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Admiral Miller, Admiral in Chief of Doujin's Navy, is calling a conference with interested nations who are approved to join over the future of naval warfare. The conference will be held aboard the DN Behemoth (http://www.geocities.com/doujincorp/leviathon.html), temporary Flagship of the Doujin Navy. Only nations who are considered in good standing and are relatively close in relations with Doujin are allowed to join.

[OOC: If you are interested, post here and I will approve or deny.]

Nations Involved:
Soviet Bloc
Crookfur
Scandavian States
The Freethinkers
New Empire
Lutrae
Credonia
Pwnica
War_in_heaven
The Zoogie People

[OOC]: My RP is crap, fair warning.

[IC]:
Pwnica wishes to send a delegate in order to attend this conference, with Doujin's approval.

Pwnica is welcome to come, but we prefer that the leader of your military / Naval forces come. Unless that is what you meant by delegate.

Very well. We will arrange for General Axx, the head of our Ground and Naval forces, to arrive on the Behemoth via helicopter at the time and date of the conference.

[OOC]: When is this going to be held? In Realtime, that is.

penguisiana wishes to send general Roseri to the conference


OOC: sorry about last time, just trying to get a better relationship going

The Justinopian Kingdom requests admittance into the grand vessel of Doujin's. If accepted, the JK will send it's Naval Commander in Chief,
Sr. Justin, to the vessel.

Penguisiana, you can come.

[Notice]
All parties who attend must sign a non-disclosure agreement, as sensitive information regarding Doujin's Navy will be released at this meeting.

The Justinopian Kingdom requests admittance into the grand vessel of Doujin's. If accepted, the JK will send it's Naval Commander in Chief,
Sr. Justin, to the vessel.

Denied, because I hate the name Justin. :P

Whatever

Pwnica will, of course, comply with this request. General Axx will sign the agreement when he arrives.

[Semi-OOC] I'm assuming Axx can come with bodyguards, right?

I don't see that as being a very good political reason but if you must act like an idiot so be it

wow :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

The Freethinkers, home of the builders of the Leviathan class ( :wink: ) will of course be attending. Our representative will be Fleet Admiral Roger Jefferson, MCC, FNS, head of the Freethinker Naval Strategy Unit.

Does anyone else here think that just because I have the word Justin inmy coutries name I can't join?:

Pwnica will, of course, comply with this request. General Axx will sign the agreement when he arrives.

[Semi-OOC] I'm assuming Axx can come with bodyguards, right?

Pwnica, you are permitted bodyguards, but for every 2 bodyguards present there will be one Doujin Trooper present, not just for your added protection but for security reasons.

[OOC]
Justinopian Kingdom, stop being such a baby. He could've RPed a normal reason if he wanted to. After all, he gets to decide who comes or not. Get over it.

Want a political reason? ok

IC:

Due to Justinopian Kingdom's lack of naval presence in the world, and relatively new government, Doujin must deny their request to join the conference.

Want a political reason? ok

IC:

Due to Justinopian Kingdom's lack of naval presence in the world, and relatively new government, Doujin must deny their request to join the conference.

Agreed. General Axx will arrive with two bodyguards (one of which will be flying the helicopter).

[OOC]
Brrgah. Forums moving slo*10wly.

Agreed. General Axx will arrive with two bodyguards (one of which will be flying the helicopter).

[OOC]
Brrgah. Forums moving slo*10wly.

Agreed. General Axx will arrive with two bodyguards (one of which will be flying the helicopter).

[OOC]
Brrgah. Forums moving slo*10wly.

The Phoenixius Council requests an invitation to this meeting. If our offer is accepted, our Admiral Havola will proceed to join up with the Doujin ship immediately.

Thank you for considering our offer.

The Phoenixius Council requests an invitation to this meeting. If our offer is accepted, our Admiral Havola will proceed to join up with the Doujin ship immediately.

Thank you for considering our offer.

The Imperial Overlords of Swirrhirr wishes to send General Stewart and five soldiers and one pilot for the Phantom A-transports. We hope to hear from Doujin soon. 8) :arrow: 8)

Yes, the forums are fine around 7 am in the morning but during the day they shit. Hell, I considered stealing 3 servers from a local school and shiping them fed-ex to whoever hosts nationstates..

Phoenixus, you can come per agreement to sign the NDA. Any and all parties may board the DN Behemoth at this current time.

Yes, the forums are fine around 7 am in the morning but during the day they shit. Hell, I considered stealing 3 servers from a local school and shiping them fed-ex to whoever hosts nationstates..

Phoenixus, you can come per agreement to sign the NDA. Any and all parties may board the DN Behemoth at this current time.

Admiral James T. Wallace of the Feazanthian Navy shall join this gathering of naval officers. He shall be escorted by one guard, and shall arrive by Harrier.

[OOC]
Sorry for the delay.


The helicopter, a KA-64 modified for transportation purposes, has landed on the helicopter deck on the [i]Behemoth and has disgorged General Axx, and his two bodyguards, Jim and Tony. After making sure they helicopter was moved to the hangar of the ship, they were led to the conference room, where they awaited the beginning of the meeting.

The Phoenixius helicopter flew around the DN Behemoth a few times to ensure it was safe. Then the helicopter put down on the landing deck. Out stepped Admiral Havola, and 1 bodyguard. They then walked towards the reception committe, who showed them to the meeting room.

Swirrhirr, you are welcome to join. However, your pilot cannot come. He will be provided lodging near the airfield at Xendi Shipyard.

However, at the request of the National Security Agency, weapons will NOT be allowed to be brought by guests. Tasers can be brought, but guns will be confiscated and held until the conference is over.

Also, the DN Behemoth is not at port. It is at a remote location in the sea surounded by a small battlegroup. You will be flown in by helo.

Jefferson dropped to the ground the second the helicopter landed, glad to be on terra firma. The thought of a thousand feet of nothing but air between him and a surprisingly hard ground was always unsettling, but he put up with it as a job hazard.

He was, after all, being paid very well for it.

A briefcase in hand, he was followed out by ayoung female warrant officer, clutching a similar briefcase in her hand and tidying up a very tight bun that kept her hair together underneath her beret. Last out was a manin marine fatigues and a majr general's stripes along his shoulders, looking around with ever-gazing but beady eyes over the airfield they had just landed. Sitting opposite them was another helicopter, with a man in a Doujin Navy uniform, saluting them all as they approached.

Jefferson returned it in customary manner, and stepped aboard with contained dread onto the new helicopter, followed by his companions. Within minutes of touchdown, they were in the air again, being carried to the Behemoth.

OOC: The female was his aide Warrant Officer Julia Matthews, and Major General Grame Thompson is the marine. No weapons were carried.

The Harrier angled its jets and landed vertically on the DN Behemoth. Admiral Wallace climbed from the gunner's seat, and his pilot followed. He removed his flight jacket to reveal a dress uniform adorned with numerous medals.

"Let's get this over with eh?"

Premier Boris Chlevenkov of the Armed Republic of Soviet Bloc wishes to ask the permission to send an ARSB delegation to this 'convention' due to Doujin's purchase of the naval version of the SAH-17, the SAH-17N and the production rights to the craft (Although we are not sure whether it has anything to do but we are curious). The delegation would consist of Fleet Admiral Alexi Tamarov, Under-Secretary of the Navy Sofia Ytivsky, and Captain Petr Hertsgaard, a naval aviator. They would most likely fly to your vessel onboard a HVN-03 naval transport or a Doujin-provided craft, of which we would not object to either.

Premier Boris Chlevenkov of the Armed Republic of Soviet Bloc wishes to ask the permission to send an ARSB delegation to this 'convention' due to Doujin's purchase of the naval version of the SAH-17, the SAH-17N and the production rights to the craft (Although we are not sure whether it has anything to do but we are curious). The delegation would consist of Fleet Admiral Alexi Tamarov, Under-Secretary of the Navy Sofia Ytivsky, and Captain Petr Hertsgaard, a naval aviator. They would most likely fly to your vessel onboard a HVN-03 naval transport or a Doujin-provided craft, of which we would not object to either.

Justin-something...I think he denied it because you're a newer member and with a lack of navy and previous record.

Fair warning, my RP is probably worse than Pwnica's.

IC:

Zoogiedom's naval development is still in its infancy, but it is an area in which its military products is likely to expand to next. We are very interested in this conference, and also to celebrate our recent consolidated diplomatic ties with Doujin, would like to attend this conference.

Our representative will be Admiral Gately, current head of the Navy.

OOC2 - Penguisiana...what last time?

Justin-something...I think he denied it because you're a newer member and with a lack of navy and previous record.

Fair warning, my RP is probably worse than Pwnica's.

IC:

Zoogiedom's naval development is still in its infancy, but it is an area in which its military products is likely to expand to next. We are very interested in this conference, and also to celebrate our recent consolidated diplomatic ties with Doujin, would like to attend this conference.

Our representative will be Admiral Gately, current head of the Navy.

OOC2 - Penguisiana...what last time?

I don't remember a last time with Penguisiana, so *shrug*.

Zoogie is more than welcome to the conference.

[ooc: The conference will officially start tomorrow, so anyone who wants to come need to apply tonight and such. Also, well done Freethinkers :)]

Soviet Bloc, you are welcome to join.

Anyone who applies understand that they must sign a NDA before entering the conference, or they will not be allowed.

*tag* for later.

()

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Armed military escorts marched into the room where Admiral Wallace and his pilot were residing during their stay.

"You have been ordered to leave, Admiral Wallace. Please follow us and we will escort you off the ship. Your plane has been confiscated and will be returned as soon as you are out of Doujin territory. If you choose to resist you will be confined and prosecuted."

With that, Admiral Wallace and his pilot were escorted to a helocopter and flown to an unknown location, where they would be flown via military transport plane into Feazanthia.

OOC: Poor Wallace


IC: Jefferson stepped down onto the flight deck of the Behemouth, feeling slightly at home (he had been an XO posted on the FNS Leviathan, the first ship of the class). A slight rush of familiarity swept over him, and he smiled.

He walked along the deck, followed by his entourage and a few nervous looking junior Doujin Navy officers, who were busily informing him of procedure and the like.

A form, an NDA, was passed to Jefferson by one of the officers as he entered the armoured superstructure, to the rear of the aft main turret. Standard procedure, if somewhat remeniscent of commercial attitudes. Guess it had to be done though.

He passed the clipboard back to the officer who had passed it him, who saluted and departed as they traversed the magazine for the rear 22" guns. Ten-ton shells the size of small cars occupied the space all around him, some in rotary storage, some in the linkless feeds of the autoloading mechanisms. All looked very lethal.

They emerged into the heart of the ship, all plate steel, small hatchways designed for people younger and thinner than Jefferson, and a wonderfully patronising intercom system that continuously buzzed in such gems as "Remember, carelessness can cause serious injuries!".

They were shown to quarters, a standard flag staff set of small but functional and clean cabins. Project papers and Doujin Corp advertisements littered the desk, but the bed was soft and the internet connection actually worked. Jefferson put down his small bag, and yawned.


Edit: Typos and such.

Marching down the hall, the boots of the Doujin Military escorts clicked on the floor. The armed escorts were heading the the mess hall, where Admiral Hayola and his bodyguard were eating.

"Admiral Hayola. You and your bodyguard are to come with us. You have been ordered to leave. Your aircraft has been confiscated and will be returned as soon as you are out of Doujin. Any attempt to resist and you will be placed under arrest and prosecuted."

3 military escorts grabbed the bodyguard and cuffed him with military "cuffs". One grabbed the Admiral by the arm and escorted him to the helicopter where he would be flown to the same discreet location where Admiral Wallace was sent to, and then transported back to Phoenixius.

[ooc: There are good reasons for them being kicked out, mainly I didn't trust them with knowledge of semi-restricted information. And as this is ssupposed ot be a tight security conference, and as it is safe to assume the aircraft brought with them is military aircraft.. it would be unwise for me to let them leave on their aircraft armed with weapons.. hence the "arrests".]

[one last bump before I go to bed so it goes to the top.. good night all]

:arrow: :!: :arrow:

Would it be possible for Wetland to attend? If so we would sent Admiral Yablinko.

President Janus Hollander
Federation of Wetland

Credonia would also like to attend this conference and request permission to do so.

Lauren .R. Smith
Secretary of State, Credonian Empire

Wetland, yuo are unable to attend.

Credonia, you are permitted to attend, but as a precautionary measure to do the high amount of tensions between Credonia and many other nations - you will be escorted by two military escorts during your stay on the DN Behemoth, if you wish that is.

Admiral Jason Tenner of the Navy Command Office will gladly attend this meeting. It would be an honor to meet with so many great leaders.
{UCSNE Foreign Relations Department}

You are more welcome to come, NE. Fly to Xendi Shipyards and you will be transported to the DN Behemoth

As soon as Credonia and New Empire gets here we will begin

The Nation Of Lutrae would like to attend this meeting to discuss the future of modern naval warfare. President Salivus will be arriving on the L.S.S. Otter submarine. The president wishes to discuss the new RLA (Recon Light Attack) submarine with other nations.

OOC:for more info on the sub, see http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=40509&start=960 (about half way down the page)

[OOC]
Zoogie: Fat chance. :P

Here's a small sample: OMG I NOOK J)) LMFAO lolpwn u ded kthxbai.

(If anyone didn't catch it, it's obviously joking -_-;;)

...okay, so it's not like that (seriously) but I'm not too creative. I'll give it a whirl, though.

Lutrae, I wan't to let you come because of what you might bring, however - I do not know you... and all nations that are coming I have had some contact with in the past, and it generally has been good contact. This puts me between a rock and a hard place..

If you were to come, you could not come from a submarine - as if a submarine approaches depth charges go down.. and trust me, we will know wether or not a submarine approaches. If you are using something similar to the "Catterpilar" drives, there will be a space of water where there is no sound.. and that too is detectable.

[OOC] Doujin, about what NS-forum time are you going to start this?
:)

it will start as soon as everyone gets onboard, we are waiting on credonia and new empire. time doesn't really matter.. its not going to be done in an hour :p

Alrighty.

We understand your concern, so the President will be departing from the submarine on a UH-60 Blackhawk 5 miles from the Behemoth and arrive on that. He will be bringing one bodygaurd, who is also the president's security advisor. The submarine will also be surfaced for the entire conference and would gladly keep hourly radio contact with the Behemoth to verify coordinates.

[OOC]
A helicopter on a submarine?
O_O

OOC: It is possible. I am in the US Navy so I should know.

"Admiral, we detected a submarine using a "Caterpillar" drive. 15 miles northwest."

"Lutrae. Order the DN Proxima out ot that location and to use it's hull to transmit morse code to the vessel. Should be detected on sonar, if not heard. Tell him to disembark or he will be sunk."

"Aye, Admiral."

From the light from the only porthole in the room, Jefferson read the notes in front of him. Mostly technical jargon not even he could understand, he took to memorising the brief summaries and hoping that his cohorts understood was written down.

He took off his glasses and rubbed his eyes. The portable TV he had stored in his luggage was not sitting on the small desk opposite him, crackling away as it struggled to pick up some foreign soap opera. The words were uninteligible, but the accoustically dead hull of the Behemouth (a feature *he* had suggested to help avoid sonar detection) made the room silent otherwise. Jefferson couldnt stand total silence.

He sighed, replaced his glasses, and continued reading...

As the the blackhawk cut through the air 40 feet above the water, Lutrae's president Lucundus Salvius was tempted to take over the controls from the pilot and do a little joy riding himself. Before vaulting himself into a political career, he had been a commanche pilot with the NRO (Naval Recon Operations) section, but Sage wouldn't like that one bit.

"Sir, we're approaching the DN Behemoth, ETA 2 minutes." said the pilot while warily watching the President's itchy fingers, he knew what the man wanted

"alright, good, keep me informed" the President said while turning around in his seat to face his security advisor Sage Nabanaki.

Sage had been born and raised in Kyoto, Japan. She was an expert in traditional martial arts, and modern weaponry. She had saved the President numerous times, and had served him even while he was a senator in the Lutraen Congress. She was currently checking her new MP-7 PDW, making sure every part was perfectly in place.

"I really wish you would have brought the Berretta instead of that thing, it's so...threatening"

Sage looked up at the President like he had stabbed her straight into the heart, "Sir, you know that all that concerns me is your security" she said with a sly wink

The President sighed and turned back around to face the DN Behemothm fast approaching, he let out a low slow whistle, "Damn, that's a big ship"

The pilot smiled and hoped in his mind that he never has to face a ship like that, "Sir, we're landing"

"Alright boys and girls, lets get this show on the road."

OOC:didn't see that last post doujin, Otter cut out at 15 miles.

Despite me sending a subtle message that you weren't going to permitted here.. I'll do it another way



As the helicopter landed, Lutrae's President Salvius and his security guard jumped out. The security guard, carrying a MP-7 PDW assault weapon, was immediatly taken into custody by several military escorts.

"President Salvius, your bodyguard is being detained for bringing weapons aboard the DN [i]Behemoth. She will be flown to a Doujin military base, where she will be deported back to Lutrae. Doujin is commited when it says "high security" and when we say "no weapons allowed" we mean, no weapons allowed."

General Axx and his bodyguards sat in their quarters aboard the Behemoth, eating some of the fine Doujin food aboard the ship.

"This is great," said Axx. "What do you guys think?"

"A little too spicy for my tastes, but overall pretty good." said Jim, smiling.

"Yep. Love it." said Tony.

"I'll make sure to ask the chef for the recipe." said Axx, grinning.

[OOC] Just something to pass the time a bit ;)

OOC:whoops, didn't see the notice of No weapons allowed, sorry bout that, my bad.

IC:

The president sighed and eyed Sage with a look of "I told you so" and placed a hand on her shoulder "Sorry Sa-chan, you'll have to go along with them" He turned to the armed personal, "Give my sincerest apologies to the doujin government, my advisor can be a bit bull headed sometimes."

Matthews took the first oppurtunity she could to shower. Ten hours of travelling in cramped, boiling helicopter cabins didnt do her any favours, and she was glad to be able to finally relax.

Stepping out of the small stall, she quickly dried herself off and slipped into a fresh uniform. Her hair, still in a towel, flopped about in the air and she walked around the cabin sorting out notes and files and making sure her boss had all relevant information on hand for the conference.

Thompson surprised her by banging quite spectacularly on the door, breaking the silence with the impact of a small bomb. Thompson was about as subtle and graceful as American foreign policy. Matthews shook her head and answered the door.

Five minutes later, all three Freethinker servicemen were in the officer's mess, chomping down something that passed for cuisine in these here parts. It tasted alright, Matthews thought, even if it was somewhat...distinctive in flavour.

Small talk prevailed at the dinner table. Questions about work, family, and future plans entertained their ears as they ate. Time passed by quickly.

OOC: Filler...lol, just a character introduction as well. :P

Lord Jandern looked at the Telegram he had received, it was from an agent, or more like an ambassodorial figure, as far as he was concerned. The message had information about Doujin, and a new ship that was being disscussed.
" Sir, shall i send Doujin a message saying that you would be honoured if you where let into this, errr, meating? " Said the captain

"er, yes, i think i might be interested, ask them wether they will allow a representitive of the War department to go to this convention, send that fellow whos quite young, whats his name? " Said lord Jandern

" Very well sir, i take it you mean commodore willman "

" Yes, thats the one, i hope they accept, had that spot of bother with Ilaham not to long ago... "
OOC: i havent read all the posts yet, anything important?

****Telegram to WiH****
WiH, you are welcome to join in on this meeting. However, we must ask that it be a representative of your nations Navy, and preferablly someone in charge.

OOC _ Pwnica, fine, we're even then.

Doujin, I assume I'm arriving on the DN Behemoth?

IC -

An improved, weaponless helicopter of the SH-60 class sped across the sea towards the DN Behemoth. Aside from its crew, admiral Gately and his advisor Eric Sanchez were on the aircraft, en route to a naval conference.

"DN Behemoth, Zoogiedom delegate checking in, requesting permission to land."

you go to Xendi Shipyards first, then I transfer you to the behemoth

OOC:
I haven't really had much contact with you other to say "make your own steel" but this does sound interesting and Crookfur is fairly navy centric (even though i don't export my combat vessels as they use too much propriety stuff and thus only worth buying if you are willing to have Crookfur supply everything the one exceptions being the Lady Victoria and Silent knife classes that were special comissions).

anyway...

IC:

The Crookfur Naval Command Board are very interested in this conference and would like to enquire about the possibility of Crookfur attendance. If such should be possible a delagation headed by Admiral Catherine Harrington (i need more original names) the head of our naval technology and developement division (the 1st Sea lord is a bit tied up in the Kubadi crissis at the moment, it only involves a tiny protion of our navy but is a major political issue).

OOC:
I haven't really had much contact with you other to say "make your own steel" but this does sound interesting and Crookfur is fairly navy centric (even though i don't export my combat vessels as they use too much propriety stuff and thus only worth buying if you are willing to have Crookfur supply everything the one exceptions being the Lady Victoria and Silent knife classes that were special comissions).

anyway...

IC:

The Crookfur Naval Command Board are very interested in this conference and would like to enquire about the possibility of Crookfur attendance. If such should be possible a delagation headed by Admiral Catherine Harrington (i need more original names) the head of our naval technology and developement division (the 1st Sea lord is a bit tied up in the Kubadi crissis at the moment, it only involves a tiny protion of our navy but is a major political issue).

Ok.

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The SH-60 type helicopter landed at Xendi Shipyards, and admiral Gately and his advisor Sanchez stepped out.

Ok.

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The SH-60 type helicopter landed at Xendi Shipyards, and admiral Gately and his advisor Sanchez stepped out.

OOC: So what will be discussed then?

I have got the new Doujin Battleship on the agenda, but anything else?

Hypersonic anti-ship missiles, supercavitating torpedoes, "Caterpillar" submarine drives and detection methods, and the condition of world-wide maritime development. The Navy is a powerful force, providing platforms to launch aircraft and surface bombardment.. and I hope to discuss and bring forth technologies in this conference. Also, in the end.. maybe a treaty of sorts.. putting our combined naval forces together and doing excercises to keep up-to-date in tactics. And, with some nations.. an alliance.. to put together our naval forces and "control the seas" to an extent.. being able to break up any blockade on any of our nations if ever put in that position.

Another helicopter, this one of Doujin origin, sits on the helo pad at Xendi Shipyards.

"Admiral Gately, Mr. Sanchez, please follow me."

The lieutenant escorted Admiral Gately and Mr. Sanchez to the awaiting helicopter, and got them in the chopper safely. Slapping the side of the machine, the helicopter took off headed in a northern direction towards the DN Behemoth.

Crookfur, you are more than welcome to come :)

Admiral Gately glanced out at the sea from the deck of the DN Behemoth.

"Nice place," he observed. "Where are our living quarters, please?"

He paid no attention to Sanchez, who had never been aboard a ship despite his extensive naval knowledge, and was quite seasick.

*The diplomatic HVN-03, a completely unarmed version and sporting a large portrait of the ARSB's flag across the side, roars towards the nation of Doujin, its 4 escort SAH-17As broke off as they hit the Doujin border. The HVN-03 continued its route towards the Xendi shipyards to transfer its passengers, the ARSB delegation, to a Doujin aircraft for a transfer to the DN Behemoth. Along the way, the HVN-03's crew sent the appropriate diplomatic messages to Doujin air controllers and prepared for the soft descent to the assigned helipad at the Xendi shipyards... Major Gorovsky, piloting the HVN-03 pulled back the collective and eased the HVN-03 onto the tarmac, he dropped engine throttle and let the rotors slow down to a slow twirl... He popped a switch and the hydraulically-operated door hummed as it opened. Two ARSB Spetsnaz soldiers in their Vepr combat enhancement suits stepped out... Following them were the ARSB delegation which hurried to an assigned building. The Spetsnaz stepped aboard the HVN-03 and it took off... The ARSB delegation waited for the Doujin transport to come. *

IC:

The Crookfur Naval Command board accept your most gracious invitation.

To make the fastest possible transit we would like to arrange to fly our delagation in to a conveinet air feild of your chosing.
The aircraft utilised will be a OSA (operational support airlift) version of the CNU-20 (UE's EA60 CSA).

Admiral Yamamoto, Duke of Osaka and First Sea Lord, wishes to attend this conference. If accepted, he will arrive by helo and have no bodyguards, as a sign of faith in our esteemed ally.

IC:

The three of them sat at the wardroom bar, still talking. Matthews had a cola, Thompson a Stella, Jefferson a Carlsberg. Jefferson watched some of the other delegates who were lounging around the room, some drinking, some talking, some, like Jefferson, people-watching.

In any other ship Jefferson would have felt vulnerable. But not the Behemoth. An armour belt of nearly a meter of titanium alloy, as well as several internal steel bulkheads, protected him and everyone else from the outside world.

The Behemoth had been built in Navarre, or at least its main hull had. It was mated onto its auxiallary hulls at Xendi after being dragged a thousand miles across the ocean. Almost invincible, the Leviathan class was by far the most powerful surface combatant afloat. Its power and majesty would not be rivalled by anything until the launch of the Doujin.

Jefferson wondered what some of these countries would do for either of these ships...he hoped nothing too drastic.

He took another swig, and feigned interest as he listened to Matthews talk about cost-scheduling.

It was a rainy and windy day at Poseidon Prime, the largest floating city in New Empire. Not stormy, but not the nicest day for the city either. Jason Tenner was of average height, and his gray hair was beginning to slowly win over his regulation cut hair. He chose not to wear his Class As, rather he chose the more conservative blue-gray standard duty uniform, with only shoulder and collar emblems hinting at his rank and battle experience. A field cap with the words NESS New Empire CVN-83 was on his head, the last vessel he had served on, and the largest. He picked up the Tablet PC and strode out of the building towards the CV-509 "Messenger" High Speed VTOL, which could reach Mach 2 at high altitudes. He sat in the aircraft as the engines spooled up, and the gray craft rose from it's platform on one of the outer "islands" of the Poseidon Prime Naval sector. The craft switched to standard flight as it rose, and engaged the PDE engines to allow Mach 2 flight towards Xendi. As it neared, it also descended towards the landing area, radioing to the Doujin commanders that they had arrived, and were prepared for transport. As the Admiral exited, another tag along, a female Major from an R&D wing emerged, also with a Tablet PC.

OOC:What are the rules regarding communication outside of the Behemoth? I assume light communications with satallite phones is alright.

IC:

Salvius, or Sal as he is known to his friends, was settling into his room when his cell phone rang. He jumped slightly at the shrill tone of his new phone, which he hadn't choosen a ringer for. He was a bit suprised that he was getting a signal through the titanium hull, a metal not known for conducting radio waves very well, but then he remembered the phone he was given before the trip was a newer satallite based phone, one that would work while submerged in the L.S.S. Otter.

He reached into his leather trench coat pocket and pulled out a large sized phone, it looked more like a home cordless phone than a cell phone, and punched the answer key.

"Hello?" He asked with a cheery voice.

The man on the other end was Captain Max Cameron. Originally born in Scotland but he grew up in the south side of Chicago. He was an old friend of Salvius', such so that when he was personally appointed as the Captain of Lutrae's newest flagship, the L.S.S. Otter, by the President more than a few people in the Navy shuffled their feet in objection. "Sir, what's this about Sage getting pulled of the ship with a weapon i'm hearing, i got a call from her about 15 minutes ago"

Salvius sighed, he told his advisor she didn't need a gun to protect him, and that the Doujin government had expressed that they did NOT want personel with weapons onboard. "Just Sage being herself i guess, it's a moot point now. So how's everything aboard my baby?"

Max chuckled at the other end, the sub had been the president's brainchild since the beggining, and no amount of fillibuster by the other parties could slow it down. "She's doing just fine sir, we've kept on the surface ever since you left, and with the DN Proxima just off our bow we decided to break out the lawn chairs on the sonar bill and crank up some music, bagpipes of course." he said.

Salvius knew the man wasn't joking, he could hear the oddly calming tones of "Danny Boy" through the phone, though he was sure that it was a tad bit louder on the other end, "Alright Max, relax for the rest of the time, but we might want to put on a show for the rest of the people at the conference at some time, so don't make too much of a mess,"

"Aye aye sir, by the way, simmons, the new tech guy onboard, says that he's got a satallite uplink ready for some presentation material, that is of course if Doujin will allow you to use your satallite laptop connection," max said with a bored tone, he wasn't one much for technology.

"Thanks, i'll ask them that when i get the chance, over and out."

Aboard the DN Proxima

"Captain.. I'm getting some strange readings from the Lutraen vessel.. if I didn't know any better I would say that it was music... switching to listening devices.. What the.. there playing I think Bagpipes, sir."

"Bagpipes? Know what song?"

"I believe the song is "Danny Boy" or something like that, sir."

"Interesting, try and contact em. Ask em why they are playing the bagpipes.. and ask them why Danny Boy.. see what they say."

The Captain chuckled. He loved playing games with "allies" or friendly vessels.. telling them what they are doing when he shouldn't know. The systems equiped out at that Xendi Shipyard sure did do their job well...

OOC-*pokes* pssst.... Doujin? I kinda arrived at Xendi. Wanna acknowledge my existence?

Credonian Secretary of State Lauren Smith sits confortably in her VIP transport helicopter as it approaches the DN Behemoth, escorted by 2 armed SH-60 helicopters (added security).

The pilot radios in "This Is Credonia Alpha requesting permission to land. We have one dignitatry on board, Credonian Secretary of State Lauren .R. Smith representing Credonian Emperor Alexander Nicolas Sutton. Once again, we request permission to land. All armed escorts are now turning back"

Sorry New Empire, I typed something up but I guess it didn't get posted. Stupid boards. This is gonna be shitty now..



The New Empire delegates were escorted to another chopper and they took off heading for the DN [i]Behemoth

[OOC: I am going to assme everyone is here.. by various means of transportation, and of course Scandavian States you are more than welcome to come. *zap* your delegate / delegates are here already, by magic! No, really though it is my fault I didn't recognize some people early and I would like to get started. So, from this point we are starting the "conference" and everyone is onboard the DN Behemoth]

Nations in Attendance:
Soviet Bloc
Crookfur
Scandavian States
The Freethinkers
New Empire
Lutrae
Credonia
Pwnica
War_in_heaven
The Zoogie People

Two other nations wanted to, and I approved.. but they never replied so they are not in attendance. (Those nations are Swirrhirr and Penguisiana or something like that)

[IC]
"Ensign, send out the order to round of the delegates and send them to the make-shift conference room. Quickly."

"Yes, sir."

With haste, the Ensign sent the order out for military escorts to round up the delegates.

30 minutes later, delegates from many 10 nations were together in the "Conference Room" exchanging small talk, and wondering what exactly the schedule will be.

Admiral Miller walks in the room straight to a podium and addresses the audience:
"Good Afternoon, Ladies and Gentlemen. Welcome aboard the DN Behemoth. I would like to thank you all for coming here on such a short notice, but there are many things to be discussed and plans to be made."

Admiral Miller smiled to the crowd.

"Admiral Gately, we know you received a transmission from your government. Most likely questioning the "Super Battleship" DN Doujin. Which, I am not surprised at all if any of you haven't heard the rumors spreading around the globe about a super battleship being produced by Doujinshi Corporation for the Doujin Navy.

About an hour ago, I went on T.V. and denied the existence of a this battleship. However, that was not the whole truth. The truth is a battleship of such stature is in the construction process. The DN Doujin will be the Flagship of the Doujin Navy, and the biggest battleship in the world. You are all welcome to take a tour of it as soon as it is completed, it will not be released to the public world at large until months after it's completion, however. That is why we asked the signing of a Non-Disclosure agreement. Everything said in this room.. stays in this room, so to speak.

I know you need to tell things to your superiors, and that is expected. But we will hold each one of your nations governments to your honour that you will not let this leak out.

The Doujin Class is a one of its kind ship. It has two full length flight decks, and is capable of carrying 160 aircraft. She has 20 30" guns, by far the largest guns so far put on a naval vessel, and 12 8" guns. She is the largest military vessel to be put to sea as far as displacement goes, weighing over 1.1 million tons empty, and 1.3 fully loaded.

Throughout this conference, we will be discussing the Doujin Class, and many other things. Hypersonic Anti-Ship missiles, Supercavitating Torpedoes, "Caterpillar Drives" and detection methods for those drives, and the condition of world-wide maritime development.

You see, the Navy is a powerful force. The Navy provides platforms to launch aircraft and surface bombardment, ballistic missile launch platforms, and many other necessary things.. like providing transportation for invading forces. In the end, I hope we all reach some sort of treaty in regards of maritime developments, to be figured out by those bureaucratic bureaucrats.."

At the bureaucratic bureaucrat comment the military officials started chuckling.

".. that enables us all to work together and train together."

might I note that this is all seceret IC, no one knows abou the doujin class outside of this conference

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bed time bump, if you need to contact me my outside contact info is listed

here -> http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=131871&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=

at the bottom of the first post

There were four men sitting at the table delegated to them by their Doujini hosts. Together, they were the most senior brass of the Imperial Navy, that in and of itself was a massive vote of confidence by the Emperor and the entire Navy. A man of Japanese ethnicity, about 5'9" and 150 pounds, wearing the white and gold uniform of the navy, raised his hand and stood up. "I am Admiral Kano Yamamoto, First Sea Lord of His Imperial Majesty's Navy. With the compliments of the Emperor and the Imperial Navy, Fourth Sea Lord Edward Janacek, who is the head of the navy's Buereau of Weapons, would like to make a presentation."

Admiral Yamamoto sat down and another man that was rather tall and had a fair complexion stood up, "Good day to you all. The point of this presentation is to show how the Imperial Navy implements two technologies that Admiral Miller mentioned specifically, which are hypersonic ASMs and Catepillar drives. The Imperial Armed Forces, and the navy in particular, operate several missile systems that are based off of the Fasthawk cruise missile. Of particular interest to this conference would be the Seahawk ASM variant, which is capable of travelling at a top speed of Mach 5 barely two meters over the ocean surface for the better part of four hundred miles. Like all of our Fasthawk variants, the Seahawk is a passive launched missile that uses ship radar for vectoring to the target and then switches over to its own on-board millimeter band radar for terminal guidance.

Also of interest is the Cat drives we use on our submarines, both SSN and SSBN. They are of course the water jet drives and not the plasma drives popularized by the Clancy novel, which as far as BuWeaps can tell, is impossible to construct with current technology. They are far more effective at hiding submarines but not so effective as to leave an accoustic black hole, which as I'm sure Admiral Miller knows, is a tell all its own. Any questions on either system?"


EDIT: If anyone wants to know what the navy uniforms look like, go here: http://www.delta.edu/pwmullet/RMNUNI3C.html
The officer's uniform is what the four Admirals are wearing, but substitute the black for white.

IC:

In front of Jefferson lay a folder containing his conference brief. It sat unopened for the moment. He listened without emotion to the Admiral go on about the vessel he watched being constructed every day from his office across Navarre Harbour. They had erected a massive temporary awning now, to "protect from unwitting eyes". He grinned.

The ship was pumping around $80 billion, or 220 billion mintels, into the Navarrian economy alone. A hundred thousand workers everyday walked up main street heading for the yard gates, most of them dissappearing into "Yard no. 2".

Thompson tappe dhis fingers on his documents, basically diagrams on how to launch amphibious assaults. Matthews spent the time plugging in and typing notes on her notebook.

All three clapped politely when the admiral finished.

((OOC-sorry for the eavesdropping, mate, but the Feazanthian navy already knows about that there Doujin class, so I don't see why you kicked us out. Frankly, Admiral Wallace is a bigger threat to you now that you insulted him. We have combat records of our little 'exercise', and if you'll remember, you used one of those babies during the exercise (and it beat the crap out of my Hellfire Heavy Cruiser). Just a friendly reminder.))

The Pacific Northwesteria Minister of the Armed Forces appologizes for finding this late, and requests permission to come aboard. He will require no bodyguards, as he is highly trained himself in the martial arts, and fully trusts the Doujin Navy to protect from anything besides hand-to-hand. Awaiting response.

OOC: If I don't respond in, like, a while, then drop me a TG

Just a friendly reminder, the class that beat the hell out of your hellfire cruiser is a Thunder Child Class, for a short period it was named the Doujin Class but we renamed her - hence we left the excercise to go to the re-christening ceremony, so no.. you don't know about it

Just a friendly reminder, the class that beat the hell out of your hellfire cruiser is a Thunder Child Class, for a short period it was named the Doujin Class but we renamed her - hence we left the excercise to go to the re-christening ceremony, so no.. you don't know about it

OOC: I know I haven't been given permission to come aboard (yet), so please excuse this, but does this mean that the 6 Doujin Class that I bought on 3/15 aren't real?

Just a friendly reminder, the class that beat the hell out of your hellfire cruiser is a Thunder Child Class, for a short period it was named the Doujin Class but we renamed her - hence we left the excercise to go to the re-christening ceremony, so no.. you don't know about it

OOC: I know I haven't been given permission to come aboard (yet), so please excuse this, but does this mean that the 6 Doujin Class that I bought on 3/15 aren't real?

Just a friendly reminder, the class that beat the hell out of your hellfire cruiser is a Thunder Child Class, for a short period it was named the Doujin Class but we renamed her - hence we left the excercise to go to the re-christening ceremony, so no.. you don't know about it

OOC: I know I haven't been given permission to come aboard (yet), so please excuse this, but does this mean that the 6 Doujin Class that I bought on 3/15 aren't real?

They were renamed, to the Thunder Child Class.

and yes you can come aboard PN

The Pacific Northwesteria Minister of the Armed Forces shows that he is hard core by paradropping down onto the deck of the Doujin flagship. Luckily, the CIWS were inactive. He has been escorted into the conference room, and is apprised of previous activities.

General Axx sat in the conference room, flanked by his bodyguards. He was listening intently, and when the admiral was finished, raised his hand to ask a question.

"This seems like a very powerful and advanced ship," said Axx. "But at what speed will it be able to move?"

[OOC]
Sorry if this was mentioned but I didn't see it.

The Doujin is driven by very large water jets as opposed to normal screw propellers, which does help improve speed somewhat as well as reducing water disturbance. The top-out speed of the Doujin is 32 knots. She will also be given assistance by two other vessels to help her reach and maintain that speed.

President Salvius listened with admiration as the Doujin representatives made their presentation on the new Doujin class ship, especially the part about it using water jets instead of traditional screws for propulsion. He silently slipped a palm sized LCD projector out of his pocket and connected it to the Apple laptop he had brought to the conference room. making sure no one was in the way of the projector, he turned it on and stood up.

"First before i say anything, i'd like to thank to Doujin Government for allowing my nation to be represented in this conference, i realized that we are an extreamly small nation compared to most of yours, and still a budding military precense. However, I would like to show you something that will interest you all." With this he pressed a button on the keyboard of his laptop and an image appeared on the wall in front of everyone.http://filehost.mrbiiggy.com/crap/Pod-diagram2.jpg

"This, ladies and gentlemen, is a crude representation of the highly-classified 'NMWP' engine, or 'Non-mechanical water propulsion' drive. It utilizes no moving parts to propel water through it and out of the drive whatsoever. Some of you might have seen commercials advertising "Ionic fans" which use positivly and negativly charged panels to draw and eject air out of the back, this drive runs on almost the exact same princible, with only some slight modifications. The advantage of this is that unlike 'catepiller' drives used in some submersibles, this drive is not completely silent, but produces enough backwash to emulate normal sea conditions." Salvius watched intently as eyes fixed upon the steel plate wall illuminated by the sketch. He let his words sink in their minds for a bit, and began again.

"Of course, this presentation would be for nothing if i didn't have something to show you that's tangible. For that I present to you, my baby, the L.S.S. Otter..."

http://www.royal-navy.mod.uk/static/pages/data/[(1524)-25-09-2001]sonar.jpg

"This is a picture of the Sonar array bow, or as the navy boys have named it, the sonar bill.

http://www.royal-navy.mod.uk/static/pages/data/%5B(1630)-27-09-2001%5DFuture%20ship.jpg

"and that is a computer representation of the whole ship, its a bit odd looking as you can see, but very fast and very quiet. I'd like to finish with a quick summary of the otter.

Length: 636ft
Width: (at widest, which would be the sonar bill) 118ft
Weight: **Classified**
Armaments: 6 forward torpedo tubes, 2 aft tubes, 12 small decoy deployment tubes,
Crew: 500, maximum of 700, minimum regular operating crew of 50
Cargo: 1 bay for modified UH-60 Blackhawk or RAH-66 Comanchee, room for 200 tons of cargo
Hull structure: 2 layered construction, inner layer of 1 inch thick titanium-alloy, then a vacuum hull structure composed of a honeycomb metal-composite, and finally a half inch of titanium coated with an anti-glare RAM (Radar Absorbing Material) polymer.
Propulsion: Two Magneto-Hydrodynamic independently rotating pods situated at the rear of the sub allowing maximum agility and precision navigation. 8 compressed air jets situated along the hull allow for emergency maneuvers,
Power: One Seashell class Nuclear reactor provides indefinite power
Deployment time: Depending on what type of crew the boat is running on, the Otter class submarines can be deployed for any time ranging from 4 months too 2 years
The cool stuff: A full-sized gym, including martial arts Dojo, boxing ring, and exercise machines. Each officer room includes a built in Apple G5 for computer work and communication, along with a Harmon-Kardon sound system and complimentary iTunes account. (OOC: ok, so sue me, I’m a huge Mac fan : P)

Tenner listened intently as the others spoke. The Doujin Navy battleships had intrigued him most. The UCSNE had not used a battleship in combat in decades, although four did exist. They were tiny compared to many others, but used a variety of long range railgun, as well as 140mm Metalstorm guns and a variety of other weapons. But never before had he ever heard of a battleship so large and powerful. It had guns at least 10 inches larger than many of the so called 'superbattleships' that many others used. As the Lutrae delegate finished, Brenner rose.
"We'd like to thank Doujin for letting us present, and everyone else for your presentations. Now, on to our little toys.
As many of you may know from recent news or past involvement, New Empire has begun focusing it's efforts on what happens under the waves. As we began to establish our floating cities and underwater mines, a need for a new, mobile weapon was found. Standard submarines were too slow, expensive, and large for defensive operations. We began a project on a new weapon. A company, Aqua Dynamics, answered with this."
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"The concept of Supercavitation was fairly well known in our navy, we had made our 2nd generation of supercavitating torpedo at the time. But this was a big step upward. That's the S-16 Viper you're looking at. A fact sheet is being handed out now for those interested."
SPECIFICATIONS
Fuselage: 53 ft 3 in
Powerplant: Two Aqua Dynamics HT 1000 rocket engines each rated at 52 780 lb st.
Weights: Empty 60 000 lb Max supercav weight 102 000 lb
Speed: At shallow depth 1544 mph (2485 km/h) deep depth 1100 mph (1770 km/h)
Range: Maximum range on internal fuel 2600 miles.
Armarment:20mm Supercavitating cannon, about 42,00 lbs of armarment
Depth: Rated to 19 000 feet Below Sea level
Systems-Fly-by-Wire with 5 backup computers, LIDAR/LADAR, Sonar, EMS, Wetball, AntiVibro Gel, SAM (Sound Absorbent Materials).
"As you can see, this little sucker is anything but conventional. With the Viper, we realized we had a weapon that could destroy even the most advanced subs one on one, even without the advantage of surprise. The thing that limited the Viper and many other Subfighter designs was range. We needed a way to convert it into an offensive weapon or a carrier group defender. A new class of Carrier, designed to be submersible was put into service. It could service both air and sea craft. But what I'm about to show you is the next generation of subfighters and carriers."
Another round of papers was passed around, this time with two vessel's rough stats and pictures on them.
F/SA-15 Hurricane*
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SPECIFICATIONS
Fuselage: 58 ft 3 in
Powerplant: Two ISC M1-A hydrogen burning rocket engines
Weights: Empty 70 000 lb Max aerial weight 103 000 lb Max supercav weight 105 000 lb
Speed: High Altitude Mach 4, Sea Level Mach 3 At shallow depth 1544 mph (2485 km/h) deep depth 1100 mph (1770 km/h)
Range: Maximum range on internal fuel 2600 miles.
Depth: Rated to 18 000 feet.
Armarment:20mm Supercavitating cannon, about 33,000 lbs of weapons, equipment, fuel.
Depth: Rated to 18 000 feet.
Systems-Fly-by-Wire with 5 backup computers, LIDAR/LADAR, Sonar, EMS, Radar, Athena and Athena-N, Wetball, AntiVibro Gel, SAM.
Notes-Upgrade to S/A-15 Hurricane, the craft is now capable of atmospheric flight like the Storm Rider.
Cost-$85 Million

F/S-39 Storm Rider*
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SPECIFICATIONS
Fuselage: 63 ft 7 in
Powerplant: Two ISC M1 hydrogen burning rocket engines
Weights: Empty 76 000. Air. Max aerial weight 120 000 lb. Sea.Max supercav weight 126 000 lb.
Speed: Air. High Altitude Mach 4.5, Sea Level Mach 3.2 Sea: At shallow depth 3400 mph (5440 km/h) deep depth classified.
Range: Maximum range on internal fuel 3200 miles.
Armarment:20mm Supercavitating cannon, about 44,000 lbs of weapons, equipment, fuel.
Depth: Rated to 18 000 feet.
Systems-Fly-by-Wire with 5 backup computers, LIDAR/LADAR, Sonar, EMS, Radar, Athena and Athena-N, Wetball, AntiVibro Gel, SAM.
Notes-First UCSNE Air Sea fighter.
Cost-$90 Million
"You read right, Air/Sea fighters. Although they must slow significantly to enter and re enter, the value of these weapons is quite high among our Naval aviators. It's a high privelege to wear the wings and dolphin. And as our technology and experience beneath the seas has grown, so have the ships utilizing them. I'm sorry I can't say more, but I do have this picture."
OOC-Sorry, click here (http://deepangel.com/Wallpaper9.jpg)
"That's the Admiral Mickolai Angelus, CVSN-88, recently put back into construction and service after the design plan was scrapped. That's about all I have to say. If you're wondering, the S-16 is on export, and if you have any questions, I'll take them now. Thanks for your time."

"Gentlemen", Jefferson finally spoke..."lets remember this is a naval warfare conference, not a marketplace, yes these are nice weapons, but we have to remember what we are here for. Now, does anyone have anything else to add?"

He smiled. No one answered.

"No? Good, lets start talking about naval warfare, thank you."

"Now, as a starting point, do we still feel that battleships are wothwhile combatants, and how do we react to the massive increase in the number of battleship combatants within particular nation state nations?"

OOC : Hm...I have no current naval projects to speak of, nothing innovative anyways...a submarine very similar to the Virginia, and a carrier...so I think I'm just going to listen here.

Admiral Gately noted that the Doujin-class did in fact exist, something he intended to report back to his superiors...but the secret had to be well kept.

Doujin's naval battleships were most intriguing, indeed. New Empire and Lutrae's presentations also intrigued him, especially the air-sea fighters...although he doubted whether or not his nation delved that deeply post-modern.

He remained seated and patiently listened to the technology showcase.

OOC again:


A man of Chinese ethnicity, about 5'9" and 150 pounds, wearing the white and gold uniform of the navy, raised his hand and stood up. "I am Admiral Kano Yamamoto, First Sea Lord of His Imperial Majesty's Navy.


Er...with a name like Yamamoto, don't you mean Japanese?

"I'm sorry if I came across as a salesman... The prices were merely to put the cost in perspective. Our answer to the battleship has always been to take advantage of their size. Our Metalstorm 140mms and 155mms can shower an entire square mile with HEAA rounds if we were inclined, enough to destroy most modern battleships. However, with vessels becoming so large, we've found that our subfighters are the most effective ways for use to attack such powerful vessels. Most torpedo lack the speed or manuverability to catch an attack run, and it's much easier to send a squadron than to try and sneak a full sub in."

OOC : Hm...I have no current naval projects to speak of, nothing innovative anyways...a submarine very similar to the Virginia, and a carrier...so I think I'm just going to listen here.

Admiral Gately noted that the Doujin-class did in fact exist, something he intended to report back to his superiors...but the secret had to be well kept.

Doujin's naval battleships were most intriguing, indeed. New Empire and Lutrae's presentations also intrigued him, especially the air-sea fighters...although he doubted whether or not his nation delved that deeply post-modern.

He remained seated and patiently listened to the technology showcase.

OOC again:


A man of Chinese ethnicity, about 5'9" and 150 pounds, wearing the white and gold uniform of the navy, raised his hand and stood up. "I am Admiral Kano Yamamoto, First Sea Lord of His Imperial Majesty's Navy.


Er...with a name like Yamamoto, don't you mean Japanese?

I agree fully. Yamamoto (don't remember 1st name) was the name of the Japanese admiral who organized the attack on Pearl Harbor. Just to his credit, it wasn't his idea. And yes, he was the one who timed exactly the turning point in the war at 6 months... the battle of midway.

Let us discuss military tactics, formations and alliances, my friends. I would be happy to share some of my tentative naval strategies, in return for some input. Even a mock battle, where nothing is really destroyed, may highly benefit all present, and we can even "imagine" the new Doujin class as well, to see how it performs. With that, the Minister of the Armed Forces of Pacific Northwesteria yielded the floor, and looked expectantly out at the others present.

OOC : Hm...I have no current naval projects to speak of, nothing innovative anyways...a submarine very similar to the Virginia, and a carrier...so I think I'm just going to listen here.

Admiral Gately noted that the Doujin-class did in fact exist, something he intended to report back to his superiors...but the secret had to be well kept.

Doujin's naval battleships were most intriguing, indeed. New Empire and Lutrae's presentations also intrigued him, especially the air-sea fighters...although he doubted whether or not his nation delved that deeply post-modern.

He remained seated and patiently listened to the technology showcase.

OOC again:


A man of Chinese ethnicity, about 5'9" and 150 pounds, wearing the white and gold uniform of the navy, raised his hand and stood up. "I am Admiral Kano Yamamoto, First Sea Lord of His Imperial Majesty's Navy.


Er...with a name like Yamamoto, don't you mean Japanese?

I agree fully. Yamamoto (don't remember 1st name) was the name of the Japanese admiral who organized the attack on Pearl Harbor. Just to his credit, it wasn't his idea. And yes, he was the one who timed exactly the turning point in the war at 6 months... the battle of midway.

Let us discuss military tactics, formations and alliances, my friends. I would be happy to share some of my tentative naval strategies, in return for some input. Even a mock battle, where nothing is really destroyed, may highly benefit all present, and we can even "imagine" the new Doujin class as well, to see how it performs. With that, the Minister of the Armed Forces of Pacific Northwesteria yielded the floor, and looked expectantly out at the others present.

The seas are controlled by the RoWWCT. Therefore, any conference or delegation held at sea, without my government's consent, will be terminated.

Ambassador Vytyjin,

Republic of WWCT

Addressing the question posed by the Freethinkers delegate, Admiral Gately spoke.

"It has been the position of Zoogiedom for some time that battleships are obsolete. In our naval restructuring program many years ago, all ... twelve ... of our battleships were retired. A modern fleet, in our opinion, is centered around the aircraft carrier - aircraft being much more capable, with a much greater range, with deadly attack effectiveness. Surrounding the aircraft would be destroyers, submarines, occasionally missile cruisers ... but not battleships.

"However, the Doujin battleship is unique. First in the way that it's a gigantic, gigantic, gigantic, gigantic, and did I mention - large battleship. Second, it holds more aircraft than the Nimitz-class aircraft carrier. We believe that while the battleship may be obsolete, this still poses a deadly threat. Battleships may still be very effective in defense, especially the Doujin-class."

OOC: That was me, and yeah, I meant Japanese. Thanks for pointing that out, I'll be sure to change it.

The seas are controlled by the RoWWCT. Therefore, any conference or delegation held at sea, without my government's consent, will be terminated.

Ambassador Vytyjin,

Republic of WWCT

The Minister of the Armed Forces of Pacific Northwesteria leapt up in surprise... who was this... person? who dared interrupt a meeting he or she knew nothing about? Ah... the information was being patched in to him... He responded:
"Excuse me, sir, for butting in to your speech of butting in, but I have twinkies older than your country. Please leave, or I shall be forced to remove you. If you wish to have a contest at sea, you are free to challenge all of us together in a fair fight. Otherwise, keep your arrogant mouth shut until you are over a few days old."
The Minister sat down, surrounded by applause. The RoWWCT slunk out of the room, defeated.

The seas are controlled by the RoWWCT. Therefore, any conference or delegation held at sea, without my government's consent, will be terminated.

Ambassador Vytyjin,

Republic of WWCT
OOC-Now everyone be veerrrrry quiet, and don't bother the small children playing with their boats in the bathtub.
IC-
"It has been our belief that the only use for a battleship in modern warfare is land bombardment of targets with defensive systems that are too well armored or with advanced anti-missile systems... That being said, it might be of intrest a contractor proposed an 'anti-satellite' round to our 16" railguns. A few dozen exist, but have not been tested. It's undeniable a cannon shell is cheaper than a warhead, but the factors of range and lack of payload adaptability have always been limiting."

The seas are controlled by the RoWWCT. Therefore, any conference or delegation held at sea, without my government's consent, will be terminated.

Ambassador Vytyjin,

Republic of WWCT

The Minister of the Armed Forces of Pacific Northwesteria leapt up in surprise... who was this... person? who dared interrupt a meeting he or she knew nothing about? Ah... the information was being patched in to him... He responded:
"Excuse me, sir, for butting in to your speech of butting in, but I have twinkies older than your country. Please leave, or I shall be forced to remove you. If you wish to have a contest at sea, you are free to challenge all of us together in a fair fight. Otherwise, keep your arrogant mouth shut until you are over a few days old."
The Minister sat down, surrounded by applause. The RoWWCT slunk out of the room, defeated.

The seas are controlled by the RoWWCT. Therefore, any conference or delegation held at sea, without my government's consent, will be terminated.

Ambassador Vytyjin,

Republic of WWCT

The Minister of the Armed Forces of Pacific Northwesteria leapt up in surprise... who was this... person? who dared interrupt a meeting he or she knew nothing about? Ah... the information was being patched in to him... He responded:
"Excuse me, sir, for butting in to your speech of butting in, but I have twinkies older than your country. Please leave, or I shall be forced to remove you. If you wish to have a contest at sea, you are free to challenge all of us together in a fair fight. Otherwise, keep your arrogant mouth shut until you are over a few days old."
The Minister sat down, surrounded by applause. The RoWWCT slunk out of the room, defeated.

The seas are controlled by the RoWWCT. Therefore, any conference or delegation held at sea, without my government's consent, will be terminated.

Ambassador Vytyjin,

Republic of WWCT

The Minister of the Armed Forces of Pacific Northwesteria leapt up in surprise... who was this... person? who dared interrupt a meeting he or she knew nothing about? Ah... the information was being patched in to him... He responded:
"Excuse me, sir, for butting in to your speech of butting in, but I have twinkies older than your country. Please leave, or I shall be forced to remove you. If you wish to have a contest at sea, you are free to challenge all of us together in a fair fight. Otherwise, keep your arrogant mouth shut until you are over a few days old."
The Minister sat down, surrounded by applause. The RoWWCT slunk out of the room, defeated.

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The seas are controlled by the RoWWCT. Therefore, any conference or delegation held at sea, without my government's consent, will be terminated.

Ambassador Vytyjin,

Republic of WWCT
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Sanchez received the telegram and quickly sent off a reply.

We are meeting here, and you are showing hostile intent. This is not welcome. Also...regarding your stipulation that you control all seas...ignoring the fact that this is completely illegal and may be considered an act of war, we would like to ask, you and what army? ... er...Navy?

Respectfully,

Eric Sanchez

EDIT - Sorry, didn't see your post Pacifica.

EDIT - Sorry, didn't see your post Pacifica.
The Minister of the Armed Forces of Pacific Northwesteria looks up at the appologetic face of the representative from the Zoogie People. "What have you got to be sorry for, old chap? I'm honestly confused!"

EDIT - Sorry, didn't see your post Pacifica.
The Minister of the Armed Forces of Pacific Northwesteria looks up at the appologetic face of the representative from the Zoogie People. "What have you got to be sorry for, old chap? I'm honestly confused!"

OOC: did it have something to do with that RoWWCT? If that's the case, then they deserved to be twice-kicked-out. :)

EDIT - Sorry, didn't see your post Pacifica.
The Minister of the Armed Forces of Pacific Northwesteria looks up at the appologetic face of the representative from the Zoogie People. "What have you got to be sorry for, old chap? I'm honestly confused!"

OOC: did it have something to do with that RoWWCT? If that's the case, then they deserved to be twice-kicked-out. :)

EDIT - Sorry, didn't see your post Pacifica.
The Minister of the Armed Forces of Pacific Northwesteria looks up at the appologetic face of the representative from the Zoogie People. "What have you got to be sorry for, old chap? I'm honestly confused!"

OOC: did it have something to do with that RoWWCT? If that's the case, then they deserved to be twice-kicked-out. :)

EDIT - Sorry, didn't see your post Pacifica.
The Minister of the Armed Forces of Pacific Northwesteria looks up at the appologetic face of the representative from the Zoogie People. "What have you got to be sorry for, old chap? I'm honestly confused!"

OOC: did it have something to do with that RoWWCT? If that's the case, then they deserved to be twice-kicked-out. :)

Yes, I didn't see your post where you already responded to his ... threat, and pretended it was a telegram...never mind. For once, the NS forum went by too fast.

The seas are controlled by the RoWWCT. Therefore, any conference or delegation held at sea, without my government's consent, will be terminated.

Ambassador Vytyjin,

Republic of WWCT

Please forgive me if I don't take this threat seriously. Any attempt on the lives of any officer of the Imperial Navy, which is how your threat would be construed if your nation tried to carry it out, would result in your immediate and absolute destruction. Be gone.

Asiya Saleh,
Dutchess Alexandria,
Director of Diplomatic Services

Excuse me, gentlemen (and women). Now that we have dealt with that ruffian, let us return to more civil matters, such as gleefully blowing stuff up. Who in this room, right now, is in favor of a loose alliance of sorts? We would all have each other on hand via our dossier, and whenever a 2-day-old nation threatens us, we can drop about 500 carrier groups on them. Sound good? With all those "militant regions" out there, it's good to bad together. I already have the support of Doujin and Seversky (same person?), but I would much appreciate a larger agreement.

Excuse me, gentlemen (and women). Now that we have dealt with that ruffian, let us return to more civil matters, such as gleefully blowing stuff up. Who in this room, right now, is in favor of a loose alliance of sorts? We would all have each other on hand via our dossier, and whenever a 2-day-old nation threatens us, we can drop about 500 carrier groups on them. Sound good? With all those "militant regions" out there, it's good to band together. I already have the support of Doujin and Seversky (same person?), but I would much appreciate a larger agreement.

Excuse me, gentlemen (and women). Now that we have dealt with that ruffian, let us return to more civil matters, such as gleefully blowing stuff up. Who in this room, right now, is in favor of a loose alliance of sorts? We would all have each other on hand via our dossier, and whenever a 2-day-old nation threatens us, we can drop about 500 carrier groups on them. Sound good? With all those "militant regions" out there, it's good to band together. I already have the support of Doujin and Seversky (same person?), but I would much appreciate a larger agreement.

IC: Jefferson leaned over towards Matthews. "Mark them down for an accidental marine incursion, would you?" She smiled. He turned to address the room.

"Very well, I felt I may talk at length about the current thinking patterns within modern navies, and their attitudes towards the design and construction of warships, as well as basic naval tactics and other areas"

He coughed. People looked on, some bemused, some listening intently, the Scandanavian representative biting his fingernails.

"It appears that, there has been, some lag, in modern naval thinking. Most of our tactics, our warship designs, are based upon the US or European line of thinking."

Several reps nodded.

"We believe we need to change this..." One slightly bemused face. Jefferson slightly dissappointed. "We use the designs and tactics of a small country, by our standards anyway, which has no major enemies on the waves. America, as a nation state, has a population a fraction of that of most of the major powers in this room. It has a good economy, but no major enemies on the water in which to respond to. Its warships are geared towards defence from air and underwater attack. It operates in a world where there is no major enemy aggressor capable of fighting on their technical level."

"We, unfortunately, dont."

"We live in a world dominated by powers far more capable and far more powerful than the US can ever hope to be, but still we limit ourselves to her designs, her tactics, her *ships*, we judge ourselves by their limits, we build our weapons, to their designs, even though they are unsuitable to our purposes."

"In our nationstates, our aggressors may have hundreds of powerful surface combatants, massive and powerful, far more than even any air strike can ever hope to overpower. And yet..."

"We still limit ourselves to surface combatants incapable of this task. Even the most powerful ships, the Iowas, are ineffective for this role."

"The fact still remains, we need large, powerful surface combatants. But how d we defend them against airstrikes? Against submarines? Well, we have two things the US doesnt have. One, enough money, and two a enemy powerful enough to justify the expenditure, and what for?"

"Look around you. This ship has armour belts so thick each panel weighs more than a submarine. The guns are so large my son could quite happily crawl up them. This ship is built...to outsize any means of attack. Even if a missile or torpedo does penetrate the armour, there are so many bulkheads, doors, blast plates, hell, even empty deck space to absorb the blast with no actual lose of operational capability. We could sit in here and attack an entire carrier group with impunity!"

"Gentlemen, the Leviathan and the Doujin are just the start of a new breed of warship, they are super-battleships, dreadnoughts, if you will. I suggest that, now, we all embark on our own programs. We must maintain mastery of the waves. I propose an international alliance, to promote the growth of our navies, not just in number, but in capability for the nationstate world we live in!"

"Thank you."


OOC: :oops:

"An alliance would certainly not be objectionable with our government... A super battleship would. We have long departed from the American and European designs. I can count the number of nations with craft on par with the Angelus class on my fingers, most of which we have worked with to design. I thought it would be hard getting them to approve the Subcarriers, but the utility of such battleships in our operations... Is slim to none. Another, more quietly spoken policy this nation has adopted is Tactical Nuclear Combat. In an age when ceramic compounds and concrete can create subs that can dive to 5000 meters below the waves, an age when ships can shrug off anti-shipping missiles as easily as a tank does a bullet, we have adpoted a wide array of nuclear weapons under 10 KT, most a fraction of 1KT. A new technology, Plasma-Fission warheads, has made operations against high-altitude and satellite craft much easier, is being adapted for surface use once we optimize the nuclear fuel. But quite simply, the entrance of superships will bring 'supershells'. And based on the reports of my associate here," he said, nodding to the Major,"They may be nuclear. Once the true power of these vessels is seen, we could very well be seeing a tactical nuclear battlefield on the high seas. It is not a prospect I enjoy thinking about. But since the first "superbattleships" emerged, while not nearly as impressive as these Doujin vessels, new rounds have been designed for our weapons. Hypersonic shells, nuclear railgun rounds, MetalStorm in general was designed to give cruisers battleship firepower. We'll gladly ally with you, help you, but military law dictates that the anti-shipping weapons of other nations will catch up, even if it means nuclear weapons."
It was a sobering prospect, Tenner thought. But that was how things worked.

The President of Lutrae nodded his head as the Delegates for New Empire abd The Freethinkers finished their speeches. Salvius and his administration had some experience with rogue upstart nationstates suddendly deciding they were the new bad boy in town, though inwardly he felt that statement might be a bit hypocritical since Lutrae itself is not that old. And the idea of thousands 'dirty-bomb' artilliery shells being lobbed at these 'super-carriers' didn't sit very well with him, and it probably wouldn't with the voters either.

"I am in agreement with both the degegates from The Freethinkers and New empire, an alliance between Nationstates which reley on their navies for protection is an excelent idea, a NATO of the seas if you will. But New Empire has an extremely valid point, we do not want to start an international arms race here." The ex-pilot shifted his legs and crossed them (the manly way ;) ) and coughed. "If you will, harken back to before World War II, nations were developing their navies at astonishing rates, and even though the Washington Accords had placed a limit on how large and heavy a ship was to be, countries left and right where breaking that treaty and trying to best eachother. What did the Bismarck amount to? The mightiest ship in the German navy at the time was fouled by a torpedo striking its rudder, the thing didn't even explode and the ship was doomed." Salvius smiled, he had their attention, nobody who was anyone in the naval community hadn't heard about the tragic end of the Bismarck.
"But i nonetheless support Doujin in building these ships, but there must be limits gentlemen, limits. I do not know what those limits should be, but for starters how many of these 'super-crusiers' one nation can have maybe, or what nations have them. But I don't want us to get greedy gentlemen, that's what started WWII. Any alliance should not just be for the benifit of its members, but the rest of the sea-faring nations of the world. We must make sure that no one power comes too close to dominating the oceans, just as I said, a NATO of the seas."

The President turned to look at the rest of the Delegates and hoped to god he just hadn't made a fool of himself, but he was speaking from his heart and mind, not just blabbering.

The President of Lutrae nodded his head as the Delegates for New Empire abd The Freethinkers finished their speeches. Salvius and his administration had some experience with rogue upstart nationstates suddendly deciding they were the new bad boy in town, though inwardly he felt that statement might be a bit hypocritical since Lutrae itself is not that old. And the idea of thousands 'dirty-bomb' artilliery shells being lobbed at these 'super-carriers' didn't sit very well with him, and it probably wouldn't with the voters either.

"I am in agreement with both the degegates from The Freethinkers and New empire, an alliance between Nationstates which reley on their navies for protection is an excelent idea, a NATO of the seas if you will. But New Empire has an extremely valid point, we do not want to start an international arms race here." The ex-pilot shifted his legs and crossed them (the manly way ;) ) and coughed. "If you will, harken back to before World War II, nations were developing their navies at astonishing rates, and even though the Washington Accords had placed a limit on how large and heavy a ship was to be, countries left and right where breaking that treaty and trying to best eachother. What did the Bismarck amount to? The mightiest ship in the German navy at the time was fouled by a torpedo striking its rudder, the thing didn't even explode and the ship was doomed." Salvius smiled, he had their attention, nobody who was anyone in the naval community hadn't heard about the tragic end of the Bismarck.
"But i nonetheless support Doujin in building these ships, but there must be limits gentlemen, limits. I do not know what those limits should be, but for starters how many of these 'super-crusiers' one nation can have maybe, or what nations have them. But I don't want us to get greedy gentlemen, that's what started WWII. Any alliance should not just be for the benifit of its members, but the rest of the sea-faring nations of the world. We must make sure that no one power comes too close to dominating the oceans, just as I said, a NATO of the seas."

The President turned to look at the rest of the Delegates and hoped to god he just hadn't made a fool of himself, but he was speaking from his heart and mind, not just blabbering.

"The limitations, if any, should not be in size, but use. Similar to the weapons that are used against them, use them as a deterrent. Load them up with the weapons that will be used against them, and show these rouge nations that attempts to domineer the oceans they don't have rights to won't be tolerated. Use them in retaliation, during real wars It is when we deal with those who have power similar to our own that we must be careful with how we use them. With tension with more respected and larger nations, the deployment of one of these ships will be seen as a very serious, and may not be the best choice to preserve peace."

OOC- Okay, my internet's being gay and I haven't been able to read most of page 7, so I'm gonna post and then read it... If I have to add anything, I will...

The ARSB delegates listened intently to the Doujin and other nation's speeches, taking interest into the Doujin-class battleship. The ARSB's naval leadership had, in fact, considered battleships obsolete in this modern battlefield, as they could easily be defeated by naval aircraft, submarines, and faster, lighter ships but this new trimaran battleship had sparked interest in the Fleet Admiral. With its massive firepower and its heavy armor and relatively fast speed, it could inflict massive damage, especially in a support role for firing on land targets. He made a mental note to share this with the Premier. He waits for until the last speaker is finished before he stands up. Fleet Admiral Alexi Gorovsky, primary ARSB delegate, and the commanding officer of the ARSB's First Fleet, wearing his solid white uniform, covered in dangling red, gold, and silver (the awards) and the gold chevrons moving up his arm, stood up to address the rest of the delegates:

"Comrades from other nations, our philosophy for naval warfare has been a fairly complex one. Now, we believe the battleship is obsolete due to its weaknesses against submarines, aircraft, and missiles. Anyways, we have transformed our Navy from a lumbering force of large surface ships to a fast and smaller surface fleet. For the most part, we rely on our Vinogradov medium carrier which is propelled mainly by twin screws although its assisted by water jets. I'd have the specifications for you, but my aide *glances to a member of the ARSB delegation* forgot them in our quarters. If any of you want, I can send her to retrieve them.

Anyways, moving on. The Vinogradov is a relatively fast moving medium carrier, accelerating past the 40 knot mark and being able to hold up to 36 aircraft, I believe. The Vinogradov also has the ability to be specialized, usually having one of the carriers in an expeditionary fleet outfitted completely for anti-ship/anti-submarine warfare, thus carrying ASW/anti-ship combat aircraft and weapons. The Vinogradov can also defend herself quite adequately, with anti-aircraft guns and batteries, anti-ship missile systems, and ASW systems. She's the pride of the ARSB Fleet and we currently have ten of them, two of the carriers are the basis for one of our expeditionary fleets (We have 5 expeditionary fleets). They are surrounded by numerous destroyers, cruisers, frigates, patrol vessels and our 1.21 class ballistic submarine. We do still maintain three large carriers, all can carry upwards of 70 or 80 aircraft and they are the basis of our battle fleets which contain most of our heavier ships. Using this strategy, we can deploy our fast, flexible expeditionary fleets anywhere in the world in a small amount of time. These expeditionary fleets are capable of projecting ARSB power around the world, with out fault and in a record speed, without lacking in firepower. Our battle fleets are only deployed when massive firepower and land attack capabilities are needed.

The next main ship of our future fleet, as we call it, is the 1.21 class ballistic missile submarine. This submarine is able to traverse the waves relatively silently and be able to target and engage any targets. The 1.21 is able to keep up with the Vinogradov carriers and can carry up to 40 of our PAC-56A Javelin cruise missiles, allowing for our submarines to engage inland targets and other ships from hundreds of miles out to see. This allows us a stealth ability for engaging enemy fleets and land targets, and also providing us with extreme flexability in this new combat environment. The 1.21 class is also outfitted with four torpedo tubes for close-in anti-ship/submarine combat.

These two ships, in our navy, have changed our navy from the lumbering force it was to the stealthy, fast assault force it is today. Thank you gentlemen..."

With that the Admiral gives a curt nod to all present and sits back down, straightening his uniform out as he does so.

OOC- Okay, my internet's being gay and I haven't been able to read most of page 7, so I'm gonna post and then read it... If I have to add anything, I will...

The ARSB delegates listened intently to the Doujin and other nation's speeches, taking interest into the Doujin-class battleship. The ARSB's naval leadership had, in fact, considered battleships obsolete in this modern battlefield, as they could easily be defeated by naval aircraft, submarines, and faster, lighter ships but this new trimaran battleship had sparked interest in the Fleet Admiral. With its massive firepower and its heavy armor and relatively fast speed, it could inflict massive damage, especially in a support role for firing on land targets. He made a mental note to share this with the Premier. He waits for until the last speaker is finished before he stands up. Fleet Admiral Alexi Gorovsky, primary ARSB delegate, and the commanding officer of the ARSB's First Fleet, wearing his solid white uniform, covered in dangling red, gold, and silver (the awards) and the gold chevrons moving up his arm, stood up to address the rest of the delegates:

"Comrades from other nations, our philosophy for naval warfare has been a fairly complex one. Now, we believe the battleship is obsolete due to its weaknesses against submarines, aircraft, and missiles. Anyways, we have transformed our Navy from a lumbering force of large surface ships to a fast and smaller surface fleet. For the most part, we rely on our Vinogradov medium carrier which is propelled mainly by twin screws although its assisted by water jets. I'd have the specifications for you, but my aide *glances to a member of the ARSB delegation* forgot them in our quarters. If any of you want, I can send her to retrieve them.

Anyways, moving on. The Vinogradov is a relatively fast moving medium carrier, accelerating past the 40 knot mark and being able to hold up to 36 aircraft, I believe. The Vinogradov also has the ability to be specialized, usually having one of the carriers in an expeditionary fleet outfitted completely for anti-ship/anti-submarine warfare, thus carrying ASW/anti-ship combat aircraft and weapons. The Vinogradov can also defend herself quite adequately, with anti-aircraft guns and batteries, anti-ship missile systems, and ASW systems. She's the pride of the ARSB Fleet and we currently have ten of them, two of the carriers are the basis for one of our expeditionary fleets (We have 5 expeditionary fleets). They are surrounded by numerous destroyers, cruisers, frigates, patrol vessels and our 1.21 class ballistic submarine. We do still maintain three large carriers, all can carry upwards of 70 or 80 aircraft and they are the basis of our battle fleets which contain most of our heavier ships. Using this strategy, we can deploy our fast, flexible expeditionary fleets anywhere in the world in a small amount of time. These expeditionary fleets are capable of projecting ARSB power around the world, with out fault and in a record speed, without lacking in firepower. Our battle fleets are only deployed when massive firepower and land attack capabilities are needed.

The next main ship of our future fleet, as we call it, is the 1.21 class ballistic missile submarine. This submarine is able to traverse the waves relatively silently and be able to target and engage any targets. The 1.21 is able to keep up with the Vinogradov carriers and can carry up to 40 of our PAC-56A Javelin cruise missiles, allowing for our submarines to engage inland targets and other ships from hundreds of miles out to sea. This allows us a stealth ability for engaging enemy fleets and land targets, and also providing us with extreme flexability in this new combat environment. The 1.21 class is also outfitted with four torpedo tubes for close-in anti-ship/submarine combat.

These two ships, in our navy, have changed our navy from the lumbering force it was to the stealthy, fast assault force it is today. Thank you gentlemen..."

With that the Admiral gives a curt nod to all present and sits back down, straightening his uniform out as he does so.

The Minister of the Armed Forces of Pacific Northwesteria silenced the room, and got up to speak. "Friends... for we are all friends here today... let us set forth on a naval journey of incredible magnitude. As has been said, thicker and thicker armor can only get you so far. Although the Doujin waterjet propulsion design would prevent a Bismarck-esque disaster, there are always weapons that can pierce even the toughest armor. The bigger you make the ships, the more it costs, and the cost rises exponetially when you add capability. What we need is a new generation of ship, with powerful weapons, stealth, and SPEED, gentlemen. Speed is essential. While we are talking of history, I may remind those present of the year 1588, when modern naval warfare was in its infancy. Spain launched a great armada in that year, larger and more powerful than anything that could be put in its way. Analogous to the new Doujin. However, it was defeated by the coalition of the English and the Dutch. The English, because of their superior speed and range (the spanish couldn't get within firing range) and the dutch because of their incredibly small, fast, agile strikers. Almost all of the armada was lost, as is evidenced by the fact that the English still speak English. What we need, gentlemen... (dramatic pause) is a lightning-strike force, which is out of the combat area before the enemy knows what hit them.
As a side note, the Minister promised the full support of Pacific Northwesteria in any effort to create and maintain a naval NATO.

"If speed is the concern, I'll direct you to our Angelus Class. Again, I am not allowed to say much, but our submarine can go faster than any other carrier by hundreds of knots. This is the subfighter, this is the Angelus. Come in fast, then go silent, and then hit hard. These superships will have their utility in bombardment, but these subfighters can be their undoing. If you'll look at those speeds, you'll notice they pass, even double the speed of sound. Because while we must maintain our powerful superships, we must be prepared to face others. If you are interested, I will have every declassified specification on Subfighter technology and the Angelus at our disposal."

I will not be able to attend. Our CinC naval forces is out on an exercise. The submarine USS Seawolf has detected a submarine headed for the conference. Our captain did not have orders to engage and the sub is heading at his highest quiet speed. OTHERS MAY BE IN ATTENDANCE. I will send a flight of P-3 Orions to help hunt him. I beleive he has hostile intentions.

Homer, nice try - I had sensor mines laid out through the area, and we are not alone below :wink:



"Good, good.." the Admiral thought. The main point of him calling this conference was to gather some of the best nation's, who are relatively close to Doujin and form a Naval alliance.

"Ahem. Brenner, I can speak for certainty that Doujin would like the specs on the subfighter technology and the Angelus. It really is in our best interests if we have an alliance made.. with someone from our one of our Navy's leading two forces. One in charge of surface control, and one in charge of what goes on below the seas. Submarines may be great, but they still cannot do the damage a large surface combatant vessel can on land targets where Anti-Aircraft / Anti-Missile fire is extreme. I recommend that after we are done here, we all reconvene.. at.." Admiral Gately smiled.. "Reconvene at Navarre Naval Shipyards to sign a treaty if it can be decided by our leaders at the time. Although she is still in construction, I would be honored to give you fine gentlemen, and ladies of course, the first glance at her."

"Oh, and one thing you forgot to mention Lutrae, is that the Bismarck Class also endured about 50 minutes of fire from 16/18" shells. The torpedo is what crippled it, yes, but she was out there taking a beating. There isn't much that can take that, I guarantee you a normal carrier can't."

"And, if I remember right, the [i]Yamato Battleship, one of older design, was sunk only after direct hits from 10 500 lb bombs, and 12 torpedoes. Also, several former Soviet Admirals said they were terrified of battleships since they couldn't stop them with massed cruise missile attacks. And, also, if I remember right.. former Secretary of the Navy John Lehman stated that the Exocet anti-ship missile, which sunk British ships during the Falklands war, can penetrate 2.75 inches of steel. An Iowa battleship has steel armor from 6-17 inches thick, compared to just a quarter inch on modern Aegis cruisers and destroyers. With modern advances, Battleships are far from obsolete. They are only obsolete because people make them that way. Doujinshi Corporation, makes Quality and State-of-the-Art Battleships, not obsolete ones. Maybe the 60 year old Iowa Class is obsolete, but the 1 year old Thunder Child Class is far from it. :wink:

A tall, broad-shouldered man with features that screamed Scandinavian stood up and addressed those gathered, "Gentleman, I am Admiral Stefan Sorensen, Second Sea Lord. My primary task is to plan tactics and strategies as well as run the Office of Naval Intelligence. I will contend that both sides of the capital ship debate are incorrect in that they are focusing too much on battleships or carriers. The Imperial Navy will soon begin a refit that will see the overall increace of capital ships, but even out the three primary types: battlecruisers, battleship, and carriers. We intend to have each of our four fleets restructured to include one eight ship squadron of each type, they will be supplemented by destroyers, cruisers, and frigates in sufficient number that a fleet sailing together would be indestructable with conventional weapons and require several nuclear weapons to finish.

"Also important to this 'NATO of the seas' that has been proposed is commonality of systems, but not necessarily ships. Every nation has their own needs, and in order to increase our effectiveness instead of limiting, we can only realistically have a commonality of logistics.

"Finally, and I can not speak for other nations in this, but our Emperor did not enable us to sign any binding treaty, even with our Doujini allies. We are able, however, to agree in priciple to any reasonable suggestions that would benefit the Imperium and then let the diplomats work out the details at a later date. I think if all of our nations adopted this attitude we could all better serve our nations."

IC: "Well Gentlemen, it is an interesting set of arguements we have all set up, and I believe, if I may, that a treaty could now be proposed. I want to present this basic outline of a treaty, and see where we go form here..."

"Well, diplomatic jargon, age of the high seas, blah blah."

"1) That all nations shall seek at all times to keep the seas free from all those who wish to hamper maritime commerce. All nations shall actively agree to provide safe territorial waters and submit to providing expeditionary forces where appropriate in order to eliminate any pirate or privateer threat."

"2) The establishment of a mutual maritime protection alliance, in order to protect our common interests and provide immediate, proportionate response to any military threat. In order to do this we must:

"i) Create a standing naval force from all of our navies. This force will be on standby all the time for immediate responce to any threat that may appear without warning.

"ii) That we would strive to create operational, if not actual system, harmanisation, in order to facilitate joint operations.

"iii) That serious funding be given over to developing new, joint classes to be used within all navies, in order t improve the effects of ii)

"iv) There should be an exponential increase in the number and size of joint warfare exercises between our navies. There should, in turn, also be the establishment of a officer/crew exchange program between our various naval forces."

"3) Most of all, we must emphasise common defense against all aggressors by being united, our population vastly exceeds any other military alliance on the water, and out technological might and our forces proffessionalism will see through any hard time."

"I feel as this does cover everythign that we have discussed, so does anyone want to add anything?"

"I agree to the reconvene date, it would mean a hell of a lot less hassle for me in regards to travelling. By the way," He looked up towards the Doujin admiral. "I would appreciate you not deploying a fullsized battlegroup to the port of Navarre. It is a working port, and the space is not unlimited. If you could remove them to offshore waters, then we would appreciate it. Trust me, nothing is gonna get through to the Doujin" He grinned. "Well, anything else?"

OOC:
Bloody RL getting in the way.
Oh and bloddy forum for eating my huge post!!!!

IC:

The Crookfur stance is that in terms of vessels there is a place for eveything and that classes should be used together to give a synergetic operational ability.

As to the formindable Doujin clas sit is impressive but Crookfur tends to shy away from putting all its eggs in one huge (mega armoured) basket mainly due to our fear of the "golden bullet".

As to the points raised by The Freethinkers: we agree on all aspects of your proposal with soem reserves on the joint vessel design (mainly due to our past experiences with foreign naval vessels where we ended up with a huge logistics problem) but it is soemthign we are willing to look at.

[OOC: sorry, RL getting in the way and the such, and also the forums not working properly most of the time when im on! So, could i have a summary of whats happened so far? From the last few posts, i gather that your all thinking of doing a joint project? Ill help if thats the case, and ill RP it!]

The commodore had been ill the last few days, and so had not been able to attend the conference, but he was, slowly, gaining his strenght back. His 4 bodyguards where there, or at least nearby all the time. He felt safe, especcialy when he had heard, from a bodyguard of the Homer incident, it seemed that everything was great, other than his cold. From what he had gathered the main points of the conference where that a new Carrier battleship had been designed, and was under construction, he wondered wether the government knew of this before, and also that a new project was on the drawing board, the exact details he was waiting to hear.

"This naval NATO idea could be a great thing for all nations involved," said Axx. "Don't you think? If a thing of such magnitude could actually be set up..." his voice trailed off, and he continued listening to the various delegates voice their ideas, assents, objections, and everything in between.

"I just wish I had more to add to this. Pwnica has been "cut off" from the world so to say, for a while. Our Navy has recieved no additions in a long time, and we wish to change that."

He snapped back and talked to the room at large.

"Back to this new NATO idea. If this actually goes into action, Pwnica will of course support it in any means possible."

The First Sea Lord stood up again and said, "We can agree in principle to most of the treaty proposed. As Stefan pointed out, every nation has their own needs and to have an alliance with the same designs across the board would not only limit a nation's effectiveness within a task, but most likely cripple most of our individual nation's naval industry. We also can't agree to having our Navy at the beck and call of this organization for mere pirates, Scandavian States has powerful enemies in Metus and we can't afford to have ships away when we need them most. We'll of course arrest, try, and convict pirates whereever they may be found, but our navy isn't gear for commerce protection mainly because our primary export is defense equipment such as tanks and ships."

"We will gladly agree to these terms. And for dealing with issues such as pirates, there are other options. Littoral Combat Vessels and 'Sea Fighter' type ships would much better fit this role, and perhaps a task force of alliance nations shall be formed to deal with them. And should anyone be intrested in our subfighter technology," he continued, nodding to the Doijin admiral, "I'm sure we can work something out. I've emailed the rough draft that was propsed earlier, and I've recieved a reply OKing an entrance into this naval alliance."

Our exercise just ended. Our Admiral Fletcher would like to join the talks. We present the following gift. We ask that you not reproduce or sell her.

Halsey class CVNX USS Jefferson
length: 1200feet
beam: at water line, 148; at flight deck: 280 feet
draught: 41 feet
displacement: 125,000 tons

Defense weapons
SAM, AEGIS system. SM-2 SAM missiles
CIWS, 20mm guns
Sea Sparrow SAM

radar: Air search SPY-1D; SPG-51 AEGIS radar; Surface: Norden SPS

Aircraft: 65 Lockheed Martin F-35B JSF; 4 E-2 Hawkeyes; 8 S-3 Viking ASW and tanker; 2 C-2 greyhounds; 4 EA6B Prowlers; 8 S-60 Seahawks ASW and SAR choppers

Powerplant: 6 x Liquid metal reactors providing for flank speed of 36-37 knots

4 catapults, but JSF is VTOL.

Countermeasures: flares, aluminum chaff, and Nixie torpedo decoy

IC: "Well Gentlemen, it is an interesting set of arguements we have all set up, and I believe, if I may, that a treaty could now be proposed. I want to present this basic outline of a treaty, and see where we go form here..."

"Well, diplomatic jargon, age of the high seas, blah blah."

"1) That all nations shall seek at all times to keep the seas free from all those who wish to hamper maritime commerce. All nations shall actively agree to provide safe territorial waters and submit to providing expeditionary forces where appropriate in order to eliminate any pirate or privateer threat."

"2) The establishment of a mutual maritime protection alliance, in order to protect our common interests and provide immediate, proportionate response to any military threat. In order to do this we must:

"i) Create a standing naval force from all of our navies. This force will be on standby all the time for immediate responce to any threat that may appear without warning.

"ii) That we would strive to create operational, if not actual system, harmanisation, in order to facilitate joint operations.

"iii) That serious funding be given over to developing new, joint classes to be used within all navies, in order t improve the effects of ii)

"iv) There should be an exponential increase in the number and size of joint warfare exercises between our navies. There should, in turn, also be the establishment of a officer/crew exchange program between our various naval forces."

"3) Most of all, we must emphasise common defense against all aggressors by being united, our population vastly exceeds any other military alliance on the water, and out technological might and our forces proffessionalism will see through any hard time."

"I feel as this does cover everythign that we have discussed, so does anyone want to add anything?"

"I agree to the reconvene date, it would mean a hell of a lot less hassle for me in regards to travelling. By the way," He looked up towards the Doujin admiral. "I would appreciate you not deploying a fullsized battlegroup to the port of Navarre. It is a working port, and the space is not unlimited. If you could remove them to offshore waters, then we would appreciate it. Trust me, nothing is gonna get through to the Doujin" He grinned. "Well, anything else?"

"Excellent", said the Pacific Northwesteria Minister of the Armed Forces. "This is much more usefull than the sporadic suggestions of a treaty. Pacific Northwesteria would like to suggest that all nations in this new "naval NATO" move to a new region, named "Naval NATO Alliance". This will greatly facilitate joint construction (as shipping costs will be cut drastically) as well as mutual protection. If there are problems with this strategy, please let me know, and I will try to find a way to work around them. Good day." *moves to Naval NATO Alliance*

IC: "Well Gentlemen, it is an interesting set of arguements we have all set up, and I believe, if I may, that a treaty could now be proposed. I want to present this basic outline of a treaty, and see where we go form here..."

"Well, diplomatic jargon, age of the high seas, blah blah."

"1) That all nations shall seek at all times to keep the seas free from all those who wish to hamper maritime commerce. All nations shall actively agree to provide safe territorial waters and submit to providing expeditionary forces where appropriate in order to eliminate any pirate or privateer threat."

"2) The establishment of a mutual maritime protection alliance, in order to protect our common interests and provide immediate, proportionate response to any military threat. In order to do this we must:

"i) Create a standing naval force from all of our navies. This force will be on standby all the time for immediate responce to any threat that may appear without warning.

"ii) That we would strive to create operational, if not actual system, harmanisation, in order to facilitate joint operations.

"iii) That serious funding be given over to developing new, joint classes to be used within all navies, in order t improve the effects of ii)

"iv) There should be an exponential increase in the number and size of joint warfare exercises between our navies. There should, in turn, also be the establishment of a officer/crew exchange program between our various naval forces."

"3) Most of all, we must emphasise common defense against all aggressors by being united, our population vastly exceeds any other military alliance on the water, and out technological might and our forces proffessionalism will see through any hard time."

"I feel as this does cover everythign that we have discussed, so does anyone want to add anything?"

"I agree to the reconvene date, it would mean a hell of a lot less hassle for me in regards to travelling. By the way," He looked up towards the Doujin admiral. "I would appreciate you not deploying a fullsized battlegroup to the port of Navarre. It is a working port, and the space is not unlimited. If you could remove them to offshore waters, then we would appreciate it. Trust me, nothing is gonna get through to the Doujin" He grinned. "Well, anything else?"

"Excellent", said the Pacific Northwesteria Minister of the Armed Forces. "This is much more usefull than the sporadic suggestions of a treaty. Pacific Northwesteria would like to suggest that all nations in this new "naval NATO" move to a new region, named "Naval NATO Alliance". This will greatly facilitate joint construction (as shipping costs will be cut drastically) as well as mutual protection. If there are problems with this strategy, please let me know, and I will try to find a way to work around them. Good day." *moves to Naval NATO Alliance*

IC:
" Well "said the commodore"this does look rather interesting, we ourselves are not much of a naval country, althrough we have a good small one, mainly based around air support, the reason why we have so many light carriers. Ive talked to the CinC of the naval forces, and he talked to the president. They agreed that this is a very good idea, and we would be willing to help with this cause, especcialy in such matters as coastal defence, an area in naval warfare that we think is highly underestimated. We also agree with all the terms, and the idea itself we have no issue with, other than a few small clauses, althrough they are of no matter. So therefore, on behalf of War in Heaven, i accept this offer or propasal as you wish to call it, and will give all the support we can "

OOC: I like this idea, althrough our navy is mainly coastal and air like, with several submarine packs.

we will send general joskoskve and 4 bodyguards to theis conferance

Jefferson raised his hand again:

"Im glad to see the proposal has many supporters, if not of all proposals. Our only problem is th name of this organisation. Naval NATO is all well and good, but "Naval North Atlantic Treaty Organisation' does not seem to accurately reflect ourselves somewhat."

"I would suggest an independent name. Something like the Maritime Alliance or the Organisation of Maritime Powers in order to fully underline our organisation and its purpose..."

The Office of the Chief-of-Defence of the Ganchelkean Armed Forces would like to send Admiral Yoeri Stroteski, Commanding Officer of the Ganchelkean Northern Fleet and Second-in-Command of the Ganchelkean Navy.

"iii) That serious funding be given over to developing new, joint classes to be used within all navies, in order t improve the effects of ii)


"We do agree that this may need changing, perhaps, this clause will be better:

iii) "Where a common need and requirement has been identified by several navies, the respective members shall be able to effectively pool their research and expenditure into the creation of a single class. The increas ein budget and research capability, as well as naval experience, should help produce superior naval vessels and vastly improve the advantages acquired through ii"

"Any more ideas for charter clauses or anything?"

"The change sounds good. As for the name, the Organization of Maritime Powers sounds like a good name. However, I don't think a moving of reigons should be required. We have to close ties with the APTO, including a leading position, to move out. We can maintain our purpose even seperated by the oceans of the world."

"Now the question comes up - who is in charge of the OMP's Naval forces?"

I maintain that Naval NATO will be sufficient, although the name doesn't really matter. As for who is in charge of the naval forces, Pacific Northwesteria does not believe that this should fall to any one nation. If we combine our forces THAT thoroughly, then we are essentially one nation, belonging to whoever we put in charge. I do not wish to relinquish complete control of my Navy. However, what may be good is the kind of alliance system that was suggested previously (I agree to the change). Obviously, if any member nation is attacked, all will respond. That is not in question. However, where does one draw the line? Is violation of territorial waters enough to evoke this response? Most likely, but there may be some dissent. I believe that there should be levels of responsibility, which we can give corny "code red" kind of names if we wish.
1. "Code red", of course, would be a confirmed attack on one or more member nations. All nations would respond immediately. Each nation would be in charge of its own fleet, but the defending nation would be the "allied commander", if you will.
2. The next level down would be possible foreign threats, trade embargoes, and pirates. These threats do not need the full response of all member nations. Pirates, for example, could be taken out by a single decent fighter jet. However, all member nations are encouraged to contribute ships, and the "allied commander" would be the nation that called for action.
3. The next level down would be alliance on paper. Trade agreements, pooling resources for military R&D, and general goodwill. This is continuous and in some ways "optional". No nation will be forced to pool resources in this level.
4. We are permitted to declare the backing of the alliance in time of war during stiff negotiations, as long as it is not done irresponsibly or belligerently. Hopefully, this will get the opposing nation to step down.

In all cases, except for direct and unprovoked attack, a casus belli must be presented to all member nations.
One reason that I suggest all moving to the same region, and then kicking out anyone who joins without permission (or passwording it) is this: We would all be able to see who all was in the alliance (not everyone posts frequently). The very act of being in the region would be a binding contract to the terms of the agreement. The World Factbook entry could be modified to read as that agreement. It would give us an easy way of contacting our fellow naval powers, much more easily than mass-dossier work. And lastly, as I have said before, it would give us a greater concentration of force, less travel time to send reinforcements to an ally in peril, and make cooperative, secret operations such as designing weapons much easier. Thank you.
And with that, the Minister of the Armed Forces stepped down, awaiting replies.

"I belive the OMP shall work fine. We don't have anything to do with the North Atlantic. However, during emergencies, we can have one member ask for a task force, and other members shall volunteer their vessels to it. During war, the member nations would send their ships to be commanded on a strategic level by the attacked member. The attacked nation could ask for what needed to be done, and it would be up to the ship's owners how to accomplish it."

I will sign on to the treaty.

But, will you accept the gift I offered yesterday?

"There will need to be a naval commander when we pool our ships together as one. Like in Europe, there is the Supreme Allied Commander (SAC).. he handles foreign troops put under his control for peacekeeping and any other operations that might befall the continent."

"Also, moving to a new region is not necessary. However, I will make a website and a messageboard for us to have a private way of communicating to eachother."

We all know NS boards suck and many times NS itself sucks because it times out when changing pages :P ill make a site and find a board and such.

Jefferson clears his throat, and replies.

"What was suggested was a limited force created by vessels deployed by various nations, equal to the Nato standing fleets, in order to provide an immediate and effective ."

"We feel the name should most definately be changed. There is already a NATO region, we do not want confusion, and aside from an entire lack of originality, being the Naval North Atlantic Treaty Organisation doesn't actually make any actual sense. A name is important to identify ourselves with."

"We do agree about force command. The attacking nation should be given the leadership of any supporting forces as they have the best experience of operating in their local theatre."

"And should this alliance stop at naval power? I mean, perhaps we should bring in other branches. If this is going to be a ilitary alliance, then it is likely we will need multi-force responses to most threats."

"Gentlemen..."

Homer, go away - you are not here.

:!: :arrow: :!:

The President of Lutrae had been sitting back for the last day or so mainly due to a sporatic headaches. (OOC: RL, 24hr flu >.<). He popped another asprin into his mouth and took a swig of his glass of water.
He stood up, coughed, and began.

"The nation of Lutrae supports this alliance whole-heartedly, and I promise to sign the treaty when it is fully drafted. I agree that Naval NATO is a bit confusing, if not corny, but it was more of an analogy as to what this alliance could be. Organization of Maritime Powers is a fitting name, simple yet broad in it's meaning. As a mesure of good-will towards the organization I am prepared to donate the newest Otter Class submarine, the L.L.S Myriah. She is 2 months away from being completed."

"As to whether we should expand the alliance from just Naval forces, I disagree, this conference was called to discuss Naval tatics, equipment, and alliances. With all of our nations so spread apart it would be extremely hard for us to sincronize forces across such vast distances."

OOC: holy shit homework took me like fore ever to finish. damn teachers.

IC: the general woke up in 6:00 in the morning. He got up and put on his slippers. Slowly he walked into the bathroom and took a nice and hot shower. He walked out and got in his limo, where he was driven to the Emporer naval base of penguisiana.

"Good morning sir" the comander said to the secretary. She said nothing, but looked widely shocked, the comander turned around and saw nothing, "weird" he thought.

He walked into his wherehe drank coffee, relaxed he took a newspaper and began reading it. Around 10 o'clock the high cheif came into the office and saw the general and was greatly shocked too.

"good morning sir" said the general. "man everybody has the same expression today"

"n-no general" said the high cheif. "you are supposed to be at doujin conference today, your ride was waiting for you at 5 am yesterday."

the general's face squirmed. "why the hell did you bnot remind me yesterday?"

"because you didn't show up for work yesterday, we thought you were sick"

"dammit!" the general turned around and began running back to his car, got in and pulled out into the road so wuikly that the car rammed into another car. "shit" he muttered as he droved wildly to his house, he turned on his phaser to prevent police cars stopping him.

He ran into his house and desperatly searched for his suitcase. tried to dress nicely and left again. he got into his car and drove to the emporer dock.

He pulled up next to the boat that was his ride, the nordac.
'you ddin't call me yesterday?' yelled the general at the crew

"b-but si.."

"FIRED FIRED FIRED!" yelled the general, he walked away, stiopped and turned around. "after this trip"

a day later he arrived at the conference center. suit wrinkled, tie messed. breif case broken he rushed into the room of the conference center. He swung open the door and barged in. He triped on the door stop and fell on the floor, papers flying every where. he got up and saw everyone staring blankly at him. he smiled pathetically.

"what did I miss?"

"As to whether we should expand the alliance from just Naval forces, I disagree, this conference was called to discuss Naval tatics, equipment, and alliances. With all of our nations so spread apart it would be extremely hard for us to sincronize forces across such vast distances."

I know that my idea has already been shot down, so I will make this brief: this entire problem would be solved by moving to a new region. It doesn't have to be Naval NATO Alliance, as we don't have anything to do with the north Atlantic (i meant it metaphorically), but I still think it's a good idea. *checks to see if Organization of Maritime Powers is available*
Good. The name is too long, though. *moves to Org of Maritime Powers* I invite all nations who wish to benefit from proximity to join.

OOC: As for a more efficient way of communication, how about IM? We could agree to be online at a given time, copy/paste the discussion into the forum (because not everyone would be able to be there.)

OOC: As for a more efficient way of communication, how about IM? We could agree to be online at a given time, copy/paste the discussion into the forum (because not everyone would be able to be there.)

OOC: As for a more efficient way of communication, how about IM? We could agree to be online at a given time, copy/paste the discussion into the forum (because not everyone would be able to be there.)

my AIM is kalapoka

Why can't I join. I would like to contribute my ships and my designs to this alliance.

1. Because I don't like you.
2. Because I don't like your name.
3. Because you were born the same year I was.
4. Because you didn't sign up for the conference and it's already started, thus you aren't here.

Armed military escorts rushed in and grabbed the Credonian Secretary of State.

"Lauren Smith, you are to come with us."

"Do you know who I am? I am the Credonian Secretary of State. Unhand me!"

"I'm sorry, ma'am, but I cannot."

With that, she started to resist. She pushed away a military escort and tried to get to her bag. Three guards grabbed her and cuffed her with military handcuffs.

"I apologize for this ma'am, but you cannot resist. You will be transferred to an alternate location."

The guards loaded her on a helicopter, which promptly took off - guarded by 6 other attack helos and headed for the Doujin Military Headquarters.

OOC: I assumed you agreed to this before hand? :roll:

Agreed to what?

This has been an OOC post by Doujin

OOC: Stealing his Secretary of State! lol, I would be mortally offended :twisted:

I am waiting for Credonia to get on to finish the plot

OOC: Okay, fair enough. And what plot...nm :oops:

"We are 5 minutes out from HQ. Escorts are departing us now, we are now in the Doujin Air Defense Grid."

"Thank you, Lieutenant."

The Colonel turns to the Credonian Secretary of State.

"Ma'am, I apologize for this - but it was the belief of the DIA that your life was in danger, as well as the ship and we had to immediatly move you from the DN Behemoth to Doujin Military Headquarters for protection. As you know, there have been many threats on Credonia and vice versa and at this moment in time it isn't exactly safe for us to try and transport you back to Credonia. With that, we cannot allow anyone to know you are in Doujin, as we may end up being a target for harboring enemies of our Allies, so we cannot allow you to communicate with Credonia at this current moment. You will be provided a room fit for royalty during your stay here, and anything you request will be provided."

The Credonian Secretary of State fumed, as she was still cuffed.

"Colonel, we landing now."

The helicopter landed, and a military guard ran up and opened the door.

"Give me your hands, Ma'am."

She stuck out her hands, and the Colonel took out a knife and cut off the 'handcuffs'.

"Come with me, please."

The Colonel took the the Secretary to a large room, truely fit for a king - or in her case, a Queen.

"Again, Ma'am, I apologize. I hope you are comfortable with the arrangements. I must go now, Ma'am, but if you need me just ask Private Mason here for Colonel Rodrigeuz, and I will come help you out."

With that, the Colonel walked out of the room and shut the door.

" hmm, what was that about? " Asked the commodore.

" Im not sure sir, but if i where you id forget about it completly, you know how dangerous it can be, and we dont have any weapons " repplied one of the trusted bodyguards.

" Ill do my best, its not the type of thing you forget in a hurry through. Anyway, have you Telegramed the information on this alliance? "

" I Faxed it sir "

" They have Faxes on these ships? "

" It would apper so sir "

" Well, if these blatteships come on sale and im admiral then ill be putting a lot of money into one thing! The luxiary! Wouldnt you love it?... "
As the Commodore droned on, one of the Body guards detached himself from the group, where he was heading was anyones guess.
OOC: Doujin? You have troops all around me dont you? I think we might have a small fight... :D

Perosnally i woudl advocate perahps an external forum as i fully understand why soem established nations would be very resistant to moveing region.

Of course external forums can be a bit distracting a ttimes and can be forgotten about.

Crookfur has no problem contributing units to standing forces where applicable (assignments would of course rotate amoungst our different formations/ships).

As a to a position of command it is likely that soem such system would be required in certain situations but perhaps not in others.

As to providing units from other arms it is a possibility but we would liekly provide these as required on an adhoc basis rather than a formal arrangement (ie unless you are involved in a fulls clae invasion you aren't going to need global range bomber fleets or armored divsions). Of course when Crookfur comits it's navy it also comits its marines and attached joint service and army support units.


For the name it doesn't bother us too much but the simple name of the Maritime Alliance (MA) or perhaps Maritime Allied Defense Executive (MADE) but OMP or AMP works too.

Damnit, I go on vacation for three days and miss this much. Catch me up anybody?

IC:

*Sits confused as everything whirls by*

Secretary Smith looked around, and approached Private Mason

"Just waht in the world is going on? What right do you have to handcuff me as if i were some type of criminal. When the emperor recieves word of this, he will be most displeased. I demand an explanation!"

"My apologies, ma'am, but intelligence suggested that a fleet could be inbounds to the DN Behemoth, a fleet of nations against Credonia.. one of which was onboard the Behemoth at the time.. we had to make it look like we were arresting you. As powerful as the Behemoth is, she cannot take an entire Fleet by herself, and naval reinforcements weren't close enough to counter this fleet."

"Let me contact the Emperor and have him send in Credonian forces. We have a VERY powerful fleet and with the combined strength of our allies, no one from any nation would be done harm"

"Doujin allowing Credonian military forces to come would mark us as supporters of Credonia and may make us a target if a war were to happen. Doujin wants to be strictly nuetral. We have arranged for your return home.. it will takes us 4 days, however. "

"Very well, but i must express Credonia's interest in this powerful naval vessel you talked about during the conference. Perhaps Credonia could buy some in the future from your nation?"

"What powerful naval vessel?"

^ Private Mason, not everyone in the Doujin military knows about the Doujin Class

Looks at the private for a moment witha blank stare and realizes he knows nothing about it.

"oh..nothing, i was thinking of something else. Forget it."

Private Mason looks at Secretary Smith with a puzzled face :?

"Is there anything else I can do for you, ma'am?"

"Ahem", the Pacific Northwesteria Minister of the Armed Forces cleared his throat back at the conference. "Fellow nations of the Organization of Maritime Powers, would you flatter me by creating or moving an existing puppet nation into my region? This would serve as a good (and a bit faster) way of communicating with each other, and would not require you to leave your own beloved regions. What do you say? Or should an old man like me just be quiet?"

OOC:Done, LOMP, which stands for Lutrae Org. Martime Powers (as a member) has joined the region.

OOC:Done, LOMP, which stands for Lutrae Org. Martime Powers (as a member) has joined the region.

OOC: thank you. Any other takers?

OOC: Where is this region? I also have an interesting preposition...

IC: the body quard had been spotted by one of the other guards
" Sir, Wickers has left the group, what should i do? " Asked the head of the team, Captain O'naid

" Nothing, leave it to the security personnel, its not our job " Answered the commodore

" Yes sir... " Wincked the Captain.

Without a word, the whole group of body guards turned and Sprinted for Wickers, making no sound. As they reached him Wickers put his hand into his pocket, as if to pull out a gud or a knife.

" GETDOWNSIR! " Ordered the captain, as one of the security personnel dashed foward to pull the Commodore down, out of harms way.

There was a scuffle as the Captain and his team of bodyguards reached Wickers. As Wickers hit the floor, he screamed in pain, the Captain had injected him with something, something that was making him very agitated. Later on in the day, when everything was cleared up, the commodore was speaking on the scrambled phone to the chief of staff:
" Well sir, i dont know why it happened, you say wickers was one of ours, and the captain knew, but why then would he attack him? "

" well, the answer is because he is a terrorist, one of the last rebels, but one from a group that is doing its best to get back into the headlines, and they thought that by finding out about this ship and selling the story they would do well. we found out just today that he was a rebel, but we wereent sure, so we had wickers, who is one of the "reds" agents keep an eye on him. He was about to confirm what we feared. "

" So the captain decided that he would be best of to kill him!?! "

" Thats right, anyway, thats all over now, the captain, whos real name is Jobed Danners, will be charged with spying and the such, and will be likely to be shot "

Back at the meeting, the commodore had proposed that the alliance be connected with other alliances, such as the GDI and ADN for examples, to form a better alliance, where each member organisation/nation was in charge of patrolling a certain area, making the amount of work needed less, althrough a lot of co-operation would be needed. It would also mean that smaller nations with a small Navy could help out.

OOC: To anynation here, why is it that Homer isnt liked?

OOC: can i be taken back to the conference now....peace has returned and Credonia and opposing nations are no longer on a war path (a peace agreement has been reached and a peace treaty will be signed)

Secretary Smith woke up with a start.

"My that was a nasty dream." she said to herself.

She got up, put some clothes on and went to get a cup of coffee from the 'Mess Hall'. Taking the cup with her, she walked along the outside deck of the DN Behemoth, and looked at the open sea as the sun slowly arose.

(OOC: There, all a bad dream :P)

OOC: A dream? outside of the shower? what ever next... :wink:

hhmmm pupets, i haven't been bothered with any yet but perhaps...

OOC: Where is this region? I also have an interesting preposition...

The region is called
Org. of Maritime Powers

OOC: Where is this region? I also have an interesting preposition...

The region is called
Org of Maritime Powers

The region isn't necessary, it is a waste of time Pacific Northwesteria. I know you want to do something to help, but a region isn't exactly the best idea.

http://s6.invisionfree.com/orgmp/index.php <- Message board, I'll work on that soon


http://www.geocities.com/orgmarpow <- future site of the Organization of Maritime Powers

Bump

^^^

Well I registered for the forums... But there's nothing to post in.

will work on that later.. need to go now

Nice job with the site Doujin... it looks as though you've done this before :-P
Anyway, once that gets up and running, we can effectively abandon this thread. That would be nice. Oh, and it was me who sent you the e-mail. I apologize for not saying who was sending it ;)
anyways, nice job. ttyl.

Nice job with the site Doujin... it looks as though you've done this before :-P
Anyway, once that gets up and running, we can effectively abandon this thread. That would be nice. Oh, and it was me who sent you the e-mail. I apologize for not saying who was sending it ;)
anyways, nice job. ttyl.

Nice job with the site Doujin... it looks as though you've done this before :-P
Anyway, once that gets up and running, we can effectively abandon this thread. That would be nice. Oh, and it was me who sent you the e-mail. I apologize for not saying who was sending it ;)
anyways, nice job. ttyl.