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C-71 Military Transport - Incredibly large caro

The Zoogie People
16-03-2004, 00:48
C-71 'Progeny' - Colossal military airlift

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Overview - the C-71 is a gigantic cargo that is significantly more reliable, capable, aerodynamic, advanced, and safe, among other things, in comparison to its heavy cargo transports, the C-5 and An-124. It is capable of airlifting ~ 190 tons a distance of nearly 5000 miles and has unlimited range with in-air refueling. Featuring box-wing technology and an advanced ECM suite, with some of the most rock-solid systems and navigational equipment, the Progeny is one of the most capable heavy military transport aircraft in the world - an excellent choice for replacing your C-5/An-124s. Buy some today!

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The CCP Colossal Cargo Programme called for a heavy cargo to effectively replace the only aging C-5B in military service and fill in the glaringly obvious gap of long-range, dedicated, absurdly large transports. The focus of survivability, reliability, and other cutting edge technologies make this a rock-solid selection for moving supplies.

Role (Military transport) / Performance (All weather, close to Mach 1) / Service ceiling (50,000-feet +) / Range (~ 5,000 mi)

Project history

Work was well underway on a gigantic cargo used to build up military positions and ship in supplies to fortified airfields - a la C-5 and An-124. No program in particular resulted in the Zoogie Aerospace C-71; rather, it was a box-wing study under private development until the DDAhighlighted the need for a strategic 'large military transport' over twice the carrying capacity of the C-240 'Pallas' medium cargo. The Pallas is an extraordinarily effective cargo with high speed and great extensibility, but having only the Pallas is like having only the F-22 in your air corps...just as multirole fighters need to supplement an air superiority fighter, so do large strategic airlifts need to supplement faster frontline transports. Affectionately known as the SMBC (Supermassive black cargo), Zoogie Aerospace Corp was given the go-ahead to proceed with the project, of which an initial estimate 120 were required. Shrouded by secrecy, the SMC (as it was shortened to), is yet another revolutionary product brought to you by The Sprawling Liberal Morass of The Zoogie People.

Airframe

The Progeny was offspring of the box wing technology under research at Zoogie Aerospace, who has also released a box wing civilian airliner and is under consideration for a box-wing JSTARS-type program. The box wing design is a variant of the joined wing concept, a variant in which the front and rear wings are connected as one piece. Long, swept wings are joined together with the fuselage at two points. The tips of the front and rear wings are connected by endplates, thereby reducing potential interference problems at the tips. This ensures that aerodynamically, flight will be smooth, safe, and sound.Four massive engines are housed under the endplates towards the rear. As said before, this concept has been fully exploited by Zoogie Aerospace, and is now used additionally in airliners and tankers, as well as the possibility of JSTARS. The airframe also builds on the successes and failures of prior airfframe, although much of it is cutting edge Zoogie design.

Powerplant

The four dry-thrust turbofan engines in the rear of the aircraft are each 50,120-lbs in thrust, providing overall thrust akin to that of the An-124, one of the world's largest aircraft. Range being a priority in the SMC's design, the engines had to be fuel efficient. As Zoogiedom's top aircraft supplier, Zoogie Aerospace was in good position to design fuel efficient engines along with Esmier Corp. With additional collaboration with Ampar, the engines are 'the pride of this company,' according to one engineer. Although currently the ZaS(ZF)-27 air superiority fighter is widely regarded as the 'pride of this company,' the engines are an outstanding acheivement. The SMC has unrefueled range of 4960 miles.

Avionics

The SMC, in theory, could go to the frontlines, or somewhere not far behind, but like the C-5 and An-124, is not designed to. The SMC's avionics, therefore, are largely navigational. Not so much focus has ben given to passive radar, although the system is still there, working with RWR to detect incoming radar signals, and in the domestic variant, relay them to the escorting group(s).

As for navigational avionics, the SMC's are superb. Incorporated into the many MFDs in the cockpit, the multitude of navigational systems, including GPS more advanced than that of the HSC, and inertial navigational systems, help guide the aircraft smoothly to the destination. As with any cargo, a certain level of logistics is required. As in the HSC, autopilot can smoothly guide the aircraft to its destination with the correct waypoints - only pilot activity required is the takeoff/landing procedure.

Systems

Not only would the loss of one of these mean the loss of lives and equipment, it would also mean the loss of a tremendous amount of supplies. As such, the aircraft's systems were required to be rock-solid. Perfecting hydraulics, landing gear, and other systems delayed the SMC for several years. However, it was time well spent. The SMC has very few system failures and runs like butter.

In addition, much work was put into a fly-by-wire system of amazing complication. Even aside the time used to develop systems for every aspect of the aircraft's structure and monitoring every aspect of them, the fly-by-wire system was developed, refined, enhanced, revamped, and enhanced again. It is sure to deliver safe, calm, smooth flights that will deliver your cargo without hitch...not to mention push the aircraft to its optimal performance levels.

Survivability

For an aircraft that doesn't operate in the front lines, survivability (at least on the countermeasures level) - was not as important as a safe and stable ride. A chaff-and-flare system, for example is not included. Not only would the aircraft never theoretically face incoming missile threats, but there was not much chaff and flares could do for such a large aircraft. Traditionally chaff and flare were discharged seconds before impact, in which fighters would quickly manuever away - this isn't possible with large cargoes, much less humongous ones such as this. It's like comparing the turn radius manueverability of a radio-controlled 1/20 scale corvette with a Hummer...no, as aerodynamic and refined this design is, it's still not going to out-manuever a Eurofighter.

Active electronic countermeasures are used, however, to distort enemy radar in worst-case scenarios. A traditional ECM system fools incoming radar guided missiles, throwing off most, and confusing enemy radar-based tracking systems, while limited pods on each wing can be activated to emit signals that disrupt incoming radar signals even more.

(If IR missiles are fired on your C-71, however, it may be that you need to completely revise your logistics, or you need a better air superiority fighter. If you don't mind subliminal corporate advertising, Zoogie Aerospace Corp. also makes the ZF-27...)

Cargo

So after reading the loads and loads of garbage above, you find what you are looking for - cargo. The SMC is truly a colossal cargo. At a length of 318 feet, it ousts the C-5 by a considerable margin, while the fuselage has only been reduced slightly. It is also slightly taller than a C-5, at 68 feet compared to 65 - yes, you read correctly. The SMC is a whole three feet taller than the C-5! What is most important, however, is that the cargo capacity is unparalleled among production airlifters.

Obviously capable of carrying artiller, small planes (e.g. Cessna), and helicopters, the SMC is capable of airlifting 190 tons of equipment, or 380,000-lbs. This is more capacity by a large margine over the An-124. Indeed, the SMC dwarfs the C-5 and easily fulfills any nation's need for a 'big-*** cargo'*.

Some of you will obviously whine about the An-225. Yes, the An-225 is a monstrous cargo that airlifts more. We admit as much - and use an incredibly large number (sixteen!) in our air force. However, the An-225 is used as a carrier for exosphere (outer space) vessels and only one is in production in real-life. What does this tell you about its combat effectiveness? It is not only designed with an important role in mind that has nothing to do with transport, but also is not nearly as sophisticated as the C-71.

Which of course means, the C-71 is a much greater value. Consider this, first of all - the C-71 is eons above and beyond the C-5 and An-124 in terms of technological sophistication, airframe refinement, system reliability, navigational capability, load, and just about everything else. For the record, a C-5B is listed at $167.7 million (C-5A at $163.4 million; as described at the C-5 page (http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/c-5.htm) on fas.org), and the An-124...well, doesn't have a list price. With all its superiority in every aspect, the C-71 is priced at $172 million - less than $10 million more in comparison with a cargo first deployed in 1969 with nearly 50 tons less cargo capability, without even going into systems and avionics.

Which means, in short, any C-5s or An-124s in your arsenal are now no longer the best.

Statistics

C-71 'Progeny'

Function: Long range strategic transport
Crew: 6
Powerplant: Four 50,120-lb dry thrust turbofan engines
Cargo capacity: 380,000-lbs
Service ceiling: 54,000-ft
Max speed: 590mph
Cruise speed: 440mph
Dimensions: Height 68ft; Length 318ft
Takeoff distance: 2,900 meters fully loaded (compare to 3697 C-5)
Landing distance: 940 meters fully loaded (compare to 1485 C-5)
Unit cost: $202 million

Similar aircraft existing today are...:

USSR/CIS An-124 'Condor'
USA C-5A/B 'Galaxy'

This aircraft would be well supplemented by...

Ampar Corp C-240 'Pallas (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=127367&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0) Medium long-range high speed cargo with tanker/ALCM variants -- ECM variant soon to come
Zoogie Aero ZaS(ZF)-27 'Firebird' Air Superiority Fighter - currently under refinement process

...also, incidentally, sold by The Zoogie People...this has been the last of corporate propoganda in this thread, we assure you.



* - Zoogiedom firmly believes in censure and political and moral correct-ness in its international relations. As such, we refrain from using language that may be termed inappropriate, and even our quotes are censored. This asterik at the bottom refers to the quote 'big-*** cargo,' mentioned somewhere in the middle. You have probably forgot about it anyways.


As usual, comments, suggestions, and reviews are welcome.
The Zoogie People
16-03-2004, 00:50
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The Zoogie People
16-03-2004, 00:52
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Verboten Lufftewaffe
16-03-2004, 01:52
Works for me...I wish to purchase 25 of them for my regional military...

How much in Troop Capacity can it carry?

$5.05B wired upon confirmation.
The Zoogie People
16-03-2004, 03:50
OOC - :x :x :x I knew I forgot something :x :x :x

Troop carriage is estimated at between 360 and 400 maximum; top deck carries 99, in comparison to 73 for the C-5 and 88 for the An-124.


Verboten Lufftewaffe -

Thank you for your order. The 25 C-71 units will be delivered as soon as possible, within one NS year. We will try to get them to you as they roll off the production lines...as an ally, we will discount your order to $4.8 billion.
Iuthia
16-03-2004, 04:41
bump and tag
Anarresa
16-03-2004, 04:45
Anarresa would like to purchace 15 C-71's. The total cost is 3.03 billion. You may deliver the aircraft at your own leisure as usual. It has been a pleasure doing buisness with you

Anarresan Minister of Defence
Alan Schezar
16-03-2004, 04:59
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Matich
16-03-2004, 06:02
We would like to purchase 5 to test them out. They look very nice. You may expect to receave a larger order later.Wireing money.
Matich
16-03-2004, 06:02
They seem to be very realistic. Good Job!
Matich
16-03-2004, 06:02
How many do you have in survice?
Matich
16-03-2004, 06:02
We would like to purchase 5 to test them out. They look very nice. You may expect to receave a larger order later.Wireing money.
Matich
16-03-2004, 06:03
We would like to purchase 5 to test them out. They look very nice. You may expect to receave a larger order later.Wireing money.
Wetland
16-03-2004, 08:38
Wetland is impressed with your airplane and wants to bu 2 of them for 404 million florins.
The Volga
16-03-2004, 08:49
The Most Serene Republic of the Volga wishes to purchase 90 of these aircraft for use in future military operations.

ooc: Hey zoogie...this is Burgundy from 1000AD
The Zoogie People
16-03-2004, 21:16
Anaressa, as a trusted ally and regional member, I will discount that down to $2.8 billion; thank you for returning yet again to Zoogiedom storefronts.

Sniper Country, your order has been confirmed at $1 billion. Thank you and we hope you enjoy.

Matich, you don't happen to wish to purchase five of them three times, would you? ;) Your order of five has been confirmed at $900 million; thank you for responding to our request to evaluate the aircraft. Currently, they have only just begun going into service and we have twelve in our own service; but the contract placed with the corporation extends to 128.

Wetland, no problem, your order has been confirmed at $400 million - we have very few diplomatic relations, although we do have exchanged embassies (correct?) and well, 404 is a very...error-prone number. Your aircraft will be en route almost immediately.

The Volga, your order has been graciously received and confirmed at $16 billion, as your order is a large one...we also remember your kindness in extending your hand (or was it Venice? Anyways, one of you) and joining alliances with the Holy Empire a thousand years earlier.
The Zoogie People
16-03-2004, 22:38
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16-03-2004, 22:57
I will purchase 5. We need to get everything that could contribute to our protection at the start. wired.
The Zoogie People
16-03-2004, 23:08
Very well, Weaponania...under normal circumstances, I would not sell to you, but I know your history...sort of...and I know you're being funded. Sorry for the quintuple post on your thread by the way, that was my puppet ;)

Weaponania, your order has been confirmed at $1.01 billion...I'm afraid this aircraft isn't for air defense, but for soldier mobilization. Nevertheless, I trust it will be useful to you.
The Volga
17-03-2004, 08:35
The $16 billion has been sent.
Wetland
17-03-2004, 08:37
The 400 million florins have been sent. You are correct we have exchanged embassies and thanks for the discount.
17-03-2004, 09:13
we believe this is very capable machine. but as we are a nomadice spacefaring nation, we do not currently have a need for earthbound transportation.
The Volga
17-03-2004, 09:14
we believe this is very capable machine. but as we are a nomadice spacefaring nation, we do not currently have a need for earthbound transportation.and you post this because?
17-03-2004, 09:18
we believe this is very capable machine. but as we are a nomadice spacefaring nation, we do not currently have a need for earthbound transportation.and you post this because?

it is VERY impressive.
Terra Pacifica
17-03-2004, 10:04
We'll like to purchase about 15 for our infantry and armoured regiments for now. We'll see how it works out.
DemonicYoshis
17-03-2004, 12:35
Id like 20 C-71 'Progenys

Money wired apon conformation
The Zoogie People
17-03-2004, 18:03
The Volga, Wetland - your respective currencies have been received and your orders processed.

Tian Union - Thanks...too bad you're future tech.

Barentsburg, your order has been confirmed and discounted to $13 billion. Thank you!

Terra Pacifica, confirmed at list price...thank you for your business.

DemonicYoshis, we are very distrustful of your government...so, denied, lest you use them on our ally Penguisiana.
Zoogiedom
17-03-2004, 18:29
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The Zoogie People
17-03-2004, 20:02
Gah! A puppet!
Scandavian States
17-03-2004, 21:19
Our MC-216 Rangers, while capable units, are about a fourth as capable as our C-220 GRAs. Such a gap is unacceptable and we need to fill it. Therefor, we would like to order 360 of your fine aircraft as medium transports. We're curious, however, as to whether or not those troops can be paras and air dropped?
Soviet Bloc
17-03-2004, 21:26
The ARSB would like to purchase twelve of these aircraft for use in our airborne assault regiments.

Money will be wired upon confirmation.
Soviet Bloc
17-03-2004, 21:28
The ARSB would like to purchase twelve of these aircraft for use in our airborne assault regiments.

Money will be wired upon confirmation.
Soviet Bloc
17-03-2004, 21:29
The ARSB would like to purchase twelve of these aircraft for use in our airborne assault regiments.

Money will be wired upon confirmation.
Soviet Bloc
17-03-2004, 21:29
The ARSB would like to purchase twelve of these aircraft for use in our airborne assault regiments.

Money will be wired upon confirmation.
The Zoogie People
17-03-2004, 22:33
Scandinavian States, no, the number is not paradropped soldiers, as this is a gigantic cargo that is larger than the C-5 and An-124...your purchase has been confirmed with an 85% discount due to size, and if you are interested in a paradroppable cargo, in a few years the C-240 medium cargo should be back on the market.

Soviet Bloc, confirmed with an 85% discount. Enjoy.
The Zoogie People
17-03-2004, 22:43
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Scandavian States
17-03-2004, 23:08
Money wired, and we'll be sure to check back when the C-240 comes onto the market.
Aanmericaa
17-03-2004, 23:15
I will take 500 of these for our own regional airforce. Money will be wired now.

*moneu wired*
The Zoogie People
17-03-2004, 23:28
Aanamerica, you have to be able to show me the source of the funds...
The Zoogie People
19-03-2004, 00:07
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The Zoogie People
19-03-2004, 00:07
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Anarresa
19-03-2004, 07:21
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Hamptonshire
19-03-2004, 07:59
We would like to purchase 50 of these fine aircraft for $10.1 billion. If the payments could be spread over multiple years, so much the better.
Aanmericaa
19-03-2004, 08:00
I would like 600 of these new airplanes. Money will be sent now.

*money wired*
Anarresa
19-03-2004, 08:19
Don't you get it? Thats a quarter of your GDP, hes not selling such large quantities to small nations
The Zoogie People
22-03-2004, 00:31
Sure thing Hamptonshire...your order is agreeable, order will be carried out for five years and so payment will be spread out for five yours. Thank you. Because they will be combined with several of our operational squadron's production, it can be discounted to $9.8 billion.
Penguisiana
22-03-2004, 03:00
prod rights?
The Zoogie People
22-03-2004, 03:01
OOC - Hamptonshire, by five NS years you will be large enough to accomodate for fifty...
The Zoogie People
22-03-2004, 03:09
In an interesting round of bargaining, we have agreed to a final price for production rights at $55 billion.

[code:1:b2b455aeda]
P | $75 billion; take it or leave it.
Z | $40 billion, and that's still a bit high.
P | $70b
Z | $40 b
P | $70b
Z | $35b
P | $75b
Z | $45 b
P | $70b
P | $65b
Z | $50b

Crickets chirp

P | $60 b
Z | $55 billion.
P | Alright.
Z | Deal.

[/code:1:b2b455aeda]
The Zoogie People
22-03-2004, 04:12
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Hamptonshire
22-03-2004, 04:19
We accept the deal the deal. We have already sent $4 billion dollars with the rest coming over the next few years.
Hamptonshire
22-03-2004, 04:19
We accept the deal. We have already sent $4 billion dollars with the rest coming over the next few years.
22-03-2004, 05:52
Dear Sirs,

Your cargo is quite impressive, indeed. We have been recently searching for more capable and newer alternatives to the C-5B. The C-71 seems to fit the bill nicely.

We wish to procure 50 planes at $10.1 Billion total. Monies will be wired automatically upon confirmation of order.

Best Regards,

General K'ung Tzu
Secretary of Military Affairs
Democratic Republic of Shang-Ti
Isselmere
22-03-2004, 05:59
The Royal Isselmere-Nieland Air Force (RINAF) would like to purchase five C-71 Progeny transports for $1.01 billion.

Thank you,
A/Cmdre Lewis Fredericks
Dgr., Aviation Directorate
Defence Procurement Agency
Ministry of Defence
United Kingdom of Isselmere-Nieland
The Zoogie People
22-03-2004, 23:42
Shang-Ti, your order has been confirmed and discounted to $9.9 billion; thank you very much.

Isselmerre,, your order has been confirmed. Good doing business with you.
The Zoogie People
24-03-2004, 23:07
OOC - On further review, my price listed for this aircraft is incorrect. Sorry!...it was the original price for another product (which I won't disclose) so I'll be changing this one...see what happens with messy handwriting?
The Zoogie People
25-03-2004, 00:24
Okay, down to $172 million...I thought something was a bit wrong with the price I had listed...
25-03-2004, 01:03
ogbogistahn would very much like to purchaise 1 of these aircraft for use as the presidential transport. we would like to enquire if it is able to be upgraded to have some kind of basic anti air missile systen (be that in the fuselage or wing) for protection while flying the president.
The Zoogie People
26-03-2004, 03:13
Alright...one aircraft. $172 million. It already comes with chaff and ECM, so don't worry about that...although, for presidential transport...this is, shall we say, huge?
The Zoogie People
02-04-2004, 02:48
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The Zoogie People
02-04-2004, 02:52
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Serengarve
02-04-2004, 04:28
(OOC: That's some good advertising, I would have RP'ed it, but I'm too lazy. :wink: )

Serengarve wishes to purchase 10 C-71 Progeny transports. The payment of $1.72 billion will be wired upon confirmation of the order.
The Zoogie People
02-04-2004, 04:36
OOC: Thanks :P

IC:

Serengarve, as our own C-71s roll off the production lines, your order of 10 of these transports will be cheaper and easier to fullfill. Being produced in a batch of 24, your order can be trimmed down to $1.64 billion...thank you for ordering at Zoogiedom Storefronts, please come again.
The Zoogie People
02-04-2004, 04:36
There definitely was nothing in this post before this.
Serengarve
02-04-2004, 05:16
Serengarve thanks The Zoogie People for the prompt service and the discount, your money has been wired.
The Zoogie People
09-04-2004, 19:06
The money has been received. Thank you.
Indon
09-04-2004, 19:21
I'll buy 10 for 2.02 billion.
The Zoogie People
09-04-2004, 19:22
We are hesitant to confirm your order because we know little of your nation...therefore, please explain more about your national policies.
Al-Sabir
09-04-2004, 19:46
To: Zoogie Aerospace
From: Mohammed El Kadi, Ministry of Defense, The Emirate of Al-Sabir
Subject: Purchase of several C-71 Progenies

The ASAF is undergoing a massive re-organisation. We want to able to deploy a whole air assault brigade anywhere in the world fast. For that, we need large transport planes. Your C-71 Progeny is perfect for that role. That's why we would like to buy:
32x C-71 Progeny
Total: $6.464.000.000

1 half will be wired immediatly after the confirmation. The other half 6 NS months later.

Sincerely,

Mohammed El Kadi
Ministry of Defense
The Emirate of Al-Sabir
09-04-2004, 19:58
Your order is confirmed at $6.4 billion. Thank you very much.
Anarresa
09-04-2004, 20:00
(that was zoogie by the way)
Al-Sabir
09-04-2004, 20:02
yeah, i see
The Zoogie People
10-04-2004, 18:16
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11-04-2004, 07:06
Dear Sirs,

Your cargo is quite impressive, indeed. We have been recently searching for more capable and newer alternatives to the C-5B. The C-71 seems to fit the bill nicely.

We wish to procure 50 planes at $10.1 Billion total. Monies will be wired automatically upon confirmation of order.

Best Regards,

General K'ung Tzu
Secretary of Military Affairs
Democratic Republic of Shang-Ti

Dear Sirs,

After having your wonderful aircraft for some time, we must say it has performed admirably in testing scenarios (Luckily we have yet to need this craft in a full conflict). To this, we wish to place a repeat order of 50 planes at $10.1 Billion total. Monies will be wired automatically upon confirmation of order.

Best Regards,

General K'ung Tzu
Secretary of Military Affairs
Democratic Republic of Shang-Ti

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The Zoogie People
14-04-2004, 00:18
Your order has been confirmed once more, and due to the size of it a contract can be made at $9.7 billion.
The Zoogie People
14-04-2004, 22:40
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The evil Pimpin midget
14-04-2004, 22:44
I would like to buy for or five of these; they look reall capable.
Alewares
14-04-2004, 23:25
Ah... now a C-71? I would like to purchase 20 to expand my carrier selection.

$4,040,000,000 will be wired.
The Zoogie People
15-04-2004, 03:14
The Zoogie People
17-04-2004, 02:13
Confirmed at $4.04 billion for Alewares.
The Zoogie People
17-04-2004, 18:30
Must...get...to...page...five...
Sir Kay the XIV
17-04-2004, 19:24
I would like to purchase 3 of the excellent looking aircraft for troop moblilization testing.Tell me the amount and the money will be wired.
GameFAQ
17-04-2004, 19:31
i would like to buy 20
The Zoogie People
17-04-2004, 23:47
Sir Kay, your order will cost you $606 million; thank you for purchasing from Zoogiedom storefronts. GameFAQ, your order has been confirmed at $3.9 billion; thank you.
18-04-2004, 00:06
The money has been wired thank you for your services you can expect me to purchase more later. I think these will be very successful in battle

StPetersburgJr
18-04-2004, 00:06
The money has been wired thank you for your services you can expect me to purchase more later. I think these will be very successful in battle

StPetersburgJr
18-04-2004, 00:47
I would like purchase 15 of these extremely useful aircraft for my nation's army.

StPetersburgJr
The Zoogie People
22-04-2004, 17:20
Your order has been confirmed at $3 billion; thank you.
Al-Sabir
22-04-2004, 17:46
The Utopia of Al-Sabir would like to procure another 32 C-71s, because we're extremely satisfied with the 32 C-71s we already have. It is an excellent replacement for the C-5.
Total: 6.464 Billion

Money will be wired upon confirmation
Universal Government
22-04-2004, 17:48
LOL. A design like that would be very faulty first consider the laws of physics and aerodynamics on a model like that.
The Zoogie People
22-04-2004, 17:48
$5 billion will be all that is necessary to double the procurement. Thank you for your decision to go with the C-71 as a C-5 replacement.
Universal Government
22-04-2004, 18:03
Besides the An-225 Cossack/Mriya is much better than this junk that you are selling.
The Zoogie People
22-04-2004, 18:06
Uh...no, it really isn't. The An-225 is a huge, huge hunk of metal designed more for launching space craft than hauling around cargo. This is an effective acargo that can actually fit on smaller runways, with a much shorter takeoff and landing distance, and has VASTLY superior electronics and combat avionics.
Universal Government
22-04-2004, 18:09
It is much bigger than your piece of junk it is the largest in thw world trust me I have been with the military and government for a long time
Al-Sabir
22-04-2004, 18:10
I agree with Zoogie, this is a fine and very useful plane. This isn't junk.
The Zoogie People
22-04-2004, 18:13
Largest in the world, so what? What's going to happen when a couple of missiles are fired at it? The C-71's countermeasures are vastly superior. And if you are looking for the largest cargo in the world, try Raysia's N/VTOLs or BWBs...(we also have a BWB slated).

This is also vsatly superior than the C-5...are you suggesting the American military is junk as well?
Universal Government
22-04-2004, 18:15
The an-225 is the largest in the world how stupid do you have to be to not know that.
The Zoogie People
03-05-2004, 03:07
So? I never said it wasn't in the real world...Raysia's not the real world.


[bumps]
[To FWS]

Not good for paras...too bloody large ;)
12-05-2004, 04:29
I want to buy 100. 10 for each paracommando regiment i wish to have.

:)
Anarresa
12-05-2004, 05:37
All Zoogie's Stores are hereby closed until the summer (probably early-mid june) Dont expect your order to be filled.