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Trade Embargo placed on The Republic of Ilham

Doujin
11-03-2004, 12:34
Due to breach of purchase agreements, and seizure of vessels that have been recalled, Doujin hereby places a Trade Embargo on The Republic of Ilham.

The Republic of Ilham tried to purchase 6 Meteora Class Guided Missiel Cruisers, 1 Lunar Class Aircraft Carrier, and 2 Infusion Class Aircraft Carriers. He also wanted the designs so he could produce them for himself. I denied his requests for designs, and agreed to sell him to him. After heated discussion with The Republic of Ilham, and Illham repeatedly saying they will produce Doujin vessels without authorization, we sent the order to the ships to return to port.

Hours ago, we received word that the vessels were captured by Illham, and he now is in possesion of them and still indends to build more of them. Doujin vessels are all copyrighted and trademarked using the Camdean Copyright and Trademark thread, and I will call upon the protection force of that thread to enforce the copyright laws within it.

At this moment, Doujin is sending two fleets to put an Aerial and Naval blockade of Illham. Illham airspace is designated a No-Fly zone and will be patroled by RF-11 Archangel's.

Doujin Fleet Quickstrike
Fleet Classification: Power Projection

DN Solar - Lunar Class Aircraft Carrier
DN Lunar - Lunar Class Aircraft Carrier
DN Infusion - Infusion Class Aircraft Carrier
DN Sync - Infusion Class Aircraft Carrier
DN Doujin - Doujin Class Battleship
DN Red Cross - Hospital Ship
DN Thistle - Hospital Ship
DN Nebula - Nebula Class AEGIS Destroyer
DN Antares - Nebula Class AEGIS Destroyer
DN Aeon - Nebula Class AEGIS Destroyer
DN Aries - Nebula Class AEGIS Destroyer
DN Adelphi - Nebula Class AEGIS Destroyer
DN Liberty - Nebula Class AEGIS Destroyer
DN Valjean - Seawolf Class FAS
DN Kitara - Seawolf Class FAS
DN Akira - Seawolf Class FAS
DN Maymora - Seawolf Class FAS
DN Magellan - Astron Class FAS
DN Malinche - Astron Class FAS
DN Marauder - Astron Class FAS
DN Shenandoah - Astron Class FAS
DN Deep Angel - Warspite Class SSBN
DN Seleya - Warspite Class SSBN
DN Impulse - Warspite Class SSBN
DN Horizon - Warspite Class SSBN
DN Tribunal - Meteora Class Guided Missile Cruiser
DN Sepulo - Meteora Class Guided Missile Cruiser
DN Hera - Meteora Class Guided Missile Cruiser
DN Ice - Meteora Class Guided Missile Cruiser
DN Stargazer - Zumwalt Destroyer
DN Drake - Zumwalt Destroyer
DN Horatio - Mackensen Class Battleship
DN Defiance - Mackensen Class Battleship
DN Steamrunner - Arepo Class Minesweepers
DN Hood - Arepo Class Minesweepers
DN Dauntless - Norasia Combat Logistic Ship
DN Devoras - Norasia Combat Logistic Ship
DN Endeavor - Norasia Combat Logistic Ship
DN Opportunity - Norasia Combat Logistic Ship
DN Spirit - Valiant Class ASW Frigate
DN Challenger - Valiant Class ASW Frigate
DN Ekina - Valiant Class ASW Frigate
DN Equinox - Valiant Class ASW Frigate
DN Solsctice - Valiant Class ASW Frigate
DN Exeter - Valiant Class ASW Frigate
DN Fearless - Defiance Class Light Frigate
DN Archangel - Defiance Class Light Frigate
DN Erewon - Defiance Class Light Frigate
DN Excalibur - Defiance Class Light Frigate
DN Midgard - Spearhead Class HSV
DN Excelsior - Spearhead Class HSV
DN Farragut - Spearhead Class HSV
DN Tempest - Spearhead Class HSV
DN Galileo - Thatcher Class Destroyer
DN Galaxy - Thatcher Class Destroyer
DN Fesarius - Thatcher Class Destroyer
DN Thatcher - Thatcher Class Destroyer
(Not named: 8 Visby Class corvettes, 25 Hover Patrol Boats, 25 Pegasus Patrol Craft, 10 Skjold Class Patrol Craft.)

Doujin Fleet Barric
Fleet Classification: Blockade Group

DN Gage - Infusion Class Carrier
DN Galidor - Infusion Class Carrier
DN Eden - Doujin Class Battleship
DN Gandes - Arepo Class Minesweeper
DN Milan - Arepo Class Minesweeper
DN Lakota - Zumwalt Class Destroyer
DN Nobel - Zumwalt Class Destroyer
DN Kearsarge - Sea Horse Class FAS
DN Odin - Sea Horse Class FAS
DN Potemkin - Sea Wolf Class FAS
DN Destiny - Sea Wolf Class FAS
DN Goddard - Astron Class FAS
DN Lexington - Astron Class FAS
DN Lalo - Astron Class FAS
DN Hideki - Astron Class FAS
DN Insurrection - Hovercraft Deep Sea Transport
DN Miranda - Hovercraft Deep Sea Transport
DN Jenolen - Valiant Class ASW Frigate
DN Odyssey - Valiant Class ASW Frigate
DN Galor - Valiant Class ASW Frigate
DN Valiant - Valiant Class ASW Frigate
DN Merrimack - Meteora Class Guided Missile Cruiser
DN Kataan - Meteora Class Guided Missile Cruiser
DN Olympia - Meteora Class Guided Missile Cruiser
DN LaSalle - Meteora Class Guided Missile Cruiser
DN Orinoco - Norasia Class Combat Logistics Ship
DN Gettysburg - Norasia Class Combat Logistics Ship
DN Honshu - Defiance Class Light Frigate
DN Prokofiev - Defiance Class Light Frigate
DN Majestic - Defiance Class Light Frigate
DN Proxima - Defiance Class Light Frigate
DN Gandhi - Defiance Class Light Frigate
DN Lantree - Defiance Class Light Frigate
(Not named: 6 Visby Class Corvettes, 40 Pegasus Patrol Craft, 40 Hover Patrol Boats.)

Aircraft on each carrier:

Infusion Class:

35 RF-11
35 DD-3 Sabertooth
5 E2-D Hawkeye
5 AC-150 Tankers
10 DD-2 Infiniti
10 ASW Sea King Helicopters

Lunar Class:

35 RF-11
35 DD-3 Sabertooth
5 S-3C Vikings
10 ASW Sea King Helicopters
10 DD-2 Infiniti
2 C2-A Greyhounds
3 E2-D Hawkeye
5 EA-6B Prowlers


We hope the international community will stand by Doujin and help protect it's international trade.
Aust
11-03-2004, 17:34
In my experiance trade embarfgos don't really work, I would try to get your allys to eather attack him or at least force him to give your ships back.
Doujin
11-03-2004, 18:37
Diplomacy first, Aust. Embargo = pressure. If he tries to break it, then he is invaded. The Power Projection fleet has an armored division on the ships ready to land, with 2 infantry divisions on stand-by.
Nuevo Kowloon
11-03-2004, 22:08
Due to breach of purchase agreements, and seizure of vessels that have been recalled, Doujin hereby places a Trade Embargo on The Republic of Ilham.

The Republic of Ilham tried to purchase 6 Meteora Class Guided Missiel Cruisers, 1 Lunar Class Aircraft Carrier, and 2 Infusion Class Aircraft Carriers. He also wanted the designs so he could produce them for himself. I denied his requests for designs, and agreed to sell him to him. After heated discussion with The Republic of Ilham, and Illham repeatedly saying they will produce Doujin vessels without authorization, we sent the order to the ships to return to port.

Hours ago, we received word that the vessels were captured by Illham, and he now is in possesion of them and still indends to build more of them. Doujin vessels are all copyrighted and trademarked using the Camdean Copyright and Trademark thread, and I will call upon the protection force of that thread to enforce the copyright laws within it.

At this moment, Doujin is sending two fleets to put an Aerial and Naval blockade of Illham. Illham airspace is designated a No-Fly zone and will be patroled by RF-11 Archangel's.

Doujin Fleet Quickstrike
Fleet Classification: Power Projection

DN Solar - Lunar Class Aircraft Carrier
DN Lunar - Lunar Class Aircraft Carrier
DN Infusion - Infusion Class Aircraft Carrier
DN Sync - Infusion Class Aircraft Carrier
DN Doujin - Doujin Class Battleship
DN Red Cross - Hospital Ship
DN Thistle - Hospital Ship
DN Nebula - Nebula Class AEGIS Destroyer
DN Antares - Nebula Class AEGIS Destroyer
DN Aeon - Nebula Class AEGIS Destroyer
DN Aries - Nebula Class AEGIS Destroyer
DN Adelphi - Nebula Class AEGIS Destroyer
DN Liberty - Nebula Class AEGIS Destroyer
DN Valjean - Seawolf Class FAS
DN Kitara - Seawolf Class FAS
DN Akira - Seawolf Class FAS
DN Maymora - Seawolf Class FAS
DN Magellan - Astron Class FAS
DN Malinche - Astron Class FAS
DN Marauder - Astron Class FAS
DN Shenandoah - Astron Class FAS
DN Deep Angel - Warspite Class SSBN
DN Seleya - Warspite Class SSBN
DN Impulse - Warspite Class SSBN
DN Horizon - Warspite Class SSBN
DN Tribunal - Meteora Class Guided Missile Cruiser
DN Sepulo - Meteora Class Guided Missile Cruiser
DN Hera - Meteora Class Guided Missile Cruiser
DN Ice - Meteora Class Guided Missile Cruiser
DN Stargazer - Zumwalt Destroyer
DN Drake - Zumwalt Destroyer
DN Horatio - Mackensen Class Battleship
DN Defiance - Mackensen Class Battleship
DN Steamrunner - Arepo Class Minesweepers
DN Hood - Arepo Class Minesweepers
DN Dauntless - Norasia Combat Logistic Ship
DN Devoras - Norasia Combat Logistic Ship
DN Endeavor - Norasia Combat Logistic Ship
DN Opportunity - Norasia Combat Logistic Ship
DN Spirit - Valiant Class ASW Frigate
DN Challenger - Valiant Class ASW Frigate
DN Ekina - Valiant Class ASW Frigate
DN Equinox - Valiant Class ASW Frigate
DN Solsctice - Valiant Class ASW Frigate
DN Exeter - Valiant Class ASW Frigate
DN Fearless - Defiance Class Light Frigate
DN Archangel - Defiance Class Light Frigate
DN Erewon - Defiance Class Light Frigate
DN Excalibur - Defiance Class Light Frigate
DN Midgard - Spearhead Class HSV
DN Excelsior - Spearhead Class HSV
DN Farragut - Spearhead Class HSV
DN Tempest - Spearhead Class HSV
DN Galileo - Thatcher Class Destroyer
DN Galaxy - Thatcher Class Destroyer
DN Fesarius - Thatcher Class Destroyer
DN Thatcher - Thatcher Class Destroyer
(Not named: 8 Visby Class corvettes, 25 Hover Patrol Boats, 25 Pegasus Patrol Craft, 10 Skjold Class Patrol Craft.)

Doujin Fleet Barric
Fleet Classification: Blockade Group

DN Gage - Infusion Class Carrier
DN Galidor - Infusion Class Carrier
DN Eden - Doujin Class Battleship
DN Gandes - Arepo Class Minesweeper
DN Milan - Arepo Class Minesweeper
DN Lakota - Zumwalt Class Destroyer
DN Nobel - Zumwalt Class Destroyer
DN Kearsarge - Sea Horse Class FAS
DN Odin - Sea Horse Class FAS
DN Potemkin - Sea Wolf Class FAS
DN Destiny - Sea Wolf Class FAS
DN Goddard - Astron Class FAS
DN Lexington - Astron Class FAS
DN Lalo - Astron Class FAS
DN Hideki - Astron Class FAS
DN Insurrection - Hovercraft Deep Sea Transport
DN Miranda - Hovercraft Deep Sea Transport
DN Jenolen - Valiant Class ASW Frigate
DN Odyssey - Valiant Class ASW Frigate
DN Galor - Valiant Class ASW Frigate
DN Valiant - Valiant Class ASW Frigate
DN Merrimack - Meteora Class Guided Missile Cruiser
DN Kataan - Meteora Class Guided Missile Cruiser
DN Olympia - Meteora Class Guided Missile Cruiser
DN LaSalle - Meteora Class Guided Missile Cruiser
DN Orinoco - Norasia Class Combat Logistics Ship
DN Gettysburg - Norasia Class Combat Logistics Ship
DN Honshu - Defiance Class Light Frigate
DN Prokofiev - Defiance Class Light Frigate
DN Majestic - Defiance Class Light Frigate
DN Proxima - Defiance Class Light Frigate
DN Gandhi - Defiance Class Light Frigate
DN Lantree - Defiance Class Light Frigate
(Not named: 6 Visby Class Corvettes, 40 Pegasus Patrol Craft, 40 Hover Patrol Boats.)

Aircraft on each carrier:

Infusion Class:

35 RF-11
35 DD-3 Sabertooth
5 E2-D Hawkeye
5 AC-150 Tankers
10 DD-2 Infiniti
10 ASW Sea King Helicopters

Lunar Class:

35 RF-11
35 DD-3 Sabertooth
5 S-3C Vikings
10 ASW Sea King Helicopters
10 DD-2 Infiniti
2 C2-A Greyhounds
3 E2-D Hawkeye
5 EA-6B Prowlers


We hope the international community will stand by Doujin and help protect it's international trade.

While we recognize your obvious military force, you have no right to interfere with our shipping throught hat area, or our trade with Ilham, merely because your negotiators could not get the price they desired.


As a non-signatory to your "Copyright" agreements, We do not see any legal justifications for your no-fly zones or your interceptions.

We have trade agreements with Ilham for medical technologies, (Not touched by your "Copyright"), We have no such agreements with your nation. IF you can demonstrate that the Ilhamese have done something beyond not-conforming to your domestic Intellectual Property Laws, We will reconsider.

Nuevo Kowloon is not sigantory to any international agreements regarding your "Copyrights", We see that Ilham is not a signatory either.
You certainly Should encourage your strategic partners to withold their own trade with Ilham, but if you interfere in the trade of Neutrals-that's High-Seas Piracy, if you enforce your "No Fly Zone" against Civilian Transports, that's MURDER.

I suggest you reconsider.
Nuevo Kowloon
11-03-2004, 22:10
Due to breach of purchase agreements, and seizure of vessels that have been recalled, Doujin hereby places a Trade Embargo on The Republic of Ilham.

The Republic of Ilham tried to purchase 6 Meteora Class Guided Missiel Cruisers, 1 Lunar Class Aircraft Carrier, and 2 Infusion Class Aircraft Carriers. He also wanted the designs so he could produce them for himself. I denied his requests for designs, and agreed to sell him to him. After heated discussion with The Republic of Ilham, and Illham repeatedly saying they will produce Doujin vessels without authorization, we sent the order to the ships to return to port.

Hours ago, we received word that the vessels were captured by Illham, and he now is in possesion of them and still indends to build more of them. Doujin vessels are all copyrighted and trademarked using the Camdean Copyright and Trademark thread, and I will call upon the protection force of that thread to enforce the copyright laws within it.

At this moment, Doujin is sending two fleets to put an Aerial and Naval blockade of Illham. Illham airspace is designated a No-Fly zone and will be patroled by RF-11 Archangel's.

Doujin Fleet Quickstrike
Fleet Classification: Power Projection

DN Solar - Lunar Class Aircraft Carrier
DN Lunar - Lunar Class Aircraft Carrier
DN Infusion - Infusion Class Aircraft Carrier
DN Sync - Infusion Class Aircraft Carrier
DN Doujin - Doujin Class Battleship
DN Red Cross - Hospital Ship
DN Thistle - Hospital Ship
DN Nebula - Nebula Class AEGIS Destroyer
DN Antares - Nebula Class AEGIS Destroyer
DN Aeon - Nebula Class AEGIS Destroyer
DN Aries - Nebula Class AEGIS Destroyer
DN Adelphi - Nebula Class AEGIS Destroyer
DN Liberty - Nebula Class AEGIS Destroyer
DN Valjean - Seawolf Class FAS
DN Kitara - Seawolf Class FAS
DN Akira - Seawolf Class FAS
DN Maymora - Seawolf Class FAS
DN Magellan - Astron Class FAS
DN Malinche - Astron Class FAS
DN Marauder - Astron Class FAS
DN Shenandoah - Astron Class FAS
DN Deep Angel - Warspite Class SSBN
DN Seleya - Warspite Class SSBN
DN Impulse - Warspite Class SSBN
DN Horizon - Warspite Class SSBN
DN Tribunal - Meteora Class Guided Missile Cruiser
DN Sepulo - Meteora Class Guided Missile Cruiser
DN Hera - Meteora Class Guided Missile Cruiser
DN Ice - Meteora Class Guided Missile Cruiser
DN Stargazer - Zumwalt Destroyer
DN Drake - Zumwalt Destroyer
DN Horatio - Mackensen Class Battleship
DN Defiance - Mackensen Class Battleship
DN Steamrunner - Arepo Class Minesweepers
DN Hood - Arepo Class Minesweepers
DN Dauntless - Norasia Combat Logistic Ship
DN Devoras - Norasia Combat Logistic Ship
DN Endeavor - Norasia Combat Logistic Ship
DN Opportunity - Norasia Combat Logistic Ship
DN Spirit - Valiant Class ASW Frigate
DN Challenger - Valiant Class ASW Frigate
DN Ekina - Valiant Class ASW Frigate
DN Equinox - Valiant Class ASW Frigate
DN Solsctice - Valiant Class ASW Frigate
DN Exeter - Valiant Class ASW Frigate
DN Fearless - Defiance Class Light Frigate
DN Archangel - Defiance Class Light Frigate
DN Erewon - Defiance Class Light Frigate
DN Excalibur - Defiance Class Light Frigate
DN Midgard - Spearhead Class HSV
DN Excelsior - Spearhead Class HSV
DN Farragut - Spearhead Class HSV
DN Tempest - Spearhead Class HSV
DN Galileo - Thatcher Class Destroyer
DN Galaxy - Thatcher Class Destroyer
DN Fesarius - Thatcher Class Destroyer
DN Thatcher - Thatcher Class Destroyer
(Not named: 8 Visby Class corvettes, 25 Hover Patrol Boats, 25 Pegasus Patrol Craft, 10 Skjold Class Patrol Craft.)

Doujin Fleet Barric
Fleet Classification: Blockade Group

DN Gage - Infusion Class Carrier
DN Galidor - Infusion Class Carrier
DN Eden - Doujin Class Battleship
DN Gandes - Arepo Class Minesweeper
DN Milan - Arepo Class Minesweeper
DN Lakota - Zumwalt Class Destroyer
DN Nobel - Zumwalt Class Destroyer
DN Kearsarge - Sea Horse Class FAS
DN Odin - Sea Horse Class FAS
DN Potemkin - Sea Wolf Class FAS
DN Destiny - Sea Wolf Class FAS
DN Goddard - Astron Class FAS
DN Lexington - Astron Class FAS
DN Lalo - Astron Class FAS
DN Hideki - Astron Class FAS
DN Insurrection - Hovercraft Deep Sea Transport
DN Miranda - Hovercraft Deep Sea Transport
DN Jenolen - Valiant Class ASW Frigate
DN Odyssey - Valiant Class ASW Frigate
DN Galor - Valiant Class ASW Frigate
DN Valiant - Valiant Class ASW Frigate
DN Merrimack - Meteora Class Guided Missile Cruiser
DN Kataan - Meteora Class Guided Missile Cruiser
DN Olympia - Meteora Class Guided Missile Cruiser
DN LaSalle - Meteora Class Guided Missile Cruiser
DN Orinoco - Norasia Class Combat Logistics Ship
DN Gettysburg - Norasia Class Combat Logistics Ship
DN Honshu - Defiance Class Light Frigate
DN Prokofiev - Defiance Class Light Frigate
DN Majestic - Defiance Class Light Frigate
DN Proxima - Defiance Class Light Frigate
DN Gandhi - Defiance Class Light Frigate
DN Lantree - Defiance Class Light Frigate
(Not named: 6 Visby Class Corvettes, 40 Pegasus Patrol Craft, 40 Hover Patrol Boats.)

Aircraft on each carrier:

Infusion Class:

35 RF-11
35 DD-3 Sabertooth
5 E2-D Hawkeye
5 AC-150 Tankers
10 DD-2 Infiniti
10 ASW Sea King Helicopters

Lunar Class:

35 RF-11
35 DD-3 Sabertooth
5 S-3C Vikings
10 ASW Sea King Helicopters
10 DD-2 Infiniti
2 C2-A Greyhounds
3 E2-D Hawkeye
5 EA-6B Prowlers


We hope the international community will stand by Doujin and help protect it's international trade.

While we recognize your obvious military force, you have no right to interfere with our shipping throught hat area, or our trade with Ilham, merely because your negotiators could not get the price they desired.


As a non-signatory to your "Copyright" agreements, We do not see any legal justifications for your no-fly zones or your interceptions.

We have trade agreements with Ilham for medical technologies, (Not touched by your "Copyright"), We have no such agreements with your nation. IF you can demonstrate that the Ilhamese have done something beyond not-conforming to your domestic Intellectual Property Laws, We will reconsider.

Nuevo Kowloon is not sigantory to any international agreements regarding your "Copyrights", We see that Ilham is not a signatory either.
You certainly Should encourage your strategic partners to withold their own trade with Ilham, but if you interfere in the trade of Neutrals-that's High-Seas Piracy, if you enforce your "No Fly Zone" against Civilian Transports, that's MURDER.

I suggest you reconsider.
Doujin
12-03-2004, 01:18
Thank you, Nuevo Kowloon. Two more Fleets are moving into the area, along with 3rd Mechanized Corp and 2nd Infantry Corp. Doujin is at it's highest alert, and preparing to invade Ilham unless the stolen military vessels are returned. I do not take kindly to people stealing from me.
Nuevo Kowloon
12-03-2004, 02:04
Thank you, Nuevo Kowloon. Two more Fleets are moving into the area, along with 3rd Mechanized Corp and 2nd Infantry Corp. Doujin is at it's highest alert, and preparing to invade Ilham unless the stolen military vessels are returned. I do not take kindly to people stealing from me.

Let me see if I understand this correctly...

1. He buys ships from you, and offers to buy production designs.
2. You said "No"
3. Debate-I presume he paid for the ships themselves?
4. Heated debate, money in hand, you try to recall the ships?
5. He doesn't give them back after he's paid for them-so this is Stealing?


did you include, in the contract terms of sale, a clause stating that the sales were only a lease-for-usage agreement (common among some Software makers)?

Unless Ilham has refused to pay for the goods, you don't have a case, and are acting irresponsibly.
Ilham
13-03-2004, 01:35
OOC:ok guys this war rp is good but just to let you know I have mid-semester exams right around the corner and I don't have the time to rp right now.Put this on hold for a month or so ok.

IC:Ilham troops mibilised their full strength,ready to repel the invaders.No matter the cost,the homeland would be defended.They did not care.They would prepare reasons for that moronic nation Doujin to cease this blockade.Still,they had their southern trade route.The military was slowly staging a counterattack to break the blockade with the full force of the military and navy.The blockade was only affecting the capital of Ilham City,which was heavily defended by the Deathwatch Regiment of the Royal Family.,as well as the most important and one of 4 major cities in Ilham.

In the mountain range ensconed within the deep jungles of Ilham,the mountain fortress of Mount Ilador turned its massive guns towards sea,waiting for an excuse to open fire.So far,they had stayed in international waters.As for the airforce,they had scrambled to intercept the planes which had already entered Ilhami airspace.SAM sites were activated as the whole air defence network was brought online,with the electronic defence networks setting up a defensive electronic screen for important assets.

All outlying Navy groups except the Peacemaker Expeditionary Group which was deployed to Hogsweat made at full speed for Ilham City Gulf while the Police Coast Guard activated it reserves.Throughout Ilham's many islands,an open mobilisation of all military reserves was orchestrated,while police reserves were activated as well,with M-16s and FN-P90's handed out to the reservists soldiers.Meanwhile,normal civilians stockpiled vital supplies and readied their homemade weapons,air guns,blade of all sorts and Molotov cocktails ready for war.

Within secondary schools and neighbourhoods,gun clubs handed out weapons and ammuntion to their neighbours,all ready for the inevitable.

*Message to Doujin*
After buying the ships,I reserved the right to produce templates of them for myself to expand my navy.Think of a writer copying the notes he bought from someon for his new book.He is never going to sell that book but keep it within the family.You already had my assurance well before I bought it that those ships would be produced only for my own navy and would not be sold.I bought them,I bought the right to maintain them for my navy,I bought the right to modify and upgrade them,and I can examine them and produce them for myself as I see fit.You have my assurance that they will not be sold to others.Now dismantle this foolsih naval blockade of yours or I will.

Furthermore,we are NOT a signatory of any agreements with you.We will respect your copyright and produce these ships only for ourselves.

With that said,any invasion of land troops or navy will be met with force.We restrained ourselves from destroying your air forces as they obeyed us and exited our airspace,given the firepower that they faced.

Any use of Nuclear,Biological or Chemical Weapons on your part will be met with similar usage on our part.Hopefully it will not come to that.

*Message to Nuevo Kowloon*
We thank you for the aid on our part.As part of the Global Defence Initiative,we have our own obligations.Currently,we have a battle group dispatched to Hogsweat,so we are recalling all our current battle groups to ward off this blockade.

Feel free to send reinforcements,but not just yet.They violated our airspce but we will forgive them for that act.We will wait for them to remove themselves.

OOC:soory guys,but put this on hold.have to study for mid-semester exams.good luck all and have a good week.
Doujin
13-03-2004, 02:31
Just to let you know, you can't say what my forces do or not do.
Ilham
14-03-2004, 07:08
Military Strength of Ilham

Overview: Ilham possesses a very militaristic culture bound by a respect for strength and discipline, with a mystic warrior philosophy, named Ilku, embraced by their people as a whole. From a young age, children are taught to fight with blades and taught martial arts, to use their mind, body and spirit as a whole and to excel in whatever they do. They are altruistic by nature as well as compassionate and are polite to a fault. However, when roused, they will go to the very extreme to ensure that their enemy is defeated. They are very skilled in close/melee combat as a whole.

Their traditional strengths are in guerrilla warfare, counter-insurgency, espionage, jungle warfare, mountain warfare and urban warfare. They are skilled sailors as well.

They live in an island archipelago with dense jungle, highlands, mountainous terrain and a few major cities which are very densely built up urban environments which attempt to harmonise nature and technology.

Police Forces: Police forces in Ilham are issued military-grade weapons and are taught lethal martial arts. They are used in a paramilitary role as well as law-enforcement role and are skilled in counter-insurgency and urban warfare. They present a credible threat to any invader due to their use of military-grade weaponry. They use helicopters and light tanks in the urban role.

Armed Forces:
(5% of polulation) Regulars + NSFs
(10% of population) Reservists
Deathwatch (20 000)[under command of Royal Family]

Army:
Elite Forces:
200 Malay Regiments (1000 in each Regiment so 200 000)
200 Gurkha Rifles (1000 in each; so 200 000)
150 Sepoy Blades (2000 in each regiment; so 300 000)
Commandoes (60 000)
Rangers (50 000)
Paratroopers [Airborne/Air Force] (50 000)
Scout Ranger

5 divisions: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th
[Manpower of army equal to 50% of armed forces]

1 division = (1/5 of all army) men inclusive of Infantry,Artillery, Signals, Medical Corps, Guards(serves in same role as Rangers and Marines; elite infantry),Armoured Brigade[1000 APC’s,1000 MBT’s(Leclerc, Merkava 3/4, Tempest), Primus, Bionix IFV, Terrex, Bronco, Stryker, assorted artillery and tanks], Medical Corps.

Navy:
[All ships in Navy defended by a complement of 50 elite Naval Divers (equal to USN Seals)]
[Manpower of navy = 30% of armed forces]
[All supply ships have onboard fabrication facilities to make weapons]

Coastal Defence:
Use of various classes of Corvettes, Missile Gunboats, Ros-Class Frigates, Patrol Vessels(PVs).

3 carrier groups
1st Carrier Group
1 Nimitz-Class Carrier (50 F-22 Raptors, 25 RF-23 Nephites, 10 Black Hawk Helicopters, 20 RF-11D Archangels)
1 Ilador-Class Battleship (Emancipator of Will/Flagship)
2 Iowa-Class Battleships
8 Ticonderoga-Class Cruisers
10 Arleigh Burke-Class Destroyers
20 Perry-Class Frigates
12 Oilers

2nd Carrier Group
1 Infusion-Class Pentamaran Hull Carrier (F/A 22 Raptor Air Domination Fighter)
2 Toryu-Class Battleships
18 Orion-Class Cruisers
8 Ticonderoga-Class Cruisers
20 Aries Tiger-Class Destroyers
25 Delta-Class Submarines
25 Sea Wolf Class Fast Attack Submarines
32 Ros-Class Stealth Frigate
35 Delta Formidable-Class Stealth Frigates
9 Hsien Loong-Class Fleet Auxillaries (200 000 tons of supplies/munitions/fuel/food)

3rd Carrier Group
1 Nicholas Kerensky-Class CVN Carrier (RF-11D Archangels)
1 Nimitz-Ilham Class CVN (30 RF-11D Archangels, 30 F/A-22 Raptors, 25 RF-23 Nephites)
6 Iowa-Class Battleships
6 Ilador-Class Battleships
22 Orion-Class Cruisers
22 Aries Tiger-Class Destroyer
26 Adnan Saidi-Class Missile Destroyer
30 Ros-Class Stealth Frigate
35 Formidable/Delta-Class Stealth Frigate



1st Expeditionary Group
1 Iowa-Class Battleship (Overlord-Flagship/Command & Control)
2 Ilador-Class Battleships (Pillager of Pride, Tears of Morning)
3 Kuan Yew-Class Troopships [5000 troops/40000 tons of supplies each]
5 Adnan Saidi-Class Missile Destroyers
15 Scorpene-Class Diesel Electric Submarines
20 Delta-Class Stealth Frigates (ASW/AA/AS roles) [NH-90 ASW Helicopter]
3 Sjoormen 3 Ilham-Class Submarines (ASW/AS/ Naval Diver Delivery System)

2nd Expeditionary Group
1 Ilador-Class Battleship (Sarawak)
6 Kuan Yew-Class Troopships [5000 troops/40 000 tons of supplies each]
2 T-AO 187 Henry J. Kaiser-Class Fleet Oilers
4 Orion-Class Cruisers
6 Ticonderoga-Class Cruisers
9 Adnan Saidi-Class Missile Destroyers
10 Endurance 2-Class LPDs (400 regular troops, 50 Naval Divers, 20 MBTs/50 various vehicles/3 large helicopters)
Franklin Osis-Class CVL Light Carrier (20 F-35B JSF, 10 Black Hawk 3 Helicopters)
16 Formidable/Delta-Class Stealth Frigate

Peacemaker Expeditionary Group
1 Ilador-Class Battleship (God of War/Flagship)
3 Iowa-Class Battleships (Bloody Heart, Bloody Fist, Bloody Foot)
6 Meteora-Class Trimaran Cruisers (refitted with Aegis system upgrades to increase air defence capability)
7 Adnan Saidi-Class Missile Destroyers
15 Delta-Class Steath Frigates (ASW role, with Firefly UAV/Cruise missile)
15 Sea Wolf-Class Fast Attack Submarines
2 Kuan Yew-Class Troopships [5000 troops/40 000 tons of supplies each]
4 Hsien Loong-Class Fleet Auxillary Ships [200 000 tons of supplies/munitions/food/fuel]
2 MCM1 Avenger Mine Countermeasures Vessels
1 T-AO 187 Henry J. Kaiser-Class Fleet Oilers


Peacekeeper Expeditionary Group
2 Kuan-Yew Class Troopship [5000 troops/30 000 tons of supplies each]
1 Iowa-Class Battleship(Sang Harimau)[Flagship]
6 Meteora-Class Trimaran Cruisers[Sang Kancil(cruise missile platform), Sang Wira, Pontianak, Hantu, Nighthawk, Padishah, Ayahtollah]
1 Lunar-Class Stealth Aircraft Carrier(35 RF-23 Nephite Cloaked Fighter,35 F/A-22 Raptor Air Domination Stealth Fighter,20 Su-37-1800 "Super Flanker" Raysian Special, 3 AWACs, 2 C-130 Hercules Naval Variants,10 Su-37-1820 E-Type Jet Fighters Special Ops Variant)
10 Endurance 2-Class LPDs (400 regular troops, 50 Naval Divers, 20 MBTs/50 various vehicles/3 large helicopters)
6 Spearhead-Class Catamaran Transports (970 infantry/550 tons vehicles & equipment)/(docking 2 LCAC Hovercraft Transports)
4 Hsien Loong-Class Fleet Auxillary Ships [200 000 tons of supplies/munitions/food/fuel]
21 Delta/Super La-Fayatte-Class Stealth Frigates with NH-90 (Anti-sub/air/ship role)
21 Sea Wolf-Class Fast Attack Submarines




1 Infusion-Class Pentamaran Hull Aircraft Carriers (undeployed reserve)
1 Nimitz-Carrier (Reserve). Doctrine is based around submarine, battleship, carrier.
Task forces are assembled and drawn from various fleets. Many Classes of ships in reserve.


Ilador-Class Battleship

A powerful ship with unmatched manoeuvrability, resilience, stealth, defence and firepower. Powered by laser fusion reactors, it is environmentally safer than most other ships which utilise nuclear fission of uranium or plutonium.

Length: 360 metres
Height: 55 metres
Width: 20 metres
Displacement: Full Load- 300 000 metric tons

Defence Systems:
Decoy/Chaff/Flare Dispensers
Electronic Warfare Suite
Noisemaker/Decoy Dispenser
Tri-titanium Double Hull
2 metres of Steel-Carbon Polymer Composite
(Under layer of armour) 1 metre of Titanium Carbon Polymer Composite
Stealth System (90% reduced radar/thermal/sonar signature)
Anti-Missile Defences (30 mm anti-missile guns for point-defence)
Bracings and a compartmentalised design render the ship even more durable

Power Plant:
6 Laser Fusion Reactors (30 MW)

Propulsion:
Rear Water Jets
Forward Water Jets
Attitude Water Jets (placed along sides)

Armaments:
56 Cruise Missiles
6 Torpedo Launchers (3/side)
22 76mm CIWS (Anti-aircraft/missile)
10 500mm Barrage Guns (Range 55 km)
12 125mm Barrage Guns (Range 70 km)
32 Anti-Ship Missiles (Hypersonic/Subsonic missiles)
1 Anti-Missile Laser Systems(Boils away missile/Water-cooled)[6 shots/minute]
60 30mm Point Assault Cannons (Anti-aircraft/missile/ship)

Systems:
3-Dimensional Radar
Active/Passive Hull Sonar System
Command & Control Systems (ability to be used as flagship)
Towed Array Sonar System
Sonar Masking System
Active/Passive Radar Detectors
Active Electronic Scrambler

Air Force
(20% of Armed Forces)

F-22 Raptor Air Domination/Tactical Aero Fighter
F-15 Air Superiority Fighter
F-35 Multi-role Fighter
AV-8B STOVL Harrier
Su-37 Flanker
A-10 Warthog Ground Attack Fighter
AH-64 Apache
RH-66 Commanche
F-13 Ilham Foxscream Multi-role Fighter

1st Expeditionary Air Fleet
6 Defenders
3 Sky-bases (Gandhi/Melchior/Solo)
26 Raysian Eagles
20 RF-11D Archangels (10 reserve)
36 RF-23 Nephite Stealth Fighters
2 V-44 War Mover’s
30 SU-37-1800 Super Flanker Raysian Special
2 Chinooks
Ilham
14-03-2004, 07:22
As the enemy RF-11s entered Ilham airspace,attempting to enforce the block,they reported multiple missile locks,as well as electronic defences being activated within Ilham,scrambling communications. In heavy pursuit of them as they entered the space over the capital city,were up to a hundred Raptors and Archangels as well as the entire 1st Expeditionary Air Fleet.

They were given an ultimatum.Clear Ilham airspace within the next few hours and head into international airspace or face the combined firepower of the Air Force and Army Air Defence Corps as well as the Navy,just off the coast.The klaxon warning of multiple missile locks was presumably heard within the cockpits of the Doujin planes.

Meanwhile,the entire Navy had assembld just off the capital city's coast,the naval blockade of the Doujin barely visible off the horizon.All except the Peacemaker Expeditionary Group which was deployed to Hogsweat were assembled into the single largest Ilhami battlegroup in recorded Ilhami history.

In a giant flotilla,they awaited the response.And so the standoff would begin.
14-03-2004, 11:43
Just to let you know, you can't say what my forces do or not do.
OOC: Hes right there.
Right IC:
Official warning to doujin:
As a member of the GDI Ilham is liable for support from all members, i myself will be sending around 2 small flottilas, but i will be readying all troops for a push past your forces. As acting leader(hogsweat has a military coup on his hands right now) of the GDI i will call upon all; members to aid him, so withdraw before its to late(that goes to any of his allies also).
OOC2: ill post more later.
Nuevo Kowloon
14-03-2004, 12:09
Looped message to both Doujin and Ilham... broadcast, in fact, it's audible on virtually any reciever capable of AM, FM, or Shortwave reception within a thousand miles of Nuevo Kowloon... which means the Flotillas and Military Bases in and around Ilham can recieve it easily...


Female voice:
"This can be resolved without bloodshed, gentlemen, please. This region has enough trouble without a major war breaking out.
Doujin, your Blockade and No Fly zone is wreaking havoc for neutrals in the region who aren't even trading with Ilham, and the proximity of that many Nuclear-Armed ships is a serious threat to regional stability.
Ilham, We can help-your Stealthing tech is already very good, you don't need those carriers-they're not worth trashing the whole region to study.

Both of you, before this becomes a bloodbath, please, meet-meet here, on neutral ground, we can work out a compromise before people die who don't have to.

Bring this to mediation, there is still time!

This message will repeat in Five, four, three, two, one..."

then, it begins again, in a different language each time, it is an attempt to try and reach every pair of ears regardless of what they speak.
Doujin
14-03-2004, 14:00
Ok, Ilham, there is no way you have that many ships in your Navy. I am older than you and I don't even use that many ships. And your military should NEVER be above 1% of your population. NEVER. Realistically you can only have 1 surface combatant ship per million in population... you claim to have over 620 surface combatant ships! Godmod right there.

And I would like to know where you got the spearhead class ship, because I never sold any to you therefor you do not have the designs to them..

And, if you are going to try and design a Battleship, at least do some research at what is possible and what is not.

And with the other ships you "designed" I do not take them as ships until you post information about them. Statistics, and what not. I will not accept them as ships. And I do not accept any of the Raysian ships you claim to have, until I have confirmation from Raysia that you actually own them. All I see in Raysia's storefront is you attempting to purchase enough ships for your fleet, but Raysia never getting back to you.
14-03-2004, 16:23
Ok, Ilham, there is no way you have that many ships in your Navy. I am older than you and I don't even use that many ships. And your military should NEVER be above 1% of your population. NEVER. Realistically you can only have 1 surface combatant ship per million in population... you claim to have over 620 surface combatant ships! Godmod right there.

And I would like to know where you got the spearhead class ship, because I never sold any to you therefor you do not have the designs to them..

And, if you are going to try and design a Battleship, at least do some research at what is possible and what is not.

And with the other ships you "designed" I do not take them as ships until you post information about them. Statistics, and what not. I will not accept them as ships. And I do not accept any of the Raysian ships you claim to have, until I have confirmation from Raysia that you actually own them. All I see in Raysia's storefront is you attempting to purchase enough ships for your fleet, but Raysia never getting back to you.
Um, actually 5% is the official largest ammount without being liable to be called a Godmoder. Check out the threads about the size of the military and the such, written, i think, by Clan Smoke Jaguar(is that spelt right?) And also, 620 ships may be a lot, but is Ilham a mainly naval nation? If so he has more right to do something like that, but it is still a lot, but compared to the USA in the 70s it is not at all.
Fluffywuffy
14-03-2004, 16:41
"Although Ilham may have stolen some ships, we do not find a need for war here. Should both sides be willing, this can easily be resolved peacefully"

-Tony Shen, Minister of Foriegn Affairs

BTW, are my ships done yet?
Ubumedu
14-03-2004, 16:45
And I would like to know where you got the spearhead class ship, because I never sold any to you therefor you do not have the designs to them...
Hmm... Have you sold any of these ships ever? Who did you sell them to? Could these countries in turn have sold the plans to Ilham? The Dominion of Ubumedu would like to stay out of this conflict, but it is entirely possible that Ilham could have access to Spearhead class ships, which just seem like a knockoff of the ship that carries the Stryker in use by the RL US military. Again, the Dominion of Ubumedu is neutral in this disagreement, though it disapproves of the infringement on Doujin's copyrights.

-Robert Earl
Foriegn Minister
Doujin
14-03-2004, 16:45
5% during total mobilization, yes.. And I am JUST a Naval nation.. it is all I have is my navy, small air force, and very small army.. he has a FAIR economy, he wouldn't even able to pay for the upkeep of each of the vessels.. and oyu neglect to the fact that he's using airplanes which he according to Raysia's storefront doesn't even own..

Like I said, realistically, you can only have about 1 surface combatant per million..
Doujin
14-03-2004, 16:46
And I would like to know where you got the spearhead class ship, because I never sold any to you therefor you do not have the designs to them...
Hmm... Have you sold any of these ships ever? Who did you sell them to? Could these countries in turn have sold the plans to Ilham? The Dominion of Ubumedu would like to stay out of this conflict, but it is entirely possible that Ilham could have access to Spearhead class ships, which just seem like a knockoff of the ship that carries the Stryker in use by the RL US military. Again, the Dominion of Ubumedu is neutral in this disagreement, though it disapproves of the infringement on Doujin's copyrights.

-Robert Earl
Foriegn Minister

The Spearhead isn't part of the US military at all
Fluffywuffy
14-03-2004, 16:48
BTW, are my ships done yet?
Ubumedu
14-03-2004, 16:49
The ship pictured on the Doujinishi Corporation site is.
Doujin
14-03-2004, 16:50
Actually, it isn't owned by the US military. It's owned by Austal Shipyards, a company in Australia, and is a high speed transport vessel produced by them.. forget what the name of it was
Doujin
14-03-2004, 16:51
Not yet, fluffy, I could say they were done but then I'd be called for godmoddin.. youll have them soon enough shh :)
Ubumedu
14-03-2004, 16:52
Fine. It's used by the US military as a transport for the Stryker light armored vehicle.
Doujin
14-03-2004, 16:53
Actually, last time I checked it's leased and is used for tests on speed, high payload fraction, longer and more useful ranges and the ability to tailor the payload for optimum mission success.

It's called the Westpac express
Ubumedu
14-03-2004, 16:56
http://www.army.mil/features/strykerDemo/default.htm

Note the HSV-X1. The ship you pictured is the HSV-2, the sequel.
Doujin
14-03-2004, 17:06
What does that link have to do with anything? The Westpac Express carried several different vehicles, including the Stryker, M1A1, Bradley.. etc etc
Doujin
14-03-2004, 17:08
I have many #s.. going from HSV-2 to HSV-796, the wonders of adobe
15-03-2004, 18:30
Secret IC message to Ilham:
We suggest that your nation surrenders the ships back to Doujin, as this will prevent the GDi having to mobolize its great forces, we will be willing to host negociations for you and Doujin to sort out these issues, in a peaceful manner. If you do not want to give back the ships then that is up to you, but we must warn you that Doujin is likely to make attacks on your nation. We must insist throught that you DO NOT produce copyright ships, designed by Doujin, he has the right not to sell you the production rights, and althrough Doujins actions may be slightly unthought about, he still can deny you the copyright. If you do not stop producing, or planning to produce copyright protected ships then we will have little choice, but to force you to give the ships back. If you do not comply then we will destroy the ships, althrough Doujin will not be allowed to take over your nation.
Best wishes, and good luck,
President Ben Soul II.
Ex-chief Marshal of the Armed forces.
Secret IC message to Doujin:
We at WiH must ask that you withdraw your ships, as you have no right to blockade the nation of Ilham. we will be willing to hold peaceful mettings between your two nations, and we have been in contact with Ilham, asking that he does not copy your ships, warning that if he does those ships will be destroyed by ourselves. You cannot through try and ceise his nation, or the GDI will start hostilities on you, the ban that was to be put on buying your products has been taken off, but will be put back on if you carry out your threats. We suggest you leave this in our capable hands, and sort a peaceful solution.
Many Thanks,
President Ben Soul II and the people of WiH.
Ex-chief Marshal of the Armed forces.
Doujin
15-03-2004, 18:32
Secret IC message to Ilham:
We suggest that your nation surrenders the ships back to Doujin, as this will prevent the GDi having to mobolize its great forces, we will be willing to host negociations for you and Doujin to sort out these issues, in a peaceful manner. If you do not want to give back the ships then that is up to you, but we must warn you that Doujin is likely to make attacks on your nation. We must insist throught that you DO NOT produce copyright ships, designed by Doujin, he has the right not to sell you the production rights, and althrough Doujins actions may be slightly unthought about, he still can deny you the copyright. If you do not stop producing, or planning to produce copyright protected ships then we will have little choice, but to force you to give the ships back. If you do not comply then we will destroy the ships, althrough Doujin will not be allowed to take over your nation.
Best wishes, and good luck,
President Ben Soul II.
Ex-chief Marshal of the Armed forces.
Secret IC message to Doujin:
We at WiH must ask that you withdraw your ships, as you have no right to blockade the nation of Ilham. we will be willing to hold peaceful mettings between your two nations, and we have been in contact with Ilham, asking that he does not copy your ships, warning that if he does those ships will be destroyed by ourselves. You cannot through try and ceise his nation, or the GDI will start hostilities on you, the ban that was to be put on buying your products has been taken off, but will be put back on if you carry out your threats. We suggest you leave this in our capable hands, and sort a peaceful solution.
Many Thanks,
President Ben Soul II and the people of WiH.
Ex-chief Marshal of the Armed forces.

We have no interest in The Republic of Ilham. Any military action engaged would be to destroy the ships sold, and destroy any plans he has regarding construction and production of those ships. We are not an imperialist nation, we do not take over nations at a whim.
15-03-2004, 18:38
Thank you Doujin for making that point clear, we in WiH will support any action, as long as you pull out of the nation as soon as those objectives are completed, and that you do not make any retalitory attacks if you are attcked for defence, for this reason we would rather that we could ourselves do the operation, so as to make sure no problems arise.
OOC: Ill post more later.
Doujin
15-03-2004, 18:49
The blockade will remain in place, non-ilhamese vessels will be allowed to pass through at their leisure.. HOWEVER, we feel the blockade must stay in order to keep the vessels from moving out of Ilhamese waters.
15-03-2004, 19:06
The blockade will remain in place, non-ilhamese vessels will be allowed to pass through at their leisure.. HOWEVER, we feel the blockade must stay in order to keep the vessels from moving out of Ilhamese waters.
We agree to these terms, If you want to inspect one of Ilhams ships throught that are exeting his waters then we must have at least one squad of four troops to every 12 men of yours, we ask you that you promise that you will not attack his nation, even if he attacks you, we will be sending ships into his nation so he can receive Aid and send out any imports/exports that he wants to trade.
That is all.
Thankyou for not letting this go to war.
Doujin
15-03-2004, 19:19
War could destabalize my economy.. if a shipyard is hit thats billions down the drain, can't risk that.
Saudir
17-03-2004, 08:00
Ilham u r a freaking moron.I see your posts before and you are a freaking Asian.you FUCKING ASSHOLE.GET OUT OFF NATIONSTATES>YOU ARE A FILTHY INFERIOR ASIAN DESTINED TO BE GROUND UNDERFFOT BY THE SUPERIOR RACE OF WHITE and BLACK MAN.you are an asshole bitch and you are a filthy,stupid,greedy,money grubbing Asian who likes to make off with others money,stealing good AMerican jobs.I bet u are allies of Osama bin Laden.America is the greatest nation and we should kick all Asians out.Keep it for us Americans who are white and black.kick out all the Asian

Ilham,you are an asshole.I declare wat on you and send nukes at you.
Ilham
17-03-2004, 08:07
I am what?Just because I am Asian,you discriminate and curse me you bigot.Well,fuck off you damn noob.Who the HELL ARE YOU TO INSULT MY HERITAGE,MY RACE?

let me give you a warning my "friend".the moderators will probably ban you.so what,are you American or something?I am controlling my temper right now.its no use being angry at an immature,self-conceited,arrogant little 12 year old that you must be,and a person whom I don't know any less and cannot contact.Do not insult others because of their race.What have Asians done to deserve your hate?What have I done to attract your personal attention.You don't even know me!
Ilham
17-03-2004, 08:15
oh,and just in case you didn'y know,Asians refers to those from the Asian continent.Not just Chinese but Indians,Melanesians,Polynesians,Pakistanis,Malays,...etc.So you are insulting all people Asian.Well,all I can say is that you are pathetic.You are a worthless peice of fecal matter who does not deserve to live.

simply put so that your single brain cell can understand:
F..U..C..K YOU!

can understand that?I hope you can you trogdolyte.Why do you feel so much hate towards Asians?go on,have the balls to tell me out loud.or are you scared you little ****.

Nobody insults Asians like that,by saying that Asians are the way they are,you are insulting my family,my parents,my sisters,my friends and my relatives.We are human just as you.Why all the hate?
Saudir
17-03-2004, 08:20
Asians aren't human.you bitches are all just monkeys.Americans are the only true people who deserve to rule the world.You are fit only to be slaves.You are filth.It is enough that u r Asian that i diss you asshole.

u asians are all just f--u--c--k--ed up idiotic morons who like to steal money,spit on people and try to steal our black and white women.If u r in US of A,go back to ur own cuntry.

i don't need to give u reasons for my hating you asshole Asian.I'm sure Doujin and all these others you are doing shit with will support me as they are probably white and american.america is the greatest nation in the world and al u asians,chinks,indies,japs and whatever shit are trying to bring USA down.

Good ol' USA.
Scolopendra
17-03-2004, 08:21
That's quite enough of that. Ilham/Doujin, if nothing else, stop spamming and trolling. I really can't yell at anyone for flaming themselves...

--Scolo