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The Empire of Roycelandia once again finds itself involved in various Security Operations in Third World countries, and the demand for weapons is outstripping our ability to supply them.

A lot of today's rebels, guerrillas, and freedom fighters don't appreciate the levels of precision that go into each and every one of Imperial Armament's fine weapons- rifles, LMGs, pistols, or whatever.

Why should we waste precision craftsmanship on people who won't appreciate it, and tend to mistreat it anyway?

Accodingly, The Imperial Defence Bureau is looking for all manner of pre-Vietnam era weapons to purchase- be they M-16s, AK-47s, SLRs, SMLEs, Lewis Guns, Muskets, RPGs, M91/30s, Cannon, Martini-Henrys, Winchester Model 73s... whatever, as long as it's a firearm.

Additionally, we're also after Pre-Vietnam tanks, armoured vehicles, aircraft, trucks, jeeps, etc, for similar reasons.

Just post what you'd like to sell and how much you want for it below, and we'll see what we can work out...

[Authorised by the Imperial Defence Bureau, Port Royal, Roycelandia]

Anyone? We are prepared to pay for this stuff... we aren't just expecting it for free (although we won't say no if you're feeling generous...) :D

Just Western?

We have loads of old stuff of that era but its all Soviet built.

Soviet-built is fine... most of it is off to the ALG anyway, since Gabonaise Freedom Fighters armed with Roycelandian Equipment is just a bit conspicuous... :wink:

That and it's useful for some of the other Cloak & Dagger things Roycelandia gets up to, as I'm sure you can imagine. 8)

We have some "junk" if you require
* 500 moth-balled Jeeps (replaced by HumVees now)
* 5000 AK-47s (confiscated from terrorists)
* 200 russian RPGs

1 million and all yours.

The Reserve Bank of Roycelandia has electronically transferred the appropriate funds to you... We look forward to receiving the equipment forthwith.

Anyone else got anything Pre-Vietnam that we can buy? American, British, Soviet, whatever- we aren't fussed, as long as it's pre-Vietnam(ish)...

The Reserve Bank of Roycelandia has electronically transferred the appropriate funds to you... We look forward to receiving the equipment forthwith.

Anyone else got anything Pre-Vietnam that we can buy? American, British, Soviet, whatever- we aren't fussed, as long as it's pre-Vietnam(ish)...

We are sending your order now by ship. We'll look, but most got cleared out by previous sales or stolen by Commie rebels (and subsequently destroyed).

Argyllia has this equipment in storage that can be sold-

60 F-4 Phantoms- £180m
36 F-5 Freedom Fighters- £72m
200 Sherman tanks, WW2 vintage- £20m
3,000 Willis Jeeps- £3m
10,000 Bren Guns- £1m
100,000 M1 Garrad- £1m

£277 million total

We'll take everything except the Bren Guns (we have quite enough of those, as they are the standard LMG of the Roycelandian Armed Forces).

The money is on it's way...

Well I currenlty have a large stock of weapons for events like these.

I will sell you 1000 M-14s

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/M14-large.jpg

for 500$

M-14s are good too... we're going to need all this stuff very soon, methinks! :shock:

[makes notes of all weapons being traded]

If these munitions turn up in our brave soldiers..! ;)

(damn it, stop helping imperialism, all of you swine!)

Now, now... Imperialism has many advantages, including: Great Trade Benefits, Overseas Travel, Colourful Uniforms, and Oppressing Native Peoples. :D

And it's not like we're using NEW weapons to kill your soldiers, is it? :wink:

*increases aid to Lusaka, opens up arms markets to Lusaka*

Don't worry, you're in good hands. :wink:

You know that reminds me, Lusaka is in need of increased battlefield air defence capacity.. SPAAGs and mobile SAMs, since we've a lot of men on the ground in Gabon, and have withdrawn our jets since we probably can't afford to replace any losses. We've got our hands on a fair few hand-held SAMs and have plenty of HMGs, and have a few ZSU-23-4 and SA-9 Gaskin deployed either in Gabon or waiting just across the border in the African Commonwealth, but most of those aren't too advanced, and they certainly aren't much use against high-altitude bombing. Apart from a few old SA-4 Ganef there's not much around to engage such targets, making it difficult for us to advance against the imperialists.


[makes self comfortable in Roycelandia's thread ;) Heh, sorry, sorry..]

The Empire of Roycelandia once again finds itself involved in various Security Operations in Third World countries, and the demand for weapons is outstripping our ability to supply them.

A lot of today's rebels, guerrillas, and freedom fighters don't appreciate the levels of precision that go into each and every one of Imperial Armament's fine weapons- rifles, LMGs, pistols, or whatever.

Why should we waste precision craftsmanship on people who won't appreciate it, and tend to mistreat it anyway?

Accodingly, The Imperial Defence Bureau is looking for all manner of pre-Vietnam era weapons to purchase- be they M-16s, AK-47s, SLRs, SMLEs, Lewis Guns, Muskets, RPGs, M91/30s, Cannon, Martini-Henrys, Winchester Model 73s... whatever, as long as it's a firearm.

Additionally, we're also after Pre-Vietnam tanks, armoured vehicles, aircraft, trucks, jeeps, etc, for similar reasons.

Just post what you'd like to sell and how much you want for it below, and we'll see what we can work out...

[Authorised by the Imperial Defence Bureau, Port Royal, Roycelandia]

Wow... I really don't know whether to be shocked, offended, or surprised.
We use a lot of pre-1960's designed hardware, including M-1 Garands, M-1919 and 1917 Medium Machineguns, Thompsons, and Delisle Carbines. We also produce them... New.
We're (quite frankly) surprised at the popularity of .223 submachineguns(5.56x45 NATO) as a replacement for real rifles (the kind you can swing and cave someone's skull in without breaking).
We'll be happy to offer you either the standard "Classic" M-1 Garand (8 shot en-bloc clip) in either the original 24 inch barrel, or the shortened "t-26" length with the 20" barrel- at $45 US (1960 dollars, recalculate for inflation and adjust for your currency) per rifle Rifle bores are Chrome-plated, with the 5-groove "Enfield" rifling. We also use, and can sell, .30-06 rifle ammunition in 160 gr. DU cored ball (Boat-tail, cupronickel jacket), 124 gr. Tracer, and Blank cartridges.
We charge .03 U.S. Dollars (1960) per round. Primers are non-corrosive, propellant is low-flash type flake. Velocity for the standard ball ammunition is 2750 FPS at 45,000 CUP, and our cases are nickel-plated for corrosion resistance.
(our ammunition is laquer sealed at both ends, waterproof, and high-quality.)
For $ 60 US(1960 equivalent), we can sell you the "B" M-1 Rifle, this rifle is equipped with a detatchable box magazine (10 shot), and compatible with the BAR magazine (20 shot), the bolt assembly is stainless steel, as is the reciever, and all working parts. This is the variant we issue right now. Caliber is .30-06, and rifles incorporate upgrades like the roller-bearing (to improve function in cold climates), and 1/2 MOA click-adjustable rear sight. Scope rail for mounting the Lyman Alaskan (or other scope) is pre-machined into the reciever unit.

Machineguns:
We use a new version of both the M1917 Water-cooled Medium MG, and the M-1919A6 Air-cooled machinegun. Both versions are made with high-chrome/Nickel internal mechanism components. The 1919 has a quick-detatch barrel, the 1917 has a CRES lining in the waterjacket.
Both are altered to accept disintegrating metallic-link ammunition belts.

Mortars:

Two inch, Four inch, Six Inch, we have your mortar needs covered. High-grade Steel barrel and baseplate, micrometer adjustment in the traverse mechanism.
Prices available upon request.

Recoilless Rifles:

Three-inch (76mm for the ASE impaired) $200 (US 1960)

Four point Three Inch (120mm) Smoothbore Gun-this one's new, and proprietary. We have two shells that work in it- the APDS round fires a 25 lb penetrator at 2700 FPS for a range of 4000 yards, effective range against an MBT is 2000 yards.
The second round is an antipersonnel round, 25 lbs of DU Buckshot (.32 inch diameter) with an effective engagement cone extending out to 500 yards, with an average cone diameter of 30 yards. Flechette rounds have proven somewhat less effective than the shot, primarily because shot grouping is too tight for good utility against enemy infantry formations, while the flechettes tend to lose velocity too quickly over distance.
Of course, we also sell a finned "Shaped Charge" shell for the 4.3 inch smoothbore. Accuracy is adequate, but not particularly inspiring.
Prices available upon request.

Vehicles!

M-3 "White Car" scout- a front-engine, four-wheel drive, stickshift armoured car with an open top, our version includes ceramic applique armour and mounts for the 4.3 inch recoilless rifle. it comes stock with the M-1917NK machinegun mounted on a "Skate rail" mount that includes a condensate cannister. With a crew of four, (Driver, two gunners, one loader) this vehicle can mount both the Machinegun, and the recoilless (or, if you prefer, a 4 or 6 inch mortar), and carry sufficient ammunition for most missions (the recoilless variant carries twenty rounds for the 4.3 inch, and two 1000 round cases of belt-feed ammuniton for the machinegun), along with all the gear the crew need in the field.
Top speed for our version (Diesel engine)-55 MPH (multiply by 5/3 for KPH), fuel range (internal fuel) is 300 miles (Mileage varies). Tyres are standard split-rim type used on many cargo trucks, internal vehicle components are compatible with many heavy cargo truck types in use throughout the world (we recommend Cummins or Isuzu diesel engine components, Mercedes are overcomplicated and often incompatible.)
We include owner's manuals and service manuals for each level of maintenance (from operator level to Depot level) with each vehicle, along with a proper set of tools for emergency repairs in the field.
All this, for a mere $1500 USD(1960) per unit. (Adjust for inflation, currency before ordering.)

Jeeps!
We have JEEPS!!! M-38s, M-151's! we have em- the most popular vehicle in our nation, produced under expired licenses, we not only have them, we have them in different flavours, including diesel, we make parts for them as well, and can supply you with spares at competitive pricing.
(make offer)

Motorcycles

We produce the Harley-Davidson WLF in both sidecar, and non-sidecar models.
(Make offer)

Helicopters

We loved the UH-1, but we didn't love the driveshaft and boom arrangement.
So... we changed it out.
Our Hue (not "Huey") model Utility chopper is a marvel of easy maintenance married to low cost. Based on the Bell-400, ours has a few changes that make it a dream to maintain, and cheap to use.
The first change, was the alteration to a NoTAR system-basically a duct coming off the engine, with bleed-air baffles and a parasitic duct off the rotorhead base, (to reduce IR and sound from that duct), this aircraft doesn't have a tail rotor, or an expensive counterrotating blade set. It uses exhaust pressure to provide the counter-torque. It's easier to fix, and it doesn't wear out or require the intensive maintenance that more conventional helo tail-booms require, yet it has the same carrying capacity, and an enhanced reliability.
The Hue Helicopter comes with a four-blade rotor standard, and because it doesn't have the (ridiculously complex) boom assembly, the rotorblades don't have to shift into "Neutral" each time they pass the 6 'oclock position in their rotation. This reduces rotor noise significantly, and reduces rotor-shaft wear.
All attatchments that fit the UH-1 A-H models will fit the Hue, and parts compatibility is 85% between the two types.
Range is somewhat greater, top speed and other statistics are virtually the same.
All Hue models (civilian and military) come with an Aerial refueling port as standard equipment.
(Price available upon request)

Here is a comprehensive list of what we can spare (a lot of our stuff is stockpiled for similar reasons)

We have elected to offer you this material at no charge considering your nations support for the effort in Gabion and also we are intent on develooing long term and lasting relations with your nations as United Elias faces an increasingly drawn out involvement in Southern Africa.

28 Su-17 Ground Ttack Fighters
44 Mi-8 Utility Helicopters
84 T-62D MBTs
12 T-62K Command Tanks
6700 RPG-7s
1200 Strela-7s
48 D-20 152mm Towed Howitzers
18 Kondensator 2P 406mm Self Propelled Howitzer (A RL huge '50s gun for blowing big holes in fortifications)

Here is a comprehensive list of what we can spare (a lot of our stuff is stockpiled for similar reasons)

We have elected to offer you this material at no charge considering your nations support for the effort in Gabion and also we are intent on develooing long term and lasting relations with your nations as United Elias faces an increasingly drawn out involvement in Southern Africa.

28 Su-17 Ground Ttack Fighters
44 Mi-8 Utility Helicopters
84 T-62D MBTs
12 T-62K Command Tanks
6700 RPG-7s
1200 Strela-7s
48 D-20 152mm Towed Howitzers
18 Kondensator 2P 406mm Self Propelled Howitzer (A RL huge '50s gun for blowing big holes in fortifications)

Here is a comprehensive list of what we can spare (a lot of our stuff is stockpiled for similar reasons)

We have elected to offer you this material at no charge considering your nations support for the effort in Gabion and also we are intent on develooing long term and lasting relations with your nations as United Elias faces an increasingly drawn out involvement in Southern Africa.

28 Su-17 Ground Ttack Fighters
44 Mi-8 Utility Helicopters
84 T-62D MBTs
12 T-62K Command Tanks
6700 RPG-7s
1200 Strela-7s
48 D-20 152mm Towed Howitzers
18 Kondensator 2P 406mm Self Propelled Howitzer (A RL huge '50s gun for blowing big holes in fortifications)

We have plenty of what you want right here:

tanks:
50 Churchill/A22 MkVII Crocodiles (personal favorite - with a flamethrower replacing the machine gun) - $550,000/ea
50 Churchill/A22 MkVII's - $500,000/ea
guns:
20,000 tommy guns (with 50- or 100-round magazines) - $2,500,000/all or $150/ea
20,000 AK-47's - $3,600,000/all or $200/ea
50,000 M1911 clones - $50/ea or $2,000,000/all
other stuff:
3,000 jeeps - $5,500/ea
ammo: $100/2500 rounds or $10/200 rounds
tank gun ammo: $30/ea

these are of our manufacture, and we can make more if need be
(still at about WWII-level)

We can sell any amount of Mirage III's, or Mirage F1's, if you have the money. Mirage III is 4 Million a piece.

You know that reminds me, Lusaka is in need of increased battlefield air defence capacity.. SPAAGs and mobile SAMs, since we've a lot of men on the ground in Gabon, and have withdrawn our jets since we probably can't afford to replace any losses. We've got our hands on a fair few hand-held SAMs and have plenty of HMGs, and have a few ZSU-23-4 and SA-9 Gaskin deployed either in Gabon or waiting just across the border in the African Commonwealth, but most of those aren't too advanced, and they certainly aren't much use against high-altitude bombing. Apart from a few old SA-4 Ganef there's not much around to engage such targets, making it difficult for us to advance against the imperialists.


[makes self comfortable in Roycelandia's thread ;) Heh, sorry, sorry..]

OOC:
Want us to deploy more troops to Zanzibar Island AFB?

Chellis: we'll take 24 Mirage III fighters. The Reserve Bank of Roycelandia has transmitted the necessary funds.

We're especially interested in guns at the moment now... preferably of the M91/30, M44, AK-47, M-16, Kar98, SKS, M-1 Garand, MG-42, Degyaretev, and PPSh-38 type.

OOC: There's an AFB on Zanzibar Island? We'll have to order one of our Glowing Sands Missiles targetted there immediately! :twisted:

This sudden interest in SAM defences for Lusaka wouldn't be related to Roycelandia's recent Air Force expansion now, would it? :wink:

Maybe we'll build some more Submarines and Naval Vessels whilst we're at it?

OOC: There's an AFB on Zanzibar Island? We'll have to order one of our Glowing Sands Missiles targetted there immediately! :twisted:

OOC: Yes their is, but an attack on it would be rather... unpleasant for your nation. :wink:

That's OK, we aren't launching any official attacks on Soviet Haaregrad bases... we're just keeping a Glowing Sands Missile targeted there so that in the event of anything happening, someone hits the Emergency Launch Button and everyone runs for the Vaults and Fallout Shelters...

Especially since the Lusakans and the Roycelandians don't trust each other very much... :D

We have a few decommishioned Tiger tanks we'd be willing to sell you. About 20 in stock.

They'll be a steal at 900,000 USD each. It'd take a group of five Shermans to stop one, so I'd get it if I were you.

http://www.granddadshobbyshop.com/TAM35216.jpg

We aren't paying USD$900,000 for Tiger Tanks, especially when they're not going to be fighting Shermans. USD$600,000 each, and we'll take all 20.

How does that sound?

Sold, we are sending you them.

We can also sell you Post 1938 weapons, vehicles, and ammunition. Just ask me about something, I will talk to the weapons manufacturers, and see how much it will cost you. Il-2's are being mass produced currently, so I can sell you a large amount of those if you would like. How's $300K a piece sound, including underwing rocket pods and rockets, Ammo for the 12.7mm and 20mm guns, Fuel, etc.

(We have actual IL-2 Divisions, that strike cities or military bases. They work fairly well, as we usually obtain air superiority with regular fighter jets, and let the IL-2's serve as basically guided weapons systems[not kamimkaze].)

We'll take 100 IL-2 Sturmoviks- Roycelandia uses the Spitfire in an uprgraded form, even today. We've had enormous success with them in every theatre of use, and they've even bought down Modern Jet Fighters who made the mistake of underestimating them- so the IL-2s will complement them nicely...

The Dominion has five million K1A1 assault rifles, essentially licence-built versions of the FN-FAL rifle modified for select fire. Known in Britain as the L1A1 SLR, and in Canada as the C1 assault rifle, the FN-FAL is possibly the world's most successful rifle, used in more than 90 countries. As a number of these rifles have seen extensive use, we request only the most token compensation for them - $400.00 USD or equivalent per rifle. We are replacing the K1A1 model with a dramatically upgraded K1A2 ASLR variant of the venerable FN-FAL, and intend to retain all but the aforementioned five million for reserves and training. Until the advent of the K1A2 ASLR, the FN-FAL was the Dominion's primary battle rifle.

As well, the Browning Hi-Power 1935 remains the primary service pistol of the Dominion Armed Forces, and is in production without modification at Browning/FN Kotterdam plants, and under licence by Viking Firearms. As these are new and not used firearms, we request no less than $350.00 USD or equivalent per pistol.

Would it be possible to rechamber your SLRs for .303 British?

We're OK for handguns at the moment, but would be interested in rechambered .303 SLRs...

The Dominion could rechamber the weapons for .303 British, but it will cost you an extra hundred per weapon for the rechambering, and three 30-round .303 British magazines per rifle.

That will be acceptable... the money is on its way...

We have a number of AK-47 assault rifles (several thousand), around 25 MiG-21 fighters and 40 T-55 battle tanks

8,000 AK-47s @ 200 each = 1,600,000
25 MiG-21s @ 400,000 each = 10,000,000
40 T55s @ 650,000 each = 26,000,000
Total is 37,600,000.

You can have any breakdown you wish of these parts, but you can do your own math - we're just looking to sell off some of our old and unused stock since our military was modernised.

Well, for the low, low price of $37million, we'll take the lot, thanks!

Those Mig-25s will be ideal for Fighter Training and other duties in our incessant African Campaigns! :D

(OOC: Lusaka, are you sure you and the AC don't want to just give me Bukova/Bukoba now and save a lot of hassle? :lol: :D)

It's a done deal - we've got a few other items of around the same era but they're still in service for the time being - but when we do sell them off, you know where to come

Here is a comprehensive list of what we can spare (a lot of our stuff is stockpiled for similar reasons)

We have elected to offer you this material at no charge considering your nations support for the effort in Gabion and also we are intent on develooing long term and lasting relations with your nations as United Elias faces an increasingly drawn out involvement in Southern Africa.

28 Su-17 Ground Ttack Fighters
44 Mi-8 Utility Helicopters
84 T-62D MBTs
12 T-62K Command Tanks
6700 RPG-7s
1200 Strela-7s
48 D-20 152mm Towed Howitzers
18 Kondensator 2P 406mm Self Propelled Howitzer (A RL huge '50s gun for blowing big holes in fortifications)

Do I get a response?

We have a lot of pre-60's junk just lying around.
However, most of it comes iwthout ammunition, which you will have to supply yourself.

AIRCRAFT:
200 Mig-15's.............$4,000 each
300 VX-1 Bombers(really just Retrofitted ME110's that can carry napalm and other liquid munitions).... $5,000 each
500 IL2 Sturmoviks..............$5,500 each

TANKS:
400 T-33's.......................$4,500 each
300 T-54's.......................$5,500 ecah
100 T-64's........................$7,000 each

GUNS:
5,000 Mosin-Nagant Rifles..............$200 each
2,000 9mm Orita Submachineguns..........$250 each

That's all for now.

Dude, you are selling stuff for way less than it costs. In ww2, for example, a P-38 cost $100,000 dollars. You are selling sturmoviks for a 20th of that, not counting inflation of 80 years. your stuff must be like 1/40th scale or something, lol.

Here is a comprehensive list of what we can spare (a lot of our stuff is stockpiled for similar reasons)

We have elected to offer you this material at no charge considering your nations support for the effort in Gabion and also we are intent on develooing long term and lasting relations with your nations as United Elias faces an increasingly drawn out involvement in Southern Africa.

28 Su-17 Ground Ttack Fighters
44 Mi-8 Utility Helicopters
84 T-62D MBTs
12 T-62K Command Tanks
6700 RPG-7s
1200 Strela-7s
48 D-20 152mm Towed Howitzers
18 Kondensator 2P 406mm Self Propelled Howitzer (A RL huge '50s gun for blowing big holes in fortifications)

Do I get a response?

Indeed you do... sorry, I must have overlooked your post whilst I was at Uni today.

The Empire of Roycelandia is only too pleased to accept these gifts from our UE allies, and looks forward to using them to preserve The Empire and maintain peace in Southen Africa.

OOC: Does anyone have any NON-SOVIET stuff at all? We really need British or American weapons to equip Militias etc with...

That will be acceptable... the money is on its way...

And so are the weapons.