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Due to threats recieved from the terrorist forces of Holy Panooly, and Huzen Hagen, we are now raising the current national readiness level to the "Elevated" setting, and all missile facilities have been put at standby.

Several targets have been selected in case of an occuring attack, including key Huzen Hagen targets.

All diplomats from Huzen Hagen have been arrested, and been taken to a humanitarian approved holding cell, until further notice...

TV5 News: This is a TV5 Exclusives, responding to the arrests in the Austar Union, Prime Minister Alan Kyo Takashi has just released this official statement from Parliment.

"The Armed Republic Of Terra Pacifica officially condemns this action taken from the Austar Union, by doing this I purpose immediate economic and political embargos against the Austar Union and given the missile threat residing on this earth I have placed all Armed Force Personnel on Immediate Alert and Civilian Draft Reserves on Standby"

TV5 News: This is a TV5 Exclusives, responding to the arrests in the Austar Union, Prime Minister Alan Kyo Takashi has just released this official statement from Parliment.

"The Armed Republic Of Terra Pacifica officially condemns this action taken from the Austar Union, by doing this I purpose immediate economic and political embargos against the Austar Union and given the missile threat residing on this earth I have placed all Armed Force Personnel on Immediate Alert and Civilian Draft Reserves on Standby"

Well, considering that I have no current assets that I know of in your nation, I dont really see how that affects me...

It's more symbolic really, just trying to emphasis on the disapproval from my state. It's doesn't really cause any hard to you, then again you don't gain any support from the ARTP. Also trying to get involved and have a little fun :wink:

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With elections coming up and anything terrorist-related sure to be a vote-winner, Beanfold promises to come to the aid of the free peoples of the Auster Union if they engage in armed conflict with those financing terror. We will also offer premium rates in trading links to replace any lost through conflict with other countries, or just generally as it can but help both our economies.

An expeditionary force of 500,000 will be assembled by next week.

With elections coming up and anything terrorist-related sure to be a vote-winner, Beanfold promises to come to the aid of the free peoples of the Auster Union if they engage in armed conflict with those financing terror. We will also offer premium rates in trading links to replace any lost through conflict with other countries, or just generally as it can but help both our economies.

An expeditionary force of 500,000 will be assembled by next week.

We thank you for your support in this matter. It will be noted in future relations...

With elections coming up and anything terrorist-related sure to be a vote-winner, Beanfold promises to come to the aid of the free peoples of the Auster Union if they engage in armed conflict with those financing terror. We will also offer premium rates in trading links to replace any lost through conflict with other countries, or just generally as it can but help both our economies.

An expeditionary force of 500,000 will be assembled by next week.

We thank you for your support in this matter. It will be noted in future relations...

We have a few units we can pledge, HOWEVER, we formally request to see the evidence linking Huzen Hagen to terrorism

Iron Blood supports Austar Union.

Austar, please abandon your military base in our nation now. It's for your own safety.

In that case, we retract our statement. We stand along side Holy Panooly. Auster, if you want our support withdrawal your troops from Holy Panooly.

Austar, please abandon your military base in our nation now. It's for your own safety.

I request some kind of evidence to prove that my base is under threat. If the evidence is substantial, I may withdraw, however, if it just you who is asking for this to happen, I will not withdraw...

I would need to know more about the situation to take a stance on it...what exactly did holy panooly and huzen hagen do? (speciffic threads would be nice) that constituted as terrorist action.

~Prongs

Austar, please abandon your military base in our nation now. It's for your own safety.

I request some kind of evidence to prove that my base is under threat. If the evidence is substantial, I may withdraw, however, if it just you who is asking for this to happen, I will not withdraw...

Just do it. It's my nation and I have the right to confiscate the land you currently have in your possesion.

He's correct. It is his land afterall. And with what's going on now, Austar, I highly doubht a territory dispute is what you want right now.

Holy Panooly and Huzan Hagen have performed no terrorist actions or made threats implying such actions to the knowledge of the international community. The Asutar Union's actions against these nations is both unprovoked and unintelligent. If this is an attempt to give these nations bad face in response to their attempts to seek justice against Credonia's attacks on civilian targets, then we are truly appalled at your attempt at deception and war. We place full support with Holy Panooly and Huzan Hagen.

Small OOC reminder: Austar, have you read Automagfreek's sticky? If you have then you would have read that you should not wage war on nations because an ally's security is at risk. It's unnessecary and not smart to do.

We change our positions once more. We will not support Austar at all. Unless sufficient evidence is shown.

To those nations who think this is unprovoked:

If you actually sought information from your intelligence agencies aka the forum search button, you will find that this is a long standing conflict, and that HP and HH both do support terrorism.

To HP:

Who ever said this was an act of war? This may simply be a deteerent for you to begin attacks.

And if you try to invade the territory I bought from you, that will be considered a direct invasion of my territory...meaning, I will be forced to defend my own soveriegn territory...

Very well austar. You may keep your base if you remove the 150 KM missiles and reduce your staff with 50%.

Very well austar. You may keep your base if you remove the 150 KM missiles and reduce your staff with 50%.

My base is not negotiable

Very well austar. You may keep your base if you remove the 150 KM missiles and reduce your staff with 50%.

My base is not negotiable

Yes it is. Do it now. Remember our agreement? I'm not responsible for the actions of the locals. Think of it as a warning.

Yes it is. Do it now. Remember our agreement? I'm not responsible for the actions of the locals. Think of it as a warning.

Well remember the 5km perimeter. Now broadcast this to your locals:

"Any breach of the 5km perimeter zone, will be fired upon without investigation. This serves as an only warning, and by setting foot inside the perimeter, you are assuming full responsibility for any death/injury that may occur.

Also note, that if the target is deemed governmental, it will result in the response, as if AU territory is being invaded."

Very well. But before we are going to start hostilities can't we hold a peace conference about this? I think this is the perfect time to start diplomatic talks about this whole terrorist and terrorism thing.

Very well. But before we are going to start hostilities can't we hold a peace conference about this? I think this is the perfect time to start diplomatic talks about this whole terrorist and terrorism thing.

You may if you wish, and depending on the circumstances on the location and stuff, I may attend... but it must be closed to just you and me. There seems to be a bit a cold war between us...

OOC: Cold Wars are exciting...

OOC: Huzen Hagen is a terrorist nation? damnit. I sold weapons to them once. Fudge! Won't happen again I assure you all, honest mistake.

OOC: Huzen Hagen is a terrorist nation? damnit. I sold weapons to them once. Fudge! Won't happen again I assure you all, honest mistake.

OOC: LOL!

OOC: Huzen Hagen is a terrorist nation? damnit. I sold weapons to them once. Fudge! Won't happen again I assure you all, honest mistake.

No, he isn't. It's just propaganda against anti-Credonia nations.

Well I'm a nation with guilty until proved innocent so if you can show me that Huzen Hagen is not I will gladly revoke my statement.

OOC: Huzen Hagen is a terrorist nation? damnit. I sold weapons to them once. Fudge! Won't happen again I assure you all, honest mistake.

No, he isn't. It's just propaganda against anti-Credonia nations.

Let Layateb do his own research. I have intelligence...aka...threads that show he is a terrorist supporter. I will let them do their own damn research if people want to find out about this in detail.

There have been no posts showing him partaking in terrorist activities. Austar Union has failed to supply actual evidence. Huzen Hagen is innocent. In a recent thread, Austar has been involved in an assassination attempt against Aust.

There have been no posts showing him partaking in terrorist activities. Austar Union has failed to supply actual evidence. Huzen Hagen is innocent. In a recent thread, Austar has been involved in an assassination attempt against Aust.

Again, if you do your research, you will find that it was against a key person who was threatening myself, my allies, and Aust himself...

If you had solid evidence, you would provide a link. I'll expect it in the RL morning. I'm going to bed.

I don't see any threads either showing he supports terrorists. MY statement was made in haste and I therefore withdraw it unless evidence can be shown to the contrary.

If you had solid evidence, you would provide a link. I'll expect it in the RL morning. I'm going to bed.

The point is not whether I have evidence or not. I do, I just dont feel the need to justify myself to the likes of you.

I don't see any threads either showing he supports terrorists. MY statement was made in haste and I therefore withdraw it unless evidence can be shown to the contrary.

Click search, and search posts made by him...

I don't see any threads either showing he supports terrorists. MY statement was made in haste and I therefore withdraw it unless evidence can be shown to the contrary.

Click search, and search posts made by him...

I have. You show me this evidence undeniable. You are the one making the claim, prove it.

Huzen Hagen threatens Credonia that he will support terrorists

Credonias may pale in comparison to others but the fact that they claim to always protect civilians and that they attack nations for having WMD's then use them without a thought is a crime in itself. If Credonia is not brought to justice i will supply all the terrorist nations with WMD's to even the score, we'll see if Credonia likes it when his people are the ones dying

Evidence: See post #14 (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=130901&start=0)

Our threat remains. If Credonia is not brought to justice we will fill the heavens rim so full of WMD's they'll be coming out the chimmney. The death of its citizens seems to be the only thing Credonia will pay attention to

Evidence: See post #17 (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=130901&start=0)

Intelligence shows that a Huzen Hagen agent may be meeting with terrorists, to discuss cooperation

Secret IC: the Huzeny agent arrived with some good news, "My government is most impressed with your activities. Your enemies must be brought down but the weapons at your disposal seem inadecuate. I can arrange a deal for you to get Tabun, Smallpox, VX, Sarin and nuclear weapons. We will also train your men how to create more of them and our passport database is at your disposable. How does that sound to you?

ooc: tg me for details

Evidence: See post #18 (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=122764&start=20)

Holy Panooly Admits he has Terrorist Allies

Credonia, must I remind you how powerful my alliance with Huzen Hagen Stevid, British Navy and the other nations is? You don't stand a chance if war breaks out yet again. Try to imagine how it looks when chemical missiles rain down on your pitiful nation. In fact, I don't think you want to know the consequences. Your actions may sound hard but when your borders have been breached open we can easily take the softer parts within. This is a very tough situation when it comes to allies and I'm not even counting the terrorist nations who are with us so better start finding some people who are willing to fight an invisible enemy.

Evidence: Post #4 (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=130901&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=20)

An Intercepted Message Shows that Holy Panooly is secretly supplying WMD's to terrorists

No, sorry we do not sell this to terrorists

Secret Message:
Wire me an encrypted telegram with your order and it will be sent as "humanitarian aid" in International Red Cross ships. After I collected the trippled profit from Credonia, you will get a small share (15%) of it too.

Evidence: Post #3 (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=128166&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=20)

These are just quotes. I want thread URLs to show that they actually posted that.

I just invaded Europe.

Anyone can do such things as that. See why URLs are necessary.

OOC: Auster, usually people would like to see the links as well.

So, you are declaring war on them for donating weapons to anti-Credonian resistence movements? Might I point out that on those threads that are recognized as up to date, no actual action was taken.

My evidence post has been edited incorperating some links. Please acknowlage these asap, as I fear they may choose to change these posts...

I'm not declaring war, just stating that my readyness levels are being raised because of these situations. And not because they are simply providing weapons, but because we view the providing of weapons to a terrorist as giving them support, thus being a terrorist supporter...

Should the nation of Austar Union engage the terrorists, the Dominion of Xha'dam will provide whatever support it can within the limits of the Allied States of EuroIslanders Charter.

OOC: More or less anything short of direct military intervention.

IC: In the mean time, Xha'dam internal security is now on high alert.

See now was that hard. We'll have to review the situation more carefully but in light of the actions posted at the very top of that thread I can sort of see why one would resort to such acts. However, that shouldn't make it right.

Should the nation of Austar Union engage the terrorists, the Dominion of Xha'dam will provide whatever support it can within the limits of the Allied States of EuroIslanders Charter.

OOC: More or less anything short of direct military intervention.

IC: In the mean time, Xha'dam internal security is now on high alert.

Thankyou for your support Xha'dam. I hope this well cornerstone a great future between our two relations as nations...

See now was that hard. We'll have to review the situation more carefully but in light of the actions posted at the very top of that thread I can sort of see why one would resort to such acts. However, that shouldn't make it right.

Do you mind doing me a favour?

Can you post this if you acknowledge the evidence:

"I, as a neutral member of the international community, fully recognise the evidence posted by the Republic of Austar Union as true on page 2 of this thread."

It will just prevent them from changing things to suit their own arguements...

See now was that hard. We'll have to review the situation more carefully but in light of the actions posted at the very top of that thread I can sort of see why one would resort to such acts. However, that shouldn't make it right.

Do you mind doing me a favour?

Can you post this if you acknowledge the evidence:

"I, as a neutral member of the international community, fully recognise the evidence posted by the Republic of Austar Union as true on page 2 of this thread."

It will just prevent them from changing things to suit their own arguements...

Well I can give you this. I'm not taking any sides but I am not neutral.

Well then just leave out the neurtrility part, and just say "as a responsible member of the international community" instead...

My word is good enough as such. There is no need for the rest as my word has yet to be broken.

I suppose that'll be good enough then. Thanks...

Although the Aequatian Republic has had somewhat of a rocky history with the Republic of Austar Union, we find their actions suitable as a reaction to recent threats, however, more peaceful means such as negotiation may be prefered.

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I'm off to bed. Good luck all parties on your venture.

This has been an official tag, though despite all the posts previously, this is to ensure that I pay attention to this thread in the future.

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Huzen Hagen threatens Credonia that he will support terrorists

Credonias may pale in comparison to others but the fact that they claim to always protect civilians and that they attack nations for having WMD's then use them without a thought is a crime in itself. If Credonia is not brought to justice i will supply all the terrorist nations with WMD's to even the score, we'll see if Credonia likes it when his people are the ones dying

Evidence: See post #14 (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=130901&start=0)

Our threat remains. If Credonia is not brought to justice we will fill the heavens rim so full of WMD's they'll be coming out the chimmney. The death of its citizens seems to be the only thing Credonia will pay attention to

Evidence: See post #17 (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=130901&start=0)

Intelligence shows that a Huzen Hagen agent may be meeting with terrorists, to discuss cooperation

Secret IC: the Huzeny agent arrived with some good news, "My government is most impressed with your activities. Your enemies must be brought down but the weapons at your disposal seem inadecuate. I can arrange a deal for you to get Tabun, Smallpox, VX, Sarin and nuclear weapons. We will also train your men how to create more of them and our passport database is at your disposable. How does that sound to you?

ooc: tg me for details

Evidence: See post #18 (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=122764&start=20)

Holy Panooly Admits he has Terrorist Allies

Credonia, must I remind you how powerful my alliance with Huzen Hagen Stevid, British Navy and the other nations is? You don't stand a chance if war breaks out yet again. Try to imagine how it looks when chemical missiles rain down on your pitiful nation. In fact, I don't think you want to know the consequences. Your actions may sound hard but when your borders have been breached open we can easily take the softer parts within. This is a very tough situation when it comes to allies and I'm not even counting the terrorist nations who are with us so better start finding some people who are willing to fight an invisible enemy.

Evidence: Post #4 (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=130901&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=20)

An Intercepted Message Shows that Holy Panooly is secretly supplying WMD's to terrorists

No, sorry we do not sell this to terrorists

Secret Message:
Wire me an encrypted telegram with your order and it will be sent as "humanitarian aid" in International Red Cross ships. After I collected the trippled profit from Credonia, you will get a small share (15%) of it too.

Evidence: Post #3 (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=128166&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=20)

YOU CANT LOOK AT SECRET IC POSTS OR YOU HAVE TO RP HOW YOU CAN BREAK THE ENCRYPTION. THANK YOU.


godmodder.

You CAN decrypt and intercept messages. Thats how wars are won genius. Its not totally godmodding unless he cant provide proof that he has such capabilities.

Example: WWI, WWII

Ok if you say how to crack a 100 digit prime number encryption then I'll believe you.

OOC: to start saying you can encrypt secret messages is taking the RP a bit too seriously don't you think.

My government and military al use a one time pad system of communicating. You cannot crack it and you don't know where the heavens rim is so how do you know i was there?

OOC: to start saying you can encrypt secret messages is taking the RP a bit too seriously don't you think.

Nope, if they want to read secret messages then you have to say how you can crack a heavily encoded message. This is only to prevent everyone reading "secret IC" posts. If you want to use it as proof against someone do tell how you got it.

OOC: It is possible to decrypt secret messages. Because you did not use a very complex system to encrypt them, I was able to. Actually, a good way to encrypt messages is to actually make some kind of a code, and use that. Thats what I do when I want to encrypt my messages. By posting "Secret IC:" you are simply encrypting your messages into a very weak coding system, which can easily be deciphered.

As for the actional things, I agree that I cannot say that it happened for sure. Watch my wording, and you will see that I stated that I had recieved intelligence that it happened. Now of course, everyone has a right to their intelligence agency, and likewise, everyone has a right to properly encode their messages.

--Double Post--

OOC: Look, Austar Union. I can see where you are coming from but people don't want to spend god knows how many hours inventing their own code to use on NS when they are meant to be telling a story.

Now Holy Panooly's nation is capable of the scientific feat of splitting the atom, they have nuclear weapons they developed themselves like all nations did... how the hell do you think they will be sending their secret messages? By using the old A=1 system?

The point is that he should be allowed to put "Encrypted" above his post, or "Secret IC" because it represents his nation trying to keep something secret. If you want to break the code work it out with him but you should at least put alot of RP effort into breaking someones code... maybe a whole new thread...

[quote="Austar Union"]Due to threats recieved from the terrorist forces of Holy Panooly, and Huzen Hagen, we are now raising the current national readiness level to the "Elevated" setting, and all missile facilities have been put at standby.

Several targets have been selected in case of an occuring attack, including key Huzen Hagen targets.

All diplomats from Huzen Hagen have been arrested, and been taken to a :roll: humanitarian approved holding cell, until further notice...[/quote

Costeau has sent coalition forces to holy Panooly and Huzen Hagen!

OOC: Look, Austar Union. I can see where you are coming from but people don't want to spend god knows how many hours inventing their own code to use on NS when they are meant to be telling a story.

Now Holy Panooly's nation is capable of the scientific feat of splitting the atom, they have nuclear weapons they developed themselves like all nations did... how the hell do you think they will be sending their secret messages? By using the old A=1 system?

The point is that he should be allowed to put "Encrypted" above his post, or "Secret IC" because it represents his nation trying to keep something secret. If you want to break the code work it out with him but you should at least put alot of RP effort into breaking someones code... maybe a whole new thread...

OOC: I agree, partially. There are actual programs that can encrypt blocks of text. For example, I found a program that can turn text into binary, and then back again. Surely if he is willing to RP properly, and what he wants to say is important enough, then he is willing to make some kind of a code. Or at least use the telegram feature of the game, which is what the feature was made for...

Simply put, its impossible to RP breaking a code, if the code doesnt even exist...

EDIT: Actually, I have sent several secret messages. One thing I found, was to post the message offsite, then telegram them the URL of my message. It works really easily, and if they manage to find out the message, then I can only recognise the fact...

OOC: Your missing the point. NS isn't about winning, it's about telling a story and most of use don't have the time to use binary from sites we've found... because then you would still de-code it and say "Ah HA!".

NS is about the story... I've wrote alot of stuff and my average RP post is about 500+ words each. Most of the time people want to show the world what they are doing, but not in a IC way. Wazzu is sneaking in Arda... he's using "Secret IC" and I know he would be pissed off if someone just went

"I use AI decoder... I decode it"

Without any effort at all. Put a story into it or play some game you can win.

OOC: Your missing the point. NS isn't about winning, it's about telling a story and most of use don't have the time to use binary from sites we've found... because then you would still de-code it and say "Ah HA!".

NS is about the story... I've wrote alot of stuff and my average RP post is about 500+ words each. Most of the time people want to show the world what they are doing, but not in a IC way. Wazzu is sneaking in Arda... he's using "Secret IC" and I know he would be pissed off if someone just went

"I use AI decoder... I decode it"

Without any effort at all. Put a story into it or play some game you can win.

OOC: Hmmm, I agree somewhat. Well anyway, its already been done, so from now on I will post the actual RP of decoding it...