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OOC: Okay because me and Creddy want to finish this once and for all we both decided to make a seperate war thread.

RULES (we both agreed on)


No nuclear weapons of any kind. They are overpowered in this conflict and frankly, they ruin the art of war.
This one's important; NO MILITARY ASSISTANCE FROM ANYONE. This is between me and Credonia, not Stevid and Aust.
Think before you type! When you type something ask yourself this question: Am I tributing something really important to this thread? Does it has any relevance to this thread? If you can answer both with yes please say what you want. If no, then be quiet. I hate a war filled with OOC posts.


Time for war! To everyone else, enjoy reading.

this is good.

*prepares arsenal to nuke the winner and maybe even the loser*

Above me there's someone who obviously can't read for shit.

Above me there's someone who obviously can't read for shit.
sorry for the OOC comments but,LOL what about me? what am i?

keep the OOC posts to a minimum. a war with 10 pages can be reduced to 4 when you dont add OOC posts.

{Tag}

{And no... I'm not going to post anything without permission from one of you from this point... I think it's time I just shut up and leave you guys to duke it out...

Though I would suggest you guys at least try and be a little realistic about war...}

Yeah, this won't be a million soldiers racing towards each other. This will be kept strictly modern.

OOC: Enjoy. I'll leave you to it.

[tagged]

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OOC: for the record, Credonian forces ahve been mobilized for over a week

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=129673&highlight=

ooc thread. Credonia your forces are dooted around the globe as everyone has been saying. for your entire militray to be in your country will be godmodding (just being pre-emptive, i know you havent stated that yet)

Very well. All my forces and reserves have been mobalized. I'll post my whole army soon.

*tagged*

Hope its a good war guys :) Have fun.

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=129673&highlight=

ooc thread. Credonia your forces are dooted around the globe as everyone has been saying. for your entire militray to be in your country will be godmodding (just being pre-emptive, i know you havent stated that yet)

OOC: Yes i know, but i only have 2 army/marine divisions (out of many) and 2 carrier divisions (out of 8) not in credonia, the rest are still at home. The other forces are not part of any divisions since they are excess forces (the ones in somalia adn Aust)

My whole army

Infantry
5% of the total population can be called for duty. (Don't scream it's impossible, China has a reserve of 20 million.) At this time we have 1,4 million troops ready.
120,000 special ops
100,000 anti tank specialists
400,000 marnines
400,000 infantrymen
80,000 snipers
the remaining soldiers can be given various tasks.

Tanks, Siege and AT/AA guns
200 Leopard tanks
190 M1A1 tanks
180 SK-105 Kürassier II tanks
300 120mm AT guns
330 Flak-Halftrack AA guns
200 Howitzer Cannons
200 Field Artillery

Aerial
10 EB-52 Megafortresses (produced 2 ourselves)
12 B-52 Stratofortresses
22 B2 Bombers
100 F16's
120 Av8B Harrier Fighters
123 J10 Fighters
90 F17 Fighters
120 Seaking anti-submarine helicopters
20 EA-80C Transport airplane

Naval
4 Essex Carriers
13 BB-61 IOWA-class Battleships
11 DDG-993 KIDD-class Destroyers
12 Nimitz Class Battleships
18 Dardo Class Cruisers
23 Trident Class Submarines

The Republic of Ozymandias IV will watch the upcoming conflict with interest.

aka TAG

Bump for the sake of destruction.

well this war is certainley exciting so far isn't it? :roll: :P [/sarcasm]

Naval
4 Essex Carriers
13 BB-61 IOWA-class Battleships
11 DDG-993 KIDD-class Destroyers
12 Nimitz Class Battleships
18 Dardo Class Cruisers
23 Trident Class Submarines

Excessive amounts of battleships... There is no way you can have that many...

DUBBLE POST.

Ever heard of buying something? with a more than 1 trillion defence budget, it's very possible. By the way, have you read the little rules above? If Credonia doesn't like it, then we will work it out. Not with your help thank you.

Okay, be an idiot then... *walks away leaving behind a lot of undefusable nuclear bombs*

Enjoy :twisted:

-tag-

and Ginaz:
Tanks, Siege and AT/AA guns
200 Leopard tanks
190 M1A1 tanks
180 SK-105 Kürassier II tanks
300 120mm AT guns
330 Flak-Halftrack AA guns
200 Howitzer Cannons
200 Field Artillery

HP has mostly infantry(cheap) and almost NO tanks(expensive) Heck, I claim to have 50,000 vehicles...
Quite frankly, HP, you can have as many battleships as you want. :D

OOC: The Angry Gorrilla

IC.

As the President watched the war, he decided to send an email off to the Credonian Dictator:

"We admire your courage to battle this out one on one with the Holy Panooly. We will respect both of your wishes to have this closed, so our involvement will not be giving military aid as the rules state. However, we will say the following:

If Credonia is successfully invaded, we will open up a new conflict, and reign hell upon the HP homeland.

That will be all gentlemen."

My whole army

Infantry
5% of the total population can be called for duty. (Don't scream it's impossible, China has a reserve of 20 million.) At this time we have 1,4 million troops ready.
120,000 special ops
100,000 anti tank specialists
400,000 marnines
400,000 infantrymen
80,000 snipers
the remaining soldiers can be given various tasks.

Tanks, Siege and AT/AA guns
200 Leopard tanks
190 M1A1 tanks
180 SK-105 Kürassier II tanks
300 120mm AT guns
330 Flak-Halftrack AA guns
200 Howitzer Cannons
200 Field Artillery

Aerial
10 EB-52 Megafortresses (produced 2 ourselves)
12 B-52 Stratofortresses
22 B2 Bombers
100 F16's
120 Av8B Harrier Fighters
123 J10 Fighters
90 F17 Fighters
120 Seaking anti-submarine helicopters
20 EA-80C Transport airplane

Naval
4 Essex Carriers
13 BB-61 IOWA-class Battleships
11 DDG-993 KIDD-class Destroyers
12 Nimitz Class Battleships
18 Dardo Class Cruisers
23 Trident Class Submarines

Alright, well, here is what your going up against minus 2 infantry divisions consisting of about 95,000 men and 2 carrier divisions (one can be recalled at anytime, since its not really doing much fighting at all anywhere) which are all somewhere abroad fighting:

Army/Marines
2,000,000 Troops
550 M1A1 Abrams Battle Tanks
2,000 T-64 tanks
700 KS1 SAM's
1000 M103 Heavy Tanks
10 DF-5 Missile Launchers
500 M113 APC's
700 TDR-3000A1 Tanks
400 2S6M Tunguska
800 M-270 MLRS Rocket Artilliary
490 M1A2 Abrams Tanks
500 G6 155MM Self Propelled Howitzer's
600 M2 Bradley APC's
600 M-15 Light Tanks
200 HAWK ARSAM
200 Patriot Missile System
1000 T-95UM Heavy Tanks
1000 M-26 Main Battle Tank
1000 PzH 2000 (Panzerhaubitze 2000) 155mm Howitzers

Air Force
300 Alpha Fighter Aircraft
300 F-14 Ultra Tomcats
100 B-52 Stratofortress Strategic Bombers
10 Drago 3000's Fighter Aircradt
300 Mirage 2000-5 Fighter Aircraft
200 Su-37 Fighter Aircraft
120 KH-4 Raptor Attack Helicopters
25 F-117A NightHawk Stealth Fighter Aircraft
20 EA-220A Joint Tactical Bombers
60 B-2 Spirit Stealth Bombers
45 B-1B Lancer Strategic Bombers
220 AH-64 Apache Attack Helicopters
100 F-15E Strike Eagle Fighter Aircraft
250 EA-148 Fighter Aircraft
10 EA-28G Kight Attack/Special Forces
20 EA-24C Multipurpose Helicopter
30 EA-26 Combat Helicopters

Navy
4 Wasp Class Amphibious Assult Carriers
34 SSN: Los Angeles Class Attack Submarines
4 Crimmond Class Super Carriers
3 Freedom Class Aircraft Carriers
16 Mao Advanced Tactical Class Submarines
40 Oliver Hazard Perry Class Frigates
30 Arleigh Burke Class Guided Missile Destroyers
19 Rommel Class Battleships
38 Seydlitz Class Cruisers
25 Clauswitz Class Frigates
32 Manstein Class Destroyers
16 Vanguard Class SSBN Ballistic Missile Submarines
4 EM-150 Dolphin/Piotr Hotamel class Amphibious Assult Carriers
10 EM-220 Tigershark Class diesel electric submarine
1 Nimitz Class Assult Carrier
14 AOE-6 Combat Logistics Ship
7 Triomphant Class SSBN's
5 Land Sturm Class Naval Flagship
100 Foilbourne Frigate
20 Great Lakes Class Battleship
15 Shotgun Class Cruise Missile Submarine
10 U-LIDS (unmanned littoral interdiction & defense submarine)

Currently, i use less than .24% of my total population for my military, but if i were to draft the full 5%, i would have a total of 41.55 million ( :shock: jesus)

This is why I will never fight a huge war with countries like Credonia. Good Luck HP, for Credonia is a power player. Too much technical stuff for me.

TAG

Cousin Eddie is preparing to mourn for the inevitable loss of life that will follow from two such large countries warring.

This is interesting HP, i just checked out your factbook, and YOU HAVE NO COASTLINE...how can you maintain such a large navy (hell a navy at all) with no coast?

In my puppet nations I have tie up my navy. If I don't have one then I would leave large holes in my defense. Other nations advised me to build up a respectable navy.

commo people, use the ooc thread

In my puppet nations I have tie up my navy. If I don't have one then I would leave large holes in my defense. Other nations advised me to build up a respectable navy.

As far as I know, you can't use your puppets for any RP purpose that helps your main nation.

Face it-you can't have a navy.

In my puppet nations I have tie up my navy. If I don't have one then I would leave large holes in my defense. Other nations advised me to build up a respectable navy.

As far as I know, you can't use your puppets for any RP purpose that helps your main nation.

Face it-you can't have a navy.

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=129673

continue this their

tag

OOC: hope this doesn't turn into number wankfest, or my hit ratio is better than yours war.

It's my navy, so I have the right to put it where I want. It's not military help, only logistical.

i'd just like to say two things, long live westwood and Gla sucks

It's my navy, so I have the right to put it where I want. It's not military help, only logistical.

How in the world do you plan to have efficient logistics, if you cant utilize your navy properly by having your own port? That sems like too much work to do, to have to transport your troops from one nation into another just to put them on troop ships..not only thta, what if the nation tha actually HAS a coastline denies you the right to do so...then you have a problem. IF you really think you can defeat me let alone get ahold of my land with the tactics your using...you are badly mistaken.

ooc after this wars over, were willing to take on credonia 1 versus 1...then again i suppose fighting a nation that is actualy superior would seriously mess up credonia's whole point of being around. lol

also...can we supply our chosen dueller in this? becuase ive got some rather interesting weapons i'd like to share with them....can we supply?

ooc after this wars over, were willing to take on credonia 1 versus 1...then again i suppose fighting a nation that is actualy superior would seriously mess up credonia's whole point of being around. lol

also...can we supply our chosen dueller in this? becuase ive got some rather interesting weapons i'd like to share with them....can we supply?


no, the rules stand, NO OUTSIDE INTERFERENCE, and that means supplying military forces or weapons.....

ooc after this wars over, were willing to take on credonia 1 versus 1...then again i suppose fighting a nation that is actualy superior would seriously mess up credonia's whole point of being around. lol

also...can we supply our chosen dueller in this? becuase ive got some rather interesting weapons i'd like to share with them....can we supply?

Besides-any nation that defeats Credonia in war would then be destroyed by me. He has powerful allies-if this war wasn't 1-on-1, The enemies of Credonia would be anialated.

It's my navy, so I have the right to put it where I want. It's not military help, only logistical.

How in the world do you plan to have efficient logistics, if you cant utilize your navy properly by having your own port? That sems like too much work to do, to have to transport your troops from one nation into another just to put them on troop ships..not only thta, what if the nation tha actually HAS a coastline denies you the right to do so...then you have a problem. IF you really think you can defeat me let alone get ahold of my land with the tactics your using...you are badly mistaken.

They don't deny. Trust me.

we'll see (im gonna get on you hard about logistics since you have so many troops, which cant be transported easily at once)...you about ready to get this war goin, its been about 2 days already

You are right, but I'm in a small personal dilemma. I don't know what to do first, bomb your nation with rockets or prepare a full invasion and to secure a beachhead. I'm also preparing all my stuff though, it takes a while because it's quite a big army.

Hell you know what? I'll do both.

LOL remember, no ICBM's ;-)

Dude! This Rocks!
When the war finaly gets started, i'm going to make tons of money through broadcasting rights!!!

your news crews are banned from entering Credonia

You can't do that Credonia to my news crews.
In the rules of war (Switzerland), it states that any country not involved in a conflict is considered neutral.
Also is says, "Civilians from neutral countries have the freedom to enter and leave countries that are at war. Example:- The Iraq wars. :roll:

Im the emperor, its my empire, i make the rules of my territory, therefore i CAN do that. So it shall be written, so it shall be done.


Alexander Nicolas Sutton
Emperor of the Credonian Empire

Sorry stevid, but the real world rules don't apply here... Pity, but we'll send TV crews with our troops when we enter Cred soil.

Very well, Missle silos hidden in the dense jungle have been ordered to process the coordinates of various Cred targets. The loads are non nuclear and non chemical.

In the allied ports in Crepes and Atemananki special HP troops are getting ready to board the cargo plaines.

Wrong again lad!!
You make the rules for YOUR nation and YOUR people, not other nations people otherwise you are violation of the rules of war.

Sorry stevid, but the real world rules don't apply here...

War rules still apply though, otherwise it gets silly.

Well that's true...

Still, rules or no rules, looks fun!
I can't join in, but I sure hope you kick Credonia's sorry ass!!

ooh I will, don't you worry.

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Stevid, no chance for broadcasting right when Empire of Haukka is there.
(Our reporters are mobilized and advancing to Credonia)
[when you start?]
{tag}

i'm sorry, but i'm new to the forums (been on nationstates a while tho)
an i wos wondering
How the f*** do you figure out your armies, keep it fair (so one person can't say that they have millions of tanks when another guy only has 2!)
an then battle them???

The missiles are being prepared for launch. The president of HP was still thinking about the carnage that was about to come. He could have stopped this madness, but he continued. The missiles must be launched.
And so it happened. 40 missiles were launched from several mobile lauch units.

OOC: please post your map again.

Minor note: It appears that neither of the two combatants have listed logistical support units.

Axis Nova

Meanwhile, in a deep bunker in the heart of the Republic of Ozymandias IV, an alarm bell sounded as a printer started spewing out pages...

[code:1:b9a77c992e]###FLASH ALERT###

Missile launch detected in Holy panooly. Launch is confirmed. No firm data on trajectory of missiles, but Space Command confirms launch of forty (40) missiles from mobile launch units.[/code:1:b9a77c992e]

"Holy Mother!" the officer on duty shouted. "Get me every available tech on station to get a trajectory on those things..."

Life in the bunker just went from the calm professional buzz to a hive of activity.

===

The Ruling Council received the report at the same time, but did not react until trajectories were confirmed. Their computer read-outs showed a 30-minute window to react before the inbounds would reach the Republic's first level of ABM defenses.

I'm still launching missiles against Credonia and when most obstacles have been cleared I'll invade him and post the logistical stuff everyone needs to know.

DUBBLE POST!

OOC: Just a friendly reminder, I appreciate your entry to this RP, but don't send military aid or stop the missiles.

IC: While everyone in the Strategic Missile Command was waiting till the rockets hit the specified targets. An important issue was being discussed. Chemical and Biological weapons, yes or no? While some party members wanted to see Cred's blood flowing everywhere, a suprising 72% of the party agreed not the use them. No other agreements have been made on this important issue.

At the Presidential Palace in downtown Warhammer, President Weis was sitting in his office watching the daily news on WSN. Seconds later, an astonishing new break came on air about the launching of missiles and the looming war between Credonia and Holy Ponooly.

Moments later, the joint chiefs of staff entered the room and soon the whole government was talking about what to do in this situation.

The decision was made to remain neutral due to the ongoing war in Mongolia. We are going to stay out of this war. No military aid or assistance will be given to anyone.

Also, we would like to discuss a news contract with Holy Panooly for displaying the eveloping events on national news.

IC: While everyone in the Strategic Missile Command was waiting till the rockets hit the specified targets.

OOC: Friendly question... are these missiles ICBM's? I know it's a dumb question seeing as they probably are so you can cover that range, but I need to know for clarification perposes...

Of course we can work out a news contract, When we invade Credonia you can send 200(maximum) reporters, camera crew, sound people and equipment with us and we will guard your men. We need fuel, food, steel and aliminium instead of money.

Krulltor will dispatch three hospital ships to treat soldiers and civilians of both nations these will be accompanied by a small force of dd's as protection. They are under strict orders not to engage any forces or to intentionaly enter "hotzones". They are ordered to protect the patients abord by vacating the area should they attract any "undue" attention.

Ministry of Humanitarian Aid
Krulltor

We appreciate Krulltor's help. We are still waiting for Creddy's response...

Ambassador Jenkins was sitting happily in his office in the USIH Embassy in Credonia. It was a sunny day in this part of the country, flowers were blooming and the Ambassador was having a good life. Even the threat of war had not deterred him from enjoying this day. However that would soon change.
As the Ambassador sat, he had nothing planned this afternoon, in the garden he heard the muffled sound of an alarm. Within seconds 3 Marines with M16’s appeared around him.

“Sir, we have reports of missiles launched in HP. Highly likely that Credonia is their target! You need to contact the President”

“Jesus. Ok lets go.”

It was only a minutes walk to the ambassadors office and the STU-10 secure phone.

“This is Ambassador Jenkins I need to speak to the President NOW” said the Ambassador to the operator. Within 30 seconds he was on the phone with the President and Secretary of States Alder.

“Jeff, this is James speaking, whats going on? Ive got reports of missiles launched.”

“Mr President Sir, we have reports of missiles launched from HP. Their most likely target is Credonia. It would appear that the long awaited hostilities have started.”

“Yes. Tom what should we do?” the President asked Secretary Alder

“Sir we should pull the ambassador out. Leave the vice-consul and the Marines there to hold the fort. We can say that Jeff is returning for talks about the situation.”

The President thought for a second before responding.

“Ok, make it happen. Tell the DSS to keep him safe though.”

“Yes Sir” replied both parties as the President left for the White House shelter, just incase.

Secretary Alder returned to his office. He had heard enough of these alerts to know that the missiles weren’t coming here, besides he had work to do that couldn’t be done in a cramped bunker.

Meanwhile in Credonia Ambassador Jenkins packed his bags and prepared to leave for the airport once the missile had hit in a convoy of limousines.

OOC: HP, remember that Credonia's forces can be beaten by skillful tactics.

IC: "Premier, what is our official stance on the war?"
"We are officially neutral. Although we oppose Credonia's policies, we have no right to go and make war with them. Should Credonia actually be defeated, and several other nations attack the victor, we will register protests..."

Low bridge.
Everybody down.
Low bridge,
'cause we're coming to a town.
And you'll always know your neighbor,
you'll always know your pal
if you've ever navigated
on the Erie Canal.

(Translation: Just posting "TAG" is boring.)

That sounds great Holy Panooly. However, I will NOT be sending military or financial aid :D

:arrow: I hope to get the reporters in ASAP.

That sounds great Holy Panooly. However, I will NOT be sending military or financial aid :D

:arrow: I hope to get the reporters in ASAP.

OOC: Credonia: Dont forget the base I have in Holy Panooly. Make sure that your troops dont enter it. (Dont want a blue on blue engagement!)

OOC: What type of missiles did you launch?

Situation Room, Somewhere in an Underground Military Facility

Alarms sound noisily as missile launches from HP are detected. The Chiefs of staff as well as the Secretary of Defense remain calm. In the room sitting with them is Emperor Sutton who appears to be more annoyed than angry.

"Well, its started. Lets get to work gentlemen shall we" says Sutton with a calm voice.

"Sir, our MX Anti-ballistic Missile System as well as our naval forces will be able to intercept about 30 of the missiles, the other 10 may not be destroyed, but we will try. The system is already monitoring thier Trajectory, it seems a few are headed towards Credonia City, we should be able to knock them out without a problem. In the meantime, i suggest we respond hard and fast." Says General Mitchell Ferguson, Credonian Secretary of Defense.

"Very well Mr. Secretary. If they want to launch missiles, we can play that game too. Prepare our missile forces. Launch a total of 100 L6-120B missiles, missile package designation VG. accompanied by 150 TSW-10B missiles."

"YES SIR!!. Orders have been sent for a launch of a total of 100 L6-120B missiles with pagkage designation VG."

As the men wait and watch the screens as they watch the trajectory lines of the incoming missiles come closer and closer to the Credonian coast, General Ferguson issues the orders to launch the missiles.

"Sir, we are going to need your launch authorization code."

"very well"

The general pulls out a suitcase and opens it. Inside, there is an embedded electronic device to authorize the launch. Emperor places his hand on the finger scanner and waits while it scans his finger prints, then leans forward for a retinal scan.

"Thank you sir. Please state your order."

"I give the order to strike."

"The order to strike has been given, voice recognition positive, missiles will launch in 60 seconds....SIR, the ABM's are launching to intercept the incoming misiles. Approximate time to interception...about 80 seconds"

"Good."

Another screen on the wall turns on listing the following information:

[code:1:41dcc7edb6]Strategic Missile Launch Orders
Order: STRIKE
Target: Holy Panooly

Launch Package #1
100 L6-120B Freedom Missiles - Full Capability (5 MIRV's per missile)

Warhead
VX Nerve Gas - ALL warheads

Launch Package #2
150 TSW-10B Missiles

Warhead
Conventional, Non-nuclear, Non-Chemical, Non-Biological

Launch in 60 Seconds............

Launch in 50 Seconds............

Launch in 40 Seconds............

Launch in 30 Seconds............

Launch in 20 Seconds............

Launch in 10 Seconds............

Launch in 5 Seconds, Missiles Armed............

LAUNCH IN PROGRESS

MISSILES AWAY, ALL SYSTEMS GOOD[/code:1:41dcc7edb6]

"Missiles away sir..awaiting word on the incoming"

After a few seconds, reports begin coming in that incoming missiles are being successfully intercepted by the ABM system, however a total of 10 have gone through. Projected targets are Credonia City, Jefferson City and the Sutton Naval Base.

OOC: What type of missiles did you launch?
non chemical high explosive thermite charges. Don't know the the exact KT numbers.

IC: in response to the chemical attack gasmaks have been handed to the populance and are they are taking shelter in gas free bunkers. We have decided not to let this chemical provocation pass by.

50 Tabun missiles
50 Phosophoric acid missiles
25 5MIRV missiles

10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, 0! The missiles have been lauched at the Sutton Naval Base and other small towns.

The damage done by the Cred missiles isn't very high because most rockets have changed trajectories by anti missile snow and EMP charges. The damage done by the missiles was this:
13 homes destroyed
2 military storerooms in ruins

civil deaths and wounded is not exactly sure. It'll be around 500 or 600.

woah woah wait...hold on a sec..... how would you know what im launching until the warheads were to actually explode or detonate??? thats godmodding (and theres no real way of knowhing which kind of warhead would be used since the L6-120B is interchangeable between bio and chemical warheads, and we use an assortment of gases...dude, you really need to RP better...and y use EMP charges over your territory, that just causes more problems for you since youd need to detonate them high enough to actually disrupt the missiles guidance systems, and since so many missiles are coming at you, and u cant exactly catch em if the MIRV's are already separated from the booster, cuz once they are placed in their right trajectory, they just drop..you need to redo that last post, and make it more detailed..im ignoring it until u do (also, post losses).

BTW even if it did disrupt the missiles guidance systems, you have 150 warheads of conventional power to deal with, PLUS about 500 separate warheads from the 100 Freedom B ICBM's to worry about. Death would be WAY more than 500-600 even if they were off target

OOC: one other thing, shouldnt the true number of your troops be lower than they are since you are/were being invaded by the other nations?

OOC: Oddly enough Credonia is correct, though I'm surpised your generals didn't have a nervous breakdown waiting for HP's warheads to hit, thinking the worst... What if they are nuclear?

This is why I strongly suggest to most nations that firing ICBM's and other missiles like it is highly dangerous... if you throw a Conventional ICBM to another nation whats to stop them thining it's Nuclear? They may react as though it was nuclear and then you've got a full tactical ICBM responce which is nuclear.

Alas... looking at my post-modern technology given to me as a reward for dismantling all my Nuclear warheads I have a system that can detect and disable Nuclear ICBM's... so I can learn what it is once it's right above my nation. (Though I doubt I could detect if it was Chemical or Biological, eitherway the system can be used to stop an ICBM in general).

The point is that current technology (as far as I know) can't tell the diffence in warhead type, so most nations assume the worst.

However, the best way around this would be to diplomatically agree not to use WMD against one another so that you both know that when you fire ICBM's at one another they shouldn't have anything more then conventional explodsive...

Use this how you will, it's up to you two to work out who's right and wrong.

Cred post #1: you are right, I should have told the damage first and then responded.

Cred post #2: They left suddenly without saying we sign a peace treaty or we surrender. I still have no idea why they suddenly left. And I thought this was a "no nuke war" or are your warheads non-nuclear? If so then my death count will be much higher and thus I will respond with much more chemical stuff.

Empire of Haukka's reporters have arrived to Credonia.
http://lba.cptec.inpe.br/photos/Photos-2002/Visit%20to%20Fortaleza-may%202001/People%20taking%20taxi%20belem%20airport.jpg

In E-767 AWACS that is having training patrol in "classified area" near Credonia:

-Lieutenant Mäkinen!

-Yes sergeant.

-Look at this.

Lieutenant walks at sergeant and looks at radar type 34HMAI-M5. He blinks his eyes few times. Then he shouts.

-Major!

-Lieutenant?

-Look at this.

Major sees many little dots in radar. He says calmly.

-Missiles... hundreds of missiles... probably from Credonia, that doesn't concern us... a lot. Anyway, report to headquarters. And call for airrefuel.
And you private, bring me coffee.

OOC: Can yhou reduce that monster pic? It's brought about the evil scoll bar.

Cred post #1: you are right, I should have told the damage first and then responded.

Cred post #2: They left suddenly without saying we sign a peace treaty or we surrender. I still have no idea why they suddenly left. And I thought this was a "no nuke war" or are your warheads non-nuclear? If so then my death count will be much higher and thus I will respond with much more chemical stuff.

OOC: i never used nukes...read the post where i launched the missiles

My news teams have arrived at Holy Panooly.

OOC: i just gassed the country, you sure thats wise?

Depends which part of the country you gassed.

OOC: dude, 500 independent warheads, give or take a few....could basically span the entire country

Nope, teams have been confirmed, they're alright and are writing reports on the gass attack.

Must've been on a plane or something.

*prepare Commando units to move in and loot the loosing part*

*prepare Commando units to move in and loot the loosing part*

didnt you read the first post, no outside interference, this is between HP and Credonia only

Austica watches the conflict with interest and lends what diplomatic support it can behind Credonia. We shall not post here again in the interests of letting two old adversaries solve their disputes.

BRAVO ZULU

SIN

"This is Jason Stone of Stevid International News reporting from Holy Panooly live. At this current time we are watching the movement of Emergency Veicles trying to put out the structral fires caused by the tactical missile strikes made by Credonia. At the moment it seems like the shopping mall behind me is under control by the fire fighters. We can also assume that a counter attack will be soon, but our inteeligence can't confirm this. Causlties range from the 100 mark to the 500 mark and more reports of deaths and injuries keep coming in.

Jason Stone, SIN, Holy Panooly"

OOC: he has to repost losses since the attack would have killed far more than 500 lives, thats what im waiting for, otherwise i would have attacked by now

I say only 500 or 600 died because my country is a jungle equal to the size of Russia. Next, I fired 125 missiles to you and you should report your damage. Plus, you make the RP quite impossible since you refuse to post an accurate map. Post it or I'm gone. I'm sick and tired of "you don't know anything about my nation so you can't shoot anything" I have only 3 targets to shoot at, and they should lay in ruin just about now.

Give Credonia a break, do you expect him to draw an accurate map with every town villiage and city? Ever main road and carriageway and motorway?
That could take days to do.

me and huzen hagen have been asking him this for more than week.

Hmm... well played, but still, to do such a map could take a while.

The major cities and harbours are enough for a good RP.

Just letting you know, I'm not really on anyone's side. I don't really believe war is the answer. War is the last resort. Peace is a priority, same as civil rights(all my citizens have a lot of civil rights). So if some citizens from the war countries wanna flee, they can flee here. This is a great nation.

You have no idea how long hostilities have been going on between me and Cred.

You have no idea how long hostilities have been going on between me and Cred.

I've known Holy Panooly long enough to know the diplomatic relations between Credonia and HP are well.... crap. Hence the war. It would be pointless to get them talking at peace talks, the emmbassadors would rip eachother apart.

Stevid, you are a true ally. We wish to invite you to the opening of a new building for your embassy.

Dear boy, i'd consider it an houner to be present at the opening!

We will prepare a major celebration and dinner in one of the ancient temples in the jungle near Panooly City. Security will be high of course, but that's a price you have to pay.

Of couse, better safe than sorry.
What date then?

in 3 NS weeks.

OOC: I'll make a thread for new embassies and such

Okay then.

Krulltor New Syndicate News

Update:

Hospital ships are now off the coast of Credonia and their location has been broadcast to both sides. Transponder codes for med-e-vac Helicopters has been sent as well they are very hard to mistake for millitary craft as they have civillian nav lights, have only passive navigation radar and are unarmed save for crew issued small arms (.45 cal handguns).

"In a war of this scale there will be no victors, only survivors."

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3 ships 1,750 beds per ship, once treated and stabalized the names of patients will be released, and arrangements can be made for return of said personel.

Krulltor.

I've known Holy Panooly long enough to know the diplomatic relations between Credonia and HP are well.... crap. Hence the war. It would be pointless to get them talking at peace talks, the emmbassadors would rip eachother apart.


You dont know that it would be pointless, you never asked. We have granted talks with nations against us that ae similar to HP and have worked out some great treaties which still stand to this day, so dont try to say something about something that has never even been tried. No one took the diplomatic approach (HP should have, to avoid the bloodshed) maybe something COULD have been set up, besides we had already announced like 2 weeks ago our intention to step back from international affairs

OOC: actually i was planning on goin on vac from NS but since ya'll went and started this mess...i cant until it ends

I'm afaid you've dug yourself a hole lad. You said.. " No one took the diplomatic approach (HP should have, to avoid the bloodshed)", well i remember i while ago you were talking to someone and you said that Credonia ALWAYS tries to make a peaceful aproach. Its not HP job to make all the peace talks, it's your job as well.

Don't tell me that i don't know about the peace talks, cause since there aren't any you wouldn't know either.

People these days!!!

He always contradicts himself. I think it's part of his personality

Well put!

Thanks!

OOC: Nothing happened in 2 days. I think this war is turning cold.

OOC: actually i was planning on goin on vac from NS but since ya'll went and started this mess...i cant until it ends

Why don't I belive you for a second???

Becuase he's always telling fairy tales to everyone

[ooc] It looks a lot more like personal angst than RP here, HP... If you don't like playing with the guy, why persist?

OOC: It's odd really, I make a point of hardly posting in a thread to allow both sides to get some fresh air away from me and yet the thread still takes six pages to finish using missiles on one another.

I thought you guys had a OOC thread to use for whining about things like what you agreed on.

I don't support them, I'm just giving Cred a friendly piece of advise

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Side, Top

SMB-01 Electra Class Space Battle Monitor
Colonial Battle Monitor Ship

Length:
-422 feet
Width:
-184 feet w/out wing calculated
-218 feet with wing calculated
Height:
-284 feet

Power-Plant:
x2 Hydrogen Plasmatic Reactors - 24,000 RkW each - 48,000 RkW overall
x5 Coolent Turbine Cells
x4 Hydrogen Fuel-Cell Processors
x4 Reactor Thrusters
Generators:
x4 Electro-Magnetic Generators 100,000 kW each - 400,000 kW overall
x3 Electro-Magnetic Gravaton Generators
Life-Support Systems:
x8 Oxygen Generation/Reprocessing Systems
x4 Electro-Magnetic Waste Termination Systems
x2 Water Processing/Reprocessing Systems
Sub-Space Drive:
x2 Type-I Sub-Space Drives
x4 Sub-Space Coolent Systems

Armor:
Ionic Reinforced Titanium

Weapons:
x2 "Torpedo Wings" Space Torpedo Launcher Wings
x6 Type-IV Space Torpedo Launchers - 3 on each Wing
x8 214-mm Double-Barrel Hyper-Rail Cannon Turrets
x2 180-mm Double-Barrel Electro Laser Cannons
x10 145-mm Advanced Rail Gun
x2 70-mm Hyper Chain Cannons
Craft:
x2 Modified Buran Space Shuttle
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x24 XSF-02 Star Sabre - Four Chain-Guns - Two Missile Hard-Points

Crew:
-Officers: 14
-Crewmen: 140
-Colonial Marines: 74
-Overall: 228

In-Service:
--Seven(7) Currently in Active Service--
CFBM Monitor Lizard Komodo
CFBM King Viper
CFBM King Cobra
CFBM King Python
CFBM Vipress
CFBM Cobress

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CFBM King Python is currently stationed In-Orbit and is monitering the battle of Credonia, a Comrade Brethren Ally, and Holy Panooly, a Comrade Brethren, I believe Ally perhaps, and shall intervene if it gets any worse.

Thank You,
Kata'Re
Leader of the Colony of Nodea Rudav
Nova Kretani Solar System

OOC: actually i was planning on goin on vac from NS but since ya'll went and started this mess...i cant until it ends

Why don't I belive you for a second???

OOC: have a little chat with some of my allies, i told them that i was gonna take a break from NS for a while, ive been havin a rough time in RL, had a fuckin mental breakdown in school the other day..dunno y i told ya'll that but w/e that was the past) i need time to myself. So really it doesnt matter if u believe me or not

CFBM King Python is currently stationed In-Orbit and is monitering the battle of Credonia, a Comrade Brethren Ally, and Holy Panooly, a Comrade Brethren, I believe Ally perhaps, and shall intervene if it gets any worse.

Thank You,
Kata'Re
Leader of the Colony of Nodea Rudav
Nova Kretani Solar System

Open your eyes and read the first few paragraphs the topic.
Now that I am awhere of this ship in orbit, I will consult my space programers to investgate that vessel. In other words I consider it a threat.
I have little defence against orbital bombardment.

Comrade Brethren Stevid,

You may do as you see fit, for we have no interest in your Nation, as we have heard nothing negative, so far, about your Governmental Policies and Institution. If you so wish, a Modified Buran Space Shuttle will gladly be used to transport a team of inspectors to alow you to inspect our Ship, for Motherworld Earth was once our Homeworld, yet a Rouge meteor changed all that along with the help of an Alien Hand.

Let it be known that if you so feel threatened, Comrade Brethren Stevid, the Weapons Systems onboard the CFBM King Python will be shut down until times decided against it. Therefore, at ANY time, peace or battle, you are welcome to inspect our Ships to feel safe, as is any Comrade Brethren Nation, so long as a warning is given and/or they ask.

Thank You,
Kata'Re
Leader of the Colony of Nodea Rudav
Nova Kretani Solar System

HP: I think you should give Credonia a break for now, because he's got some RL problems, and he needs a break for his health, so lets continue this RP some other time hey? :wink:

I already did. Thanks for the notice anyway :wink: