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Space Discussion Weekly!

Underwater Asylum
21-03-2004, 08:35
This week, Dyson Spheres. The three most well known types.

On this weeks SDW, we shall discuss the possibility of a Dyson Sphere. If you don't know what a Dyson Sphere is, I will explain. A Dyson Sphere is a massive object or several billion objects that are man made, and orbit the sun to use the energy from it at one hundred percent effiecency. These are very massive objects, or can consist of many small objects. There are three types of Dyson Spheres...

Dyson Sphere Type I: Several billion objects orbiting the sun to effeciently use the energy. They can be any thing from space-station to solar collectors and such. This is the most commonly known Dyson Sphere Type, and is just usually refered to as a Dyson Sphere. Building something like this, would require the amount of materials equivlent to the mass of the planet Jupiter. From a vertical view in space, it would look like a giant egg yolk.

Dyson Sphere Type II: The second most popular design, this Sphere is literally, a giant sphere covering the Sun/Star. More materials would be required to make a Type II than a Type I. But if something like this was created, it would be more massive than any known planet in existance. If its radius was one Astronamical Unit, it would sixty-five million times larger in total surface area than the planet Earth. This means it could support a large population of humans/aliens/whatever. This one appeared in an episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation before, and does not appear very often besides that. There are many problems involved with a Type II. Such as gravity*, resources, and the superhot rays from the sun.

*=Even if the Type II Sphere rotated on its axis, gravity would get weaker until it reached Zero-Gs in the poles. This prooves as an emminse problem.

Dyson Sphere Type III: Is a ringed shaped object that orbits the sun. Not only does its rotation provide gravity, but its design is very small. In fact, it uses less materials than the other types of Dyson Spheres. But it does not gather as much energy as the others as a result.

We do not know if any Dyson Spheres exist, or if they are even possible to construct. But we do know that if we saw one, it would be a dimly lit star giving off immense energy signatures.

The Disadvantages:

Before I launch into the debate of whether or not a Dyson sphere is viable, I would like to make a point about their possible side-effects.

For trillions of years, suns have been pumping out a fairly constant amount of energy. Much of this energy would shoot out into space and dissapate into the cold of space. What little energy hit a planet would be absorbed by the flora and fauna of the planet and eventually vented back into the atmosphere (body-heat, etc). This is balance that has by and large maintained itself. There have been ice ages, and desert ages, and things have returned to their equilibrium point. The energy that "dissapears" into space would not be waste. Stars heat space, and keep it a hell of a lot warmer than it would normally be. If we were to start covering moons and planets in solar panels, or if we were to harvest the energy off the star itself, the effects on that solar system and perhaps it's surround systems would be catastrophic. With every bit of heat energy collected and stored, we deprive the cycle of nature from that energy. If we were to re-release the heat later on (heating our house, cooking in an oven. etc), then the cycle would complete. If we were to transport the energy elsewhere (ie we put solar panels on the moon and ship batteries to Earth), then one place would get too cold, and one place would get too warm.

If we were to use a Dyson sphere, we would be harvesting the energy before it even hit a planet, and now we would have planets getting colder without any counter balance (ie if we start using energy from a dyson sphere to power spaceships or even just the sphere itself).

Dyson Sphere Type I: Like all types of the sphere, it would have a serious issue trying to find an orbit height that would not result in the sphere melting. Another problem would be the size. Any two objects will have a natural gravitation towards each other. Two people standing a metre apart will feel about 0.0000005 Newtons of forces towards each other, that's about 0.005 grams of pressure. Two objects, one being the sun and the other one having the same mass as Jupiter, would feel such an enormous pull that the sphere would have to rotate around the Sun at incredibly huge speeds. I have a physics class tomorrow, and I will return with some solid calculations to support this next time I post.

Dyson Sphere Type II: This type of sphere would completely blot out the sun, destroying all life in the surrounding solar system. Any life would be soley situated on the sphere itself. This type would be the closest to planet building we'd ever get. Our Dyson sphere would merely be a manufactured crust around the core, or Sun. Solar power on this type of sphere might be less practical than using the heat radiating outwards to turn turbines. Melting issues would be incredibly serious here too, since you would require a relatively close proximity to the sun. To compensate, you would need to create this sort of sphere incredibly thick, and expect much of the inner "crust" to melt as it shields from the heat. We would end up with layers of heat just like Earth's crust. The only gravity issue would be that there might be too much. Such a huge structure would contain so much mass that the gravity would crush any living organism. Let's not forget we would not be able to move on Jupiter's surface, and even Jupiter's size pales compared to the sun.

Dyson Sphere Type III: Same as before, melting and extreme gravity would plague this sort of structure. This structrure would be the least detrimental to the surrounding planets, save for the huge shadows it'll cast. Once again, the sun will have more than enough mass to cause too much gravity. (Remember that mass is the important decider of gravity, centripital force only fakes it).

On another note, any miscalculation on the exact size, speed and orbit height of the dyson sphere has a chance of creating a massive intergalactic disaster.
Underwater Asylum
21-03-2004, 08:40
Subject 2: The Thorian Grekka Targ Hive system.

“Ahhh, life in the good ole' hive. They were happy times as I remember it."-Thyorian Grekka Targ Commander Caste Leader, (He was forced to say that).

The Thyorian Grekka what hive?

Before Grekka Targs split up into two different nationalities, there was one big hive for each planet. A hive is of course a collection of Grekka Targs in which there are millions, of billions, of trillions of identical Targs in each caste. Each of which knows their purpose, orders, and leaders immediately when they are born. Their goals are simple. Goal number one: Protect the queen. Goal number two: Protect the hive. And goal number three: Kill all foreigners. This is the way of the hive, or Se'Vi as the Targs call it in the native language of Se'Ra'Shey'Beep. Which in translation means Thyorian Grekka Targ language of strange beeps.

The Hive Structure.

Hives are the size of planets. Why? Because the queen likes to lay eggs, that's why. Hives have numerous huge hive buildings constructed on the surface and underground. Here are the known structures at the time.
Royal Chamber: Usually placed on the most magnetic field on the planet (So that would be the poles). This holds the queen so she may lay eggs and never have to move her whole life. The building's interior is a dome, two miles high and wide. Millions of soldiers inhabit and guard the Royal Chamber.
Storage Chambers: They hold food at cool temperatures so it may be eaten later. Can be five miles in diameter on farming hives.
Hatchery: Holds eggs until they hatch at high temperatures. Placed all over the hive to ensure hive has no weak spots in military.
Waste Chambers: Hold wastes such as dirt and drop them through a opening membrane when full to the center of the planet. Usually at the center of the planet the waste is burned to a crisp by molten lava or crushed by pressure.
Farm Chambers: The biggest of all structures. An almost miraculous feet of ten miles in diameter inside the main chamber with no pillars. Held together by mucus. Prey insects or fungi are held here and bred to be eaten later.
Sleeping Chamber: The most numerous of all, this holds sleeping Targs and puts them in suspended animation for a month in each honey-comb like sleeping chamber or "Bed". If there are too may Targs, most are put to sleep and await later orders here.

Castes.

First off, there are several castes, or collections. First there is the Royal. Which consists the only fertile Targs. There is huge queens (With not to mention huge abdomens) which lay eggs and command the hive by sending out smell signals (They do not talk, instead they have over a million known smell "orders"). Then there are the drones, which are male. They are the only males besides scouts and they are the only fertile males. They mate with the queen and die. Then lastly of the royal caste, there is the Lesser-Queen. Which mate with the males and then set off to set a new colony on another planet. Lesser-Queens create "space" pods to travel in space. Which in English means they create a cocoon and launch them selves with plasma through a natural plasma duct in their abdomen.
The worker caste is the most numerous. Workers are not at all sentient and have the IQ of an ant. They spend all their lives working at a specific task. All look like the Scout Grekka Targ that appears on space stations. Except they are four legged and have no hands, instead, using their antennae as hands. The most common is the builder. Which build special structures to suit the hive's needs. Then there is the forager. Which forages and hunts for food in their large numbers. Lastly there is the nurse. Which have especially delicate fore arms that enable them to pick up eggs and regulate their temperature. Temperature effects Caste, gender, and other attributes.

Soldier Caste, the very name strikes fear into the hearts of many. The common soldier looks like a short version of your humans' praying mantis. Except the Common Grekka Soldier is about the size of you. And at top of it's "scythes", are two natural plasma chambers that fire laser blasts. Their armour is incredible; most laser blasts deflect off the light exo-skeleton. Their eyesight is colour, thermal, magnetic, and they also have echolocation. The Flying Soldier is a hybrid of this, it has wings. And the command version, the only sentient one, commands numerous units on the battlefield by smell organs. It looks very much like the Flying Soldier except it is bright red, not dark blue. The last is the scout soldier, the one we see on space stations. They are very intelligent and see in magnetic, heat, colour, and ultra-violet vision. Not to mention they can hear two times better then your humans' bat, elephant, and dog combined. They normally scout ahead for food or enemies, hence the wings and special organs. They are also sentient. A long time ago, they left when the hives' no longer found it necessary to scout around their planets. So they were set free and now roam space as traders, traffic controllers, spies, and com sensor specialists.

The Hive's relations...

When a Queen starts a small "semi-hive" on a planet, they immediately grow their abdomen to a large size a start laying eggs. Usually they are sent an escort along with them to start a new hive. The new escort creates a new identification marking. Meaning they grow different stripes, markings, or such. When an army is sufficient, they go attacking the planet's natural inhabitants till they are wiped out. Then the planet is naturally terraformed in less then a hundred years by growing new flora and raising new fauna on it. Mission Accomplished. Hives never communicate with each other, although if an unfortunate queen happens to end up on a hive infested planet, she is immediately killed.

End Notes...

Hives are fascinating, deadly, and feared. Scientists who have died trying to find out more have been revered throughout Turraken, Grey, and Salt Hog societies. But there is still much to know. Who knows? Maybe one day we will be able to make peace with the insect savages? (Phst, yeah right). Or maybe be eaten alive!
Underwater Asylum
21-03-2004, 08:43
Subject 3: The great Migration and infusion of technology into early Memau Lifestyle.

The Great Migration

After the formation of the Memaui Empire and its first two victories defeating the Nemauil and Menauik nations, a new threat arose; the Confederation of United Cronasian Nations. The vast resources of Cronasia were now cut off from the Empire. If it was to survive it would need a new source of resources. And since the Memau are a non-seafaring race there boats could barely cross from Cronasia to Memanuk. Then the Mejali Islands were discovered by the Second Infantry Division of the Memaui Army. The Mejali Islands are the only Islands on all of Memauan, and are so close together a Kasvagorian could walk from one to the next in places. An expeditionary force was sent along these islands to discover any military value of them. Little did they know that they would discover the single largest depository of resources on Memauan, they would discover the Island of Serna. This discovery led to the quick destruction of the Confederation. Almost 50% of the population of the Empire migrated to the Island, hoping to conserve food resources. But soon the expulsion of the Empire from Serna, brought about by natives that overwhelmed the Imperial forces by sheer numbers, destroyed the Empire from the inside out by splitting it into smaller factions ruled by ruthless warlords. And the emigration of the civilians from the front lines and behind caused the armies to run out of food because there was no one to grow it.(By MoS)

The Infusion of Technology into Early Memau Lifestyle


When the first Memau arrived on Memauan, they built the first city of many, the Holy City, Memacil. Their Ancestors made monuments of their gods; they created money, and they started their new existence in the mortal plane. Everything was fine and peaceful until the population was growing too large for the city and its countryside, so their ancestors began to build more and more cities to accommodate the population. Eventually they ventured out into the reaches of space, far away from their home with the help from the crashed alien ships. Back at the cities they began to train special Memau, Memau to explore, to go forth and discover new worlds for their population to colonize. But when the group of Memau returned home, they brought back news of great technology. The High Council began to talk about the benefits of adding technology to everyday Memau life. When the spiritual Memau, the Monks of Memauil, got wind of this, they protested it with all of their power. They protested; "We should stick to the old ways, the better ways! The ways that were given to us by the Gods!" But the council accepted the technology and started to see improvements in all Memau life. For example, combing ones fur was much easier with the Laser Comber 2000. Memau started to show great interest in space and stations. So the council decided to let Memau become tourists and explore the stations, but the Explorer Memau still went to work and brought back tales of the wide galaxy. Others went out to work on the discovered space stations, making the peeps happy and scaring away rodents.. The E they were paid was then used to buy and maintain the technology. Some Memau studied to become maintenance peeps to maintain the technology on Memauan and so on and so forth. All Memau were and are required to go to school and take up some skill in one thing or another. This has been the way of life since then, and Memau are still exploring the galaxy, Peeps enjoy the Memau's company, and other Memau still work on the home world.(By Allan_R)
Underwater Asylum
21-03-2004, 08:45
Subject 4: Planets of the Galaxy: Dragonia Prime.

Chapter I:Scenery of Dragonia Prime

Dragonia Prime is a small Earth sized planet in the far away Nova system with it's moon Veea'He'Le'Re (Vee-Uh-Hey-Ley-Rey), tucked away in the fifth galactic arm, the opposite direction of most civilizations (All but the Tradarians and Arctannians). After a thousand years of peace and prosperity, it is considered a very nice place to live by many standered.

Dragonia Prime is a city planet. However, that does not mean it's oceans are gone. In fact, everything but the oceans are gone (Not to mention the only thing that the natural life on Dragonia Prime has lived on). Other then that, it's all city, usually and average three kilometer high buildings. The areas of the planet are devided up into sections. The first kilometer is the industrial area. Where synthetic food is created and heavy/light goods are produced. The second kilometer is the commercial area, where most of the traffic is (Not to mention bright lights). The third kilometer is the residental area, where people live. Usually, the third kilometer has gardens on the tops of buildings, which was a mandatory ordinance intacted after ten/elevenths of the planet turned city.

If you visit Dragonia Prime, expect rainforest tempeture and rainfall. The planet's sewers are constantly troubled by the rainfall and usually dump it into the three oceans. The biggest is the Ara'Al (A-Ra-Uhl), the second is the Arg'Al (Arg-Uhl), and the smallest (But still large) is the Gra'Al (Gra-Uhl). All with natural life intact. If you were to take a tour though, you would see underwater labs, cities, and resorts. Which still do not disturb the natural scenery of Dragonia Prime's oceans.

In space is a giant orbital station, circiling the entire planet's equator. It's usually called by its Dragonian name, Veea'La. It is the center of trade in the fifth arm of the galaxy and has been for it's whole one hundred years of service. Of which the first fifty, it was not complete. It is also the home of the famed Imperial Shipyards (R), which have built such ships as the Falcon's Talon and the Red Demon.

Chapter II:Industry on the Prime

Dragonia Prime is known for it's persicion ship building. From huge trade ships to the attack ships of the Dragonian Navy, Dragonia Prime has built ship for five hundred years now. Most of which are built on the equatorial station. Besides ships, Dragonia Prime is the only producer of Mecha. Mech are three story tall manned robots. Most are bipedal and look like humans, but some are quadrapedal. The Mecha is the only land assualt vehicle used in Dragonia at the moment. The Mecha is always in high demand when Dragonia decides to sell new plans (Which in it's case is exetremely rare).

Suprisingly, Dragonia is also a big seller in the bio-engineered pet market. This is probally due to the fact that the birds you would see flying around in Dragonia Prime's skyline are infact bio-engineered creatures. Most being Repto-Avians, not true birds. They also claim to make the first "White-Memau". Which is a memau in the color of white that does not eat trash and transform into a Skrasher, they have recently sold big. However:They are not sold on Space Stations, they cannot breath the toxic to them but not to us air on it.

On Dragonia Prime's poles are huge industrial cities powered by the huge magnetic mantles of the poles. Even in the extreme cold, the poles produce the most military, light, and medium industry in the solar system of Nova. In fact, more then most modern day planets.

If you were to buy something on Dragonia Prime, you would use an Imperial Credit. Of which is equal to 1 E at the current exchange rate. Dragonia Prime has very housing, food, and entertaiment prices even though it has a bustiling population of 100 billion at the current moment. One million of which are Dragonian.

Chapter III:The People on Prime

Dragonians are lizard like creatures with wings on their back, talons on their fingers and apposable thumb, huge talons on their feet, and horns on their face. They rarely fight, but instead participate in politics. In fact, there is a caste, the elder caste, completely dedicated to this. Dragonians have been hunted to a meager population of one million because of their medical and healing properties.

Instead of mostly Dragonians populating Dragonia, there is Terrans. They however, are survivors of the destruction of Earth. They usually are the pilots of Mecha, members of a ship, or captains of a ship, in the Dragonian Imperial Army and Navy.

Each ten years, a new Council Elder is elected. But they do not rule the country, infact, there is no Dragonian Empire. It is really a large collection of city states that produce different products and adjust their own prices. This system was based on the Tradarian Free City State System. However, most laws are similar except on other Dragonian governed planets.

If you had free time in Dragonia, you could see a council debate in action at the Dragonian Imperial Elder Council. Or, go to the giant themepark at the equator, Dragon Land. There are also many zoos and aquariums on Dragonia Prime. And not to mention the Dragonian Imperial Museum of Natural History and Science, one of the biggest in the world (And required for all Dragonians on Dragonia Prime to see one day of their life during schooling).

Chapter IV:Information on Prime's Moon

Dragonia Prime's moon, Veea'He'Le'Re, is probally the most populated moon in the galaxy. It is classified as a city moon and has been that ever since. It has buildings two kilometers high on average, and it is a bustiling trade stop before landing on Prime itself. This is where most low gravity persicion products are made. The parts for the Red Demon and the giant axle schorcher laser for the Falcon's Talon were made here. Veea'He'Le'Re is a very developed moon with a population similar to Dragonia Prime's.

Chapter V:General Information on Prime

Capital:Dragonia Imperial City

Language:Old Dragonian, Basic Dragonia, Galactic Basic

Population:
Prime:101,403,930,000
Moon: 100,503,035,000


Ancient Dragonian Meanings:
Vee=Dragonia
Veea=Dragonian
La=Space Station
Sha=Galaxy
Re=Prime
Re'Hav=Elder
Sha'Re'Hav=Grand Elder
Ah'Ven=Not from here, or alien.
He=Moon
Gra=War
Arg=Peace
Ara=Balance

Chapter VI:Cities of Prime
Dragonia Imperial City (Vee'Re'Sla):

The Dragonia Imperial City, or Vee'Re'Sla in ancient Dragonian, is a great city spannin a ten mile diameter. In the center, lies the Imperial Complex. Which holds the Senetorial Hotel, the Imperial Palace, and the Dragonian Imperial Elder Council Building, the largest building in the galaxy (Not to mention the building with the largest one room interior). Underneath the citie's towers, lies millions of buried Dragonians, dating back from a million years ago. According to archeoligists, Dragonia Imperial City used to be a ancient cathedral that fell in a vicious battle at one point. The Dragonians, honoring the brave brothers and sisters that fought there, bury their dead there from this date. There is even a burial complex on the first ten floors of the city, even a museum and holo movie showing the years the cathedral participated in battle. Dragonia Imperial City is the most populated city in Dragonia Prime, it is also the oldest. It is never seen without heavy air traffic and lots of parks. The parks of which, were constructed by a fund by the Inter-Galactic Karmarama Park Organization (R), which raised several billion credits to build a park on top of every residental building's roof in the whole entire planet. The tops of buildings now look like a much taller and steeper version of the humans' Hanging Gardens of Babylon.

Shen'Claw:

The second biggest city in Prime, Shen'Claw is full of history. Whether you want to see the Dragonian Imperial Museum of Natural History and Science or the traditional (Not to mention stylish) inns. Shen'Claw is also known as "History Village". There is a lot of history to it in fact. It was originaly the first capital of prime until the citification, and it was also home to the first spaceship launch in Dragonian history. It is litered with flying tourists shops and holo video stores. Shen'Claw is also known for the unique archutecture of the buildings, which hold many statues of ancient Dragonian elders and officials on the tops and entrances to most places.

Dragonia's Peace (Veea'Arg):

Home to many arcades and the huge Dragon Land Theme Park, Dragonia's Peace, or Veea'Arg, is a large tourist based city with a lot of traffic and a lot of high speed performance rollar coasters. Many people go to visit the longest and voted best coaster in the galaxy, "The Interstellar Adventure", which is covered by black, electric, holographic glass to make special effects on every corner of the ride. There are also many Hyper Tag and Mecha Simulation games in the Arcade sections, no to mention the most enjoyable sport in the galaxy, robot gladitorial fights. There is even a huge, size changing, arena just for that one sport. Teams compete in the competetive sport of building their own robot then sending it off to destroy their competetor, disable it, or score enough hits until time runs out. There is also a few theme parks like Dragon Land on Veea'He'Le'Re, Arctannia, Polkav, Nova Meta, and one slated for construction on Aurora (Where the lone JSWY lives).

Chapter VII:Veea'He'Le'Re and Her Capital
Veea'He'Le'Re is, as you read, the city moon that orbits Prime. It's history is filled with many large Dragonian ships and trade route openings. In fact, the Fifth Galactic Arm Trade Route was founded on Veea'He'Le'Re. It's capital is Red City, or Hre'Crla in ancient Dragonian. The city is filled with many trade offices and space ports, not to mention the home of the Imperial Shipyard's offices as well. Hre'Crla is very large in population, and has a lot of robotic machinery constantly repairing the tall buildings for air leaks.

Ending Note:

Dragonia Prime is Utopia for most people (And Aliens). Not only is it an excellent vacationing spot, it is home to it's tens of billions of residents who share the third highest capita per income and standard of living in the entire Galaxy. Right next to Arctannia and Polkav I.

"Not only will its beautiful sunsets, breath-taking skyscraper parks, and first class recreational facilities keep you there, they'll keep generations there."-Vee'Las, Prime Minister of the Grey Council, Galactic Standard 3059.

Definitions:

Nova:1.The process in which a star collapses on itself and explodes, throwing all the gasses off of its solid core, leaving it dead for billions of years until the core eventually turns into a black dwarf and/or turns into a black hole.

2.The Dragonian System in the Fifth Galactic Arm. Contains two stars and fifteen planets. Including seventy moons of various sizes, and a large, dense, asteroid belt.

Tradarians-Semi-Insectoid race from Tradaria, in the Fifth Galactic Arm.

Arctannians-Strong, humanoid race from Arctannia, in the Fifth Galactic Arm.

Repto-Avians-Also known as Reptavians, these are a cross between a Bird and a Lizard. In fact, they are known as Dinosaurs on the planet Earth.

Imperial Credit-An electric form of currency, used by the citizens in the Fifth Galactic Arm.

Ancient Dragonian-A Dragonian form of language that uses symbols as words. Very similar to the Terrans' Japanese and Chinese. Most words are unpronouncable except to Dragonians.

Basic Dragonian-A Dragonian Form of language that is used to teach Dragonians Ancient Dragonian. Used in in-formal occasions.

And an editorial:
I hope you enjoyed the first Issue of SDW. We will be back next week.
Wetland
21-03-2004, 08:56
TAG
Underwater Asylum
21-03-2004, 10:27
Okay, because I'm bored here comes the second installment.

Subject 1: A brief history of Memuan.

B.M. is Before the coming of Memauan, Memauils son. A.I. is after Memauans death infecting the leader of an invading army with a skrasher, who decimated the alien army, which caused them to retreat, and never to return.

B.M. = Before Memauan
A.I. = After Infection

2000 B.M. Memauil comes to the planet, with his 15 cousins and starts the first city; Memacil, the holy city. Writes the Great Book, the code of conduct for Memau.

1850 B.M. Memauil dies, ascending to goddom again, to become ruler of all gods.

1535 B.M. The Great War begins. 2 large factions of Memau, the Great Memauil Federation, GMF, an the Society for Memak, SFM, 2 different believes on the all-powerful gods.

1500 B.M. The Great War ends, the GMF defeating the SFM. There are suspicions the gods may have started the war to settle a dispute. Over 30,000 Memau died from a population of 1 million. Primitive weapons were used.

1011 B.M. Memaui Empire formed, conquering the neighboring nations of Nemauil and Menauik. Memauan City formed as the base for the Empire.

829 B.M Memaui Empire falls, being ravaged by Memaj Barbarians. The remnants dissolve into feuding city-states.

50 B.M Prophecy of Memauan delivered by Memak.

5 B.M. Aliens come and try to conquer the planet.

0 B.M Memauan born.

15 years after memauans birth: Whole planet comes together under Memauans leadership.

0 A.I Memauan infects enemy leader, alien forces retreat, never to be seen again.

20 A.I. Memau discover rudimentary space flight using parts from invading armys ships left behind.

46 A.I. World Government formed. The Memauan Empire. Evil dictatorship.

65 A.I. First contact made with greys. Sadly all of them were killed when the skrasher eggs got implanted in them, by accident.

74 A.I. Research into skrashers begins.

80 A.I. Discovered that Memauan atmosphere nullifys egg.

83 A.I. Injection treatment for atmosphere to nullify egg put into wide use for space travellers.

100 A.I.-1460 A.I. Dark Ages. No records of happenings on Memauan. Memauan population Abroad continues to grow.

1501 A.I. Memauan Empire is overthrown, replaced by the Memauan High Council, MHC. Diplomats are sent to the Galactic Alliance.

1502 A.I. Memauan High Council recognized as government by the G.A.

1561 A.I. 10 sectors with 70 habitable planets aquired in the Necram Purcase from the Karmarama(Suspected they were high) fo only 20,000 E

1550 A.I Memau_on_Steroids the 2nd(me), son of one of the leaders of the rebellion against the Memauan Empire, and president of the MHC, is born. The prophecy is that MoS could be the next Memauan, to fight off an alien army. When grown he denies it, although he climbs the ranks in the military very fast.

1600 A.I. Now exctinct race of the KarmaGors, genetic experiments gone wrong, attack the MHC. Full scale war was raged on the KarmaGors. The Memauan Main Advance Force, led by MoS, destroys the remnant of the KarmaGors, recieves the Purple Tail.

1625 A.I. Attack of the creatures from another dimension sweeps through Gem Slug space and into Memauan Territory.

1663 A.I. After a 40 year war the creatures are defeated, the last of them retreating through a specila worm-hole, which is closed soon after. The G.A. and the Gem Slugs do not acknowledge Memauan's help, nor that the invaders even existed.

2000 A.I. Current events of RPG Dinner and RPG Station Life.

3000 A.I. Predicted that yet another reincarnated Memauan will infect the leader of another great army, but this time it will allow the Memau to conquer the universe.



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Don't forget this, the rest of the Dragonians, and the Arctannians!

Dragonian & Memauan Anti-Sentient Species Trade Pact & Alliance

This not only enforces and prohibits the trade of sentient species as products, but also forms the Dragonian & Memauan Alliance (A.K.A. Veea'Crlay'Ara in native Dragonian). Any trade of Dragonian and Memauan biproducts any trade of illegal products will be treated with exetreme prejiduce. Not only will the lawbreaker be executed, but they will shortly endure the severing of all limbs before they are beheaded. Not only do the Dragonian and Memauan governments enforce this, but the Dragonian Imperial Military and Memauan Military will do the same.

This pact also enforces the alliance of the Dragonian and Memauan governments. The Dragonian and Memauan shall not attack eachother, but their citizens should greet eachother as equals and exceptional kindness and gratitude. In times of disaster and war, the two governments shall help eachother, and should be considered allies in any war. What one government endures, so must the other. Shall they share their pain and suffering together, and shall they share their happiness and prosperity together.

Signed-Dragonian Imperial Grand Elder Sle'Ve Sh'La
Memauan Prime Minister Memi Amuas

Subject 2: Planet Fallout, a history.

Planet Fallout; And the History Thereof

Planet Fallout, though now in the Gamma Quatra system, had peaceful startings in the system known as the Milky Way. In 2005 A.D. on the planet Earth, rumblings of a third World War erupted. Leading the protagonists was the Earth country of America, in alliance with the other countries of Canada, Mexico, the continent of South America, and a large group of countries in the continent of Europe. Because these Earth references are archaic, we have provided short, to the point, references for these two terms.

Country: Large mass of land with one government.

Continent: Larger mass of land. This may contain many Countries so has no one government

The rest of the world had been fed up by the tyranny of these countries, as they now owned more then 9/10ths of the Earth's land mass. When an abandoned nuclear facility in China was searched, bountiful amounts of nukes were found, bringing the totals of the two alliances to an almost equal proportion. A small political group in America known as the Brotherhood Of Steel knew that insuing chaos would be the end of civilization. Though many went off to build bunkers and vaults to survive the storm, a smaller faction known as The Black Child dropped out of this 'bunkering'.

Instead, they began setting up a planet nearby as an escape route from the coming chaos. This planet was known as Venus. An ozone layer was made by the greatest scientists of The Black Child and the planet was made habitable. Just as the nukes started up, the Brotherhood of Steel made a jump for their bunkers. The Black Child faction barely made it to Venus before the Earth erupted into flames. Unable to set up an effective system of sensors, the innefective scouting parties of The Black Child found a 0.001% survial rate. The only surviving species on the planet was the cockroach.

Or so The Black Child thought. They collected and replicated an FEV Virus found in a Military Lab in the American city called San Francisco. Using a large set of rockets, The Black Child faction sent the planet Venus, now named Fallout, hurtling into space. Truth be told though, the human race had survived inside the vaults in smaller numbers then could be detected. Keeping the Earthen time keeping, they left the Milky Way in 2008.

Fallout Timeline
2008: The Black Child adopts the name of the Brotherhood of Space in respect to their fallen comrades. The development of XRD Transporters boost the speed of Planet Fallout away from Earth. (But in relation to current speeds, Fallout was still moving at the speed of a Grolien Dumptruck without warp engines... yes, that slow.)

2009: An actual living alien crashes into Fallout. Aforementioned Dumptruck's fusion core failed out right in the path of the still slow moving Fallout. Stealing primative Grolien Salt Hog Tech, the Brotherhood of Space, reverse engineers and renames the outdated tech into the Hylar V Assault Laser, Deep Space PDS Cannons and Assault cannons.

2013: More and more space junk falling onto Fallout leads to a better space program. Bulky, heavily armed Dreadnaughts, sleek and agile cruisers, and the long, slim carrier dropships are made. Later in the year, the dropship design is given fighter pods to accomodate ship to ship battles if the need arised.

2015: The first Memau falls to Fallout in a crate. The current commander Jacob Westernbrook took it as a pet and tried to get it to eat fancy meals with him. It felt contnt chasing after and gobbling the wrappers of said food. He loved the memau until the last moment of his life when the first Skrasher ever on Fallout erupted from his chest. Battling through four whole armadas of ground forces and dodging to shady pursuits of Cruisers, this "Deamon" eluded and attacked cities for over four years.

2020: As more and more Memau were found, convicts were used to breed Skrashers from. The Salt Hog, still alive, told Fallout's leaders of the horrors these beasts could inflict. For insubordination, he was the first test subject. These skrashers were taught from day one who they're leaders were.

2024: In a breeding accident, the new Commander Jeff Brigsby dies, in his place come the man Jason Brigsby, his son. He gives himself the name SkrasherSmasher

2028: Ambushing an entire fleet of Turakken, the Brotherhood of Space was now up to date on all technology and alien species. The Turakken also gave the idea of putting the long dormant FEV virus into some test subjects pre-eruption to see what effects would come of this. The scientists were the first hosts of the Super Skrashers, newer, even stronger skrashers. In the Fallout High Council, it was voted 183 to 17 that these 'Super Skrashers' were to be Fallout's army.

2032 (Present time): The Brotherhood of Space stops in the Gamma Quatra system. The mostly uninhabited system becomes quickley taken over, as listed in the next section. The need for even better soldiers has brought about dangerous experiments. Military protocall 10011101 prevents any data recording for any purpose other then military.

Manifest Destiny: and It's Effect on Gamma Quatra

The Human culture is known for it's speedy land grab tactics. The Brotherhood of Space is no exception to this greediness, the group taking only one year to grab the entire sector of 10 planets. Therefore, information will be displayed in a month by month format.

Month: 1/12 of a year. Classified in a word order. (Numbers will be provided.

January (#1)- Fallout stops in Gamma Quatra. Cruiser scouting parties record data, and return at the end of the month. Analisis indicated that there were 10 small planets, only three of which were deemed hostile. 3 Karmaraman Planets: Wow, Cool and Hippy, two Zedem Planets: Zanem and Zenem, A Salt-Hog Planet: Groul 4, and a Grey Planet: Carta. The three hostile were two Gor planets: Klingov and Arg. A third "hostile" planet was the Siren Planet: Minos, under the protection of the two Gor planets.

February (#2)- Emissary and Diplomatic forces are immediatly sent to the seven peacful planets, as the Super Skrasher Army of Fallout (SSAF) trained in a more interactive enviornment, encorperating use of large weapons, Hand to Hand Combat, and Grenades. Battle plans were drawn up to hit Minos first.

March (#3) Karmaraman Wow and Grey Carta took a month and a half to bring into a feasible agreement. Planets Cool and Groul 4 resisted due to diplomatic reasons. The planets Zanem and Zenem deemed the Brotherhood of Space to be a 'band of flying barbarians' and refused to let them enter at all. After dozens of weeklong debates of wether or not let the Brotherhood in, the governments rejected and sent the Diplomatic forces home with no progress. The planet of Hippy was recently attacked, and the government taken over by Gor's the diplomatic force was slaughtered before any chance was given to it. Military plans were diverted to attacking Hippy, and the diplomatic and emmisary forces from Wow, Carta, Zanem and Zenem were all sent to a meeting with Groul 4 and Cool leaders on Karmaraman ship Pringles. This meeting was to take time in what would approximatley be May 4th.

May (#4) No progress made on Pringles, but a waystation Neo Stargazer was set up by the Karmaramans as a diplomatic farming site. All of the diplomats were sent there. In combat, A standstill on Hippy ensued, as a large force of the SSFA was bunkered on the high mountain now called The Mountain of Bullet Fire. Using now outdated Browning M2 Miniguns, the Skrashers held off the Gor, while still unable to take any ground.

June (#5) The basic outline of a deal was made on Neo Stargazer June 19th 2028. Zenem and Zanem joined the diplomatic party finally, the combined resources of these planets would be enough to send more supplies and push the invaders off of Hippy, but the SSFA was rapidly deteriorating. Casualties were littering the mountain at a rapid pace. Each raid up the mountain left more Gor corpses and more Skrasher bones, as at this point they had no qualms about eating fallen comrades.

July (#6) Diplomacy problems flare up, as a Zenem Emmisary is caught in a Palace Galactica with a Siren named Bubbles. Mad Zealot Monks were found outside yelling "Empeach!" But with some strange legality, the Emmisary's charges were dropped, and the talks continued in a much more uptight mood. On the mountain, almost all hope was lost. Of the 10,000 dropped on the mountain, 234 were still able to fight. But Gor raids were relentless.

August (#7) A Gor bomber crashed into the bunker on The Mountain of Death, killing all inside. The Brotherhood had a backup plan. Used only for breeding, the FEV virus had been untested on aliens. It was put in a gas form and canisters filled with the gas were dropped onto the planet Klingov. The gor's on the planet swelled up, their throughts began to swell, and they eventually all exloded in a blast of blood. The entire sector is apauled.

September(#8): Within hours of the June 30th attack. Treaties of all sorts were formed. They were joined together to make the Non-Operation of the F E V, or NOFEV Treaty. It limited use of the FEV Virus to breeding of Super Skrashers. But hostile planets were made into mines, and the gors on other planets were foced into security jobs or used for Super Skrashers. The overpopulated Groul 4 were ecstatic. The workers plunged happily into the new mines, as the Karmaraman planets were used as plantations, and the grey planet was for the reaserch and use of better, more effective sick bay technology, and advanced medical supplies.

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Subject 3: The planet of Senechal:
Just when we begin to think the galaxy is ours to explore, we find a system Senechal realize that we are but defenceless babies, crawling too far from our crib. Navigator Solen Durst.

Senechal orbits a K class orange star. Massive structures have been seen on the surface. It is the only habitable planet in the system.

When those kidnapped from Gakal were found they exhibited a morbid reverance for death that strayed into dangerous obsession. Within five years of their rescue they were all incarcerated for murderous crimes or dead themselves. Ravvolo Deyanne.

The Gakal Atrocity:
Gakal is the furthest out planet in the Loderne system. It was used heavily as a science research colony and observatory. It detected Senechal and was attacked by some kind of mechanoid warriors. Most research staff were captured. It was believed to be an unwarranted attack. Within a week the sun had been extinguished.

The rise of Nathan Flintlock was like the rise of so many others of his kind. Paid for with the lives of good men Anon

Missing Stars:
Stars in a seven light year radius of Senechal were being extinguished by unknown attackers. Investigator Nathan Flintlock discovered this pattern and called for the Terrianion 8th to lead an expedition to Senechal to discover what the structures were.

Behind every Investigator lies the strength and will power that everyone has locked deep inside them Anon

The Expedition:
2 ships were to accompany Flintlock to the world of Senechal. One was the Aspira, a standard merchant ship outfitted for troop carrying and the other was the [i]Stormchild[/] a destroyer which also carried two cyclonic torpedoes, known as the Exterminatus, which were capable of destroying planets by destablising their core. Magos Razzalon was entrusted with the arming codes.

Senechal:
Upon landing, it became clear that inside the structures were thousands of mechanoids. Very little else is known other than these excrepts
imported_Eniqcir
22-03-2004, 01:03
Dyson Sphere Type I: Several billion objects orbiting the sun to effeciently use the energy. They can be any thing from space-station to solar collectors and such. This is the most commonly known Dyson Sphere Type, and is just usually refered to as a Dyson Sphere. Building something like this, would require the amount of materials equivlent to the mass of the planet Jupiter. From a vertical view in space, it would look like a giant egg yolk.
Actually, this is the least massive type of sphere [by some estimates it could be constructed entirely out of the materials available from the planet Mercury, although those are the low-end], and all Dyson Sphere's of any type would look like an empty black region of space in the visual spectrum while putting out huge amounts of radiation in the infrared.

If we were to use a Dyson sphere, we would be harvesting the energy before it even hit a planet, and now we would have planets getting colder without any counter balance (ie if we start using energy from a dyson sphere to power spaceships or even just the sphere itself).
If you have a solid Dyson Sphere, why would you care what happens to any planets you have left over? If you have a non-solid sphere (Type I), holes can be left to allow light to each planet, or the energy collected can be used to artificially light and heat the planets.

Dyson Sphere Type I: Like all types of the sphere, it would have a serious issue trying to find an orbit height that would not result in the sphere melting. Another problem would be the size. Any two objects will have a natural gravitation towards each other. Two people standing a metre apart will feel about 0.0000005 Newtons of forces towards each other, that's about 0.005 grams of pressure. Two objects, one being the sun and the other one having the same mass as Jupiter, would feel such an enormous pull that the sphere would have to rotate around the Sun at incredibly huge speeds.
As the sun would be in the center of the sphere, it would feel no net gravitational effects. Also, a Type I sphere, as well as the Dyson Bubble variation, are typically composed of statites held up by light pressure, such that they don't have to orbit at all.

Melting issues would be incredibly serious here too, since you would require a relatively close proximity to the sun. To compensate, you would need to create this sort of sphere incredibly thick, and expect much of the inner "crust" to melt as it shields from the heat. We would end up with layers of heat just like Earth's crust. The only gravity issue would be that there might be too much. Such a huge structure would contain so much mass that the gravity would crush any living organism.
Every one of those problems is solved if you build the sphere large enough or install suitable cooling systems such that its thermal equilibrium is at a temperature comfortable for living in. If the sphere rotates and you live on the inside, you can set gravity to whatever you want. Given the size of the sphere, even if you lived on the outside the shere distance from the center of mass (the sun) would reduce the gravity to a small fraction of a g. Remember, Type Is and Dyson Bubbles are held up entirely by light pressure- gravity can't be too exceedingly strong.
Note: a Sphere built around a red dwarf of approximately .07 (if I remember correctly) solar masses can be made to have an external surface gravity of 1 g and a temperature of approximately 20 degrees.

On another note, any miscalculation on the exact size, speed and orbit height of the dyson sphere has a chance of creating a massive intergalactic disaster.
Interstellar perhaps, but not intergalactic. And even then, it would take a very long time for any incident to affect another star.
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22-03-2004, 03:31
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22-03-2004, 07:16
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