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As of right now, the Bisonic navy is sailing towards Holy Panoly, to pulverize it and teach it a lesson or two. The navy is made up of:

-14 Yekaterinburg class carriers
-6 Ulyanovsk class carriers
-6 Kiev class carriers
-20 Soyuz III missile battleships
-10 Mikhail II battlecurisers
-15 Kirov heavy cruisers
-10 Slava-M cruisers
-54 Sovremenny class destroyers
-18 Tikhiy class destroyers
-53 Udaloy II class frigates
-14 Udaloy class frigates
-18 TAMDS air defense ships
-76 Oscar 3 SSNs

There are also tens of various amphibious warfare ships. Have a nice day.

Why are you going to war with Holy Panooly?

We support this notion, but frankly feel we are too small to get involved in a war that involves superpowers.

This fleet will be accompanied by:

10 Yekaterinburg-class carriers (carrying 1,000 SU-34 planes),

40 Nanuchka-IV frigates

and 4 SSBN's.

Im going to war because hes a bit arrogant in international wars, and I will support my ally allanea.

We support you Bisons. We will send the following to accompany your fleet:



12 Carriers
40 DDs
80 Frigates
20 Cruisers
25 AAS
48 Virginia SSNs
24 Seawolf SSNs
6 Ohio SSBNs

Oh. You are going to war with him because he recognized when one of your allies godmoded a cruise missile salvo attacking him from the opposite side of the planet with no provocation other than that HP doesn't like Credonia. Mm hmm. That's a very good reason.

Iron blood thanks its allies Matich and Allanea for their help.

Oh. You are going to war with him because he recognized when one of your allies godmoded a cruise missile salvo attacking him from the opposite side of the planet with no provocation other than that HP doesn't like Credonia. Mm hmm. That's a very good reason.
No Im pulverizing him because I hate people who put their noses where they dont belong. I was supporting credonia before allanea attacked him.

So you are against those who are concerned about what is going on around them. Huh. That's a new one.

Transport planes containing hundreds of missiles and plenty of weaponry have been shipped to Holy Panoly, to help it resist the Iron Blood invasion. We wish them luck, and if the leader requires it, our nation will offer refuge to him/her, as we have done to all oppressed peoples throughout our history.

EI Politburo

So you are against those who are concerned about what is going on around them. Huh. That's a new one.The liquificaiton of imperialist swines is one of my hobbies.

OOC: I can name a number of reasonable In Character reasons that could be used... afterall, Iron Blood and Allanea are allied to Credonia and Holy Panooly is joining in on a conflict against Credonia... what more, attacks have been made against Credonia by Holy Panooly (and visa versa) so it could easily be explaned as "the last straw" scenario...

However, it would at least look better if they actually RPed these reasons when declaring war so that people don't question it... no one wants to enter a war with a nation that will just end up ignoring them or visa versa and many wars fall apart because people can't be assed with some basic RP that doesn't just include the posting of stats and a one line description of what they are doing...

So you are against those who are concerned about what is going on around them. Huh. That's a new one.The liquificaiton of imperialist swines is one of my hobbies.
This coming from an ally of Credonia, who's flag shows up in the dictionary when you look up imperialist. HP, however, has taken no agressive military action for as long as I've been around. Are you sure you are on the right side?

Oh. You are going to war with him because he recognized when one of your allies godmoded a cruise missile salvo attacking him from the opposite side of the planet with no provocation other than that HP doesn't like Credonia. Mm hmm. That's a very good reason.


A)I did not "godmod" a cruise missile strike, I simply didn't know how far he was.

B) It's not the HP doesn't LIKE Credonia. It's that they committed an act of aggression.

Consul Marco de Dietrich and Consul Tullius de Mercator-Cicero appear on the screen

"Fellow citizens of Girith Daan! The Bisonic navy has made a substantial provocation towards Holy Panoly. The Governemnt of the Republic has declared the state of emergency and has asked the Senate and the People's Counsil for an declaration of War. Both insitutes have approved of the decision of the Government of the Republic. War has been declared by GD and here allies upon Bisonia(iron blood) and the British Communists.

The GDN, our navy has been despatched to block any advances by these foreign hordes who do not respect the rule of law. We will destroy them, may there e no doubt about that.
The fleet consists of 23 Iuppiter-classe aircraftcarriers, 26 Mars-classe submarines, armed with nucleair weapons, wich will be deployed if necessary, 100 Amsterdam-classe destroyers and 400 Minerva classe battleships.

The airforce has been ordered to bomb the capital of British Communists in order to pave the way for a total invasion. In a few minutes time, bombes will rain on the cities, military installations and government buildings of that country.

Both countries have the opportunity to back down and save themselves from destruction.


The Capitoline Guard, our elite force of 200000 highly trained soldiers has been dispatched and awaits airlifting by the airforce towards the Bisonic capital. The military chiefs of staf have decided that their second city is to be attacked by heavy bombing, effectively pulverizing it's industry and army base.

Consul Marco de Dietrich and Consul Tullius de Mercator-Cicero appear on the screen

"Fellow citizens of Girith Daan! The Bisonic navy has made a substantial provocation towards Holy Panoly. The Governemnt of the Republic has declared the state of emergency and has asked the Senate and the People's Counsil for an declaration of War. Both insitutes have approved of the decision of the Government of the Republic. War has been declared by GD and here allies upon Bisonia(iron blood) and the British Communists.

The GDN, our navy has been despatched to block any advances by these foreign hordes who do not respect the rule of law. We will destroy them, may there e no doubt about that.
The fleet consists of 23 Iuppiter-classe aircraftcarriers, 26 Mars-classe submarines, armed with nucleair weapons, wich will be deployed if necessary, 100 Amsterdam-classe destroyers and 400 Minerva classe battleships.

The airforce has been ordered to bomb the capital of British Communists in order to pave the way for a total invasion. In a few minutes time, bombes will rain on the cities, military installations and government buildings of that country.

Both countries have the opportunity to back down and save themselves from destruction.


The Capitoline Guard, our elite force of 200000 highly trained soldiers has been dispatched and awaits airlifting by the airforce towards the Bisonic capital. The military chiefs of staf have decided that their second city is to be attacked by heavy bombing, effectively pulverizing it's industry and army base.

Oh. You are going to war with him because he recognized when one of your allies godmoded a cruise missile salvo attacking him from the opposite side of the planet with no provocation other than that HP doesn't like Credonia. Mm hmm. That's a very good reason.


A)I did not "godmod" a cruise missile strike, I simply didn't know how far he was.

B) It's not the HP doesn't LIKE Credonia. It's that they committed an act of aggression.

A) I'll admit that was bad word choice on my part, but

B) Half of NS is making an act of agression against Credonia. HP was just the one who made the forum, and made it clear he did so on behalf of Aust.

So you are against those who are concerned about what is going on around them. Huh. That's a new one.


There have been countless times where HP has said "Shut up, or i'll bomb you" or things to that matter, and personally, i was waiting for someone to do this sooner or later. HP acts as if he is the most powerful nation that has a right to stick his nose in any conflict he chooses. He continuously threatens nations that are smaller than him also. I support this action.

I love hypocrisy.

For instance, to my government on NS, the USA is an imperialist swine, while say Syria is a democratic peoples republic.

I love hypocrisy.

For instance, to my government on NS, the USA is an imperialist swine, while say Syria is a democratic peoples republic.

You're trailing off. Trying to avoid my previous post, or what?

B) Half of NS is making an act of agression against Credonia. HP was just the one who made the forum, and made it clear he did so on behalf of Aust.

OOC: This doesn't mean that he can't attack Holy Panolly. He has the reason, just because other provide a good target doesn't meen he has to bother with them... if he wasn't to attack Holy Panooly for the stated reasons (all valid) then he may do so.

Artitsa is moving the following in support of Bisons

8 Yekaterinburg class carriers
12 Ulyanovsk class carriers
8 Medvjed Heavy Missile Battleships (they will set up a screen to prevent reinforcing nations navies from interfering.)
4 Scala Class Battleships
18 Oladsky Cruisers
6 Mikhail Cruisers
24 Korsar Frigates
38 Lutjens Destroyers
60 EA-100 Missile boats
And finally, 12 TAMDs (Theatre Air/Missile Defence ships)

Carrier Payload:
Yakinterinburg Class - 110 Aircraft
[40] JF-20BK's
[48] J-40K's
[8] A-50 AWACs
[4] P-3 Maritime Patrol Aircraft
[10] JF-2000's
Ulyanask Class - 75 Aircraft
[24] JF-20BK's
[24] J-40K's
[4] A-50 AWACs
[4] P-3 Maritime Patrol Aircraft
[15] JF-2000's

Secretly:
10 Oscar IV's
8 Wolverine Fast Attack SSN's
12 Sea Hawk Long Range Patrol SSN's
6 Jaeger SSN's
4 Tagonrog Land Attack Subs
4 Borei SSBN's.

This fleet is to intercept any inbound international support, as all Submarines have Surface to Air missiles. They all left port some time ago, just before the Bisonic leader declared his actions. Thus they will arrive at their destination shortly.

OOC: However, it would at least look better if they actually RPed these reasons when declaring war so that people don't question it... no one wants to enter a war with a nation that will just end up ignoring them or visa versa and many wars fall apart because people can't be assed with some basic RP that doesn't just include the posting of stats and a one line description of what they are doing...

Most warmongers on NS aren't interested in RP - they just get off on posting the size of their armies.

I don't even keep a stat on how big my army is. Why, because I have the military knowledge of a lima bean.

Meanwhile, we'll still be joining to help out Bisons.

Here's my military...

Uh, anyone want to make something up for me?

Oh the irony, you hate Credonina for its imperialistic ways, but you're going to invae me because I said I supported the move, only in words. That makes me laugh. If a single bomb falls on my city, my allies will reign fire on you. I will be happy to nuke you :)

OOC: I know the sterotype but I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt... personally I will not bother with an war RP against my nation unless the nation in question understands that NS isn't about winning, but about telling a story... I don't care for 400+ battleship uber-wank posts (I'm not refering to this thread) and I wouldn't hesitate to ignore them.


British Communists... you know you, Communist Louisiana and the other invaded someone basically because you wanted to show them they shouldn't declare war on larger nations...

Well this situation is pretty much the same. If you get involved without a good reason they will probably pommel you into the ground as all the nations offering assistance to Iron Lords and Allanea are very large and can afford good anti-ICBM systems... meanwhile their nuclear weapon stock piles will make Credonia's look like a joke.

Don't get cocky... these people invaded cocky people. Trust me on this.

Oh the irony, you hate Credonina for its imperialistic ways, but you're going to invae me because I said I supported the move, only in words. That makes me laugh. If a single bomb falls on my city, my allies will reign fire on you. I will be happy to nuke you :)

A nuclear retaliation to a conventional attack is not acceptable to most NS nations. Such an action by your country would be very foolhardy indeed.

The Imperial Naval Republic of Unum Veritas shall remain neutral in this conflict until such time as it figures out what the heck is going on with the entire Credonia situation.

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Oh the irony, you hate Credonina for its imperialistic ways, but you're going to invae me because I said I supported the move, only in words. That makes me laugh. If a single bomb falls on my city, my allies will reign fire on you. I will be happy to nuke you :)
Once holy panoly is liquidated I will come to your aid as well.

I would only nuke them because they're ready to stoop so low as too attack me for supporting somebody with words.

I would only nuke them because they're ready to stoop so low as too attack me for supporting somebody with words.

Sounds harsh, but tough luck. Expressing support, even with only words, is the same as endorsing that nation's actions and thus, you are just as liable for them as they are. Don't be so quick to support others.

Oh the irony, you hate Credonina for its imperialistic ways, but you're going to invae me because I said I supported the move, only in words. That makes me laugh. If a single bomb falls on my city, my allies will reign fire on you. I will be happy to nuke you :)
Once holy panoly is liquidated I will come to your aid as well.If I must I will help too. Lets jsut hope it doesnt come to that.

Thanks for your support Iron Blood and AZK. Pattriot missle systems are currently being retracted from their underground holes, and AA guns are being bought in from places where they can be spared. All branches of the military have been put on high alert for an impending invasion. Citizens hav ebeen given gas masks, and there is a wave of patriotism, as the army recruiting offices have been flung open, and people are signing up to to do their bit to fend off the invaders.

Oh the irony, you hate Credonina for its imperialistic ways, but you're going to invae me because I said I supported the move, only in words. That makes me laugh. If a single bomb falls on my city, my allies will reign fire on you. I will be happy to nuke you :)
Once holy panoly is liquidated I will come to your aid as well.If I must I will help too. Lets jsut hope it doesnt come to that.
You're joking, right? You actually support these guys?

Consul Marco de Dietrich and Consul Tullius de Mercator-Cicero appear on the screen

"Fellow citizens of Girith Daan! The Bisonic navy has made a substantial provocation towards Holy Panoly. The Governemnt of the Republic has declared the state of emergency and has asked the Senate and the People's Counsil for an declaration of War. Both insitutes have approved of the decision of the Government of the Republic. War has been declared by GD and here allies upon Bisonia(iron blood) and the British Communists.

The GDN, our navy has been despatched to block any advances by these foreign hordes who do not respect the rule of law. We will destroy them, may there e no doubt about that.
The fleet consists of 23 Iuppiter-classe aircraftcarriers, 26 Mars-classe submarines, armed with nucleair weapons, wich will be deployed if necessary, 100 Amsterdam-classe destroyers and 400 Minerva classe battleships.

The airforce has been ordered to bomb the capital of British Communists in order to pave the way for a total invasion. In a few minutes time, bombes will rain on the cities, military installations and government buildings of that country.

Both countries have the opportunity to back down and save themselves from destruction.


The Capitoline Guard, our elite force of 200000 highly trained soldiers has been dispatched and awaits airlifting by the airforce towards the Bisonic capital. The military chiefs of staf have decided that their second city is to be attacked by heavy bombing, effectively pulverizing it's industry and army base.

Your use of Nuclear arms is perplexing, thus, if you choose to use them, our 20,000 Nuclear ICBM's - 10 MIRV's each will be forced to glass your nation. Also in order to attack Bisonic land, you must pass through Artitsa, and I assure you it is not easy. If you DO attack us, I assure you the retribution will be swift and massive. Lets just say Genocide isn't a big enough word to sum up what we will do.

ooc: For a nation your size you have an aweful lot of soldiers and the likes. But then again, Cardboard is pretty cheap to make. Tone down your numbers or be ignored. Or, you can provide proof that your 200 Million population nation has more surface ships then a highly industrialized, militarized, and heavily populated 1.4 Billion nation.

Oh the irony, you hate Credonina for its imperialistic ways, but you're going to invae me because I said I supported the move, only in words. That makes me laugh. If a single bomb falls on my city, my allies will reign fire on you. I will be happy to nuke you :)
Once holy panoly is liquidated I will come to your aid as well.If I must I will help too. Lets jsut hope it doesnt come to that.
You're joking, right? You actually support these guys? I should have posted that at the Unforgiven forum, I support communism....

I have authorized civillian landings in the Island of Thistine in my nation. I have also have support for landings in an undecesided location in Masadona. I will bring humanitarian aid as well.

Oh the irony, you hate Credonina for its imperialistic ways, but you're going to invae me because I said I supported the move, only in words. That makes me laugh. If a single bomb falls on my city, my allies will reign fire on you. I will be happy to nuke you :)
Once holy panoly is liquidated I will come to your aid as well.If I must I will help too. Lets jsut hope it doesnt come to that.
You're joking, right? You actually support these guys? I should have posted that at the Unforgiven forum, I support communism....
I'm more mad that your supporting people who are at war with membersof our region in another thread.

Oh the irony, you hate Credonina for its imperialistic ways, but you're going to invae me because I said I supported the move, only in words. That makes me laugh. If a single bomb falls on my city, my allies will reign fire on you. I will be happy to nuke you :)
Once holy panoly is liquidated I will come to your aid as well.If I must I will help too. Lets jsut hope it doesnt come to that.
You're joking, right? You actually support these guys? I should have posted that at the Unforgiven forum, I support communism....
I'm more mad that your supporting people who are at war with membersof our region in another thread.Who I am supporting British communists, who supports who ever, who I dont suppport. I am allied with BC so I almsot have to help him...

I love hypocrisy.

For instance, to my government on NS, the USA is an imperialist swine, while say Syria is a democratic peoples republic.

errr and your point is. In this situation HP is the Syria and Credonia is USA by your statement you should invade Credy

Oh the irony, you hate Credonina for its imperialistic ways, but you're going to invae me because I said I supported the move, only in words. That makes me laugh. If a single bomb falls on my city, my allies will reign fire on you. I will be happy to nuke you :)
Once holy panoly is liquidated I will come to your aid as well.If I must I will help too. Lets jsut hope it doesnt come to that.
You're joking, right? You actually support these guys? I should have posted that at the Unforgiven forum, I support communism....
I'm more mad that your supporting people who are at war with membersof our region in another thread.Who I am supporting British communists, who supports who ever, who I dont suppport. I am allied with BC so I almsot have to help him...

BC we ask permission to send the 5th MEF and the 7th Air Force to help protect your nation.


5th MEF
180,000 Marines


7th Air Force
300 F22s
300 F35s
120 A10s
60 KC 135 Refuelers

Iron Blood. Half my home defence fleet is in HP waters.
They out number you seven to one.
Already HMS Destort has fired shot across your bow warning you of what you up against.

Before you attack, think about you loss of life. Remember it's not just my fleet in HP waters, it's his fleet, Huzen Hagen and Aust.

Matich, the help is very well recieved. Pleae being moving your forces, we will contact you via secure satellite phone during transit, to give you a safe point to disembark. Thank you very much for your support, my people are forever thankful.

Stevid, we recommend backing down or face the destruction of your home defence fleet. If not, we will destroy that half, then travel to your waters and destroy the second half. We have more then enough AM-96K Anti-Shipping missiles to deal with your navy.

ooc: Just out of curiosity, how big is your navy, if you can out number Iron Blood by 7v1... seeing how thats only half your navy.

OOC:
Girth-daan: ignored outright. 400 battleships? Uhmm no.
Sten- yeah OK you outnumber me 7 to 1 if you have some ww1 era torpedo boats.

Bumpity bump. The allied fleets should be getting close to HP.

IC: Your 'allied fleets' are not invlunerable. Remember this.

IC: Your 'allied fleets' are not invlunerable. Remember this.
OOC:
They are about as close to invulnerable as you can get.

First a couple of facts-

There are AWACS and CAP's over the fleets. You do not get within 120km and launch a Harpoon!

There are enough ASW helos to make sure thaty you do not torpedo anything!

And finally enemy shipping will be engaged as soon as it comes within 500km.

IC: Your 'allied fleets' are not invlunerable. Remember this.
OOC:
They are about as close to invulnerable as you can get.

First a couple of facts-

There are AWACS and CAP's over the fleets. You do not get within 120km and launch a Harpoon!

There are enough ASW helos to make sure thaty you do not torpedo anything!

And finally enemy shipping will be engaged as soon as it comes within 500km.

OOC: They are not invlunerable. I'm not referring to Harpoons or other anti-ship missiles. Hopefully HP will take my advice and unignore all your fleets.

OOC:
They are not invlunerable, no. But not too far from it.

ic:
You will find that our TAMD's make our fleets quite nicely "invulnerable" to all forms of attack. Thank you have a nice day.

AWACs aircraft circle high above the fleet looking for any signatures on radar. Their systems were heavily upgraded to have 3D and look down radar's. Very good for spotting "stealth" aircraft along with regulary aircraft and fleets out to a range of about 1200km. If a hostile ship comes within 800km of the fleet, it will be engaged by the AM-96K anti-shipping missile.

ooc: A very sexy anti-shipping missile I must say.

OOC:
Cardboard missile? :lol:

Oh, and to prevent mines or frogmen from bothering me there are trained dolphins and sharks around the fleet. K?

OOC:
Cardboard missile? :lol:

Oh, and to prevent mines or frogmen from bothering me there are trained dolphins and sharks around the fleet. K?

OOC: Artitsa, I am not refering to stealth aircraft nor torpedos nor anti-ship missiles. You'll just have to wait and see if HP unignores your fleet. I hope he will, because it will be really entertaining.

Also, Iron blood, you cannot train sharks. Funny defense though. :)

All Veritasean convoys in the area shall travel with destroyer escort. Should any UV flagship be fired upon, it will be viewed as a direct attack against the Veritasean homeland and we will respond accordingly. No UV ship will take aggressive action towards another nation's vessel; however they are authorized to fire in defense. We seek only to protect our shipping lanes; however we will not accept the loss of a single ship to enemy fire be it on purpose or accidental. Please think before you shoot.

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After a long debate about the Credonian crisis, it was decided that the Empire will join in on the side of Credonia. However, no ground troops will be deployed unless in the utmost need.


Ships deployed:

Aircraft Carriers
20 Lunar Class (bought from Corporate States of Doujin)

Surface Warfare Ships

40 CG-47
50 Thatcher-class Destroyer
100 FFG-7
20 Mackenson class battleships

Submarines

80 SSN-637 Sturgean Class
160 LA Class
60 SSN-21Sea Wolf
40 SSBN-726 Ohio Class
60 SS-01

The Grand Imperial Fleet has set a course for a little ways away from the Bisonic navy (far enough so that any nuclear retaliation would not destroy both navies), and has began the launch of the new HiStrike cruise missles
(hypersonic cruise missles) at the enemy fleet, concentrating on enemy carriers.

Also, the 16 HyperSoar bombers have dropped thier now (somewhat) famous one ton gravity bombs on the HP fleet.

OOC-Can anyone give me a short summary of the Credonia situation so that I can decide if I want to get involved or not?

OOC-Can anyone give me a short summary of the Credonia situation so that I can decide if I want to get involved or not?
OOC:
Aust has a civil war, Credonia helps the guy trying to voerthrow the current regime. Bunch of people attack credonia. Credonias supporters decided to liquify HP.

If your ships get within say 300km f my fleet they will be fired upon (300km is the range of a tomahawk?)

1104 km is the range of the standard tomahawk.

1104 km is the range of the standard tomahawk.
OOC:
Thats the land attack version, not the anti ship version.

Ah, but the HiStrike missle has the same range as the tomahawk land attack version and is sea based, 9and it exists in RL) so within that range is when they can be hit.

OOC:
Sea based just means its launched from sea. Now that its an anti ship missile :roll:

OOC-Can anyone give me a short summary of the Credonia situation so that I can decide if I want to get involved or not?
OOC:
Aust has a civil war, Credonia helps the guy trying to voerthrow the current regime. Bunch of people attack credonia. Credonias supporters decided to liquify HP.

If your ships get within say 300km f my fleet they will be fired upon (300km is the range of a tomahawk?)

And whose side are you on?

My ships will remain in standard merchant shipping channels, be that 300km or not. They will make no aggressive moves, and the destroyers will keep the merchant vessels between them and your ships to make sure you don't think they are being aggressive.

UV, your merchant vessels are safe to move by our fleet, we have no hostlities with you, and count you as a close friend. Remember when we defended you from Phyrric or whoever it was?

We will not fire unless fired upon...if we are fired upon the UV fleet shall be liquidated.

I am on Credonias side.

hahaha this will be damn fun. All your ships are going to the bottom. Luckily I have a few tricks up my sleeve.

If you want to attack me, sure. But here are MY rules:

Iron Blood, I know you love unsinkable ships but that's impossible. When I fire 100 missiles and only 1 or 2 hit then you can forget your nice little war. Allene-whatever, I'm ignoring you completely. I haven't forgotten your lame attempt at trying to fly countless missiles at me. Learn to RP and then we'll make war. The rest can have fun.

UV, your merchant vessels are safe to move by our fleet, we have no hostlities with you, and count you as a close friend. Remember when we defended you from Phyrric or whoever it was?

Yes, you are counted as a friend as well.

Iron Blood/Bisons/DT/etc.... Is liquidated your new favorite word? :wink:

Rest assured that there will be no offensive actions originating from a Veritasean ship.

On a side note, I got other nations in my region from a few friends who got tired of looking at the same issues again and again. Add their population and their money to my and then I'm ready. Call them puppets if you like but I ain't using them in this RP.

UV, your merchant vessels are safe to move by our fleet, we have no hostlities with you, and count you as a close friend. Remember when we defended you from Phyrric or whoever it was?

Yes, you are counted as a friend as well.

Iron Blood/Bisons/DT/etc.... Is liquidated your new favorite word? :wink:

Rest assured that there will be no offensive actions originating from a Veritasean ship.
American newspaper says: Dangerous people neutralized
Russian newspaper says: Degenerates Liquidated
:D

HP, if you fire 1000 1950's missiles at me, only 2 will hit and even thats generous. It depends on what missiles you use.

The Holy Panoly navy should already be at the bottom. One ton of tungsten falling from beyond the atmosphere really does hurt-you have 16 falling at you. once they hit the ocean at the ridiculous speeds they wil be going at, it will essentialy be a large tidal wave of doom.

Im going to war because hes a bit arrogant in international wars, and I will support my ally allanea.

You really are braindead. I'm not at war with Allanea. He godmodded an attack at me and you acknowledge the attack? Everyone including Allanea knew it wasn't RP'ed good. I haven't done anything to him. If you post an attack against me because I posted the war thread on behalf of Aust then you really are a worthless rper.
Besides, me and Credonia have this conflict since the war with the HLF. How and why everything happened is a long story but believe you me, you have nothing to do with this.

On a side note, I got other nations in my region from a few friends who got tired of looking at the same issues again and again. Add their population and their money to my and then I'm ready. Call them puppets if you like but I ain't using them in this RP.

If you really wanna do that...
I have my friends nation that was created at the same time as mine.. so you can double my pop and military. Plus I have two younger ones from friends who lost interest. Too bad their both September nations...

Err... slightly counterproductive, doesnt it sink our fleets as well? :lol: :roll:

4 billion nations vs a 600 million nation and you say I don't have the right to do it? shame on you it's still 4 to 1 then.

4 billion nations vs a 600 million nation and you say I don't have the right to do it? shame on you.
I have a 2 billion puppet new bisons. You want to use puppets?

I dont think it sinks our fleets if we are at a safe range-I assume we are at a safe range.

*has an idea* Why don't you all quit bickering about little details and just freakin RP? If everyone spent as much time working on the storyline of the RP as they do on arguing over little details then NS would be ten times better than it is.

I'm using their money and some resources. I hope it's allowed Mr Know-It-All... Doesn't matter what I say I'm talking to a wall right here.

I'm using their money and some resources. I hope it's allowed Mr Know-It-All... Doesn't matter what I say I'm talking to a wall right here.
Alright, Im using new bisons resources where necssary.

As for RPing- well, try to attack my fleet. But kindly post moving into range before firing 386459287345685 missiles.

*has an idea* Why don't you all quit bickering about little details and just freakin RP? If everyone spent as much time working on the storyline of the RP as they do on arguing over little details then NS would be ten times better than it is.

THERE IS NO STORY, CLUE, POINT, MORALE WHATSOEVER. they're just fucking pissed and love picking on smaller nations. That's all.

We implore that our ally, High Chancellor Sparrow of the Naval Republic of Unum Veritas remains neutral in this affair due to the complex nature of this whole mess... so far we have assertained that neither side is entirely clear of fault for the upcoming conflicts as they all seem to have screwed on another over at one point, with the exception of Iron Blood who is new to the Credonia/Aust/Holy Panooly mess but is sticking with the basic idea of alliance with Credonia.

The point is that Credonia has acted in agression, Aust cuased the aggression by killing Credonian's and Holy Panooly has previous ly been agressive towards Credonia and visa versa... making this whole thing a time bomb of an affair. Aust has supported Credonia in the past more so then he has supported Holy Panooly and now that Aust is against Credonia, Holy Panooly is working with them.

So if you can make sense of it all it seems to suggest that this is highly unpredictable and can take any twist at any time. We would prefer that our allies do not get caught in the conflict and leave all factions to their own vices...

Best to just watch and make judgements on nations according to their actions in this mess so we can learn more about their methods and morality.

Thanks,

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And can you explain this 900km Swamp you speak of? Keeping in mind we all have 1200+ Km land attack missiles..

I'm using their money and some resources. I hope it's allowed Mr Know-It-All... Doesn't matter what I say I'm talking to a wall right here.
Alright, Im using new bisons resources where necssary.

As for RPing- well, try to attack my fleet. But kindly post moving into range before firing 386459287345685 missiles.

First of all, you are stupid. A more than 1 billion nation who needs other resources? Go take a hike. I don't have to move into range when I have 10,000 KM missiles.

And can you explain this 900km Swamp you speak of? Keeping in mind we all have 1200+ Km land attack missiles..

When you want to invade with infantry and tanks you'll have to cross 900 KM or mountains, swamps and other annoying types of soil.

OOC:
10,000 KM misisles? Yeah ok ICBMs arent accurate enough to hit ships unless you use nukes in which case Ill glass you 50 times over.

Im attacking you because you had the bad luck to post several topics about attacking credonia, who I support. Now you can enjoy the consequences.

OOC:
10,000 KM misisles? Yeah ok ICBMs arent accurate enough to hit ships unless you use nukes in which case Ill glass you 50 times over.

Im attacking you because you had the bad luck to post several topics about attacking credonia, who I support. Now you can enjoy the consequences.

THE POST TO END ALL OTHER POSTS ON THIS GODAWFUL SLOW FORUM!
Because I posted several topics about Creddy you attack me? Finally a good reason to ignore your pathetic posts.

IGNORED

And can you explain this 900km Swamp you speak of? Keeping in mind we all have 1200+ Km land attack missiles..

When you want to invade with infantry and tanks you'll have to cross 900 KM or mountains, swamps and other annoying types of soil.
Yeah... I never had plans for a ground invasion... just pummel you with Land attack missiles.

Oh, and if you launch a tactical nuke, I glass you.

OOC: Hm... firstly I think it needs to be noted that in war it doesn't have to be fair because in real life war isn't fair. So begin outnumber 4-1 doesn't mean you can supplement your nation with others to make yourself bigger... at least if you are going to do that then you would have no right to tell them they couldn't do it.

This is why people stick to using their own nations and don't just have 10+ nations behind them who never post... because it would cause others to do it and it would be stupid. Personally I ignore any nation that isn't willing to RP their own forces.


This said, the complete lack of effort behind the RP in this thread is clear. I'm note sure I would reckognise most of this crap as legit because it lacks any story or interest for the reader...

very well said Iuthia. Couldn't have said it better if I was in a good mood.

Admiral Kriegs prepares to launch an attack on the remainder of the HP navy, clearing the way for a land assault for allied nations.

"Well it is obvious that the Holy Panoly navy will be at least hurt badly from the bomber attack on its navy, but I do not want to foolishly lose ships. Therefore, we will come within 150 km of the the enemy fleet, launch our JSFs and finish them off. As a precation we will launch the EA-6Bs for ECMs. Got it? Good."

The Imperial Grand Fleet begins to move forward, scanning the horizon for enemy ships. Upon reaching the point designated Point Gamma, 150 km away from the Holy Panoly fleet, the JSFs roar into the sky, darkening the skys with thier numbers. The EA-6Bs enact ECMs and a few ship launched E-2s (I think that was what it was) provide command and control for the JSFs.

Keep talking. I'm ignoring everything you and your girlfriends post.

ooc: uh.. HP... he was commenting how it was kinda stupid that you were using other nations that don't even post to help you...
This might have been a good RP if it had gotten started. Problem is when people are faced with destruction, first thing they look for is a way to ignore you.

Stompfests aren't very fun to read. So try and keep it realistic, will you?

Also, the amount of cruise missiles it would take to completely destroy HP would number in the hundreds of thousands. Unless you use nukes.

So my 'girlfriends' are guys that live in Canada and some other place? WHat merits do you have to ignore the posts? Are they god-modding?

Well, I think this has now officially degeneratated into an ignorefest.

Wow, I don't see anyone of the "big nations" saying that. I see HP launching 10,000km range missiles, then declaring that he has a 900km swamp around his entire nation, then ignoring us, THEN flamming us. Like, honestly, we try to RP here, but he won't even give it a chance.

Oh and I would just launch 500kg and thermobic CM's at his military bases and the likes. Maybe his government.

Sorry about my spelling teacher. I typed too fast. I hope you won't spank me now. (Go to hell)

I'm just ignoring this because the reason is shit. the "story" is shit. This is only a fuckfest for big nations.

Sorry about my spelling teacher. I typed too fast. I hope you won't spank me now. (Go to hell)

I'm just ignoring this because the reason is shit. the "story" is shit. This is only a f--- for big nations.
The story is you went to war with a country that many of us have alliances with, and the rest of us support. Credonia should just ignore you.

Well Mr Panooly, I just planned to take you out of the war and draw coalition members to fight us instead of Credonia.

OOC: I apologize for my outburst eariler. I lost control. The post has been edited to say exactly what I was trying to say earlier.

The fact is that there was never much story to begin with. It was just going to be a quick bombard HP into dust. That isn't very fun. It makes for a bad story just like Nukes do. Because really, what is there to say except "I bombard you with my X amount of cruise missiles!" It doesn't allow for character developement, or good strategy or anything like that. It takes away from the story immensely. Now if you were going to do an invasion afterwords, than the story might have been salvageable. But at the moment, this is a pointless story.

ooc: uh.. HP... he was commenting how it was kinda stupid that you were using other nations that don't even post to help you...
This might have been a good RP if it had gotten started. Problem is when people are faced with destruction, first thing they look for is a way to ignore you.

OOC: You're interpretation is both a little correct and a little wrong.

Firstly I pointed out that holy panooly can't just get bigger because he enemy is too big. This much you seemed to understand.

Finally I pointed out that the shear lack of story in this from the start was terrible. I even hinted you guys to a good reason... but instead you continue with "I'm going to war with him because he's anoying" which is so close to being OOC reasoning that I would never bother with a thread started on that premise.

Like Central Facehuggeria pointed out; it's terrible RP to go to war with a nation in such a way to destroy them utterly. There is no story and it's an attempt to win in a game which isn't about winning...

Holy Panooly can ignore anything he likes as pretty much everyone agrees in NS that you can do so... of course, people don't want to RP with someone who ignores you over nothing. In this case I would understand Holy Panooly ignoring it because there isn't any RP here... not really.

ooc:
Well then.
Personally, I am allied to Credonia, along with Macabee's, Keyshona, and Bumplords. All are going to war with this Coalition.
This reminds me of another war. DT was being invaded by several nations, and Unum declared his support for bisons. Then Phyrric attacked him, which is much like we are doing. No one complained. No one ignored, so bleh. Plus, I planned to just destroy his military and government.

Boris had had enough of Iron Blood, he had ceased all communications with HQ a few days ago, he was now completly rogue. He adressed his crew "Gentlemen, today we do a great thing we will attack a Unum Veritas convoy under the guise of Iron Blood. We will plunge the world into war."

An hour later

Boris had sited his target and gave the order to load the tubes of the sea wolf, he radioded one of the merchant ships "You have violated the Iron Blood exclusion zone, you will be attacked in the name of our great country, we will do all Iron Blood proud" as soon as he cut coms 8 torpdedoes flew toward the UV convoy.

One of the TAMD ships in the Artitsan Fleet

"Sir! We have hostile launch torpedo's!"
The Captain stood up and walked over to the comm, "Where, and by who?"
"Hostile is unknown, active pinging in 3...2....1.... appears to be a seawolf sir. I'd recognize that shape anywhere after the war with Nianacio. Its near the Bisonic fleet and a UV merchant fleet."
"Continue pinging it. Send location of Seawolf to Bisonic fleet. Helms' bring us within ASROC range."
"Aye Captain."

The TAMD ship broke formation and headed east towards the Bisonic fleet. Two Korsar frigates broke off and escorted the ship.

Boris's brother has also gone AWOL and so had the crew of his sub, they too joined into the attack. Torpedoes from both subs sped toward the ships of the convoy

"SIR SECOND MARK, BEARING TWO-ZERO-FIVE, ANGEL 20!"
The Captain looked back at his sonar operator, "Ping it, get my exact location of the second," He now looked to his Firecontrol officer, "Are we in range of the ASROC's?"
"Aye sir. Sonar do we have location?"
"Aye"
"With your permission Captain."
"Granted. I want 18 ASROC's saturating the second mark. The Bisonic fleet will handle the first. Comm's get on the horn and get a recovery ship over here. We will need to pick up any survivors and figure out who's responsible."
"Aye sir"

The covers moved aside on the conning tower, revealing rows of rockets. With a push of a button, 18 rocketed out of their canisters and screamed towards their targets. The SS-N-16 ASROC's were precisly ment to destroy Subs. Active Pinging was continous, maintaining live updates to the ASROC missiles.

each sub had time to launch another salvo before the asrocs hit, the subs were completley destroyed. The bodies of sailors in Iron Blood uniforms as well as sub parts with Iron Blood markings floated on the surface of the sea

The recovery sub moved in, and Identified the subs as being Seawolves.
"Since when does Bison's operate Seawolves?"

OOC:wouldn't they be blown up beyond recognition?and damn!

ooc: If their blown up beyond recognition there should be no wreckage displaying Bisonic symbols. Plus the Sonar operator already designated them as Seawolves.

well lets wait for Unum to reply, and you would have been shooting missiles over his convoy so he could have taken that as a threat from you

bump for unum

Well Mr Panooly, I just planned to take you out of the war and draw coalition members to fight us instead of Credonia.

That's nice. I don't give a damn.

Sorry about my spelling teacher. I typed too fast. I hope you won't spank me now. (Go to hell)

I'm just ignoring this because the reason is shit. the "story" is shit. This is only a f--- for big nations.
The story is you went to war with a country that many of us have alliances with, and the rest of us support. Credonia should just ignore you.

Credonia did after me stevid and a few others built a strong alliance against him and we had damn good reasons for war.

Wow, I don't see anyone of the "big nations" saying that. I see HP launching 10,000km range missiles, then declaring that he has a 900km swamp around his entire nation, then ignoring us, THEN flamming us. Like, honestly, we try to RP here, but he won't even give it a chance.

Oh and I would just launch 500kg and thermobic CM's at his military bases and the likes. Maybe his government.

I haven't fired anything at them, not even a party popper pistol. Take some reading lessons idiot. You're not RPing you're just trying to stomp me because of OOC reasons.

What ooc Reasons? Continue to speak to me in a degenerate manor and I will have you reported for flamming, as that was your second time. You know you would lose, that is why you are ignoring. Wheres your coalition? If those 8 countries are all so big to go 8 v 1 on credonia, how come they haven't come and backed you up? Why are you so scared that now suddenly your in Credonia's shoes.

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=133644 read this before jumping into any conclusions.