NationStates Jolt Archive


Long Range MISSILE Sale

10-03-2004, 23:34
We are selling missiles now. These given to me by my cousin and he gave me permission to sell them.

Nuclear

ICBMs
SS-N-18 Satan. Range can carry it across the globe. It has 8 MIRVs at 500kT each for $35 million
Or
with 2 MIRVs with 25MT for $40 billion

Minuteman III, range to cover globe. 3 MIRVs at 10MT for $37 million

GRAVITY BOMBS
These are carried on planes such as B-2, B-1, and B-52. Only large strategic bombers can carry them.

W-80 warhead bomb
100MT (largest bomb in real life) $90 million. A few of these will turn most countries into parking lots

Nuclear Cruise Missiles

TLAM-N-D. Launched from attack subs, ships, and planes.
Comes with payloads of 500 kT. These missiles are ground skimmers and fly too low for radar to track them. They can only have a rang of 1200 miles, but are stealth.
price is $15 million

SLBM
Sub launched ballistic missiles
D-5 Trident II
Has 12 MIRVS at 100kT for $30 milliond
or 12 MIRVs at 500kT for $50 million

C-4 Trident I
8 MIRVs at 100kT for $25 million
8 MIRVs at 400 kT for $35 million

These are all coming with nuclear warheads.

All of these missiles can be armed with Bio-chemical warheads for no additional costs.

Incendiary warheads are available. Subtract $5 million from the missile costs for these. They can cover a whole city with fire.
10-03-2004, 23:43
My instinct tells me you are too young, but never mind. Observation - gravity bombs can be carried by other aircraft that are nuclear capable, doesn't have to be large strategic bombers.
Elvandair
10-03-2004, 23:48
My instinct tells me you are too young, but never mind. Observation - gravity bombs can be carried by other aircraft that are nuclear capable, doesn't have to be large strategic bombers.

Do you think talking in italics makes you appear wise?
Giovanni Inferno
11-03-2004, 00:00
I will take seventeen of everything.
Pleasure doing business with you!
11-03-2004, 00:00
Before talking to me China Army, get your facts straight. The W-80's are too large for most planes.
11-03-2004, 00:00
Before talking to me China Army, get your facts straight. The W-80's are too large for most planes.
11-03-2004, 00:00
Before talking to me China Army, get your facts straight. The W-80's are too large for most planes.
Kurlej
11-03-2004, 00:33
What is the name of your cousin?

And Giovanni Inferno taking 17 of everything is too much for your budget.
11-03-2004, 00:52
Could you please offer proof that your cousin gave you permission to sell these weapons?
12-03-2004, 03:22
Order confirmed
Missiles will arrive via ship at 0200 Friday
12-03-2004, 03:23
Order confirmed
Missiles will arrive via ship at 0200 Friday
12-03-2004, 03:38
50 SS-N-18 Satans
100 Minuteman IIIs

Total: $5.45 billion

The money will be wired upon confirmation.
Simpsons Springfield
12-03-2004, 04:01
OOH I want a personal missile for my own home.

plz send all deh stuFF to evergreen terrace PO Box Crappy Roleplaying 123.

Thankie.

-- Quimby
Angry Cambodians
12-03-2004, 04:10
I'd like 15 Minuteman IIIs with incendiary warheads and 10 SS-N-18 Satans with Biochemical warheads. The money will be wired upon confirmation of the order.
Anytime you have weapons or any military equipment, drop me a line, cuz I'll prolly buy something.
Thanks
12-03-2004, 05:25
To croniun and Angry Cambodians
I have confirmed your orders. The missiles will be delivered via freighter. They will arrive at 1500 hours Friday.
END
signed
Homer J. Simpson.
Tomathria
12-03-2004, 05:42
The Holy Empire of Tomathria would like to purchase the following:

1x SS-N-18 Satan 2 MIRV 25MT for $40M
2x TLAM-N-D for $15M each $30M

The total: $70M, will be wired once this order is confirmed and we know that your delivery ship(s) has/have been deployed.
Agrigento
12-03-2004, 05:42
ooc: way too young to be selling nukes.... but for the sake of RP...
ic:

We request the immediate cessation of this illogical nuclear proliferation. Given the fact that countries, as nations of themselves cannot, in anyway, carry out the actions or hold the bonds that connect human kind we are very curious as to find out the identity of your cousin. Whatever nation this maybe, they have acted with disregard for the saftey of the world and have failed in their responsiblity to maintain the balance of power.
Clan Smoke Jaguar
12-03-2004, 06:25
Could you please offer proof that your cousin gave you permission to sell these weapons?
I kind of doubt it's true, and even if it is, I'd still be inclined to ignore it, especially considering past conduct.
Plus, this info is way off.


W-80 Nuclear Warhead
Delivery System: AGM-86A ALCM
Diameter: 0.295m
Length: 0.785m
Weight: 131.5 kg
Warhead Yield: Variable 5 kilotons or 170-200 kilotons
Not exactly the largest yield ever, now is it?
The 100 megaton weapon is the Soviet Tsar Bomba, which was tested at a reduced yield of 58 megatons, with an expected full yield of 100 megatons. It weighed somewhere from 24,500 to 27,500 kg, which exceeds the capability of most heavy bombers. Only a B-1, B-52, Tu-95, or Tu-160 could carry it, and possibly a Tu-22M with modifications. No other RL aircraft has the payload capability (the B-2 can only carry 18,141 kg). All aircraft dropping the weapon would have to be specially modified for the role, mostly due to its size and weight (no aircraft is rated for carrying a single weapon of that weight, and at 2 m wide and 8m long, it won't fit into any RL aircraft's bomb bay).


SS-18 Warhead loads:
Mod 1: 1x18-20 megaton RV
Mod 2: 8x0.5-1.3 megaton MIRV
Mod 3: 1x24-25 megaton RV
Mod 4: 10x0.55 megaton MIRV
Mod 5: 10x0.55-0.75 megaton MIRV
Mod 6: 1x20 megaton RV
There has never been an ICBM with more than 1 multimegaton warhead. This one included.


Minuteman III Warhead Loads
3xW-78 (335-350 kilotons each)
3xW-62 (170 kilotons each)
or 1xW-87 (300 kilotons - upgradable to 475)


W-84 Warhead (Tomahawk, aka TLAM)
Diameter: 0.325m
Length: 0.85m
Weight: 176 kg
Yield: Variable, 0.2 - 150 kilotons


D-5 Trident II Warheads
8x300 or 475 kiloton W-88 max
5x300 or 475 kiloton W-88 standard
8-11x100 kiloton W-76 (from C-4 Trident I)


C-4 Trident I Warheads
8x100 kiloton W-76 (he'd be accurate here if the 400 kiloton upgrade wasn't there)


Circumference of Earth (RL): approx 40,075 km
Range of SS-18: 9250-16,000 km depending on load and variant
Range of Minuteman III: 11,000-13,000 km depending on load
Analysis: Still can't quite reach the entire globe, and NS world is a mite bit bigger.



Also, on designations:
Artillery shells and all missile warheads have a "W" designation. Only these systems get that designation.
Free-fall bombs are designated with EC, Mk. or B.


Finally, a note: multiple smaller weapons are more effective than a single big one. The big one sounds better, but the little ones will actually do far more damage.
12-03-2004, 14:17
tomathria's order is confirmed. Missile will arrive at 0400 Saturday
12-03-2004, 14:53
Heavy Artillary bought 3 gravity bombs and 1 ICBM.
Holy panooly
12-03-2004, 14:59
You are far too young for nukes.
12-03-2004, 23:05
To: heavy artillary
From Homer Simpson
Your order is confirmed. The missiles will arrive on the cargo ship USS Slick Willy at 1700 hours Saturday March 13, 2004.
13-03-2004, 02:55
10% off ayall missile on Friday and Saturday. If you don't see this, it will be wired back to you.
Sincerely
Homer J. Simpson

PS I don't care if I contribute to illegal nuclear poliferation. IN fact, if you have a problem, talk to my clients who may nuke you.
Chessalavakia
13-03-2004, 02:59
Your cheapest missle
13-03-2004, 03:03
To:Chessalavakia
From Homer J. Simpson
Your order is confirmed. Use your missile at will. Have fun
END
13-03-2004, 03:16
still selling. get that nuke to kill your neighbors.
13-03-2004, 03:43
Buy the missiles and rule the world. YOU have the power
Patoxia
13-03-2004, 04:44
James Randel flipped though the international TV channels, it had been a hard day and now it was time for some humour by watching what those crazy people overseas were doing. He flipped over to the International Shopping Channel first, that was always good for a laugh:
*a man in a red/white striped suit, white cowboy hat, and a cane appears next to a large ICBM in a what looks like a used car lot*

Yes sir-re-bob! And for only $40 billion you can have this beau-tee-ful SS-N-18 Satan missile! This missile was endorsed by the Infernal Lord of Hell (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=display_region/region=hell) himself and signed with his unholy name!

*The screen zooms in on the side of the missile*

See right here: N-e-u-t-... er... Sp.. yeah...

*Shots of explosions*
Get that nuke to kill your neighbours! Your friends! Even your Co-workers!

*Party scene followed by more explosions*
Be the life and death of any party!

*shot of kids playing around on a missile*
Even kids love the bomb!

*shot of a traffic jam then a massive explosion, followed by a shot of a clear road with a single car driving down it*

Say friends, ever have problems with your daily commute? Well with one of our WMDs mounted on your car, you'll never have problems with traffic jams again! Just fire and forget all your worries!

*close-up of the man's face*

Buy the missiles and rule the world. YOU have the power...

"Those wacky foreigners..." he thought to himself and then convulsed in laughter.
13-03-2004, 04:58
*runs commercial during Super Bowl*
14-03-2004, 04:09
bump'n'sell
14-03-2004, 05:53
Come on these are powerful stuff
Agrigento
14-03-2004, 19:56
Your attempts at intimidation are laughable. We would like to thank your country for providing us with such good entertainment. However the time for jokes is over, we must again request that you cease your sale of nuclear weapons. We do not need nuclear fission to completely annihilate your nation.
14-03-2004, 19:57
I am doing this because I have a right to support Free Trade.
Agrigento
14-03-2004, 20:07
I am doing this because I have a right to support Free Trade.

ooc: You really should be ignored, your not even a month old and selling nukes...You should have atleast 100 million population before you even begin to split an atom. Now, until you provide real, hard evidence of who provided you with these weapons instead of saying "my cousin"....I see no reason to carry this on.
14-03-2004, 20:13
OOC: No, italics indicate OOC. Sorry for the confusion...

Also, I wish in a rush and didn't notice the size of the weapon, I was thinking back to the B-61...never mind. You're still a bit young to sell nukes, but oh well.
14-03-2004, 22:26
I will not stop selling until a UN resolution is passed banning my nation from selling. At that point, I will nuke the UN and resume selling when finished.
HJS
The Conquer
15-03-2004, 02:29
I would like to buy:

50 TLAM-N-Ds

Money will be wired upon conformation.
Agrigento
15-03-2004, 03:35
This is our final request. You will cease the sale of nuclear weapons or we will be forced to stop it ourselves. You are seriously upsetting the balance of power and violating international policy (as well as proper RPing rules). Once again, this is your final warning, cease the sale of all intercontinental ballistic missiles, fissionable material, chemical and biological weapons immediately or we will intervene for the sake of international security (and proper RP).
Iron Blood
15-03-2004, 03:56
Agrigento, you intervene and Ill turn you into a nice glass hole. Have a nice day.

Oh, and tommorow there wil be a lovely storefornt of all Bisonic nuclear technology.
OOC:
Note this country was founded feb 2003, not feb 2004!
15-03-2004, 04:04
I am doing this because I have a right to support Free Trade.


There's a difference between 'Free Trade' and the nuclear armament of young nations, who will use these nuclear weapons to kill countless innocent civilians. You're a rogue nation, and I am standing beside Agrigento in requesting that you halt the sale of the nuclear weapons, or else steps will be taken to stop it ourselves.
Sicily1991
15-03-2004, 04:05
1,000 ICBM's with 2 MIRVs with 25MT=40 B.
Iron Blood
15-03-2004, 04:14
I am doing this because I have a right to support Free Trade.


There's a difference between 'Free Trade' and the nuclear armament of young nations, who will use these nuclear weapons to kill countless innocent civilians. You're a rogue nation, and I am standing beside Agrigento in requesting that you halt the sale of the nuclear weapons, or else steps will be taken to stop it ourselves.
If you nuke him, I will nuke you, if you dot nuke him, I will blow your invasion to hell.

Well that, or Ill watch him nuke you.
Iron Blood
15-03-2004, 04:21
I am doing this because I have a right to support Free Trade.


There's a difference between 'Free Trade' and the nuclear armament of young nations, who will use these nuclear weapons to kill countless innocent civilians. You're a rogue nation, and I am standing beside Agrigento in requesting that you halt the sale of the nuclear weapons, or else steps will be taken to stop it ourselves.
If you nuke him, I will nuke you, if you dot nuke him, I will blow your invasion to hell.

Well that, or Ill watch him nuke you.
Euroslavia
15-03-2004, 04:32
I am doing this because I have a right to support Free Trade.


There's a difference between 'Free Trade' and the nuclear armament of young nations, who will use these nuclear weapons to kill countless innocent civilians. You're a rogue nation, and I am standing beside Agrigento in requesting that you halt the sale of the nuclear weapons, or else steps will be taken to stop it ourselves.
If you nuke him, I will nuke you, if you dot nuke him, I will blow your invasion to hell.

Well that, or Ill watch him nuke you.

You threatening to nuke him isn't helping the situation. Seriously consider what this nation is doing. He is arming rogue nations with nuclear arms. How can you even think about defending him? And I don't think Ulan Baator planned on nuking him. That would be hypocritical of him anyways. I think he meant a blockade of some sort.
Iron Blood
15-03-2004, 04:36
OOC:
Well, if noone tosses nukes around, things will be fine. Why do I have a feeling that simpson will nuke anyone who attacks him?
15-03-2004, 05:10
Conquerer and Sicily, your orders are confirmed. We are flying the missiles now, they will arrive in a few hours.

Thanks Iron Blood, I am giving you 5 free SS-N-18 Satan missiles, the 2 MIRV type with 25Mt warheads

HJS
Iron Blood
15-03-2004, 21:48
I have enough ICBMs for two not to matter, keep em for yourself.

Iron Blood will protect simpson in the event of war (you invade him, Ill blow the invasion to pieces).

Several hundred JF-20 fighters have been sent to simpson to protect him from any imperialist swines.
15-03-2004, 23:30
thanks, I have no invasion plans
16-03-2004, 05:00
100's of missiles have been sold to date. And we won't stop. Even if the UN tells us to.
Euroslavia
16-03-2004, 05:23
Conquerer and Sicily, your orders are confirmed. We are flying the missiles now, they will arrive in a few hours.

Thanks Iron Blood, I am giving you 5 free SS-N-18 Satan missiles, the 2 MIRV type with 25Mt warheads

HJS

I highly doubt that Sicily could even afford all of those... and even if he could, I think you need to take a nations GDP into consideration if you're going to continue selling these...
16-03-2004, 05:32
I will sell and you can't stop me *sends threatening letter to diplomat*
17-03-2004, 01:53
Sicily has enough money. 40b is chimp change. I am selling more.
17-03-2004, 01:54
Sicily has enough money. 40b is chimp change. I am selling more.
Agrigento
17-03-2004, 04:20
ooc: Well, real life events must take precendent over NS, so I will have very little time to RP in the next week. Until then this is basically ignored, as it is entirely irrational and in my opinion an example of exactly how not to RP.
Euroslavia
17-03-2004, 04:26
ooc: Well, real life events must take precendent over NS, so I will have very little time to RP in the next week. Until then this is basically ignored, as it is entirely irrational and in my opinion an example of exactly how not to RP.

ditto...
17-03-2004, 14:21
bump for sales
Iron Blood
17-03-2004, 14:47
ooc: Well, real life events must take precendent over NS, so I will have very little time to RP in the next week. Until then this is basically ignored, as it is entirely irrational and in my opinion an example of exactly how not to RP.
ooc:
Take your time.
17-03-2004, 23:15
become a nuclear power. Nuke people
19-03-2004, 14:19
bump
19-03-2004, 22:51
Even new nations can now have nukes. No one will stop me, if my nukes destroy the world, too bad.
21-03-2004, 01:34
buy please
Papapotato
21-03-2004, 03:33
i would like to purchase 200 minutemen IIIs, 200 w-80s and 200 tlam-n-ds for a total of $28 billion.
21-03-2004, 03:46
Order is confirmed. Cargo ship SIS Jerusalem is sending the missiles and will arrive tomorrow
22-03-2004, 00:41
I will not stop selling until a UN resolution is passed banning my nation from selling. At that point, I will nuke the UN and resume selling when finished.
HJS

It won't even affect you if you pull out (or aren't even in the UN).

At that point, I would love to see you simultaneously attempt to reduce 33,000 nations, many much, much larger than yourself with nuclear stockpiles much, much larger than yourself, into nuclear wasteland...
The British motherland
22-03-2004, 00:53
the british motherland would like to but 10 long range nuclear icbm's at a price of 350 million please confirm and the money will be wired
Penguisiana
22-03-2004, 00:56
I'll take 100 of each, whats ur policy of using your own nukes againts you?
22-03-2004, 05:24
I will confirm the orders. Note to Penguisiana: the nukes are programmed so that they won't arm within 10 miles of my territory. Only I can disable that function. So, you can't nuke me with them.

As for the UN, I am saying I will bomb the HQ, or just give them the finger.
The Zoogie People
23-03-2004, 04:16
OOC: I'm curious as to how they are programmed...(if this is possible, I can use it on my own products, which would be useful)

IC:
Message to your government:

I assure you that we are cowering in fear and begging you to stop giving us the finger...we are frightened to death, the CHILDREN, for Christ's sake, the CHILDREN! What will the 5-mil UN nations think? Oh dear, please do sto---never mind.

We are also not aware that there is an UN HQ (there should be, but in roleplay...?), and assure you that if you do bomb it,(OOC now) the moderators will not take away the UN game mechanism.