NationStates Jolt Archive

(OOC: Little note, I was, err, lets say, out of commission, for a bit. I'm back now, and I have changed my mind about how I am going to go about things.)

Doujin Space Corporation, after failing several times to make technologies to leave the Solar System work, declared bankruptcy, and Doujinshi Corporation purchased it's old subsidiary again. With the sale of Doujin Space Corporation, Doujinshi Corporation inherited it's multi-trillion dollar debt, and it's 2 Space Stations. The company will be renamed back to Doujin Aeronautics, and will resume aircraft production within the next 2 years.

Doujin has a surplus of 17 trillion dollars. (Note: this is a random number, but considering that I had a surplus accumulating itself over many "years" I think it is fair, and probably a low number considering the ammount of cash Doujin itself had when I was forced to leave for a bit. Any objections are welcome.)

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This so-called surplus is highly unlikely... Considering the fact that in real life, reckless American spending only caused a deficit of around 10 trillion... A budget surplus of 27 trillion is unlikely... If it was just a surplus it would be more likely, but still highly unprobable...

Shortly before I left I was "given" 30 trillion dollars, more or less by a nation that is over a year old and had a frightening economy.

Still highly unlikely, that nation would have been bankrupted by such a donation and undoubtedly the nation did not have the funds to send, so therefore, there is an extremely high probability (let's say 99.9999999999999999999999999999999999999%) that you don't have the funds you claim you do...

Wether or not that nation went bankrupt, is none of my business. As far as Doujin is concerned, and the rest of NS (as this was already debated) the donation to me is one of value and it works. Although, let me point out that it wasn't a 30 trillion lump sum, it was over a period of 10 NS years. And your right, I shouldn't have worded it as "Budget Surplus", that would insinuate I had a 27 trillion dollar surplus from this years budget.

OOC: I'll be blunt because I like you.

Firstly, welcome back, your presence has been missed, I thought of you as one of the better December nations I know.

Secondly... you can't join puppets together or use them to support one another. This is generally accepted by all reasonable roleplayers because anyone can start nation states and create infinate nations... if they started to support one another there would be no end of nations joining millions of puppets together for that extra population.

Iuthia has a puppet called "Free Iuthia"... this puppet is a completely soveign nations which orginates from Iuthia as the part of Iuthia that wanted democracy... seeing as they are almost as old as Iuthia this puppet is about 1.5 Billion in size.

Iuthia is currently 2.1 Billion in size.

Now lets say I decided to take the two nations and make them whole again.

Well, it would give Iuthia a much better economy (Free Iuthia is pro-business) as well as increasing my populatation to a stupid 3.6 Billion...

It's completely unfair... so I'm not allowed to do it.

Iuthia and Free Iuthia are both completely seperate nations.


If Iuthia was to create a "colony" that colony could not help me in war... it's against the rules... it doesn't matter why a puppet exists, it's just given that they are not allowed to assist the main nation.

This is why your nation is going to stay the same, from my point of veiw... I won't ignore you, I just won't acknowledge your extra size.

Didn't think about that, Iuthia. Hmm.. and actually Xendi isn't mine, is a friends.. little devious on my part -.- But you are right, Iuthia :p Withdrew all that.

OOC: I also have another puppet which would boost me into the 4.5 billion regions... but I couldn't explain it IC...

Same here, if I added all my puppets to my main nation, the Five Civilized Nations, I'll have a population of around 5 billion...

Yes well, there are nations who do that though :p (draw from puppet nations for military support)

I don't do that, although I regard them as one sovereign nation, they're still my separate puppets or colonies...

OOC: Was that the money I gave you for your ETC project or someone else's? If it's mine, I keep hardcopy records of my nation's defense budget and the money was taken defense surplus I keep (which is quite sizable, I've been keeping it since before the RGGA dissolved.)

No, you didn't give me even close to a trillion dollars :p Jingle Jangle Ridge is the one who gave me 30 trillion -.-

Yes well, there are nations who do that though :p (draw from puppet nations for military support)

OOC: Well they are godmoding then... I think all the FAQ's made it clear you can't use puppet nations to support your own nation.

Welcome Back Doujin! I had missed your wonderful Storefront, Look forward to seeing your revamped systems and your progressing space program.