topic, my ships are feasible and not a godmodd. What about the history point on national economies and military budgets? Do you give up on that point?

5 Iowa class ships
5 Kirov's
20 Aegis cruisers
25 Burkes
15 O.H.P
8 Seawolves
5 Los angeles class subs
20 kilos
for...
58 billion

Confirmed little brother, knowing how psycho you are at home, i am not sure whether or not to do so, but I will.

The ships will be delivered in 1 NS year (tommorow)

Due to the fact that I don't give a damn anymore, and not going to waste my time to make sure what you babble on about is true (Although it might as well be, during both times the nation was at war.. you must have no army/navy/air force if you are spending this money on these ships in which you sell, at least that is what you are incinuating.)

Official Answer -> whatever

We were in the Cold War, and it ensured a strong economy. Ask an economics professor to explain the correlation of military spending and the strength of the economy. I have a small army, a good navy, and a AF with good strategies and a weapon no one else has bought the old F-4G Wild Weasel, even more valuable than a stealth bomber. I make a profit off my ships, so I do have a larger budget.

Besides, you ever hear of cheap union free immigrant labor?

One thing, you do realize that you only make 10-15% profit if that on naval vessels? And cheap union free immigrant labor is of lower quality ;) I guarantee you, your Iowa Class vs my Mackensen Class would be shot to hell -.-

Yes because I am a younger nation, I am limited in my selection of ships to sell. The Iowa is a WWII ship. That is not a fair match Doujin.

The immigrants are skilled, but they are lowly paid. This is a job they would kill for in their origin countrys. They work harder than union employees for cheap prices.

That is basically what the Mackensen is, is an Iowa class.. just with a couple modernizations..

Mine has upgrades in radar, Sonar, and missiles, plus it is lengthened for an extra turret.

My ship has good modifications that can be added in today's world.

I think the ultimate ship here is Kirov. In 1 on 1 it would kill an AEGIS. The shipwreck missiles are good in damage caused and speed. Even a CIWS fails because when it finally blows up the missile, it is so close it does damage even if shot

Great ships. I will take 4 more Kilos

Confirmed. Kilos are leaving in 5 hours.

"We use cheap immigrant labor and pass the savings on to you.

Just added the Kidd class DDG

I just added the Brittish Upholder class SSK

bump

bump and buy the greatest fleet in the world

cool ships