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The Macabee government has decided to declare war on those belligerent against the Empire of Credonia. The Empire of the Macabees will not tolerate this inate madness.

In the midst of the sea 20 Battleships, 10 Pocket Battleships, 40 Cruisers, 40 Frigates, 100 Patrol Boats, 15 Carriers, 20 Missile Boats, and 60 Destroyers emerge 200km off the coast of Dancing Moose. The naval force had just returned from police actions around Muktar and Zarbia, and had joined together in mid ocean.

The patrol boats kept a 100km radius ASW around the giant fleet, detecting enemy fleet movements 600km away, thus giving the fleet 700km warning, well enough to track even ground movements inside Dancin Moose.

More importantly, with the fleet, some nautical miles away, were 90 nuclear (propelled) submarines, some 125km off the coast, half submerged.

At war with:

Aust
Holy Panooly
Catania-Marinov
Wazican
SLOA
GameFAQ
Doujin
FutureEngland

bump

Don't be so quick to add one of my regionmates (Phoenixius) to that list. He hasn't really been involved at all, and if you take him off the hit list, my mercenaries are available forhire. (http://s4.invisionfree.com/The_Unforgiven_Board/index.php?showtopic=144)

Don't be so quick to add one of my regionmates (Phoenixius) to that list. He hasn't really been involved at all, and if you take him off the hit list, my mercenaries are available forhire. (http://s4.invisionfree.com/The_Unforgiven_Board/index.php?showtopic=144)

OOC: I copy/pasted the list.

[Mac, we were in CIPE together a long time ago. My nation was DEATED but i revived it. my billion pop is back, so if you need me....say the word]

[Mac, we were in CIPE together a long time ago. My nation was DEATED but i revived it. my billion pop is back, so if you need me....say the word]

OOC: Hell yea, join the fun... this is a basic land grab, for a good cause...

But let me fill you in on the story..

Credonia, I guess, declared war on Aust, and got a whole bunch of nations on his back.. honoring my long alliance with Credonia I'm jumping in to help him.

In having returned to NS with my huge population and military.

Hell, Macabees, you know me! We were in the NJA and once an ally always an ally through thick and thin, come hell, high water and nuclear missiles!!!!! Lets roll. :P

I remember GameFAQ being a terrorist nation. He committed random acts of bombing at the behest of the HLF. Sadly I do not have access to the post where this occurred, but I can assure you that it did happen. You would have to look back a good bit to find it.

"The hasty actions of the Empire of Macabees cannot and will not be tolerated. The Constitutional Monarchy of Rotovia will stand alongside the nation of Aust, the leadership of which holds great esteem within our government. If you wish to continue your attack upon the coalition forces then you be forced to with our nation also."

Senator Julia Aptiva
Vice President of Rotovia

[Mac, we were in CIPE together a long time ago. My nation was DEATED but i revived it. my billion pop is back, so if you need me....say the word]

OOC: Hell yea, join the fun... this is a basic land grab, for a good cause...

But let me fill you in on the story..

Credonia, I guess, declared war on Aust, and got a whole bunch of nations on his back.. honoring my long alliance with Credonia I'm jumping in to help him.

i'm in.

[what happened to artista? i checked your region, hes not there]

[Mac, we were in CIPE together a long time ago. My nation was DEATED but i revived it. my billion pop is back, so if you need me....say the word]

OOC: Hell yea, join the fun... this is a basic land grab, for a good cause...

But let me fill you in on the story..

Credonia, I guess, declared war on Aust, and got a whole bunch of nations on his back.. honoring my long alliance with Credonia I'm jumping in to help him.

Check the thread "Aust Massacres Credonian Civilians".
Credonia hasn't declared war yet, he just began a fairly clumsy and ill-timed covert op to rescue a VIP and get some back for what a Usurper did to his embassy.

To: Rotovia
From: Macabees

If that is what you want, we will give it to you.

To: Rotovia
From: Macabees

If that is what you want, we will give it to you.

Dancing Moose pulled out of that "Coalition", they've declared themselves "Neutral".

Macabees, your doing this in a more wayward sense of imperial expansion, rather than 'backing Credonia' like you say you are, arent you. After all, I never posted hostilities against Credonia or say Im going to attack him. All I did was, as a fellow nation and ally (bound by treaty!), pledge my alliegance to Aust IF he was attacked. As in, my only goals were to defend him where necessary.

In order to boost more diplomatic connections with the Macabees, we will declare support. However, no military has been deployed, as there is but one legion of the military available. Support will be rallied soon though.

To: Rotovia
From: Macabees

If that is what you want, we will give it to you.

Dancing Moose pulled out of that "Coalition", they've declared themselves "Neutral".

OOC: 1 down... 8 more to go..

IC:

The task force was quick to move as the declaration of neutrality was received. The ASW perimeter was kept as it began to move towards the Aust coast.

OOC: Someone had a task force around Aust. Please post your reply to these movements. Rember I have a large ASW perimeter around me, so an attack right now is impossible, unless you get through my perimeter.

*At a Keyshona port*

The 257th Mobile infantry stands in a straight line it's obedience almost frightening. An officer suddnely shouts "257 Move forward, prepare to board!" The whole formation takes steps forward and then walks onto a large ship. The ship, a large transport ship is amred with only AA rockets and one tomahawk missile. Once the ships is boarded it slowly heads out to see eascorted by 6 Keyshona B-Class Escort ships. The CO of the 257th steps onto a podium.

CO: Alright men,It has been almost an eternity since we have last seen war! Only a few of us can remeber wars against the Ultra-Right Wings and other Nazi Bastards. But today we face anew challenge. We are here to aid in our ally's battle. For us this shall not be to hard for we are large, well equipped and well trained. Do not Fear my comrades to day is a new Day!!!! As this our ally's fight it is thus our fight!! We will not slack off simply because it has nothing to do with us, becasue it has a lot to do with us. Make your nation, make your president, make me proud. God dammit, make your frikkin pet hamster proud!!!! That is all"

*The CO steps down and examines his men who are now talking freely*
-----------------------------------------------
Keyshona B-Class

Deck- 200 ft long.

Armament: 5 mounted Machine guns (.50 caliber)
1 Tomahawk missile
Depth Charges
32 Patriot Missiles
10 A-22 Keyshona Anti-Sea missiles.

To: Rotovia
From: Macabees

If that is what you want, we will give it to you.

Dancing Moose pulled out of that "Coalition", they've declared themselves "Neutral".

OOC: 1 down... 8 more to go..

IC:

The task force was quick to move as the declaration of neutrality was received. The ASW perimeter was kept as it began to move towards the Aust coast.

OOC: Someone had a task force around Aust. Please post your reply to these movements. Rember I have a large ASW perimeter around me, so an attack right now is impossible, unless you get through my perimeter.

Your ASW perimeter hit my ASW perimeter about ten minutes ago-we didn't shoot, did you? we've got two fair-to-middling carrier groups in the area trying to keep the shooting confined (Peacekeeping duty, it sucks.).
The NKS Hue Battlegroup is directly off Aust's Coast at the international waters line. They've already lost 24 fighters to Austian AF units crossing into international waters, and they've got every reason to be at war-but aren't.

I posted names on the Aust Massacres Credonian Civilians thread, but all you'd be interested in are types.

1 Essex Class Carrier (some modifications)

2 Iowa (Modified, 8 14" guns in two turrets of four, the number three turret is replaced with a VLS system, Phalanx PDW, otherwise pretty standard for late '90s loadout)
4 LHA craft (one is running as a mothership for ASW helos, one is a pure SAR/Hospital loadout, the other two are standard models)
5 Ticonderoga Class Cruisers
10 Destroyers (Various models)
20 Frigates (mostly OHP's, although there are some older/rarer types)
5 Submarines (Attack types only, no Boomers)
Various UnRep ships, oilers, and some Minesweepers (Just in case worse comes to worse, and we go from "Peacekeeping" to "Invade Aust to remove a butcher".)

The Following Nations declared War upon are under the Official Protection of the Colonial Armed and Space Forces:

-Catania-Marinov
-Doujin

These nations shall and will be defended, and if any hostile action IS taken, all Colonial Assests, including Nuclear, Hydrogen, and Neutronic, will be used in Defense of Allies of the People, Comrade Brethren Allies.

Stand down against these nations or I will take action.

To: Rotovia
From: Macabees

If that is what you want, we will give it to you.

Dancing Moose pulled out of that "Coalition", they've declared themselves "Neutral".

OOC: 1 down... 8 more to go..

IC:

The task force was quick to move as the declaration of neutrality was received. The ASW perimeter was kept as it began to move towards the Aust coast.

OOC: Someone had a task force around Aust. Please post your reply to these movements. Rember I have a large ASW perimeter around me, so an attack right now is impossible, unless you get through my perimeter.

Your ASW perimeter hit my ASW perimeter about ten minutes ago-we didn't shoot, did you?
OOC: If you excuse my pyramiding (sp), Lol.

*At a covert base somewhere in Keyshona....men slip into black camo suits and load up silenced G-36Cs and attach LAMs to them in the background the noise of the ICBM control center power geneartors can be heard, being turned on.*

Covert NCO: "Sir, it has been a long time. It really has."

Covert Lieutenant: "Yes, it has, but dont worry, we are all veterans, and the former NJA forces should be getting here soon. Lets just hope we remeber our old experiences!"

Covert NCO: "I hope I don't get nervous in the heat of battle. I mean its been way way to long, hell they havent hd us do a trainging drill since last month. That's not good"

Covert Officer: "Well maybe you should go to the optional training. You slacker."

*THe officer chuckles as he puts his USP Expert in his thigh holster*

OOC: You may want to add me to that list, as I support the defense of the Aust people. I also dislike Credonia's Foreign policies but would perfer to negotiate, if given the chance. Just so you know that everyone who opposes Credonia isn't a warmonger. :)

IC: We ask that everyone involved at least attempts a peaceful resolution to this problem. Surely there is no need for greater bloodshed?

Yes, I agree, I would be willing to host negotiations within my nation's borders. We could agree to terms of negotiations and set a diplomatic resolution in to motion.

I will not stand for this. I have thought it over, and have decided to remove my nations state of neutrality and once again pledge alliegance to the defense of Aust and any other Antarctic nations, who are being notified and are mobilizing forces as we speak.

I'm assuming that you entering Anarctican waters with intent to destroy is an act of aggression so...the naval portion of SAND (Snowy Antarctic Negotiations for Defense) has been offically mobilized. It consists of over 40 CBG's and various other naval forces contributed from other nations in Antarctica. If you attack then these forces will automaticlly attack and destroy your naval presence in Antarctica.

For more information on SAND or SLOA(Snowy Lands of Antarctica) please visit: snowylands.tripod.com.

[Mac, we were in CIPE together a long time ago. My nation was DEATED but i revived it. my billion pop is back, so if you need me....say the word]

OOC: Hell yea, join the fun... this is a basic land grab, for a good cause...

But let me fill you in on the story..

Credonia, I guess, declared war on Aust, and got a whole bunch of nations on his back.. honoring my long alliance with Credonia I'm jumping in to help him.

i'm in.

[what happened to artista? i checked your region, hes not there]

Its sweet of you to ask for me Bumplords LOL.
We support OUR ally of Macabee's, Keyshona, and Bumplords.

OOC: You may want to add me to that list, as I support the defense of the Aust people. I also dislike Credonia's Foreign policies but would perfer to negotiate, if given the chance. Just so you know that everyone who opposes Credonia isn't a warmonger. :)

IC: We ask that everyone involved at least attempts a peaceful resolution to this problem. Surely there is no need for greater bloodshed?

Agreed. I would like to remind Central Facehuggeria that Nuevo Kowloonese aviators have died attempting to prevent further escalations, and that I'm probably pissing the Austian Ambassadrix to my nation off incredibly by refusing to invade Aust's capital city right-this-moment.

The goals for these talks must take into account the provocations that have brought this immediate situation about. Namely, that Mister Palpatine has, for all intents and purposes, seized power, slaughtered innocents, and started a war, and he even now holds the life of his rightful Leige hostage. Credonia's action was precipitate and ill-advised, but it is done, and people are now dying.
I submit that the threat of facing Credonia, Midlonia, and their allies can bring this situation to an end, provided the International community can:

1.
Control the nations already engaged in conflict, and bring this conflict to a peaceful conclusion.

2. we MUST limit damages, and prove the bona-fides of the situation (i.e. if the boy has been killed, then it becomes necessary to remove and try his murderer, as well as ensure his rightful Heir, who is not Palpatine, ascends in his place.) While Bertrude has not revealed whom this person might be, we most assuredly do not want an international criminal in charge of a multibillion human population with an industrial base.
given that Aust is a Monarchy for all intents and purposes, it is necessary to preserve as much order as possible while ending this disgraceful state of affairs. Palpatine must be arrested, and the Emperor must be allowed to return to his throne.


3. We must form an agreement, both among the Credonian Allies, and the Anti-Credonian allies, delineating what constitutes a War Crime, and under what conditions. We must then find a way to compel Credonia, and Aust, as well as every other Nation present, to sign it, and give it teeth to make it enforceable.
Without mutual rules of engagement, agreed upon and observed by all, no peace-agreement will be enforceable between the members.

We suggest that Huzen-Hagen, HLF, and Credonia must all three participate before Point three can commence-and that point three is the most critical point for those nations that are here and involved merely because they do not like Credonia's policies and actions.

Points one and two address why my troops are here, and why Credonia is here.
Point two would also address Midlonia's reason for being here-the arrest of Mister Palpatine, and his eventual trial, would free the Midlonian King from his unlawful imprisonment, and guarantee that the Emperor is, in fact, the man in charge, ending much of this current confusion and hostility.

Point One is, and has been since the first shot was fired, my nation's main concern behind point two. We are opposed to allowing a mass-murderer, a criminal and possibly a would-be Regicide, to hold sway over a major Nation that can destabilize whole regions.

Point three is our peace-offering and a pound of prevention. By creating and enforcing a code of conduct between involved nations, we can, hopefully, prevent un-necessary conflicts that cost innocent lives between us.

We would like to take up the kind offer of a neutral port to gather, and conduct talks-so long as those talks include the above three points, and so long as those talks do not drag out un-necessarily due to acrimony.

I will not stand for this. I have thought it over, and have decided to remove my nations state of neutrality and once again pledge alliegance to the defense of Aust and any other Antarctic nations, who are being notified and are mobilizing forces as we speak.

Look, We're trying to stop this before it spreads. Don't you get it?? This goes beyond what's happening here in the Antarctic-this is threatening a much,much, larger and bloodier war, either now, or in the future.
Blockade, hold it back, help me calm this down, and get Credonia to back out, but follow up on what you know is right. As long as Mister Palpatine thinks he can get away with this, you're no safer than those poor bastards in the Embassies.

To: Rotovia
From: Macabees

If that is what you want, we will give it to you.Secret IC
With the proposed marriage of Her Eminencey, Lady Nicoletta Baccheus the government feels it is in our nations best intrests to insure no harm comes the nation of Aust. Please donot presume to bribe us to back down.

Unknown Source

As Moontian is a member of both SLOA and SAND, we have been drawn into the war as a defensive player. So far, the Moontian naval fleets in SAND have been mobilised, along with the coastal force of frigates, patrol boats, fusion-powered submarines, and SBR platforms.

In the Van Allen Belts; the Flamewall Fleet, still small during the restructuring, kept guard against any possible opposing craft; while the other radar satellites kept taking pictures of the planet in the radio, ultraviolet, and infra-red spectra.

Entire HP fleet has been mobilized and awaiting instructions.

EAT MY SLIPPERS! YOULL NEVER TAKE US ALIVE..

OOC: lol

IC: There must be some way we can resolve this whole conflict with out the shedding of blood or tears. What we need to do is set up a diplomatic council. 2 diplomats from each nation can meet, within one of our borders and we will hold a tribunal. We can decide some terms and hopefully reach a peacefull conclusion and avoid fighting. We can completely avoid needless fighting if we could just cooperate before-hand. I for one am willing to set up negotiations and work this whole thing out. I am also willing to host it in my nation.

A very wise solution, but we now have a strong alliance against Credonia and we can't let this marvelous oppertunity pass to do something about him.

A very wise solution, but we now have a strong alliance against Credonia and we can't let this marvelous oppertunity pass to do something about him.

OCC: i have said it before and will say it again he will be defended by myself and the RBA if he is attacked.

Secret message to HP: Calm yourself, Holy Panooly. We must ensure that we have the moral high ground. We have to at least appear to be willing to negotiate. We both know that Credonia will not abandon their imperialist ways through negotiation, but we have to appear as though we are willing to try. If we have the moral high ground, allies will flock to our cause, and many of Credonia's allies will reconisder their obligations.

OOC: If Credonia is away, we won't be able to do much, will we? :wink:

A very wise solution, but we now have a strong alliance against Credonia and we can't let this marvelous oppertunity pass to do something about him.

Well, we should all give it a try :wink: I mean, do you really want to lose the lives of your soldiers (OOC: Doesnt matter to me I got a 2.266 billion pop) IC: If it comes to war however I will fight alongside my longtime ally, The Macabees. But if you all insist on war, so be it.

Facehugger is right. I have to calm down. And yes, we agree with negotiations.

OCC: the Dr_Twist Government will not attack any nation in this situation in anger unless we are attacked or Credonia is attacked and we will go to his Defense with the RBA, but i want to make it 100% Clear we will attack no 1 in anger in this thread unless they attack some 1 else 1st.

Dr. Twist, I agree, but since I have no relations with Credonia, my stance remains slightly different. I am here to aid the Macabess and anyone with them, as we are long standing allies.

~If any nation is interested in participating in negotiations, within my nation please Telegram me ASAP!~

I'm interested since Creddy clearly doesn't reply to our posts.

IC: <Message Sent>

The Premier looked at the small computer screen. "Excellent, perhaps we will be able to force Credonia to abandon its imperialist tendencies by diplomacy. It would be infinitely better than having to sacrifice lives. I hope this works out."

[Mac, we were in CIPE together a long time ago. My nation was DEATED but i revived it. my billion pop is back, so if you need me....say the word]

OOC: Hell yea, join the fun... this is a basic land grab, for a good cause...

But let me fill you in on the story..

Credonia, I guess, declared war on Aust, and got a whole bunch of nations on his back.. honoring my long alliance with Credonia I'm jumping in to help him.

I never declared war on aust. Aust killed all of my people in that nation, and kidnapped the young emperor. I already had forces IN aust at the time helping them fight off the rebels, but i pulled most out, then sent them back in (the ones that had already left) to assist in rescuing the young emperor and helping him take back his nation. Where the coalision against me gets justification in trying to attack me (even tho im not acknowledging any invasion of credonia since im not getting into anymore RP's since im takin a break from NS for a little while starting at the end of the week once i get all these RP's concluded (hopefully), i dont know.

OOC: ok, I will make a negotiations thread then! :wink:

IC: Thank you for your cooperation in this matter. I and assure anyone who sends delegates to my nation that safety is one of our highest priorities and you should not fear.

I would like to hold negotiaitons in our capital of, Wumbo. By holdinig it in our capital I can guarantee the most security men. We also have a relatively isolated Diplomatic Conference Center towards the Outskirts of the city, this is where I want to host it. Waht do you think?

I'm interested since Creddy clearly doesn't reply to our posts.


I dont reply to your posts because I HAVENT BEEN ON, and as i told everyone, IM LEAVING NS FOR A WHILE STARTING THIS WEEK....what dont you understand about that

I HAVENT SEEN YOU POSTING THAT.

I remember GameFAQ being a terrorist nation. He committed random acts of bombing at the behest of the HLF. Sadly I do not have access to the post where this occurred, but I can assure you that it did happen. You would have to look back a good bit to find it.

How would YOU know if i commited acts of terrorism if you just made your nation?

Here is the thread:
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=123725&highlight=

EDIT:I only bombed ONE person!

The Dr_Twist Government will be at the meeting, we have a lot of influence within Nation states and we believe we can help a lot in any discussions that go on and can defiantly help enforce anything put throw at the meeting.

Besides Central Facehuggeria, who is willing to negotiate?

I will

I'm interested since Creddy clearly doesn't reply to our posts.


I dont reply to your posts because I HAVENT BEEN ON, and as i told everyone, IM LEAVING NS FOR A WHILE STARTING THIS WEEK....what dont you understand about that

OOC: As I said before, Credonia, take a break. We'll still be here when you get back. And HP, Credonia is going on vacation for awhile, so he won't be on. Thus, we won't be able to have any war until he gets back. Once he does get back, though, we will be ready for him.

IC: The Anti-Credonian coalition exists to prevent imperialism, specifically Credonian imperialism. While the government of Aust may be oppressive, at least it isn't (for the moment) imperialist.

IC Edit: We will send two delegates, General Minsc and experienced Diplomat Andrea Nique. Accompanying each of them will be 3 body guards. (2 elite troopers each, and one Psionic warfare specialist each.) Hopefully, we won't need them, but you can never be too safe.

If Creddy stops intimidating nations then we'll be a lot happier.

Negotiate here- http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=133416

Holy Panooly, I doubt you could send your fleet anywhere at the moment. You have four very large fleets, including mine (I send two :D) heading towards your waters. We WILL demilitrize your nation.

Artitsa! Your navy is going down to the botton if you come near my shores! Oh wait, I'll just ignore this because I never heard about you and have no reasons to attack me.

Artitsa! Your navy is going down to the botton if you come near my shores! Oh wait, I'll just ignore this because I never heard about you and have no reasons to attack me.
So you just ignore anyone attacking you as a result of your acitons against creodnia? Credonia sohuld just ignore you.

HP, don't ignore them. Sink them. TG in the mail.

Perhaps I should explain it to you because you obviously lack the knowledge. We have nothing to do with each other. Suddenly he comes saying he's going to attack me. No reason, no motive. Same with alleana. He fired a shitload of missiles without a reason. I have the right to ignore it. Creddo did the same in the previous attack because he was outnumbered while we had a perfect reason to attack him.

No reason? If someone is an ally of credonia and you are at war with credonia, then that is your reason.

No, in the thread we declared our support for Credonia, and you are an aggressor towards MY ALLY CREDONIA. Simple as that. Therefor I knock you out of the war and Credonia has some pressure taken off of him.

Like I said, sink the enemy fleets.

Also, could all you people invading HP point me to a stats thread? I would like to know what sort of plan is required.

Nuevo Kowloon, what did you do when I was threatened with attack by Macabees? Nothing. You call yourself a coalition member, yet when a fellow member was in need, you hesistated. What if he would have attacked! Same with you Central Facehuggeria.

Now, for all those who are allies of Macabees, you think that us, the Coalition members are trying to wage war!?! Not true. I was upright threatened that if I didnt back down my defense for a fellow regioner (Aust), that I would be attacked and destroyed.

This is what I will not stand for.

I am mobilizing five large Battlegroups along with Wazican's and Moontian's, to make sure and such threats in the future can be dealt with. After all, all I am doing here is defended Aust, Im not attacking Credonia, or any of his allies. Just defending.

OOC: I will participate in negotiations, but a defense fleet of substantial size will remain just inside Dancing Moose's territorial waters.

Same with you Central Facehuggeria.

IC: If we had any major naval assets, we would have. However, Central Facehuggeria is primarily a land and space based military force. If they had invaded you with ground troops, we would have sent several legions (200,000 troopers each) to assist you. As it stands, until the fighting moves onto a land based theater, we cannot provide much support.

Alright, thats understandable. But as it were, I was directing that more at Nuevo Kowloon.

Negotitions will begin in 5 min (12:55 PM EST)

By the way artitty I don't have a shore. If you want to attack then you have to cross 900 KM of swamps, mountains and tropical jungle to get me. Take yer best shot.

900km... wow ok, I'll use my 1200km range AS-19's. Oh and take a look at a map, you realize how far 900km is right? Way to not have any cities on solid ground. Either that, or your the size of antartica, and even then you'd have a pretty small area with the swamps.

NEGOTITAIONS HAVE BEGUN!

Nuevo Kowloon, what did you do when I was threatened with attack by Macabees? Nothing. You call yourself a coalition member, yet when a fellow member was in need, you hesistated. What if he would have attacked! Same with you Central Facehuggeria.

Now, for all those who are allies of Macabees, you think that us, the Coalition members are trying to wage war!?! Not true. I was upright threatened that if I didnt back down my defense for a fellow regioner (Aust), that I would be attacked and destroyed.

This is what I will not stand for.

I am mobilizing five large Battlegroups along with Wazican's and Moontian's, to make sure and such threats in the future can be dealt with. After all, all I am doing here is defended Aust, Im not attacking Credonia, or any of his allies. Just defending.

OOC: I will participate in negotiations, but a defense fleet of substantial size will remain just inside Dancing Moose's territorial waters.

Hmmm... We didn't shoot, but by the time the threat was within range of you, he'd backed down, and we were in place to do something if he started. We're interested in keeping the peace, Dancing Moose. IF you are attacked, we'll act against your attackers.

Secondly, We're not a Coalition Member. Our involvement with this conflict stems from a direct diplomatic and military set of agreements with AUST, and a basic concern that their problem is going to turn into a multinational bloodbath that affects us. (not too hard to figure out-guess who's been our main trading partner-yup, Aust... we've even been accused of being Aust's Client...) We took risks to bring pressure to bear on the Macabees to turn them away from you.

[ooc-telegrams and promises made. this situation's costing a lot!] Examine our statements- "Hold back", "Wait", "Look at the whole situation".
We've been trying like hell to keep the shot from being fired that will kill yet more people, INCLUDING YOUR PEOPLE.

"Nothing" is clearly in the eye of the beholder.

OOC: You havent been trying that hard, becuase if he wanted to kill innocent Moosians he could have, and nobody would have been there to help me stop him (god knows I would need help...)

IC: Also, it wasent he who backed down, it was me. If I hadnt have backed down, I seriously doubt you would have done much (im not trying to make false accusations, im just pulling that from your actions after the threat was made).

IC: Also, it wasent he who backed down, it was me. If I hadnt have backed down, I seriously doubt you would have done much (im not trying to make false accusations, im just pulling that from your actions after the threat was made).

we've got 5 (count 'em 5) total carrier groups in our navy, it's over 3000 miles from our country to yours straight-line across the equator. We've sent two-fifths of everything we own that can float and shoot. One fifth of that was parked between Macabee's arrival, and yours. He bumped into us after you'd declared Neutrality, but he wasn't shooting when he arrived. If he had been, we'd have been obliged to...well... get slaughtered stopping him, probably, since we were sitting out in international waters. (NKS Saigon group)

We've got one Carrier group in the mediterranean, one in heavy repair, and one left to maintain our own defense at home.
If you think I'll just shoot if the guy's going to turn and hold back, you're nuts, it will take weeks to get someone else out there for us.

As soon as our Coup is finished and over with, Macabees - you have the full support of the Nation Of Hogsweat

OOC- Just dont go sending me on any stealth missions - remember what happened last time Poland (me) Did a stealth mission on WWX?

Understood, and I feel obliged to offer you a place with my battlesquadrons in Dancing Moose Territorial waters if you wish, there your crew will be fed and oil tanks filled for no charge.

I cannont and will not stand for fellow Antarcticans and SAND members to be pushed around like this. Therefor all reserve naval craft will be pushed into active duty. The Great White Fleet of Wazican will be stationed in Dancing Moose waters, and the 2nd and 3rd fleets will be stationed in allied Aust waters. All other naval craft will be defending Wazican. If any nation attacks any other nation in Antarctica we will fight to the death alongside our allies. We honor our alliances.

Understood, and I feel obliged to offer you a place with my battlesquadrons in Dancing Moose Territorial waters if you wish, there your crew will be fed and oil tanks filled for no charge.

Thank you for your generous offer, but we have orders to remain outside-in international waters.

[sideband message sent to Dancing Moose, probably intercepted by every array belonging to any fleet in the region...]
"The diplomats we sent to Keyshona's Peace-talks was attacked by forces unknown, there's been another poison gas attack targeting our civilians, and the Chancellor's having problems getting the Austian Ambassador to publicly state what she knows. We've been told to pull back to 250 miles and stand by to withdraw from the area. it's being argued, but things don't look good right now."

While a large portion of Moontian's fleet is engaged with SAND dutes, another 14 fleets have put to sea to deter any opposing navy, while the SBR net continues to send data to all Antarctican vessels.

No, in the thread we declared our support for Credonia, and you are an aggressor towards MY ALLY CREDONIA. Simple as that. Therefor I knock you out of the war and Credonia has some pressure taken off of him.

Dont you worry about HP... I want him for later...

Gentlemen peace has assumed between Credonia and HP, I hope this peace can extend to this conflict. And prevent bloodshed.

Message sent to Dancing Moose and Wazican...

To: SAND Nations Wazican and Dancing Moose

From: Chancellor's Office, Nuevo Kowloon

Re:
Didn't we warn you? Ten minutes ago, Mister Palpatine announced the death of the Austian Emperor, and his own accession to the throne.
If you recall, we did tell you, some three days ago, that he would blame the death on "Enemies" and mount a rallying cry to solidify his position.
We'll be available if you want to talk.
We intend to wait. If a member of the Legitimate ruling family steps forward, we will support them, in the absence of such, we shall withdraw, and leave your region to the hell that is coming.

The President has been notified of the development between Holy Panooly, and Credonia...

Just as a question when where you planning to tell me about this? I only found out about 5 mins ago because of Dancing Moose.

Aust is a land locked nation. To get to me you must fly over my allys. Past my considrable air defences. (I pump about 3/5 of my millatary buget into planes.) Past my orbital Anti missile/Air defences. Paratroopsinto my country onto a patch of reasonably flat ground. Aust is also very mountainus. near one of the three main populaton centers. (Aust city has a pop of 987 million. The other 4 citys a combinded pop of 1023 million. Anywhere else and you would desturb a few sheep and it wouldn't take long for my armed forces that are 12 million strong to get to you. In short it is almost impossable. Come on do your worst. And just so I don't get accused of GODMODing the Orbital defences fire missiles that destroy up to 200 missiles at a time. I share these with SAND and SLOA. They where built by the Coalition of Honour.

Just as a question when where you planning to tell me about this? I only found out about 5 mins ago because of Dancing Moose.

Aust is a land locked nation. To get to me you must fly over my allys. Past my considrable air defences. (I pump about 3/5 of my millatary buget into planes.) Past my orbital Anti missile/Air defences. Paratroopsinto my country onto a patch of reasonably flat ground. Aust is also very mountainus. near one of the three main populaton centers. (Aust city has a pop of 987 million. The other 4 citys a combinded pop of 1023 million. Anywhere else and you would desturb a few sheep and it wouldn't take long for my armed forces that are 12 million strong to get to you. In short it is almost impossable. Come on do your worst. And just so I don't get accused of GODMODing the Orbital defences fire missiles that destroy up to 200 missiles at a time. I share these with SAND and SLOA. They where built by the Coalition of Honour.

Moontian's SBR array continues to provide data for SAND. No actual encounters with ships have been reported at sea level yet, but a destroyer associated with MNS Vampire is within 30 nautical miles of an unidentified ship, within Antarctic waters.

Thank you Moontain