NationStates Jolt Archive


Condemnation of Israel

23-03-2004, 05:04
Today, in a bloodthirsty act of terrorism that violated international law, the Whittier Convention on the Prosecution of War and treatment of POW's, and the Universal Treaty on Human Rights, the infant state of Israel viciously and cold bloodedly assassinated the President of a foriegn govt. (Hamas).
Because of this, LowerEgypt has no choice but to impose an arms embargo on Israel. We could impose total economic sanctions and travel sanctions. With the use of our navy and air force, we have the power to turn such sanctions into an embargo that would cripple the Israeli state.
However, we do not believe the people of Israel were aware of, nor support, their governments policy of killing the leaders of groups and nations they just happen to have a personal hatred for.
The arms embargo will be backed by force however. We have no grudge against the jewish people. Our cause is against the despots running their government and it our intent to hamper their ability to wage war and threaten their neighbors as Al Anbar has dones so many times before them. We will not allow Israel to be another Al Anbar.
All ships or planes carrying weapons and other military hardware or even dual use items to Israeli ports will either submit to being boarded by LE troops and having their cargo confiscated or we will have no choice but to forcefully confiscate said cargo even if it means destroying the ship or aircraft in question.
Further, to ensure that LE and citizens of other nations in Israel are not targeted for retaliation, we temporarily halting the withdrawal of LE forces from Israel.
West Pacific
23-03-2004, 05:08
Is this about the murder of a leader of Hamas in RL or on NS? Is their a true NS nation named Israel and one named Hamas? I could not tell by the way you first post was wirtten, I just thought that if this happened in NS it came quite close to the incident in RL.
Jewpiter
23-03-2004, 05:12
Lower Egypt: As a member of the region of Eretz Yisrael, I do not feel the need to justify our actions to you. As to your embargo, I simply say:

Try it.

Ambassador Zerkin, Jewpiter.
Kelonian States
23-03-2004, 05:15
Well for one thing Hamas is a terrorist organization and *not* a 'foreign govt.' - unless of course this is an RP where Hamas has decided to be sensible...
Western Asia
23-03-2004, 05:16
A passerby on the street in WA is heard to say "he had it coming."
West Pacific
23-03-2004, 05:20
West Pacific completely supports the attacks by Israel on the leader of an obvious terrorist nation, whose sole purpose is to see the destruction of the Israeli state.
23-03-2004, 05:42
Is this about the murder of a leader of Hamas in RL or on NS? Is their a true NS nation named Israel and one named Hamas? I could not tell by the way you first post was wirtten, I just thought that if this happened in NS it came quite close to the incident in RL.
Somebody on NS rpd the assasination of the leader of Hamas before it happened in RL.
Very strange coincidence.
23-03-2004, 05:44
Lower Egypt: As a member of the region of Eretz Yisrael, I do not feel the need to justify our actions to you. As to your embargo, I simply say:

Try it.

Ambassador Zerkin, Jewpiter.
You are responsible to the world community for all of your actions and you will be held to account for all international laws you violate.
The LowerEgyptian 2nd fleet has moved in off the coast of Israel and is now intercepting all arms carrying ships. (Except those of legitimate navies).
23-03-2004, 05:46
Well for one thing Hamas is a terrorist organization and *not* a 'foreign govt.' - unless of course this is an RP where Hamas has decided to be sensible...
A civilized nation does not go around killing people just because they consider them to be terrorist. Especially since the Israeli attacks killed 3,450 innocent civilians.
23-03-2004, 05:47
Lower Egypt: As a member of the region of Eretz Yisrael, I do not feel the need to justify our actions to you. As to your embargo, I simply say:

Try it.

Ambassador Zerkin, Jewpiter.
All air travel by the leadership of Israel is now banned. All citizens of Israel are free to come and go as they please but those in their govt. are not.
23-03-2004, 06:00
We shp weapons to Israel or any other nation of our choosing. The hostile seizure of any of our ships by any nation will be considered an act of war.
Eshli
23-03-2004, 06:05
First, Hamas is NOT a "Foreign Government" it is a Terrorist Organization with its sole aim the destruction of the Jewish Homeland. As such, the head of said organization is/was a legitimate military target and can be eliminated as such. Which, obviously, he was. And more importantly is "allowed" in the rules of war under the (1928?) Geneva conference?
When you use your supposedly "peaceful" religion that ironically has a prayer that says "Blessed is Allah, slayer of the Jews and the Infidels" as a backdrop for people to strap explosives to themselves, yell "Allah Akbar!" and blow themselves and innocent men, women and children whose only "fault" was bieng Jewish into tiny bits. As a human bieng i am disgusted with you, you Whiny Egyptian Whelp, complainig that the Israelis actually DEFENDED themselves! and more importantly, as an ISRAELI i am outraged and FURIOUS at such a charge. Also, you claim not to be anti-semetic, but by calling the Israeli govrnment who is merely waging a war of self-defense against Terror organizations despots you merely reveal the fact that u are, in fact, an anti-semite. Furthermore, this proposed embargo of Israeli shipping of war materiael is improbable, infeasable and inadviseable because a.most of the world will turn its back on the issue altogether, b.others will support Israel(Like America) and c. Israel will not stand idly by like a bunch of cowering Ghetto Jews and let their shipping be confiscated and their shios boarded. Not to mention, most "war materiael" is either amde by the US and shipped in US boats and planes, or there is the fact the The Soverign State of Israel produces much iof her weaponry inside her own borders(ever heard of IMI?). Also, its kind of ironic dont you think, that 4 times 5 arab nations with individual populations well-over 13 thousand people all attacked the tiny nation of Israel, with a population of no more then 5 thousand people, swearing to drive the Jews into the sea, and four times they were repulsed? Stop compaling that the Israelis actually defend themselves like the soverign nation that they are. You arab punks need to learn that co-existance is not you blowing up the busses and us Israelis cleaning up the mess. The sooner you realize that and you quit Kvetching, and depose Arafat and you actually WORK (*gasp*) for what you want, like we did, you sooner you will get what you want. Until then, you will continue to die for Allah, and no good will come of it. We are hwere to stay.Get used to it.


Am Yirael Chai!
(The People Israel Live!)
Ambassador Dan Sanders
Holy Empire of Eshli
:x :x :x :evil: :x
Eshli
23-03-2004, 06:16
Since this also happened in NS (very wierd indeed...) I will RP this. It is in the Interests of the Holy Empire of Eshli and All the Free World, to help defend those sovereign nations in their fight against Terrorism. Furthermore, As Allies with the Nation of Israel, the Holy Empirwe of Eshli will increase all shipments to Israel(military and otherwise) any attempt by anyone to board ant Eshli ship will be viewed as an act of war, and will be treated as such. Furthermore, the Eshliean 8th fleet and the 12 Eshliean Royal Marine Expeditionary Force will be deployed to Israeli Shores and her territorial waters any attempts at blockade will also be viewed as an act of war, and will be shot out of the water.


Royal Ambassador and General Dan Sanders
General, Commanding
12 Eshli Army
His Majestys Armed Forces
Holy Empire of Eshli
Hamptonshire
23-03-2004, 06:22
OCC:It happened in NS because that most doubious of nations, Homer Simpson1987, RPed it after seeing it in the news. So that's not wierd at all, just a little loony.

IC:
We see neither side in this conflict as completely innocent. Unfortunately, both sides have blood on their collective hands.
23-03-2004, 06:26
OCC: Look what RPing it did, it adds some fun. I am sure if the 9-11 attacks occured when this place existed it would be RPed. CUrrent events have to be because we are closely tied to the real world in many ways.

IC: We strongly urge Lower Egypt to reconsider her position.
23-03-2004, 06:37
First of all, LowerEgypt still retains a sizeable force (370,000 infantry, 12,000 MBT's etc.) inside the former Loweregyptian province of Israel.
There are no arab terrorists in Israel cause the LE armed forces obliterated them long ago.
As said before, this is not about the right of a nation to defend itself against terror. This is about coldblooded genocide by the evil baby killing regime of madman Ariel Sharon.
Sharon has already stated it is his goal to eliminate any who are not jewish.
That expeditionary force, cause it is intended as help for a madman, will not be allowed to land in Israel.
23-03-2004, 06:42
OCC: If you were controling Israel until recently, Sharon was never in power. But, if Sharon was in power, then the terrorists were there. I just want to know which one we are going to follow.
Western Asia
23-03-2004, 06:43
OOC: balancing the worth of acting in WA's capacity of Israel and destroying loweregypt with the fact that I'm too damn tired to deal with him.
23-03-2004, 06:50
OCC: If you were controling Israel until recently, Sharon was never in power. But, if Sharon was in power, then the terrorists were there. I just want to know which one we are going to follow.
Sharon is a madman who has illegally seized dictatorial power in Israel against the wishes of the peaceloving people of Isreal.
As said before, all terrorists were destroyed in the original annexation of Israel, Lebanon and Jordan by LowerEgypt.
We demand that he step down so that the peaceloving people of Israel, both jewish and arab can directly elect their leader. Preferably, Benyamin Netanyahu.
23-03-2004, 06:52
Israel is occupied by some other nation that hasn't set up a new gov yet. Sharon is not in power.
23-03-2004, 06:52
OCC: If you were controling Israel until recently, Sharon was never in power. But, if Sharon was in power, then the terrorists were there. I just want to know which one we are going to follow.
OCC: In the rp, Sharon is genocidal madman, intent on wiping out nonjews and starting a religious war against any one who isn't jewish and who has seized power illegally in light of our agreement for the establishment of a new jewish state in NS.
All LE is demanding is a democratic election and the removal of the war monger Sharon.
23-03-2004, 06:56
Israel is occupied by some other nation that hasn't set up a new gov yet. Sharon is not in power.
But our intell network has found that it was a powerful individual in the provisional govt. that funded, planned, and ordered the strike.
23-03-2004, 06:57
However, we are prepared to offer you an exchange.
The criminal Yasser Arafat for the criminal Ariel Sharon.
23-03-2004, 06:58
The strike came from my government, not Israel. Israel was in no position to carry it out. they asked us to do it and We can't say no to our Jewish brothers.
Great Norseland
23-03-2004, 07:00
A message from the King of The Empire of Great Norseland:

"This government fully supports the effective execution of the war on terror by the great state of Israel. Great Norseland's main goal in this world is to destroy the evil criminals who threaten our way of life. The evil filthy criminal murderers will be destroyed. Great Norseland will not stand by and allow terrorist organizations to undermine the civilized world. Due to the threats toward a nation of like morality, the Empire of Great Norseland has unleashed its mighty armada of military precision with carrier battlegroups and massive air squadrons being dispatched to the region at this time. Any infringement on our right to conduct military operations in international waters or air space will be dealt with swiftly and with massive destructive force. I call on all great nations of moral goodness to join with the warriors of Great Norseland to destroy the evil and vile terrorist demons which haunt the well being of our great world. The Empire of Great Norseland will use the full extent of its vast military arsenal to destroy the enemy. That is all!"
23-03-2004, 07:00
The strike came from my government, not Israel. Israel was in no position to carry it out. they asked us to do it and We can't say no to our Jewish brothers.
We can end this standoff if you simply agree to our offer.
Give us Sharon for so we can put him on trial for genocide, violating the whittier conventions, and the law of human rights.
In return we will give you Yasser Arafat, a known terrorist who we are holding in a national prison. Once you have him, you may do what ever you want to him.
23-03-2004, 07:01
A message from the King of The Empire of Great Norseland:

"This government fully supports the effective execution of the war on terror by the great state of Israel. Great Norseland's main goal in this world is to destroy the evil criminals who threaten our way of life. The evil filthy criminal murderers will be destroyed. Great Norseland will not stand by and allow terrorist organizations to undermine the civilized world. Due to the threats toward a nation of like morality, the Empire of Great Norseland has unleashed its mighty armada of military precision with carrier battlegroups and massive air squadrons being dispatched to the region at this time. Any infringement on our right to conduct military operations in international waters or air space will be dealt with swiftly and with massive destructive force. I call on all great nations of moral goodness to join with the warriors of Great Norseland to destroy the evil and vile terrorist demons which haunt the well being of our great world. The Empire of Great Norseland will use the full extent of its vast military arsenal to destroy the enemy. That is all!"
OOC: You were just created. You can't have a big military.
23-03-2004, 07:09
We can end this dispute by agreeing to disagree. I will not give up Sharon and we don't need Arafat. We got who we wanted. Lets just end it, shake hands and continue in separate ways
23-03-2004, 07:10
We can end this dispute by agreeing to disagree. I will not give up Sharon and we don't need Arafat. We got who we wanted. Lets just end it, shake hands and continue in separate ways
How is it that those who claim to be fighting terrorism, are giving aid and refuge to a terrorist?
23-03-2004, 07:13
OCC: Sharon is not a terrorists, he is a man who has called off raids because he wanted to avoid civilian deaths.
23-03-2004, 07:16
OCC: Sharon is not a terrorists, he is a man who has called off raids because he wanted to avoid civilian deaths.That is why he ordered a strike, knowing it would kill over 3,000 innocent women and children?
23-03-2004, 07:17
OCC: Sharon is not a terrorists, he is a man who has called off raids because he wanted to avoid civilian deaths.That is why he ordered a strike, knowing it would kill over 3,000 innocent women and children?
23-03-2004, 07:17
what strike did that and where is your number from?

Besides, I am not Israel, I can't give him up
23-03-2004, 07:20
what strike did that and where is your number from?

Besides, I am not Israel, I can't give him up
You speak a truth. You can't give him up. But there is something we can do about it.

His strike in the small city of Bethlehem where he not only killed Hamas leader, but also destroyed the manger where jesus was born. And several local schools.
23-03-2004, 07:23
The strike was in Gaza. No civilians killed. We used precision munitions with limited explosives to only kill the target and his bodyguards
23-03-2004, 07:24
then explain the 3,000 deaths of innocents and Sharon's racist rhetoric praising the death of all arabs.
23-03-2004, 07:25
OCC: give me a link.

IC: It is not my job to explain it. I can't do anything about him
23-03-2004, 07:26
OCC: give me a link.

IC: It is not my job to explain it. I can't do anything about him
Never mind, we are taking decisive action as we speak.
23-03-2004, 07:29
I must warn you that I have 2 carrier groups in the area. They have their planes up to protect Sharon. There are many other nations in the area who have occupying forces and like Sharon. Don't start a World war. Please.
23-03-2004, 07:31
If any other nation had a terrorist organization killing innocent civilians and there was a guy who started all that and was continually involved in terrorist strikes, he would be killed too. Israel has a right to defend itself. And if you don't like it, then too bad.
23-03-2004, 07:31
If Sharon is harmed, I will have to honor my treatys and go to war. I don't want to. I also warn that there are more pro-Sharon forces than anti-Sharon forces in the region. Don't pull your nation into a war. God knows I don't want to.
23-03-2004, 07:36
If Sharon is harmed, I will have to honor my treatys and go to war. I don't want to. I also warn that there are more pro-Sharon forces than anti-Sharon forces in the region. Don't pull your nation into a war. God knows I don't want to.
the issue is settled. Sharon has been taken into custody but he has not been harmed.
Brennenburg
23-03-2004, 07:37
Sharon should not be harmed beyond being forcibly removed, or Brennenburg will be forced to embargo all Lower Egyptian goods coming into the country.
23-03-2004, 07:42
Sharon should not be harmed beyond being forcibly removed, or Brennenburg will be forced to embargo all Lower Egyptian goods coming into the country.
He has not been harmed. Only taken into custody. He was asleep when he was arrested so he would not cause harm to himself or others.
The Blackguard
23-03-2004, 11:49
OOC:

Well that was a fine RPing of Sharons' capture.. He was plucked from his nation and delivered to Lower Egyupt by some unknown mystical force.

Smells bad, doesn't it?
ElephantandCastle
23-03-2004, 12:17
Well, as a new entrant on the political scene, obviously the fledgling nation of ElephantandCastle are in the best position to objectively arbitrate between the various factions. And, so, after reading the background and hearing all the arguments, we decree that Hamas had it coming, and LowerEgypt better stop acting the aggressor PDQ. Of course, our judgement isn't binding, but you'll follow it if you know what's good for you....
Kikoskriat
23-03-2004, 12:28
Loweregypt, I'd cease what you were doing if I were you.

You are acting on, at best, unreliable evidence and are taking actions that will provoke a war you cannot win. Even with such a large nation, there are many larger nations who will come and destroy you if they feel like it.

((And, may I ask, how on EARTH did you 'pluck' Sharon out of that nation? With the hand of god? Did you teleport him onto the Enterprise? Did you travel back through time and take him to your antion before he could talk? Please be specific.))
Conagra
23-03-2004, 12:35
Also, you claim not to be anti-semetic, but by calling the Israeli govrnment who is merely waging a war of self-defense against Terror organizations despots you merely reveal the fact that u are, in fact, an anti-semite.

Blah blah blah. No offense, but I'm as sick of this "anti-semite" tag as I am of the "racist" tag. Personally, I wish someone would nuke both sides so we can stop seeing all this crap on the news every day. BOTH SIDES are full of zealots and bigots, and as such they both deserve a good ass-whooping.
Kikoskriat
23-03-2004, 12:38
I don't have any nukes... :cry:

On a side note, I am willing to purchase any if you have any for sale that can be launched from a nuclear submarine.
Unified Sith
23-03-2004, 12:44
unified sith is angered at the kidnapping of people from foreign nations. Unified sith requests that sharon br returned to his nation to help smooth diplomatic tensions or if Egypt does not find this a suitable choice of action unified sith is willing to take sharon as a temporary citezin. i await your reply.
Jewpiter
23-03-2004, 15:35
First of all, LowerEgypt still retains a sizeable force (370,000 infantry, 12,000 MBT's etc.) inside the former Loweregyptian province of Israel.
There are no arab terrorists in Israel cause the LE armed forces obliterated them long ago.
As said before, this is not about the right of a nation to defend itself against terror. This is about coldblooded genocide by the evil baby killing regime of madman Ariel Sharon.
Sharon has already stated it is his goal to eliminate any who are not jewish.
That expeditionary force, cause it is intended as help for a madman, will not be allowed to land in Israel.

We were unaware that any military other than our own was operating on our soil.

While we do not personally like having diplomatic functions with Ariel Sharon (he eats too much), he was in fact legitimately elected by the Israeli people. We call on Lower Egypt to cease and desist all military activities post haste. The blockade you have begun is an act of war. This is your final warning.
Euroslavia
23-03-2004, 15:43
OOC:

Well that was a fine RPing of Sharons' capture.. He was plucked from his nation and delivered to Lower Egypt by some unknown mystical force.

Smells bad, doesn't it?


ugh...what a terrible RP. Don't you think Sharon would have guards? Since this is such a terrible RP, it is ignored...that is, until it can be RP'ed better.
23-03-2004, 16:07
We at Bulova York hereby do not condem Isreal for the attack on a know terrorist in the region.

We support her choice as a country, with the right to defend herself by any and all means.

May she stand as a single democracy is a sea of dictators and evil clerics.


We Totally Stand With Isreal

David York
President of Bulova York
23-03-2004, 16:08
OCC: It seems like a terrible RP because it was moved to another thread. THAT one worked. He just posted it here to inform people of the situation on the other thread. He wasn't just snatched. There was a gunfight and a plane shot down. Sharon was killed during this. I and Lower Egypt RPed it and it was fun.