NationStates Jolt Archive


NWO dedication. No cold war.

imported_ViZion
04-03-2004, 09:07
DT, there is no war between NWO and GDODAD, or any other region or alliance. And, trust me... NWO will not fall... not while I am here... not while I am in it... And you should know that, DT.

Again, there is no war. No, not a cold war, even.

The NWO shall not disban, as some feel we should.

The NWO will come out on top, in peace and in war. For, the NWO is something unique. The NWO brings all types of beliefs and races together, putting aside their differences for a greater cause: To fight evil.

If you would like more convensing, please TG me, and we can talk.

DT, you know I will never let the NWO fall. Never. It will not fall. Period. You should know my dedication to this cause, this alliance, and my allies. My dedication is greater then any foe. The NWO's dedication is only stronger, and will get only stronger. The NWO shall be victorious in peace and war.

Again, if you are still not convenced, or have questions or comments, please feel free to TG me.

Chiefy,

Head of State of ViZion
Bedou
04-03-2004, 09:10
Define 'evil'.
imported_ViZion
04-03-2004, 09:19
Define 'evil'.
*sighs* Hmm, alright, since I've been asked this about 50,000 times in every thread and nearly all TG's I get, I'm going to post a thread tonight or tomorrow (depending on time avaliable...) that will define what the NWO considers evil.

But, a basic outline of what we view as evil is in the NWO's eyes:
Imperialism - Forcefully taking land and/or resources against another nations will
Terrorist and Supporters - Attacking unarmed civilians by a group of people, or military (if not in battle), or forces currently in your nation who are not oppressing you, and are helping your nation (I will get more indepth in the actual thread on this... this is just a basic outline); willingly giving these people or groups money, weapons, and a place to live.
Genocide - Killing unarmed people within your nation or another nation (again,will get into this more in other thread)
Torture of Civilians - Mental or fiscal beatdown on civilians
Will list other, smaller things in other thread
Erinin
04-03-2004, 09:22
One man's "terrorist" is anothers "freedom fighter".
imported_ViZion
04-03-2004, 09:24
One man's "terrorist" is anothers "freedom fighter".
Again, I will be defining it in the thread... but, please do enlighten us how you "free" people by killing the innocent, unarmed people, since you did bring that up.
Erinin
04-03-2004, 09:30
Then I reccomend that NWO first begin to make war on all those of european decent in north and south america as they are participants in an occupation that has been going on for over three hundred years.
Genocide both cultural and physical is almost complete, as indigenous peoples have almost totally wiped out.

Oh oH, wait, NWO only attacks nations it can easily slap around and has neither honor nor the strength of its convictions.

You may feel free to blather about 'evil' but everyone knows it is just symantecs and you are enforcing your own imperialism.
04-03-2004, 09:32
Erinin, please refrain from expressing your Mentally Restrained Points-of-View, for we have no intrest in currupt talk.

Thank you.
Bedou
04-03-2004, 09:34
Bedou wishes to be clear.
Vizion offered (in a very round about way) to aid us with any trouble when we publically denounced terroist activities as non-muslim practices and that muslims who were commiting these acts were not following Allah's law.
Merely to be fair we believe 'evil' should be defined.
OUr Quran has an answer for everything, all is defined if one chooses to look.
So we would like Vizion to do the same for its war on 'evil'.
It is not (yet) Bedou's assurtion that Vizion or the NWO is imperialistic.
Zvarinograd
04-03-2004, 09:34
You have an outdated idea of what imperialism is. Imperialism nowadays exists in the form of colonial mentality. Colonial mentality is the idea that makes people think that everything from a particular nation is better then their own nation's, causing massive cultural shifts and crushing entire economies into third world status. I, personally, would like to see what measures you would take to stop such imperialism.

Premier Alexey Zvarinsky
United Communist States of Zvarinograd
Roania
04-03-2004, 09:37
Hmmm...

by every standard except that of 'terrorism', Roania could be considered evil. While we aren't a member of GDODAD, or any other 'evil' alliance, I will take it as a given that I'll be speaking for them as well when I say, "Kindly mind your own business."

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Prime Minister Harold Cartwright
I am the Lord High... what? Um... er...
The Most Holy Principality of Roania
Erinin
04-03-2004, 09:43
You have an outdated idea of what imperialism is. Imperialism nowadays exists in the form of colonial mentality. Colonial mentality is the idea that makes people think that everything from a particular nation is better then their own nation's, causing massive cultural shifts and crushing entire economies into third world status. I, personally, would like to see what measures you would take to stop such imperialism.

Premier Alexey Zvarinsky
United Communist States of Zvarinograd
Colonialism, where do you think that term comes from?
Brittish Colonial Imperialism is where, ex. India, North America, Africa, Hong Kong, Ireland, etc...etc... so no my definition is not dated it is perfectly correct you even use the terminology.

Erinin, please refrain from expressing your Mentally Restrained Points-of-View, for we have no intrest in currupt talk.

Thank you.
First, so you want unrestrained points of view?
Second, you can re-type that whole thing in english.
Thank you.
Roania
04-03-2004, 09:46
Erinin, in english, what the silly liberals said was, quite simply, "Go away."

Personally, I prefer to say things like that with a beating and then firing the offender from a cannon.

But, each their own.

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Minister for Internal Affairs, Lord Baron Ivan Merkenoff
Into the night and fog with them.
The Most Holy Principality of Roania
Credonia
04-03-2004, 09:50
tag
Erinin
04-03-2004, 09:51
Erinin, in english, what the silly liberals said was, quite simply, "Go away."

Personally, I prefer to say things like that with a beating and then firing the offender from a cannon.

But, each their own.

http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0RQBEA1EVifL2psrFHMS6YrXXyS48!8eBFXRt7OQ6mZGXzJKNnHejqBds0qNTxftULEYE9PNTFgWtN2q4YDNwwk2ykgolJqm1w06 hHEsq30w/Ivan.jpg?dc=4675460713257146699
Minister for Internal Affairs, Lord Baron Ivan Merkenoff
Into the night and fog with them.
The Most Holy Principality of Roania
:mrgreen: I know :mrgreen:
I just had genuine doubts he could say it, without false verbosity.
Zvarinograd
04-03-2004, 10:32
You have an outdated idea of what imperialism is. Imperialism nowadays exists in the form of colonial mentality. Colonial mentality is the idea that makes people think that everything from a particular nation is better then their own nation's, causing massive cultural shifts and crushing entire economies into third world status. I, personally, would like to see what measures you would take to stop such imperialism.

Premier Alexey Zvarinsky
United Communist States of Zvarinograd
Colonialism, where do you think that term comes from?
Brittish Colonial Imperialism is where, ex. India, North America, Africa, Hong Kong, Ireland, etc...etc... so no my definition is not dated it is perfectly correct you even use the terminology.

OOC:
Good. Only one problem, I was talking to ViZion. :P
Dyelli Beybi
04-03-2004, 10:41
Define 'evil'.
*sighs* Hmm, alright, since I've been asked this about 50,000 times in every thread and nearly all TG's I get, I'm going to post a thread tonight or tomorrow (depending on time avaliable...) that will define what the NWO considers evil.

But, a basic outline of what we view as evil is in the NWO's eyes:
Imperialism - Forcefully taking land and/or resources against another nations will
Terrorist and Supporters - Attacking unarmed civilians by a group of people, or military (if not in battle), or forces currently in your nation who are not oppressing you, and are helping your nation (I will get more indepth in the actual thread on this... this is just a basic outline); willingly giving these people or groups money, weapons, and a place to live.
Genocide - Killing unarmed people within your nation or another nation (again,will get into this more in other thread)
Torture of Civilians - Mental or fiscal beatdown on civilians
Will list other, smaller things in other thread

OOC: It's amazing. Dyelli Beybi is guilty of all of that, but nobody ever does anything. I think it's because we don't do any of the really crazy excesses, like feeding people to rabid wolves.
04-03-2004, 10:46
:lol: ....really? In Jagiellonia, feeding people to wolves is a national passtime....