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Lower Egypt has captured Israel. I am calling on everyone to attack him and recapture Israel. We need to setup the Jewish state right this time. NO Palestinians and freedom for Israel.

Sign below to join in this pact.

Homer, I suggest you stay out of affairs such as this. It could have dire consequences for your nation.

As a Jewish country ourselves, the Kelonian States should be in support of this motion, however, we do not believe brute force is the way forward in this dispute.

I am not doing this as the President of my nation, but as a Jew. Doujin, if you were Jewish you would do what I am doing. I have seen my people persecuted for generations. I need to take matters in my own hands and screw the consequences. If my nation is destroyed for the establishment of Israel I will die a happy man. It is my duty to God to fight those Muslims who have tried to kill our people for years.

Adonai Barchu Yisrael.

IF enough nations sign on, force will not be neccessary. Sometimes you have to make sacrafises to save our homeland. Without Israel, we lose our holy sites, history, and our identity. Without Israel, the Jews will wander Europe to wait for another Hitler to try his Final Solution.

The land where Isreal is does not belong to the Jews. It belongs to the human race. Who ever resides there, resides there. Islamic peoples have just as equal claim to the land where Israel is as Jewish people do.

I say we give Isreal to the Bhuddists. They can claim Isreal too.

The United States of New Vuhifell is appauled at this cookie-cutter invasion and will immediatly send troops over to Israel to liberate it. As a military status of a "World Policing Force" it is NV's job to protect the sovoernity of nations.

IF enough nations sign on, force will not be neccessary. Sometimes you have to make sacrafises to save our homeland. Without Israel, we lose our holy sites, history, and our identity. Without Israel, the Jews will wander Europe to wait for another Hitler to try his Final Solution.

Those places are protected by the LowerEgyptian government.
While we allow people to practice Islam, just as we allow people to practice Judaism, the government has no official religion.
And how are you losing your identity, are the jews in Israel being persecuted, the Premiere will scourge the local communist party if that is the case.
The LE govt. has a policy of encouraging the promotion of the area's history. And Judaism plays a big role in the history of Israel province.

The land of Israel is for the Jewish Zionist. It is our only holyland. We need Israel or the Jews will be wiped from the Earth. If Israel had existed in the 1930's, the German Jews would flee to Israel and be saved.

many of the Jews did try to flee to Palestine/Isreal before, during and after the war

I don't care, my people need their homeland. We need a Jewish state and if you can't understand it maybe I will explain it to you with weapons

The land where Isreal is does not belong to the Jews. It belongs to the human race. Who ever resides there, resides there. Islamic peoples have just as equal claim to the land where Israel is as Jewish people do.
The jews have a greater claim, that is why when LE troops went in we permanently "resettled" all the Palestinians to other parts of Lower Egypt.

Yes, but not before. When the war started, it was too late.

I don't care, my people need their homeland. We need a Jewish state and if you can't understand it maybe I will explain it to you with weapons
We will react strongly to agitators.

Yes, but not before. When the war started, it was too late.
when the war started, Hitler wouldn't let the Jews go anywhere, except the gas chambers.

Give my people freedom or God will give the Jews a 2nd Passover to celebrate. It won't be just the 1st born this time. Try all people of child bearing age or younger to wipe out your population.

Off the Point: Happy Pesach to all Jews.

The Jews did not have a place to go to before the war. They need an Israel to escape from anti-semetism and a land to call their own.

OK, Homer, I'm ready to rock!

If LE withdraws from Israel, then the Jews enemies will attack them and persecute them again cause the Jews will no longer have someone protecting them.

Message to Lower Egypt:

LET MY PEOPLE GO!!! Remember when Moses said this 10 plagues followed. I think you might end up with eternal winter (nuclear winter) and darkness under a mushroom cloud if you don't head my warning.

During the 20s and 30s, Zionist camps apeared in Isreal, and many Jews went to these camps. After WWII, the state of Israel was declared (didn't need much declaring-much of Israel was Jewish)

I will defend them. I will give them 5 of my 14 Carrier battle groups and defend them. I will deploy my whole army. All the other Jews will come and protect them

Homer, even my army could beat yours.....

You dont have the budget for forteen carrier groups.

You have no income tax. Therefore total tax revenue is low. Therefore the government wont have that much for military expenditure.

Its tough, but c'est la vie.

I and all other nations with Jews will protect our homeland. I will protect Israel with nukes.

You couldn't afford 14 battlegroups.

Have you seen Northrop Grumman, his prices are so low anyone can afford them

I will defend them. I will give them 5 of my 14 Carrier battle groups and defend them. I will deploy my whole army. All the other Jews will come and protect them
If you use your nukes, I will launch a nuclear counterstrike. What good is Israel for Jews if you turn it into a radioactive wasteland.
And my carrier group can beat yours, that and I have powerful allies which I already telegrammed for support.

He might be able to use those sexy Britich or French carriers and a few small fishing boats-that might work.

Oh, yeah the US won many wars despite not having an income tax until the early 20th century.

Oh, yeah the US won many wars despite not having an income tax until the early 20th century.

I and all other nations with Jews will protect our homeland. I will protect Israel with nukes.

Due to outside threats the LE nuclear force is now on DEFCON 4.

I and all other nations with Jews will protect our homeland. I will protect Israel with nukes.

Due to outside threats the LE nuclear force is now on DEFCON 4.

How much do you want for Israel? THe Jews will pay you to avoid a conflict and free our brothers

You are really going to be rich for that...

How much do you want for Israel? THe Jews will pay you to avoid a conflict and free our brothers
A permanent peace treaty, a treaty of military and economic alliance, a treaty of open borders, a treaty for the continuation of religious freedom in Israeli lands, a treaty obligating Israel to respect human rights, the right to reannex Israel if any of these agreements are violated,
and 250 trillion US dollars.

You are really going to be rich for that...
K, I make it easy for him. I knock it down to 150 trillion.

Because the Empire has always sided with the Isaelis, the Empire will buy Israel, re-establish it, and let whoever whishes to defend it from arabs, defend it.

Of course, we will have to pay over several years for Isreal. We can pay 10 trillion a year.

Because the Empire has always sided with the Isaelis, the Empire will buy Israel, re-establish it, and let whoever whishes to defend it from arabs, defend it.
For a december 2002 nation you haven't posted much have you.

<<OOC:Because this looks to be degenerating into a n00bfest, I won't be getting involved. However...>>

"We strongly condemn the Zionist aggression that seems to permeate the actions of these would-be 'liberators.' Edolia cares not whether or not the 'Jews' have a homeland, but strongly condemns imperialism in all its forms. If the 'Jews' wish to live somewhere where they are not oppressed, they can come to Edolia.

We warn that if nuclear weapons are used, the offenders and quite a number of 'holy' sites with Palestine, will be turned into radioactive craters."
Matthew von Pickett
Minister for Foreign Affairs

For a december 2002 nation you haven't posted much have you.

No I havent.

Of course, we will have to pay over several years for Isreal. We can pay 10 trillion a year.
which? the 250 trillion or the 150 trillion?

(I'm taking your word for it that your budget is over 10 trillion per year, even as old as your nation is.)

150 trillion....not cheap for a nation..lol..

Doesnt matter. We will still be paying 10 trillion a year.

150 trillion....not cheap for a nation..lol..
yeah but look at the nukes, war sats, tanks, ships, and planes I can buy.

Homersimpson, the Supreme Court of NV finds you guilty of all charges related insanity and we will have troops deployed to your nation to remove you from power shortly. Happy Easter, the easter bunnies cominto town.

Doesnt matter. We will still be paying 10 trillion a year.K, your budget according to thrace calculator is 40 trillion.
We will accept your offer if you accept our other terms.

150 trillion....not cheap for a nation..lol..
yeah but look at the nukes, war sats, tanks, ships, and planes I can buy.OOC:lol
Yeah, its his fault for starting in out violently.

What "other terms" could these be?

OOC/ Just a point of order, the Palestinians have the best current claim to the land, just as the French have the best current claim to the land that was Gaul.

Giving Israel to the Jews is on the level of giving France to the Italians because they once controlled it.

Israel only exists because the British decided to create it. There were very few Jews there, and very many Palestinians (which is why the area was known as Palestine (well, that and the Romans called it that)). Regardless, the country is artificial, and therefore its claim must be artificial.

Israel, the real Israel, died long ago. Creating it was a mistake that set the Arabs and the Jews at one anothers throats, something that had never happened before. It was not happenstance that some of the largest Jewish population centers were in places like Baghdad and Cairo.

The creation of Israel was the worst thing that could have possibly happened to the Jews, as this post so clearly points out. Once more, Palestine/Israel will be ravaged with blood, albiet fake blood. Just let it go; its not like killing people will improve the situation one bit. The Israelites still will not have self determination, only rule by another occupying power. /OOC

His other terms were a peace treaty and no war against him. I can do that, and I will protect Israel with my military. It is a great day to be a Jew.

I have seen the other terms (was being retarded and didnt see them)

IC:

The Emperor stands on a podium, preparing his speach.

"Great people of the world, it is with great pleasure that I accept the treaty with LowerEgypt and take control of Israel. Israel will function according to the treaty, and the Empire will contruct an Israeli military (OOC:bought of course with Israeli money, not my own) solely for defensive purposes. Until the contruction is complete, the Empire will station its own military there."

I have seen the other terms (was being retarded and didnt see them)

IC:

The Emperor stands on a podium, preparing his speach.

"Great people of the world, it is with great pleasure that I accept the treaty with LowerEgypt and take control of Israel. Israel will function according to the treaty, and the Empire will contruct an Israeli military (OOC:bought of course with Israeli money, not my own) solely for defensive purposes. Until the contruction is complete, the Empire will station its own military there."
I agree to this treaty. Until the Israeli army is ready to stand on its own, however, LowerEgyptian armed forces will remain in Israel as advisors and military trainers. The rest will act as protectors and remain in their bases.
With incoming international troops, we need to keep only 40,000 there and the remaining 340,000 are being withdrawn.
We will also be donating 20 F22's, 15 F16's, one stealth bomber, 50 M1A1 and 70 T90 tanks to the (yet to be created) Israeli armed forces.

Just for the record, any hostile action against the new state of Israel will be considered an act of war against LowerEgypt.

What shall the population of Israel be? Will it be the RL pop. or should we make a new one up, since this seems to be at a later time

I don't care, my people need their homeland. We need a Jewish state and if you can't understand it maybe I will explain it to you with weapons

A Jewish homeland? Fine. But what about the Palestinians? What of them?

I have a sizeable Jewish population, from some refugees i took in; although proud of being Jewish, they dont seem in any hurry to return to their homeland.

Not that I'm saying there SHOULDNT be an Israeli homeland. There should. But what will you do with the Palestinians?

The Arab Socialist Republic of Al Anbar will accept no Zionist entity that has control over Palestinian lands and prosecutes Palestinians. We will fight to the death to protect the Palestinians.

I don't care, my people need their homeland. We need a Jewish state and if you can't understand it maybe I will explain it to you with weapons

A Jewish homeland? Fine. But what about the Palestinians? What of them?

I have a sizeable Jewish population, from some refugees i took in; although proud of being Jewish, they dont seem in any hurry to return to their homeland.

Not that I'm saying there SHOULDNT be an Israeli homeland. There should. But what will you do with the Palestinians?
All Palestinians were forced out of their homes and relocated to the Sahara when LowerEgypt invaded and annexed Israel and Jordan and the southern most 5 miles of lebanon.

The Arab Socialist Republic of Al Anbar will accept no Zionist entity that has control over Palestinian lands and prosecutes Palestinians. We will fight to the death to protect the Palestinians.
Then you shall go to war with Egypt and we shall defeat you and take the rest of Lebanon and the western half of syria from you. :twisted:

What shall the population of Israel be? Will it be the RL pop. or should we make a new one up, since this seems to be at a later time

Not for long you don't.
Loweregyptian forces preparing to invade AlAnbar to liberate Lebanon and remove the threat to Israeli security.
:twisted:

What shall the population of Israel be? Will it be the RL pop. or should we make a new one up, since this seems to be at a later time
Let's set it at 5 million. Cause it is a new nation.

*Tag*

Ness Ziona would like to be one of the first nations to recognize the new Zionist state.
We would also like to open an embassy in Israel, and an Israeli embassy will be consructed here if it will be needed.

<<OOC: If we didn't think this was such a silly situation anyway and that people aren't being very good RPers, Edolia would be outraged.

Actually, it was the United States that created Israel. They sent the money to the Jewish terrorist groups, they bribed and threatened the third world nations to vote for partition in the UN and they sent weapons to the new Israeli state. The British abstained from the voting.>>

I would like to propose an economic and trading alliance with Lower Egypt and Israel. I would also like a defense treaty with those 2 nations to prevent Al Anbar from invading them. The Lower Egypt government has acted well during this situation. I would like to apologize for any threats made.

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H.J. Simpson

I would like to propose an economic and trading alliance with Lower Egypt and Israel. I would also like a defense treaty with those 2 nations to prevent Al Anbar from invading them. The Lower Egypt government has acted well during this situation. I would like to apologize for any threats made.

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H.J. Simpson
We could use an alliance the Nazis from Unclebob.
They have launched a Pearl Harbor attack on our nation, illegally landed troops on our Morrocan province and have pledged to wipe out the Jewish people with their "final solution"
my forces suffered heavy casualties in the attacks and I have suffered a huge number of civilian casualties when he attacked my capital.
I am at war.
Need to watch Al Anbar though cause this Hitler guy keeps trying to get Al Anbar help him wipe out the jews.

I will send my troops immediatly, just tell me where. Your nation is large enough to take out Al-Andar on your own, but I don't know about this Nazi. I will let you keep the land gained. We are no where near your region and don't need it. I reccomend you buy from Northrop-Grumman. He has cheap prices.

Need to watch Al Anbar though cause this Hitler guy keeps trying to get Al Anbar help him wipe out the jews.

Al Anbar will never support Nazi-countries and their supporters.

"We might be willing to sign a treaty of friendship over this issue with Al Anbar. An alliance could be formed to protect against Zionist aggression. These Jewish nationalists are no better than the Nazis that they claim to be so adamently against."
Matthew von Pickett
Minister for Foreign Affairs