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As a result of what political pundits in neighbouring countries have called "The Red Tide War of Der Liom", we are now announcing the setting up of The Vikings Regional War Congress and Trade Pact. So that all countries in the Confederated Viking Nations Region can defend themselves more effectively and become more self-sufficient economically, rather than relying on foreign, inter-regional trade.

Frank Miller
Secretary of Foreign Affairs

Finally our region has taken action.When der liom was invaded very little was done-the same could happen to any of us ,Our country is fully committed to this pact(militarily,economically etc) and we expect that the other members will follow Kristorg-its fo the good of us all

The Pan-Snug alliance (Snuggle-topia, Snugland, Snugdovia) shall sign this momentous agreement. No longer shall our people need to worry about foreign aggression. The Vikings shall stand united.

From the pen of John Anderson
- General Adjutant to the Snuggle-Topian Emperor

As foreigners still occupy a third of this glorious of alliances the Triple Dominion(liom,der liom and Brotherhood of liom)Can as yet only support this move with trade that will help the dominion awken from its terrible nightmare.Once the political situation and the economic situation in our part of the region have stabilised-our men will be there to fill the sand bags and give their lives if necessary so as to stop this nightmare happening to any of our neighbours.

Liom the Great
Overseer of the eternal Dominion

I shall not stand by while nations i have an interest in are attacked by outsiders. I pledge to defend all members of my region with all the combined strength of my peoples.

The Armed Republic of FluffyMooCows welcomes this progress towards multilateralism. The Viking Nations stood idly by as Der Liom was invaded by Communist forces. This War Congress and Trade Pact should serve to strengthen our regional ties and deter any further incursions.

What items are on the agenda of the War Congress? My defence minister has offered a proposition. He suggests the establishment of a Viking Regional army. Each Viking state could donate a proportion of their military to the force. Such a force would be a much more manageable in military operations than a loose alliance of over 30 states. The units selected to train in the Viking army would rotate so that eventually all units would have experience in fighting alongside units from other Viking regions. This force could be used as a rapid responce force at first and could be expanded to a regional defense force.

What is involved in the Trade Pact? My Minister for Finance is very interested in a Viking Free Market. The demolition of internal tariff walls, the encouragement of competition and the free movement of goods and people. What are the views of the other Viking nations?

Yours Sincerely
Liam O Riain. Taoiseach, FluffyMooCows.

The armies of the R.U.K.H alliance agree to this idea.
WE are all for protecting the hallowed ground of our region and will co-operate in any military activites this Congress suggets.
we also believe in a strong economic field that could exist between all nations so we may become even richer.

Bob R. Rudiger
Emperor of the R.U.K.H Nations

The alliance of Pavees-Viking-topia fully support this alliance.However I will only support it as a defensive alliance.I will not support any hostile action towards any other nation, communist or not as my countries are not strong enough to fight an offensive war.Otherwise I fully agree to support all my allies economically and militarly.

Yours Sincerly,
Michael O Brien
President of the Nomadic People of Pavees

I agree to this trade pact and will pledge troops to the regional army if the idea goes ahead. The idea of the alliance being a defensive one is worthwhile for the time being. But as the size of our states grow so must our ambition. Should we elect an overall commander or act through agreement. I think the making of descisions by committee is the fairest but is not the best practice in warfare as the delays created are often fatal. I suggest that the descision to declare war must be taken by a committee descision and then the direction of the Allied Viking army will fall to an elected member of the Coalition. If any member state has an objection to the actions of the Commander-in-Cheif it can lodge an objection and if there is no suitable resolution can remove their forces from the Viking army as a last resort.

The Jingoistic Nations of Anti-Nationalists and The Fiefdom of Northkiltstown also sign this pact but we shall refuse to allow our forces to be used in an attackon any other region. also, we refuse to assossiae ourselves with the trade portion of this agreement ao as to maximise the independence of these left-wing nations and keep us free from any oppression attempted by our right-wing allies.

This is a good day.This war congress has a number of issues to resolve-My Der liom nation-my home and glorious heart of the triple dominion is still occupied albeit by a peace keeping force -this has to be a priority as we (as a region) can never be secure when outsiders have a foot hold.

As concerns the formation of a defensive regional army i think that it would be a great idea.I would like to put myself forward as its commander in chief with someone from the pansug alliance in vice command.As the largest alliances it is only fair that we would assume command-action however could not be taken without a majority vote of all national heads.

Liom the great
Overseer of the Dominion

This is a good day.This war congress has a number of issues to resolve-My Der liom nation-my home and glorious heart of the triple dominion is still occupied albeit by a peace keeping force -this has to be a priority as we (as a region) can never be secure when outsiders have a foot hold.

As concerns the formation of a defensive regional army i think that it would be a great idea.I would like to put myself forward as its commander in chief with someone from the pansug alliance in vice command.As the largest alliances it is only fair that we would assume command-action however could not be taken without a majority vote of all national heads.

Liom the great
Overseer of the Dominion

The Armed Republic of FluffyMooCows welcomes this progress towards multilateralism. The Viking Nations stood idly by as Der Liom was invaded by Communist forces. This War Congress and Trade Pact should serve to strengthen our regional ties and deter any further incursions.

What items are on the agenda of the War Congress? My defence minister has offered a proposition. He suggests the establishment of a Viking Regional army. Each Viking state could donate a proportion of their military to the force. Such a force would be a much more manageable in military operations than a loose alliance of over 30 states. The units selected to train in the Viking army would rotate so that eventually all units would have experience in fighting alongside units from other Viking regions. This force could be used as a rapid responce force at first and could be expanded to a regional defense force.

What is involved in the Trade Pact? My Minister for Finance is very interested in a Viking Free Market. The demolition of internal tariff walls, the encouragement of competition and the free movement of goods and people. What are the views of the other Viking nations?

Yours Sincerely
Liam O Riain. Taoiseach, FluffyMooCows.

The purpose of the war congress section of this agreement, is to improve the ease with which members of the confederated viking nations can defend themselves. As you so concisely put it, a single force would be far more manageable than a sprawling mass of miniature, unconnected armies.

I propose that each state that signs up to this agreement should "donate" 20% of their armed forces to the command of the war congress.

As regards command of these forces, committee action be too slow, however the concept of a single commander is also undesireable, as that individual may make rash decisions.
I propose that elections be held by the member states. Each INDIVIDUAL, not nation gets one vote. Each of these individuals should telegram Kristorg with their name, and the name of their candidate for commander. The 2 highest scoring candidates will be appointed as joint commanders. The results of these elections will be independantly verified.

This will eliminate lengthy discussion and debate, and check the power of the commander. The frequency of these elections will be decided upon at a later date.

As regards the economic side of the agreement, you hit the nail on the head. There will be freedom of movement of goods and people between those states that have signed up to the agreement.

To allay the fears of Northkiltstown, each member state will still be free to impose economic, or trade sanctions on other members, if that action is justified and in accordance with international law.

However and I cannot stress this enough, if another signator is attacked ALL other signators MUST render all possible assistance, regardless of politics. This, however does not apply if the nation in question initiated hostilities.

The Armed Republic of FluffyMooCows welcomes this progress towards multilateralism. The Viking Nations stood idly by as Der Liom was invaded by Communist forces. This War Congress and Trade Pact should serve to strengthen our regional ties and deter any further incursions.

What items are on the agenda of the War Congress? My defence minister has offered a proposition. He suggests the establishment of a Viking Regional army. Each Viking state could donate a proportion of their military to the force. Such a force would be a much more manageable in military operations than a loose alliance of over 30 states. The units selected to train in the Viking army would rotate so that eventually all units would have experience in fighting alongside units from other Viking regions. This force could be used as a rapid responce force at first and could be expanded to a regional defense force.

What is involved in the Trade Pact? My Minister for Finance is very interested in a Viking Free Market. The demolition of internal tariff walls, the encouragement of competition and the free movement of goods and people. What are the views of the other Viking nations?

Yours Sincerely
Liam O Riain. Taoiseach, FluffyMooCows.

The purpose of the war congress section of this agreement, is to improve the ease with which members of the confederated viking nations can defend themselves. As you so concisely put it, a single force would be far more manageable than a sprawling mass of miniature, unconnected armies.

I propose that each state that signs up to this agreement should "donate" 20% of their armed forces to the command of the war congress.

As regards command of these forces, committee action be too slow, however the concept of a single commander is also undesireable, as that individual may make rash decisions.
I propose that elections be held by the member states. Each INDIVIDUAL, not nation gets one vote. Each of these individuals should telegram Kristorg with their name, and the name of their candidate for commander. The 2 highest scoring candidates will be appointed as joint commanders. The results of these elections will be independantly verified.

This will eliminate lengthy discussion and debate, and check the power of the commander. The frequency of these elections will be decided upon at a later date.

As regards the economic side of the agreement, you hit the nail on the head. There will be freedom of movement of goods and people between those states that have signed up to the agreement.

To allay the fears of Northkiltstown, each member state will still be free to impose economic, or trade sanctions on other members, if that action is justified and in accordance with international law.

However and I cannot stress this enough, if another signator is attacked ALL other signators MUST render all possible assistance, regardless of politics. This, however does not apply if the nation in question initiated hostilities.

(Sorry about the double post, problem with the P.C.)

I just finished formalising the agreement. Questions and comments are welcome.

Draft Proposals for The Vikings Regional War Congress and Trade Pact.

Section A:
Economics + Trade:

No member nation shall impose an import tax , customs duty, or similar punitive tariff on goods from another member nation.

No member nation shall refuse freedom of movement to a citizen of another member nation (unless there is evidence of said individual being involved in illegal or terrorist activities.)

1% of a member nation’s GDP will annually be allocated to a common regional fund, which will be used:
To improve the infrastructure of smaller, poorer and weaker members.
To reconstruct the infrastructure of member nations after war, or terrorism.
To reconstruct the infrastructure of member nations after natural disasters.
To fund research (medical, military, telecommunications, etc) which will be shared with the other members.
(Infrastructure refers to road, rail, telecommunications, electricity, water supply, housing etc.)
Final Decisions on spending the common regional fund will lie with the War Congress.

With the exception of the above, all member nations are free to deal with their economies as they see fit. (i.e tax rates, economic sanctions, embargoes etc)

Section B:
Defense:

A Unified Viking Regional Army (referred to as the VRA) will be set up. This Army will be under the joint command of 2 INDIVIDUALS, elected by the War Congress. The War Congress will consist of the leaders of the member nations, (or if the leader is unavailable, he may send a representative.)

Each member state should “donate” 20% of their armed forces to the command of the VRA.

As regards offensive military actions, no OFFENSIVE action can be undertaken by the VRA without such action being passed by the War Congress. All members of the War Congress are allowed to veto such actions, thus preventing nations committing their forces to a war they condemn.

In the event of a member state being attacked, ALL other member states MUST render all possible assistance (financial, military, humanitarian, industrial, etc.) regardless of politics. However THIS DOES NOT APPLY IF HOSTILITIES WERE INITIATED BY THE MEMBER STATE IN QUESTION.

In the event of one member state attacking another, the War Congress will decide whether to expel one of the offending parties, both, intervene, or take no action. In such an event neither of the offending parties will have a vote in the War Congress.

With the exception of the above, all nations are free to use their national militaries as they see fit.

Section C:
Elections and Voting:

When voting, only one vote will be accepted per INDIVIDUAL. If an individual is found to have voted more than once by voting with different “puppet” states that they have set up, they will be punished as the War Congress sees fit (majority voting will be used to decide what penalty should be imposed)

To combat multi-voting, when casting a vote you must include your name. Any attempted fraud or perjury will be dealt with as the War Congress sees fit.

Votes should be cast by telegram to Kristorg. These votes will be independently verified.

Section D:
Entering and Exiting the Vikings Regional War Congress and Trade Pact:

Only nations that are located in the Confederated Viking Nations Region are eligible to become member states. Any nations outside the region that apply for membership will be declined.

Nations that are located in the Confederated Viking Nations Region that wish to become member states should publicly state their application for membership in the Vikings Regional War Congress and Trade Pact thread in the International Incidents section of the Forum (right here).

If a member state leaves the region for any reason, they will forfeit their membership.

Member states are free to leave the pact in peace-time. However, if the member states are engaged in a DEFENSIVE war, the member states may not resign their membership.

If a nation leaves the pact, the forces that they have given to the VRA will be returned to them.

I have observed what was written and like what i see-The Triple Dominion will see it done,there is strength in unity afterall.

Where do i sign?

From the war office of the dominion's Overseer
Liom the great

The Jingoistic Nations of Anti-Nationalists and The Fiefdom of Northkiltstown also sign this pact but we shall refuse to allow our forces to be used in an attackon any other region. also, we refuse to assossiae ourselves with the trade portion of this agreement ao as to maximise the independence of these left-wing nations and keep us free from any oppression attempted by our right-wing allies.

Surely your nation would be more independent if all of its trade was conducted internally within the region as there would be no exposed trade routes etc.

Also we suggest that a nation should contribute some of its GDP into a found that will be allocated to certain aspects of society in the region so as to improve the situation -like the rebuilding of Der liom as the triple alliance is far more useful to our region if it emerges as the economic and military juggernaught that it once was and yet can be.Eventually the money may be used for other reasons as they occur perhaps weapons development.


The shaven ones will formalise their commitment to this pact by sending an emmisary to every member state.We suggest that we get the VRA upand running as fast as possible so perhaps we should visit an arms broker.We think that we should aim for quantity rather than state of the art weaponry to start with as,having very advanced weapons in short supply is of no use when the enemies tanks are on your doorstep

Kristorg.

I agree with all articles in your previous statement. I wish however to raise a few points.

How will the 20% of a nations forces be decieded. Will it be the nations choice or will the War Congress pluck troops it needs from national forces. Also who will provide the funding for administrative staff and permanent General Staff needed to keep the VRA coherent. It would be unworkable to circulate the majority of the General Staff as it takes some time to acclimatise to such a situation. I suggest that either
a) the Commanders in Chief use their entire General Staff; or
b) each nation donates half a dozen top officers and they remain in the post permanently.

Option a has the advantage of the fact that the General Staff of the Commanders in Chief only have to accustomise themselves to one other group. The weakness is that at the time of transfer of Commanders in chief we would be incredibly weakened.

Option b has the advantage that there would be less weakness during the transfer period and that each nation would be represented. It would however be unwieldy until the staff became familiar with the setup.

Any other suggestions about the General Staff or anything else before the VRA is set up as it will be difficult to change the organisation after it is settled.

Yours
Liam O Riain Taoiseach, FluffyMooCows

Kristorg.

I agree with all articles in your previous statement. I wish however to raise a few points.

How will the 20% of a nations forces be decieded. Will it be the nations choice or will the War Congress pluck troops it needs from national forces. Also who will provide the funding for administrative staff and permanent General Staff needed to keep the VRA coherent. It would be unworkable to circulate the majority of the General Staff as it takes some time to acclimatise to such a situation. I suggest that either
a) the Commanders in Chief use their entire General Staff; or
b) each nation donates half a dozen top officers and they remain in the post permanently.

Option a has the advantage of the fact that the General Staff of the Commanders in Chief only have to accustomise themselves to one other group. The weakness is that at the time of transfer of Commanders in chief we would be incredibly weakened.

Option b has the advantage that there would be less weakness during the transfer period and that each nation would be represented. It would however be unwieldy until the staff became familiar with the setup.

Any other suggestions about the General Staff or anything else before the VRA is set up as it will be difficult to change the organisation after it is settled.

Yours
Liam O Riain Taoiseach, FluffyMooCows

The member nations will be "encouraged" to donate 20% of their armed forces to the VRA. If they fail to state what they are donating, then we shall simply assume that they want the war congress to choose the units they want.

When you refer to administrative staff, I assume that you are talking about logistics, maintenance and repair, company/battalion/divisional command, etc, basically the framework that keeps a military force supplied and informed.
I shall also assume that by General Staff you are referring to the higher echelons of military command: Generals, Admirals, Commadores etc, basically the individuals that act as liasons between the elected VRA commanders and the divisional/company/battalion command.

In order to address the question of administrative staff, I can only give my own military as an example.
0.8% of my population are in the military.
0.5% are in the army, 0.25% are in the navy, and 0.05% are in the air force.
In the Army, only 20% of the staff are designated as combatants. The other 80% form the administative staff, ie. logistics and supply, maintenance and repair, medical staff, divisional/battalion/company command, transport, intelligence officers, liason officers, etc.
In the Navy, only 20% of the staff are combatants, ie. are serving on designated war-ships. the other 80% are either serving on land, in naval installations, in similar roles as those described above, or are servind on non-combatant vessels, such as hospital ships, ammunition ships, troop transports, supply ships etc.
In the Air Force, only 10% of the staff are combatants, ie. combat pilots (either fighters or bombers). The other 90% are serving in similar roles as those described in the Army admin. staff. or are transport pilots, aircraft controllers, etc.

Now, when Kristorg donates 20% of it's armed forces to the VRA, 20% of our designated combatants will serve in the VRA forces, and 20% of our designated non-combatants will also be turned over to the VRA, to perform their various roles for the VRA.

We encourage the other nations to adopt a similar set-up.

As regards the general staff, we would recommend option b. We do not feel that risking continual disruptions to the command structure is worth the short-term advantage of option a. Therefore, each member should donate six top officers to remain in the post permanently. 2 of these officers should be from the army, 2 from the navy and 2 from the air-force. One officer from each of the branches of the military will be assigned to each of the Elected commanders of the VRA, liasing with their opposite number in the other Elected commanders camp.

We hope that this has clarified any points of ambiguity, if not, please keep asking questions. The sooner we can iron out any problems, the better.

Kristorg is now donating 20% of it's armed services to the VRA.

This equates to 90,000 Army personnel, 18,000 of whom are combatants. The other 72,000 are administrative staff, (as described in the last post.)

45,000 Navy personnel, 9,000 of whom are combatants. The other 36,000 are administative staff, (as described in the last post.)

9,000 Air Force personnel, 900 of whom are combatants. The other 8,100 are administrative staff, (as described in the last post.)

We are also donating 3 of our highest ranking officers from each of the branches of the Armed Forces (Army, Navy, Air Force) to serve in the general staff of the VRA.

The numbers of military personnel donated will increase, as our population increases with time. However we will not be constantly re-stating these forces every time our population increases, as this would take too much time and effort (re-working what % of our population are in the Armed Forces)
We shall simply assume that, since we stated what % of our population are in each of the branches of the military, the bureocracy of the VRA will work out what forces of ours have been pledged to them, and will assume command of those forces.

Frank Miller
Secretary of Foreign Affairs

Kristorg.

Yes you answered my questions. States nominate the forces to go. Armies supply their own administrative staff and General staff will be permanent. Thank you for your time. When will the election results be published

The Triple Dominion thinks that 20% is not enough in modern warfare numbers are everything and since we are land locked between other regional nations all we have is an army and an air force.As the largest alliance and by far the most highly militarised almost 2% of our entire population is in the armed forces with all having a mandatory 2 year term of service.We pledge 35% of our total armed forces to the struggle-all equipped in mechanised divisions-details will be sent later.

As regards the voting of the commander in chief we think that it is nonsensical to elect a leader in such a way.In war one must be willing to sacrifice all to win in this way we think that only The Overseer is qualified to lead and also because we propotionately have the hightest troop numbers it is only logical that we should have control with obviously sub commanders from the other nations.

Liom the Great and Eternal
Overseer of the Triple Dominion

El Liom: The results of the election will be made public on Monday.

Liom: Kristorg will not bow down like a common dog and serve you, merely because you are bigger than us. Kristorg does not bend to your will. We will do what the ballot box tells us to , we will not follow your orders. Judging by your comments, we feel that you are unfit to lead, as your inflammotory nature will cause more problems than it would solve. A good commander must know when to compromise, when to retreat, when to give, and when to take. I feel that you would lead our forces (small as they may be) to their destruction.

By the way everyone, in the next elections voting for yourself will not be allowed.

Elections will be held every 3 months.

Judging by your comments, we feel that you are unfit to lead, as your inflammotory nature will cause more problems than it would solve. A good commander must know when to compromise, when to retreat, when to give, and when to take. I feel that you would lead our forces (small as they may be) to their destruction.

Who better to drive the machine of war than us-your lands have been kept safe from invasion by the blood of my people.In war there must be no compromise and definately no surrender-you are lucky that the overseer sees fit to put you under the protection of the forces of his Triple Dominion.

Your troops would only ever be at the flanks of my spear head.

We wish to get the VRA up and running as fast as possible-publish the results sooner otherwise the enemies that are at our doorstep may come knocking.

The cost of this mobilisation(though) worth it will be great-we suggest that other nations in the region could be "persuaded" to sign up so as to spread the cost-its in their interest afterall.

The exhalted shaven one.

You want quicker results, fine, I'll try to publish them on Friday. However, there may be a problem with that, as 3 countries have equal votes.

We will do what the ballot box tells us to , we will not follow your orders. Judging by your comments, we feel that you are unfit to lead, as your inflammotory nature will cause more problems than it would solve. A good commander must know when to compromise, when to retreat, when to give, and when to take. I feel that you would lead our forces (small as they may be) to their destruction

I agree with Kristorg. Der Liom is a rash and overly-agressive individual. Do we want to have the person whose actions led to his country being occupied by communist forces, lead our glorious host into battle. for all we know Der Liom could be a puppet of the Communists who want to take control of the VRA. I agree with Kristorg about the need for a commander who is realistic, who can give and take when needed.

Viking Nations

I, Minister For Defence Van Der Heyden donate 20% of FluffyMooCows military to the VRA. I hope all other states will follow suit so that once the commader has been elected he will have a force to command. This force consists of units from the Army and Air Corps.

119,000 Army personnel, 23,800 combat troops and 95,000 administrative staff

79,360 Air Corps personnel, 7,936 combat pilots and 71,424 administrative staff

We will do what the ballot box tells us to , we will not follow your orders. Judging by your comments, we feel that you are unfit to lead, as your inflammotory nature will cause more problems than it would solve. A good commander must know when to compromise, when to retreat, when to give, and when to take. I feel that you would lead our forces (small as they may be) to their destruction

I agree with Kristorg. Der Liom is a rash and overly-agressive individual. Do we want to have the person whose actions led to his country being occupied by communist forces, lead our glorious host into battle. for all we know Der Liom could be a puppet of the Communists who want to take control of the VRA. I agree with Kristorg about the need for a commander who is realistic, who can give and take when needed.


Dont be too quick to call me a commie (lambchops).The truth is that i get things done without any need for diplomacy.

We have a suggestion to make-Having such a large portion of our armed forces on permanent standby will be very expensive.We suggest that the VRA become a mercenary force to foot the bill.There are many benefits ,we could valuable frontline experience and we could earn some well needed cash.We might only enter conflicts on the side that is assured to win.

Liom the Great and Eternal
Overseer of the Triple Dominion

It's settled now. There will be 3 VRA joint commanders, Kristorg, El Liom, and Der Liom. That's what the votes were before the dissolution of the elections, due to a disregard for the closed ballot system.

Whether he will get us into trouble or not is irrelevant, as he is now elected.

TheUrukHai and her sister nation Joeystonia wish to sign the Pact,

Maynard James Keenan,
UrukHai Minister for Defence

OOC:IM declaring myself the leader of the VRA because youre all to weak and sickly

IC:In a meeting in the newly rebuilt Hazler shots ring out at the first meeting of the VRA with all delegeates that oppose LIOM being killed."I proclaim myself overseer of the entire region.My dominion shall be anywhere my people are buried.My dream of a continental dominion is realised withmy reign lasting for a thousand years.All who oppose me will perish in the fires of my industries as i drive the machine of war to my destiny.I declare the entire Vikings region my Dominion."

Liom the Great and Eternal
Overseer of the New Continental Dominion
and Father of the glorious Triple dominion of Liom

'HE DID WHAT!!!!!' The startled secretary took one look at O'Riains face and fled. The leader of FluffyMooCows had just learnt that his supposed ally had murdered the delagates to the Vikings War and Trade Council. O'Riain spent the next few minutes in a beserk fury common to the people in the Viking region. A chair flew out the 71st window. 'What is that prick up to?' he thought as he began to regain his composure. He buzzed his secretary, 'Could you come in here Jane'. The secretary entered cautiously. 'You rang?' Just then the chair that he had flung through the window landed and the screams of the person it landed on could be heard, even up so high. That made O'Riain feel strangely better. He smoothed the front of his suit and sat down. 'I'll dictate a letter to you Jane, i want it in LIOM by the morning.'

To: The Leader of LIOM.

LIOM your recent actions in the VRA Council are very displeasing to us in FluffyMooCows. Our delagate to the Council, Defence Minister Van Der Heyden is missing (assumed dead given your Human Rights record). Your unlawful usurption of power is not recommended. As i am a forgiving man, and i didnt really like Van Der Heyden very much i am willing to listen to your reasoning behind this violence. You do realise that if you offend the members of the VRA, they will not pledge you their support. I am an advocate of strong leadership and see the benefits of a single leader but i doubt the sanity and intelligence of a man who kills delagates from states he is allied to. What are your aims if the Vikings do support you?

Yours
Liam O'Riain. Taoiseach, FluffyMooCows.


As he looked out the window over the huge sprawling city of Cluainlarach he wondered why his ally Liom would act in such a manner. All sorts of conspiracy theories arose in O'Riains mind. 'Lets see what the crazy feicer has to say for himself.'

The Kingdom of Keol has been following closely the devleopments in your region and congratulate you for your pact. Since we belong to a region on the other side of the sea and our armies are not fully developed we do not consider it appropriate to submit a request to join the pact.

However I, on behalf of my people, would like to establish commercial and diplomatic relations with your region as a whole and with the individual countries too.

As an initial step I am hereby requesting your permission to establish an Embassy in one of your capital cities.

Looking forward to hearing from you

King Octo Kreyol

King Octo Kreyol of Keol.
An embassy from your state would be most welcome in Cluainlarach, capital of FluffyMooCows. That is on the condition that an embassy would also be created in your capital. I hope this move will strengthen and further encourage greater ties between our two states and the great region of Vikings. It is a troubled region at the moment but that will soon pass i am sure.

Your sincerely
Liam O'Riain. Taoiseach, FluffyMooCows

King Octo Kreyol of Keol.
An embassy from your state would be most welcome in Cluainlarach, capital of FluffyMooCows. That is on the condition that an embassy would also be created in your capital. I hope this move will strengthen and further encourage greater ties between our two states and the great region of Vikings. It is a troubled region at the moment but that will soon pass i am sure.

Your sincerely
Liam O'Riain. Taoiseach, FluffyMooCows

Unfortunaltely, the nations of Kristorg, Moloneystan, Snuggle-topia, Snugland and Snugdovia are currently involved in a Civil war, and due to the political instability and unrest, we do not feel that it would be safe for you to send a diplomatic retinue to our war-torn nations.

Lioms dominion is interested in incresing his world influnence and will let you have an embassy in Hazler my glorious capital in the der liom region of the Triple alliance

It would be wiser for you to set an embassy in my capital-This reason will soon be MINE

To: Liam O'Riain. Taoiseach, FluffyMooCows

On behalf of my people, I thank you for your kindness and hereby express my wish to establish our embassy in Cluainlarach, capital of FluffyMooCows. In return we grant you permission and should you accept it, one of the finest examples of Keolite architecture in Kapital City for you to establish your own embassy.

We look forward to establish trade between our countries.

Octo Kreyol,
King of Keol

TO: Liom the Great

I thank you for your offer and shall instruct my subdits to prepare in order to establish an embassy in Liom's Dominion. However, given the recent death of Minister Van Der Heyden from FlufflyMooCows and the suspicious circumstances of his decease, I have been advised by my Minister of Foreign Affairs to wait until the investigation is complete and the culprit is found. Otherwise it would be like being dragged into a fight in a pub when all you're looking for is the loo.

With kind regards,
King Octo Kreyol of Keol.

Liom does not offer more than once

Keol does not beg

Thank you for your kind offer Keol. I will dispatch diplomats to your country at once. I look forward to strengthening ties between our two states. But first i have to deal with the minor irritation that is LIOM. Wont be a sec...

FluffyMooCows, since we have initiated diplomatic relations, I would like to offer whatever help we can provide in dealing with your nuisance.

Please advise if necessary.

Dont start something you cant win-there is few who can stand against the alliance of the triple dominion and the newly formed pan snug alliance