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Republic of Austar Union officially condemns Holy Panooly!

Austar Union
08-03-2004, 09:29
Today, the President has officially condemned the actions of Holy Panooly.

They have sold weapons of mass destruction to terrorists, which is in violation of Point 1 of our peace treaty:
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Peace Treaty between Holy Panooly and the Austar Union terms:

1) Holy Panooly discontinues its full support for terrorism. It issues an official statement (whole new thread) to say this.

2) No attack to be made on Holy Paloony soil, as likewise

3) Current WMD cache to be handed over to the Austar Union, to be transported by AU Ships[/code:1:25515b0928]

Evidence: http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=128981

They have also threatened an invasion of our ally, Credonia.
Evidence:
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=129647
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=129293

This may lead to a full invasion and occupation of territories of Holy Panooly. Our Senate is discussing the possibility. Another alternative will be a full blockaid of HP territory.
Holy panooly
08-03-2004, 09:31
Good luck with blocking a region with more than 1 billion inhabitants. ViZion said that i'm allowed to use the nations in my region in the war. So you are going down if comes to an invasion.
Austar Union
08-03-2004, 09:34
Good luck with blocking a region with more than 1 billion inhabitants. ViZion said that i'm allowed to use the nations in my region in the war. So you are going down if comes to an invasion.

It is highly unlikely that you will defeat Austarian forces...

Anyway, consider a full trade embargo placed upon your nation (OOC: Even though it probably will do very little). Plus, any embassies of yours within the Austar Union should be considered raided by the Austar Union. Your diplomats have been arrested and placed in a humanitarian approved holding area.
Holy panooly
08-03-2004, 09:36
But I do think it's very likely. Check my map to know a little more about nation before you start screaming about an easy victory.
Austar Union
08-03-2004, 09:38
But I do think it's very likely. Check my map to know a little more about nation before you start screaming about an easy victory.

You should research me a little more HP. You will see that I have weapons systems which havent ever been seen (roleplayed) yet. I'm sure you would find it extremly difficult for you to fight Austarian Forces efficiently...

Not to mention the systems I am still building at the moment...
Austar Union
08-03-2004, 09:39
But I do think it's very likely. Check my map to know a little more about nation before you start screaming about an easy victory.

And I have already checked you map...
Holy panooly
08-03-2004, 09:42
time for simple math!

Holy Panooly; 597 million + Atemananki; 409 million + Theohuanacu; 397 million + Crepes; 396 million = 1799 Billion people
1799 - 987 = 812 million people short in the Austar Union camp.

I'll update this when I know the new population numbers
Austar Union
08-03-2004, 09:43
time for simple math!

Holy Panooly; 597 million + Atemananki; 409 million + Theohuanacu; 397 million + Crepes; 396 million = 1799 Billion people
1799 - 987 = 812 million people short in the Austar Union camp.

I'll update this when I know the new population numbers

Do you think that population alone will deter me? Surely you have heard of strategy, no wait, you have only heard of terrorism...
Holy panooly
08-03-2004, 09:43
Research all you want. If it's not modern tech consider it ignored. This war will be strictly modern.
Holy panooly
08-03-2004, 09:44
I don't think any strategy can compensate a 812 million diffirence in population. Not the mention I have much more money.
Cousin Eddie
08-03-2004, 09:47
Today, the President has officially condemned the actions of Holy Panooly.

They have sold weapons of mass destruction to terrorists, which is in violation of Point 1 of our peace treaty:
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Peace Treaty between Holy Panooly and the Austar Union terms:

1) Holy Panooly discontinues its full support for terrorism. It issues an official statement (whole new thread) to say this.

2) No attack to be made on Holy Paloony soil, as likewise

3) Current WMD cache to be handed over to the Austar Union, to be transported by AU Ships[/code:1:cac54aaa3a]

Evidence: http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=128981

They have also threatened an invasion of our ally, Credonia.
Evidence:
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=129647
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=129293

This may lead to a full invasion and occupation of territories of Holy Panooly. Our Senate is discussing the possibility. Another alternative will be a full blockaid of HP territory.

I don't wana make myself unpopular because I am a dwarf talking to giants, but surely there is a difference between supporting terrorism and selling weapons? HP sells weapons to terrorists, but this does not necessarily mean that they support the usage of them...right...?
Holy panooly
08-03-2004, 09:49
I think it's a very smart comment actually. You are brave enough to say what you want. And I do think this whole war Austar union is preparing is nothing but a witch hunt for a scapegoat. (Me)
Austar Union
08-03-2004, 09:52
Research all you want. If it's not modern tech consider it ignored. This war will be strictly modern.

Assuming this does break out into a war. And anyway, havent you even considered that I have my own set of nations. I wont say who they are, but here are the numbers:

Austar Union: 987 Million
Puppet #1: 734 Million
Puppet #2 (Currently being revived): Approximatly 700 Million
Puppet #3: 128 Million

Total: Approximatly 2549 Million

Austarian - Holy Panooly = 750 Million

Do you wish to fight me on population alone?
Austar Union
08-03-2004, 09:53
I don't wana make myself unpopular because I am a dwarf talking to giants, but surely there is a difference between supporting terrorism and selling weapons? HP sells weapons to terrorists, but this does not necessarily mean that they support the usage of them...right...?

Mmmm, if you read the evidence, he also gives money to terrorists...
Holy panooly
08-03-2004, 09:55
I haven't gave them money. I sold weapons to normal nations via a legal way.
And damn your ignorance is unbelievable... Guess what? I'm already at war with 2 other nations so sit back and take a number. I'm not in the mood to RP even more with brainwashed, anti terror nations. Consider your actions ignored.
Xhadam
08-03-2004, 09:56
We urge HP to consider that the AU is not alone in their condemnation of your support of terrorism and sale of weapons of mass destruction to all comers. You may have your region to back you but he has backers as well...
Austar Union
08-03-2004, 09:58
I haven't gave them money. I sold Nations weapons via a legal way. Your ignorance is unbelievable... And guess what? I'm already at war with 2 other nations so sit back and take a number. I'm not in the mood to RP even more with brainwashed, anti terror nations. Consider your actions ignored.

Funny that you decide to ignore me once I state that I can easily send you into next wednesday...

Anyway, how can you ignore a condemnation? I have never actually started a war yet. Just stating that I am considering it. And you know, I even have the character to wait until your other two wars are finished. That is if I decide to and if you arent destroyed already...
Holy panooly
08-03-2004, 09:58
blah blah blah blah I hate terrorists so I start picking on a nation who sells weapons. The pot calls the fucking kettle black.
Austar Union
08-03-2004, 09:58
We urge HP to consider that the AU is not alone in their condemnation of your support of terrorism and sale of weapons of mass destruction to all comers. You may have your region to back you but he has backers as well...

We thank you for your support.
Austar Union
08-03-2004, 10:00
blah blah blah blah I hate terrorists so I start picking on a nation who sells weapons. The pot calls the f--- kettle black.

No. We are having a war against terrorism. You sell weapons to terrorists, therefore you are considered a supporter of terrorists. Therefore, you are a target of the Austar Union. Not to mention that you broke our peace treaty...
Holy panooly
08-03-2004, 10:01
I haven't gave them money. I sold Nations weapons via a legal way. Your ignorance is unbelievable... And guess what? I'm already at war with 2 other nations so sit back and take a number. I'm not in the mood to RP even more with brainwashed, anti terror nations. Consider your actions ignored.

Funny that you decide to ignore me once I state that I can easily send you into next wednesday...

Anyway, how can you ignore a condemnation? I have never actually started a war yet. Just stating that I am considering it. And you know, I even have the character to wait until your other two wars are finished. That is if I decide to and if you arent destroyed already...

I'm just ignoring you for the time being. No hard feelings, I'm already at war with the British Communists and another country in my region. And I've sent some of my troops to Credonia's waters. Don't be pissed, it's for my own convenience and because i'm sick and tired with all the terrorism threats. Just make a trade embargo and let's not talk about this again. I can't ignore trade embargos you know...
Austar Union
08-03-2004, 10:06
We will wait until you have finished your two wars. Anyway, we are taking part in the defense of Credonia, so expect me there. But once your wars are over, we will stage a possible invasion.

I wonder, will this all lead to a bit of a cold war between us? I dunno...

OOC: Everything here is IC, so if I sound like i'm getting offended then i'm not. Its all in the name of RP :wink:
Holy panooly
08-03-2004, 10:09
OOC: it's ok :)

IC: I think we both aren't availed by an invasion. Release my diplomats and I'll accept the trade embargo.
Austar Union
08-03-2004, 10:15
Your diplomats will remain in custody, unless you want them sent to HP. We can arrange a flight out of the Austar Union.

Prison where HP diplomats are held

http://www.bigstonegap.org/pictures/prison.jpg
Holy panooly
08-03-2004, 10:16
Nice prison... ours are bamboo cages in the jungle

Anyway, I would really like them to be sent back to HP. If you do that then we will accept your trade embargo
Austar Union
08-03-2004, 10:24
We will release your diplomats to HP if you provide us the following:

A military base run and occupied by Austarian Forces. It must be located somewhere along The Great Fish River, in The Panooly Jungle. Then we can be assured that you may not attempt an attack on the Austar Union.
Holy panooly
08-03-2004, 10:28
We allow you to build a base, though we aren't responsible when the local people are doing weird things. That's one thing you have to accept. Secondly, no nuclear, chemical, biological or any long range weapon will be kept within it's walls. If you agree, then we wish you a happy time in a jungle full of tropical diseases!
Austar Union
08-03-2004, 10:41
We allow you to build a base, though we aren't responsible when the local people are doing weird things. That's one thing you have to accept. Secondly, no nuclear, chemical, biological or any long range weapon will be kept within it's walls. If you agree, then we wish you a happy time in a jungle full of tropical diseases!

That is fine... we will build this base:

Foriegn Base Model A

This base comes complete with an airstrip, capable of launching most fighters and bombers. It also comes with the capability to house up to 300 000 troops as any one given time. This base also comes with a small missile facility, able to launch missiles up to 150km away (short range). There are also limited Naval Facilities...

Regular Defenses are incorported.

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We also ask that we are able to have a "fly-zone", where Austarian incoming and outcoming flights may fly. We suggest the southern area of Holy Panooly, up to and including the latitude of Sine. This is nessasary to make the base fully operational.
Holy panooly
08-03-2004, 10:43
Start building! oh yeah, you have to buy the land first. Since the rainforest is protected I have to bribe some activists... You may have the piece of land for 1 billion.
Austar Union
08-03-2004, 10:47
So our fly zone is permitted?

If the answer is yes, we will send the billion dollars, including your diplomats. I want to buy a large portion of land. (The base will have a perimeter of 5km demilitirized zone around it. That area will be dedicated to our forces only...
Holy panooly
08-03-2004, 10:49
Sure. You can start building.
Austar Union
08-03-2004, 10:57
Very Good. We will commence construction immediatly. Our teams have been sent to Holy Panooly. We expect this added information to be added to the Holy Panooly map, including the location of our base, and the area that is designated the "Austarian Fly-Zone". Construction should be complete within 6 months...

Your diplomats have been advised of their departure, and they are currently packing their things.
Holy panooly
08-03-2004, 11:00
very well. I'll this to my map when I get home.