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Engineering Discussion: "Stargates"

Capsule Corporation
21-03-2004, 05:19
Capsule Corporation has several worlds around the milky way Galaxy, the farthest from Earth being roughly 45,000 light years away.

We are trying to engineer mass-relocator system of some sort, that can close the 45,000 ly distance in under 12 hours.

It needs to be big enough to send entire battlegroups of ships through, and having a semi-permanent connection between "gates" would be preferable.

Any suggestions? Here are some ideas I have:

A Space-Fold Chamber that would use a ton of energy to fold space, teleporting a group instantly to another point in the galaxy.

Some sort of hyperspace gate, that would mark two points in realspace, and their corresponding points in hyperspace, allowing non-FTL ships to travel between gates/markers.

Something like a stargate, that would create a wormhole in space, in which ships could just jump in one end, hang on for a ride, and wind up at the other gate in a short time.

Or even something like that teleporter in "Contact," using a chain of devices to create one big wormhole network... though that is not optimal

Any preferences/suggestions/new concepts? Please no "you can't do that"'s.
Xendi
21-03-2004, 05:25
Xendi has two such devices between our two main planets, which are roughly 40,000 ly apart. Although our main warships are equiped with rift drives, there are still vessels (such as civilian vessels) that cannot be equiped with rift drives and need a help crossing such distances.

http://www.bakers-place.co.uk/b5wallpaper/640wsfleet.jpg
Capsule Corporation
21-03-2004, 05:27
Xendi: VERY nice. What kind of travel time does this average? how long can you sustain a connection?
Capsule Corporation
21-03-2004, 06:11
bump
Underwater Asylum
21-03-2004, 06:19
Subspace drives. They're small, efficient and work by entering a different dimension.
Xendi
21-03-2004, 06:35
We can sustain connection for approximatly 1 hour, before needing to disconnect for a period of 20 minutes for cooldown of the coils.

Total travel time takes about 2 minutes. Operating similar to our rift drives, it folds a rift in space, but a stable one and it directly links us to the other end. 2 minutes to traverse 40,000 lightyears if sufficient enough for us, although I'm sure our scientists could improve it.
Capsule Corporation
21-03-2004, 07:16
We can sustain connection for approximatly 1 hour, before needing to disconnect for a period of 20 minutes for cooldown of the coils.

Total travel time takes about 2 minutes. Operating similar to our rift drives, it folds a rift in space, but a stable one and it directly links us to the other end. 2 minutes to traverse 40,000 lightyears if sufficient enough for us, although I'm sure our scientists could improve it.That is excellent. What could we pay/trade for the technology, or if possible, a number of these machines?
Capsule Corporation
21-03-2004, 07:16
Subspace drives. They're small, efficient and work by entering a different dimension.Umm, more info please? They have subspace drives in Star trek, and they're frikkin slow... it wouyld take about 4 years to go 40,000 ly :P
Xendi
21-03-2004, 07:18
Xendi in general does not trade technologies to other peoples. However, we could make an exception if, say, a certain modern-ish nation named Raysia were to allow another modern-ish nation named Doujin produce and sell say, I don't know.. the RF-37-2800 instead of non-sale prod. rites full prod. rites..

*whistles innocently*

IC:

The Grey Council will have to convene to decide on wether or not to share our technology. We will be with you shortly.

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Dobsinia
21-03-2004, 07:20
its slow. 4 years to go 40,000 light years......slow.....right.....
Underwater Asylum
21-03-2004, 07:22
Thats impulse drive. It works by opening up another dimension in which speeds are accelerated 5000 fold. Total time for out colony travel with their boosters is about 1 1/2 minuters for 40 thousand light years. With added acceleration from the subspace bossters in system.
Xendi
21-03-2004, 07:25
Impulse Drive? Umm.. impulse drive it would be impossible in a human lifetime to go 40,000 lightyears.. hell it took Voyager what.. 7 years to travel 20,000 lightyears and they had some wormhole/special tech breaks that got them gaps cut...
Dobsinia
21-03-2004, 07:25
some of you guys should really patent this stuff....
Underwater Asylum
21-03-2004, 07:27
Mine is patented. No one else uses it so I patent and boom, a powerful trading device.
Capsule Corporation
21-03-2004, 07:30
its slow. 4 years to go 40,000 light years......slow.....right.....yeah, it is. I said 12 hours or less.

My normal foldships can make the trip in 36 hours.
Xendi
21-03-2004, 07:30
My jumpgates are already copyrighted, along with my other technology.
Xendi
21-03-2004, 07:32
My normal warships can make the trip in about 1 minute (You people operate on folding space, while my rift drives forms a rift in space. The farthest the rifts can go, however, is 10,000 lightyears.. making for 4 transport periods.)
Capsule Corporation
21-03-2004, 07:32
My jumpgates are already copyrighted, along with my other technology.trade?

The point of these gates would be to create a definae trade route from earth to Zarahemla, and from Zarahemla to Andromeda (a wormhole exists there).

This link would bring a diect connection between andromeda and Earth... the trade aspects would be enormous.

You could charge tolls or something?
Xendi
21-03-2004, 07:33
Effectively, this is also a rift in space.. the rift because it is connected 40,000 ly takes 2 minutes, so it is faster for our warships to travel back and forth from Minbar to Xendi Prime.
Capsule Corporation
21-03-2004, 07:41
So do we have a deal? You give us the jumpgates, you get to toll the travellers?
Xendi
21-03-2004, 07:54
U.A. - A "subspace drive" is a warp drive, basically (last time I checked anyway..)

Ok, let me talk a little about warp mechanics in relation to star trek.

A ship creates a subspace field which acts like another universe very tightly coupled to our own. If I was inside such a field and you were outside, we could conduct a conversation, shake hands, etc. But when the field is powerful enough (1000 millicochranes or more) and asymmetric, it is propulsive. Nested, decoupling fields magnify the effect considerably. But the ship still interacts with everything in our universe, and vice versa, as the level of subspace in which the field exists is so tightly coupled to our own that it appears no "fancier" than, say, a magnetic field, if you're looking closely at it. It is not entered by a starship.

That is basically warp. However, there are many other technologies within star trek (I don't remmeber subspace drives.. which would basically be a warp drive so I don't get that) There is Transwarp, Quantom-Slipstream, umm.. There was a fold drive at one point in time I believe in Voyager..
Xendi
21-03-2004, 08:21
The Council has decided.

The Federation of Xendi will construct jumpgates at whichever location you want, however, we require a small base near that location and will be in "control" of the jumpgate. Your vessels can use it freely at their choosing (except of course during the short down times to let the coils recharge)

Provide us with a location at Zara, and we will build a base in the Earth Solar System. Vessels may enter the jumpgate between Zara and Earth whenever they want, but since we are controling the jumpgates we disabled the ability for the vessels to connect to the jumpgates at Xendi Prime and Minbar. We are generally an isolationist people, and do not want to be bothered in our systems.

We will dispatch the FX Velarian to construct jumpgates at Zara and Earth.

Whitestar Class with fighters deployed
http://www.bakers-place.co.uk/b5wallpaper/640minbarcruiser.jpg


Admiral Shiva, speaking for the Grey Council.
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21-03-2004, 08:25
CC speaking:

Very good.

If possible, we'd like to reverse engineer these so we can make our own version of them... but for now, this is still very good.

You will be given a base at 70 N, 60W, on Zarahemla.

Thank you, and we hope to see the construction finished soon.
Xendi
21-03-2004, 08:35
At this present time, attempts to reverse engineer Xendi technology would result in catastrophic consequences.
VirginIncursion
21-03-2004, 08:40
Impulse Drive? Umm.. impulse drive it would be impossible in a human lifetime to go 40,000 lightyears.. hell it took Voyager what.. 7 years to travel 20,000 lightyears and they had some wormhole/special tech breaks that got them gaps cut...


The Delta Quadrant is 70,000 light Years from Earth in Voyager
Capsule Corporation
21-03-2004, 08:42
Impulse Drive? Umm.. impulse drive it would be impossible in a human lifetime to go 40,000 lightyears.. hell it took Voyager what.. 7 years to travel 20,000 lightyears and they had some wormhole/special tech breaks that got them gaps cut...


The Delta Quadrant is 70,000 light Years from Earth in VoyagerThey went 20,000 light years, then took a borg transwarp back home.
VirginIncursion
21-03-2004, 08:52
Impulse Drive? Umm.. impulse drive it would be impossible in a human lifetime to go 40,000 lightyears.. hell it took Voyager what.. 7 years to travel 20,000 lightyears and they had some wormhole/special tech breaks that got them gaps cut...


The Delta Quadrant is 70,000 light Years from Earth in VoyagerThey went 20,000 light years, then took a borg transwarp back home.

They also interacted with many differant races along the way. There was a gate like technology in Next Generation. Where Reg Barkley
interacted with an alien space probe, built it in the hollow deck, then the
Enterprise D traveled to meet another race of people. Also Wesley Crusher
and the Travller can cause long range travel to .
VirginIncursion
21-03-2004, 08:56
In Kormanthor's RP about a Huge Alien Star City there are an alien Race from the Andromeda Galaxy that has a Dimensional drive that works without gates. A drive which Kormanthor has been given to equalize
our side in the war with the Cyrealis.
VirginIncursion
03-06-2004, 09:47
Impulse Drive? Umm.. impulse drive it would be impossible in a human lifetime to go 40,000 lightyears.. hell it took Voyager what.. 7 years to travel 20,000 lightyears and they had some wormhole/special tech breaks that got them gaps cut...

Impulse Drive is normally used within a solar system. Then ST Ships
use Warp, TransWrap, Slipstream & ThoughtWarp.
VirginIncursion
03-06-2004, 09:50
Of course thoughtwarp can only be accomplished if there is a
traveller aboard your ship that is willing to give your warp engines
a thought boost.