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Diplomatic Talks ATTN: Credonia alt. Catania-Marinov

Swedish Dominions
08-03-2004, 16:43
Settle down, we must act like grown ups. This diplomatic crisis must be solved.

The talks will begin now.

Credonia will start.
08-03-2004, 16:48
What diplomatic crisis is this?
Credonia
08-03-2004, 16:49
I, along with the Credonian people are VERY disturbed at the fact that a sovreign nation would try ton contract an ally of ours to try to nit us with a nuke. Our government was alerted of the plan from the start by the CM government, and we discussed it for quite some time. In a way, that is an act of war upon us as your intention was clearly to try to kill thousands, maybe even milions of innocent Credonian lives for whatever purpose you had. This will not stand. As a unified nation, Credonians will respond in such a way that is appropriate, even if it means war with you. We cannot take this event lightly, nor will we. We demand answers and we DEMAND an explanation.
08-03-2004, 16:54
Hehehe...I disarmed the warhead...So if it would of hit it woulda clunked and people would of wondered what idiots...Credonia heres half the money! *wires half of the money*
Swedish Dominions
08-03-2004, 18:44
Listen carefully.

Our nation was/are devided into six states which togheter forms the dominion.
When this "incident" accured, the nation was in a crisis. The Communists was losing their power. Several rebelforces are operation inside the SD. They are heavily armed, some of them are military regements gone bad. So they could take over a missile solo.

They sold a Minuteman to the Rebels in CM, some of the rebels are DTIS Phantoms.
Holy panooly
08-03-2004, 19:06
Catania-Marinov I don't back you up because you left my troops at the great fish river in my nation. I still wonder why you suddenly left. The "evidence" of my so called acts of terrorism all the bigger nations nations showed was too poor to be called "evidence" at all. You are on your own.

OOC: the invasion in my region stopped. Don't know why, probably because it was a damn stalemate.
Credonia
08-03-2004, 19:10
Listen carefully.

Our nation was/are devided into six states which togheter forms the dominion.
When this "incident" accured, the nation was in a crisis. The Communists was losing their power. Several rebelforces are operation inside the SD. They are heavily armed, some of them are military regements gone bad. So they could take over a missile solo.

They sold a Minuteman to the Rebels in CM, some of the rebels are DTIS Phantoms.

OOC: HP- get out of the damn thread

IC:

I see, and i thought you said DTIS was no more. I thought your government went on a "manhunt" to take them out. What happened to that promise, or was it as empty as promises politicians make, just for to attain peace for themselves?
Swedish Dominions
08-03-2004, 19:13
I did, but did the US wipe out the whole Al Qaida just because they "liberated" Afghanistan? NO!

There are still Sleeper cells and loyal fellowships left.
Credonia
08-03-2004, 19:18
OK, then my second question is, how the hell did they get ahold of nuclear weapons, let alone ICBM's? And i question you both (SD and CM)
Swedish Dominions
08-03-2004, 19:21
Listen carefully.

Our nation was/are devided into six states which togheter forms the dominion.
When this "incident" accured, the nation was in a crisis. The Communists was losing their power. Several rebelforces are operation inside the SD. They are heavily armed, some of them are military regements gone bad. So they could take over a missile solo.

They sold a Minuteman to the Rebels in CM, some of the rebels are DTIS Phantoms.


They can bribe missile silo crews, they are very dangerous. and like i said before, our nation is in a big crisis.
Credonia
08-03-2004, 19:24
Who in your nation has the power to authorize an ICBM launch?
Swedish Dominions
08-03-2004, 19:27
anybody at that time. We had no people in charge
Swedish Dominions
08-03-2004, 19:28
But it wasn't we that fired it!
08-03-2004, 19:28
Well.The ICBM's that where given to us are locked away.We launched 'Dummy' ICBM's..We did this to show our former ally that we do not put up with this.Weve taken there money..A crude way but effective..The real ICBM's are ready to be shiped to you..As you know we had informed you from the start.
Credonia
08-03-2004, 19:31
alright, so did SD specify that he wanted you to hit CREDONIA or just anyone at random?
Swedish Dominions
08-03-2004, 19:31
A dummy chould be dangeroud too! What if they hit someone? There must be fuel in it! And Fuel Explode!
08-03-2004, 19:34
It was infact specified to hit you.Credonia...We notified you immeditatly and made the plan..It was to look real enough to trick him.So we launched a "Dummy" ICBM..The most damage it could have down was smashed a car? But it could not have made it past your radar of course.
Credonia
08-03-2004, 19:34
anybody at that time. We had no people in charge

It doent matter if you fired or not. There is still a looming problem, and the fact that you had some hand in this incident that COULD have ended in millions of Credonian lives being slaughtered because of rebels is HIGHLY unacceptable. What is your nation doing to try to get control of your missiles? What safeguards are on your WMD arsenal if any at all? If you have such weapons, WHY IS NO ONE IN CHARGE? What in the world is going on?
Swedish Dominions
08-03-2004, 19:35
A Car?!?! It's equal to a jetplane crashing into a World Trade Center! Did that smack a car?
08-03-2004, 19:36
A dummy chould be dangeroud too! What if they hit someone? There must be fuel in it! And Fuel Explode!

The chances are low..Credonia was expecting it of course...And of course and EMP has fuel but does it explode? nope..
Credonia
08-03-2004, 19:38
A dummy chould be dangeroud too! What if they hit someone? There must be fuel in it! And Fuel Explode!


ANYONE with a right mind knows that a warhead does not have fuel in it. It is a free flying object once it gets boosted into the proper trajectory. This further indicates to Credonia and the rest of the world that your nation is not responsible enough, and not CAPABLE enough to hold such weapons. How do you come into posession of such weapons without knowing how they work?
Swedish Dominions
08-03-2004, 19:39
anybody at that time. We had no people in charge

It doent matter if you fired or not. There is still a looming problem, and the fact that you had some hand in this incident that COULD have ended in millions of Credonian lives being slaughtered because of rebels is HIGHLY unacceptable. What is your nation doing to try to get control of your missiles? What safeguards are on your WMD arsenal if any at all? If you have such weapons, WHY IS NO ONE IN CHARGE? What in the world is going on?


First of all Isn't it obvious? If my government is collapsing, then the security will decrease. Then will Terrorists strike. It's a golden opperitunity for them to do some damage.
Second of all, The military was desserters, they joined the rebels. And the Silos are a part of the military.
08-03-2004, 19:39
A Car?!?! It's equal to a jetplane crashing into a World Trade Center! Did that smack a car?

BUT they knew it would come in! WHO IS IN THE WRONG! you...You payed me a LARGE sum of money and we informed Credonia and made a plan together...Whos in the wrong? YOU...This was all planed by me and Credonia,He gets half the cash i get the other...
Swedish Dominions
08-03-2004, 19:40
A dummy chould be dangeroud too! What if they hit someone? There must be fuel in it! And Fuel Explode!


ANYONE with a right mind knows that a warhead does not have fuel in it. It is a free flying object once it gets boosted into the proper trajectory. This further indicates to Credonia and the rest of the world that your nation is not responsible enough, and not CAPABLE enough to hold such weapons. How do you come into posession of such weapons without knowing how they work?

ooc: i'm sorry i don't know everything about everything on Earth!
Swedish Dominions
08-03-2004, 19:41
A Car?!?! It's equal to a jetplane crashing into a World Trade Center! Did that smack a car?

BUT they knew it would come in! WHO IS IN THE WRONG! you...You payed me a LARGE sum of money and we informed Credonia and made a plan together...Whos in the wrong? YOU...This was all planed by me and Credonia,He gets half the cash i get the other...

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08-03-2004, 19:41
anybody at that time. We had no people in charge

It doent matter if you fired or not. There is still a looming problem, and the fact that you had some hand in this incident that COULD have ended in millions of Credonian lives being slaughtered because of rebels is HIGHLY unacceptable. What is your nation doing to try to get control of your missiles? What safeguards are on your WMD arsenal if any at all? If you have such weapons, WHY IS NO ONE IN CHARGE? What in the world is going on?


First of all Isn't it obvious? If my government is collapsing, then the security will decrease. Then will Terrorists strike. It's a golden opperitunity for them to do some damage.

Isnt there a way to detect a launch? and posiblly over take it? There where no rogues...This was all a plan! OR IS YOUR GOVERMENT MAD THAT THEY MUST STRIKE OTHERS?! we do not accept this so we informed Credonia and made a strategic plan.
Second of all, The military was desserters, they joined the rebels. And the Silos are a part of the military.
Credonia
08-03-2004, 19:42
First of all Isn't it obvious? If my government is collapsing, then the security will decrease. Then will Terrorists strike. It's a golden opperitunity for them to do some damage.
Second of all, The military was desserters, they joined the rebels. And the Silos are a part of the military.

It doesnt matter, only one man, or two men with joint permission should have the right to authorize the launch of such weapons. It doesnt matter iof the government is collapsing. If you had a good security system, the NO ONE would be able to authorize launches without 1 or 2 people who have the authority to do so through which ever kind of means you come up with.
08-03-2004, 19:44
First of all Isn't it obvious? If my government is collapsing, then the security will decrease. Then will Terrorists strike. It's a golden opperitunity for them to do some damage.
Second of all, The military was desserters, they joined the rebels. And the Silos are a part of the military.

It doesnt matter, only one man, or two men with joint permission should have the right to authorize the launch of such weapons. It doesnt matter iof the government is collapsing. If you had a good security system, the NO ONE would be able to authorize launches without 1 or 2 people who have the authority to do so through which ever kind of means you come up with.

I agree with Credonia..Maybe we should send inspectors in? To see if you pose a threat to any other nations?
Swedish Dominions
08-03-2004, 19:45
oooh my god!

ok ok i'll surrender for the mighty CM!!!!

I'm older than him!

You were the fool that accepted the offer!

You asked me. Shall we go to war with someone?
08-03-2004, 19:50
oooh my god!

ok ok i'll surrender for the mighty CM!!!!

I'm older than him!

You were the fool that accepted the offer!

You asked me. Shall we go to war with someone?

What you are saying is because you are larger means that i cannot help the world of potentially dangerous nations like yourself? if a terrorist faction takes over 1 silo..Which you say yourself is easy because of the goverment..I SAY WE PUT MILITARY FORCES AND INSPECTORS TO TIGHTEN THEM UP SO THIS NEVER HAPPENS AGAIN!
Walkenstone
08-03-2004, 19:51
Shakhtar Kapur - Uni-State Ambassador for Interelated Affairs

I'm afraid this is a laughable state of affairs, the day governent sends 10 year old in to debate the safety or our respective country, will be the day they sell WMD's in Toys 'R us, please, theres diplomacy and then there stupidity, you my feuding friends seem to be filled with the latter.
08-03-2004, 19:57
Shakhtar Kapur - Uni-State Ambassador for Interelated Affairs

I'm afraid this is a laughable state of affairs, the day governent sends 10 year old in to debate the safety or our respective country, will be the day they sell WMD's in Toys 'R us, please, theres diplomacy and then there stupidity, you my feuding friends seem to be filled with the latter.

Please stick your nose out of this personal matter.It does not need your attention.Sorry
08-03-2004, 19:57
Shakhtar Kapur - Uni-State Ambassador for Interelated Affairs

I'm afraid this is a laughable state of affairs, the day governent sends 10 year old in to debate the safety or our respective country, will be the day they sell WMD's in Toys 'R us, please, theres diplomacy and then there stupidity, you my feuding friends seem to be filled with the latter.

Please stick your nose out of this personal matter.It does not need your attention.Sorry
Credonia
08-03-2004, 20:22
Military personnel need to be sent into your nation to secure your national arsenal of nuclear weapons. If they are not, then you run the risk of setting off an unwanted war with a power that would not be as forgiving as Credonia is being right now.
09-03-2004, 11:43
Military personnel need to be sent into your nation to secure your national arsenal of nuclear weapons. If they are not, then you run the risk of setting off an unwanted war with a power that would not be as forgiving as Credonia is being right now.

We agree to this,And inspectors to see if you have any other WMD's in unprotected zones..