Naval Combat Exercise
Feazanthia
14-03-2004, 16:51
++Open Transmission++
Greetings, nations of the world. The Armed Republic of Feazanthia would like to test its new navy (7 ships) in a friendly combat exercise. Any nations willing to aid us in this exercise are welcome. That is all.
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Doujin is interested, more information please
Feazanthia
14-03-2004, 16:55
Our Naval forces are as followed.
2 Stingray Class Destoyers (ARFS Retribution, ARFS Salvation)
Type: Guided missile destroyer
Crew: 366
Length: 509 ft. 4 in.
Beam: 66 ft. 8 in.
Draft: 22 ft.
Displacement, light load: 6,987 tons
Displacement, full load: 9,038 tons
Speed: 30+ kt
Propulsion: 2 shafts, 4 KAC ML-112 gas turbines, providing 95,000 shp
Range: approx. 4,400 nautical miles at 20 kt
Armament: 2 KAC-M7C missile launchers with a total of 90 missiles (only 24 in the launchers at a time, the rest kept in storage until needed), 8 Harpoon missile canisters, 2 Phalanx CIWS, 1 5-inch (127mm) gun, 4 KAC-M88 vertical launch tubes, 6 324mm torpedo tubes, 1 ASW helicopter with pad and hanger
1 Poseidon-class aircraft carrier (ARFS Nirvana)
Type: nuclear-powered aircraft carrier
Crew: 5,621
Length: 1,092 ft.
Beam: 257 ft. 1 in.
Draft: 39 ft.
Displacement, light load: 77,607 tons
Displacement, full load: 98,235 tons
Speed: 31 kt
Propulsion: 4 shafts, 4 KAC NP-1A1-4F nuclear pressurized-water reactors; 4 sets of KAC ML-219 geared steam turbines; 290,000 shp
Range: N/A
Armament: 3 KAC-M7D missile launchers designed for Sea Sparrow SAMs, 3 Phalanx CIWS, 2 RAM M-12 SAM systems
2 Oliver Hazard Perry Class ASW Frigates (ARFS Indomitable, ARFS Thunderchild)
Crew: 200
Speed: 29 knots+
Length: 445ft
Room for three helos
Several missile batteries
Harpoon missile, 6 torpedo tubes, one Phalanx weapons system, 1 rapid fire MK 75 machine gun
1 Hellfire Class Heavy Cruiser (ARFS Siddharta)
Displacement: 17,000 tons
Aircraft: 4 Helos or VTOL
Machinery: G.E. Geared Turbines (4 Screws)
Speed: 33 knots
Crew: 1,700
Armament:
9 8" 55cal.
12 5" 38cal (AA)
24 3" 50cal.
24 20mm
Armor:
6" Belt
8" Turret
3 1/2" Deck
6 1/2" Conning Tower
1 Devastator-class Aircraft Carrier (ARFS Asoka)
Power Plant: Three Nuclear Power Plant (A4W Pressurized Water Reactor) Six shafts, Six propellers, with five blades each.
Length overall: 1,450 feet
Flight Deck Width: 320 feet
Beam: 180 feet
Displacement Approx: 110,000 tons full load
Speed: 25+ knots
Aircraft: 130
Aircraft elevators: 5
Catapults: 5
The following aircraft will also be used in this exercise
100 A-10 Thunderbolts
150 F-16 A Fighting Falcons
10 B-52 Stratofortress Bombers
Germanische Zustande
14-03-2004, 16:56
Are these ships space-faring or sea-faring?
Gerhart Schwinn, Minister of Armed forces
Capitol of Berlinn, Atheos, Prime World
Germanische Zustande
14-03-2004, 16:59
never mind
Feazanthia
14-03-2004, 17:00
Sea-faring.
And yes, we are still a small nation but quite proud of the ships we have pulled together in such a short time.
Tempto is willing to help in an observor capasity if you wish please explain what the exercise will entail thankyou
Minister of Foreign Affairs (Defence Office)
K. Boom
Aanmericaa
14-03-2004, 17:07
I would like to comment on the exersize at the training exersize. Is this possible to use one of our ASA battleships as an obeserving post?
Feazanthia
14-03-2004, 17:08
The exercise will entail the defense of a small harbor on an island in Feazanthian territory. The island is unihabited, and the naval base is only there for this purpose. One of the navies will be the defender, one will be the aggressor. When a ship has been successfully targeted a certain amount of times (it depends on the class of ship), that ship will be 'dead'. When a plane has been targetted once, it is 'dead' and must return to point of origin (airfields will be set up on the island for foreign planes to land).
The team that successfully forces a surrendor or destroys the opposing fleet is the victor.
Doujin will join in this exercise.
1 Lunar Class (http://www.geocities.com/doujincorp/lunar.html) Aircraft Carrier
1 Infusion Class (http://www.geocities.com/doujincorp/infusion.html) Aircraft Carrier
2 Thatcher Class Destroyers (http://www.geocities.com/doujincorp/thatcher.html)
1 Doujin Class BB(information classified)
2 Defiance Class Frigates
Aircraft on the Infusion Class
35 RF-11
35 DD-3 Sabertooth
5 E2-D Hawkeye
5 AC-150 Tankers
10 DD-2 Infiniti
10 ASW Sea King Helicopters
Aircraft on the Lunar Class
35 RF-11
35 DD-3 Sabertooth
5 S-3C Vikings
10 ASW Sea King Helicopters
10 DD-2 Infiniti
2 C2-A Greyhounds
3 E2-D Hawkeye
5 EA-6B Prowlers
Feazanthia
14-03-2004, 17:25
Feazanthia is honored to host the Corporate States of Doujin for this exercise. Would you prefer to be the aggressor or the defender?
The Doujin Class BB is 421.3 meters in length.. it would be kind of hard to operate it in a small harbor
Feazanthia
14-03-2004, 17:32
Very well. You shall be the aggressor. Task Force Bravo is being commanded by Admiral James T. Wallace and is already on-station, awaiting your arrival.
We are dispatching the ships now, they should be there shortly
Feazanthia
14-03-2004, 17:39
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Location: Feazanthia, Roubhe Region
Island 623
Co-ordinates classified
The ARFS Siddharta trained its main guns towards the entrance of the harbor as the Asoka and Nirvana prepared to launch its fighters.
They would be here soon.
Aboard the DN Eden
Ensign, contact HQ. Tell them to dispatch a couple DD-1B Survailance planes to us, we need info
Feazanthia
14-03-2004, 18:08
"Contact! Bearing 315! Doujin class battleship! It's the Eden sir!"
Wallace slammed his fist down on the control panel.
"All ships, prepare to repel attackers! All hands to battlestations! This is not a drill. I repeat, this is not a drill."
The F-16s aboard the Asoka launched, filling the air with planes.
Phoenixius
14-03-2004, 18:22
"General, please launch one of our spy planes to observe the naval activity around Feazanthia. Report any interesting findings."
"Yes Sir."
Aboard the DN Eden
"Admiral, we have radar contact. Bogies in the air."
"Get me Captain Repint."
"Yes, Sir"
"Captain, this is the Admiral. We have multiple bogies in the air. Launch all fighters and prepare for a dogfight. We are bringing the Eden away from the harbor, to a distance of 70 km, and then we will begin bombardment."
"Aye, sir. Launching fighters."
An alarm sounds aboard the Helix. Flight teams rush to their positions, launching 70 RF-11 Fighters, 70 DD-3 Fighters, and 10 DD-2 Fighter/Bombers in the air. 2 E2-D Hawkeyes take off to monitor the entire situation, even though the APAR 12 system aboard the Doujin can do the same job.
Feazanthia
14-03-2004, 18:36
The eight inch deck guns of the Siddharta swiveled and targetted the Eden. They "fired".
The Retribution and Salvation "launched" their KAC-M7C missiles at the Infusion class aircraft carrier.
The F-16As sped towards the encroaching RF-11 and DD-3 fighters.
The A-10 Thunderbolts launched. They were armed with AA weapons.
Dancing Moose
14-03-2004, 18:50
Tag
"Eagle-9, bring yourself about heading 134."
"Roger that."
All of a sudden, a loud sound was heard.. like an artillery shell coming down. The shell collided with the RF-11 fighter jet, in a 1/1,000,000,000 freak chance hit. The Eden, now at the edge of Feazanthia's ships weapons range, turned her massive 16 22" Electro-Thermal Naval Guns towards the Siddharta.
"Computer identifying threat, sir. Coordinates being fed to the weapons systems. Guns firing in 3...2....1..."
"BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM"
The large Trimaran Battleship shook as their huge guns started their assault on the Siddharta.
Several missiles quickly approaching the Hunley were detected. The computers automatic defense system activated the RAM, firing the anti-missile missiles. A cloud of chaff was launched into the air, and the ships 6 20mm Phalanx 6-barrelled Mk 15 close-in weapon systems came to life, firing at the missilse.. all but one was destroyed, which continued onto the ship and hit it's startboard hull. The ship remained structurally intact, thanks to its trimaran design.
Feazanthia
14-03-2004, 19:58
"All ships, evasive manuevers! Concentrate fire on that battleship! GET THOSE BOMBERS INTO THE AIR NOW!"
The 10 B-52 Stratofortress bombers departed from the Nirvana and headed high into the air, trying to get above the fighters.
The Siddharta shook from the impact of the Eden's guns.
"GIVE THEM A BROADSIDE, ALL GUNS FIRE!"
The Siddharta turned and fired all 9 of its 8" guns, 24 5" guns, and even its 24 20mm guns at the Eden.
The Retribution and the Salvation each let loose with their single 5" cannon, also aimed at the Eden.
The Indomitable and the Thunderchild began firing with their MK 75 heavy machine guns at the encroaching fighters.
Dancing Moose
14-03-2004, 20:25
This looks to good to pass up. If it is possible, I would like to enter the war game on Feazanthia's side. If this is ok, I will post my navy and so forth.
"Change heading, bearing mark 351. Take us out, 90 km away from the harbor. Take us out of their gun range. And order those damn fighters back! Keep them over the ships, where they can have AA protection. Let the BB do the work bombarding, protect the Eden."((Remember, this BB has 16 22" guns, your biggest is 8".. so you do have a limited range..))
Meanwhile, abord the DN Fesarius
"Captain, the DN Helix got hit by a KAC-M7C missile."
"Is it bad?"
"No, sir, they are fine. Damage to the starboard hull, but the missile didn't go deep."
"Ok, ready the Egap's. I want you to launch an entire salvo at that there Salvation"
"Yes, sir."
The Fesarius' 2 Mk. 41 32 cell VLS opened their doors, along with it's 48 cell VLS.. and fired 112 Egap Anti-Ship missiles at the Salvation
Feazanthia
14-03-2004, 21:13
As soon as the Fesarius launched its missiles, a massive amount of Anti-air fire filled the air. The planes headed back towards the carriers as the Nirvana let loose with its SAM sites at the approaching missiles. The Salvation and the Retribution also fired their SM-2 SAMs. Still, about 18 missiles got through. The Salvation was out of the fight.
Aboard the Siddharta
"Admiral! They got the Salvation!"
"Goddamnit! I want a full volley from the Retribution. GET US CLOSER, ENSIGN!"
A full volley of 24 missiles launched from the Retribution, aimed at the Fesarius. Task Force Bravo began moving towards the entrance of the harbor at a steady 33 knots. As soon as they were in range, the Siddharta opened fire once more at the Eden.
"C'mon, you coward. Fight me like a man."
((OOC-I have no problem with it if Doujin doesn't, Moose))
Fine with me, as long as I can bring in an equal number of ships that he brings in as reinforcement.
On board the Unterling they followed the battle with great interest. The submarine was sent with the intent to gather information on the capabilities of the Feazanthian and Doujin fleets. So far captain Melek was impressed and wondered how long the defenders would last.
OOC: nice way to tag a threat don't you think.
As soon as the Fesarius launched its missiles, a massive amount of Anti-air fire filled the air. The planes headed back towards the carriers as the Nirvana let loose with its SAM sites at the approaching missiles. The Salvation and the Retribution also fired their SM-2 SAMs. Still, about 18 missiles got through. The Salvation was out of the fight.
Aboard the Siddharta
"Admiral! They got the Salvation!"
"Goddamnit! I want a full volley from the Retribution. GET US CLOSER, ENSIGN!"
A full volley of 24 missiles launched from the Retribution, aimed at the Fesarius. Task Force Bravo began moving towards the entrance of the harbor at a steady 33 knots. As soon as they were in range, the Siddharta opened fire once more at the Eden.
"C'mon, you coward. Fight me like a man."
((OOC-I have no problem with it if Doujin doesn't, Moose))
Range on a 5" naval gun = 20 km
Range on a 8" naval gun = 30 km
Range on a 22" etc = 80 or so KM, without using "scramjet rounds"
with scramjet rounds.. well.. lets just say this, a 16" gun firing a scramjet round straight up could reach the exoatmosphere.. and scramjet rounds travel at about.. what, mach 7.1?
Feazanthia
14-03-2004, 22:54
OOC-Oh boo frickity hoo. I don't care how fast your ship is, it can't move 50km that fast. I can still shoot it.
didn't say it was moving that fast :P Just letting you know the ranges
Feazanthia
14-03-2004, 23:10
OOC-Alright. Now, just post. BTW, instead of moose-boy, my ally just bought his navy and wants to try it out. He'll post the stuff in a sec (he's at my house).
That's fine with me.. just be careful, if hes in the UN and you have another nation both could be removed...
IC:
THe 24 KAC-M7C stood no chance against the Eden's superior anti-missile counter-measure system, however the same can't be said for the fire from the Siddharta. Although light and less powerful, the several volleys hit the Eden broadside, rendering one of the 22" gun mounts unuseable. However, the rounds were far from being able to penetrate the Doujin's thick armoured hull, and she still floats. The remaining mounts returned fire, this time using ScramJet rounds, each round heading towards the Siddharta at Mach 7+..
Meanwhile, a squadron of 12 DD-3's dived and skimmed the sea, heading straight for the Retribution, arming their anti-ship weapons, they prepared to fire. 1 KM out, they released their payload, 48 anti-ship missiles came to life, headed directly towards the Retribution
The fighters pulled out, and then tragedy happened. Four of the 12 planes got hit by machine gun fire from the Indomitable and the Thunderchild. The other 8, dodging machine gun and missile fire, made it back relatively safe.. 2 getting hit by machine gun fire from enemy planes.
((The DN Eden is the biggest battleship in my navy.. at the moment, and her armor is pretty damn thick.. your best bet would probably be to take out the two thatchers before they do their damage.. each can launch what.. 112 missiles? -.-))
Valiant Admiral Scratchandsniff stood at the bow of the Aziraphale as it sailed through the inlet to the harbor being inhabited by Feazanthian forces.
Total Kzich forces in the area:
2 Iowa Class Battleships (Durotan, Aziraphale)
1 Seawolf Class Submarine (Icarus)
2 Poseidon-class aircraft carrier (Arthas, Thrall)
Orca-class attack submarine (Crowley)
150 CF-18 Hornets
50 B-52 Stratofortresses
The 16'' guns of the Durotan and the Aziraphale were loaded and shot at the Eden of the Doujin Fleet.
The Crowley dove underneath the waves and was virtually undetectible to the human eye.
Aircraft carriers Thrall and Arthas, harboring 150 Hornets and 50 Stratofortresses sailed into the harbor as well.
Kzich, you need to give a little more notice than that.. you can't just appear out of no where in the middle of a firefight and attack :p
Doujin Vessels en route:
DN Horation - Mackensen Class Battleship (http://www.geocities.com/doujincorp/mackensen.html)
DN Anoit - Doujin Class Battleship
DN Hunt - Doujin Class Battleship
DN Reliant - Lunar Class Aircraft Carrier (http://www.geocities.com/doujincorp/lunar.html)
DN Solar - Lunar Class Aircraft Carrier (http://www.geocities.com/doujincorp/lunar.html)
DN Malinche - Astron Class Fast Attack Submarine (http://www.geocities.com/doujincorp/astron.html)
DN Trieste - Astron Class Fast Attack Submarine (http://www.geocities.com/doujincorp/astron.html)
Aircraft total coming in: 70 RF-11, 70 DD-3, 20 DD-2, and umm couple other misc. crafts, id have to scroll back and look and dont wanna do it.. double the configuration stated before for the Lunar.
Oh, and Kzich.. I couldn't thank you enough. You all thought that the Seawolf was quiet.. well my astron is the -quietest- sub in the world.. well, next to the warspite..
:arrow: waiting for reply
Feazanthia
15-03-2004, 03:13
OOC-Yeah, well, you haven't responded to Kzich's attack. Oh, and that's 24 MISSILES. It's not a system. It's a number.
"Admiral Scratchandsniff, it's good to see you. Glad you could make it to our little war game."
The anti-air weapons shot down all but five of the missiles, which impacted on the armor of the Retribution, causing only miniscule damage. The Siddharta then trained its main guns on the Fesarius, firing all of its guns.
"Take out those support craft. Without the smaller ships, those battleships don't stand a chance. All frigates, begin moving in to engage those destroyers. I don't want anything getting through."
I didn't respond because ships don't just pop up out of thin air, he needs to "approach" first - i would have gotten the first shot off if he was coming in
Feazanthia
15-03-2004, 03:38
OOC-He used an inlet to the harbor. Just go with it. You get your reinforcements, I get my ally.
Alarms go off aboard the Eden as it shakes and moans under the barrage by the new foes. Nearly 100 crewmen were either killed or injured, and a 4 of the 10 5" guns were destroyed.. yet she still floats, thank the brilliant designers of the Doujin.
(The Doujin class is heavily armored, hell the Bismarck took a crapload of fire and survived for hours before being sunk by an anti-ship missile I believe.. or torpedo.. something like that, comparitavely if an Iowa class was under the same barrage, it probably wouldn't have survived.. its armor wasn't/still isn't as thick)
"Ensign, Damage report!"
"71 dead, 27 wounded.. and 2 5" gun mounts have been destroyed"
"Aim all remaining guns at the lead ship, the Aziraphale. Take it out.. any means necessary.. Send 24 DD-3's to take it out.. order 3 to crash into the command tower.. planes have an eject button for a reason."
"Yes, sir."
24 DD-3's screach toward their target, skimming the sea to avoid attack by anti-air missiles. Closing in, 500 meters away they released their payloads, and continued on, flying right over it.. except for the three which headed on a collision coarse to the Aziraphale's command tower. The pilots, 50 m away from the command tower, ejected - hoping they would survive.
Aboard the DN Galileo
"Captain.."
"My god..."
"Captain, the DN Fesarius has been "sunk".."
"Retaliate, target the Retribution, launch two volleys of missiles at her.."
"But sir, that would almost deplete our missile supply.."
"Question my orders again, Ensign, and I will have you cleaning up the gun barrels with a toothbrush."
"Understood, sir."
Dancing Moose
15-03-2004, 05:04
OOC: If there is any chance of me still playing on either of your sides then I will take it, here is what I will send (for future reference) if I get to play:
First Battlegroup:
1 Black Pearl Carrier (DMN Graceland)
1 Indomitable Class Super Battleship (DMN Seydlitz)
2 Great Lakes Class Battleships (DMN Barham, DMN Moltke)
1 Hellfire Heavy Cruiser (DMN Serene)
3 Ticonderoga Guided Missile Cruisers (DMN Jack Frost, DMN Tundra, DMN Margraf)
2 NightStalker Class Guided Missile Destroyers (DMN Sujo, DMN Nelson)
10 Amundsen Class Destroyers (DMN Amundsen, Z-53, Z-54, Z-43, Z-75, Z-64, Z-62, Z-57, Z-23, Z-50)
2 Arsenal Stealth Ships (DMN Siren, DMN Furious)
5 Visby Class Corvettes (H-7, H-3, H-10, H-1, H-5)
3 Seawolf Class Subs (DMN Night Stalker, DMN Remington, DMN Perdition)
1 Special Operations Sub-Seahorse Class (DMN Thompson)
1 Sub Tender (S-3)
1 Fleet Auxiliary (AU-22)
1st Fast Assault Group:
3 Spruance Class Destroyers (DMN Vernon, DMN Tombstone, DMN Reservoir)
3 Visby Corvettes (H-42, H-57, H-6)
5 Weathered Class Torpedo Boats (TB-1, TB-4, TB-8, TB-11, TB-14)
3 Pegasus Class PT Boats (PT-105, PT-74, PT-142)
3 LA Class Attack Subs (DMN Leyte, DMN Okinawa, DMN Congo)
Second Battlegroup:
2 Nimitz Stealth Carriers (DMN Inertia, DMN Tuscon)
1 Huron Class Command Ship/Battlecruiser (DMN Malaya)
2 Indomitable Class Super Battleships (DMN Indomitable, DMN Indefatigable)
3 Ticonderoga Guided Missile Cruisers (DMN Cabot, DMN Swordfish, DMN Renown)
2 Zumwalt Class Destroyers (DMN Maya, DMN Bayern)
10 Amundsen Class Destroyers (DMN Z-84, Z-87, Z-95, Z-96, Z-102, Z-15, Z-120, Z-114, Z-99, Z-2)
5 Arsenal Class Stealth Ships (DMN Trix, DMN Hydra, DMN Wivern DMN Baden, DMN Rebel)
5 Visby Corvettes (H-27, H-15, H-75, H-92, H-86)
2 Weathered Class Torpedo Boats (TB-23, TB-55, TB-17)
4 Pegasus Class PT Boats (PT-57, PT-10, PT-22, PT-4)
3 Seawolf Class Subs (DMN Dawn, DMN Cascade, DMN Vertigo)
3 LA Class Attack Subs (DMN Revolution, DMN Bounty, DMN Anchorage)
2 Sub Tenders (S-15, S-4)
1 Fleet Auxiliary (AU-47)
2nd Fast Assualt Group
1 Hellfire Class Heavy Cruiser (DMN Derfflinger)
3 Amundsen Class Destroyers (Z-172, Z-101, Z-163)
2 NightStalker Class Guided Missile Destroyers (DMN Sydra, DMN Badger)
5 Pegasus Class PT Boats (PT-111, PT-1, PT-3, PT-157, PT-104)
2 LA Class Attack Subs (DMN Patriot, DMN Exocet)
I would really love to do this but it looks like the 'teams' are pretty evenly sided. Thanks.
The NF SSGN High Rider aprochs the Feazanthia fleet. it luchs 2 Tactical Tomahawk land attack missiles wich are duds at the air fileds on the Island. Eden cummander Pasco radios in on all frequncys we will try to be of survice to you in any way possible.
ooc sorry about the spelling. :)
The Freethinkers
15-03-2004, 06:07
OOC: Mindif I join in?
The Freethinkers
15-03-2004, 06:11
(The Doujin class is heavily armored, hell the Bismarck took a crapload of fire and survived for hours before being sunk by an anti-ship missile I believe.. or torpedo.. something like that, comparitavely if an Iowa class was under the same barrage, it probably wouldn't have survived.. its armor wasn't/still isn't as thick)
OOC: Did they have those back then ;)
The Bismarck survived afloat after roughly fifty impacts from 15" and 16" shells, although she was "neutralised". She was sunk by a torpedo from a Cruiser.
Relative armour thickness and structural intergrity are th emost important factors to consider.
"Sir, another fleet has arrived and we are picking up another one coming."
The seas around the island were beginning to get a bit to crowded to Meleks taste.
But changing position ment turning on the engines and that would certainly mean discovery. For now they would have to wait.
Feazanthia
15-03-2004, 13:30
OOC-Moose, you can only join if Doujin has the forces to match yours (power wise, not numbers). Other than that, I'm fine. Also, the airfields are for the 'dead' planes to land on.
Feazanthia
15-03-2004, 14:48
Aboard the Retribution
"Captain, incoming missiles! They have hard lock!"
"Damn, fire those SAMs, ensign! We HAVE to minimize damage!"
The AA guns screamed as the gun crews tried to take out the missiles. They still impacted. The Retribution was 'sunk'.
But Feazanthia, number wise would be awesome! :lol:
If Dancing Moose comes in, I bring in:
DN Reliant - Lunar Class Stealth Aircraft Carrier (http://www.geocities.com/doujincorp/Lunar.html)
DN Behemoth - Leviathon Class BB (http://www.geocities.com/doujincorp/leviathon.html)
Mackensen ClassBB
DN Atlas - Mackensen Class BB (http://www.geocities.com/doujincorp/mackensen.html)
DNDominant - Mackensen Class BB (http://www.geocities.com/doujincorp/mackensen.html)
DN Gemini - Meteora Class Guided Missile Cruiser (http://www.geocities.com/doujincorp/meteroa.html)
DN Kataan - Meteora Class Guided Missile Cruiser (http://www.geocities.com/doujincorp/meteroa.html)
DN Tribunal - Meteora Class Guided Missile Cruiser (http://www.geocities.com/doujincorp/meteroa.html)
DN Effective -
DN Escape - Thatcher Class Destroyer (http://www.geocities.com/doujincorp/thatcher.html)
DN Jupiter - Zumwalt Class Destroyer (http://www.geocities.com/doujincorp/zumwalt.html)
DN Relentless - Zumwalt Class Destroyer (http://www.geocities.com/doujincorp/zumwalt.html)
DN Stargazer - Zumwalt Class Destroyer (http://www.geocities.com/doujincorp/zumwalt.html)
DN Drake - Zumwalt Class Destroyer (http://www.geocities.com/doujincorp/zumwalt.html)
DN Nobel - Zumwalt Class Destroyer (http://www.geocities.com/doujincorp/zumwalt.html)
DN Lakota - Zumwalt Class Destroyer (http://www.geocities.com/doujincorp/zumwalt.html)
DN Hurricane - Zumwalt Class Destroyer (http://www.geocities.com/doujincorp/zumwalt.html)
DN -
DN -
DN -
DN -
DN -
DN -
DN -
DN -
ok, moose.. I want you to cut that fleet down a bit.. I don't want to have to drag out my notebook and bring out awhole crapload of ships for no reason :P
Dancing Moose
16-03-2004, 00:48
Aww... come on... that took alot of time gettin all that stuff together.
"It's good to be here, Admiral. I'm looking forward to testing out the Kingdom's new armada." Scratchandsniff saluted, then turned to his crew immediately as he saw the missiles and kamikazi fighters.
"Take those things out!" The AA guns were fired, blowing apart two of the three planes aimed at the control tower. 17 missiles were blown apart before hitting the Aziraphale, and the four that hit caused minimal damage to the battleship, rocking it over the waves.
The fighter that rammed into the control tower was incinerated, but not much damage was taken by the ship.
The Thrall deployed its air forces of 150 Hornets to the skies, but they remained inoffensive in the air.
The Aziraphale and Durotan returned fire at the Eden as quickly as possible.
ok, sorry, but an an aircraft ramming into a ship at mach one plus jet fuel would do moderate damage.. at the least.. especially if its an iowa class
Moose: Does it look like I care? :P Take out the Second Battlegroup
Dancing Moose
16-03-2004, 23:21
Ok, here is what im sending:
First Battlegroup:
1 Stealth Modified Nimitz Class Carrier (DMN Graceland)
2 Indomitable Class Super Battleship (DMN Indomitable, DMN Indefatigable)
1 Great Lakes Class Battleships (DMN Barham)
1 Hellfire Heavy Cruiser (DMN Marlborough)
3 Ticonderoga Guided Missile Cruisers (DMN Jack Frost, DMN Tundra, DMN Derfflinger)
2 NightStalker Class Guided Missile Destroyers (DMN Sujo, DMN Nelson)
10 Amundsen Class Destroyers (DMN Amundsen, Z-53, Z-54, Z-43, Z-75, Z-64, Z-62, Z-57, Z-23, Z-50)
2 Arsenal Stealth Ships (DMN Siren, DMN Furious)
5 Visby Class Corvettes (H-7, H-3, H-10, H-1, H-5)
3 Seawolf Class Subs (DMN Night Stalker, DMN Remington, DMN Perdition)
1 Special Operations Sub-Seahorse Class (DMN Thompson)
1 Sub Tender (S-3)
1 Fleet Auxiliary (AU-22)
1st Fast Assault Group:
3 Spruance Class Destroyers (DMN Vernon, DMN Tombstone, DMN Reservoir)
3 Visby Corvettes (H-42, H-57, H-6)
5 Weathered Class Torpedo Boats (TB-1, TB-4, TB-8, TB-11, TB-14)
3 Pegasus Class PT Boats (PT-105, PT-74, PT-142)
3 LA Class Attack Subs (DMN Leyte, DMN Okinawa, DMN Congo)
Also, would you like me to not send the 2nd Fast Assualt group also?
Dancing Moose
17-03-2004, 02:10
Dancing Moose
17-03-2004, 02:11
IC:
Fleet Admiral Ross stared at the calm sea from the bridge of his brand new super battleship, the DMN Indomitable. His battlegroup was nearing Feazanthia's and would soon come to action stations, as Doujins fleet was also not far away.
He signaled Admiral Sagumo in the DMN Reservoir to lead the 1st Fast Assualt group ahead of the fleet to scout for enemy ships.
Dancing Moose
17-03-2004, 02:30
OOC: Like the Doujin class battleship, the Indomitable class is also a Dancing Moose original design, and the specifications are being withheld at the moment although Feazanthia, who is a new ally of mine (thanks to one of his fellow nations) is entitled to see them if he wishes.
I am entering the exercise with this fleet
3 Halsey class carriers.
These have AEGIS II systems, and Harpoon missiles
Each carrier has:
75 F-35B JSF (stealth)
8 SH-60F Seahawk ASW and SAR copters
4 E-2 AWACS
8 S-3 viking ASW and tanker
4 EA6B Prowler electronic warfare planes
10 Ticonderoga class AEGIS cruisers (check navy website for data)
17 Arleigh Burke DDG-51 class Destroyers
5 Spruance class DD's
4 Perry class FFGs
6 fleet supply ships
4 Seawolf class SSNs with TLAM and TASM
8 688i class (Los Angeles improved) SSN
All surface ships with exception to carriers are US Navy type and have details on navy.mil
USS Halsey- launching AWACs sending down bearings of Secondary directions then moving cardinal. Radars are up on the birds, but ships are on standbye to avoid detection. A squadron (12) F-35B's is by each AWACS. They have 2AAM-54C phoenixs, 2 AAMRAMS, and 2 Sidewinders each, plus 3 Harpoons and a HARM.
We are dispatching our Seawolves and 2 688i's away from the fleet for private hunting and recon.
I am entering the exercise with this fleet
3 Halsey class carriers.
These have AEGIS II systems, and Harpoon missiles
Each carrier has:
75 F-35B JSF (stealth)
8 SH-60F Seahawk ASW and SAR copters
4 E-2 AWACS
8 S-3 viking ASW and tanker
4 EA6B Prowler electronic warfare planes
10 Ticonderoga class AEGIS cruisers (check navy website for data)
17 Arleigh Burke DDG-51 class Destroyers
5 Spruance class DD's
4 Perry class FFGs
6 fleet supply ships
4 Seawolf class SSNs with TLAM and TASM
8 688i class (Los Angeles improved) SSN
All surface ships with exception to carriers are US Navy type and have details on navy.mil
USS Halsey- launching AWACs sending down bearings of Secondary directions then moving cardinal. Radars are up on the birds, but ships are on standbye to avoid detection. A squadron (12) F-35B's is by each AWACS. They have 2AAM-54C phoenixs, 2 AAMRAMS, and 2 Sidewinders each, plus 3 Harpoons and a HARM.
We are dispatching our Seawolves and 2 688i's away from the fleet for private hunting and recon.
This is BigBird 2 we have Doujin's battlegroup on radar. Our F-35B's are lighting up weapons radars. HARM missiles launching to take out radar, 36 harpoon anti-ship missiles have been launched. Range is 50 miles. Flight time is 6 minutes. (awaiting results of exercise missiles for simulated damage) Our carriers are launching an additional squadron each for possible back up attack
This is BigBird 2 we have Doujin's battlegroup on radar. Our F-35B's are lighting up weapons radars. HARM missiles launching to take out radar, 36 harpoon anti-ship missiles have been launched. Range is 50 miles. Flight time is 6 minutes. (awaiting results of exercise missiles for simulated damage) Our carriers are launching an additional squadron each for possible back up attack
Greetings I would like to enter this excercise. We have a battle hardened fleet that has not seen action in a while and I have been looking for an excercise to test this fleet. I'm on a different computer right now, but in a few minutes I will be able to post the ships in this fleet.
Dancing Moose
17-03-2004, 04:02
IC:
Sirens blared aboard the Indomitable as the ship went to battlestations. Just 30 minutes before, everything had been perfectly normal. The men had just started getting ready to hit the sack, when general quarters was sounded. Admiral Ross, who had been patiently waiting in the control room for something to happen, calmly stood when the radar control ensign leaped from his seat.
Ross: Yes Ensign?
Ensign: Sir, radar indicates the enemy fleet is about 275 miles away heading northwest.
Ross: Is this certain?
Ensign: Yes, sir, an exact satellite fix.
Ross: Very well. And what of Feazanthia's fleet?
Ensign: We are closing fast on their postion. Hmm, lets see... 150 miles.... about 45 minutes sir before visual contact.
Ross: Good job, Ensign Harris. You keep this up, and first radar lieutinant is yours.
Ensign Harris: Thank you sir.
Ross walks back and leans on the control room table. 1st Gunnery Lieutinant Jack Farlow walks in and quietly starts talking.
Ross: Yes?
Farlow: Sir, I have calcultated a firing solution on the flagship of Doujin's fleet, when we catch up.
Ross: Very well, how strong?
Farlow: Harpoons and Tomahawks, pretty damn strong. Also sir, if we slow them with missile fire we will have the range to use the 18 inch guns, if it comes to that.
Ross: Alright. I want your men under high alert. Wait for word from me, and then unleash hell. Understood?
Farlow (with a grin): Understood sir.
OOC: Opening shots to come.
Ok here is my fleet that I will be sending in:
1 Indomitable Class Super Battleship (WIN Ajax)
1 Ultor Class Super Carrier (WIN Cerberus)
Aircraft:
3 E2-C Hawkeyes
35 F-14 Tomcats
25 F/A-18 Super Hornets
20 Archangels
20 ASW Sea King Helicopters
10 F-117 Nighthawks
2 Modified Arctic Subsiders
2 Elessar Class Super Carriers (WIN Hydra, WIN Scylla)
Aircraft Per Carrier:
3 E2-C Hawkeyes
30 F-14 Tomcats
20 F/A-18 Super Hornets
20 Archangels
15 ASW Sea King Helicopters
10 F-117 Nighthawks
2 Nimitz Class Carriers (WIN Styx, WIN Lethe)
Aircraft Per Carrier:
20 Archangels
20 F/A-18 Hornets
20 F-14 Tomcats
5 E2-C Hawkeye
5 AC-150 Tankers
10 F-117 Nighthawks
2 Lancer Class Destroyer-Dreadnaught
5Amundsen Class Destroyers
2 Norad Class Super Battleship
4 SeaSquid Class Nuclear Attack Submarine
Aircraft Per Sub:
1 AH-220 attack helicopter
1 SH-65A Dolphin
4 Hellfire Heavy Cruisers
2 Hospital Ships
4 Los Angeles Class Attack Subs
4 Seawolf Class Subs 4 Ohio Class SSBN's
4 Virginia Class NSSN's
25 Hover Patrol Boats
25 Pegasus Patrol Craft
2 Avenger Class Minesweepers
4 Ticonderoga Class Guided Missile Cruisers
2 Zumwalt Destroyers
4 Fleet Defense Catamarans
6 Arleigh Burke AEGIS Destroyers
2 Iowa Class Battleships
6 Oliver Hazard Perry Class ASW Frigates
4 Weathered Class Torpedo Boats
2 Sea Shadow Assault Ships
2 Arsenal Ships
8 Visby Class Corvettes
4 AOE-6 Combat Logistic Ships
In case your stupid WIN means Wazican Imperial Navy, not like i'm going to win.
These forces have been deployed to assist Feazanthia and Dancing Moose.
Shit sorry about that I was logged on as one of my colonies. Once again sorry about that. Also please note that is the ENTIRE white fleet, with all support ships. This is all we could send due to rebelions in some of our African colonies. Also if this is to many ships than I will limit the number and have some kindof sit on the sidelines so to speak.
With regret, the Thunder Child battleship DN Eden has been recalled, along with the rest of the battlegroup in the excercise.
OOC: The DN Eden was recalled to be rechristened the "Thunder Child Class". More information will be released IC to those who are able to attend the conference aboard the DN Behemoth.
Feazanthia
17-03-2004, 14:06
OOC:WTF? First, you kick me out of the conferance. Next, you cancel my exercise. This just aint fair, mate.
I found Freezanthia fleet. We are launching 50 TASM cruise missiles and planes and ships are firing 75 Harpoons and 25 HARMS to destroy radar, the Fleet-ex continues
Oh, so you want me to play huh? Well, I'll then bring in 1 battlegroup with another on its way.
Doujin Naval Battlegroup Invasus
DN Solar - Lunar Class Aircraft Carrier
DN Lunar - Lunar Class Aircraft Carrier
DN Helix - Lunar Class Aircraft Carrier
DN Reliant - Lunar Class Aircraft Carrier
DN Infusion - Infusion Class Aircraft Carrier
DN Sync - Infusion Class Aircraft Carrier
DN Gage - Infusion Class Carrier
DN Galidor - Infusion Class Carrier
DN Karema - Infusion Class Aircraft Carrier
DN Repulse - Infusion Class Aircraft Carrier
DN Humphreys - Infusion Class Aircraft Carrier
DN Hunley - Infusion Class Aircraft Carrier
DN Leviathon - Leviathon Class Battleship
DN Thunder Child - Thunder Child Class Battleship
DN Eden - Thunder Child Class Battleship
DN Anoit - Thunder ChildClass Battleship
DN Hunt - Thunder Child Class Battleship
DN Red Cross - Hospital Ship
DN Thistle - Hospital Ship
DN Sarek - Hospital Ship
DN Rubicon - Hospital Ship
DN Nebula - Nebula Class AEGIS Destroyer
DN Antares - Nebula Class AEGIS Destroyer
DN Aeon - Nebula Class AEGIS Destroyer
DN Aries - Nebula Class AEGIS Destroyer
DN Adelphi - Nebula Class AEGIS Destroyer
DN Liberty - Nebula Class AEGIS Destroyer
DN Hawking - Nebula Class AEGIS Destroyer
DN Sitak - Nebula Class AEGIS Destroyer
DN Sovereign - Nebula Class AEGIS Destroyer
DN Hornet - Nebula Class AEGIS Destroyer
DN Tsiolkovsky - Nebula Class AEGIS Destroyer
DN Soyuz - Nebula Class AEGIS Destroyer
DN Kearsarge - Sea Horse Class FAS
DN Odin - Sea Horse Class FAS
DN HUrst - Sea Wolf Class FAS
DN Huse - Sea Wolf Class FAS
DN Hyades - Sea Wolf Class FAS
DN Hyde - Sea Wolf Class FAS
DN Valjean - Seawolf Class FAS
DN Kitara - Seawolf Class FAS
DN Akira - Seawolf Class FAS
DN Maymora - Seawolf Class FAS
DN Potemkin - Sea Wolf Class FAS
DN Destiny - Sea Wolf Class FAS
DN Tolstoy - Seawolf Class FAS
DN Grissom - Seawolf Class FAS
DN Intrepid - Seawolf Class FAS
DN Zhukov - Seawolf Class FAS
DN Hyman G. Rickover - Astron Class FAS
DN Pecatonica - Astron Class FAS
DN Peconic - Astron Class FAS
DN Pecos - Astron Class FAS
DN Thor - Astron Class FAS
DN Trieste - Astron Class FAS
DN Tolstoy - Astron Class FAS
DN Essex - Astron Class FAS
DN Magellan - Astron Class FAS
DN Malinche - Astron Class FAS
DN Marauder - Astron Class FAS
DN Shenandoah - Astron Class FAS
DN Goddard - Astron Class FAS
DN Lexington - Astron Class FAS
DN Lalo - Astron Class FAS
DN Hideki - Astron Class FAS
DN Audacious - Warspite Class SSBN
DN Beacon - Warspite Class SSBN
DN Loyalty - Warspite Class SSBN
DN Trial - Warspite Class SSBN
DN Deep Angel - Warspite Class SSBN
DN Seleya - Warspite Class SSBN
DN Impulse - Warspite Class SSBN
DN Horizon - Warspite Class SSBN
DN Tribunal - Meteora Class Guided Missile Cruiser
DN Sepulo - Meteora Class Guided Missile Cruiser
DN Hera - Meteora Class Guided Missile Cruiser
DN Ice - Meteora Class Guided Missile Cruiser
DN Merrimack - Meteora Class Guided Missile Cruiser
DN Kataan - Meteora Class Guided Missile Cruiser
DN Olympia - Meteora Class Guided Missile Cruiser
DN LaSalle - Meteora Class Guided Missile Cruiser
DN Vigor - Meteora Class Guided Missile Cruiser
DN Gemini - Meteora Class Guided Missile Cruiser
DN Olympia - Meteora Class Guided Missile Cruiser
DN Velocity - Meteora Class Guided Missile Cruiser
DN Quick - Meteora Class Guided Missile Cruiser
DN Quillback - Meteora Class Guided Missile Cruiser
DN Quincy - Meteora Class Guided Missile Cruiser
DN Quirinus - Meteora Class Guided Missile Cruiser
DN Jupiter - Zumwalt Destroyer
DN Relentless - Zumwalt Destroyer
DN Stargazer - Zumwalt Destroyer
DN Drake - Zumwalt Destroyer
DN Lakota - Zumwalt Class Destroyer
DN Nobel - Zumwalt Class Destroyer
DN Huntsville - Zumwalt Class Destroyer
DN Hurricane - Zumwalt Class Destroyer
DN Horatio - Mackensen Class Battleship
DN Defiance - Mackensen Class Battleship
DN Dominant - Mackensen Class Battleship
DN Atlas - Mackensen Class Battleship
DN Hunter Marshall - Africa Class Minesweeper
DN Hunterdon County - Africa Class Minesweeper
DN Steamrunner -Africa Class Minesweepers
DN Hood - Africa Class Minesweepers
DN Gandes - Africa Class Minesweeper
DN Milan - Africa Class Minesweeper
DN Sage - Africa Class Minesweepers
DN Tripoli - Africa Class Minesweepers
DN Dauntless - Norasia Combat Logistic Ship
DN Devoras - Norasia Combat Logistic Ship
DN Endeavor - Norasia Combat Logistic Ship
DN Opportunity - Norasia Combat Logistic Ship
DN Orinoco - Norasia Class Combat Logistics Ship
DN Gettysburg - Norasia Class Combat Logistics Ship
DN Dextrous - Norasia Combat Logistic Ship
DN Sea Dragon - Norasia Combat Logistic Ship
DN Avenger - Norasia Combat Logistic Ship
DN Sanctuary - Norasia Combat Logistic Ship
DN Talladega - Norasia Class Combat Logistics Ship
DN Spirit - Valiant Class ASW Frigate
DN Challenger - Valiant Class ASW Frigate
DN Ekina - Valiant Class ASW Frigate
DN Equinox - Valiant Class ASW Frigate
DN Solsctice - Valiant Class ASW Frigate
DN Exeter - Valiant Class ASW Frigate
DN Jenolen - Valiant Class ASW Frigate
DN Odyssey - Valiant Class ASW Frigate
DN Galor - Valiant Class ASW Frigate
DN Valiant - Valiant Class ASW Frigate
DN Reaper - Valiant Class ASW Frigate
DN Adroit - Valiant Class ASW Frigate
DN Galant - Valiant Class ASW Frigate
DN Dynamic - Valiant Class ASW Frigate
DN Venture - Valiant Class ASW Frigate
DN Crossroads - Valiant Class ASW Frigate
DN Pelias - Valiant Class ASW Frigate
DN Pelican - Valiant Class ASW Frigate
DN Quapaw - Valiant Class ASW Frigate
DN Queenfish - Valiant Class ASW Frigate
DN Fearless - Defiance Class Light Frigate
DN Archangel - Defiance Class Light Frigate
DN Erewon - Defiance Class Light Frigate
DN Excalibur - Defiance Class Light Frigate
DN Honshu - Defiance Class Light Frigate
DN Prokofiev - Defiance Class Light Frigate
DN Majestic - Defiance Class Light Frigate
DN Proxima - Defiance Class Light Frigate
DN Gandhi - Defiance Class Light Frigate
DN Lantree - Defiance Class Light Frigate
DN Angelus - Defiance Class Light Frigate
DN Viper - Defiance Class Light Frigate
DN Hurricane - Defiance Class Light Frigate
DN Fireblade - Defiance Class Light Frigate
DN Tallulah - Defiance Class Light Frigates
DN Taluga - Defiance Class Light Frigates
DN Tang - Defiance Class Light Frigates
DN Umpqua - Defiance Class Light Frigates
DN Underwood - Defiance Class Light Frigates
DN Union - Defiance Class Light Frigates
DN Midgard - Spearhead Class HSV
DN Excelsior - Spearhead Class HSV
DN Farragut - Spearhead Class HSV
DN Tempest - Spearhead Class HSV
DN Austal - Spearhead Class HSV
DN Seminole - Spearhead Class HSV
DN Shadow - Spearhead Class HSV
DN Maddox - Spearhead Class HSV
DN Galileo - Thatcher Class Destroyer
DN Galaxy - Thatcher Class Destroyer
DN Fesarius - Thatcher Class Destroyer
DN Thatcher - Thatcher Class Destroyer
DN Kellar - Thatcher Class Destroyer
DN Effective - Thatcher Class Destroyer
DN Manitowoc - Thatcher Class Destroyer
DN Escape - Thatcher Class Destroyer
DN Insurrection - Hovercraft Deep Sea Transport
DN Miranda - Hovercraft Deep Sea Transport
DN Binac - Hovercraft Deep Sea Transport
DN Nassau - Hovercraft Deep Sea Transport
DN Exploit - Hovercraft Deep Sea Transport
DN Napa - Hovercraft Deep Sea Transport
DN Custom - Hovercraft Deep Sea Transport
DN Invasus - Hovercraft Deep Sea Transport
DN Nitze - Hovercraft Deep Sea Transport
DN Finback - Hovercraft Deep Sea Transport
DN Capable - Hovercraft Deep Sea Transport
DN Fortify - Hovercraft Deep Sea Transport
DN Camden - Hovercraft Deep Sea Transport
DN Firecrest - Hovercraft Deep Sea Transport
DN Pegasus - Hovercraft Deep Sea Transport
DN Peleliu - Hovercraft Deep Sea Transport
DN Kilo - Carona Class TSV
Total Ship Numbers:
4 Lunar Class Aircraft Carriers
8 Infusion CLass Aircraft Carriers
4 Doujin CLass Battleship
4 Hospital Ships
12 Nebula Class AEGIS Destroyerss
2 Sea Horse Class fAS
14 Sea Wolf Class FAS
16 Astron Class FAS
8 Warspite Class FAS
16 Meteora Class Guided Missle Cruiser
8 Zumwalt Class Destroyer
4 Mackensen Class Battleship
8 Arepo Class Minesweeper
11 Norasia Class Combat Logistics Ship
20 Valiant Class ASW Frigate
20 Defiance Class Light Frigate
8 Spearhead Class HSV
8 Thatcher Class destroyers
16 Hovercraft Deep Sea Transports
24 Visby Class Corvettes
165 Hover Patrol Boats
125 Pegasus Patrol Craft
25 Skjold Patrol craft
Aircraft per Carrier:
Infusion Class
35 RF-11
35 DD-3 Sabertooth
5 E2-D Hawkeye
5 AC-150 Tankers
10 DD-2 Infiniti
10 ASW Sea King Helicopters
Lunar Class
35 RF-11
35 DD-3 Sabertooth
5 S-3C Vikings
10 ASW Sea King Helicopters
10 DD-2 Infiniti
2 C2-A Greyhounds
3 E2-D Hawkeye
5 EA-6B Prowlers
Feazanthia
17-03-2004, 14:36
Alright. You win.
Ok this is definatly not fair, Feazanthia dont take this crap. Just not let him RP in this. Continue with the excercise. By the way Doujin do you live in Huntsville Alabama?
no... I do not. Wazican, he can continue the excercise.. but he has no enemy.. people were joining on his side.. so if I withdraw then he has no one to fight..
Feazanthia
17-03-2004, 20:28
Precisely. We can't exactly 'continue' the exercise, and people were just joining in. It wasn't fair. If we were to just 'continue', even if I had a new opponent, we'd have to start completely over because I've lost two of my ships for the duration of the exercise.
Dancing Moose
17-03-2004, 23:07
Oh, so you want me to play huh? Well, I'll then bring in 1 battlegroup with another on its way.
Doujin Naval Battlegroup Invasus
DN Solar - Lunar Class Aircraft Carrier
DN Lunar - Lunar Class Aircraft Carrier
DN Helix - Lunar Class Aircraft Carrier
DN Reliant - Lunar Class Aircraft Carrier
DN Infusion - Infusion Class Aircraft Carrier
DN Sync - Infusion Class Aircraft Carrier
DN Gage - Infusion Class Carrier
DN Galidor - Infusion Class Carrier
DN Karema - Infusion Class Aircraft Carrier
DN Repulse - Infusion Class Aircraft Carrier
DN Humphreys - Infusion Class Aircraft Carrier
DN Hunley - Infusion Class Aircraft Carrier
DN Leviathon - Leviathon Class Battleship
DN Thunder Child - Thunder Child Class Battleship
DN Eden - Thunder Child Class Battleship
DN Anoit - Thunder ChildClass Battleship
DN Hunt - Thunder Child Class Battleship
DN Red Cross - Hospital Ship
DN Thistle - Hospital Ship
DN Sarek - Hospital Ship
DN Rubicon - Hospital Ship
DN Nebula - Nebula Class AEGIS Destroyer
DN Antares - Nebula Class AEGIS Destroyer
DN Aeon - Nebula Class AEGIS Destroyer
DN Aries - Nebula Class AEGIS Destroyer
DN Adelphi - Nebula Class AEGIS Destroyer
DN Liberty - Nebula Class AEGIS Destroyer
DN Hawking - Nebula Class AEGIS Destroyer
DN Sitak - Nebula Class AEGIS Destroyer
DN Sovereign - Nebula Class AEGIS Destroyer
DN Hornet - Nebula Class AEGIS Destroyer
DN Tsiolkovsky - Nebula Class AEGIS Destroyer
DN Soyuz - Nebula Class AEGIS Destroyer
DN Kearsarge - Sea Horse Class FAS
DN Odin - Sea Horse Class FAS
DN HUrst - Sea Wolf Class FAS
DN Huse - Sea Wolf Class FAS
DN Hyades - Sea Wolf Class FAS
DN Hyde - Sea Wolf Class FAS
DN Valjean - Seawolf Class FAS
DN Kitara - Seawolf Class FAS
DN Akira - Seawolf Class FAS
DN Maymora - Seawolf Class FAS
DN Potemkin - Sea Wolf Class FAS
DN Destiny - Sea Wolf Class FAS
DN Tolstoy - Seawolf Class FAS
DN Grissom - Seawolf Class FAS
DN Intrepid - Seawolf Class FAS
DN Zhukov - Seawolf Class FAS
DN Hyman G. Rickover - Astron Class FAS
DN Pecatonica - Astron Class FAS
DN Peconic - Astron Class FAS
DN Pecos - Astron Class FAS
DN Thor - Astron Class FAS
DN Trieste - Astron Class FAS
DN Tolstoy - Astron Class FAS
DN Essex - Astron Class FAS
DN Magellan - Astron Class FAS
DN Malinche - Astron Class FAS
DN Marauder - Astron Class FAS
DN Shenandoah - Astron Class FAS
DN Goddard - Astron Class FAS
DN Lexington - Astron Class FAS
DN Lalo - Astron Class FAS
DN Hideki - Astron Class FAS
DN Audacious - Warspite Class SSBN
DN Beacon - Warspite Class SSBN
DN Loyalty - Warspite Class SSBN
DN Trial - Warspite Class SSBN
DN Deep Angel - Warspite Class SSBN
DN Seleya - Warspite Class SSBN
DN Impulse - Warspite Class SSBN
DN Horizon - Warspite Class SSBN
DN Tribunal - Meteora Class Guided Missile Cruiser
DN Sepulo - Meteora Class Guided Missile Cruiser
DN Hera - Meteora Class Guided Missile Cruiser
DN Ice - Meteora Class Guided Missile Cruiser
DN Merrimack - Meteora Class Guided Missile Cruiser
DN Kataan - Meteora Class Guided Missile Cruiser
DN Olympia - Meteora Class Guided Missile Cruiser
DN LaSalle - Meteora Class Guided Missile Cruiser
DN Vigor - Meteora Class Guided Missile Cruiser
DN Gemini - Meteora Class Guided Missile Cruiser
DN Olympia - Meteora Class Guided Missile Cruiser
DN Velocity - Meteora Class Guided Missile Cruiser
DN Quick - Meteora Class Guided Missile Cruiser
DN Quillback - Meteora Class Guided Missile Cruiser
DN Quincy - Meteora Class Guided Missile Cruiser
DN Quirinus - Meteora Class Guided Missile Cruiser
DN Jupiter - Zumwalt Destroyer
DN Relentless - Zumwalt Destroyer
DN Stargazer - Zumwalt Destroyer
DN Drake - Zumwalt Destroyer
DN Lakota - Zumwalt Class Destroyer
DN Nobel - Zumwalt Class Destroyer
DN Huntsville - Zumwalt Class Destroyer
DN Hurricane - Zumwalt Class Destroyer
DN Horatio - Mackensen Class Battleship
DN Defiance - Mackensen Class Battleship
DN Dominant - Mackensen Class Battleship
DN Atlas - Mackensen Class Battleship
DN Hunter Marshall - Africa Class Minesweeper
DN Hunterdon County - Africa Class Minesweeper
DN Steamrunner -Africa Class Minesweepers
DN Hood - Africa Class Minesweepers
DN Gandes - Africa Class Minesweeper
DN Milan - Africa Class Minesweeper
DN Sage - Africa Class Minesweepers
DN Tripoli - Africa Class Minesweepers
DN Dauntless - Norasia Combat Logistic Ship
DN Devoras - Norasia Combat Logistic Ship
DN Endeavor - Norasia Combat Logistic Ship
DN Opportunity - Norasia Combat Logistic Ship
DN Orinoco - Norasia Class Combat Logistics Ship
DN Gettysburg - Norasia Class Combat Logistics Ship
DN Dextrous - Norasia Combat Logistic Ship
DN Sea Dragon - Norasia Combat Logistic Ship
DN Avenger - Norasia Combat Logistic Ship
DN Sanctuary - Norasia Combat Logistic Ship
DN Talladega - Norasia Class Combat Logistics Ship
DN Spirit - Valiant Class ASW Frigate
DN Challenger - Valiant Class ASW Frigate
DN Ekina - Valiant Class ASW Frigate
DN Equinox - Valiant Class ASW Frigate
DN Solsctice - Valiant Class ASW Frigate
DN Exeter - Valiant Class ASW Frigate
DN Jenolen - Valiant Class ASW Frigate
DN Odyssey - Valiant Class ASW Frigate
DN Galor - Valiant Class ASW Frigate
DN Valiant - Valiant Class ASW Frigate
DN Reaper - Valiant Class ASW Frigate
DN Adroit - Valiant Class ASW Frigate
DN Galant - Valiant Class ASW Frigate
DN Dynamic - Valiant Class ASW Frigate
DN Venture - Valiant Class ASW Frigate
DN Crossroads - Valiant Class ASW Frigate
DN Pelias - Valiant Class ASW Frigate
DN Pelican - Valiant Class ASW Frigate
DN Quapaw - Valiant Class ASW Frigate
DN Queenfish - Valiant Class ASW Frigate
DN Fearless - Defiance Class Light Frigate
DN Archangel - Defiance Class Light Frigate
DN Erewon - Defiance Class Light Frigate
DN Excalibur - Defiance Class Light Frigate
DN Honshu - Defiance Class Light Frigate
DN Prokofiev - Defiance Class Light Frigate
DN Majestic - Defiance Class Light Frigate
DN Proxima - Defiance Class Light Frigate
DN Gandhi - Defiance Class Light Frigate
DN Lantree - Defiance Class Light Frigate
DN Angelus - Defiance Class Light Frigate
DN Viper - Defiance Class Light Frigate
DN Hurricane - Defiance Class Light Frigate
DN Fireblade - Defiance Class Light Frigate
DN Tallulah - Defiance Class Light Frigates
DN Taluga - Defiance Class Light Frigates
DN Tang - Defiance Class Light Frigates
DN Umpqua - Defiance Class Light Frigates
DN Underwood - Defiance Class Light Frigates
DN Union - Defiance Class Light Frigates
DN Midgard - Spearhead Class HSV
DN Excelsior - Spearhead Class HSV
DN Farragut - Spearhead Class HSV
DN Tempest - Spearhead Class HSV
DN Austal - Spearhead Class HSV
DN Seminole - Spearhead Class HSV
DN Shadow - Spearhead Class HSV
DN Maddox - Spearhead Class HSV
DN Galileo - Thatcher Class Destroyer
DN Galaxy - Thatcher Class Destroyer
DN Fesarius - Thatcher Class Destroyer
DN Thatcher - Thatcher Class Destroyer
DN Kellar - Thatcher Class Destroyer
DN Effective - Thatcher Class Destroyer
DN Manitowoc - Thatcher Class Destroyer
DN Escape - Thatcher Class Destroyer
DN Insurrection - Hovercraft Deep Sea Transport
DN Miranda - Hovercraft Deep Sea Transport
DN Binac - Hovercraft Deep Sea Transport
DN Nassau - Hovercraft Deep Sea Transport
DN Exploit - Hovercraft Deep Sea Transport
DN Napa - Hovercraft Deep Sea Transport
DN Custom - Hovercraft Deep Sea Transport
DN Invasus - Hovercraft Deep Sea Transport
DN Nitze - Hovercraft Deep Sea Transport
DN Finback - Hovercraft Deep Sea Transport
DN Capable - Hovercraft Deep Sea Transport
DN Fortify - Hovercraft Deep Sea Transport
DN Camden - Hovercraft Deep Sea Transport
DN Firecrest - Hovercraft Deep Sea Transport
DN Pegasus - Hovercraft Deep Sea Transport
DN Peleliu - Hovercraft Deep Sea Transport
DN Kilo - Carona Class TSV
Total Ship Numbers:
4 Lunar Class Aircraft Carriers
8 Infusion CLass Aircraft Carriers
4 Doujin CLass Battleship
4 Hospital Ships
12 Nebula Class AEGIS Destroyerss
2 Sea Horse Class fAS
14 Sea Wolf Class FAS
16 Astron Class FAS
8 Warspite Class FAS
16 Meteora Class Guided Missle Cruiser
8 Zumwalt Class Destroyer
4 Mackensen Class Battleship
8 Arepo Class Minesweeper
11 Norasia Class Combat Logistics Ship
20 Valiant Class ASW Frigate
20 Defiance Class Light Frigate
8 Spearhead Class HSV
8 Thatcher Class destroyers
16 Hovercraft Deep Sea Transports
24 Visby Class Corvettes
165 Hover Patrol Boats
125 Pegasus Patrol Craft
25 Skjold Patrol craft
Aircraft per Carrier:
Infusion Class
35 RF-11
35 DD-3 Sabertooth
5 E2-D Hawkeye
5 AC-150 Tankers
10 DD-2 Infiniti
10 ASW Sea King Helicopters
Lunar Class
35 RF-11
35 DD-3 Sabertooth
5 S-3C Vikings
10 ASW Sea King Helicopters
10 DD-2 Infiniti
2 C2-A Greyhounds
3 E2-D Hawkeye
5 EA-6B Prowlers
I hate to quote this but Doujin, you only have like 575 million people and a tax rate of 8%. There is no way you could afford that, much less that doubled like you say you have. I mean, if you were to send that then that would be it.
Feazanthia, me and Wazican will gladly participate as opponents to you if you wanted to do it again. I will send one small battlegroup and Wazican will also send a small amount. Come on, this would be fun...
Sure I'll cut my numbers in half or more, and we can restart.
Oy... maybe i'll just restrain combat participation to wars, eh Feazanthia? This seems to get too unnecessary and complicated.
Doujin-holy moses thats a buttload of navy.
I will send a 1 carrier Battle group
2 iowa BB's
5 AEGIS DDGs
3 TIConderoga CGs
1 688 sub
3 Seawolf subs
2 perry FFGs
My carrier is a Halsey class, check above for details.
CONTINUE
Dancing Moose
18-03-2004, 00:06
Alright, this is good.... Homer, you can be on Feazanthia's side if your sure you can RP correctly, lol.
Oh, so you want me to play huh? Well, I'll then bring in 1 battlegroup with another on its way.
Doujin Naval Battlegroup Invasus
DN Solar - Lunar Class Aircraft Carrier
DN Lunar - Lunar Class Aircraft Carrier
DN Helix - Lunar Class Aircraft Carrier
DN Reliant - Lunar Class Aircraft Carrier
DN Infusion - Infusion Class Aircraft Carrier
DN Sync - Infusion Class Aircraft Carrier
DN Gage - Infusion Class Carrier
DN Galidor - Infusion Class Carrier
DN Karema - Infusion Class Aircraft Carrier
DN Repulse - Infusion Class Aircraft Carrier
DN Humphreys - Infusion Class Aircraft Carrier
DN Hunley - Infusion Class Aircraft Carrier
DN Leviathon - Leviathon Class Battleship
DN Thunder Child - Thunder Child Class Battleship
DN Eden - Thunder Child Class Battleship
DN Anoit - Thunder ChildClass Battleship
DN Hunt - Thunder Child Class Battleship
DN Red Cross - Hospital Ship
DN Thistle - Hospital Ship
DN Sarek - Hospital Ship
DN Rubicon - Hospital Ship
DN Nebula - Nebula Class AEGIS Destroyer
DN Antares - Nebula Class AEGIS Destroyer
DN Aeon - Nebula Class AEGIS Destroyer
DN Aries - Nebula Class AEGIS Destroyer
DN Adelphi - Nebula Class AEGIS Destroyer
DN Liberty - Nebula Class AEGIS Destroyer
DN Hawking - Nebula Class AEGIS Destroyer
DN Sitak - Nebula Class AEGIS Destroyer
DN Sovereign - Nebula Class AEGIS Destroyer
DN Hornet - Nebula Class AEGIS Destroyer
DN Tsiolkovsky - Nebula Class AEGIS Destroyer
DN Soyuz - Nebula Class AEGIS Destroyer
DN Kearsarge - Sea Horse Class FAS
DN Odin - Sea Horse Class FAS
DN HUrst - Sea Wolf Class FAS
DN Huse - Sea Wolf Class FAS
DN Hyades - Sea Wolf Class FAS
DN Hyde - Sea Wolf Class FAS
DN Valjean - Seawolf Class FAS
DN Kitara - Seawolf Class FAS
DN Akira - Seawolf Class FAS
DN Maymora - Seawolf Class FAS
DN Potemkin - Sea Wolf Class FAS
DN Destiny - Sea Wolf Class FAS
DN Tolstoy - Seawolf Class FAS
DN Grissom - Seawolf Class FAS
DN Intrepid - Seawolf Class FAS
DN Zhukov - Seawolf Class FAS
DN Hyman G. Rickover - Astron Class FAS
DN Pecatonica - Astron Class FAS
DN Peconic - Astron Class FAS
DN Pecos - Astron Class FAS
DN Thor - Astron Class FAS
DN Trieste - Astron Class FAS
DN Tolstoy - Astron Class FAS
DN Essex - Astron Class FAS
DN Magellan - Astron Class FAS
DN Malinche - Astron Class FAS
DN Marauder - Astron Class FAS
DN Shenandoah - Astron Class FAS
DN Goddard - Astron Class FAS
DN Lexington - Astron Class FAS
DN Lalo - Astron Class FAS
DN Hideki - Astron Class FAS
DN Audacious - Warspite Class SSBN
DN Beacon - Warspite Class SSBN
DN Loyalty - Warspite Class SSBN
DN Trial - Warspite Class SSBN
DN Deep Angel - Warspite Class SSBN
DN Seleya - Warspite Class SSBN
DN Impulse - Warspite Class SSBN
DN Horizon - Warspite Class SSBN
DN Tribunal - Meteora Class Guided Missile Cruiser
DN Sepulo - Meteora Class Guided Missile Cruiser
DN Hera - Meteora Class Guided Missile Cruiser
DN Ice - Meteora Class Guided Missile Cruiser
DN Merrimack - Meteora Class Guided Missile Cruiser
DN Kataan - Meteora Class Guided Missile Cruiser
DN Olympia - Meteora Class Guided Missile Cruiser
DN LaSalle - Meteora Class Guided Missile Cruiser
DN Vigor - Meteora Class Guided Missile Cruiser
DN Gemini - Meteora Class Guided Missile Cruiser
DN Olympia - Meteora Class Guided Missile Cruiser
DN Velocity - Meteora Class Guided Missile Cruiser
DN Quick - Meteora Class Guided Missile Cruiser
DN Quillback - Meteora Class Guided Missile Cruiser
DN Quincy - Meteora Class Guided Missile Cruiser
DN Quirinus - Meteora Class Guided Missile Cruiser
DN Jupiter - Zumwalt Destroyer
DN Relentless - Zumwalt Destroyer
DN Stargazer - Zumwalt Destroyer
DN Drake - Zumwalt Destroyer
DN Lakota - Zumwalt Class Destroyer
DN Nobel - Zumwalt Class Destroyer
DN Huntsville - Zumwalt Class Destroyer
DN Hurricane - Zumwalt Class Destroyer
DN Horatio - Mackensen Class Battleship
DN Defiance - Mackensen Class Battleship
DN Dominant - Mackensen Class Battleship
DN Atlas - Mackensen Class Battleship
DN Hunter Marshall - Africa Class Minesweeper
DN Hunterdon County - Africa Class Minesweeper
DN Steamrunner -Africa Class Minesweepers
DN Hood - Africa Class Minesweepers
DN Gandes - Africa Class Minesweeper
DN Milan - Africa Class Minesweeper
DN Sage - Africa Class Minesweepers
DN Tripoli - Africa Class Minesweepers
DN Dauntless - Norasia Combat Logistic Ship
DN Devoras - Norasia Combat Logistic Ship
DN Endeavor - Norasia Combat Logistic Ship
DN Opportunity - Norasia Combat Logistic Ship
DN Orinoco - Norasia Class Combat Logistics Ship
DN Gettysburg - Norasia Class Combat Logistics Ship
DN Dextrous - Norasia Combat Logistic Ship
DN Sea Dragon - Norasia Combat Logistic Ship
DN Avenger - Norasia Combat Logistic Ship
DN Sanctuary - Norasia Combat Logistic Ship
DN Talladega - Norasia Class Combat Logistics Ship
DN Spirit - Valiant Class ASW Frigate
DN Challenger - Valiant Class ASW Frigate
DN Ekina - Valiant Class ASW Frigate
DN Equinox - Valiant Class ASW Frigate
DN Solsctice - Valiant Class ASW Frigate
DN Exeter - Valiant Class ASW Frigate
DN Jenolen - Valiant Class ASW Frigate
DN Odyssey - Valiant Class ASW Frigate
DN Galor - Valiant Class ASW Frigate
DN Valiant - Valiant Class ASW Frigate
DN Reaper - Valiant Class ASW Frigate
DN Adroit - Valiant Class ASW Frigate
DN Galant - Valiant Class ASW Frigate
DN Dynamic - Valiant Class ASW Frigate
DN Venture - Valiant Class ASW Frigate
DN Crossroads - Valiant Class ASW Frigate
DN Pelias - Valiant Class ASW Frigate
DN Pelican - Valiant Class ASW Frigate
DN Quapaw - Valiant Class ASW Frigate
DN Queenfish - Valiant Class ASW Frigate
DN Fearless - Defiance Class Light Frigate
DN Archangel - Defiance Class Light Frigate
DN Erewon - Defiance Class Light Frigate
DN Excalibur - Defiance Class Light Frigate
DN Honshu - Defiance Class Light Frigate
DN Prokofiev - Defiance Class Light Frigate
DN Majestic - Defiance Class Light Frigate
DN Proxima - Defiance Class Light Frigate
DN Gandhi - Defiance Class Light Frigate
DN Lantree - Defiance Class Light Frigate
DN Angelus - Defiance Class Light Frigate
DN Viper - Defiance Class Light Frigate
DN Hurricane - Defiance Class Light Frigate
DN Fireblade - Defiance Class Light Frigate
DN Tallulah - Defiance Class Light Frigates
DN Taluga - Defiance Class Light Frigates
DN Tang - Defiance Class Light Frigates
DN Umpqua - Defiance Class Light Frigates
DN Underwood - Defiance Class Light Frigates
DN Union - Defiance Class Light Frigates
DN Midgard - Spearhead Class HSV
DN Excelsior - Spearhead Class HSV
DN Farragut - Spearhead Class HSV
DN Tempest - Spearhead Class HSV
DN Austal - Spearhead Class HSV
DN Seminole - Spearhead Class HSV
DN Shadow - Spearhead Class HSV
DN Maddox - Spearhead Class HSV
DN Galileo - Thatcher Class Destroyer
DN Galaxy - Thatcher Class Destroyer
DN Fesarius - Thatcher Class Destroyer
DN Thatcher - Thatcher Class Destroyer
DN Kellar - Thatcher Class Destroyer
DN Effective - Thatcher Class Destroyer
DN Manitowoc - Thatcher Class Destroyer
DN Escape - Thatcher Class Destroyer
DN Insurrection - Hovercraft Deep Sea Transport
DN Miranda - Hovercraft Deep Sea Transport
DN Binac - Hovercraft Deep Sea Transport
DN Nassau - Hovercraft Deep Sea Transport
DN Exploit - Hovercraft Deep Sea Transport
DN Napa - Hovercraft Deep Sea Transport
DN Custom - Hovercraft Deep Sea Transport
DN Invasus - Hovercraft Deep Sea Transport
DN Nitze - Hovercraft Deep Sea Transport
DN Finback - Hovercraft Deep Sea Transport
DN Capable - Hovercraft Deep Sea Transport
DN Fortify - Hovercraft Deep Sea Transport
DN Camden - Hovercraft Deep Sea Transport
DN Firecrest - Hovercraft Deep Sea Transport
DN Pegasus - Hovercraft Deep Sea Transport
DN Peleliu - Hovercraft Deep Sea Transport
DN Kilo - Carona Class TSV
Total Ship Numbers:
4 Lunar Class Aircraft Carriers
8 Infusion CLass Aircraft Carriers
4 Doujin CLass Battleship
4 Hospital Ships
12 Nebula Class AEGIS Destroyerss
2 Sea Horse Class fAS
14 Sea Wolf Class FAS
16 Astron Class FAS
8 Warspite Class FAS
16 Meteora Class Guided Missle Cruiser
8 Zumwalt Class Destroyer
4 Mackensen Class Battleship
8 Arepo Class Minesweeper
11 Norasia Class Combat Logistics Ship
20 Valiant Class ASW Frigate
20 Defiance Class Light Frigate
8 Spearhead Class HSV
8 Thatcher Class destroyers
16 Hovercraft Deep Sea Transports
24 Visby Class Corvettes
165 Hover Patrol Boats
125 Pegasus Patrol Craft
25 Skjold Patrol craft
Aircraft per Carrier:
Infusion Class
35 RF-11
35 DD-3 Sabertooth
5 E2-D Hawkeye
5 AC-150 Tankers
10 DD-2 Infiniti
10 ASW Sea King Helicopters
Lunar Class
35 RF-11
35 DD-3 Sabertooth
5 S-3C Vikings
10 ASW Sea King Helicopters
10 DD-2 Infiniti
2 C2-A Greyhounds
3 E2-D Hawkeye
5 EA-6B Prowlers
I hate to quote this but Doujin, you only have like 575 million people and a tax rate of 8%. There is no way you could afford that, much less that doubled like you say you have. I mean, if you were to send that then that would be it.
Feazanthia, me and Wazican will gladly participate as opponents to you if you wanted to do it again. I will send one small battlegroup and Wazican will also send a small amount. Come on, this would be fun...
Don't dare get into costs with me, I also have a thriving economy and have a 645 billion dollar military budget per year (and I treat a year as one NS day, which is every time I do a "census" and my population increases, except for certain role-playing)
Not to mention, my "company" owns Doujin.. and I get my ships for about 15-20% less than what I sell them for, and I produce it all myself. Don't get into me with costs, I've worked it all out.. if I had more than 550 naval vessels, then you could acll on me for godmodding.. you cannot have more (realistically) than 1 vessel per million in population.. and I do not.
Doujin is right with the number of ships. Most of them are patrol craft with a small crew. During the 1980s, our navy was at 600 ships of frigate size or larger. Our pop was 250 million. But, for the sake of exercises, don't send that large fleet. I have 18 carriers but have only 1 here
Doujin is right with the number of ships. Most of them are patrol craft with a small crew. During the 1980s, our navy was at 600 ships of frigate size or larger. Our pop was 250 million. But, for the sake of exercises, don't send that large fleet. I have 18 carriers but have only 1 here
Doujin is right with the number of ships. Most of them are patrol craft with a small crew. During the 1980s, our navy was at 600 ships of frigate size or larger. Our pop was 250 million. But, for the sake of exercises, don't send that large fleet. I have 18 carriers but have only 2 here
Dancing Moose
18-03-2004, 02:41
No, Doujin. I just calculated you budget on a GNP online calculater and it comes to 302.737 billion a year. Besides, even if you did buy all those ships you could never fuel and pay the crew for a war, much less keep them maintained and updated while in harbor (or not in use). You have 12 Aircraft Carriers and what, 8 battleships? That is just crazy. It doesnt matter if you got discounts when you bought them, like I said, you couldnt maintain them and keep them at sea for a war.
Edit: Also, Doujin, that is with your % of National Budget going into your Military Budget is 15%. Thats like the maximum.
Dancing Moose
18-03-2004, 02:46
Doujin is right with the number of ships. Most of them are patrol craft with a small crew. During the 1980s, our navy was at 600 ships of frigate size or larger. Our pop was 250 million. But, for the sake of exercises, don't send that large fleet. I have 18 carriers but have only 1 here
No, he is wrong. Also, you could not fuel 18 carriers. Maybe buy them, but not maintain them. Well, if you did, it would come at a cost of your army. You wouldnt want that to happen would you?
You are still argueing, aren't you? The US Army has many many times the number in army that I have. I am a naval nation, not an army nation.. not air force.. I have a large navy, small army and even smaller air force.
You cannot calculate my budget without the percentages I decide to use. Your right, it is maximum. That is why I run it at 15%. I have 2, if not 2.5 the size of the US. The US has 1 million in the Air Force alone, not counting the Army, Marines, Navy.. I not have a large Army.. want to see the map of Doujin? It's an island.. not much an Army gonna do there, hence the naval power.
http://www.angelfire.com/ns2/doujincorp/doujinmap.PNG
Oh, and also.. remember that "storefront" I have? I do generate money through that.. albeit it isn't a large sum, over time (about 5 months?) That does amount to a sizable surplus. I spend that surplus to purchase ships and to buy production rights to various things. I should not have over 550 surface combatants, that is highly unrealistic. And I don't. Like I said, realisitcally you should only have 1 surface combatant per million in population.
The nuclear reactors on the vessels I use re-use their spent fuel. Making it much more efficient, and cost savings. However, due to the construction of new vessels, the uranium market is still on top, closely followed by auto and arms manufacturing. Wanna know an interesting fact? I had a nation 2 years old give me 30 trillion dollars. Godmod? Could be, if he didn't have the money. But he did, and if it would crash his economy that is none of my business. Debated and debated, it came down to that in the eyes of Doujin, I could accept the money without second thought.
And, fuel doesn't cost each year for each vessel. Refueling only happens every so often. I could pull up several nuclear reactors where
1. Fuel is reused
2. Refueling only is needed once every 5-10 years
3. Passively cooled systems
4. God knows what else
I have talked over this with many nations Dancing Moose, you aren't the first. And in the end, it was agreed that I am not stepping over the line.. and I never plan to. If I do I will step back.. if you can prove to me that I am stepping over the line.
And, I am getting from your second to last post you are saying that 302 billion is with me having 15% military budget
Doujin Gross Domestic Product
Population: 575,277,868
Civil Rights: Very Good
Economy: Thriving
GDP per Capita: $20,495
GDP: $11,790,319,904,660
National Budget: $4,292,725,808,348
Percentage of GDP Spent on Defense: 5.46%
Percentage of Budget Spent on Defense: 15%
Military Budget: $643,908,871,252
Enough for:
20,704 F-15Es, or...
32,195 Su-34s, or...
34,250 F-16s, or...
58,537 MiG 29s, or...
149,746 M1A2 Abrams, or...
214,636 T-90s, or...
1,098,820,599 M-16s, or...
2,146,362,904 AK47s
That is it. I am launching 4 E-2 Hawkeyes in the cardinal directions. I have 2 carriers here. I have 4 F-35B JSF's by each AWACS. Picking up faint radar signals to the bearingof 035. Going to investigate. 2 Strike squadrons of F-35 JSFs are going to investigate and possibly strike. 24 planes total. 6 AA and 6 ASM.
GENERAL QUARTERS!!!!
radar has enemy fleet at North, North East
OK, it is dancing moose. range is 75 miles from hawkeye. Pull AWACS back and start firing all ASM missiles. Divide them among the fleet. Range from firing point 75 miles. Missile speed 990 mph. Total missiles is 168 (24 from 2 squadrons + 4 with AWACS times 6 missiles per plane)
Missiles are, 28 HARMs to destroy radars and 140 advanced Harpoons
Our fleet is detected, light up AEGIS system. Run at flank speed from the fleet. Hopefully our missiles will kill them before they can damage us. When they enter the 100 mile missiles radius fire at will.
Dancing Moose
18-03-2004, 04:41
You are still argueing, aren't you? The US Army has many many times the number in army that I have. I am a naval nation, not an army nation.. not air force.. I have a large navy, small army and even smaller air force.
You cannot calculate my budget without the percentages I decide to use. Your right, it is maximum. That is why I run it at 15%. I have 2, if not 2.5 the size of the US. The US has 1 million in the Air Force alone, not counting the Army, Marines, Navy.. I not have a large Army.. want to see the map of Doujin? It's an island.. not much an Army gonna do there, hence the naval power.
http://www.angelfire.com/ns2/doujincorp/doujinmap.PNG
Oh, and also.. remember that "storefront" I have? I do generate money through that.. albeit it isn't a large sum, over time (about 5 months?) That does amount to a sizable surplus. I spend that surplus to purchase ships and to buy production rights to various things. I should not have over 550 surface combatants, that is highly unrealistic. And I don't. Like I said, realisitcally you should only have 1 surface combatant per million in population.
The nuclear reactors on the vessels I use re-use their spent fuel. Making it much more efficient, and cost savings. However, due to the construction of new vessels, the uranium market is still on top, closely followed by auto and arms manufacturing. Wanna know an interesting fact? I had a nation 2 years old give me 30 trillion dollars. Godmod? Could be, if he didn't have the money. But he did, and if it would crash his economy that is none of my business. Debated and debated, it came down to that in the eyes of Doujin, I could accept the money without second thought.
And, fuel doesn't cost each year for each vessel. Refueling only happens every so often. I could pull up several nuclear reactors where
1. Fuel is reused
2. Refueling only is needed once every 5-10 years
3. Passively cooled systems
4. God knows what else
I have talked over this with many nations Dancing Moose, you aren't the first. And in the end, it was agreed that I am not stepping over the line.. and I never plan to. If I do I will step back.. if you can prove to me that I am stepping over the line.
Hmm... well.. I guess if you completely drained your nations of an Air Force and Army then yes, you probably could afford that.
Yes, I can calculate your budget (it doesnt matter what percentage im using to do it, as long as it is the max).
I really dont know what your talking about with the 30 trill thing but ok.
You could say that about your ships that have nuclear reactors, but keep in mind alot of them dont.
Also, I used a different site to calculate it and it may be wrong but it clearly says it 302 billion dollars a year. If you want, I can post a link but as of now im too lazy to.
I dont like to argue, and I want to compromise without making this any more of a deal than it should be.
Thank you.
Dancing Moose
18-03-2004, 04:43
OK, it is dancing moose. range is 75 miles from hawkeye. Pull AWACS back and start firing all ASM missiles. Divide them among the fleet. Range from firing point 75 miles. Missile speed 990 mph. Total missiles is 168 (24 from 2 squadrons + 4 with AWACS times 6 missiles per plane)
Missiles are, 28 HARMs to destroy radars and 140 advanced Harpoons
Ok, ill play your game.
All missiles are destroyed by RAM, Millenium gun, and Phalanx batteries. CAP (Combat Air Patrol) is dispatched and the Hawkeye and any planes accompying it were destroyed.
http://www.pipian.com/stuffforchat/gdpcalc.php?nation=Doujin&randomize=1&defenseprovided=1&defense=15&militarybudget=1
This is the calculator suggested to be used. It is used by the -majority- of NationStates in regards to calculating GDP, there was another one but it does not show the correct number. Possibly maybe the one you are using. See, the Pipian one not only can randomize your population number to give it a more realistic effect.. it also does your GDP by your civil rights / populace happiness levels. When a population is happy, they work better and harder. When they aren't, they lag behind. And the ships that don't run on nuclear reactors (mainly submarines) used hydrogen fuel cell systems.. and in the long run cost LESS than nuclear reactors. The onyl ships that don't really use nuclear reactors are the small frigates/corvettes/patrol boats.
Months ago a nation named Jingle Jangle Ridge gave me 30 trillion dollars. There was a bit of controversy but it was settled then in a 2-4 page long thread. It wasn't given in one lump sum, but in the end it amounted 30 trillion.
Dancing Moose
18-03-2004, 05:00
http://members.fortunecity.com/thracetailteann/html/gnp.html
Ive never seen anything wrong with this one, but whatever.
Dancing Moose
18-03-2004, 05:03
Hmm yeah I could see how that giving away 30 trillion could bring a controversy, but if you rightfully got it in the end then im fine with that.
If this is what your trying to prove, then so be it. I was wrong. Sorry.
Dancing Moose
19-03-2004, 00:13
So since Doujin doesnt want to play anymore, do you want to start a new thread and do it again?
Homer for god sake RP. For everybody's benefit.