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SAH-17 New Generation Attack Helicopter for sale

Soviet Bloc
04-03-2004, 05:50
SAH-17 Future Attack Helicopter
http://www.milparade.com/2000/40a/01_02_01.jpg
*Caption- Test platform shown without the cannon mounted on the nose. Also, this test platform has the wing pylons attached. Otherwise, the weapons bays are located behind the pylon.



The SAH-17 was built completely from scratch using a brand new frame layout. Numerous improvements were made over the SAH-04 series attack helicopter, including more efficient rotors, more efficient engines, and a more efficient layout.

Other improvements include:

Next generation avionics

SB-AEAS- Advanced Exhaust Assist System

SB-AVTVH- Advanced Vectored Thrust, Version Helicopter- Vectored thrust capability allows SAH-17 to execute advanced maneuvers and make quicker movements.

SB-AAHCS- Advanced Autonomous Helicopter Control System- In the event the pilot and WSO are killed or incapacitated, this feauture can be activated manually or automatically (in event of pilot and WSO death) to automatically pilot the helicopter. Granted, this 'robotic' helicopter is not quite as effecient or deadly as a human-piloted one, but if it weren't for this system the helicopter would be lying in pieces on the ground, so, in the end, this 'robotic' helicopter could prove useful. When this feuture is activated, the helicopter will continue on entered waypoints, track and engage enemy targets, and destroy objectives along a pre-entered waypoint path. If crews of multiple helicopters are killed but the helicopters are still in operating condition, this system automatically communicates with the other helicopters, trade target information, and set up attack plans. If a commanding officer does not want these pilot-less helicopters to engage targets on their own, they can be configured to return to the home airfield, preventing large amounts of time and money being spent on purchasing new helicopters, searching for crew members, cleaning up the pieces, and defending the crash site. Also, when configured, the helicopter with this feature can be operated by a crew that is at the home base, becoming an Unmanned Aerial Combat Vehicle of sorts.


Updated ALMRS/TTAC-03 version- ALMRS-TTAC-17 Mk. III


Advanced No Tail Rotor System
The Soviet Bloc NTR system is composed of a tail-rotor-less rear tail assembly and twin main rotors, each spinning in opposite directions, meaning no tail rotor is needed to counter-act the torque produced by the main rotors.

Advanced Vectored-thrust System
The rear tail section of the craft is completely hollow except a reinforced, high-grade aluminum tube assemble. On the end closest to the helicopter's main body is another reinforced tube that leads up to the engine and the exhaust outlets. With this, a special system accelerates the already fast-moving exhaust fumes and heat down through the tube and to another system that accelerates it even more. All along the tail assembly are exhaust ports with sliding 'shutters' that can open or close depending on the pilot controls. When the helicopter is flying straight or up or down, the exhaust flows through the tail and out a port at the very end of the tail, where it meets a cooling system to cool the exhaust and dissipate it out the rear, also providing a small amount of forward thrust. When the pilot wishes to bank or turn, a fast-processing computer determines which shutters should be closed and which to be opened. So lets say the pilot wishes to turn hard right. The computer then determines that all vents on the left, top, and bottom of the tail should be closed and all vents on the right should be opened, and nearly instantly, this is accomplished and the helicopter turns hard right faster than a normal helicopter due to this assistance. Also, if the pilot needs to descend rapidly, when the appropriate actions are done to descent, the computer determines all vents on the right, left, and top of the tail should be closed and the bottom open, shooting the tail up and allowing for a quick, precise descent. Also, the main jet ports (where most exhaust is let out to provide thrust) are equipped with vectored thrust capabilities, allowing for quick and precise maneuvers.





The SAH-17 is capable to engage:

Ground units (Armor, infantry, enemy positions and fortifications)
Naval ships
Submarines (with proper equipment)
Enemy aircraft (low altitude and helicopters)




Enhanched combat survivability functions include:

Shielding of vital components by less important ones with armour composite plates in between and on outer shell;
Main and tail rotors blades are made of super-strong composites free from secondary destruction effect;
Back-up emergency hydrualics systems stored deep within the SAH-17 to allow it to still function properly if main hydraulics fails;
Armoured pilot's cockpit is fitted with ceramic armoured fuselage, bullet-proof windshields and armoured partition between crew members;
Self-sealing polyurethane foam-filled fuel tanks with enhanced composite armor protection;
Fuel system outfitted to deny any explosions, along with re-route systems to re-route fuel flow if the onboard computer deems it safe to.


The SAH-17 is outfitted with enhanced survivability functions with a dampening zone in front of pilot that can crush inwards in event of a controlled crash and can increase survivability in an unplanned crash. Enhanced frame design also improves survivability.

The SAH-17 is equipped with dual SB-AFEHTHHP-HE4 that can momentarily extend compression and strain variables to allow for extreme maneuvers.


Stealthy
The SAH-17 was also built with stealth in mind. It was built with radar-absorbant materials and with a design that would limit its radar-signature. Its weapons bays are internal (except the add-on pylons). The craft was also built with heat-dissipating materials to lower its heat signature by almost 60%.

Also for survivability:
Infrared signature suppressors on engine manifold, exhuast ports ;
Radar warning receivers, advanced anti-missile equipment, rotor brakes, chaff&flares, IFF, infrared jammers ;
Blades and blade housing has been strengthened and reinforced to increase survivability.

SB-AHES/RES- Advanced Helicopter Ejection Seat/ Rotor Ejection System- In the event of a critical hit on the helicopter, the pilots can activate their ejection seats, which will signal the turbine to shut down, the rotor shaft to lock up at a certain point and eject the rotors down and away from the helicopter, leaving a clear path of exit for the ejection seats. After the rotors are ejected, the cockpits are blown off by explosive charges and the ejection seats are fired. The entire process takes roughly 3 seconds.

SB-AAHCS- Advanced Autonomous Helicopter Control System- In the event the pilot and WSO are killed or incapacitated, this feauture can be activated manually or automatically (in event of pilot and WSO death) to automatically pilot the helicopter. Granted, this 'robotic' helicopter is not quite as effecient or deadly as a human-piloted one, but if it weren't for this system the helicopter would be lying in pieces on the ground, so, in the end, this 'robotic' helicopter could prove useful. When this feuture is activated, the helicopter will continue on entered waypoints, track and engage enemy targets, and destroy objectives along a pre-entered waypoint path. If crews of multiple helicopters are killed but the helicopters are still in operating condition, this system automatically communicates with the other helicopters, trade target information, and set up attack plans. If a commanding officer does not want these pilot-less helicopters to engage targets on their own, they can be configured to return to the home airfield, preventing large amounts of time and money being spent on purchasing new helicopters, searching for crew members, cleaning up the pieces, and defending the crash site. Also, when configured, the helicopter with this feature can be operated by a crew that is at the home base, becoming an Unmanned Aerial Combat Vehicle of sorts.

Armament:


Hardpoints: The SAH-17 has four internal bays. One on each side of the aircraft and two on the underside. Each side bay has the ability to hold up to six medium-sized missiles (such as Hellfires or our own ATM-15A anti-tank missiles). Each bottom bay can hold up to 6 medium missiles or sensors suite. All side bays are covered by pneumatic, recessing panels. Also, two studs are located on each side about midsection, covered by access panels that allow the attachment of a weapons pylon, doubling the possible weapons loadout but also reducing speed and stealth ability. When a missile is selected to fire from one of the side bays, as soon as the button is depressed, the pneumatic doors are instantly recessed into the helicopter's body (unless they were already opened) and a sharp blast of compressed air is let out on the missile (after locks have disengaged) that shoots the missile out into the sky, fast enough to clear the helicopter and to a distance of about 30 yards, where the missile's rocket motor will engage.

Cannon : Located under nose on the under-nose hardpoint, outfitted for the S55-QB 12.7mm 4-barrel Chaingun or S55-QC 23mm triple-barrel cannon layouts. Cannon system can be removed depending on buyer's requirements.





Systems:
ALMRS/TTAC-17 Mk. III (new model) system: Tracks up to 310 enemies and ranks them according to range, heading, threat level, and unit-type to provide best possible firing solution. Tracks their range and heading at ranges up to 245 km. Can fire on up to 10 enemy units simultaneously. This system utilizes a millimetric wave radar, IIR, thermal. The fire control radar incorporates an integrated radar frequency interferometer for passive location and identification of radar emitting threats. An advantage of millimetre wave is that it performs under poor visibility conditions and is less sensitive to ground clutter. The short wavelength allows a very narrow beamwidth which is resistant to countermeasures.

ARENA Mk. III: Scrambles enemy ATGM's radars and tracking systems. Also disables enemy jamming systems on missiles and aircraft, interferes with enemy radar and interferes with enemy tracking systems.

AEISCN-02: Shares target information with other friendly units in the field along with other information, also allows friendly units in large numbers to make coordinated attacks through out the battlefield. Also allows friendly units to instantly reorganize into new squadrons and divisions for new assaults and also relays all information back to command. This system also checks in every 2 minutes (or shorter/longer; can be adjusted) with GPS and military satellites to update terrain and enemy movements. Also tracks and labels targets and sends their coordinates and readings through satellites and ground antennae to control centers, ground forces, air forces, and naval forces.

SB-ACDAMS-02: Anti-missile and countermeasure deployment system. Automatically launches countermeasures and scrambles enemy radar as well as providing the pilot with paths that provide a chance to out-maneauver the missile (not likely). If feature is engaged, when a certain missile threat level is detected (set in by pilot or CO) the helicopter can act on its own to effectively out-maneuver the missile through maneuvers a normal human could not even think of. Downside of this feature: May cause blackout of pilot due to excessive G-forces, if the pilot is found to be unconscious, the helicopter will act on its own until the pilot regains consciousness by heading for a friendly area and by engaging threatening targets.

AHUD-8CA: Advanced Heads-Up Display, displays all information about enemy unit including possible routes. Provides direct fire scenarios and target areas. Can be configured to cover entire window-area of cockpit. This system also utilizes the visor on the pilot/WSO's helmet. Using this, it can display all information on the pilot and WSO's helmet visors. The system also tracks the WSO's retina or head movements to move the mounted gun. To fire cannon, buttons are located on the pilot's collective and the WSO's weapon joysticks.

SB-AFCS/OG- Advanced Flight Control Systems, Optical Guided- Advanced system that uses high-intensity fiber optics for flight controls, allowing quicker, more effecient maneuvering and decreasing the weight by removing heavy copper and gold wiring.
SB-AEAS- Advanced Exhaust Assist System
SB-AVTVH- Advanced Vectored Thrust, Version Helicopter- Vectored thrust capability allows SAH-04 to execute advanced maneuvers and make quicker movements.

FLIR, Laser Designator



NAVAL Version
The Naval version of the SAH-17, the SAH-17N, is a slighlty modified helicopter with numerous new features. Survivabilty functions include a system to prevent moisture from penetrating into the engine assembly or air intakes, therefore possibly compromising the helicopter. The SAH-17N is also outfitted with a slightly different weapon's bay, allowing for the larger anti-ship missiles to be installed. The SAH-17N has a slightly more reinforced frame to withstand the roughness of naval conditions and being stored on a rocking, moving ship. The fire control computer for the SAH-17N is also slightly modified, adding a new anti-ship capability to target and engage ships. The fire control system is also updated to allow for ASW duties. The SAH-17N can carry three torpedoes (using the strengthened/heavily-reinforced pylons [each can carry one] and then hooking one up underneath. The SAH-17N can also carry depth charges, up to three on the under-body hardpoint).





BASE SPECIFICATIONS:


Number x Power, rated horsepower.
New SB-NGHTS-AAS-17AD Turbines

2 x 2,950

Vertical Climb Rate - 44 m/s

Flight speed (at rated altitude: 1200 ft), mph:


Maximum speed - 231 mph

cruise - 208 mph


Hovering ceiling, feet
14,100 feet

Service ceiling , feet
18,800 feet


Range:
Full fuel and armament: 450 miles (in ideal conditions)


DIMENSIONS (w/o rotors), feet:


Length- 53 feet

Width- 13 feet

Height-15 feet

Main rotor diameter- 48 feet


Crew- 2 (pilot, WSO [Weapons Service Officer])

VERSIONS:

Standard- (Shown above)

Naval- Outfitted for maritime use and landings on naval vessels, strengthened pylons for ASW equipment and torpedoes/Anti-ship missiles, SB-AASW Suite (ASW Suite).

COSTS:
Cost: $18.1 million USD
Cost (ASW/Naval version)- $18.3 million USD
*Questions? Comments? Censure?*
*It IS NOT a Ka-50/52 clone, variant, and what not. Its just that that picture fits what this helicopter looks like and also because I couldn't find any really good ones... Dammit.*
04-03-2004, 06:04
The Republic of Ghanana requests to buy the 2 SAH-17 to help enforce the small, but growing army of the country.
04-03-2004, 06:04
The Republic of Ghanana requests to buy 2 SAH-17 to help enforce the small, but growing army of the country.
Soviet Bloc
04-03-2004, 06:06
Order confirmed. Units will be shipped immediately.
Bryanoptia
05-03-2004, 03:03
Bryanoptia
05-03-2004, 03:05
Bryanoptia would like 10 to help train their soldiers.
The Zoogie People
05-03-2004, 03:20
We are both rejoicing and weeping. Rejoicing because such a wonderful helicopter has been released - a helicopter to fill all our attack helicopter needs to replace the AH-64.

Weeping, because our own heavy attack helo program just went right out the window. Only the joint program with LRR exists.

The Zoogie People would be interested in acquiring 800 of both versions - $29.28 billion wired.
Magas Volaer
05-03-2004, 03:44
The Federation of Magas Volaer is interested in 15 of these extremely intriguing aircraft.

10 Standard versions for $181 million.

5 Naval versions for $91.5 million.

Total: $272.5 million

Amount to be wired upon confirmation.

:Quaestor Saryn Sarethi
Soviet Bloc
05-03-2004, 04:17
Both orders confirmed. Thank you both for the orders.
05-03-2004, 04:18
we require 24 of these aircraft in the standard version, as our helicopters are saddly falling behind. we still equip our Army with the outdated AH-1 Cobra without many of the latest upgrades.
Bryanoptia
05-03-2004, 04:20
the growing republic Bryanoptia will take ten of the stantard versions to help train their soldiers for 181 million *money wired*
Anarresa
05-03-2004, 04:26
OOC: This is one of the best helos i've ever seen
Anarresa would like 65 Standard versions and 20 Naval versions.

That toatals at:

1,176,500,000 for 65 Standard
and
366,000,000 for 20 Naval

1,542,500,000 Total
(One Billion, Five Hundred Fourty-Two Million, Five Hundred Thousand USD)

Anarresan Minister of Defence
Alan Schezar
Anarresa
05-03-2004, 04:26
OOC: This is one of the best helos i've ever seen
Anarresa would like 65 Standard versions and 20 Naval versions.

That toatals at:

1,176,500,000 for 65 Standard
and
366,000,000 for 20 Naval

1,542,500,000 Total
(One Billion, Five Hundred Fourty-Two Million, Five Hundred Thousand USD)

Anarresan Minister of Defence
Alan Schezar
Soviet Bloc
05-03-2004, 04:32
OOC- Thank you, thank you.

All orders confirmed.

Bryantopia- All 10 units will be sent immediately from our current stockpile.

Angyang- Confirmed. Units will be shipped immediately from our current stockpile.

Anaressa- Units will be built and shipped over the next 6 NS Months.
Soviet Bloc
05-03-2004, 04:32
OOC- Thank you, thank you.

All orders confirmed.

Bryanoptia- All 10 units will be sent immediately from our current stockpile.

Angyang- Confirmed. Units will be shipped immediately from our current stockpile.

Anaressa- Units will be built and shipped over the next 6 NS Months.
05-03-2004, 04:35
OOC- Thank you, thank you.

All orders confirmed.

Bryanoptia- All 10 units will be sent immediately from our current stockpile.

Angyang- Confirmed. Units will be shipped immediately from our current stockpile.

Anaressa- Units will be built and shipped over the next 6 NS Months.

Money wired
Harvanis
05-03-2004, 05:03
Harvanis would like 20 standard and 10 naval please.


362 Million + 183 Million = 545 Million USD wired
Soviet Bloc
05-03-2004, 05:08
Order Confirmed. Units will be built and shipped over the next 3 NS Months.
Soviet Bloc
06-03-2004, 06:10
Bump.
06-03-2004, 07:24
This looks like a great helicopter, we'd like to order 576 for the time being, for 10,425,600,000. We might purchase more depending on its performance on the field.
Soviet Bloc
06-03-2004, 07:30
Very well, order confirmed. We thank you for your purchase.
Soviet Bloc
07-03-2004, 04:41
Bump.
Soviet Bloc
08-03-2004, 04:31
Bump.
Soviet Bloc
08-03-2004, 19:26
Bump.
Soviet Bloc
12-03-2004, 04:15
Bump.
North Germania
12-03-2004, 11:18
Brilliant design.

We in North Germania would like 300 of the regular version. Money wired.
12-03-2004, 11:57
i am interested in these craft to add to may vast collection of assult helicopters, but i am concerned that you failed to mention any amunition that i will need, please give me specs of the weaponary of this craft
Soviet Bloc
12-03-2004, 21:12
Both orders confirmed. Units will be produced and shipped as soon as possible.
Soviet Bloc
12-03-2004, 21:14
Both orders confirmed. Units will be produced and shipped as soon as possible.
Soviet Bloc
12-03-2004, 21:15
Both orders confirmed. Units will be produced and shipped as soon as possible.
Soviet Bloc
13-03-2004, 05:58
Bump.
Soviet Bloc
13-03-2004, 22:27
Bump.
Doujin
13-03-2004, 22:52
Soviet Bloc, my friend, consider selling production rights to Doujinshi Corporation? Any ammount, we will pay..

In the meantime, 1200 Naval versions please..
Soviet Bloc
13-03-2004, 23:03
Soviet Bloc
15-03-2004, 03:46
Bump.
Soviet Bloc
15-03-2004, 03:48
Oops, didn't see that one, order confirmed Doujin and we will sell you production rights.
Soviet Bloc
15-03-2004, 04:40
Alright, special promotion. If you order now, and your order is greater than 100 helicopters, we will provide a life-time (however long your SAH-17 fleet is in service) supply of ATM-15B advanced anti-tank/multi-purpose missiles.
Soviet Bloc
15-03-2004, 21:15
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=126094&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

Above link is to the ATM-15B thread which shows a picture, specifications, and notes on the missile for the above-mentioned promotion.


*bump*
Soviet Bloc
15-03-2004, 21:16
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=126094&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

Above link is to the ATM-15B thread which shows a picture, specifications, and notes on the missile for the above-mentioned promotion.


*bump*
Soviet Bloc
17-03-2004, 04:44
Bump.
Soviet Bloc
22-03-2004, 06:24
Bump.
Soviet Bloc
22-03-2004, 06:26
Bump.
Soviet Bloc
22-03-2004, 06:27
Bump.
Soviet Bloc
01-04-2004, 04:30
Bump.
Soviet Bloc
12-04-2004, 06:52
Bump.
Soviet Bloc
27-04-2004, 04:23
Massive bump.