NationStates Jolt Archive

Today a large rally of people gathered outside the palace, asking for the deportation of athesists.

[i]"These people do not deserve to live on our beautiful god granted land! They are just as bad as the gays, and the extra tax against them isn't enough. Its time to make the land pure by sweeping these scum out of our nation and into some pitiful nation.[i/] says Jean Kimbro, the women who started this rally.

In over 100 years Telliria has managed to gain an outstanding amount of Christian followers, with over 98% of the population saying they are Christian. The other numbers are as follows:

Jew-.9%
Islamic-.8%
Varrious other Religions-.1%
No Religion-.05%
Athesist-.05%

However these numbers do not include the new state of Planith, which is still undergoing the changes that have come with joining the Tellirian Empire.

Even more tantilizing to deporting these people would be the gained bonus of bringing us closer to "Unification". In all of Tellirias history it has been trying to unify all the Chrisitan denominations. 60% of people consider themselves "unifed", however until it reaches 100% it will be just another denomination. The Athesist unions have done everything in their power to stop this, knowing that it would cause a great more Christian laws.

[i]"Why do I have to leave?! Just because I believe there is no god?? This makes no sense to me. Look at the rest of the world, they have accepted our views with open arms, surely they are not all wrong!"[i/]

The Emperor is supposed to have a decision soon enough. Deportation will begin immediatly, giving the Athesists 5 days to pack up and pick a location that will accept them. Thanks to the card system, all Athesists are known.

We will keep you updated.

Should the deportation go ahead, the Republic of Nimzonia will offer asylum to a limited number of Telliria's atheists.

Although Hazatak would support a harmless solution for all sides of this incident, we will keep our borders open for a limited number of deported atheists from Telliria, and they will be welcome in our country.

We'll accept as many of them as wish to come to our Socialist Paradise.

-V. Lenin III http://www.gamers-forums.com/smilies/contrib/xerx/happylenin.gif

Telliria annocenced today that these "unwanted people" will be deported. They will have to give their id cards back to the government. However police have began to mobilize to make sure that none escape into vast underground, filled with "unwanted people".

The Tellirian government will be giving 100,000 dollars to all the families being forced to leave, and 50,000 to any single or couple. They will be given the chance to go to any nation that they please. However it is expected that some will struggle or flee and cause problems later.

The Emperor thanks the people leaving for their willingness, and the outside nations for their cooperation.

Vahn Winfield
Emperor of Telliria
Grand Lord of Planith

We'll take 'em all.
Please 'deport' them to the Kelares-Islands.

ooc: I plan to make of them good loyal DSRO members... lol

The Republic of Fauquier strongly condemns this action. However, in order to help the now homeless minority, we are sending 5 of our transport ships, with a small marine guard attatched to secure everything, to your largest port or beach.

Proconsul Locke
Republic of Fauquier

There will be no acceptance of deportation by anyone.

Isla de Penguinata refuses to allow this to continue. While we are usually very peaceful in international situations, this is one of those exceptions. We are a very tolerant nation, and do not like to see intolerance on any basis. We are highly offended at the lack of acceptance by the Tellirian government, which should be an example for all nations. If this horrible act shall continue, Isla de Penguinata will not hestitate to respond in a very aggressive manner.

We offer Telliria 30 RL hours to make its decision, and then a naval fleet will be deployed in international waters off the coast of Telliria. If no response is met within that 30 RL hour time period, we will commence with the operation.

This is the first and last warning we will offer. We sincerely hope that you shall not have to be sorry, and hope that we will not have to be forced to resort to drastic measures to spread about the tolerance and acceptance of the minorities in this world.

>Ministry of Foreign Affairs<

There will be no acceptance of deportation by anyone.

Isla de Penguinata refuses to allow this to continue. While we are usually very peaceful in international situations, this is one of those exceptions. We are a very tolerant nation, and do not like to see intolerance on any basis. We are highly offended at the lack of acceptance by the Tellirian government, which should be an example for all nations. If this horrible act shall continue, Isla de Penguinata will not hestitate to respond in a very aggressive manner.

We offer Telliria 30 RL hours to make its decision, and then a naval fleet will be deployed in international waters off the coast of Telliria. If no response is met within that 30 RL hour time period, we will commence with the operation.

This is the first and last warning we will offer. We sincerely hope that you shall not have to be sorry, and hope that we will not have to be forced to resort to drastic measures to spread about the tolerance and acceptance of the minorities in this world.

>Ministry of Foreign Affairs<

Hear Hear! The Parliament of Hogsweat backs this action and will assist IDP Fleet.

We have prepared temporary accommodation to house up to 5000 Tellirian atheists, until suitable accommodation is found for them.

We await the Tellirian government's confirmation of how many deportees wish to begin a new life in Nimzonia, and if we shall be required to provide transportation. We assure potential immigrants that the Nimzonian government is officially atheistic, and that they will be exempt from compulsory military service.

Dr Erik Mennstein
Nimzonian Foreign Secretary.

Upon hearing of the deportation of all atheists from Telliria, a shocked President Wonka released this statement, "I am appalled at the actions of the Emperor of Telliria. To exile a group of people because of their beliefs? That is detestable. The Emperor has certainly not earned himself any brownie points with the civilized world with this action."

Afterwards, the government announced that it would extend its admittedly short resources to shelter as many refugees as it can.

On what grounds do the honourable people of the IDP believe they stand to threaten a blockade of Telliria? From our investigation the Athiests in that country have not been harmed in any way, rather they have been compensated and offered help in their departure of the area. With no violations of Security Of The Person, we can find no cause for any sactions. National Sovereignty compels us to note that the population controls in any given country are really not the business of any other country, with the exception of cases involving Human Rights Violations. As we understand it, the Athiests currently living in Telliria have not been violated in any measurable way.
Should the IDP continue this blockade, it will become necessary for Majamaland to cease trading with the IDP. The reason for this is that the IDP will have violated the sovereignty of nationhood, an illegal act ever since the signing of the Peace Of Westphalia (Some would even trace this precedent to the signing of the Magna Carta).
Naturally, Majamaland wishes for a peaceful resolution that will satisfy both the IDP and Telliria. We extend the "good graces of our office" to any parties desiring them. Thank you.

Emir Majama XIV.

All atheists that have been deported may come to Hattia.

The fragile, peace-loving, Atheist People's Republic of Upper Orwellia (formerly the Disputed Areas of Upper Orwellia) condemns this action and has closed all economic relations with Telliria. Furthermore we warmly welcome any displaced Atheists, and have set up a fund for the homeless and displaced.

We fully support the actions of IDP and an immediate export of the finest Orwellian Pizza is being dispatched to their civilian ports as a token of our infinite gratitude. Our only two ocean-going ships are being deployed to the coast of Telliria to await further orders.

We are reminded in this our of crisis and sorrow of the great words once spoken:
"God has no place within these walls, just like facts have no place within organised religion."

OOC: First of all, I don't trade with you in any way. We have never talked to each other about trading, so don't assume I trade with you.

Second, I never said anything about a blockade. I said I would send a naval fleet in international waters off the coast of Telliria. Perhaps I should have explained more thouroughly, but I have no intentions of blockading Telliria. I am only placing a fleet to impose my presence.

Now for the in-character part of my post...

IC:

The United Republic of Isla de Penguinata in no way intends to enforce a blockade or sanction against Telliria. Being that we have never enacted in trade directly with the nation, it would be a waste of time, effort, and money to sanction Telliria. The only intention of our nation is to threaten military force in the event that deportation continues.

All human beings have the right to live freely, especially in the country they were born. By violating this sacrosanct principle, Telliria is violating Human and Civil Rights, and Isla de Penguinata will not stand for such violations. We do not intend to halt any exit or entry into or out of the country. IdP only intends to make its powerful presence known.

If there are any increased objections to our position on this issue by other parties, especially with notable allies, we will definately consider retracting from our current stance to a more moderate one.

While you are not alone in your condemnation of the actions of Telliria, to go to war over the issue would be utterly absurd. The deportees are being compensated and allowed safe passage, and have no shortage of offers from countries wishing to provide them with a new home; there is simply no requirement for bloodshed. We hope you will reconsider, and refrain from military action in this instance.

Dr Erik Mennstein,
Nimzonian Foreign Secretary.

Though who do allow atheists in the Commonwealth of Auslandreich, we see no problem with such action.

We would be glad to receive your deportees - Much of our nation is agnostic or atheist.

While we understand Isla de Penguinata's intentions, we urge them to reconsider. A military conflict could bring about more harm than deporting the atheists. Perhaps it wold be possible to find an alternate solution that does not insolve a large amount of bombs and missiles.

"Must you anger the Scarlet Empire, Telliria? We suggest you stand down and submit to the demands made by Isla de Penguinata. Though we shall not be assisting them directly, we offer our moral support to the Penguinatan cause."
Matthew von Pickett
Minister for Foreign Affairs

In hopes of averting open conflict between the governments of Telliria and the Isla de Penguinata, The Free Land of Christian Stewardship offers its services as host and mediator in their current disagreement. We invite the wise leaders of your two great nations to explore alternatives before asking your peoples to take and shed blood.

We are emerging from a period of isolationism and realize that our culture and values may be little known to you. If you desire to know more of us prior to accepting our offer please let us know what we may share of ourselves.

Ermine Crane
Voice of the Free Lands

We will accept Atheists as long as they are willing to pay taxes to the Catholic Church.

The government of Octanus stands with the Tellirian decision to deport it's population of atheists. Octanus will not stand idly bye while the IDP is threatening the good people of Telliria. Octanus offers armed transport for the deported atheists. Octanus will not let the IDP’s threat go unchallenged. Octanus offers it’s military resources to protect Telliria. Octanus has been stockpiling it’s amount of stealth equipped aircraft and destroyers. We will proudly defend Telliria. The government of Octanus will gladly send its military resources to the waters of Telliria. Octanus asks the government of Telliria if we have permission to deter the threat of the IDP from the Int. waters off Telliria.

We do not wish war from such a trivial matter. However we will never let another country turn us from our decisions. The majority of Tellirian people see this as ok, and it is obviously not an act against human rights in Telliria.

We will attempt peace, however we do keep our stance on this issue.

About 350,000 people headed to ships today, picking their ships and future. Exonerate, Nimzonia, and Hattia seemed to be favorites, taking the majority of these people, while everyone else did recieve smaller numbers. But this is just hte first wave.

We grant Octanus permission to enter our waters, they will be greeted by an armed fleet (will post stats if neccissary.).

We have also confirmed that some 2,000 people have slipped through our fingers and have escaped.

Telliria is preparing to arm the first levy division, a group of civilians 30-35 years old, meaning they have recieved 18-23 years training. However we still want to avoid war. Invasion of Telliria will result in war with the whole region.

OOC: Math note- .05 percent of 1.492 billion is 74.5 million people, roughly (I stupidly closed Calculator before posting, so I might be off a few hundred thousand). Just FYI...that's a metric assload of people to move.

That having been said.....

IC:

The People's Republic of Kitsylvania is willing to receive all refugees under the ancient, but nonetheless still applicable Send Us The People You Don't Like™ Program. We have more than enough space and resources for all, and our transportation infrastructure is similarly more than capable of conveying the refugees to their new home.


-Kits(ylvania)
Ye Olde Post-Singularity Society
Confusing Nationstates users since November 2003!
This has been an IC/OOC post.

If you are in need, I can provide troops to make sure these Atheists do not revolt, and cause any problems.

Would you like these troops?

The Athesits revolting is not the problem, its them going underground until they gain enough weapons to be terrorists or an assassination attempt on the Emperor, something we fear the most. Still your troops would be well placed in our vassal state Planith. The athesists there might try something, and we don't need that at this moment. We will reimburse you in at least two years since we need the money to pay for all these people to leave. We may have to cut back on the military this year...

We recognize the cost of people, however we are also increasing the amount of refugees and people we can bring in per year.

I will send 500 of my troops to your country, and I ask you to contact me if there is any problem. I suspect that my commanders will be keeping me in contact, but either way, I am glad to help. If you need anything else, be sure to let me know.

-Matt Gaboury
President of Matterbug

Nimzonian Foreign office missive
Due to the number of immigrants wishing to enter Nimzonia, temporary accommodation for a further 25,000 people has been erected, using equipment belonging to the 3rd and 4th Territorial armies, providing accommodation for a total of 30,000 individuals. This is the maximum number of immigrants Nimzonia will be able to take on at present. We apologise to Atheists who had to be turned down at the docks.

Dr Erik Mennstein
Nimzonian Foreign Secretary.

Nimzonia Network News (NNN) broadcast
After the indignant international reaction to the Tellirian Atheist deportations, the Frigate RNS Stormcrow and four destroyers set sail for international waters today, to escort the passenger ships safely back to Nimzonian waters. Commodore Karl Hendriksson, commander of the squadron, told NNN, "It is our duty to see that these unfortunate disenfranchised individuals are provided safe passage to the Republic, and are not subjected to further mistreatment."

Across the Republic, citizens have been preparing a warm welcome for the deportees, donating generously to a fund supporting the mass immigration, and organising a welcoming party at Port Odea, where the ships are scheduled to be arriving.

I will open my borders to all the unwanted people of Telliria and they can come to my country as they wish to avoid the prejudice, war and poverty they face in their country.

The Drakonian Imperium was shocked to learn of the news of these events from it's long ally (Isla de Penguinata) and fellow Emirate. The Imperium is in total agreement with Isla de Penquinata on this and does not support the blatant denial of Basic Human Rights that Telliria has committed.

To that end the Imperium has issued a full Economic Sanction of Telliria. These sanctions include the entire multinational Greater Drakonian Economy (GDE), which includes approximately eleven nations (and some of the world's most economicly powerful nations, such as Menelmacar, Imperium itself, and others). As well, as the sanctions being placed the afforementioned nation, all assets of Telliria (anywhere in the nations of the GDE) will be frozen, until this issue is resolved. Finally, the Imperium (being one of the Leadership Council) has put forward the issue of the entire United Emirates alliance sanctioning Telliria, until the Basic Human Right of Freedom of Religion is granted to it's people.

It is advised that Telliria do what is right and resind these ludicious violations of Human Rights, immediately. Else, further actions may be considered.

Drakonian Diplomatic Corps.
located in Drako Throne,
capital of the Grand Dominion of Drakonian Imperium

Okay we are getting pretty pissed at having to repeat ourselves..

ITS NOT A HUMAN RIGHT IN TELLIRIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh an Atheisisim isn't a religion here, meaning its not in violation of freedom of reliong.

Also, we don't trade with those nations or any of you, so its not a problem.

Perhaps Telliria does not understand the power of the United Emirates and Menelmecar. We suggest you not underestimate such a powerful alliance and nation.

On another note, your crimes of deportation are an international issue, in which other countries are being forced by you to take atheists into their countries. It is a human rights violation by other nations, therefore your internal beliefs will not sway our decision. It is important for nations to not be plagued with needless refugees, as well as 75 million people to be able to live freely in a nation of their choice.

There are approximately five hours left before the 4th Offensive Naval Fleet makes it way to your coast. If deportation laws are not disbanded before then, we will move in swiftly. The Fleet is already prepared.

We encourage Telliria to understand the gravity of the situation. There are many allies of Isla de Penguinata, and especially the United Emirates, that will be helpful to our cause.

If we must eventually, we will blockade your nation. We have no intentions of attacking, however, and we will not be accused of having those intentions.

Heed our warning.

>Ministry of Foreign Affairs<

Okay we are getting pretty pissed at having to repeat ourselves..

ITS NOT A HUMAN RIGHT IN TELLIRIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh an Atheisisim isn't a religion here, meaning its not in violation of freedom of reliong.

Also, we don't trade with those nations or any of you, so its not a problem.

To the nation of Telliria,

The Crownguardian State, avowedly atheist, will accept any and all refugees from the nation of Telliria. We also request, nay, DEMAND, that observers be allowed into to make certain no human rights violations against YOUR OWN CITIZENS are being committed. We do not tolerate fundamentalist republics or any other type of Sky-pixie worshipping religious state from trampling on the rights of free thought. Failure to allow inspectors into the nation, as well as transcripts of all atheist citizens being forced to deport or go underground will constitute ipso facto a state of war between Crownguard and Telliria. You have been warned.

Honorably Yours,

Tercero Xavier Delryn

OOC: Note, its "atheism"

Nimzonian naval units will shortly be arriving to escort the immigrant ships back to the Republic.

We are satisfied that insufficient breaches of human rights have occurred to justify war. Though we deplore the system that has resulted in intolerance towards any minority, we commend the efforts of the Tellirian government to humanely deal with said unwanted minority, and compensate them where other governments would have simply had them imprisoned or executed. We suggest, to the bloodthirsty forces converging on Telliria, that they direct their efforts upon those kinds of government, rather than introducing violence to a situation where it will quite clearly do more harm than good.

We remind Isla de Penguinata and its allies, that any hostile action towards the Nimzonian squadron will be considered a declaration of war, and while your reasons for deploying against Telliria are tenuous at best, against us they are non-existant.

Dr Erik Mennstein
Nimzonian Foreign Secretary.

Telliria rushed 300,000 men to the coast to prepare for a naval invasion, while the Anti-Missle and Anti-Air systems crackled to life. This would be the first invasion. Already many nations from the region were pledging their support to Tellira, and the vassal state Planith prepared forced.

Inspectors will be allowed in, and we swear that you will find no wrong.

"My fellow Tellirians today we will arm oursleves and defend against a threat that should not be invading. We do things diffrently here, and they can't handle that! All males 25-35 report to your stations! Today we arm and go to war should it be neccissary!!!!!!"

*cheer*

"WE WILL NEVER GIVE IN, WE WILL NEVER SURRENDER!! THEY WILL NOT TAKE OUR NATION AND THEY WILL NOT STRIP US OF OUR BELIEFS!!!!"

*louder cheer*

"OUR RELIGION WILL DRIVE THESE FOOLS WHO ONLY SEE EVIL BACK TO THE HELLHOLD THEY CAM FROM! WE'LL PUSH THEM SO FAR BACK WE'LL TAKE THEIR LANDS!!!!!"

*deafining cheers*

*calm voice*"This is it my people...this is our moment to shine! We have prepared to make a stand for years, and now this is it..god will give us glory..we will not lose...we will fight for Telliria!!!!!!!!"

*crying and fantical screams erupt people are zealous all over Telliria*

And so beings the race for allies!

OOC:Yes figuredt hat out just like 6 hours ago..thank anyways though.

My nation does not pledge support to either side, as I think this is a war that can be avoided and is not needed.

Although, you may think people are given unfair rights, she has a different view. I think we can settle this peacefully.

- John Carter
Secretary of Defense

Telliria rushed 300,000 men to the coast to prepare for a naval invasion, while the Anti-Missle and Anti-Air systems crackled to life. This would be the first invasion. Already many nations from the region were pledging their support to Tellira, and the vassal state Planith prepared forced.

Inspectors will be allowed in, and we swear that you will find no wrong.

"My fellow Tellirians today we will arm oursleves and defend against a threat that should not be invading. We do things diffrently here, and they can't handle that! All males 25-35 report to your stations! Today we arm and go to war should it be neccissary!!!!!!"

*cheer*

"WE WILL NEVER GIVE IN, WE WILL NEVER SURRENDER!! THEY WILL NOT TAKE OUR NATION AND THEY WILL NOT STRIP US OF OUR BELIEFS!!!!"

*louder cheer*

"OUR RELIGION WILL DRIVE THESE FOOLS WHO ONLY SEE EVIL BACK TO THE HELLHOLD THEY CAM FROM! WE'LL PUSH THEM SO FAR BACK WE'LL TAKE THEIR LANDS!!!!!"

*deafining cheers*

*calm voice*"This is it my people...this is our moment to shine! We have prepared to make a stand for years, and now this is it..god will give us glory..we will not lose...we will fight for Telliria!!!!!!!!"

*crying and fantical screams erupt people are zealous all over Telliria*

And so beings the race for allies!

OOC:Yes figuredt hat out just like 6 hours ago..thank anyways though.

OOC:
He said that there would be war UNLESS you allow Crownguard to send inspectors to watch over the deportation,a nbd provide lists to be checked upon.

Hearing of the military build-up in the area and off shore, the Fauquierian marines hastened the refugees onto the ships. The refugee relief floatilla, consisting of 6 of the largest transports in the fleet, a dozen smaller military and civilian craft, and a small screening force of destroyers, had arrived in port a few days earlier and were now trying to keep up with the seemingless endless streams of the explelled. already 6,000 people had been loaded on, and still more. The checkpoints were nearly overwhelmed. To add to this massive surge of people was the news of A naval fleet off shore and the mobilization of Tellurian forces, which could threaten both the Fauquierian ships and the refugees. The pace was quickening.

The docks were littered with every imaginable object: Cars, furniture, personal belongings, everything. It was the debris of an exodus. To keep up with the flow of immigrants, 2 of the transports had left, and others were coming in to take their place. The government was considering sending naval ships and asking civilian craft owners to help out if the situation grew out of control. For now, all everyone could do is wait.

OOC: I said nothing. I did not say anything about invasion, so you might want to revise those posts a bit. Or do you not know the difference between naval movements and invasion? :roll:

IC:

The shocking war-hungry behavior exhibited by Terillia has been met with utmost ridicule by officials in Penguinatan government. After clearly explaining nearly three times, we expect others in the international community to understand.

Again, for the fourth time, the United Republic of Isla de Penguinata has no intentions to attack or invade Telliria. We are only placing a naval fleet, if they refuse to withdraw deportation laws, in international waters* off the coast of Telliria.

That is the only plan as of now. Developments may occur, but we assure Tellirians that there is no need to be hasty, worried, or prepared for a massive invasion. We are already engaged elsewhere, and could not possibly sacrifice more troops to a situation of less importance.

If any attack is made on our ships, however, fear should be the immediate consequence in all those who dare confront us.

>Ministry of Foreign Affairs<

*--If I am in international waters, it means that I have every right to be there. I cannot be attacked legally in international waters, and you would be the aggressor, legally, in that case.

bloody fascists!!!!!!!!

bloody fascists!!!!!!!!

OOC: Who? For all I know you could be talking about neighbors down the street.. :?