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Invitation to bid - Building of a modern army

Sidar Jabari
06-03-2004, 23:10
As a young nation, The Most Serene Republic of Sidar Jabari would like to modernize its army. We currently spend 2.815 billion for military purposes.
We are making an invitation to bid.

Your nations are invited to propose us a "complete army" : naval, ground and air force, and maybe police. (OOC: modern army with the newest high-tech as far as possible, but not sci-fi)

Please note that the Most Serene Republic of Sidar Jabari consists in a main island (plus a few little archipelagos).
Uranium fields have been discovered in some of our isles and are being exploited, we own the most recent civil nuclear technology ( so nuclear military technology conceivable). We insist on the fact that our army is dedicated to take part in regional or international peace-keeping operations and to defend our territory. We don't intend to invade other countries or attack them unprovokedly. So we are not interested in biological, chemical weapons or such. We want to possess a strong deterrent force and a modern army able to withstand any attack, to send taskforce abroad and to react as quick as possible, especially to maintain peace.


For Julius I, the Doge of Sidar Jabari,
the Chancellor Palatine, Eric Philibert, (OOC: = Secretary of Trade and the Treasury)
the Griffin Knight, Ezel Rachnov, (OOC: = Defence Minister )
the Harbour Master, Greg Warthas, (OOC: = Minister of Navy)
Sidar Jabari
06-03-2004, 23:53
NB: Our army shall include "International Rapid Deployment Brigades" or shall be easily and quickly deployed on the whole.
Kotterdam
07-03-2004, 00:26
The Dominion has heeded your request and come up with an armed force start-up package costing less than your initial requested price of $2.815 Billion. This includes military transport aircraft, fighter aircraft, armoured vehicles, artillery, infantry weapons sufficient to equip your entire fighting force with significant reserves for training and other uses, and two modern naval craft, all at a great discount due to the bulk nature of your order.

Total Force: 90,000 Officers and Enlisted
Combat Arms: 22,500 Officers and Enlisted
Package Cost: $2,790,000,000 ($2.79 Billion)

Infantry Weapons
100,000 Viking Firearms/Fabrique National K1A1 FN-FAL (7.62x51mm NATO)
25,000 Walther/Viking Firearms P99/10 Pistols (10mm Auto)
25,000 Viking Firearms K8A1 Raven Submachine Guns (10mm Auto SMG)
10,000 Viking Firearms K8A2 Raven Silenced SMGs (10mm Auto)
10,000 Fabrique National M240 General Purpose Machine Guns (7.62x51mm NATO)
1,000 Viking Firearms K7A1 Assault Shotguns (12-Gauge)
1,000 Browning M2QCB Heavy Machine Guns (.50BMG)
1,000 Viking Firearms K9A1 "Incinerator" Flamethrowers
1,000 Heckler & Koch MSG90 Sniper Rifle (7.62x51mm NATO)
1,000 Barrett M82A2 "Light Fifty" Sniper Rifle (.50BMG)

Naval Assets
2 Corsair-Class Guided Missile Frigates
2 SH-71A Sea Python ASW Helicopters

Land Assets
10 BOFORS 40mm Anti-Aircraft Artillery guns
10 KMC IFV-2 Normandy Self-Propelled 105mm Howitzers
20 LW155 155mm Towed Howitzers
50 MAFV-1 Borden Medium Tanks
90 IFV-2 Normandy Infantry Fighting Vehicles

Air Assets
10 F-37E Shalakh ASTOVL Fighters
10 C-130K Super Hercules Cargo Aircraft
40 UH-71A Python Utility Helicopters
Sidar Jabari
07-03-2004, 00:34
We thank you for having proposed us this attractive offer. Nevertheless, we would have expected more naval forces (Sidar Jabari is composed of islands).
You understand that we will consider it with care, and wait for other proposals. We shall give you a final answer within a week.
Kotterdam
07-03-2004, 00:44
We understand that you would greatly prefer a larger naval contingent. Unfortunately, due to the size of your nation, and of the budget put forth, constructing a practical army has restricted our options. To put matters into perspective - Your entire budget would not have purchased one of the Dominion's large aircraft carriers, or even one of the smaller escort carriers. You could barely afford a single Juneau-class Battleship.

As well, the ship's company of a single Dominion-class Aircraft Carrier is larger than you are currently able to support, and that is without your air wing. Increasing the size of your navy too dramatically would have crippled one of the other arms of your military. The Dominion would, however, be happy to continue to supply your nation with naval assets as you grow, and could even alter the patrol route of one of our carrier battlegroups to protect your nation in case of invasion.
Sidar Jabari
07-03-2004, 00:56
We apologize for having so badly evaluated the situation. We are a young nation. Thanks to your explanations, we understand better your offer.
We hope that, in the future, you will supply our nation with military assets as we grow, whether we accept your current bid or not.

Even if we declined your bid, would you mind to the patrol route of one of your carrier battlegroups to protect our nation in case of invasion?

We wish we could exchange embassies too.
Sidar Jabari
07-03-2004, 01:36
Since we have earned 4 billion by building presidential estate for another nation, we decide to add these 4 billion to the 2.815 bilion.

We are now ready to spend 6.815 billion for the building of our army. Please could you make a new offer ?
Kotterdam
07-03-2004, 03:24
In response to your request, we have revised the Basic Military Package offered to your nation to reflect the increased budget given. As well, the DNS Bulwark has had her patrol route altered so that her battlegroup may protect your nation.

Package Cost: $6,678,000,000 ($6.678 Billion)

Infantry Weapons
100,000 Viking Firearms/Fabrique National K1A1 FN-FAL (7.62x51mm NATO)
25,000 Walther/Viking Firearms P99/10 Pistols (10mm Auto)
25,000 Viking Firearms K8A1 Raven Submachine Guns (10mm Auto SMG)
10,000 Viking Firearms K8A2 Raven Silenced SMGs (10mm Auto)
10,000 Fabrique National M240 General Purpose Machine Guns (7.62x51mm NATO)
1,000 Viking Firearms K7A1 Assault Shotguns (12-Gauge)
1,000 Browning M2QCB Heavy Machine Guns (.50BMG)
1,000 Viking Firearms K9A1 "Incinerator" Flamethrowers
1,000 Heckler & Koch MSG90 Sniper Rifle (7.62x51mm NATO)
1,000 Barrett M82A2 "Light Fifty" Sniper Rifle (.50BMG)

Naval Assets
1 F-37E Shalakh ASTOVL Fighter
1 Oberon-E Class Trimaran Guided Missile Frigate
2 Adams-Class Diesel Attack Submarines
4 Corsair-Class Guided Missile Frigates
6 SH-71A Sea Python ASW Helicopters

Land Assets
10 BOFORS 40mm Anti-Aircraft Artillery guns
10 KMC IFV-2 Normandy Self-Propelled 105mm Howitzers
20 LW155 155mm Towed Howitzers
50 MAFV-1 Borden Medium Tanks
90 IFV-2 Normandy Infantry Fighting Vehicles

Air Assets
10 C-130K Super Hercules Cargo Aircraft
30 F-37E Shalakh ASTOVL Fighters
40 UH-71A Python Utility Helicopters
Kelanthia
07-03-2004, 03:31
While we see that Kotterdam has already offered a fine selection of items, we would like to add that if there are any other specific items that you feel have been overlooked, please feel free to visit the Kelanthian Arms Conglomerate for high-quality, low-priced, modern-tech military vehicles for any needs.

http://img3.photobucket.com/albums/v13/Draconis/kac_banner.jpg (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=62566)
07-03-2004, 03:39
May we offer disarmanent as an alternitive. Thus you could spend your military budget on the people. We know that this is a risky step for any country however, without unilateral disarmanent there shall never be multinational. We have thrown down our weapons maybe you should.
AfrikaZkorps
07-03-2004, 03:56
The Dominion has heeded your request and come up with an armed force start-up package costing less than your initial requested price of $2.815 Billion. This includes military transport aircraft, fighter aircraft, armoured vehicles, artillery, infantry weapons sufficient to equip your entire fighting force with significant reserves for training and other uses, and two modern naval craft, all at a great discount due to the bulk nature of your order.

Total Force: 90,000 Officers and Enlisted
Combat Arms: 22,500 Officers and Enlisted
Package Cost: $2,790,000,000 ($2.79 Billion)

Infantry Weapons
100,000 Viking Firearms/Fabrique National K1A1 FN-FAL (7.62x51mm NATO)
25,000 Walther/Viking Firearms P99/10 Pistols (10mm Auto)
25,000 Viking Firearms K8A1 Raven Submachine Guns (10mm Auto SMG)
10,000 Viking Firearms K8A2 Raven Silenced SMGs (10mm Auto)
10,000 Fabrique National M240 General Purpose Machine Guns (7.62x51mm NATO)
1,000 Viking Firearms K7A1 Assault Shotguns (12-Gauge)
1,000 Browning M2QCB Heavy Machine Guns (.50BMG)
1,000 Viking Firearms K9A1 "Incinerator" Flamethrowers
1,000 Heckler & Koch MSG90 Sniper Rifle (7.62x51mm NATO)
1,000 Barrett M82A2 "Light Fifty" Sniper Rifle (.50BMG)

Naval Assets
2 Corsair-Class Guided Missile Frigates
2 SH-71A Sea Python ASW Helicopters

Land Assets
10 BOFORS 40mm Anti-Aircraft Artillery guns
10 KMC IFV-2 Normandy Self-Propelled 105mm Howitzers
20 LW155 155mm Towed Howitzers
50 MAFV-1 Borden Medium Tanks
90 IFV-2 Normandy Infantry Fighting Vehicles

Air Assets
10 F-37E Shalakh ASTOVL Fighters
10 C-130K Super Hercules Cargo Aircraft
40 UH-71A Python Utility Helicopters
Could I buy 2 of thoose?
Newtdom
07-03-2004, 04:00
The Empire and the Emperor wish to express to your fledgling nation the utmost luck in the building of your military force. We pride ourselves on our military, in particularly our navy, despite the fact we are not an island nation. Our navy is considered one of the largest and strongest in the world, and with your permission we would very much so aid you in building a force to reckon with.

First, we will send you military attaches and advisors to train a paramilitary force. Later these can be trained to further specializations or kept as a paramilitary/police force. We will provide our M-16 rifles, which we have recently decommisioned from a great military and police record. The M-16 comes with its bayonet/combat knife, or grenade launcer depending upon your preferance. Along the same lines we offer you a selection of pistols to choose from. All sorts are offered, but we do have a surplus of Glocks that we can offer for this service. Following this stage would be stage two of training.

Stage two would commense one year (ingame) after training of your paramilitary force. It would consist of more military attaches, advisors, and this time professors and generals to help teach your outstanding citizens tactics. This stage would also bring in different sorts of weapons, any of which can be decided upon when the time comes (in other words tg me what you want). This would allow you to also have a trained infantry force. With that we offer the opportunity for some of your men to come to our nation and train on our tank simulators, or jet simulators. As to give your future tank brigades and squadrons the opportunity to learn the basis to their weapon. Following this would be stage three.

Stage three would begin six months after stage two. This would bring in naval personel. We offer you our outdated ships of war which can vary upon what you wish. Currently your nation can not handle large battleships or battlecruisers, like our Juka Class or Chamberlain class ships. Upon your advancement these ships would be offered to you for a lower price then most other nations. We will offer missile frigates, cruisers, a Nimitz or Xev-Nac class Carrier, Virginia class subs, and patrol boats. We also will offer you F-16's, and F-15's at this point for your Aircorp. And will offer you M1A2 Abram tanks, Bradley Fighting Vechiles, and Devastator Assualt tanks depending on your preferance. Following this would be the fourth and final stage.

Stage four would begin two months after stage three. This would bring in advanced fighter jets, such as the NAF Phoenix or the NAF Twillight Bomber. Both of which are some of the most advanced fighters and bombers on the market today. We shall also bring in airforce personel to aid your corp. We shall also offer a Juka Battleship or Battlecruiser or a Chamberlain Battlecruiser (battleship is not for offer as it is our newest weapon and we do not offer it for sale). We also will train paratroopers, and special ops. At this point the option of a stage five will be brought before you. This would allow training in biological, chemical, and nuclear warfare. This would be your choice and would cost much more than your currently offered price.

With the most humble ambitions,
William Chamberlain IV
Steward
Minister of State
07-03-2004, 04:00
May we offer disarmanent as an alternitive. Thus you could spend your military budget on the people. We know that this is a risky step for any country however, without unilateral disarmanent there shall never be multinational. We have thrown down our weapons maybe you should.

Think about it
Kotterdam
07-03-2004, 05:40
In response to a request from the Most Serene Republic, the Dominion has retooled our offer to reflect their desire to employ domestically produced firearms rather than rely on foreign suppliers for such basic supplies. As a result, we now offer you a full squadron of our tail-rotorless stealth attack helicopters to compliment the VTOL-capable stealth fighters we have offered you in the F-37E Shalakh. The price of the package has increased, but it is still well below your budget.

As well, in the interest of furthering relations between our two nations, we will offer training with the equipment we will be selling you. The Dominion will fly in instructors to train all aspects of your military except for one: The crews of your armoured vehicles, as well as the infantrymen assigned to your IFVs, and the crews of your attack helicopters will be flown to the Dominion to be trained at our elite Salem's Field Armoured Cavalry Training Center. There, they will undergo one of the finest combined arms training programs in the world, training in the equipment sold to your government, at our government's expense. When we return them to you, they will be a fighting force equal to any in the world.

We also wish to assure you of something - Whether you accept our package or not, the DNS Bulwark's patrol route has been changed, and her battlegroup assigned to protect your island nation as vigorously as if it were their home. We stand by our friends.

Package Cost: $6,792,000,000 ($6.792 Billion)

Naval Assets
1 F-37E Shalakh ASTOVL Fighter
1 Oberon-E Class Trimaran Guided Missile Frigate
2 Adams-Class Diesel Attack Submarines
4 Corsair-Class Guided Missile Frigates
6 SH-71A Sea Python ASW Helicopters

Land Assets
10 BOFORS 40mm Anti-Aircraft Artillery guns
10 KMC IFV-2 Normandy Self-Propelled 105mm Howitzers
20 LW155 155mm Towed Howitzers
50 MAFV-1 Borden Medium Tanks
90 IFV-2 Normandy Infantry Fighting Vehicles

Air Assets
10 C-130K Super Hercules Cargo Aircraft
10 AH-67A Wolverine Stealth Attack Helicopters
30 F-37E Shalakh ASTOVL Fighters
40 UH-71A Python Utility Helicopters

AfrikaZkorps
While we welcome your interest, we are saddened to inform you that your order has been declined on the basis of your human rights record. Should your record improve, we would be happy to engage in the trade of military hardware, but not before that time.

Lamezville
Unilateral disarmament does not and never has worked. It simply invites either invasion from without, or the rise of an armed rebellion to replace your government from within. Human nature - Namely our propensity for greed - Prevents it from being a viable option. Disarmament is only viable if it is universal, otherwise those nations with the will to maintain an armed force will dictate terms to the disarmed nations. If you wish to plead your case, make an independant public statement. Otherwise, stop spamming arms development and sales threads with your message. We are obviously not a receptive audience.
AfrikaZkorps
07-03-2004, 05:45
"AfrikaZkorps
While we welcome your interest, we are saddened to inform you that your order has been declined on the basis of your human rights record. Should your record improve, we would be happy to engage in the trade of military hardware, but not before that time. "

Thats so hard to do......
Sidar Jabari
07-03-2004, 11:53
Kotterdam : Your offer is attractive, we are taking time to think about. We appreciate your friendship and really want to exchange embassies. We are grateful to you for having the DNS Bulwark's patrol route changed, and her battlegroup assigned to protect our island nation as vigorously as if it were their home.

Newtdom : Your offer is quite interesting, but you didn't mention the cost of all this formation. Please do, for us to consider your bid.

For the Doge of Sidar Jabari,
Ezel Rachnov, the Griffin Knight.
Kotterdam
07-03-2004, 12:49
We are equally interested in exchanging embassies with Sidar Jabari. The Dominion shall cede a parcel of land within the capital of Dominion City to Sidar Jabari for the construction of an Embassy and an Ambassador's residence. In the meantime, your Ambassador, should you send one, shall be the guest of the Prime Minister in his own residence.
07-03-2004, 12:56
The IDF Region memeber states are willing to place drug cartels inside your nation and attempt to elimate any independent/outside dealers and provide you (or the charity of your choice) with 60& of profits in exhange for allow legal immunity for the cartel operating inside your borders.
Sidar Jabari
07-03-2004, 15:02
Official Telegram to Kotterdam

Mr Oliver Kappas is appointed the ambassador of The Most Serene Republic of Sidar Jabari to Kotterdam. He is to arrive in Dominion City tomorrow in the afternoon, and will pay his respects to your Prime Minister as soon as possible.
Be assured that your own ambassador will be welcome. Your future embassy shall be located near the brand-new business district of Abu Gosh, our capital city.

Sincerely,
The Enlightened Doge of Siadr Jabari, Julius I.
Sidar Jabari
07-03-2004, 15:15
Official Telegram to Ate Drugs

Sidar Jabari is not interested in your drug cartels at all. Drugs are illegal, moreover, hardly anybody uses drugs in our country, thanks to efficient health policy. We are however fighting against any drug dealers or consumers.

For the Doge of Sidar Jabari,
the Steward Palatine, (OOC: Minister of the Interior and of Justice)
Karen Adlers
United Elias
07-03-2004, 15:23
The MInistry of Defence Procurement and Export is considering tenderign a bid. United Elias is an export producer in Aerospace, Marine and Land technologies and details of our products can be found here (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=74809). If you are interested in our products we will take the tiem to put forward an offer based around your current budget.