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War with Credonia (posted on behalf of Aust)

Holy panooly
20-03-2004, 17:51
Check these threads for the whole thing: click (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=133083) and click (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=130472)

Current nations involved in the coalition:
Aust
Holy Panooly
Catania-Marinov
Wazican
SLOA
GameFAQ
Doujin
Phoenixius
FutureEngland
Dancing Moose
Adaptus Astrates
Stevid
Central Facehuggeria

Credonia & friends:
Midlonia
Credonia
Independent Hitmen
Iron Blood

( Huzen Hagen, British Navy will probably join too)

OOC:For those who wonder why I haven't finished the war with Creddy is because there was a whole load of bickering and we only fired some missiles. The war turned cold in other words.
Aust
20-03-2004, 18:09
Aust will send it's full millatary might to help HP, but only after we've delt with the current invasion. We also donate £900,000,000
Holy panooly
20-03-2004, 18:10
Thanks for the generous donation.

HP sends the following to Aust to defend his homeland.
1 Essex class Carrier
100 F16's
80 F17's
80 J10's
Independent Hitmen
20-03-2004, 18:11
The USIH is seriously concidering entering this "war".
Doujin
20-03-2004, 18:19
on whos side?
Independent Hitmen
20-03-2004, 18:20
Our Ally Credonia's.
Fluffywuffy
20-03-2004, 18:22
The Empire issues another statement on nukes (for those who didnt read other thread):

We will not tolerate thier use. We will rip the limbs off of whoever, even were it the largest nation in the game, uses them.
Iron Blood
20-03-2004, 18:23
We will support credonia, along with out old ally IH (Im bisons/dt).
Independent Hitmen
20-03-2004, 18:23
The Empire issues another statement on nukes (for those who didnt read other thread):

We will not tolerate thier use. We will rip the limbs off of whoever, even were it the largest nation in the game, uses them.

OOC: That could be quite funny to watch you try.

IC: The President will not launch a nuclear strike unless one if first launched at us or our close allies.
Phoenixius
20-03-2004, 18:28
This is also posted on Aust citizens massacred etc thread as well

Phoenixius' crews begin swarming over various ships and planes as Phoenixius gears up for war. Various pilots leave their homes for a protracted period at sea and the intelligence departments are gathering massive amounts of data on the war so far.

Eventually after many days of preparation, the Phoenixius fleet moves off.

1x Enyan-ASM class Carrier
3x Revion-SM class Battleships
9x Kelis-SM class Cruisers
20x Tritus-DSM class Frigates
5x Harius-S class Submarines
Schultaria Prime
20-03-2004, 18:30
The United Socialist States of Schultaria Prime, under an active mutual protection treaty with Catania-Marinov, shall aid this coalition by any means possible. Under the Treaty of Protective Union, we will be able to commit an inital 3 divisions of infantry (already stationed at Catania-Marinov do to a prior conflict) until such time when we will be able to mobilize a more significant portion of our defense forces. We hope this is acceptable to the military leaders of this coalition.
GameFAQ
20-03-2004, 18:37
Larry Buker:General Larke, what Is your reason for activating our WHOLE military?

General Larke:We must attack Credonia!

Larry Buker:General Larke, Credonia is our ally! HAVE YOU GONE MAD?

General Larke:Sir, they attacked Aust unjustly!

Larry Buker:Good enough, Give the command to mobilize the military.

General Larke:Good Choice, sir!

*Loudspeakers boom all over GameFAQ repeating one message*
All men and women that are from the ages of 20 to 40 and are able to fire a weapon must report to the military base nearest to your city! There is one exception, any woman who is pregnant or has a child under 15 is exempt from the Military Duty!

*Larry Buker at a Press Conference*
Ladies and Gentlemen of GameFAQ, Can I have your attention please! I have declared war on our former ally, Credonia, becuase they did an act of evil against Aust! I have mobilized all of our military to help attack Credonia and Defend Aust from attacks from Credonia and there allies! I have one more thing to say! ll men and women that are from the ages of 20 to 40 and are able to fire a weapon must report to the military base nearest to your city! There is one exception, any woman who is pregnant or has a child under 15 is exempt from the Military Duty!



*A GBC Broadcast*
This is Jerry Desburg reporting from a Press Conference of our leader, Larry Buker! He has Declared war on Credonia! He gave us one message and here it is! ll men and women that are from the ages of 20 to 40 and are able to fire a weapon must report to the military base nearest to your city! There is one exception, any woman who is pregnant or has a child under 15 is exempt from the Military Duty! This is Jerry Desburg for GBC news
*End Broadcast*

OOC:Is this a good RP?
Holy panooly
20-03-2004, 18:37
Sure it's a good RP
GameFAQ
20-03-2004, 18:38
Thanks.
Independent Hitmen
20-03-2004, 18:38
We will support credonia, along with out old ally IH (Im bisons/dt).

Your support is much appreciated old friend.

OOC: Im worried that Credonia hasnt been on much recently and hence hasnt seen this latest war threat. Anybody got any evidence of a reply? becasue it cant start till he acknowledges it.
Huzen Hagen
20-03-2004, 18:49
I will help if i can. Doujin, if all i can give is my navy i would like to discuss the war at sea with you, i think you will find my battleships most impressive
Holy panooly
20-03-2004, 18:49
Creddo posted somewhere he wouldn't post as much as he used to... But maybe he isn't in the mood for war at all...
Central Facehuggeria
20-03-2004, 18:57
Creddo posted somewhere he wouldn't post as much as he used to... But maybe he isn't in the mood for war at all...

If credonia has been having RL problems, perhaps we should postpone this war?

IC: Central Facehuggeria doesn't necessarily support the war. If negotiations with Credonia were to take place, to reduce the scope of the Credonian "War on Terror" which has ended up in killing many more innocent civilians than terrorists, then we would support those first. However, as no negotiations are likely to happen, we have no choice to support the war.
Dancing Moose
20-03-2004, 18:59
I, along with many other nations in Antarctic complying with SAND (Snowy Antarctic Negotiations for Defense), will gladly come to the aid of Aust. Most of us will be more than happy to include our entire militaries, insuring that no foe will ever touch foot on Antarctic soil (or ice) again.
Central Facehuggeria
20-03-2004, 19:05
IC: After careful review of the tactical situation, it appears that Aust is in danger, as such we are mobilizing the 54th Air Talon to defend Aust. It is hoped that they can help defend Aust while the bulk of our military forces mobilize. We had hoped this war could be averted. It may still be.

OOC: The 54th Talon:

50 XC-2 Interceptors
150 pilots for the interceptors (to alleviate pilot fatigue)
Assorted ground crew

I am a future tech nation, but I won't use my future weapons unless it is okay with Aust. (Since he is being attacked by space marines, I don't think this'll be a problem.)
Holy panooly
20-03-2004, 19:05
Much thanks for your support Moose. CF please reconsider about military support. We really need it.
Independent Hitmen
20-03-2004, 19:08
IC: After careful review of the tactical situation, it appears that Aust is in danger, as such we are mobilizing the 54th Air Talon to defend Aust. It is hoped that they can help defend Aust while the bulk of our military forces mobilize. We had hoped this war could be averted. It may still be.

OOC: The 54th Talon:

50 XC-2 Interceptors
150 pilots for the interceptors (to alleviate pilot fatigue)
Assorted ground crew

I am a future tech nation, but I won't use my future weapons unless it is okay with Aust. (Since he is being attacked by space marines, I don't think this'll be a problem.)

OOC:im not attacking him and dont use future weapons. i doubt we will come to conflict as i am DEFENDING credonia and as we are different tech i dont think we would anyway
Central Facehuggeria
20-03-2004, 19:08
Much thanks for your support Moose. CF please reconsider about military support. We really need it.

IC: We have. As Aust is in danger of falling, we are mobilizing our entire army, and placing the 54th Air talon into Austian airspace to assist in the defense. See the post right after Dancing moose's.

OOC: If future tech is allowed, we can contribute more as we are a decidedly future tech nation.
Holy panooly
20-03-2004, 19:12
We are also busy mobilizing our army and navy. We are waiting for Creddo's reply.
Transnapastain
20-03-2004, 19:17
We hereby donate 100 billion dollars to Dancing Moose, and due to our intelligence-sharing plan with said nation, will provide any intelligence we can, as well as use of our SatRec's

We will remain neutral in this conflict
GameFAQ
20-03-2004, 19:22
Harry Buker:General Larke, has there been any response from Credonia yet?

General Larke:No Response yet sir.

Harry Buker:When I say, Launch 10 EMP's, 5,000 Flash Bombs, 10,000 Smoke Bombs, and 60 Napalm Missles at Credonia.

General Larke:Isn't that a bit too much?

Harry Buker:Never Underestimate the Enemy
20-03-2004, 19:27
A good coilition. I'll join an attack.

OOC: I need to brush up on my RP'ing.
Central Facehuggeria
20-03-2004, 19:44
OOC:im not attacking him and dont use future weapons. i doubt we will come to conflict as i am DEFENDING credonia and as we are different tech i dont think we would anyway

OOC: Well, I am at the moment planning to defend Aust.
Also, my tech isn't invlunerable to modern tech armies. I follow the "A rifle will kill you just as dead as a multi-phasic plasma array" rule.

And yes, this post was really meant to bump the topic.
Holy panooly
20-03-2004, 19:52
Be patient, we have to wait till Creddy replies.
Dancing Moose
20-03-2004, 20:17
I am mobilizing the massive Antarctic modern tech navy to come to the aid of Aust. This navy is under the command of myself and Wazican, and no others.

I am sending (and Doujin will recognize this) two battlegroups.

First Battlegroup:
1 Black Pearl Carrier (DMN Graceland)
1 Indomitable Class Super Battleship (DMN Seydlitz)
2 Great Lakes Class Battleships (DMN Barham, DMN Moltke)
1 Hellfire Heavy Cruiser (DMN Marlborough)
3 Ticonderoga Guided Missile Cruisers (DMN Jack Frost, DMN Tundra, DMN Margraf)
2 NightStalker Class Guided Missile Destroyers (DMN Sujo, DMN Nelson)
10 Amundsen Class Destroyers (DMN Amundsen, Z-53, Z-54, Z-43, Z-75, Z-64, Z-62, Z-57, Z-23, Z-50)
2 Arsenal Stealth Ships (DMN Foxbat, DMN Furious)
5 Visby Class Corvettes (H-7, H-3, H-10, H-1, H-5)
3 Seawolf Class Subs (DMN Night Stalker, DMN Remington, DMN Perdition)
1 Special Operations Sub-Seahorse Class (DMN Thompson)
1 Sub Tender (S-3)
1 Fleet Auxiliary (AU-22)

1st Fast Assault Group:
3 Spruance Class Destroyers (DMN Vernon, DMN Tombstone, DMN Reservoir)
3 Visby Corvettes (H-42, H-57, H-6)
5 Weathered Class Torpedo Boats (TB-1, TB-4, TB-8, TB-11, TB-14)
3 Pegasus Class PT Boats (PT-105, PT-74, PT-142)
3 LA Class Attack Subs (DMN Leyte, DMN Okinawa, DMN Congo)

Second Battlegroup:
2 Nimitz Stealth Carriers (DMN Inertia, DMN Tuscon)
1 Huron Class Command Ship/Battlecruiser (DMN Malaya)
2 Indomitable Class Super Battleships (DMN Indomitable, DMN Indefatigable)
3 Ticonderoga Guided Missile Cruisers (DMN Cabot, DMN Swordfish, DMN Renown)
2 Zumwalt Class Destroyers (DMN Maya, DMN Bayern)
10 Amundsen Class Destroyers (DMN Z-84, Z-87, Z-95, Z-96, Z-102, Z-15, Z-120, Z-114, Z-99, Z-2)
5 Arsenal Class Stealth Ships (DMN Trix, DMN Hydra, DMN Wivern, DMN Baden, DMN Rebel)
5 Visby Corvettes (H-27, H-15, H-75, H-92, H-86)
2 Weathered Class Torpedo Boats (TB-23, TB-55, TB-17)
4 Pegasus Class PT Boats (PT-57, PT-10, PT-22, PT-4)
3 Seawolf Class Subs (DMN Dawn, DMN Cascade, DMN Vertigo)
3 LA Class Attack Subs (DMN Revolution, DMN Bounty, DMN Anchorage)
2 Sub Tenders (S-15, S-4)
1 Fleet Auxiliary (AU-47)

2nd Fast Assualt Group
1 Hellfire Class Heavy Cruiser (DMN Derfflinger)
3 Amundsen Class Destroyers (Z-172, Z-101, Z-163)
2 NightStalker Class Guided Missile Destroyers (DMN Sydra, DMN Badger)
5 Pegasus Class PT Boats (PT-111, PT-1, PT-3, PT-157, PT-104)
2 LA Class Attack Subs (DMN Patriot, DMN Exocet)
Muktar
20-03-2004, 20:21
Muktar has mercenaries available to the anti-Credonia side, for several reasons. First, we don't like Credonia. Second, Phoenixius is one of our region-mates. Third, we don't want our mercenaries on both sides of the battle. And finally, we don't want to associate ourselves with a group that attacks civilian targets. There are Askari (guerillas), Zhalfirin (field combat), Dauthi (melee combat), Soldevi(infiltration/spies), Krosa (aerospace), Visira (ground/naval), and Catera (assassins) mercenaries. The prices are quiet reasonable.
Allanea
20-03-2004, 20:21
I have to remind you we have two aircraft carriers in Credonian waters.
Iron Blood
20-03-2004, 20:24
With creodnias permission, we will send 108 Mo-1 maritime strike aircraft to help fend off invasion. We will also send BAL-E coastal missile batteries.
Dancing Moose
20-03-2004, 20:38
Please understand, I am not attacking, I am merely defending Aust and Antarcticas best interests.

Each of my carriers carries the following planes (including CAP):
15 F-22 Sea Raptors
15 F-16SF Super Falcons
15 F-15F Sky Eagles
10 F/A-186 Ground Attack Hornets
15 AV-8B Harrier II Plus Aircraft
10 Talon F-96 Joint Strike Fighter Aircraft
5 Darkhorse F-35B STOVC Joint Strike Fighter Aircraft

The Amundsen Class destroyers carry one Sikorsky MH-53E Sea Dragon and one AH-64H Apache Crossbow helicopter.
Wazican
20-03-2004, 21:06
OOC:Being an immediate neighbor to Aust(on his northern border) , and an ally of Holy panooly, and a major ally of Dancing Moose they all have my full military support. Also the naval portion of SAND(as mentioned by DM above) is mobilized and prepared for war. This portion of SAND consisits of over 40 CBG's, all of which are mobilized and defending Anarctica.
Stevid
20-03-2004, 21:46
I pledge to defend HP and allies.
The Naval buget here has hit an all time high, the New Swiftsure class S-Boat Submarine will join the fleet.

Swiftsure Class'

HMS Swiftsure (S-126)

HMS Sovereign (S-108)

HMS Superb (S-109)

HMS Sceptre (S-104)

HMS Spartan (S-105)

HMS Splendid (S-106)

(The stats of these subs are classified).
Stevid
20-03-2004, 21:49
I am mobilizing the massive Antarctic modern tech navy to come to the aid of Aust. This navy is under the command of myself and Wazican, and no others.

I am sending (and Doujin will recognize this) two battlegroups.

First Battlegroup:
1 Black Pearl Carrier (DMN Graceland)
1 Indomitable Class Super Battleship (DMN Seydlitz)
2 Great Lakes Class Battleships (DMN Barham, DMN Moltke)
1 Hellfire Heavy Cruiser (DMN Marlborough)
3 Ticonderoga Guided Missile Cruisers (DMN Jack Frost, DMN Tundra, DMN Margraf)
2 NightStalker Class Guided Missile Destroyers (DMN Sujo, DMN Nelson)
10 Amundsen Class Destroyers (DMN Amundsen, Z-53, Z-54, Z-43, Z-75, Z-64, Z-62, Z-57, Z-23, Z-50)
2 Arsenal Stealth Ships (DMN Foxbat, DMN Furious)
5 Visby Class Corvettes (H-7, H-3, H-10, H-1, H-5)
3 Seawolf Class Subs (DMN Night Stalker, DMN Remington, DMN Perdition)
1 Special Operations Sub-Seahorse Class (DMN Thompson)
1 Sub Tender (S-3)
1 Fleet Auxiliary (AU-22)

1st Fast Assault Group:
3 Spruance Class Destroyers (DMN Vernon, DMN Tombstone, DMN Reservoir)
3 Visby Corvettes (H-42, H-57, H-6)
5 Weathered Class Torpedo Boats (TB-1, TB-4, TB-8, TB-11, TB-14)
3 Pegasus Class PT Boats (PT-105, PT-74, PT-142)
3 LA Class Attack Subs (DMN Leyte, DMN Okinawa, DMN Congo)

Second Battlegroup:
2 Nimitz Stealth Carriers (DMN Inertia, DMN Tuscon)
1 Huron Class Command Ship/Battlecruiser (DMN Malaya)
2 Indomitable Class Super Battleships (DMN Indomitable, DMN Indefatigable)
3 Ticonderoga Guided Missile Cruisers (DMN Cabot, DMN Swordfish, DMN Renown)
2 Zumwalt Class Destroyers (DMN Maya, DMN Bayern)
10 Amundsen Class Destroyers (DMN Z-84, Z-87, Z-95, Z-96, Z-102, Z-15, Z-120, Z-114, Z-99, Z-2)
5 Arsenal Class Stealth Ships (DMN Trix, DMN Hydra, DMN Wivern, DMN Baden, DMN Rebel)
5 Visby Corvettes (H-27, H-15, H-75, H-92, H-86)
2 Weathered Class Torpedo Boats (TB-23, TB-55, TB-17)
4 Pegasus Class PT Boats (PT-57, PT-10, PT-22, PT-4)
3 Seawolf Class Subs (DMN Dawn, DMN Cascade, DMN Vertigo)
3 LA Class Attack Subs (DMN Revolution, DMN Bounty, DMN Anchorage)
2 Sub Tenders (S-15, S-4)
1 Fleet Auxiliary (AU-47)

2nd Fast Assualt Group
1 Hellfire Class Heavy Cruiser (DMN Derfflinger)
3 Amundsen Class Destroyers (Z-172, Z-101, Z-163)
2 NightStalker Class Guided Missile Destroyers (DMN Sydra, DMN Badger)
5 Pegasus Class PT Boats (PT-111, PT-1, PT-3, PT-157, PT-104)
2 LA Class Attack Subs (DMN Patriot, DMN Exocet)

I have a fleet of similar size in international waters.
I'm very impressed with yours, very impressed.
Dancing Moose
20-03-2004, 21:55
I try, lol.
Wazican
20-03-2004, 22:14
As the supreme Emperor of Wazican Aaronius sits in his massive conference room he looks around. Every high ranking member in Wazican’s armed forces was at this massive conference that he had called including: Admiral Bennet (co-commander of SAND’s naval forces), Admiral Shultz (Commander and chief of The Wazican Imperial Navy), George Makeum (Wazican Minister of Productions), General Browning (Commander and chief of The Wazican Imperial Army),and General McCaren(Commander and Chief The Wazican Imperial Air-core).

The Emperor turns and faces his war council and speaks with a voice of authority “Greetings men, as I’m sure you know why I called you here on short notice I will cut to the chase so to speak. Our immediate neighbor Aust will be penitentially invaded. I want to know how well our military forces are prepared and how we will react to this situation. First I want to know if SAND has come to a decision yet.”

Admiral Bennet turns to him “Well sir the actual SAND coalition has not come to a conclusion but Admiral Ross and I have decided to mobilize the forces, but when SAND make a decision I will notify you.”

“Thank you Admiral. Now Admiral Shultz how is our navy looking? ”

“Very well sir, our fleets are in top notch condition. Currently the Grand White fleet is on a training exercise but has been pulled back and should be here in one day. The rest of the navy has been mobilized and is ready for war.”

“Good those are the reports I like to hear. Now General Browning what is the army’s situation?”

“Good sir. Our homeland defense forces are completely mobilized and our rapid deployment Legions along with the feared 6th Mobile Armored Legion can be in Aust ready to fight in under 12 hours. The rest of the Legions are on full alert waiting your command.”

“Once again very good General. I want my prized 6th inside Aust as soon as possible. Hold back the rapid deployment legions until more hot spots develop. Now McCaren how is the Air-Core looking?”

“Very well sir. Although we are a little short of planes we have enough to help Aust and defend ourselfs and that is about it.”

“Alright start purchasing, we will not send air forces in to assist Aust. George how is production coming?”

“Sir stunning. We have completed the massive defense lines that you wanted us to create along our southern border with Aust. Also the defense’s in the Northern Mountain range are complete. This defense line is the largest we have ever produced. It consists of over 200 special HFRF (Harrier First Response Forces) fields designed to defend against any threat that comes. Also it has a string of bunkers and underground tunnels throughout the mountains, and advanced warning radar posts. Nobody will be able to penetrate through either the North or the South. Also we have completed over 10 major airfields scattered around the country to allow for the expansion of our Air-Core. And new massive highway transit systems have been constructed to allow for the quick deployment of our forces to hot spots around the country.”

“Great, but what about the new tanks and planes?”

“I was about to get to that sir, the Defender Class tanks are complete and ready to go into the international markets. Also we have finished production on over 1,000 F-16 fighters, while we are mass producing these none of them will go on sale they are strictly for our own use.”

“Alright everything is looking good, dismissed.”

OOC: Here is a list of the ships in my Grand White Fleet:

1 Indomitable Class Super Battleship (WIN Ajax)
1 Ultor Class Super Carrier (WIN Poseidon)
Aircraft:
3 E2-C Hawkeyes
35 F-14 Tomcats
25 F/A-18 Super Hornets
20 Archangels
20 ASW Sea King Helicopters
10 F-117 Nighthawks
2 Modified Arctic Subsiders
2 Elessar Class Super Carriers (WIN Hydra, WIN Scylla)
Aircraft Per Carrier:
3 E2-C Hawkeyes
30 F-14 Tomcats
20 F/A-18 Super Hornets
20 Archangels
15 ASW Sea King Helicopters
10 F-117 Nighthawks
2 Nimitz Class Carriers (WIN Styx, WIN Lethe)
Aircraft Per Carrier:
20 Archangels
20 F/A-18 Hornets
20 F-14 Tomcats
5 E2-C Hawkeye
5 AC-150 Tankers
10 F-117 Nighthawks
2 Lancer Class Destroyer-Dreadnaught(WIN Orion, WIN Hercules)
5Amundsen Class Destroyers(WIN Cerberus, WIN Odysseus, WIN Pan, WIN Kronos, WIN Persephone)
2 Norad Class Super Battleship (WIN Ares, WIN Mars)
4 SeaSquid Class Nuclear Attack Submarine Aircraft Per Sub:
1 AH-220 attack helicopter
1 SH-65A Dolphin
4 Hellfire Heavy Cruisers
2 Hospital Ships (WIN Florence, WIN Mercy)
4 Los Angeles Class Attack Subs
4 Seawolf Class Subs 4 Ohio Class SSBN's
4 Virginia Class NSSN's
25 Hover Patrol Boats
25 Pegasus Patrol Craft
2 Avenger Class Minesweepers
4 Ticonderoga Class Guided Missile Cruisers
2 Zumwalt Destroyers
4 Fleet Defense Catamarans
6 Arleigh Burke AEGIS Destroyers
2 Iowa Class Battleships
6 Oliver Hazard Perry Class ASW Frigates
4 Weathered Class Torpedo Boats
2 Sea Shadow Assault Ships
2 Arsenal Ships
8 Visby Class Corvettes
4 AOE-6 Combat Logistic Ships
Credonia
20-03-2004, 22:30
as i stated in a recent thread, I recieved inside information that this would happen and i have been secretyly forming a rather LARGE coalition to thwart any attacks. I will invoke MANY of my pacts and call upon my coalition of nations if an attack is carried out. If you have a problem with us, come to the negotiation table (i aint goin to war cuz im tryin to go on vacation, wat dont u peeps get)
Adaptus Astrates
20-03-2004, 22:30
I'm on HP's side.

AA Ministry of Defence:
Officers and scurity men were shifting all over the command room. There was a non-stop sound of voices. Then Incame the supreme commanders.
Field Marshall General Sir Robert Muldoom of the army, Lord Admiral Kelly of the AAN, Air Vice Marshall Raven and Space Fleet Admiral Ventris.
Everyone saluted them respctifully, and so the speech began.
Muldoom: Gentlemen, I, along with my counterparts, have recieved a message from are allies to us, The Emperor and the chancellor. We have waited for this day for a long time. We are going to war with Credonia.

*There was an airy silence*

Ventris: Our first strike is as follows. The Space Fleet is to destroy "creddy's"orbital ICBM launcher. This way ground forces will be alot safer.

Raven: At the same time the Naval-Air Units will begin attacking Credonia.
We WILL obide by the Geneva Convention, of which Credonia is alergic to.

*People laughed for a second or two*

Muldoom: Out of the fourteen million troops in the entire AA army, will will put 750,000 into the job.

Kelly:The AAN will begin "Operation Ray", which is the systematic destruction of enemy ships and ports, we ofcourse will limit ourselves to military targets...


The meeting/speech lasted a bit longer. Then things began. The entire country was now at full-scale war...
Huzen Hagen
20-03-2004, 22:32
the ICBM satellite was already neutrallised by me. We thank you for your assistance in this conflict
Allanea
20-03-2004, 22:32
Credonia: May we start?
Credonia
20-03-2004, 22:36
im not goin to war, im tryinto finish off all the other RP's ive got goin. I need time to myself and im tryin to finish everything so that nothin gets left undone when i go away from NS for a few weeks to deal with RL probs. (thats y i havent done anything in the war with HP thread)
Muktar
20-03-2004, 22:58
And what RPs would these be?
Central Facehuggeria
20-03-2004, 23:18
If the major participant lacks the time to do a fully fledged war, we should wait until he does. If you are having personal problems, Credonia, resolve them first. We'll still be here when you come back.
Wazican
21-03-2004, 01:42
I agree.
Nuevo Kowloon
21-03-2004, 02:18
Gentlemen,

We don't like Credonia's foreign policies, and their actions in Aust were premature and may have played into the hands of a mass-murderer.

That said, aiding this Usurper in Aust because you dislike Credonia, or believe you owe Aust, is foolish and will grant you many sleepless nights should it succeed.

For those who remember Blood Pass and the War with Elvindom, we sacrificed more than most, we know what it means to be an Ally.

Those who act now against the allies of the Legitimate government of Aust, are aiding in the installation of a bloody handed tyrant. A Tyrant named "Palpatine", the Senior Advisor and newly-minted "Prime Minister" has the life of the Emperor in his hands, and has used it, and the Emperor, to precipitate this war. While Credonia was foolish to play into this man's hands, you will be likewise manipulated into placing the last pieces he needs to end Aust's progress, and begin an age of darkness.

We believe it highly likely that the Austian Emperor's life will be ended to create a martyr for Palpatine, and to solidify his control over the nation. If this happens... It must not happen.

This isn't just another war, and you must consider carefully what you do.
If you have grievances against Credonia, hold them, don't aid in placing a monster in charge of a nation as important, as prominent, as powerful, as Aust.

If you won't oppose this Usurper directly, take the Neutral path, and allow the Credonians, and their allies, to shatter themselves in this. Wait, and prepare, rather than leaping at the lightest gesture of a man you really ought to distrust.

After all, how long, (should he succeed) before he does it to you?
Muktar
21-03-2004, 02:31
Has Aust attacked civilian targets? I know Credonia has, I've seen the posts. Nailed an HP hospital, bombed HLF suburbs, and that's just off the top of my head.
Nuevo Kowloon
21-03-2004, 02:43
Has Aust attacked civilian targets? I know Credonia has, I've seen the posts. Nailed an HP hospital, bombed HLF suburbs, and that's just off the top of my head.

I don't know, would the families and dependents in Credonia's Embassy be considered Civilians, or military?
Or the civilian staff aboard Midlonia's transport craft?

Look, I know HP and HLF have a problem with Credonia, I'm not asking you to give up your feud, I'm asking for you to wait until you aren't supporting someone with the potential to be even WORSE.

Wait until the war is your war, when your actions won't be placing a worse threat in control of a larger, more powerful, weapon.
Muktar
21-03-2004, 02:47
Look, there is no way Credonia can be brought down without powerful allies. Unless Credonia gets the boot from NWO, there isn't a snowball's chance in h*** that there will be a bigger assembly of anti-Credonia nations. And so you know, I'm not activly involved, I'm justing selling mercenaries. (http://s4.invisionfree.com/The_Unforgiven_Board/index.php?showtopic=144)
Dancing Moose
21-03-2004, 02:54
Nuevo Kowloon, these points you make are understandable, but you must know. Aust is a fellow Antarctic nation of mine, much less ally. We, all nations in Antarctica, are bound together by treaties, one being SAND.

I do not condone what other nations in the anti-Credonian alliance choose to do (now that you have shown us important facts), but I am making it clear that we are diplomatically and militarily bound with Aust, as well as every other nation in Antarctica. Anything Aust wishes me to do in HIS war, I will comply with. Nothing more, nothing less.
Nuevo Kowloon
21-03-2004, 02:56
Look, there is no way Credonia can be brought down without powerful allies. Unless Credonia gets the boot from NWO, there isn't a snowball's chance in h*** that there will be a bigger assembly of anti-Credonia nations. And so you know, I'm not activly involved, I'm justing selling mercenaries. (http://s4.invisionfree.com/The_Unforgiven_Board/index.php?showtopic=144)

Look at all the nations that are signing on pell-mell to this-can you not see that Credonia is a hated nation? It will be no less hated tomorrow, but in aiding the Austian Usurper, you're running the risk of exchanging one cowboy for something even worse.
Withold support this time, and the next time, you may find a stronger alliance. The NWO is Fragmenting, tearing itself apart. If you and the others join in now, you may find that you have welded the fragmenting NWO back together, and made it stronger.
By standing aside, you allow the internal stresses of that super-alliance to do their work. If you were to come in on our side, you might even stand to gain enough influence to make your sanctions and demands mean something, credibility for your objections to their policies-because you stood against Tyranny when it counted, instead of being the blind puppets of a Tyrant, so wrapped in your old grievances you refused to see a thing that needed to be done, merely because the wrong person was doing it.
Nuevo Kowloon
21-03-2004, 03:07
Nuevo Kowloon, these points you make are understandable, but you must know. Aust is a fellow Antarctic nation of mine, much less ally. We, all nations in Antarctica, are bound together by treaties, one being SAND.

I do not condone what other nations in the anti-Credonian alliance choose to do (now that you have shown us important facts), but I am making it clear that we are diplomatically and militarily bound with Aust, as well as every other nation in Antarctica. Anything Aust wishes me to do in HIS war, I will comply with. Nothing more, nothing less.

You MUST consider that you're being called in by a Usurper! A Treaty with a Nation is based on that nation's government being Legitimate!
As Allies, you are bound morally to support the government to which you made the treaty, this is true-however, that government has been toppled by a Usurper.
By taking over and using force and deciet to overthrow the legitimate ruler, he has, in effect, nullified those treaties- remember that Credonia was a long-time ally (Possibly longer than you, certainly longer than us), Palpatine has destroyed those agreements, do you think he will honour the SAND treaty, once his power is established and he does not face threat of being stopped?
Can you presume he will stop with Aust?
Were it not that we were asked by a member of the Imperial Family (their Ambassadrix, Princess Bertrude) to intervene, we would be obligated to remain neutral until a new alliance or enmity could be arranged-because we allied with the Honourable People of Aust, governed by their Emperor and his line.
We are, as allies, constrained to acquiesce to the legal and legitimate government's request-and that government is not headed up by Prime Minister Palpatine.

[ooc- If Aust asked you to come in on that side, cool: I've been in tg with him on this, and I'm playing diplomatic/political side of the fight...for now.]
Muktar
21-03-2004, 03:15
Look, there is no way Credonia can be brought down without powerful allies. Unless Credonia gets the boot from NWO, there isn't a snowball's chance in h*** that there will be a bigger assembly of anti-Credonia nations. And so you know, I'm not activly involved, I'm justing selling mercenaries. (http://s4.invisionfree.com/The_Unforgiven_Board/index.php?showtopic=144)

Look at all the nations that are signing on pell-mell to this-can you not see that Credonia is a hated nation? It will be no less hated tomorrow, but in aiding the Austian Usurper, you're running the risk of exchanging one cowboy for something even worse.
Withold support this time, and the next time, you may find a stronger alliance. The NWO is Fragmenting, tearing itself apart. If you and the others join in now, you may find that you have welded the fragmenting NWO back together, and made it stronger.
By standing aside, you allow the internal stresses of that super-alliance to do their work. If you were to come in on our side, you might even stand to gain enough influence to make your sanctions and demands mean something, credibility for your objections to their policies-because you stood against Tyranny when it counted, instead of being the blind puppets of a Tyrant, so wrapped in your old grievances you refused to see a thing that needed to be done, merely because the wrong person was doing it.

My nation's military is MERCENARIES. We fight for the highest bidder, diplomacy overruling. One of our regionmates (Phoenixius) is in this, so we can't go against Aust unless he bails. If you can convince him to bail, our mercenaries will be available to both sides to buy the services of. (http://s4.invisionfree.com/The_Unforgiven_Board/index.php?showtopic=144)
Dancing Moose
21-03-2004, 03:37
Im sorry to say that Aust being a Usurper still does not change my 'forced decison'. It does not matter who rules Aust, or what that person chooses to do. I will still abide by what that Ruler/Emperor chooses to do (as long as the war or affair includes that Emporer as a main figure, if you know what I mean).
Nuevo Kowloon
21-03-2004, 03:38
Im sorry to say that Aust being a Usurper still does not change my 'forced decison'. It does not matter who rules Aust, or what that person chooses to do. I will still abide by what that Ruler/Emperor chooses to do (as long as the war or affair includes that Emporer as a main figure, if you know what I mean).

You realize, you're helping this man Palpatine kill him, don't you?
Dancing Moose
21-03-2004, 03:44
Kill Credonia, correct?
Nuevo Kowloon
21-03-2004, 03:47
No, the Emperor. Once he doesn't need the Emperor as a lever, the boy will die, and his immediate family, and any members of the royal house that he can reach. Then, he'll appoint himself Emperor. Believe it, there's been too many of that kind of takeover for it to go any other way.
The kid is fifteen years old, and this Palpatine character's got him in seclusion, do the math. Figs on Credonia, it was their stupidity that escalated this prematurely, but the Emperor, his life is in danger. Now that blood is being spilt... dammit. Just ask to meet with him In Person. Maybe you can assure his safety, or maybe you'll be denied, or maybe you'll end up like the King of Midlonia, a Prisoner in a work-camp. (Would you like to see the sattelite photos?) the King of Midlonia is POW for trying to see the Austian Emperor-all we have are a few recorded messages and written notes-and a sudden, drastic, and illogical shift in policy that's started a war.
(Though I do have some inside dirt on the Court, and on this man Palpatine, courtesy of Princess Bertrude.)
Dancing Moose
21-03-2004, 03:52
Ah yes, I have heard this story before come to think of it. However, this is not my intention. I am not ready to attack Credonia (if that is what Palpatine wishes), I am only mobilizing forces to DEFEND Aust, if he is attacked by Credonia or any of his allies.
Elves Security Forces
21-03-2004, 03:54
If you look at the thread where Aust massacres Cedonia's civilians you will see that I'm not openly against Aust but merely trying to get to the capitol and take over it.
Nuevo Kowloon
21-03-2004, 03:56
Ah yes, I have heard this story before come to think of it. However, this is not my intention. I am not ready to attack Credonia (if that is what Palpatine wishes), I am only mobilizing forces to DEFEND Aust, if he is attacked by Credonia or any of his allies.

That meathead Credonia's already started shooting, when he should have been working to get the word out on what is really going on to the other Allies.
So far, we've lost 24 aircraft trying to keep yet another nation from making that mistake-peacekeeping is out.
Keep Aust's Enemies from taking advantage, yes, absolutely, but something has to be done to prevent... to prevent Palpatine's Coup from succeeding.
Dancing Moose
21-03-2004, 04:01
That was not a smart move, but it seems he has 'temporarily' stopped. I WILL take action if Credonia attempts to attack again.

Very well, Elves. I will allow that as long as the virtual nation or true Emporer of Aust is not harmed.
Dancing Moose
21-03-2004, 04:03
By the way, what security is the 15 year old Emperor currently under as of now?
Nuevo Kowloon
21-03-2004, 04:05
By the way, what security is the 15 year old Emperor currently under as of now?

we don't know for certain-when Credonia attacked, we lost our source near the palace in the fighting. He was under Heavy security before that, and apparently took a great chance sending a call for help.

[ooc-I think it's on the second or third page of the "Aust Massacres Credonian Civilians" thread.)
Central Facehuggeria
21-03-2004, 04:06
IC: While we would like nothing more than to crush the Austican 'Prime Minister' beneath our gauntlets of justice, we owe Aust our alliegance. They helped us earlier in our history, and such a debt is not easily thrown aside, no matter who is in control of Aust. The Aust people have our support. We will try to defend them from the other nations brutally attacking their homeland. If you could have found a way to unseat Palpatine without harming the Aust people, We would not have objected nearly as loudly. However, the nations gathered against Aust have shown their colors, killing Aust's people. They could have tried a less damaging and more covert approach to the problem, but they chose not to. Instead they invade Aust and start killing innocents, when it is really the Prime Minister they are after. The Aust people did not deserve the war thrust upon them. Our position is clear: We must defend Aust.
Dancing Moose
21-03-2004, 04:10
Very well, I would seen elite soldiers to help but I cant be assured losses will be minimal, as it seems I cant afford that at the moment.
Nuevo Kowloon
21-03-2004, 04:13
IC: While we would like nothing more than to crush the Austican 'Prime Minister' beneath our gauntlets of justice, we owe Aust our alliegance. They helped us earlier in our history, and such a debt is not easily thrown aside, no matter who is in control of Aust. The Aust people have our support. We will try to defend them from the other nations brutally attacking their homeland. If you could have found a way to unseat Palpatine without harming the Aust people, We would not have objected nearly as loudly. However, the nations gathered against Aust have shown their colors, killing Aust's people. They could have tried a less damaging and more covert approach to the problem, but they chose not to. Instead they invade Aust and start killing innocents, when it is really the Prime Minister they are after. The Aust people did not deserve the war thrust upon them. Our position is clear: We must defend Aust.

Do Both.
Obviously, you understand what's happening here, but we must not let Palpatine win, and I won't commit ground troops to a war of conquest if I can avoid it-but you have to know that some kind of pressure must be brought to bear, to ensure the life and safety of the Emperor.
I suggest something...different.
Pressure on Credonia to withdraw behind the scenes, but openly withold support until the Emperor is brought forth, alive, and in command.
Without that, Aust's People face only two options:
1-death in a mindless war
2-Oppression and Death under a Tyranny.

You MUST withold your support until you have proof that the Emperor (and ONLY the Emperor) is in command of Aust. It is the only leverage anyone has left to guarantee his safety, and the only means available to push Palpatine out.
The Macabees
21-03-2004, 04:13
The Macabee government has decided to declare war on those belligerent against the Empire of Credonia. The Empire of the Macabees will not tolerate this inate madness.

In the midst of the sea 20 Battleships, 10 Pocket Battleships, 40 Cruisers, 40 Frigates, 100 Patrol Boats, 15 Carriers, 20 Missile Boats, and 60 Destroyers emerge 200km off the coast of Dancing Moose. The naval force had just returned from police actions around Muktar and Zarbia, and had joined together in mid ocean.

The patrol boats kept a 100km radius ASW around the giant fleet, detecting enemy fleet movements 600km away, thus giving the fleet 700km warning, well enough to track even ground movements inside Dancin Moose.

More importantly, with the fleet, some nautical miles away, were 90 nuclear (propelled) submarines, some 125km off the coast, half submerged.
The Macabees
21-03-2004, 04:15
I'll carry this on another thread to avoid confusion.
Dancing Moose
21-03-2004, 04:15
Alright, I will leave protecting the Emporer up to another nation. Untill I am needed elsewhere, for now I will defend the civilians of Aust from any nation that attempts to invade, such as Credonia.
Nuevo Kowloon
21-03-2004, 04:17
The Macabee government has decided to declare war on those belligerent against the Empire of Credonia. The Empire of the Macabees will not tolerate this inate madness.

In the midst of the sea 20 Battleships, 10 Pocket Battleships, 40 Cruisers, 40 Frigates, 100 Patrol Boats, 15 Carriers, 20 Missile Boats, and 60 Destroyers emerge 200km off the coast of Dancing Moose. The naval force had just returned from police actions around Muktar and Zarbia, and had joined together in mid ocean.

The patrol boats kept a 100km radius ASW around the giant fleet, detecting enemy fleet movements 600km away, thus giving the fleet 700km warning, well enough to track even ground movements inside Dancin Moose.

More importantly, with the fleet, some nautical miles away, were 90 nuclear (propelled) submarines, some 125km off the coast, half submerged.


Maccabee, STAY YOUR HAND!!! Good god, man, if this goes off, you've started something that can't be stopped! With proof of life, health, and freedom for Aust's Emperor, we can end Credonia's involvment and this war!
Muktar
21-03-2004, 04:19
Where's the thread? I smell a business opportunity for my mercenaries...
The Macabees
21-03-2004, 04:20
You have brought it upon yourself to direct yourself on something that was of no direct threat to you. Now feel the wrath of two empires looking for but land to whet their insatiable thirst on.

OOC: I sound so evil.. awsome
The Macabees
21-03-2004, 04:21
Where's the thread? I smell a business opportunity for my mercenaries...

OOC: I smell me and Independent Hitmen going in for you again... or not... probably not..w/e
Nuevo Kowloon
21-03-2004, 04:28
You have brought it upon yourself to direct yourself on something that was of no direct threat to you. Now feel the wrath of two empires looking for but land to whet their insatiable thirst on.

OOC: I sound so evil.. awsome

[ooc good spoilerage...]

No. Look-if you start firing, then this "Coalition" against Credonia will gain momentum, I've just about gotten the smarter ones seeing reason, If you move now, you'll get the innocent along with the guilty!
Hold Back, at least hold back for a while-long enough to let some kind of REASON work on these people.
Dancing Moose
21-03-2004, 04:28
So your attacking the entire region of Antarctica, much less, me. God, if any nations will come to my aid in defending myself from this unjust attacker, please do so now.


OOC: My closest ally, Shinoxia, is not here, as in on vacation. All I have is a few, small, fellow Antarctic nations to come to aid.

Also, (OOC) Macabees, dont you have to RP your forces getting to 200km off my shore line... I mean... I know (or think) thats international waters but still, thats awful close.. and you got there like in a second.
The Macabees
21-03-2004, 04:33
OOC: Actually, I RPd it correctly.. because even if I RPd it like I was coming, you woundln't be able to react to it anyways.... so its better to save time and just say they emerge there.
Nuevo Kowloon
21-03-2004, 04:36
So your attacking the entire region of Antarctica, much less, me. God, if any nations will come to my aid in defending myself from this unjust attacker, please do so now.


OOC: My closest ally, Shinoxia, is not here, as in on vacation. All I have is a few, small, fellow Antarctic nations to come to aid.

Also, (OOC) Macabees, dont you have to RP your forces getting to 200km off my shore line... I mean... I know (or think) thats international waters but still, thats awful close.. and you got there like in a second.

[ooc Good point. I have a task-group in the area and one on the way with orders to try and keep the peace-check the Aust Massacres thread.]

Dancing Moose, we would be happy to assist you as a fellow Austian Ally in preventing this from blowing further out of proportion. To that end, I am redirecting the NKS Saigon battlegroup to stand in International Waters between the Macabees, and your coastline, as peacekeepers-if you so wish. My ships will remain non-hostile so long as you remain non-hostile, and continue to consider whether you wish to be a part of this, ahh... "Coalition" or not.
We consider you to be Neutrals in this situation, and will persist in that view until you show yourselves overtly inclined to support Mr. Palpatine.

NKS Saigon Battlegroup:

NKS Saigon- Essex-improved class CVA
NKS Trung-Trang Iowa Class BB
3 Ticonderoga Class Cruisers
2 Arleigh Burkes
3 Bainbridge Class destroyers
10 Frigates (Various models)
2 Hong class Submarines.

Yeah, we're small, but we're here.
The Macabees
21-03-2004, 04:37
So your attacking the entire region of Antarctica, much less, me. God, if any nations will come to my aid in defending myself from this unjust attacker, please do so now.


OOC: My closest ally, Shinoxia, is not here, as in on vacation. All I have is a few, small, fellow Antarctic nations to come to aid.

Also, (OOC) Macabees, dont you have to RP your forces getting to 200km off my shore line... I mean... I know (or think) thats international waters but still, thats awful close.. and you got there like in a second.
OOC: And if you want to bring your allies into this I'll be sure to tell Artitsa (1.4 billion), Zossen (1.5 billion), New Bisons (1.5 billion) and Skullz (somewhere high) into this as well.
Dancing Moose
21-03-2004, 04:49
I am pulling out military involvement in the conflict between Aust and Credonia, although I will provide moral and diplomatic support.

AKA, im now neutral.
Central Facehuggeria
21-03-2004, 04:53
OOC: It is times like this that I wish I knew enough about naval combat to acceptably RP a fleet action. *Sigh* Once it turns into a ground war, then I can participate more flexibly.

IC: Central Facehuggeria condemns The Macabees and their destabilization of an already unstable conflict. We are working on getting the Aust Prime Minister to leave willingly. The Coalition against Credonia will most likely be going into temporary retirement (OOC:until Credonia resolves his personal problems) Peace finally appears within our grasp, what need is there for further bloodshed? What purpose could it serve, but to expand your already massive country?
Phyrric
21-03-2004, 06:30
Message sent to Nuevo Kowloon:
From Pyrrhus

Your diplomatic efforts have fallen on deaf ears as was anticipated and foreseen. The assistance that was provided to our government in the time of need has not gone unnoticed and we will assist your efforts here.

The Nation of Phyrric has issued an intent of Protectorite over Nuevo Kowloon. Any aggressive actions against Nuevo Kowloon is an act of aggression against Phyrric.

eom

The government and people of Phyrric has not forgotten the past injustices and hostilities that The Macabees has issued against Phyrric.
Adaptus Astrates
21-03-2004, 09:37
the ICBM satellite was already neutrallised by me. We thank you for your assistance in this conflict

:oops: Sorry, I didn't know. Still, theres plenty of Credonia to go around. Good job Huzen Hagen!
Holy panooly
21-03-2004, 10:29
can someone make a summary about the whole thing?
Midlonia
21-03-2004, 10:54
The Empire issues another statement on nukes (for those who didnt read other thread):

We will not tolerate thier use. We will rip the limbs off of whoever, even were it the largest nation in the game, uses them.

OOC: i'm scared... :roll:

IC: The Greater Empire of Midlonia will enter the war on Credonia's side, should he bother recognising this thread of course...
Holy panooly
21-03-2004, 11:59
as i stated in a recent thread, I recieved inside information that this would happen and i have been secretyly forming a rather LARGE coalition to thwart any attacks. I will invoke MANY of my pacts and call upon my coalition of nations if an attack is carried out. If you have a problem with us, come to the negotiation table (i aint goin to war cuz im tryin to go on vacation, wat dont u peeps get)

No matter how big your alliance is, you ain't going to get away this time.

Midlonia, Fluffywuffy can beat you any day of the week.
21-03-2004, 12:05
Credonia is under the Official Protection of the Colonial Armed Forces. Credonia will and shall be defended by all means, and will be safe by all terms. Anyone found to be violating Colonial Protected Nations will be delt with accordingly.

Henceforth any Nation attacking a Colonial Protected Nation will and shall instantly become an enemy of Nodea Rudav. That enemy will and shall be delt with accordingly, by any means, and will be made to surrender by any means.

Colonial Protected Nations:

-All Nations Within the ASDU (Allied Socialist Defense Union) and the ASDU itself
-Credonia
-Doujin
-Catania-Malatinov <(Sorry if typo....)
-Many Others which will be officially named wherein a list is created of Colonial Protected Nations.
Holy panooly
21-03-2004, 12:11
Catania-Marinov is currently against Credonia. So you're taking both sides right now. Which makes you a target for both parties.
21-03-2004, 12:15
The Decleration of Colonial Allied Protection enables the following:

1. Nodea Rudav to Protect Allied Nations
2. Nodea Rudav to ensure Fighting Ceases between Allied Nations
3. Nodea Rudav to keep Peace between Allied Nations
4. Nodea Rudav to use Non-Lethal Force to keep the Peace between Allied Nations

Much, much, more.
Holy panooly
21-03-2004, 12:21
You have to protect both nations from being attacked. Now let me get this straight: Catania attacks Cred, you defend Cred. Cred attacks Catania and then you have to defend Catania. Isn't that quite confusing for your own men to fight the "enemy" on one front and to defend the same "enemy" on another front? Or am I completely off the mark now?
21-03-2004, 12:22
Peacemaking and Peacekeeping are two in the same with two Allies at each other throats.
Holy panooly
21-03-2004, 12:24
That's not an answer... I want to know how you can do this whitout pissing off alot of other nations.
21-03-2004, 12:31
Easy, send a Task Force to Sub-Space to SOL, Sub-Space again to Earth from Far out on Sol, proceed to land Colonial Marines in Modified Buran Space Shuttles along with Colonial Special Forces and Armored Units, un which all Guns held by Soldiers will be Rubber with Armored being real for defense, the initiate Peacekeeping by keeping one Country from killing the other and at the same time send troops to ready forces at the other nations borders and attempt to stop further hostilities.
Holy panooly
21-03-2004, 12:34
Remember, this is NO space tech as far as I know.
21-03-2004, 12:49
Remember:

Allies shall be kept safe at any cost, as long as its fair and non-lethal.

Pro-Modern Space/Ground is basicly 2040-45 tech with same designs as Modern, somewhat, yet, ya know....
Holy panooly
21-03-2004, 13:38
Sorry to say but it's 2004 at the moment...
21-03-2004, 14:00
We will help Aust with the following.
3,000 T-80's
400 F-16's
100 Tornado GR4's
18,000 army rifleman
3,000 special forces.
10,000 medics
10,000 engineers.


ALSO...Credonia will NEVER EVER be my ally again...i listened to him way to much...
Holy panooly
21-03-2004, 14:42
OOC: first you are credonia's ally, then you ally yourself with me and then with Credonia again and now with us again... Will you make up your mind?
Independent Hitmen
21-03-2004, 15:07
Where's the thread? I smell a business opportunity for my mercenaries...

OOC: I smell me and Independent Hitmen going in for you again... or not... probably not..w/e

OOC:I have that smell too. The mobilisation in my next post is so that i am prepared. the troops are going nowhere at the current time until credonia is sorted out. Although Muktar may be recieveing some.
Holy panooly
21-03-2004, 15:12
Creddy still hasn't replied damnit
Phoenixius
21-03-2004, 15:16
Muktar was only refering to the other thread not to go to war against you but to sell you his mercenaries to help you. I wouldn't attack him merely for wanting to make a buisness venture with you guys.


The Phoenixius Council
Director of Intelligence


My nation's site: Phoenixius (http://www.freewebs.com/phoenixius)
My storefront: PIMS (http://s4.invisionfree.com/The_Unforgiven_Board/index.php?showforum=18)
My NS storefront: PIMS in NS (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=131891)
The Unforgiven's site: The Unforgiven (http://www.freewebs.com/unforgivenregion)
21-03-2004, 15:26
OOC: first you are credonia's ally, then you ally yourself with me and then with Credonia again and now with us again... Will you make up your mind?
im not his ally...he used me....NEVER AGAIN...
GameFAQ
21-03-2004, 15:30
OOC: first you are credonia's ally, then you ally yourself with me and then with Credonia again and now with us again... Will you make up your mind?
im not his ally...he used me....NEVER AGAIN...

Credonia tried to use me to! At least WE (meaning Catania-Marinov) are still allies!
Holy panooly
21-03-2004, 15:35
You let him use you... But this is besides the point.

SECRET IC: (For all the mind readers out there I'll gladly post you a detailed explanation how the code works.)

The Keystone Project

We must NOT be the first one to attack them otherwise we'll be labeled as the agressor and that's not what we want. So I have come up with a cunning plan to let them attack us. First we have "trigger" some small events which wakes them up.
Note: these events must be kept small, not a direct provocation. It must stirr up agression, not war.
These events can range from small revolts, public airplanes flying in the wrong direction small things which makes them mad. With a few of these small things they will be sure lauch missiles at us in the first stages when it comes to actual war.
You need buy lots of Anti Missile Batteries (AMB) and Anti ICMB laser airplanes. These units will lower the number of missiles fired against you significantly.
More to come later.
Over & out.
Central Facehuggeria
21-03-2004, 15:39
OOC: I still think we should let Credonia sort out his personal problems. More time is a win-win for everyone. It lets him resolve RL problems, and it gives us more time to build alliances, armies, defenses, etc...
Also, just to warn you, I am primarily a space tech nation, so my modern tech forces aren't particularly large.


IC: We need to buy time.
Holy panooly
21-03-2004, 15:44
IC: we are still building facehugger don't you worry about anything. We have this situation under controll.

OOC: Also true.
Abrams
21-03-2004, 16:34
The President has put the following forces into intensive training in preparation for any action that may have to be taken.

1st Army

1st Army is composed of of 3 Corps Units:

V Corps

19th Infantry Division: 200 M1A2 Abrams MBT's, 200 M2 Bradley IFV's(SPG;s MLRS, air detachment etc.)
20th Mechanized Infantry Division: 350 M1A2 Abrams MBT's, 350 M2 Bradley IFV's (SPG;s MLRS, air detachment etc.)
26th Infantry Division: 200 M1A2 Abrams MBT's, 200 M2 Bradley IFV's(SPG;s MLRS, air detachment etc.)
27th Armoured: 400 M1A2 Abrams MBT's, 120 M2 Bradley IFV's, (SPG;s MLRS, air detachment etc.)
98th Heavy Infantry (Mechanized): 290 M1A2 MBT's, 360 M2 Bradleys (SPG;s MLRS, air detachment etc.)

VI Corps

14th Infantry Division: 200 M1A2 Abrams MBT's, 200 M2 Bradley IFV's(SPG;s MLRS, air detachment etc.)
15th Infantry Division: 200 M1A2 Abrams MBT's, 200 M2 Bradley IFV's(SPG;s MLRS, air detachment etc.)
24th Armoured Cavalry Regiment: 60 M1A2's, 45 M2 Bradley Cavalry Scout's. Plus HMMWV's Air Wing etc.
144th Armoured Division: 420 M1A2 Abrams MBT's, 150 M2 Bradley IFV's, (SPG;s MLRS, air detachment etc.)
131st Armoured Division: 450 M1A2 Abrams MBT's, 180 M2 Bradley IFV's, (SPG;s MLRS, air detachment etc.)
145th Mech Infantry:350 M1A2 Abrams MBT's, 350 M2 Bradley IFV's (SPG;s MLRS, air detachment etc.)

VII Corps

3rd Mechanized Infantry Division: 270 M1A2 Abrams MBT's, 350 M2 Bradley IFV's (SPG;s MLRS, air detachment etc.)
8th Heavy Armoured Division: 500 M1A2 Abrams MBT's, 120 M2 Bradley IFV's (SPG;s MLRS, air detachment etc.)
21st Heavy Mechanized Infantry Division: 350 M1A2 Abrams MBT's, 350 M2 Bradleys. (SPG's, MLRS, Air detachment etc)
33rd Mechanized Infantry: 350 M1A2 Abrams MBT's, 350 M2 Bradley IFV's (SPG;s MLRS, air detachment etc.)
112th Armoured Division: 450 M1A2 Abrams MBT's, 180 M2 Bradley IFV's, (SPG;s MLRS, air detachment etc.)


These will be supplemented by MP battalions, artillery and avaiatin regiments that can be assigned at Corps commanders disgretion and extra small units (Special Forces)
Holy panooly
21-03-2004, 16:43
Action against who?
Abrams
21-03-2004, 16:51
OOC:I apologize i forgot to say. these units are supporting those of the USIH.
Holy panooly
21-03-2004, 17:02
and you are allied with Aust?
Central Facehuggeria
21-03-2004, 17:05
I don't believe so. USIH is Credonia's principle ally. I suspect he is going to try and invade Aust.
Holy panooly
21-03-2004, 17:17
Damn
FutureEngland
21-03-2004, 20:52
OOC: we should call our selves The coalition for the protection of Aust
Aust
21-03-2004, 22:09
OOC: What happens while your away :D

IC: THE Advisor sat in his bunker listening to the sounds of fighting above. Beside him, bound lay the emporer. The watched a battle map showing the progress of his fighters, distroying NK force and then radiostoks, he sent the remianing planes to combat Alleneas thrust. Above it fell silent as the last marine fell and the sentinals where destroyed, men would now be digging graves, and running for cover before Alleneas EMP missiles arrived. He smiled, it was all going to plan, better than to plan. The enermy had fallen for it and now their emporer was prisinor, the Credonians where humbled, well almost. And Aust looked as though it would survive from the last enermy attack. He no longer needed the Emporer so he raised a pistol to the boys head and fired.
The emporer slumped and soon, if his plans worked he would be in control of Aust, and war would commence. The world was his.
Elves Security Forces
21-03-2004, 22:24
OCC: Well now that the emporer is dead , I have no reason to fight anymore.
IC: All the ESF forces inside of Aust immedately senced the emporer's death. Knowing they could no longer achieve thier goal , they threw down thier weapons and headed for the border. Upon reaching the border safely, a rescue team was waiting for them and transported them back home.
President CeleKorn knew now that thier former ally was no under the control of a madman. All diplomatic relations with Aust were canceled and all ties cut.
Nuevo Kowloon
22-03-2004, 07:40
BUmp
Austar Union
22-03-2004, 07:51
TAG
Guerrillistan
22-03-2004, 10:52
Guerrillistan a long term enemy of Credonia would like to join but won't (too many already and i dont want to see thread turn to number/ally wank thread)

Anyways i feel if Credonia cannot be defeated due to RL problems then i suggest you take out his allies.
Austar Union
22-03-2004, 11:00
Guerrillistan a long term enemy of Credonia would like to join but won't (too many already and i dont want to see thread turn to number/ally wank thread)

Anyways i feel if Credonia cannot be defeated due to RL problems then i suggest you take out his allies.

Really? Is that how you feel is it?
Independent Hitmen
22-03-2004, 13:45
OOC: Looks like Guerrillistan's on the attack list!! lol.

IC: We are glad of the support from the Holy Empire of Abrams. BEing our oldest and most trusted ally we had no doubt that you would help us in this time of conflict.

OOC2: Post my troops later bit busy atm.
Adaptus Astrates
22-03-2004, 15:31
*AA Central Command*
Air Vice Marshall Raven: (to all in the room) Gentlmen, in 30 minutes time we will begin operation Lightning. The systematic destruction off Credonia's airforce. I want our F22A Raptors to be airbourne in 20.

Captain: We will be able to deploy a quater of the F22A force within the our. That is, a quater, it does take time to co-orinate a mass deployment of aircraft.

Raven: We shall not make the same mistake the Nazis did, so we will not randomly change targets. (goes and picks up a ringing phone) Raven here. Very good sir. Yes we understand. Good evening.(puts phone down)
Alright everyone listen here. We have been ordered by the chancellor to also deploy F15 Eagles, as they've never been shot down eversince first going into service. Thats it. Carry on.

(everyone returns to work)
Nuevo Kowloon
22-03-2004, 19:05
[off the Antarctic coastline...]

The feed came in both video, and audio, and that was a good thing. Bertrude's face, along with her voice, was clear and clean.

"Huang, the Radar transmitters, are they recalibrated?" Commodore Trung asked.
"Yes Sir. We're ready to rebroadcast...Boy, I wonder how this use would look to the designers..." Huang replied.
Trung shrugged. "I don't know. Is the Sattelite feed also ready, Mister Giap?"

The Comtech nodded, "Ready, sir. Between the transmitters here, and the sats, we should have one-hundered percent coverage of Aust, and quite a bit of coverage in the neighbouring nations."

Trung nodded. "Good, inform the other ships to commence rebroadcast in five."



Please stand by for an announcement from Princess Bertrude of Aust:

"People of Aust, people of the world, I call to you today to condemm the reign of Palpatine, the prime minister of Aust. Many of you may balive that the Emporer gave him that tital as a reward but, in fact he wishes to hold the seat of Emporer for himself. He is a cruel and evil dictator and has no mercy. I expect that soon you'll here the Emporer died in an enermy attack but he did not, Palpatine himself will have killed him and it is only Palpatine to blame. People of Aust come to arms, to protect your emporer. You have killed many good men of Midlonia, ESF and NK but for this I do not blame you I blame palpatine. Come people of Aust and help me save your Emporer!"


"You think it'll do any good?" Trung wondered aloud, as the signal came out of the NK Fleet at more than a million watts, swamping civilian AM, FM, Television, and some military shortwave bands. If a radio was playing, right now in Aust, it would be playing Bertrude's announcement-if a Television was on, her face, not whatever the local programming was, was on the screen, her voice in the room.

"If you're gonna say it, say it loud, and say it proud-are they getting this in Keyshona, I wonder?" Trung asked rhetorically.
Huang shrugged, "I think they might be getting this in Phyrric-the bounce is good, and some of the Frigates are pushing it on the HAM bands."

The Submarines got into the act as well-going from "Passive" to "Active"-Pumping the message out using their active Sonar-effectively going from 'silent hole in the water' to "Princess Bertrude's undersea soapbox" in an instant. Sonar recievers on hunter-killer and Ballistic Missile subs were suddenly hearing the same thing from ten locations offshore-and it was LOUD, echoing off of undersea rocks, setting off vibrations in ice... and letting every sub belonging to a SAND nation know exactly where the NK Subs were.
Wazican
23-03-2004, 06:00
As Emperor Aaronius looks at his TAC reports coming out of Aust things were'nt looking good on his southern border. He immediatly called the head of all military forces in Wazican into a meeting to outline what he wanted and how he was reacting to the reports coming in.

"I have no F#$# clue what the hell is going on inside of Aust but all I know is we must honor our alliances. As you all know we are not only allied to our brothers in the south through border connections but he is a fellow Antarctican, and a member of SAND, therefor we must help him in his time of great need. I want our entire military to go into full alert and to have planes in the air at all times ready for an attack. Also I want our 4 reserve legions totaling at over a million men to be brought up to active duty, pass out weapons to the citizens in the event of an invasion. Now that is all for our own force deployments, Aust sent me an urgant telegram requesting planes, I plan to send over 500 of our new F-16 variants that perform especially well in our region. Also have the Grand White Fleet of Wazican ready to move in to assist in the naval portion of this war. Untill I can better asses the situation no Wazican forces will be sent to aid excluding humanitarian aid and the aircraft. That is all dismissed."

OOC:Sorry for such a crappy RP, but I'm kindof rushed. I havent been keeping up with this situation nearly as well as I should. Can somebody give me a quick rundown about why everybody is fighting and if there are actually ground troops in Aust? I would really appreciate it, thanks.
Independent Hitmen
23-03-2004, 13:55
*AA Central Command*
Air Vice Marshall Raven: (to all in the room) Gentlmen, in 30 minutes time we will begin operation Lightning. The systematic destruction off Credonia's airforce. I want our F22A Raptors to be airbourne in 20.

Captain: We will be able to deploy a quater of the F22A force within the our. That is, a quater, it does take time to co-orinate a mass deployment of aircraft.

Raven: We shall not make the same mistake the Nazis did, so we will not randomly change targets. (goes and picks up a ringing phone) Raven here. Very good sir. Yes we understand. Good evening.(puts phone down)
Alright everyone listen here. We have been ordered by the chancellor to also deploy F15 Eagles, as they've never been shot down eversince first going into service. Thats it. Carry on.

(everyone returns to work)

OOC: Thats no F-15 in RL, plenty have been shot down in NS.
Aust
23-03-2004, 16:59
OOC: Yep.

The advisor now the new emporer of Aust prepared a statement to the world. "The old emporer of Aust is dead. Killed in an enermy attack. Ignore what that trator in NK said. Trust me and it will be a new age of Austian supremicy and I ask for your support. We shall take our revenge on those who killed the Emporer and they shall burn as he burned. This I ask you. People of Aust will you help me, your new emporer! Emporer Palpatine?"
Stevid
23-03-2004, 17:26
HMS Cornwall II

Captain:Helm, steer eight degrees to port. Weapons status?

Weapons Officer:Cannons ready to fire. Cruise Missiles ready. Torpedoes ready.

Radar Opperations:Sir, large enemy fleet 87 degrees to starboard... 54 ships, I can't tell who really owns them, they've got mark IV Electronic blocking. I can't get a clear reading!

Starboard Observer:Well I make 78 ships.... Credonian markings.

Captian:Fleet, execute manovers. Battlestations! Communicatios, report to the Admiralty that hostile forces have been sighted. Tell them also whether we should open fire.
Let's see whether we or they make the first move. I sure hope it's us.
Credonia
23-03-2004, 17:42
im ignoring all attacks on credonia...i keep tellin yall that, im not gettin sucked into a war when im leaving NS THIS WEEK, secondly, we never killed the emperor. we only surropunded the building, and that was in a ost made last week we havent done anything since so back the fuck off Stevid
Aust
23-03-2004, 17:45
im ignoring all attacks on credonia...i keep tellin yall that, im not gettin sucked into a war when im leaving NS THIS WEEK, secondly, we never killed the emperor. we only surropunded the building, and that was in a ost made last week we havent done anything since so back the f--- off Stevid
:ets just suspend this, sorry I didn't know you where going away. Continue it on the Aust massicars credonian citizens thread. Then creonian dosn't have to do anything. Sorry Creddy. I didn't know :oops:
Credonia
23-03-2004, 17:46
To bring some sense of stability to the situation, Emperor Sutton has ordered the demobilization of forces in Aust. They will be returning, however, Aust is no longer considered a Credonian ally, and all ties with this traitor nation have been cut off. This is effective immediatly
Aust
23-03-2004, 17:50
To bring some sense of stability to the situation, Emperor Sutton has ordered the demobilization of forces in Aust. They will be returning, however, Aust is no longer considered a Credonian ally, and all ties with this traitor nation have been cut off. This is effective immediatly
offical line:Aust recives this action with joyUnoffical line: most people are disippointed with this action.
The Blue Eagle
23-03-2004, 20:50
HRH King Christopherus IV of The Supreme Democratic Kingdom of The Blue Eagle pledges his alliance with Aust, and, in light of Credonian withdrawal of troops, has taken the most honourable decision, after much consultation with the Rt. Hon. Prime Minister, Georgia Pringle, has decided to, as opposed to deploying troops, ordering three of The Blue Eagle's most prized ships to remain alert, HMS York, HMS Supremius, and HMS Vulpine. The Rt. Hon. Minister for Defence, Eeky McSqueaky, announced that he would be delighted to assume control for this scouting operation.
Nuevo Kowloon
24-03-2004, 07:47
Chancery, Nuevo Kowloon...

Assistant to the Chancellor Nhi Matalin read Credonias announcement, and looked out the window. The Isolationist protesters were quite a bit fewer today, in the wake of the assassination attempt on the Chancellor.
Amanda's going to be pissed... oh well...
She re-read the announcement of Palpatine's accession again, and compared it to the Credonian pull-out.
Better call Bertrude, let her know our policy won't change... at least, not for a while.

She eyed the phone, and sat down. No. Let her call here, or see the boss in ICU... if we're going to move forward in this relationship, we can't keep playing little sister.
Aust
24-03-2004, 17:55
Chancery, Nuevo Kowloon...

Assistant to the Chancellor Nhi Matalin read Credonias announcement, and looked out the window. The Isolationist protesters were quite a bit fewer today, in the wake of the assassination attempt on the Chancellor.
Amanda's going to be pissed... oh well...
She re-read the announcement of Palpatine's accession again, and compared it to the Credonian pull-out.
Better call Bertrude, let her know our policy won't change... at least, not for a while.

She eyed the phone, and sat down. No. Let her call here, or see the boss in ICU... if we're going to move forward in this relationship, we can't keep playing little sister.
Thank you Blue eagle.

Beatrude called the NK goverment building. "Did you here what Palpatine has done? He's killed my cousain. I'm supposed to be Emporess! What should we do?..."
Aust
24-03-2004, 17:57
Chancery, Nuevo Kowloon...

Assistant to the Chancellor Nhi Matalin read Credonias announcement, and looked out the window. The Isolationist protesters were quite a bit fewer today, in the wake of the assassination attempt on the Chancellor.
Amanda's going to be pissed... oh well...
She re-read the announcement of Palpatine's accession again, and compared it to the Credonian pull-out.
Better call Bertrude, let her know our policy won't change... at least, not for a while.

She eyed the phone, and sat down. No. Let her call here, or see the boss in ICU... if we're going to move forward in this relationship, we can't keep playing little sister.
Thank you Blue eagle.

Beatrude called the NK goverment building. "Did you here what Palpatine has done? He's killed my cousain. I'm supposed to be Emporess! What should we do?..."
Nuevo Kowloon
25-03-2004, 07:47
Chancery, Nuevo Kowloon...

Assistant to the Chancellor Nhi Matalin read Credonias announcement, and looked out the window. The Isolationist protesters were quite a bit fewer today, in the wake of the assassination attempt on the Chancellor.
Amanda's going to be pissed... oh well...
She re-read the announcement of Palpatine's accession again, and compared it to the Credonian pull-out.
Better call Bertrude, let her know our policy won't change... at least, not for a while.

She eyed the phone, and sat down. No. Let her call here, or see the boss in ICU... if we're going to move forward in this relationship, we can't keep playing little sister.
Thank you Blue eagle.

Beatrude called the NK goverment building. "Did you here what Palpatine has done? He's killed my cousain. I'm supposed to be Emporess! What should we do?..."

Nhi Matalin (Amanda's "Second") answered the call.
"The Chancellor is in surgery-she's been shot, but we've been working on your problem... You need to form a Provisional Government, get as many of your citizens that are out of the country, and as many of your Foreign Service people as you can together because it's going to be difficult to get aid in to your supporters inside your country. For a while, you're going to have some Financial difficulties as well-unless you can access offshore accounts, you're not drawing on a tax base. Amanda's already noted your Embassy as being rent-free, and we're prepared to cover some of your operating expenses. Key moves need to centre around setting up financing for your resistance ops, and establishing a line for providing material support. You should also begin making speeches-lots and lots of them, we need to prepare a propoganda offensive focusing on three areas-first being to get your National allies with Sea-access to lend a hand supplying the resistance-that's something that your group must work on-smuggling by air from transport ships means aid is a trickle, moving it overland from a port, we can supply a LOT more-and bringing in some of the other Antarctican Countries means we can maybe stage some real support for anti-Palpatine operations. We're prepared to provide your forces with weapons, electronic, propoganda, and direct support-but... we need you to find us a route to get the stuff in, and you must convince the SAND Nations to let us deliver the supplies-otherwise we're fighting two wars, and that means supply goes in a trickle. You also need to make speeches. That last one was a good start, now you need to condemn him as a liar, and accuse him of the murder. Then, demand that Justice be done. This is especially critical in this early stage."
Aust
25-03-2004, 18:30
"PEople of Aust and SLOA. And People of All other nations. I ask you for aid. The Emporer of Aust Emporer Palpatine, is a upster. He took the throne by forse. He killed the old Emporer, a boy only 14 of age. Tried to start a massave war. I have here a E-Mail sne tby Emporer John stating that he knew what was going on!"
"People of Aust. Palpatine says that the Emporer was killed in a missile attack. HE WAS NOT! How could he be killed in an EMP attack."
"People of SLOA and other nations. Help me in this time."

<<<< Transmission from the ARP (Aust Resistants party)>>>>
[code]
To: Nuevo Kowloon
From The ARP

We are the ARP a group dedicated to defeating the reign of Palpatine. We are lead by duke Hamish and Duke Robert. They both command provences. We have a fortress. (The one by Blood Pass.) And an airstrip. We are recruiting men. We have a group of 12,000 men. We plan to keep recruiting and to try to defeat the Emporer. We balive our cousain Bea who is now, by the laws of Aust, Emporess. We shall do what we can but we need supplys. Fly them into the small airstrip 1.24 KM from blood pass. It is between a mountain with twin peaks one of which looks like a rams horn. We have a tunnel from their to blood pass. The Airport can take any type of plane. If you can help us and we succsed then we shall do whatever we can to help you in future.

The ARP


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"TO long have these meddlers at NK been harrasing us. Harbouring trators and lying enermys. We must destroy them. Send three fortress ships to NK. Land on the nearest beach support them on their landing with 15 wing and 16 wing (Bomber reserves) protected by 5 and 6 wing (Fighters. They can distroy their beach defences. 1 wing, (fighters) to protect 7 wing (Bombers) they will attack NK's capital city. Send 2 wing (Fighters) to defend 8 wing (Bombers.) they will attack the second largest city. Send both 3 and 4 wing (fighters to protect) 10 and 11 wing (Transport.) and land ASS paras near them near the second largest town with an airport. Order the ASS to take the Airport and hold it so we can fly in supplys. Send the rest of our bombers protected by the rest of our fighters to attack NK's 1st, 2nd and 3rd larest citys espectivly. Fire 100 cruise missiles at any other major target. Send an offical declearation of war on NK. And kill that woman" The Emporer told his senor generals.
"Which woman sir?"
"Bea."
"Yes Sir."
Independent Hitmen
25-03-2004, 18:37
OOC: Mind if i send supplies and some "advisors" to the ARP?
Aust
25-03-2004, 18:44
OOC: Mind if i send supplies and some "advisors" to the ARP?
OOC: Of Course The ARP is going to send a message to all those who they think may help them and are enermys of PAlpatine. Just RP them.

IC: The Aust planes took off, their where over 1500 of them and they where all heading towards one nation.

OOC: 1 Wing(Fighter) 144 planes. Most wings are missing planes or have planes out of damge ect so proberly about 120 planes.
1 bomber wing= 80 planes.
1 transport wing= 180 planes each plane holds 10 men.
Independent Hitmen
25-03-2004, 19:02
" Mr President Sir, we have an urgent message from Aust. It appears to be from a breakaway group called the ARP who are rising up against the Emperor who apparently killed the infant heir. They also have a person claimed to be the Emporess."

"What! Find out more about this. This could remove one of Credonias most powerful enemies and if it comes to conflict it means less Hitmen dead." He picked up his phone "Jane, get me General Siler in here ASAP"

Two minutes later General Siler walked into the Presidents spacious office.

"Yes Sir." he said as he walked in

"Roger have you seen this report from Aust yet?"

"Just finished reading it Sir" he replied "Makes interesting reading dont it. I think we should act upon it. Sat Intel says that a large formation of Aust Aircraft have been seen taking off and heading for these newly independent areas. We dont have to get in fully, supplies and maybe some special ops. We could also supply some Patriots and Stingers so they can defend themselves?"

"Thats what i was thinking. Do we have the man power in place to get supplies their way within 24hours?"

"That would be pushing it Sir" was the cautios reply "We would want the Phantom battle group to be a little closer although still in International Waters incase we lose a C-5 or two. We also need to look at routes in for the birds to minimise that risk."

"Ok. As soon as its ready get it done. I also want some hardware on ships incase we have to go a little further. Whats avaliable?"

"Everything Sir. VII Corps just came off a training cycle, so some equipment is down for maintence. I Corps can be at the coast and loading its equipment on RO/RO ships by tomorrow evening."

"Ok make it happen. Get the airforce and Navy on increased alert incase they decide to retaliate and get increased Sat Coverage."


At Fort Hammond the Special Ops Command got its orders. Immeadiately a team of 12 was dispatched via C-130 to a base in Redge to begin its movement around the world.

A short response was also sent to the Aust contact that the original message had come from informing them that help was on its way and to expect a team within the day.

OOC: I know theres some wrong info in ther but it would look like that to them.
Adaptus Astrates
25-03-2004, 19:35
*AA Central Command*
Air Vice Marshall Raven: (to all in the room) Gentlmen, in 30 minutes time we will begin operation Lightning. The systematic destruction off Credonia's airforce. I want our F22A Raptors to be airbourne in 20.

Captain: We will be able to deploy a quater of the F22A force within the our. That is, a quater, it does take time to co-orinate a mass deployment of aircraft.

Raven: We shall not make the same mistake the Nazis did, so we will not randomly change targets. (goes and picks up a ringing phone) Raven here. Very good sir. Yes we understand. Good evening.(puts phone down)
Alright everyone listen here. We have been ordered by the chancellor to also deploy F15 Eagles, as they've never been shot down eversince first going into service. Thats it. Carry on.

(everyone returns to work)

OOC: Thats no F-15 in RL, plenty have been shot down in NS.


It saddens me to hear that. Ha, it just shows that F15s are not invinceble.
Still, my ones shall be put into action.
Aust
25-03-2004, 21:30
" Mr President Sir, we have an urgent message from Aust. It appears to be from a breakaway group called the ARP who are rising up against the Emperor who apparently killed the infant heir. They also have a person claimed to be the Emporess."

"What! Find out more about this. This could remove one of Credonias most powerful enemies and if it comes to conflict it means less Hitmen dead." He picked up his phone "Jane, get me General Siler in here ASAP"

Two minutes later General Siler walked into the Presidents spacious office.

"Yes Sir." he said as he walked in

"Roger have you seen this report from Aust yet?"

"Just finished reading it Sir" he replied "Makes interesting reading dont it. I think we should act upon it. Sat Intel says that a large formation of Aust Aircraft have been seen taking off and heading for these newly independent areas. We dont have to get in fully, supplies and maybe some special ops. We could also supply some Patriots and Stingers so they can defend themselves?"

"Thats what i was thinking. Do we have the man power in place to get supplies their way within 24hours?"

"That would be pushing it Sir" was the cautios reply "We would want the Phantom battle group to be a little closer although still in International Waters incase we lose a C-5 or two. We also need to look at routes in for the birds to minimise that risk."

"Ok. As soon as its ready get it done. I also want some hardware on ships incase we have to go a little further. Whats avaliable?"

"Everything Sir. VII Corps just came off a training cycle, so some equipment is down for maintence. I Corps can be at the coast and loading its equipment on RO/RO ships by tomorrow evening."

"Ok make it happen. Get the airforce and Navy on increased alert incase they decide to retaliate and get increased Sat Coverage."


At Fort Hammond the Special Ops Command got its orders. Immeadiately a team of 12 was dispatched via C-130 to a base in Redge to begin its movement around the world.

A short response was also sent to the Aust contact that the original message had come from informing them that help was on its way and to expect a team within the day.

OOC: I know theres some wrong info in ther but it would look like that to them.
[code:1:cfc1e2c78e]
To: IH
From:ARP

Thank you for your aid. We currently have ,any men at our desposal. As all Austs air power (Or most of it) Is being targeted at NK would 12:00 today or tommorrow be a good time to fly in supplys?

[/code:1:cfc1e2c78e]

The Aust planes flew past the base at blood pass and over Elvindom. The missiles, outstriping the planes where only 2 hours away. The planes where 4 hours away. But allied countrys and refuling tankers waited. They had enough fuel. The ships where 5 hours away. But their refuling tankers. Along with the ones that followed the amarder. Would reful them an hour away and then refuel them on the way back. From the fortress ships. From the Fortress ships rose 12 squadrons of fighters and 8 of bombers that would fly above NK's main capital city and drop incedranty bombs just before the sun completly set.
Phyrric
26-03-2004, 06:18
"As per past pledge and protectorite status, the Nation of Phyrric hereby pledges 600 X35 fighters, 125,000 troops and 240 armor units to the defense of Nuevo Kowloon from the assault from the Nation of Aust. All relation between Aust and Phyrric has been severed as the mandate has been ignored.

All units are ordered to engage and eliminate any enemy forces within the Nation of Nuevo Kowloon."

The fighters will be arriving within 12 hours, the ground forces will be arriving within 72 hours. These forces are for defensive posture only and not to be utilized for missions outside of Nuevo Kowloon.
Independent Hitmen
26-03-2004, 12:44
At the Air Strip the C-130 banked slowly and began its approach run. Inside the Special Ops guys pulled on their body armour and cocked their weapons. They were wearing standard issue cammo trousers, and carried unmarked weapons with bodyarmour of similar style to that of Delta Force. They wore T-shirts instead of army issue tops and all wore civilian sun glasses. Most had M4 Carbines. Two had M249 SAW's for fire support.

In the back of the Herc there were also ammunition and some light mortars that had been hastily got together and stripped of ID.


Four Hours behind them were several more C-130's carrying more ammunition and another special ops team. Heavier weapons were being loaded onto C-5s and C-17s back in the USIH.
Navy F-22s from the Phantom and Conquerer were flying escort missions with the transports.
Independent Hitmen
26-03-2004, 19:09
The C-130 touched down on the Air Strip and taxied towards the main building. The SF men disembarked behind their leader, Colonel Jack O'Neill (you gotta love SG-1) and moved towards the welcoming commitee.
Aust
26-03-2004, 19:57
The ARP men began to unload the transport plane.

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The planes are 1 hour away and have refuled. (Move forward all times of arrivel 3 hours that means the missiles would have hit. The 1st wave would have arrived and the ships are 2 hours from landing.) I wait for losses and enermy attacks.

Phyrric your troops would take time to arrive. About 3 hours after my planes/ ships arrive the troop[s would be about 1 NS day to mobalise and 1 NS day to get their.
Independent Hitmen
26-03-2004, 20:08
The Special Ops find the ARP commander and ask the important question. What do the ARP require?
Aust
26-03-2004, 20:12
The Special Ops find the ARP commander and ask the important question. What do the ARP require?
[i] Weapons mainly. And Armour. Some tanks ect wouldn't be to bad. We've got a good base. Blood pass is a great fortress. Right on the forefront of millatary technology. 500 Yard killing zone. Elvindom troops killed 5,000 Neo Earth legionarrys their, it's never been taken despite peoples best efforts. We need training as well, we are gaining more and more people but training is important. We also need Evac for all our children and non-combatents.
Elves Security Forces
26-03-2004, 20:29
President CeleKorn adressed today that any and all Aust refugees and miltants against the new emporer can find safe haven in The RESF. Also in a secret code to the ARP commander he said:
"I am glad to hear that Aust's own people are resistanting this new dictactor. If you need weapons, just merely ask. Since we are supposed to be nuetral it must be in secret. Good luck and God's speed."
Nuevo Kowloon
27-03-2004, 07:48
[ooc- Sorry for the delay. Had problems logging on to the Forums last couple of days. Am using a friend's machine right now.]



Nha Tranh is a city of 20 million people set some fifty miles west of the nuclear-scarred ruin that was once Hue City- upwind by prevailing winds, which is a good thing, really. Radiation counts are part of the morning weather reports here. Like Ia Drang, Nha Tranh has a small "Footprint"- most of the city is built [i]downward, bunker architecture by a people who've seen Nuclear War in the past, and have prepared for the worst over generations.
The Air Defenses for Nuevo Kowloon begin offshore, with a picket-line of missile frigates, Cruisers, and destroyers, backed by two Carriers and four Battleships equipped with VLS systems.
These are actually the second line- the first, is "The Hammer".
In their frantic rush to "catch up" with the rest of the world, Nuevo Kowloon turned to developing cheap ways to bring down equivalent force on an attacking "Horde"-their cultural nightmare of invasions from the Communist North in the 1960's expressed in a military designed to do one thing: Defend in Depth.
In orbit, as the enormous "Fortress" craft began disgorging fighters and bombers down below, inert junk-declared to be failed sattelites publicly, suddenly turned active.
The Hammer is named for the (now absent) U.S. Army designation of the concept, first expressed in 1963- Thor.
Thor is dreadfully simple in concept, and horribly violent in execution.
Basically, it's "Flying Crowbars". At 1,250 Lbs apiece, each discrete "Crowbar" is a sandwich of Nickel-iron, Tungsten, and Depleted Uranium, sitting on the end of a solid-fuel rocket with a simple steering vane, guided by a simple, optical sensor.
Initially accellerated at 11 gravities straight down, each crowbar is breaking mach 10 by the time it reaches its target.
ECM doesn't work, thermal dampening doesn't work, and Stealthing doesn't work. 1,250 Lbs hitting a target at 60,000 miles per hour releases roughly 1/2 Kiloton of energy, but the penetration!
There are only 200, and perhaps as many as 15% actually hit their targets-but the energy release, and ionization-atmospheric effects of the near-misses put out the equivalent EMP of a Megaton Bomb- apiece.
Carriers escorting the Austian strikeforce will experience the non-elasticity property of water, as hydraulic shock is transferred through the water. Submarines and ship's keels within 150 miles of the impact zone will experience shockwaves similar to, but not exactly like, those produced by "Keel-Breaking" torpedoes, both with the initial "Impact shock", and reverberatory shockwaves from the ocean bottom.
The impacts are visible on Seizmographic equipment throughout the world.

Nuevo Kowloon does not own nuclear weapons.

The waves generated are similar to those produced by oceanic volcaones-in this case, "Harbour Wave" action roughly equal to, but not quite, as violent as the 1905 Tsunami that hit New Jersey. Coastlines protected by island chains (as the Indochinese coastline is) will have a reduced effect-spring tide three months early-of course, the Islands standing in the way aren't as lucky.

But that's the past.

The Naval ships wait-nose-on to the shockwave, until it passes. (this is a RL tactic for dealing with Tsunami activity-being sideways is BAD.)
Then, they restart their electronics, and begin tracking and firing missiles in response, as Austian aircraft, though perhaps dazed a bit by the light show, sudden turbulent winds, and other shockwaves from their journey across the Equator, arrive in range, and (being reasonably survival oriented) begin sinking ships-or at least, doing their damnedest to accomplish same. The NK's have had 12 Hours to prepare. [ooc-Aust is in Antarctica, NK is in Indochina (aka Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia area- it takes an SR-71 more than six hours to cross that mileage-at Mach 3).]
They Know what's coming.
It doesn't stop more than half a million people being on the upper streets of Nha Tranh when the firebombers hit.

Actually, more than a million-but half of the people in the surface areas are consumed immediately as Aust's surviving bombers release their ordnance.

Nuevo Kowloonese Units Casualties:
11th Squadron (24 F-100 fighters)
24th Squadron (22 F-8E3U Interceptors destroyed, 2 damaged)
32nd Interception Squadron (20 F-20SJ fighters destroyed-the entire group.)
NKVF-9 (12 F-100NK fighters destroyed out of 24)
NKVF-11(7 out of 24 destroyed)
NKVF-3 (2 Aircraft destroyed, 3 damaged, 19 recovered)
NKVF-7 (1 Aircraft lost due to mechanical failure.)
NKS Brian Trung (Arleigh Burke Class-destroyed with all hands.)
NKS William Cuong (Ticonderoga Class-significant damage, 37% crew loss)
NKS Saigon (Essex-Modified, Damage to superstructure, angle deck, some hull damage. 800 dead)
NKS Wind Dragon (Iowa Modified, Hull and superstructure damage, VLS bay in turret-ring two slagged, Turret One heavily damaged, damage to portside gun mounts, 950 crew dead so far)

523,000 civilians killed in first wave of fire-bombing. it could have been worse-with the interference, some Austian pilots mistook old Hue for the target-zone, and bombed radioactive ruins instead of inhabited city.

[ooc-That's it for the "Secret Stuff", they've only had a couple of years to put the things up, and I suspect the next airstrike target's going to be the An-Loc Space Center, while Aust's space-borne equipment's going to be going after any more "Failed Sattelites" the NK's put up on the off chance they might have more of the things. There shouldn't be much in the way of long-term damage from the strikes-there won't be, for instance, Radioactive Fallout, and the wave-action will die down quickly enough with distance and time (Great surfing waves for a few days, and a few windstorms in the pacific...) But there should be some consternation and confusion-these people have a relatively small deployable army, and that army is equipped with gear that looks obselete-(I mean, they don't even issue Body Armour or Assault Rifles!) and while they've demonstrated some really, really, nasty infantry (Blood Pass in Aust, Corcyra in Phyrric), they haven't had any massive, crushing, victories in foreign conflicts.

(though taking 12,000 Elvindom troops apart at Blood Pass without knowing about the old fortress there, and what they did to Colonel Davidson's men in Corcyra might count, neither was a sparkling victory. The 1421 men at Blood Pass died to the last man, and the Phyrrician Colonel, along with his Rebel Admiral Leader, escaped capture in spite of NK troops looking for them in the city. Inflicting casualties isn't that great a test...Although Chi Nguyen did lead the force that saved the Elvandair Princess, and her hand-but that was a Special Operation...)

The thing is, Nuevo Kowloon hasn't had that many foreign conflicts, because they're reluctant-they don't like to get militarily involved, and they're paranoid-they never commit their whole force of "Regulars" to anything that's far from home.

Hence, the Isolationist "riots" that preceded Aust's attack.

Now... well, now they've gone and panicked, letting everyone know what the inoffensive little asian bastards really have...]
Aust
27-03-2004, 10:26
OCC: Good info.

Aust losses.
Wing 1=16 planes
Wing 2 = 34 planes
Wing 3 = 19 planes
Wing 4 = 19 planes
Wing 5 = 1 (Havn't arrived yet electromagnetic intoferance.
Wing 6= 0 (" ")

Bombers 34 planes.

Transport 3 planes.

Fire rasers = 36 planes.

The Fortress ships are now 1 hour away.
1 Fortress ship and 2 carriers plaus 3 cruisers have been sunk and 2 more cruisers haverly damaged.

5 squadrons of bombers detached from 6 wing and began an offencive on the ships that sent up flack. The rest went on toward there targets. 5 squadrons of 7 wing have been ordered to attack An-Loc Space Center.
Independent Hitmen
27-03-2004, 13:52
At the Air Strip Colonel O'Neill went to get his TACSAT satilite radio. Once he was securely connected to JSOC in Fort Hammond he began talking about what was needed. In the back ground the C-130 now empty began to prepare for takeoff.

"Sir, we need weapons above all else. G-3's preferably because they are easy to use, but anything that we can train them on. Also they need armour to help defend this position and some Stingers couldnt hurt."

"Roge-o Colonel, ill get onto the President right away. We have several C-17s loading up with small arms and ammunition and a few LAW's. We are having some problems buying the small arms needed because obviously they cant come from our armouries. There is another team inbound ETA 2 hours over."

"Roger that Sir. Ill get back to you when they come in Out."
Aust
27-03-2004, 21:56
At the Air Strip Colonel O'Neill went to get his TACSAT satilite radio. Once he was securely connected to JSOC in Fort Hammond he began talking about what was needed. In the back ground the C-130 now empty began to prepare for takeoff.

"Sir, we need weapons above all else. G-3's preferably because they are easy to use, but anything that we can train them on. Also they need armour to help defend this position and some Stingers couldnt hurt."

"Roge-o Colonel, ill get onto the President right away. We have several C-17s loading up with small arms and ammunition and a few LAW's. We are having some problems buying the small arms needed because obviously they cant come from our armouries. There is another team inbound ETA 2 hours over."

"Roger that Sir. Ill get back to you when they come in Out."
Duke Robert went up to the Leader of the IH squads. "Mind if I show you around our base. It may give you an idea of what we need?"
Phyrric
28-03-2004, 01:09
Phyrric your troops would take time to arrive. About 3 hours after my planes/ ships arrive the troop[s would be about 1 NS day to mobalise and 1 NS day to get their.

I am aware of this mobilization problem, that is why I posted the time table. Fighters can get there relatively fast, and unless you have all of NK captured, it would be hard to prevent such a force from arriving as I do not have to plan a beachhead on NK.
Aust
28-03-2004, 10:05
Phyrric your troops would take time to arrive. About 3 hours after my planes/ ships arrive the troop[s would be about 1 NS day to mobalise and 1 NS day to get their.

I am aware of this mobilization problem, that is why I posted the time table. Fighters can get there relatively fast, and unless you have all of NK captured, it would be hard to prevent such a force from arriving as I do not have to plan a beachhead on NK.
Fighters can get their reltivly fast. How far away are you?
28-03-2004, 10:10
The Nation of Tekroget is a very businesslike nation with hardly any military let alone an offensive force but our nation is rich and prosperous so we would like to donate 20,000,000,00V$ to the coalition fighting the Credonians
28-03-2004, 10:11
At the Air Strip Colonel O'Neill went to get his TACSAT satilite radio. Once he was securely connected to JSOC in Fort Hammond he began talking about what was needed. In the back ground the C-130 now empty began to prepare for takeoff.

"Sir, we need weapons above all else. G-3's preferably because they are easy to use, but anything that we can train them on. Also they need armour to help defend this position and some Stingers couldnt hurt."

"Roge-o Colonel, ill get onto the President right away. We have several C-17s loading up with small arms and ammunition and a few LAW's. We are having some problems buying the small arms needed because obviously they cant come from our armouries. There is another team inbound ETA 2 hours over."

"Roger that Sir. Ill get back to you when they come in Out."
lol that reminds me so much of Stargate SG-1. O'neil and Hammond?
Aust
28-03-2004, 10:35
At the Air Strip Colonel O'Neill went to get his TACSAT satilite radio. Once he was securely connected to JSOC in Fort Hammond he began talking about what was needed. In the back ground the C-130 now empty began to prepare for takeoff.

"Sir, we need weapons above all else. G-3's preferably because they are easy to use, but anything that we can train them on. Also they need armour to help defend this position and some Stingers couldnt hurt."

"Roge-o Colonel, ill get onto the President right away. We have several C-17s loading up with small arms and ammunition and a few LAW's. We are having some problems buying the small arms needed because obviously they cant come from our armouries. There is another team inbound ETA 2 hours over."

"Roger that Sir. Ill get back to you when they come in Out."
lol that reminds me so much of Stargate SG-1. O'neil and Hammond?
OOC: Rember to put OOC: in front of those comments.
Phyrric
28-03-2004, 10:53
Phyrric your troops would take time to arrive. About 3 hours after my planes/ ships arrive the troop[s would be about 1 NS day to mobalise and 1 NS day to get their.

I am aware of this mobilization problem, that is why I posted the time table. Fighters can get there relatively fast, and unless you have all of NK captured, it would be hard to prevent such a force from arriving as I do not have to plan a beachhead on NK.
Fighters can get their reltivly fast. How far away are you?

NK is in the pacific as claimed, and I am west of the Haven Region which is claimed to be in the pacific as well...I would guess a thousand or more miles??? but NS is big too, who knows, same ocean anyways.
Aust
28-03-2004, 10:59
3 hours, 4?
The first bombing raids on the beaches and the 2nd on the citys are being carryed out. Aust navy to land in 45 mins.
Independent Hitmen
28-03-2004, 12:38
OOC: hehe yeah i was watchin some espisode on sky before i came on an posted that!

IC: "Of course Sir please do." he motioned for 5 of the men to stay in position and start securing the immeadiate area while he and the other 6 walked off with the Duke.

In the Distance the first C-130 could be seen approaching the strip, loaded with light machine guns and ammunition.
Nuevo Kowloon
28-03-2004, 14:31
3 hours, 4?
The first bombing raids on the beaches and the 2nd on the citys are being carryed out. Aust navy to land in 45 mins.

Third Line defenses come into play here. Nuevo Kowloon's coastal artillery includes several types and varieties of SAM missile systems-including the Non-Nuclear version of Nike Hercules (Six sites were located here during the American period), recovered/captured/rebuilt SAM-2 batteries (taken from the communists in the 1960's), purchased Mistral, "Hound", and Hawk Batteries, (Numerous), and finally Redeye, Stinger, and SA-7/14 Grail teams.
Additionally, there are also 88mm flak guns (Left behind by the French in the 1940's), 90mm "Long Tom" pieces (American Lend-Lease, lovingly maintained and fed better ammo than the previous owners could have imagined), and 3 batteries of 75mm "Mixmaster" automatic cannons (developed by the U.S. in the 1950's).
Basically, a lot of ordnance going "Up", running across eras-it's like being shot at by eight or nine generations of gear (well, you are...)
The real Threat, though, is the locally-built stuff based on SeaSparrow on a land-mount.
What's being churned into the sky is everything from ADA missiles designed to take out formations of aircraft, to cannon shells designed to counter High-Altitude bombers, to HiMad and ShoRad weapons built to chew up the best the cold-war had to offer-guided by datalinks that enable triangulation of signal and return between multiple recievers (including those radars put on the oil rigs in the Tonkin Gulf in exchange for cheaper leases.)
What does triangulation do?
Well... if you're not getting a return at a given point from one radar, you can assume it's a single craft. If the return is "Sparrow sized" (say, a B-2), then it should look "Sparrow-sized" from a set ten miles west.
If it Doesn't (or, say, there's a big, blank space when the two radar returns are overlapped), and the big empty space is moving around 350+ MPH, it's a good bet there's something "Stealthy" there.
So, that's where you shoot.
The NK's didn't spend nearly as much on the actual missiles, as they did on the detection systems-creating a network of information interchange that allows guns sited away from Radar to use it for targeting.
This system links up to Naval ships and mountainside positions as well-makes for an "Interesting" entrance situation, now that the ionization howl from "The Hammer" has died down.
The last missile type, is locally developed from the NK-1 and NK-2 HARM system. it's a little cleverer than its brothers, but uses the same engines and the same base principle.
It's cleverer, in that it "Follows directions" better, and can manuever with more agility.
NK-3 Batteries are vehicle-mounts, using a "Shoot and scoot" operational concept. At this time, They're moving down out of the highlands, making wild-weasel attacks difficult.
There are nearly one hundered of these, each carrying twelve missiles "Ready" and 32 in reserve. (For stats, think "THAAD" on a track. Three firing tracks(four missiles each), with reloads on heavy transports following behind.) The main reason the first wave made it in and out without facing these, is that the vehicles had to be moved from the former Chinese border (Rail shipment), and the crews had to take the extra time to get them ready for action.
(Crews also had to be recalled from their "Off Duty" activities-like running their farms/working their jobs.)
Luckily for the Austian forces, there are only a few dozen in the southern areas they're approaching

An-Loc Space Centre...

"Hostiles inbound." WO Dao Cu'ong said quietly.
"I understand, Fire self-defense missile arrays, and close the center up." her boss, Launch Director Li Hihn (Lt. Colonel, Reserve) ordered.
The Heavy doors began to close as the first salvo of NK-3 missiles, guided by the big tracking radar of the space centre, were released.
"Contacts good" the Warrant announced, "we're hurting them, at least."
Hihn nodded, "Excellent... how long before the next wave?" He asked.
She watched the screens, and announced, "Next wave thirty minutes. The survivors of this wave have hit the orbital communications array, they've also hit the surface hangars and the launch-vehicle assembly area."
He nodded, "Expected that-we lose anyone?" he asked.
She shrugged, "Seizmic says the gate-guards-wait!" The main screen flickered.
"What happened?" the Launch Director asked.
Dao sighed, and started flipping switches, "Main dish is out-I'm re-routing."
The reinforced cavern boomed.
"Seizmic's saying that was a Thousand-pound 'Bunker Buster', I think they want us to know they're pissed." Dao announced.
He nodded, "fine, tell the Air-Defense people they can fire whenever they're ready to..." the cavern boomed again, and the door alarms went off-the main entrance was blocked.
"It's going to be a long month." Dao commented-referring to the level of damage that had to be inflicted to set off the door alarms without setting off Radiation Hazard alarms.

Ia Drang Underground City...
The noise above was getting quite... raucous for the inhabitants of Nuevo Kowloon's second-largest city.
Buried more than a mile below the surface, Ia Drang is a dark place-the inhabitants here prefer it.
Princess Beatrude had been here nine hours, and had already discovered more about the country than she'd learned in almost twenty years in the Capital-like the fact that the reason government offices in Nha Tranh are open 24 hours, and the fact that Amanda Ngo never met with her in broad daylight (in fact, she never seemed to be available until shortly after sunset) may have had something to do with 20% of the nation being allergic to light-and that the best place to meet that 20% was here, in Ia Drang.
To walk the "Streets" (really corridors-the whole city was like a multilayered bomb-shelter crossed with an Arcology), she had to wear the Ilham-made "Night Vision Devices" (unless she wanted to trip over something, bump into something, or just have a very hard time of it overall) at least, outside her rooms.
"The United States of Independent Hitmen have offered to give you refuge, Ma'am." Her escort, Colonel Harold Wu (one of these light-allegics), said. She could barely read his expression with his eyes covered in welding-grade light filters.
"I think I want to accept." she said.
He nodded, "I think that would be wise-when the Austians land, it's going to be pretty ugly, and if you're connected with what's going to happen to them, that'll be even uglier for your cause." he said flatly.

She looked surprised, "What's going to happen to them?" she asked.

He shrugged, "Blood Pass, Corcyra, both times, We were the ones that were outnumbered by technologically superior enemies, both times, we were the ones fighting in a foreign land... this time, we're at home, we aren't short of supplies, and even if they somehow make it past the shallows, they're going to be fighting our war, on our land. My great-grandfather was one of the dying Ten Thousand that threw the ChiComs back in '63, after the bio-bombs and the Atom Bombs were dropped on us. Their supplies have to travel thousands of miles to reach them here, and we have more than enough who can and will fight."

"How will I get there from here?" she asked.
He looked down at his watch, an unlighted, plain, almost old-fashioned type.
"In another four hours, you will emerge on the Cambodia side of the mountains, they'll meet us there, and spirit you away with a huge guard, while we make a big noise about your being 'missing' after the destruction of the surface-areas of Nha Tranh, where your Embassy is. The Tension will buy your cause and supporters sympathy until you elect to reveal that you escaped-on your own-in the confusion of the initial attack." He lowered his wrist, "The Chancellor herself said that you should do this-it will embolden your supporters at home if you appear to have magically escaped harm during the height of a directed attack on the nation sheltering you."
He gestured at the table, "You should put on the NVG's now-they're fully charged, and will last out the trip."
Nuevo Kowloon
29-03-2004, 06:09
Bin Loc village...

"...approaching from the south. Casualties are---high, estimates --- five-hun--enty-three million... Air Def----enters are recall-------servists..." Hoa Pham turned the radio off, and looked outside, at the streams of fire rising in the distance.
"What's going on, Father?" his daughter asked from inside the house.
"We are being invaded." he said. and turned. "Wake your brothers and sisters, and your mother. It won't be long now..." as he said it, he heard the footsteps outside.
"John, I expected you to come a bit later." Hoa said, and turned to the open door.
John Franklin was standing outside, cradling his rifle.
"Sorry to be early, Hoa, but the District Leadership has activated all the Militias between level four and level five." Franklin said.
Hoa nodded, "It's true, then... very well. That includes my oldest, doesn't it?" he asked.
Franklin nodded, "High School Seniors are part of it-your wife is exempt from the call up because of the younger children."
Hoa nodded again, and opened the hall closet. He reached in, and extracted three rifles.
His two oldest sons came out of their rooms, Thomas looked sleepy, his brother Dinh adjusted the dark glasses on his face.
"Boys, do you have-?" Dinh lifted his pack, "Already done, father, both of us."
Hoa nodded, and handed his sons their rifles. "Fine, keep your heads down, and stick close." They joined the others gathering at the Village armoury.
Meanwhile, those too young (or too old) began filtering into bolt-holes prepared over decades by generations of families, of villages, under the direct protection of those exempted from the call-up-mothers with young children, mostly, or the sole surviving military-aged children of elderly or disabled parents.


The scene repeats at dozens of small villages throughout the nation, and in the neighbourhoods of the major cities.

This was the nightmare, and now, the preparations of generations would be tested.
Aust
29-03-2004, 16:18
Pilot officer, Frank Higgs, Sat in the cockpit of his F-15 avoiding the fire from hundreds of batterys below. A flood of com was coming into his ears, but their seemed no enermy fighters. he swooped and fired a rocket at a perticually persistant group of NK gunners. That also seemed incredably accurate and lucky. They ran in fear as the missile distroyed the gun. His job was to look after the trasports and thats what he was doing. The slow moving aircraft where 5 minuates away and his squadron along with a squadron of Strike Eagles where trying to distroy this small airports defences. And they where succseding. The transport aircraft arrived, landing on the enermy runway. A group of NK soildiers ran towards them firing, but the plains swivil mounted machine guns fired covering the group in dust as bullets missed, a missile came out of the cloud but it missed the planes. The plane taxied off the runway, guns firing and another one came in, the the first ASS began to disembark firing their guns and rockets, supported by a jeep. He saw one Aust officer fire in short controled bursts only to be hit in the knee and fall. He was dragged back by two men.
As more Aust planes arrived it bacame clear that the ASS where winning this fight and that they where overwhelming the enermy by sheer wait of numbers, the NK troops died hard however and had killed a hell of a lot of ASS.
Frank came in to land.
Aust casultys=25 men 3 planes
Other casultys.=3 ships 7,893 men on board, 45 planes
(All aust planes drop bunker busters or cluster bombs)
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Duke Robert led the IH leader into the tunnel that linked the airport to the fortrass. He led the man through the 10 meter high and 20 meter high tunnel that had many rooms leading off into the command room that was a very basic setup.....
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"ah, good, I just hope that we can hold out this long, i mean the ASS arn't babies you know. They are the elite. They train for 5 years and the Death Head legion train for 7 years on top of the 10 years they have spent as an Aust Trooper, they are armed with the very best money can by and only men with an IQ of over 160 can join and who can complet a 12 mile run in under an hour and a half get to join. They are the best, the elite and I wouldn't want to be facing them."
Nuevo Kowloon
30-03-2004, 00:28
Pilot officer, Frank Higgs, Sat in the cockpit of his F-15 avoiding the fire from hundreds of batterys below. A flood of com was coming into his ears, but their seemed no enermy fighters. he swooped and fired a rocket at a perticually persistant group of NK gunners. That also seemed incredably accurate and lucky. They ran in fear as the missile distroyed the gun. His job was to look after the trasports and thats what he was doing. The slow moving aircraft where 5 minuates away and his squadron along with a squadron of Strike Eagles where trying to distroy this small airports defences. And they where succseding. The transport aircraft arrived, landing on the enermy runway. A group of NK soildiers ran towards them firing, but the plains swivil mounted machine guns fired covering the group in dust as bullets missed, a missile came out of the cloud but it missed the planes. The plane taxied off the runway, guns firing and another one came in, the the first ASS began to disembark firing their guns and rockets, supported by a jeep. He saw one Aust officer fire in short controled bursts only to be hit in the knee and fall. He was dragged back by two men.
As more Aust planes arrived it bacame clear that the ASS where winning this fight and that they where overwhelming the enermy by sheer wait of numbers, the NK troops died hard however and had killed a hell of a lot of ASS.
Frank came in to land.
Aust casultys=25 men 3 planes
Other casultys.=3 ships 7,893 men on board, 45 planes
(All aust planes drop bunker busters or cluster bombs)
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NK Casualties-
2 Batteries of SAM-2, 53 personnel
4 Hawk Batteries(22 Personnel lost, there are survivors)
11 FLAK guns (88 and 90mm)(33 Personnel)
19 Airport Staff and 3 Combat engineers (at the 'port the Austians landed at...)

The ASS troops were spreading out from their transports as Hoa Pham watched from the treeline overlooking the airport.
"Just like the French." he commented. His friend and Militia commander, David, glanced over. "What do you mean?" he asked.
Hoa grunted, "They picked Dien Bien Phu for their first grounding. Did they set the charges before those planes landed?"
Farmer nodded.
"Then, I suggest we close the loop." Hoa said calmly.
The Militia Commander nodded, and signalled the other district Militia scouts to cover down.

The F-15 on the airstrip was rolling to a stop as the tarmac erupted in a line of explosions running sequentially from the landing-lights to the fuel-storage areas.
Most of the explosives in the runways were put there when the concrete was laid-down and the airstrip refurbished ten years ago.
The rest were added when it was becoming clear that the bulk of the Air defenses of the country were incapable against the modern, advanced, Austian forces.
The Airfield erupted in fireballs, then turned into a solid sheet of fire, as the above-ground storage tanks first ruptured outward-spraying number four diesel in a fine mist mixed with AvGas, then, the mist detonated by secondary explosion.

The Austian transports, and their troops, had no way to know that the Airfields were rigged-until now.

"Damn, my own dad spent five years working on those runways..." Militia Leutenant David Farmer said.
Hoa shrugged, "So, we will simply rebuild it-I wonder how they're going to breathe without any oxygen after that Fuel-Air Explosion?" he asked it idly, like commenting on the weather.
Farmer looked at his Second. "You're pretty casual about that-there were nineteen people in there..."
Hoa shrugged, "Yeah, and a lot of Austian Troopers who were probably going to torture and kill them anyway. Foreigners are all that way, you know- no value on life."
Below, the underground storage tanks detonated, sending fresh plumes of fire and debris skyward.
Nuevo Kowloon
30-03-2004, 08:21
The mystery of the "Missing" NK planes was suddenly not a mystery at all, as the surface-to-air fire suddenly... Stopped-as of someone on the ground had hit a "Pause" button.
A wing of fighters (that's 144) erupted from Highway 1, Highway 3, and several other "Non Airport" locations in the highlands.
What had looked for all the world like the beginnings of a rout, had turned into a well-planned ambush, as the airfields being "Seized" by Austian Troops turned out to be the equivalent of capturing a live grenade.
The F-15's and F-15E's suddenly had Tracking Via Missile warnings-lock warnings, as the NK Fighters (now fighting at knife-fight range) "Foxed" heat-seeking and Radar-Guided missiles-AAMRAMS.
The next wave of fighters appeared from other areas-areas that sattelite reconaissance showed as overgrown jungle. One wing, becomes two wings.
These began foxing NK-1's, NK-2's, and Sidewinders.
After the launches, the ADA starts up again. It's near midnight now, and the NK fighters are demonstrating what an integrated air-to-ground-to-air technique can do.

Losses:
115 Infantry casualties
600,000 total civilian casualties (due to bombing)
119 Airport casualties (nationwide)
the previously mentioned ADA crews are joined in their journey by 316 more ADA personnel.
Independent Hitmen
30-03-2004, 12:54
Independent Hitmen
30-03-2004, 12:56
Major Tomkinson was left in charge at the airstrip as the first C-130 landed. It taxied under instructions to the ramp and stopped, the rear cargo bay doors lowering before the engines had started revving down.

The first man out was an Air Force Corporal who handed a list of the planes contents to the Major.

50 Crates G3A3 Rifles
200 Crates 7.62mm Ammunition
4 66mm Mortars
60 66mm Mortar Rounds
45 66mm LAW's

The Major looked down the list and motioned for the men to begin unloading the crates. He looked around and saw a man that looked like he was in charge.

"Where do you want these crates? Ive got orders to fill this transport with and refugees that are being evac'd back home. Next 4 transports are also earmarked for evac. They are carrying light arms and ammunition. After that we have 5 M551 Sheridans on board, war booty from earlier conflicts you see untraceable in case they are found!"
GameFAQ
30-03-2004, 13:36
I withdraw all of my support from this attack on Credonia.
Aust
30-03-2004, 16:18
The Aust planes where suprised but not overwhelmed, the piolets where too experianced for that. They quickly broke formation and went one on one with the NK fighters, firing their missiles and guns. Every one of the 745 surving fighters prepared to engage.
Aust Fighter losses: 89 fighters.

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Captain Cortez watched as the F-15 piolet lept from his planes as charges went off, he retrated into cover a few hundred meters away and watched the fireball, 1 transport with a full consighment of ASS had been distroyed and 30 others had been killed, but most had pulled up their resporators and withdrawn. Their where still around 40 of them alive and more where landing from paradrop. Pity about this airfeild, but at least they had only landed on one and that was good, no more casultys. He spotted some men in the trees to the north. "Fit tranqs guys let make sure those lot tell us what the hell went on back there. Where's the nearest town to this hell hole?"
"*************(Isernt name and coardernets) sir."
"Good lets take out these guys and advance."
The ASS advanced slowly satying camaflarged. Then suddenly they opened fire.
Nuevo Kowloon
30-03-2004, 20:53
The Aust planes where suprised but not overwhelmed, the piolets where too experianced for that. They quickly broke formation and went one on one with the NK fighters, firing their missiles and guns. Every one of the 745 surving fighters prepared to engage.
Aust Fighter losses: 89 fighters.

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Captain Cortez watched as the F-15 piolet lept from his planes as charges went off, he retrated into cover a few hundred meters away and watched the fireball, 1 transport with a full consighment of ASS had been distroyed and 30 others had been killed, but most had pulled up their resporators and withdrawn. Their where still around 40 of them alive and more where landing from paradrop. Pity about this airfeild, but at least they had only landed on one and that was good, no more casultys. He spotted some men in the trees to the north. "Fit tranqs guys let make sure those lot tell us what the hell went on back there. Where's the nearest town to this hell hole?"
"*************(Isernt name and coardernets) sir."
"Good lets take out these guys and advance."
The ASS advanced slowly satying camaflarged. Then suddenly they opened fire.

The Muzzle-flashes exploded below. Dinh was a Junior in the Village School, but the Army Counselor was already helping him plan for graduation.
He sat as still as the trees, as his brother Thomas (voted most likely to need retraining by the senior Class) collapsed.
The Austians were pretty-well camouflaged for night operations, Dinh could make out their shapes as they moved about. The flashes from their muzzles lighting the area like searchlights.
He chose one-near the rear of the grouping, and aimed.
"Boom!" He switched targets, focusing on one carrying some kind of support-weapon. "Boom".
His shots were chosen carefully, and he jacked one round at a time through his rifle-a gift from the Army Counselor, it wasn't the standard Garand, it was an M-1917 fitted with a scope-and the scope was in turn fitted with a light-blocking filter, to ease his sensitive eyes.
He rotated the bolt, and moved- sliding behind a rubber-tree, as the Enemy began to rush his last position.
They stood out, to him, like men in the street wearing dull clothes might to someone who lives in daylight. He spotted one that seemed to be giving orders. Centre the crosshairs, lead... right below the chin...The sensation of a glass-rod breaking-and-"Boom".
He slipped into the undergrowth. Going back for Tommy would be pointless now, the foolish older brother, if he was still alive, would either be finished by the invaders, or taken prisoner.
Though things will be harder when the sun rises... he thought ruefully.
Behind him, a line of Claymores and bouncing betties erupted-showing that the enemy had reached the crest of the hill, and had managed to not see the simple trigger until it was too late.
Hmmm... I don't remember leaving those there...

not far from the drop zone

Lt. Farmer's Platoon spotted the parachutes, and radioed them in, then, they moved southward, away from the area the bulk of the ASS troops were coming down.
"That's the Plantation, isn't it?" Hoa Pham asked. The Lt. nodded, "Yeah... it is. fancy that. Do you suppose they know they're landing in a minefield?"
Hoa shrugged, "Maybe. if it were me, I'd have one of those fighters go back and get a cannister of fire-suppressing foam, then use the blown airfield for an LZ."
The two old men looked at each other. "Do you really think they'd consider bringing ordnance to put fires out?" Farmer asked, as they marched.
"No. We would, but somehow, I don't think they're thinking that way." Hoa answered.
They reached a stand of old hardwood, and spread out.
"How long before they head for the Village?" Hoa asked, passing time.
"Not long, I give 'em thirty minutes." the Militia Leutenant replied.
The south edge of the Plantation erupted.
"Well, they found some of the mines the kids put in..." Another series of detonation-flashes lit the night.
"And the ones your kids put in. At this rate, we're going to have to get more. They're going to use them all up..." Farmer whispered wryly.
Hoa shrugged, and slid up behind a large tree root.
"don't count the payments till the Harvest is in- those boys're gonna be hot when they realize how much area's been mined around here-foreigners seem to think you have to stand up toe-to-toe and fight 'Honourably' like a damn fool..."
Another series of detonations erupted.
"They've got Night vision devices...they should be more careful where they step." Farmer whispered.
Hoa shook his head, "with all due respect, sir, there are at least ten of them coming this way. I suggest you get down, and pick a target."
Nuevo Kowloon
30-03-2004, 23:23
Twenty miles North West of Bin Loc Village, 30 meters below the former Michelin Rubber plantation...

"...well, that's it. the last of it." Janice Quo said, checking off the last item of her list.
"I wanna go Hoome..." her daughter said. She turned around, "I know, but we can't-not right now. It is too dangerous... why don't you go help Dr. Huon with the pregnant ladies?" she asked. the girl nodded, and dashed off.

"How long do you figure it will be before we know?" Mrs. Pham asked. Janice shook her head, "I don't know-it should take them a while to realize we didn't just head down the highway to Ia Drang. Hopefully, they won't. I don't know about you, but I finished my Tour of Service, and I don't want to do that ever again." Mrs. Pham nodded, "I understand that... your kids are both too young, and your husband's dead- I have two sons out there and a Husband-I'm worried."
Janice sighed, "Mary... look, they'll make it or they won't, we can't change that. Right now, we have to operate as if they aren't coming back, because there is a chance that they aren't. I won't lie to you-I saw it in Corcyra-a lot of good people are going to die in the next few days, and maybe more over the next few years. We have to out survive the invaders-and rebuild what we can when it's over."
She glanced down the dorm, at the infants in their protected room. "And we absolutely must not let them capture the children. I saw- I saw things there, things people do to each other..." her voice trailed off, and she shuddered.
Mary Pham reached out, and took her hand. "hold on, Janice-please."
Janice's expression cleared up. "Sorry about that... I guess you know why they let me go without a fight now." she said, and tried to smile.
Mary nodded, "Hoa has the same problems, will you be able to hold up?"
Janice nodded, "I think so."
Nuevo Kowloon
31-03-2004, 07:05
The Aust planes where suprised but not overwhelmed, the piolets where too experianced for that. They quickly broke formation and went one on one with the NK fighters, firing their missiles and guns. Every one of the 745 surving fighters prepared to engage.
Aust Fighter losses: 89 fighters.




NK Losses in the current engagement:
Air Corps
11 F-8H Crusaders
9 F-102U (Upgraded)Delta Darts
13 F-104C Interceptors (yeah, real museum pieces)
4 F-86 from the Air-Corps training centre
12 F-100NK Supersabres(Upgrade model)
1 767 Tanker
1 737 "Wedgetail" AWACS aircraft

Navy
NKVF 11- 7 F-100NK Supersabres (out of 18)
NKVF 21- 2 F-8Y SuperCrusaders (out of 24)
NKVF 02 -5 F-8Y SuperCrusaders (out of 24)
NKVF 01 -3 F-8Y Supercrusaders (out of 8)
NKVF 01 -10 F-100 NK SuperSabres (out of 16)

Marine Corps
MVA 2- 3 A-10B strike aircraft (out of 24)
MVH 6- 12 AH-1NK Attack Helicopters (NoTar modification)
MVF 3 - 2 (out of 12) F-4J Phantom II
MCH 12- 6 (out of 12) UH1G(NK) Notar Huey Gunships.

Coast Guard:
11 UH-1Y (shot down during Search and Rescue operations near one of the sinking Austian ships.)
02 PBY-3's (shot down during SAR activities.)
NKS Charity- Hospital vessel, 539 aboard, survivors unknown.
3 PBY "Firebomber" firefighting aircraft-shot down over Nha Tranh by Austian fighters.


Civilian Casualties*
Holding at 651,234 in Nha Tranh proper,
21, 211 surface-dwelling citizens in Ia Drang
10,121 in surrounding areas.

*These numbers are expected to increase as areas report in and are confirmed. as of right now, and as some injured expire. these are only confirmed deaths.
Independent Hitmen
31-03-2004, 11:16
The Carrier USIHS Cassandra has arrived off the coast of Nuevo Kowloon and is preparing to begin the evacuation of foreign nationals. The carrier has a complement of CH-46 and SH-60 Helicopters as well as a Marine Recon and Seal Team Units to carry the operation out with.

OOC: Post more later about this.
Aust
31-03-2004, 16:28
"Here's one sir." Sargnet Halmish pulled out a large enermy from the bushes, "we saw another younger one going up North toward the village, we've got a team after him. He's young and leaves traces, should have him with us in about 5 mins. He's going in a straight line so we've got a team heading to cut him off. We spotted some enermys moving to the south, near that minefeild,"
"Minefeild?"
"Yeah, someone thought it was a good idea to land in a mine feild, they didn't use their detectors, after we lost 4 men they switched 'em on, we landed safly now."
"And this group?"
"There standing between us and the village. They recon that we will just fall into theirr trap. I recon we should skirt round the west of them, the ways clear that way we cheaked and approch from the back, send a decoy force to the front, or send a pilet to throw daown a naparm grenade or two, smoke 'em out and then kill 'em on the flat."
"Get them to do that"
"Aye." Their was movement around the captain, the prisinor was waking up. The translator ran up to him and satarted the questioning. It appeared he was dumb, stupid and allergic to tranqs. Not a good mix. But after and hour or two, after 3 partys of 10 men had been sent off to surround the enermy 'ambush and the gunfire from that are had broken out along with whisps of smoke from the napalm, after that boy had been caught, he spoke and he told a lot...
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Bea climbed into the IH plane and cast her eyes back to the gunfire from the city...
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"Sir?" The emporer sat in his throne,
"What. How goes the invasion"
"Well sir. we have had losses but over 300 ASS are in the country, despit the distruction of an enermy airbase and they have a foothold, we have one prisinor. Our fighters have taken losses but not to bad our fortress ships are in trouble but they have retreated to take over as support ships. Our planes have 3 hours left in the air, some are refueling. We have reports of heavy NK losses. I have also ent a troop of 12 transports to paradrop on a site where we think their may be eather enermy soildiers or civillians to help our ASS in the north, it's Twenty miles North West of Bin Loc Village, the enermy troops appear to be below the Michelin Rubber plantation."
"Okay. How many missiles do we have?"
"Nukes or non-nukes?"
"Non-nukes."
"over 200,000 sir and we have 2,000 chemical and 9,000 nuclear. 40,000 in reserve."
"good I want 50,000 of them at the main popualation centers, the rest at smaller towns or villages, I don't want a settlement to go without a hit. Send the chemical weapons at the main citys all of them. Just keep the reserves. Don't fire the nukes. Fire as soon as possable. Don't fire near where our troops are. Pull back our planes except for the transports and their escorts."
"Yes sir."

The missiles fired.

Aust losses(Scince last post= 67 palnes losses.
ASS=14
Independent Hitmen
31-03-2004, 18:27
The SH-60 touched down on the grey carrier deck. Before the rotors had stopped turning Bea was moving with her Delta Force Escort to a C-2 carrierbourne cargo plane.

As soon as they were aboad the prop driven aircraft taxied to the catapult and launched into the air, quickly followed by 2 F-22S Sea Raptors. The plane immeadiately changed course and headed away from NK towards the USIHS John C McQuinly 500 miles away. From there she would move to another C-2 and fly to Gillen Air Force Base in Redge and take a C-5 to J City to meet the President.
Independent Hitmen
31-03-2004, 18:32
In Aust the first C-5 carrying the M551 Sheridans arrived. The front of the plane lifted up as the first of three tanks rolled out onto the strip.

"Sir we are going to need a place to stash these whilst your men are trained on their use. We have some M113s and BMP's aqquired coming in soon as well." Major Tomkinson briefed the Commander on the Scene.
Nuevo Kowloon
01-04-2004, 00:58
280,000,000 dead.
Nothing less than 100 meters below ground level is still alive, and most of the country is covered in a pall of Poison.
Prevailing winds will, of course, carry it out. Eventually.
Maybe.
Someday.

50,000 warheads landing in an area roughly half the size of Montana will do that kind of destruction.

The fires in what was left of the jungles will burn for weeks without anyone to put them out.

Every warm-blooded chordate mammal from the northern border down to the southern tip is dead-as are most of the reptiles-poisoned by the noxious chemical gasses from 2000 chemical weapons disbursed across the country.

Most of the deaths were caused by failures in shelter seals, caused by multiple hits.
The survivors are trapped now, buried alive by tunnel collapse.

NKS Hue Battlegroup, 250 miles off Antarctica...

Nothing left. No home, no family.
Nothing.
Commodore Trung opened the safe, and took out the red, plastic box.
He snapped it open, and walked into CIC.
The crew was silent, stunned.
Some were crying.
"Missile tracks confirmed, sir." the Senior Fire-Controlman said.
He nodded. "They hit, didn't they?"
He didn't need an answer, their faces were enough.
"Well, it looks like we're on our own orders now." he said.
It fell flat.
"Bring the group about, load everything we have. I want CAG in my office in half an hour with a strike plan... in the meantime, Quhon, get me access to the Thor system-they only dropped a fifth of it. I want the crowbars armed and retasked-here are the coordinates, and the codes."
"Targets, sir?" Da'o Quhon asked.
"Yeah... I want every faultline and hot-spring within a thousand miles of their capital with the Hammers, also the Capitol itself. I expect shortly after that, we're all going to die anyway."
She nodded. "Right away sir." he handed her the card from the Safe, "Half an hour, Sir." she said, and went to work hacking the system.


It took Fifteen minutes to establish the uplink, and twenty minutes to activate the remaining "Hammer" Sattelites.
It was less than a day after the initial attack-not enough time for the system to be removed.

Ten years being deployed. Ten years at one per day.
3,650 days in a year.
200 had been used the day before.

3,450 objects started moving in the early-morning sky.

A Thor system isn't particularly good at hitting Moving targets.
Faultlines, hot springs, bridges, roads, C3 centers-these don't generally move.

Cities Certainly don't move.

Unlike Nuclear missiles, orbiting "Crowbars" don't have thin skins, fuel tanks, or explosive components.

A three meter bar ten meters long has a sectional density that's absolutely amazing-not much energy release (relative) compared to the "Hollow" charges dropped on the Austian fleet the day before.

3, 450 potential impacts of roughly one kiloton apiece, targeted at points that are already trying to fracture, thin spots in the earth's crust.
Near-misses will still produce significant ground-shock effects, and near-misses on faultlines will produce Earthquakes, trigger volcanoes, etc.
Aust is inside a ring of mountains. Now mountains are formed in relatively few ways: Volcanism from either Hotspots (like Mauna Kea), Volcanism from tectonic movement (Mt. St. Helens, or Vesuvius), Crustal uplift (The Himalayas) as one plate slides under the other (also called "Folding" this is how the Appalachian Mountains were formed), or material scraped up in front of/along a plunging fault (the Olympic Mountains in Washington State.)

Rings of mountains generally happen when two or more of these are at work, but rarely when Folding is involved.
since Aust is liveable on the surface, Folding is the least likely option-hot springs don't occur in folded mountains, and they'd be absolutely necessary to have liveable climatic conditions in the Antarctic.

This is called "Geological Reality."

At 1/2 Kiloton a piece, multiplied by 3,450, presuming non-airburst (bomb shelters are of limited value in an earthquake), also presuming less than 3000 possible faultlines, Someone is going to have a very, very, very, bad day-fewer targets, more will be targeted at them.

Relieved of the responsibility to report to superiors in Nha Tran, and of the responsibility to preserve the lives of families almost certainly dead...
Well...
Why not?
After all, losing your entire family, your country, everything, pretty much eliminates any need to care what happens next, doesn't it?
Nuevo Kowloon
01-04-2004, 08:19
[ooc]
Start the countdown, six NS months and Nuevo Kowloon becomes extinct.
That's the time it takes the one toxin that can survive re-entry (necessary for deployment by ICBM) to work its way into the water-table, and render whatever grows there poisonous enough to kill cockroaches, and that's about how long it will take for the last people left in NK to Die.
01-04-2004, 10:00
Huh.
_Taiwan
01-04-2004, 10:15
The devastation of Nuevo Kowloon is mentioned in an urgent telegram sent to President Chen, who urgently approves and fast-tracks a massive aid plan to the wounded nation. (OOC: NK being based in Indochina, is pretty close to Taiwan - Within a few hours flight)

A radio station is set up for survivors in NK, designed to increase morale, and assist in search and rescue operations. Food and water drops are scheduled, pending contact with survivors.
Aust
01-04-2004, 21:21
The emporer watch the display. Total distruction. "Good." He chuckled. "Did any of our troops get killed?"
"1 planes and 15 ASS where caught in the blast."
"Oh. Did you caoture those enermy troops, how many slaves did we take."
"Two troops, one about 13 another big stupid ox. Around 40 people in a bunker under the Michilin rubber plants."
"Can we rescue any survivors?"
"We could be the disise and the conditions make it almost impossable."
"Damm. Send me pics of the NK survivors that are women under 18, I shall choose one to bed. Have the rest auctioned out. Any of the NK fleet left?"
"Yes sir, 1 battlegroup."
"Send bombers to distroy them."
"Yes sir."
"Good. Before you leave send in a bibbi (woman) for me. Strip her and have her wait in my room."
"Yes sir. Sir. The last NK survivors have sent massive perices of iron at us. These may distroy bridges, and cause earthquakes."
"Send everyone to earthquake alert. They shouldn't be two big. Bridges can be rebuilt. I'll go to my bunker. Have the woman sent to my bunker."
"Yes sir."
Nuevo Kowloon
02-04-2004, 03:08
The emporer watch the display. Total distruction. "Good." He chuckled. "Did any of our troops get killed?"
"1 planes and 15 ASS where caught in the blast."
"Oh. Did you caoture those enermy troops, how many slaves did we take."
"Two troops, one about 13 another big stupid ox. Around 40 people in a bunker under the Michilin rubber plants."
"Can we rescue any survivors?"
"We could be the disise and the conditions make it almost impossable."
"Damm. Send me pics of the NK survivors that are women under 18, I shall choose one to bed. Have the rest auctioned out. Any of the NK fleet left?"
"Yes sir, 1 battlegroup."
"Send bombers to distroy them."
"Yes sir."
"Good. Before you leave send in a bibbi (woman) for me. Strip her and have her wait in my room."
"Yes sir. Sir. The last NK survivors have sent massive perices of iron at us. These may distroy bridges, and cause earthquakes."
"Send everyone to earthquake alert. They shouldn't be two big. Bridges can be rebuilt. I'll go to my bunker. Have the woman sent to my bunker."
"Yes sir."

Prisoner Holding Pen...

Amy Cu'ong sat quietly with the others-she really didn't have a choice, the powerful sedatives coming into her system through the IV's prevented more than dim conscious thoughts as the were transported.
The Austian Medics had at least identified one means to keep her, and the handfull like her, from causing more than minor trouble.
They took away her Dayglasses-effectively, she was "Blinded by the light." In the almost dank dimness of the pen, this might seem a joke-seem being the operative word. Her Irises were almost undeveloped at all, a genetic flaw, and one that the Austian "Keepers" were having quite a bit of fun with, though for some reason, they confined their abuse to insults, rather than the physical brutalitys she could hear, and do nothing about.

She didn't know that "Perfect Skin", a trim figure, and finely formed features made her one of the "Select" few being held aside for the Emporor's consideration as "Special" property.

Of course, the Austians seemed unaware that the fourteen year-old Had been considered for permanent residence in the National Prison system because she was an incorrigible underachiever with an unfortunate mean-streak and the kind of talents that easily turn to dreadfully antisocial behaviours. (nobody found her first victim, she is a very, very, careful girl.)

Behaviours, like "Spike" dealing (and using.). Her previous experiences with various "Leisure toxins" had granted the little wench more than a slight immunity to the "Suppressants" in her body, while her experiences (tender as they may be) with Law Enforcement had already taught her to avoid being noticed by being a "Good Prisoner" until the "Opportune Moment" could arise. Being "Meek as a lamb" tends to work when power relationships are thus defined.

Nevertheless, she could identify the individual body odours of her keepers, and their voices, walking sounds-gait and movement.
A Sociopath can seem completely, utterly, and totally sane. Even Docile, when that sociopath is intelligent.
Amy Cu'ong was about as sociopathic as a human being can be.
Or as Psychopathic as the most depraved Serial Killer.
Then agian, after all, she knew that was what she was.
she waited, for a time when she could indulge her "Other side".
Independent Hitmen
02-04-2004, 10:56
At the AirStrip Major Tomkinson was busy setting up a crude firing range for small arms whilst the tanks were hidden in deep underground bunkers. Another C-5 had landed and disgorged 3 BMP-2 IFV's and ammunition for the Sheridans main guns.

Colonel O'Neill was back from his tour of the facility and was on his TACSAT radio to SOCOM HQ again.

"Sir, we are starting to recieve the armour. Which flight is Major Samuels team on?"

"Major Samuels is in a C-130 due in at Zero One Hundred. Until then your on your own Colonel. The President is considering sending regular army units to you, we cant use the navy for this one so we may have to get permission to drive tanks through another country if we decide to intervene properly.I have to call the Joint Chiefs over supplies for this venture, was there anything else Colonel?"

"Negative Sir, we'll just sit here and wait then."

"Ok Jack. Radio check at Zero One Hundred when Samuels arrives."

"Roger that Sir, O'Neill Out"

He handed the TACSAT phone back to its operator Specialist Evans and headed back towards the firing range to get off a few shots with his M4.
_Taiwan
02-04-2004, 11:43
As the first S-720 transport plane flies over the remnants of Nuevo Kowloon, a broadcast is sent out on all radio frequencies, telling of the arrival of Taiwanese aid aircraft.
Nuevo Kowloon
02-04-2004, 11:47
Dinh Pham was drugged. They were keeping him that way for now. Drugged, bound with cable-ties, and finally a virtual rope of strapping tape.
He didn't remember being captured, but in that state, he wouldn't remember much for days-or at least, he shouldn't be able to.
He could remember the surprised look on his first face-to-face enemy-the goggled mouth open below a night-vision goggle when he put the bayonet in-right before the darkness took him.
He wasn't sure, but he thought he missed the artery when he shoved the blade into the man's groin.
In his drugged haze, he could smell blood and urine over and over again-the blood and the Urine that poured down his arm, soaking his shirt...
Independent Hitmen
02-04-2004, 11:52
The SH-60s took off again heading for Neuvo Kowloon, this time with teams of HASMAT equipped Search and Rescue men onboard. They were flying to look for survivors in the areas now clear of poison gas.

*Secret*
Meanwhile Bea had completed her journey to the USIH and is now in a secure location to await talks with the President and then a public announcement of her survival.
*End Secret*
Aust
02-04-2004, 16:51
Lutent Shivers (Timesplitters) took the photos and E-mailed them too the emporer. She suddenly noticed the boy who lay drugged and bound next to a crete in the corner, he was like many other prisinors, some of whom where being abused, but he was covred in bllod and sweat. The guard studdyed him, the boy had a good face, a cute one at least and would look good with a bit of cleaning up. "Who is that boy?" She asked a private. "Some kid sir. Visious basted tryed to bite me and kill me he did. With a bayonet. Missed of course just scraped me, but still."
"I'd like to keep him, as a slave of course."
"Sure sir. Your allowed one arn't you your an officer."
"Right. Wd've got unload these slaves and I want that one. Have him undrugged, striped, branded with my mark and taken to my room. I'll provide cloaths for him. Does he speak english?"
"Don't think so sir."
"Fit him with a translator. I don't speak what shit he does and I've got one already. In fact and strip him here for you." She did so, unbinding him and taking his cloaths, he was she decided a fine looking boy. She retied his ropes and drew them extra tight, drawing blood. She didn't care those cuts would heal.
"Keep him bound in my room, I don't want him wreaking things." She looked through the plane window, and saw it was snowing. the other guard saw it too.
"Won't he get cold sir? I mean he might die. The drugs are wearing off now."
"So? It'll do him good. If he dies I'll get another one."
"Yes sir.

OOC: I'll leave you to do the next bit of Dinh Phams tale.
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OOC: All ARP activites on the other thread
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The emporer looked at the pictures that had been sent by the Lutent. "i'll take that one." He said. He pointed at the picture of Amy Cu'ong.
"sir. She may virtually blind but she has been in jail for murder and..."
"So, give her drugs hat disable her legs and eyes. And her sence of smell, block her nostrils. I don't care about the rest. After she's disabled lie her on my bed, cheak for weapons but don't strip her." He grinned. "I want her for myself."
Nuevo Kowloon
02-04-2004, 20:33
Lutent Shivers (Timesplitters) took the photos and E-mailed them too the emporer. She suddenly noticed the boy who lay drugged and bound next to a crete in the corner, he was like many other prisinors, some of whom where being abused, but he was covred in bllod and sweat. The guard studdyed him, the boy had a good face, a cute one at least and would look good with a bit of cleaning up. "Who is that boy?" She asked a private. "Some kid sir. Visious basted tryed to bite me and kill me he did. With a bayonet. Missed of course just scraped me, but still."
"I'd like to keep him, as a slave of course."
"Sure sir. Your allowed one arn't you your an officer."
"Right. Wd've got unload these slaves and I want that one. Have him undrugged, striped, branded with my mark and taken to my room. I'll provide cloaths for him. Does he speak english?"
"Don't think so sir."
"Fit him with a translator. I don't speak what shit he does and I've got one already. In fact and strip him here for you." She did so, unbinding him and taking his cloaths, he was she decided a fine looking boy. She retied his ropes and drew them extra tight, drawing blood. She didn't care those cuts would heal.
"Keep him bound in my room, I don't want him wreaking things." She looked through the plane window, and saw it was snowing. the other guard saw it too.
"Won't he get cold sir? I mean he might die. The drugs are wearing off now."
"So? It'll do him good. If he dies I'll get another one."
"Yes sir.



Lutent Shiver's quarters, half an hour later...
His captors were kind enough to leave him in the middle of the floor, unguarded, as the drugs wore off.
The cold air also slowed the drying of the blood from his hands and feet.
He looked around the room. They hadn't bothered to turn on a light, so he could (in the overbright conditions) make out most of the layout.
did you know that blood works as a lubricant?
it's acidic as hell (Human blood can rust steel blades in minutes, which is why it's important to wipe off a bayonet, and why Surgeons use stainless tools...) but it's also slippery.
The furnishings weren't made with child-safety in mind, or prisoner holding-these were military quarters.

"Anything can be escaped if you're desperate enough, see? this Tiger chewed his foot off to get out of the trap... this one was likely set by one of our ancestors, to catch a Jap or Frenchman." The memory, of his father taking him out into the jungle to hunt for a predator that was taking livestock off their land came back He had been ten then, and hanging on every word.
Okay, so... what will I sacrifice to get out of the trap? he started to evaluate his situation-at least, at this moment in time.
He curled his fingers back, and felt the plastic joining his wrists.
Cable ties, they hogtied me with cableties...

He rolled upright, kneeling with his back arched to breathe.
The end of a zip-tie is tapered, and the catch inside is just about the right size. [ooc-this part's true, especially the Panduit(c) brand.) He felt where it came out the top, and started bending it backward, until he reached the end.
He closed his eyes, and kept working at it, until the tie was looser.
She hadn't reapplied the strapping-tape, and he'd been too screwed up to notice it before, but the glue-residue was still there.

Freeing one hand allows the other hand to be freed, and the feet.
The one around his neck was the last one off.
He squinted his eyes, and forced them to focus on the clock.
It had taken forty minutes.
The first thing he did, was eliminating light-sources in the room until an acceptable level of darkness could be attained-one that would place whoever was coming at a disadvantage.

He remembered another trip into the jungle outside of their home, and his father showing him another old trap-this one was now the home of a poisonous snake.
"The cobra probably moved in last winter, and couldn't get back out. see the bones? it turned the pit-trap into a hunting ground..."

He began inventorying his environment.

People keep the damnedest things in their rooms. like cooking oil, or vinegar.
Or cleaning supplies.
Interesting things can be done with bleach, ammonia, cooking oil, and laundry detergent... and most of those things are part of grade 7 Chemistry Class.
he found dishes, eating utensils, and a few pans, as well as a hotplate-coffeemaker.
Dinh likes coffee, and makes it fairly well.
He measured out the coffee, added the water, and started a pot brewing while he turned his attention to finishing his accounting.

Lots of possible weapons, they wouldn't leave a potentially dangerous prisoner alone with potential weapons, would they? He felt the burn, and could see it now.
One would think that they would put some effort into breaking an animal before they branded it... he thought grimly.
Independent Hitmen
02-04-2004, 20:35
OOC: Which thread is that, is it the ARP break into open rebellion? If not could you give me a link pls.
Aust
02-04-2004, 21:50
OOC: The ARP breaks into open rebellion. That is the thread.

IC: Shivers stepped into the room. It was dark too dark. Her soildier sence was immedietly on high alert. You didn't get in the ASS without being a good soildier. She had 13 years of training and was as fit as a person could be. The boy came at her with a knife. He slashed, but her vison had ajusted now and she jumped back, sticking out her foot tripping him. He fell to the floor and rolled. She kicked him hard in he chest, at the burn, her foot concted well, winding him. She then kicked he knife out of his hand and fell on him holding on. Forcing the boy to the floor. The boy was strong and he made a despret heave, she was thrown back into the wall. She was stunned and the boy turned looking for his knife or some weapon. She saw a good weapon, viniger. A squeevzy bottle too. She picked it up and took off the cap. She also drew her knife. The boy turned a carving knife in his hand. She fired the viniger and it hit him dead in the eyes. He dropped his knife and clutched his eyes. Acid=eyes=not good. it was a natural human reaction to clutch your eyes. and his body knew that Knife=acid=eyes=even worse. She kicked him hard in the stomoch and he doubled over. then again in the crotch. He lay on the floor, wipeing his eyes. She took the chance to take off her jumper and other cloaths. The she lept upon him and held the knife to his throat she also examind his body more throughly. He had a good, body an athlets body and it was slick with sweat and blood. She pinned im with her legs and slashed with her knife, opening up a cut in the shape of a S marking him as hers. He cried out with pain and his hands left his eyes and she clutched his body close and....
Roman Republic
02-04-2004, 21:54
I want to ask a question. Where can you buy weapons. Please help me
Phyrric
02-04-2004, 23:56
While in flight to Nuevo Kowloon, the X35 fighters received the following orders:

"The nation of Nuevo Kowloon has been bombed by the Nation of Aust. The Senate has just ratified the Declaration of War against the government of Aust for violation of civil liberties, attack on an ally of Phyrric, wrongful death of innocent civilians, disregard for the Protectorite order that was mandated, and extreme violence issued upon the innocent.

You are to sink and destroy anything that bears an Aust flag around or within Nuevo Kowloon."

The 600 X35 engage all Aust units.

Message sent to Tiawan:

As a member of UnAPS, we hereby request the use of your bases as a staging area and jumping point for the attack on Aust.

Pyrrhus
Aust
03-04-2004, 09:32
OOC: RR you can by weapons at a storefront.

IC: Phyrric, I don't have anything around NK. I have one ship, a fortress ship. Aust is a landlocked nation and it is surrounded by allys. It is also mountainus with 6 population centers and 8 airfeild.
_Taiwan
03-04-2004, 09:51
To Phyric:

We give full logistical support to your war effort against the Austian forces. Tainan and Kaoshing have opened their military ports and airports, awaiting the arrival of your forces.

Taiwan is placed on alert lest retaliation is delivered by those opposed to this move.
Aust
03-04-2004, 10:01
To Phyric:

We give full logistical support to your war effort against the Austian forces. Tainan and Kaoshing have opened their military ports and airports, awaiting the arrival of your forces.

Taiwan is placed on alert lest retaliation is delivered by those opposed to this move.
Taiwan we wonder why you do this? We have no quarrel. Leave us be or be distroyed.
Independent Hitmen
03-04-2004, 13:15
Secret IC to Phyrric:

We appear to have a common enemy in Aust and the wrongly installed Emperor. We have the rightful heir in our nation under heavy guard and in a relitevely safe area. We also have been supplying the ARP with weapons and training and we believe that your move needs to be supported for it to succeed without a massive loss of life to your country. Whilst we are not by any means calling you weak or powerless, we feel that we should now lend direct military assistance to the fight for Aust's freedom. We know that Aust is a landlocked nation and is surrounded by allies, we therefore need to work together to forge a path for any possible military force to enter Aust to free the people. We currently have special forces at the ARP airstrip near blood pass, and we believe that we should strike out from here or at least appear to be doing so whilst attacking from another direction.
Please do communicate with us as I believe together we can free the people of Aust and capture those responsible for the terrible loss of life in Neuvo Kowloon.

President J.Anderson of the United States of Independent Hitmen.


OOC: Aust do you have a map of your nation and surrounding ones incase it comes to invasion or sumin? and also are you located anywhere in the Real World? i remember you talking about the antarctic?
Aust
03-04-2004, 13:26
Secret IC to Phyrric:

We appear to have a common enemy in Aust and the wrongly installed Emperor. We have the rightful heir in our nation under heavy guard and in a relitevely safe area. We also have been supplying the ARP with weapons and training and we believe that your move needs to be supported for it to succeed without a massive loss of life to your country. Whilst we are not by any means calling you weak or powerless, we feel that we should now lend direct military assistance to the fight for Aust's freedom. We know that Aust is a landlocked nation and is surrounded by allies, we therefore need to work together to forge a path for any possible military force to enter Aust to free the people. We currently have special forces at the ARP airstrip near blood pass, and we believe that we should strike out from here or at least appear to be doing so whilst attacking from another direction.
Please do communicate with us as I believe together we can free the people of Aust and capture those responsible for the terrible loss of life in Neuvo Kowloon.

President J.Anderson of the United States of Independent Hitmen.


OOC: Aust do you have a map of your nation and surrounding ones incase it comes to invasion or sumin? and also are you located anywhere in the Real World? i remember you talking about the antarctic?
I don't have a map. I can give you a discription. A small map is one SLOA's website. I'm Dimminar (Havn't changed names yet.) I am in the artic in the very center.

IC: Commanding officer Duke Hamish stood in the ARP command center. "THose NK slaves where are they?"
"All over sir. Ones in the palace another in the millatary barracks all over Aust."
"Which is nearist?"
"The one in the barracks of an airfeild near Tanka. Male. Real name: Dinh Pham. Been named Good Ben by his owner. lutent shivers. ASS. The boys kept in an ASS base. Age unknown between 10-15."
"Good attempt a rescue."
"A rescue sir. It's an ASS base!!"
"how long to muster our forces 15 days to get ready. 28 days to get everything operational and the neccary info. 34 days would be about the right time to strike once everything was ready."
"Good muster our forces."
"yes sir." Duke Hamish just hoped the kid could hold on.
Phyrric
03-04-2004, 15:36
OOC: Aust, since posts have been very recent, you do have a great number of forces in or around NK and I intend to kill them all.

As far as being landlocked, I will plow through one of you allies if I have to do so to get to you.

Tiawan: The Nation of Phyrric greatly appreciates the offer and will accept the use of bases. The 125,000 troops that were enroute to have been diverted to your most forward base to await further deployment. An addition 1200 fighters are enroute.

IH: TG me with plans. I accept the offer.
Aust
03-04-2004, 15:46
OOC: Aust, since posts have been very recent, you do have a great number of forces in or around NK and I intend to kill them all.

As far as being landlocked, I will plow through one of you allies if I have to do so to get to you.

Tiawan: The Nation of Phyrric greatly appreciates the offer and will accept the use of bases. The 125,000 troops that were enroute to have been diverted to your most forward base to await further deployment. An addition 1200 fighters are enroute.

IH: TG me with plans. I accept the offer.
Phyrric. I have pulled all my forces back. They will be just about to land or landed now. The last plane(With the slaves on board) has landed. You'd better decide who your going to fight through. Blue Eagle? Danceing moose? ect. SAND, SLOA, SLOAND will stop you. So look on the website. (Link on ARP rebellion thread.) Decide who your going to attack. TG them. Give them time to muster their defence. Wait for your planes to get their.
Nuevo Kowloon
03-04-2004, 17:28
OOC: Aust, since posts have been very recent, you do have a great number of forces in or around NK and I intend to kill them all.

As far as being landlocked, I will plow through one of you allies if I have to do so to get to you.

Tiawan: The Nation of Phyrric greatly appreciates the offer and will accept the use of bases. The 125,000 troops that were enroute to have been diverted to your most forward base to await further deployment. An addition 1200 fighters are enroute.

IH: TG me with plans. I accept the offer.
Phyrric. I have pulled all my forces back. They will be just about to land or landed now. The last plane(With the slaves on board) has landed. You'd better decide who your going to fight through. Blue Eagle? Danceing moose? ect. SAND, SLOA, SLOAND will stop you. So look on the website. (Link on ARP rebellion thread.) Decide who your going to attack. TG them. Give them time to muster their defence. Wait for your planes to get their.

[ooc] Interesting... I'm looking at the map.

Coming from the East side of Antarctica, one would only have to deal with two nations: Rocky Bambino, and "Evil Cabbage Patch Kids".

here's the url for the map:
http://snowylands.tripod.com/

"South" on that map is Poleward, towards the centre of the map, which means you'll be crossing (almost automatically) the Usurper's home turf.
BTW: which # corresponds to Elvindom on this map? IIRC, they're a coastal state on Aust's border (based on RP's) but they don't show up in the regional map...
Justinopian Kingdom
03-04-2004, 17:33
The King of the Justinopian Kingdom will not take immediate military action but if, Credonia, or any listed allies need aid, rest assured, the Justinopian Kingdom will be there.
Independent Hitmen
03-04-2004, 18:58
OOC: NK i was thinking the same thing, although Aust i couldnt find rocky bambino in your region or on a search does it still exist or am i speilling it wrongly. Rocky Bambino is what i searched for.
Nuevo Kowloon
03-04-2004, 19:03
OOC: Aust, since posts have been very recent, you do have a great number of forces in or around NK and I intend to kill them all.

As far as being landlocked, I will plow through one of you allies if I have to do so to get to you.

Tiawan: The Nation of Phyrric greatly appreciates the offer and will accept the use of bases. The 125,000 troops that were enroute to have been diverted to your most forward base to await further deployment. An addition 1200 fighters are enroute.

IH: TG me with plans. I accept the offer.
Phyrric. I have pulled all my forces back. They will be just about to land or landed now. The last plane(With the slaves on board) has landed. You'd better decide who your going to fight through. Blue Eagle? Danceing moose? ect. SAND, SLOA, SLOAND will stop you. So look on the website. (Link on ARP rebellion thread.) Decide who your going to attack. TG them. Give them time to muster their defence. Wait for your planes to get their.

[ooc]
Uhm... point of order here? Phyrric's planes were in-route when you launched the attack, Aust, and their ETA puts them arriving about twenty minutes after the missile strikes hit, which is 12 hours after the first Austian Bomber crossed NK airspace.
The whole battle on the ground was less than 18 hours, your transports aren't even past the Equator unless they're flying godmod speed (due south.) Just because the Prisoner transports made it back, doesn't mean their escorting fighters weren't engaged in the air.
IIRC, you also haven't yet accounted for the NK naval forces, which ships weren't entirely sunk/destroyed by your forces, and weren't in the area-of-effect for that massive missile strike (250-500 miles off shore is 250 to 500 miles off shore. mechanically couldn't get that close before the ICBM's hit.)
You have damaged some of those ships, and sunk some of them, but not all. Similarly, most of the NK fighters knocked down in the second wave of the air battle were stationed inside NK's borders-either because their "Parent" vessel was in port (the NKS Hanoi, which was undergoing refits when you attacked), or because they had a domestic duty-station.
(NKVF-1 is domestically stationed at the Vinh Drinh Lap Naval Station, and NKVF-11 was the Hanoi's, as were most of the Marine squadrons.)
Which situation means that:

A: Palpatine's Intel sources aren't very good. They've accounted for a single battle group off the Antarctic coast that was orbiting (Yes, it's called an "Orbit" when a wet-navy ship is basically moving around at a specific range) about 250 miles off the Antarctic Coastline, (Check this thread in the first 3 pages-there are two. it would have taken a week or more for both/either group already down there to come back-much too long a trip to be here for the ambush/battle-even at 45 Knots for the faster ships going balls-out.)

B: Your planes didn't get out unmolested by Phyrric, or Taiwan, that battle just hasn't been written yet (Likely because Phyrric and Taiwan have both had connection problems over this last week.) likewise, they haven't been hit by surviving NK Naval forces (both above, and below the Equator) yet.

Remember: most of my posts in the last two pages have been at Character Perspective level, named people, most of whom don't have the Omniscience to know what's going on more than a few miles away. The "General" knowledge level stuff is posted in a different tone, and is written from third-person-omniscient/impersonal.
The Captives were taken in the Bin-Loc/Bin-Hoa area of NK, and they were taken and moved before the ICBM strike-the reason for that, is that they wouldn't have lived through being taken afterward-once the Chem missiles you sent spread their poison, anyone on the ground without MOPP-5 or better is going to die in-country.
Being that Taiwan is less than 500 miles east of NK's location, that attack was easily within their ability to observe, and make decisions on within hours (or even minutes if they were debating what to do during the initial phases of your bombing runs.)

This game is Cooperative Storytelling, everyone has to keep him or her self honest for it to be fun for anyone-I wouldn't have posted the losses I did if I could have had a way to avoid it by suspending the laws of physics to lighten the damage taken. I don't like the fact that your missile strike wiped out most of my population and left the rest trapped in a slow death trap-but it's the rule of Natural Consequences that says they are, and by playing with you, I'm agreeing that you have the ability to launch that strike. The Corrolary to that is that you are agreeing that you will also observe commonsense physics, the speeds and time-indexes will be consistent, and that if someone can't post, but is involved or coming, that you won't manipulate the storyline for an unfair advantage (using Player knowledge to make Character decisions when the character can't possibly know the info is one example, the others are traditionally "Godmode" and "Godmod" items already covered elsewhere in the Forums.) Phyrric's planes were already coming, and he would've posted earlier if he could have. (the NS forums were mud all week long.)

Now, I'm going to be "Off" for a while-I have work to do, and I won't be in town much.

Time Index for the portion over NK is 13 Hours after the first bomb fell on Nha Tran, 36 hours after the Aust Airforce left their homeland (based on the map of Antarctica, and the time it takes to fly straight to the target), 30 minutes after the Missiles hit, and twelve to eighteen hours before the IC portions involving Dinh Pham and Amy Cu'ong as prisoners of Aust.
Phyrric
03-04-2004, 23:56
OOC: Aust, since posts have been very recent, you do have a great number of forces in or around NK and I intend to kill them all.

As far as being landlocked, I will plow through one of you allies if I have to do so to get to you.

Tiawan: The Nation of Phyrric greatly appreciates the offer and will accept the use of bases. The 125,000 troops that were enroute to have been diverted to your most forward base to await further deployment. An addition 1200 fighters are enroute.

IH: TG me with plans. I accept the offer.
Phyrric. I have pulled all my forces back. They will be just about to land or landed now. The last plane(With the slaves on board) has landed. You'd better decide who your going to fight through. Blue Eagle? Danceing moose? ect. SAND, SLOA, SLOAND will stop you. So look on the website. (Link on ARP rebellion thread.) Decide who your going to attack. TG them. Give them time to muster their defence. Wait for your planes to get their.

Landlocked means no navy, where is your navy because jusr yesterday you posted an attack, where are they. I do not play the DT games that "I am landlocked, hence, immune from attack" Post appropraitely or the attack on NK might as well be null and void as well.
Phyrric
04-04-2004, 00:08
I found the kink in your "landlocked" armor!

Rocky Bambino does not exist as a nation anymore. I do not need anyones permission to go through there. You arse belongs to me now Aust.

I suggest you start peace terms that are favorable to NK in a mighty way and reparations to all involved.

I await your response.
Nuevo Kowloon
04-04-2004, 06:56
I found the kink in your "landlocked" armor!

Rocky Bambino does not exist as a nation anymore. I do not need anyones permission to go through there. You arse belongs to me now Aust.

I suggest you start peace terms that are favorable to NK in a mighty way and reparations to all involved.

I await your response.

Damn good work, Phyrric. I was questioning the assertion about his being "Surrounded by Allies on all sides" when I looked at the map, but I didn't make the search for any of the names I haven't seen before (being only a January nation...)
I suggest an action to secure it and prevent Rocky Bambino from being ressurrected as a puppet. In the meantime, that gap can be an exploit for an assault landing by ground forces. Make the move "In Character", not out of character.
_Taiwan
04-04-2004, 09:08
To Phyric:

We give full logistical support to your war effort against the Austian forces. Tainan and Kaoshing have opened their military ports and airports, awaiting the arrival of your forces.

Taiwan is placed on alert lest retaliation is delivered by those opposed to this move.
Taiwan we wonder why you do this? We have no quarrel. Leave us be or be distroyed.

We are outraged at the launch of WMDs targetted at the civilians of Nuevo Kowloon, one of our nation's allies. We shall continue our support of our allies. Threats will not change our resolve. Good day.
(phone hangs up)

Chen Shui Bian
President of R.O.C

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The ROCA, ROCAF, and ROCN are at 60% mobilisation.

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In parliament today, President Chen's DPP party placed a piece of legislation regarding whether to go to war with the nation of Aust. The legislature is expected to go to the vote tommorrow morning.

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Secret IC: Twelve Shang Zhou class SSGNs leave dock.

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My research thread for military info :

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=136559&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=
Independent Hitmen
04-04-2004, 13:21
"Mr President i believe the time has come to move forces onto their transports. Our allies are moving." said General Siler as he walked into the Situation Room.

"Ok General make it happen. What are we deploying?"

"Well I Heavy Corps is ready to load onto its transports. Thats 3 Armoured Divisions and 2 Mechanized Infantry. II Airbourne Corps is ready to go as well, 4 Infantry Divisions that can be moved via air transports, they have all the equipment they need to move there by themselfs. The planners have put down one Division will land in the ARP area to support their offensive whilst the other 3 come in with 1st Corps.
We also plan for XII Corps and VII Corps to be mobilised, they are all the units we can transport without jepordising supplies at this time. More troop transports are being recalled from other areas of the world although they wont be availiable for a while sir.
Air Force wise, we can stage bombing raids from home bases, the b-52s, b-2s and b-6's have the range to do it without refueling. F-117s will need refueling but we can organise that over allied airspace.
Naval wise, we have a 4 carrier task force escorting each corps down there, plus another 2 carriers already in the area. We have the cassandra and her battle group on their way back here with transport ships and the 9th Infantry. I've also tasked 3 Iowa Battleships to go in for shore bombardment although we are unaware as to enemy positions. I have KH-11s and other satilites tasked for that today. We also are deploying 8 DARKSTAR units aboard the carriers to give realtime data."

"Ok General, keep me informed. Mobilization approved. I will speak to the Senate today for confirmation." replied the President.

OOC: Ill post division strengths, names of ships and other things later. There will also probably be another thread for this as this is a little cluttered and ill put a link here.
Phyrric
04-04-2004, 16:38
"With the latest intelligence given, the Joint Chiefs have a battle plan ready for immediate implementation. We have sent deligates to the Nations of Evil Sour Patch Kids (cannot believe I just typed that name) and CompleteGenocide informing them of our intentions and that the war is not with them, we have no intentions of crossing their borders."

"When can this plan be taken off paper and placed on the battlefield?"

"The forces in Tiawan have already departed and enroute as we speak, they should be joining the drop forces from Epirus I in 6 hours. Another 100,000 troops and 250 units of armor are preparing for immediate departure to Tiawan for back-up and we are placing another 250,000 for immediate deployment within 2 days. The Navy is enroute from prior staging areas off of Allanea and should be stationed in 4 days."

"What will our current forces be by the end of the day?"

"On scene and ready for immediate mobility will be 175,000 troops and 400 units of armor."

"That will not be enough, get more there and have it done yesterday. Get an airfield ready for use for round the clock deployments. Have the men dig in and set a defensive perimeter to fend off attacks. Set up AA and SAM before the onscene commander sets his bunk."

"Aye sir, we will inform MAC and Epirus I to ready the deployment ahead of schedule."

"Make this the most rapid deployment Phyrric has ever performed."

OOC: The routes are Phyrric-Tiawan-Rocky Bambino and Phyrric-Epirus I-Rocky Bambino for deployment. Naval units enroute are 8 carrier groups and 3 assault groups.
Justinopian Kingdom
05-04-2004, 00:52
*as the king sits on his throne in the military room*

"Come general, prepare the armies for war and ready the airports for immediate landing of Credonia and allied nations, in other words, do everything you can to be ready if Credonia or its allies call for our aid."

"Yes your excellency,"

"and you! Come here ambassador, alert all nations in our region and alert the February Alliance incase we fall under attack"

"yes mi lord"

*The King walks off to oversee the readying of the troops*
05-04-2004, 01:39
Credonia has Isochronous' full support against these rogue states, and the RIAF immediately deploys three fighter squadrons of F-22Rs to defend Credonian airspace.
Credonia
05-04-2004, 01:41
ummm..why am i still being mentioned, i left this situation weeks ago guys.....
Phyrric
05-04-2004, 02:42
New thread:

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=137024