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What is Logistics?

Logistics is defined as the process of planning, implementing and controlling the efficient and cost-effective flow and storage of raw materials, in-process inventory, finished goods and related information from the point of origin to the point of consumption, for the purpose of conforming to customer requirements. This discipline encompasses warehousing, transport & distribution, IT solutions and international supply chain management.

In war, logistics takes in the form of ammunition, transport, supplies, fuel and support. All of which makes maintaining modern military conflicts exceedingly difficult.

To remedy this growing problem (at least, for the sake of the country's allies), the United Communist States of Zvarinograd established the Allied Logistics Command, under the order by the Premier that the country must still keep it's part in the Red Block Army defence alliance while maintaining it's new pacifist policy.

Working in partnership with the military commands of different countries, the ALC takes time to understand individual demands for space, systems and human resources. It develops and implements tailored warehousing and storage solutions. The ALC's warehousing operations total 53 million sq. ft (5 million sq. metres) and range well over 1,000,000 sq ft (93,000 sq m) each. They include ambient, chilled, frozen and composite operations. Facilities are shared-user or dedicated; multi-shift, and fully automated, semi-automated or manual.

Information technology plays a key role in managing today's logistics and supply chain functions. It is an essential component in order processing, inventory management, forecasting and planning, warehouse management (WMS), transport management (TMS), track & trace, event management, and optimization and simulation programmes. The ALC selects and implements IT solutions - using off-the-shelf packages and developing bespoke applications - and provides support.

The Allied Logistics Command will also be open for buisiness, providing civilian, corporate and military logistics solutions. Customers and/or military representatives need but inquire for Dr. Tschaikovsky.

OOC: So are you saying you are going to solve the joke that is Russian Force's logistics?

Sounds like a nightmare... but meh, I guess allies are like "family".

Ah, I see that Zvarinograd hasn't gone anywhere. Good to see you :p

OOC: So are you saying you are going to solve the joke that is Russian Force's logistics?

Sounds like a nightmare... but meh, I guess allies are like "family".

OOC:
How'd you know?

Anyway, yes. I will solve his logistics, no matter how damned hard it can possibly be.

*whimper*

Ah, I see that Zvarinograd hasn't gone anywhere. Good to see you :p

OOC:
Ahh. Doujin, I remember you from the Seversky blockade incident. You were part of the short conspiracy roleplay I did against Federal Union. Also, I remember you had a storefront a while back.

Anyway. Damn it, I keep going astray from my topic!

tag

I still have :p

OOC: Nice idea, in taht most people still maange to ignore logistics completely but what exactly does the ALC do? An example perhaps?

OOC: How'd you know?

Anyway, yes. I will solve his logistics, no matter how damned hard it can possibly be.

*whimper*

OOC: Better you then me, we're talking about a guy who reasonably thinks he can use 40 million men in the same invasion again a nation he has to invade over water...

He thinks that 50'000 tanks can simutaniously attack one front.

Not even touching the fact that alot of incidents start from posts along the lines of "Come and have a go if you think your hard enough!"

But like I said... allies are like family, you tend to accept alot of stuff from them... though if you can convince him that having a frightening economy doesn't solve all logicistical issues I guess that would be a good thing...

Good luck, you'll need it.

OOC: Nice idea, in that most people still maange to ignore logistics completely but what exactly does the ALC do? An example perhaps?

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The ALC is a paramilitary organization that provides all aspects of logistics. Planning out supply chains from regional to international locations, managing it's large inventory of supplies and transporting them efficiently. However, it is one step ahead of a normal military logistics group in the sense that it produces it's own supplies using it's own factories.

For example, a country requires assistance in landing a beachhead invasion. The ALC responds by taking intelligence surveys of all available military assets put to the task, formulating a logistics solution and transporting those military assets to the actual battlefield working in conjuction with that country's military while supplying all that they require to fight. It's consultancy, strategy and manpower all in one package.

OOC:
Bump.

OOC: Nice idea, in that most people still maange to ignore logistics completely but what exactly does the ALC do? An example perhaps?

OOC:
The ALC is a paramilitary organization that provides all aspects of logistics. Planning out supply chains from regional to international locations, managing it's large inventory of supplies and transporting them efficiently. However, it is one step ahead of a normal military logistics group in the sense that it produces it's own supplies using it's own factories.

For example, a country requires assistance in landing a beachhead invasion. The ALC responds by taking intelligence surveys of all available military assets put to the task, formulating a logistics solution and transporting those military assets to the actual battlefield working in conjuction with that country's military while supplying all that they require to fight. It's consultancy, strategy and manpower all in one package.

sounds like a good idea, I don't really need it but many do.

OOC:
Bump.

great idea, dont mind if i make a similar system do you?

great idea, dont mind if i make a similar system do you?

A Nation with a economy to support 100 wars at once, a country that could get a professional army of 100 million, a country that is far superior to yours Iuthia. Remember that.

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Credonia: I don't mind, but I doubt you have enough manpower to maintain it. You have a military, which means that it needs logistics too. Your logistics officers is already tasked with your military, they can't do two things at once. You would then need a lot more men, which means drafting more and that would weaken your economy. Tough choice.

I don't have a military, which means I can devote manpower to the logistics of other militaries.

logistics are left with the civilians. You should learn how commies operate :).

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No, technically I'm not using citizens for the service. You see, I disbanded my military because I wanted a better diplomatic situation by assuming a pacifist policy towards non-communist/socialist nations. Now, the manpower that was used in the military is then converted to the logistics service. They're still draftees, comrade. Rather, you should learn how I operate. :D

A Nation with a economy to support 100 wars at once, a country that could get a professional army of 100 million, a country that is far superior to yours Iuthia. Remember that.

OOC: A country that would crash it's economy in five minutes if it had 100 million people in a profossional army due to the sheer of cost each man...

Not including the cost of the support staff and admin staff (who won't be working in a real job so they won't be contributing to the economy)

Then we add the cost of the ships you'd need to move your multi-million armies... the planes and carriers and holy crap, just the 100 million men alone may end up costing 100 trillion. Assuming you are training them moderately (America spends about $200,000 per troop, I assumed $100'000).


Your nation is bigger then Iuthia, it's got more money then I have but I doubt you could successfully invade me for the simple reason that logistics make invasion so hard in the real world... you know, that one you keep ignoring... that you couldn't realistically land enough troops for me to be overwhelmed.

Every invasion isn't like Normany... that was a one off, invasion has to start with smaller forces catching key targets like deep water ports so you can get your logistical support in... there is only so much you can support through beaches...

So while your nation is "superiour" to mine (like a fair few others) you'd need help to successfully invade me. So I don't care.

Go compare your dick to another nation Russian Forces... you're size doesn't impress me much.

A Nation with a economy to support 100 wars at once, a country that could get a professional army of 100 million, a country that is far superior to yours Iuthia. Remember that.

OOC: A country that would crash it's economy in five minutes if it had 100 million people in a profossional army due to the sheer of cost each man...

Not including the cost of the support staff and admin staff (who won't be working in a real job so they won't be contributing to the economy)

Then we add the cost of the ships you'd need to move your multi-million armies... the planes and carriers and holy crap, just the 100 million men alone may end up costing 100 trillion. Assuming you are training them moderately (America spends about $200,000 per troop, I assumed $100'000).


Your nation is bigger then Iuthia, it's got more money then I have but I doubt you could successfully invade me for the simple reason that logistics make invasion so hard in the real world... you know, that one you keep ignoring... that you couldn't realistically land enough troops for me to be overwhelmed.

Every invasion isn't like Normany... that was a one off, invasion has to start with smaller forces catching key targets like deep water ports so you can get your logistical support in... there is only so much you can support through beaches...

So while your nation is "superiour" to mine (like a fair few others) you'd need help to successfully invade me. So I don't care.

Go compare your dick to another nation Russian Forces... you're size doesn't impress me much.

OCC: No need to complain... At least its bigger :lol:

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Simply the war in Afghanistan alone cost the United States of America a $2.1 trillion wartime budget with $1.8 billion a month in Afghanistan, and that's already with the help of logistics professionals. You still have to account for inflation and other economic downfalls as well as the requests for an increase in the budget. Most NationStates players have no idea that they would have spent trillions on the shortest of wars or mobilizations. Ignorance is bliss, I assume. Well, back to buisiness, am I going to hear requests for my help in logistics or not?

I support them. My Logistics are more fairer anyway. Just before they never applied in any RP's i have seen except since late 2003.

OOC: Most NationStates players have no idea that they would have spent trillions on the shortest of wars or mobilizations.

OOC: Thats why Iuthia doesn't actually go to war very often, I've had maybe 2 wars in my entire history and both have never actually ended in combat... just deployment.

Each time I pointout that just the process of mobilisation is exspensive, so each time to use diplomacy to the point where war is inevitable (and diplomacy has failed).

War is exspensive and it's a shame that most people use armies of over a million at any one time.

Then again, I don't ask for uber-l337 stat wanking logistics, I just prefer that people take it into account (I'm not refering to RF anymore, just general ranting). Hell, I dare say I've got allies who try to move their 400'000 men over sea at the same time, often before they have captured a Deep Water Port to offload them.

When I'm in a invasion situation, my favourite tactic is to take out all logistical support. This is because Logistics is the key to an invasion, in most cases it takes weeks for new supplies to arrive because geographically it's pretty impossible to get a near-by staging ground.

Should the supply line be stopped, the soldiers on the ground will pretty soon run out of ammo, food and fuel for their tanks... they get through alot in a day and when they don't have ammo and food there is a good chance they will surrender... if not die.

Stop the supplies, stop the invasion.

OOC: Most NationStates players have no idea that they would have spent trillions on the shortest of wars or mobilizations.

OOC: Thats why Iuthia doesn't actually go to war very often, I've had maybe 2 wars in my entire history and both have never actually ended in combat... just deployment.

Each time I pointout that just the process of mobilisation is exspensive, so each time to use diplomacy to the point where war is inevitable (and diplomacy has failed).

War is exspensive and it's a shame that most people use armies of over a million at any one time.

Then again, I don't ask for uber-l337 stat wanking logistics, I just prefer that people take it into account (I'm not refering to RF anymore, just general ranting). Hell, I dare say I've got allies who try to move their 400'000 men over sea at the same time, often before they have captured a Deep Water Port to offload them.

When I'm in a invasion situation, my favourite tactic is to take out all logistical support. This is because Logistics is the key to an invasion, in most cases it takes weeks for new supplies to arrive because geographically it's pretty impossible to get a near-by staging ground.

Should the supply line be stopped, the soldiers on the ground will pretty soon run out of ammo, food and fuel for their tanks... they get through alot in a day and when they don't have ammo and food there is a good chance they will surrender... if not die.

Stop the supplies, stop the invasion.

Me too, we've only fought two major wars, as well as the Gabon invasion which was small scale, luckily one of the wars was along my border with a regional neighbour so it was logistically easy.

Problem is I tend to go over the top and worry about every little detail and I don't really know when to stop. I even worked out the composition of my divisions, working out the exact man power and organisation of each battalion to the nearest man including the logistics, engineer and medical ones. Thats for every division type Marine, armoured, infantry mechanised, airborne and thier reserve counterparts, talk about compulsive! :oops: