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Emergency notice

Whittier
03-03-2004, 16:31
The Whittier Intelligence Agency has discovered the large nation of _Harrapa_ getting ready for war and massing troops along its border for no apparent reason.
I have telegramed _Harrapa_ to ask the cause of their mobilization and was told to f off.
He tged me with some gibberish about india, central asia, and the mid east are provinces of his country and he has the right to take them back.
Whittier is quickly exhausting diplomatic resources and he has not responded to further inquiries.
Whittier requests assistance in preventing a major asian wide war that could cover the continent from the mid east, to Russia, to Japan, to Indonesia.
I am not able to determine whehter his moves are defensive due to world events or if he has ambitions on other states' territories.
Those of you who border Harrapa might want to start beefing up your military defenses.
Whittier
03-03-2004, 16:33
New TG recieved from _Harrapa_:
I will get what I want or I will turn Asia into a nuclear wasteland.

Definate proof of hostile intent.
BTW, its also on his nation's profile.
03-03-2004, 16:38
Yeah...I read that.
Preparing for war.
Asia, you say? Why Asia?
Did _Harrapa_ give any reasons, or just the "F**K off"?
_Harrapa_
03-03-2004, 16:39
The Whittier Intelligence Agency has discovered the large nation of _Harrapa_ getting ready for war and massing troops along its border for no apparent reason.
I have telegramed _Harrapa_ to ask the cause of their mobilization and was told to f off.
He tged me with some gibberish about india, central asia, and the mid east are provinces of his country and he has the right to take them back.
Whittier is quickly exhausting diplomatic resources and he has not responded to further inquiries.
Whittier requests assistance in preventing a major asian wide war that could cover the continent from the mid east, to Russia, to Japan, to Indonesia.
I am not able to determine whehter his moves are defensive due to world events or if he has ambitions on other states' territories.
Those of you who border Harrapa might want to start beefing up your military defenses.

I told you to F off.
India, Pakistan, Iran, Afghanistan, Russia, Iraq, Kuwait, Saudi, Central Asia, China, Japan, Burma all belong to me. And I am going to reclaim them and add the rest of the Mideast and all of SE asia to my domain.
I will use my nukes against you if try to stop me from reclaiming my lands.
Phoenixius
03-03-2004, 16:46
First: How can you have nukes? Especially in any quantity? You are a new nation, and do not possess the resources for this.
Second: Whats you reason for 'reclaiming'. Just saying they belong to you is pointless.
Free Pacific States
03-03-2004, 16:47
People people, calm down, please. Nukes are not the answer, and will only cause mass destruction. From both the other side and others. If your going to war, keep it non-nuclear, trust me, it's not worth it.
03-03-2004, 16:53
I told you to F off.
India, Pakistan, Iran, Afghanistan, Russia, Iraq, Kuwait, Saudi, Central Asia, China, Japan, Burma all belong to me. And I am going to reclaim them and add the rest of the Mideast and all of SE asia to my domain.
I will use my nukes against you if try to stop me from reclaiming my lands.

Whoah! That's quite a large chunk of land you're staking a claim to there, pal! :lol:
Firstly: reclaiming? As far as I know, these cultures have ages-old histories and people who "own" these countries long before you ever laid claim.
Secondly, if you tried to take India and Pakistan, BOTH would put aside their own petty, ages-old glorified pissing contest and tear you a nuclear new-one!
Thirdly, most of the countries you list would be quick to note quite powerful allies and, if you tried to claim them, they'd hit you like a McMEGATONNE of bricks.
And finally, yeah, the aforementioned new nation thing.
03-03-2004, 17:15
Using a nuke without first going through something of a thought process or an attempt at a takeover by conventional means is moronic. I also find it hard to believe that you own all of those territories. Let me go look at Chellis' thread(the authority on this matter) and see.
03-03-2004, 17:24
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=88658&highlight=

Yes, you actually aren't credited to owning any of those territories. In fact, you will likely find other nations owning them.
03-03-2004, 17:24
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=88658&highlight=

Yes, you actually aren't credited to owning any of those territories. In fact, you will likely find other nations owning them.
Aust
03-03-2004, 17:43
OCC:You can't own their, because hundreds of other nations will say they own it, real-life places don't really exist i8n NS, if they did I'd lay claim to England but so would hundreds of other nations.

IC; Due to _Harrapa_blind stupidty and odvious cotempt for diplomacy Aust declares it's support for Whittier any conflict and Aust will stand by your sidde.
_Harrapa_
04-03-2004, 03:19
First: How can you have nukes? Especially in any quantity? You are a new nation, and do not possess the resources for this.
Second: Whats you reason for 'reclaiming'. Just saying they belong to you is pointless.Who you calling new nation?
I was created on April 2003, you were created Feb 2004.
That is more than long enough to have plenty of nukes to nuke your tiny nation ten times over.
_Harrapa_
04-03-2004, 03:21
First: How can you have nukes? Especially in any quantity? You are a new nation, and do not possess the resources for this.
Second: Whats you reason for 'reclaiming'. Just saying they belong to you is pointless.Who you calling new nation?
I was created on April 2003, you were created Feb 2004.
That is more than long enough to have plenty of nukes to nuke your tiny nation ten times over.
_Harrapa_
04-03-2004, 03:25
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=88658&highlight=

Yes, you actually aren't credited to owning any of those territories. In fact, you will likely find other nations owning them.
I don't recongnize that thread. There are thousands of nations that claim the same areas of RL Earth. Just cause they ain't listed on that thread doesn't mean they don't own those areas.
The fact is, I have seen several threads claiming to show who owned what on RL Earth.
It's for the thread's authors to work out with the nations they are rping with, not some other thread posted by some other nation.
And you are no authority either.
_Harrapa_
04-03-2004, 03:26
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=88658&highlight=

Yes, you actually aren't credited to owning any of those territories. In fact, you will likely find other nations owning them.
I don't recongnize that thread. There are thousands of nations that claim the same areas of RL Earth. Just cause they ain't listed on that thread doesn't mean they don't own those areas.
The fact is, I have seen several threads claiming to show who owned what on RL Earth.
It's for the thread's authors to work out with the nations they are rping with, not some other thread posted by some other nation.
And you are no authority either.
_Harrapa_
04-03-2004, 03:27
I told you to F off.
India, Pakistan, Iran, Afghanistan, Russia, Iraq, Kuwait, Saudi, Central Asia, China, Japan, Burma all belong to me. And I am going to reclaim them and add the rest of the Mideast and all of SE asia to my domain.
I will use my nukes against you if try to stop me from reclaiming my lands.

Whoah! That's quite a large chunk of land you're staking a claim to there, pal! :lol:
Firstly: reclaiming? As far as I know, these cultures have ages-old histories and people who "own" these countries long before you ever laid claim.
Secondly, if you tried to take India and Pakistan, BOTH would put aside their own petty, ages-old glorified pissing contest and tear you a nuclear new-one!
Thirdly, most of the countries you list would be quick to note quite powerful allies and, if you tried to claim them, they'd hit you like a McMEGATONNE of bricks.
And finally, yeah, the aforementioned new nation thing.

I am located in Pakistan.
Valient
04-03-2004, 03:29
Why do you only have 27 posts?

Do you RP a lot? I understand that you are not a noob, but your actions are, you must understand and admit, are noobish...
Trailers
04-03-2004, 03:30
_Harrapa_,no longer how large you are you could not possibly be capable of waging war on all of these claimed nations.Many stronger than you twice over would step in.It is not plausible.I would suggest backing down before things get too hairy.
_Harrapa_
04-03-2004, 03:35
Why do you only have 27 posts?

Do you RP a lot? I understand that you are not a noob, but your actions are, you must understand and admit, are noobish...
OOC: Ever heard of Alexander the Great, Napaleon, Hitler, etc.
They all claimed the entire Eurasian continent. Not to mention Bush's claim that he owns the world. The govt. of Harrapa is based on such leaders.
If you don't want to rp it then don't. Just stop messing with other people's rp. It is not for you or any one else to bust into someone else's thread and impose what you want on them.
In his opening post, Whittier said I have nukes. That means he accepts that I have nukes. Therefore, for this rp, I do have nukes.
Especially on this thread cause the creator said I had them.
_Harrapa_
04-03-2004, 03:38
_Harrapa_,no longer how large you are you could not possibly be capable of waging war on all of these claimed nations.Many stronger than you twice over would step in.It is not plausible.I would suggest backing down before things get too hairy.

OOC: Of course Harrapa couldn't win such a war, the point here is that they will try cause Harrapa has a megalamaniacal govt. (Which of course, is not exactly known for rational decisions, just as terrorists have never been known to be rational though some people here insist that terrorists be rpd as if they were rational.)

IC: Harrapa wishes to ask for respect of its territorial soverignty over Asia.
Ancient and Holy Terra
04-03-2004, 03:39
The Republic of Ancient Terra pledges their support for Whittier, if push comes to shove. We advise _Harrapa_ to back down from this disasterous course, before it leads to dire consequences. If Whittier asks us to, we will begin mobilization of our armed forces.

~Emperor El' Jonson, Leader of Ancient Terra~
~Talus Karn, Prime Minister of Ancient Terra~
~Lord Admiral Yamato Ishida, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs~
04-03-2004, 03:39
First: How can you have nukes? Especially in any quantity? You are a new nation, and do not possess the resources for this.
Second: Whats you reason for 'reclaiming'. Just saying they belong to you is pointless.

New nation? Dude, he's older than you.
_Harrapa_
04-03-2004, 03:40
_Harrapa_,no longer how large you are you could not possibly be capable of waging war on all of these claimed nations.Many stronger than you twice over would step in.It is not plausible.I would suggest backing down before things get too hairy.

OOC: Of course Harrapa couldn't win such a war, the point here is that they will try cause Harrapa has a megalamaniacal govt. (Which of course, is not exactly known for rational decisions, just as terrorists have never been known to be rational though some people here insist that terrorists be rpd as if they were rational.)

IC: Harrapa wishes to ask for respect of its territorial soverignty over Asia.
_Harrapa_
04-03-2004, 03:44
_Harrapa_,no longer how large you are you could not possibly be capable of waging war on all of these claimed nations.Many stronger than you twice over would step in.It is not plausible.I would suggest backing down before things get too hairy.

OOC: Of course Harrapa couldn't win such a war, the point here is that they will try cause Harrapa has a megalamaniacal govt. (Which of course, is not exactly known for rational decisions, just as terrorists have never been known to be rational though some people here insist that terrorists be rpd as if they were rational.)

IC: Harrapa wishes to ask for respect of its territorial soverignty over Asia.
Valient
04-03-2004, 06:19
Why do you only have 27 posts?

Do you RP a lot? I understand that you are not a noob, but your actions are, you must understand and admit, are noobish...
OOC: Ever heard of Alexander the Great, Napaleon, Hitler, etc.
They all claimed the entire Eurasian continent. Not to mention Bush's claim that he owns the world. The govt. of Harrapa is based on such leaders.
If you don't want to rp it then don't. Just stop messing with other people's rp. It is not for you or any one else to bust into someone else's thread and impose what you want on them.
In his opening post, Whittier said I have nukes. That means he accepts that I have nukes. Therefore, for this rp, I do have nukes.
Especially on this thread cause the creator said I had them.

OOC: My mistake. I thought this was an OOC thread.

IC: Alexander Valient officially stands against this proliferation of nuclear weapons.
Sigma Octavus
04-03-2004, 06:25
You couldn't possibly claim all of that. There are several reasons why.

-There are possibly thousands of nations in said areas.
-You are in fact a n00b. not exactly an impressive post count. lack of experience.
-tip: Stop trying to pull seniority. No one knows or respects you.
-Whittier is far larger than you.
-others that aren't coming to mind right now.

My nation hailed from Asia, until it was moved. I would be willing to participate in this n00b stomp. Could be interesting facing a n00b of that size.

And also, a warning. Have you ever heard of MagicChina? Nuked into oblivion in the form of a giant crater made of glass. I'm seeing that in your future if you bring nukes into this.
_Harrapa_
04-03-2004, 07:36
Why do you only have 27 posts?

Do you RP a lot? I understand that you are not a noob, but your actions are, you must understand and admit, are noobish...
OOC: Ever heard of Alexander the Great, Napaleon, Hitler, etc.
They all claimed the entire Eurasian continent. Not to mention Bush's claim that he owns the world. The govt. of Harrapa is based on such leaders.
If you don't want to rp it then don't. Just stop messing with other people's rp. It is not for you or any one else to bust into someone else's thread and impose what you want on them.
In his opening post, Whittier said I have nukes. That means he accepts that I have nukes. Therefore, for this rp, I do have nukes.
Especially on this thread cause the creator said I had them.

OOC: My mistake. I thought this was an OOC thread.

IC: Alexander Valient officially stands against this proliferation of nuclear weapons.
?
_Harrapa_
04-03-2004, 07:37
You couldn't possibly claim all of that. There are several reasons why.

-There are possibly thousands of nations in said areas.
-You are in fact a n00b. not exactly an impressive post count. lack of experience.
-tip: Stop trying to pull seniority. No one knows or respects you.
-Whittier is far larger than you.
-others that aren't coming to mind right now.

My nation hailed from Asia, until it was moved. I would be willing to participate in this n00b stomp. Could be interesting facing a n00b of that size.

And also, a warning. Have you ever heard of MagicChina? Nuked into oblivion in the form of a giant crater made of glass. I'm seeing that in your future if you bring nukes into this.
In response, I qoute my previous post: F off.
And you don't decide the rules for this thread.
Whittier can you make this thread closed or invite only?
Valient
04-03-2004, 07:46
delete double post
Valient
04-03-2004, 07:51
OOC:

I don't give a F*** who the F*** you are. You don't know how to do jack s*** when it comes to Rping.

Go ahead and close this. If you don't there would be so many countries down your throat so fast, you wouldn't be able to blink...

BOY!

(Strict reference to your rping abilities.)

36 posts...
Whittier
04-03-2004, 07:52
You couldn't possibly claim all of that. There are several reasons why.

-There are possibly thousands of nations in said areas.
-You are in fact a n00b. not exactly an impressive post count. lack of experience.
-tip: Stop trying to pull seniority. No one knows or respects you.
-Whittier is far larger than you.
-others that aren't coming to mind right now.

My nation hailed from Asia, until it was moved. I would be willing to participate in this n00b stomp. Could be interesting facing a n00b of that size.

And also, a warning. Have you ever heard of MagicChina? Nuked into oblivion in the form of a giant crater made of glass. I'm seeing that in your future if you bring nukes into this.
OOC: You know you're making an ares (spelling deliberate) of yourself?
First off, I don't care what happened in someone else's thread. I decide what to accept here.
2nd, There are several RL Claims threads.
3rd, He has all that "stuff" cause I am letting him have it. However, if you read the thread from beginning to end, you would have gotten the hint, that H was using an age old excuse for imperialism. No you didn't read the thread, and you are imposing your rules on a thread that ain't yours, therefore you are the noob. (Particularly with the way you denigrating this guy. Not a good way to make friends.)
4th, I can tell automatically from what you've written that you have a very bad attitude. Please leave this thread and don't come back.

Rules for everyone else on this thread are:
Harrapa does have nuclear weapons.
He is claiming asia but he does not own it. He is only doing a Napaleonic RP.
The age of his nation counts more than the number of his posts.
He can have up to a 2 million man army with a budget of 3.6 trillion dollars. (Using the calculator in LowerEgypts post).
Of course, I have 2. 6 trillion hence, H will have an economic advantage in this RP. His nation being economically more powerful.
Harrapa, is recognized, for this thread, as owning the southern half of Pakistan and northwest India, while Mohenjo--Daro will have the north half of Pakistan and Kashmir.
Eye Ran owns Iran and Afghanistan.
The maximum number of troops that can used in this rp per nation is 2 million. Reason being: Cause I said so.
Valient
04-03-2004, 07:53
Sigh... Is this a BIG misunderstanding or what?

Whittier, you should have made your intentions with thsi thread more clear.

Shoulda, woulda, coulda...

Next time, write more clearly, eh?
Whittier
04-03-2004, 07:53
OOC:

I don't give a F*** who the F*** you are. You don't know how to do jack s*** when it comes to Rping.

Go ahead and close this. If you don't there would be so many countries down your throat so fast, you wouldn't be able to blink...

BOY!

(Strict reference to your rping abilities.)

36 posts...
Since that is an OOC post. Please leave this thread and don't come back.
Whittier
04-03-2004, 07:55
New rule, no more profanity or fake profanity.
Valient
04-03-2004, 07:56
alright, i will leave.

But boy... wtf...
Desudoragon
04-03-2004, 08:15
OOC: Ever heard of Alexander the Great, Napaleon, Hitler, etc.
They all claimed the entire Eurasian continent.

OOC: Not to complain or anything, but your history is flawed. None of the leaders you mentioned ever gained control of the entire Eurasia. Hell, none of them even gained complete control of Europe. Get your facts straight first. If you would like to argue about the history of the world, feel free to telegram me.

Whittier: If you want it to be all IC only, then put it in the title.

IC: Desudoragon will gladly assist in the destruction of _Harrapa_ if need be.
04-03-2004, 12:46
OOC: Whatever. How strange.

IC: A message from the Emperor to both nations: "Happy nuking!"

OOC: Now I will gladly honor your request to leave.
Aust
04-03-2004, 17:06
Aust is mobalising 300,000 troops for immediat attack on nation of Harrapa
04-03-2004, 23:55
OOC: Ever heard of Alexander the Great, Napaleon, Hitler, etc.
They all claimed the entire Eurasian continent.

OOC: Not to complain or anything, but your history is flawed. None of the leaders you mentioned ever gained control of the entire Eurasia. Hell, none of them even gained complete control of Europe. Get your facts straight first. If you would like to argue about the history of the world, feel free to telegram me.

Whittier: If you want it to be all IC only, then put it in the title.

IC: Desudoragon will gladly assist in the destruction of _Harrapa_ if need be.

OOC: What is your obssession with winning. Napaleon didn't conquer all of Europe but he took all of it except England and Russia.
The person who came closest to taking all eurasia, was the Mongols and it was only by accident that they were defeated in Europe's Poland and in the mideast by Mamelukes. If those accidents hadn't happened, the official world language today would be mongolian.
(Even the Mongol defeat in Japan was based on accidents of nature. IE the famous Kamikaze or divine wind which was later used to refer to suicide attacks on US ships during wwII. )
Also, claiming a continent is not the same as actually owning it.
Whittier
05-03-2004, 02:51
MD do you feel threatened by Harrapa's actions?
Credonia
05-03-2004, 03:19
The Whittier Intelligence Agency has discovered the large nation of _Harrapa_ getting ready for war and massing troops along its border for no apparent reason.
I have telegramed _Harrapa_ to ask the cause of their mobilization and was told to f off.
He tged me with some gibberish about india, central asia, and the mid east are provinces of his country and he has the right to take them back.
Whittier is quickly exhausting diplomatic resources and he has not responded to further inquiries.
Whittier requests assistance in preventing a major asian wide war that could cover the continent from the mid east, to Russia, to Japan, to Indonesia.
I am not able to determine whehter his moves are defensive due to world events or if he has ambitions on other states' territories.
Those of you who border Harrapa might want to start beefing up your military defenses.

I told you to F off.
India, Pakistan, Iran, Afghanistan, Russia, Iraq, Kuwait, Saudi, Central Asia, China, Japan, Burma all belong to me. And I am going to reclaim them and add the rest of the Mideast and all of SE asia to my domain.
I will use my nukes against you if try to stop me from reclaiming my lands.

OK, see, this is where i step in. You dont have the right to just barge into territory that aint rightfully yours, just because you want it. You threaten to turn it into a nuclear wasteland, well, u know what, do that , and you'll find your nation as a nuclear wasteland as well. Credonia has well over 20,000 nuclear, thermonuclear, biological, and chemical warheads to use at our disposal. You need to back down before you bite off more than you can chew.

To allies: at this time Credonia will not stand down, however, due to this event, the national alert level will STAY at DEFCON 2 (somethin told me not to change it lol)
Credonia
05-03-2004, 03:19
The Whittier Intelligence Agency has discovered the large nation of _Harrapa_ getting ready for war and massing troops along its border for no apparent reason.
I have telegramed _Harrapa_ to ask the cause of their mobilization and was told to f off.
He tged me with some gibberish about india, central asia, and the mid east are provinces of his country and he has the right to take them back.
Whittier is quickly exhausting diplomatic resources and he has not responded to further inquiries.
Whittier requests assistance in preventing a major asian wide war that could cover the continent from the mid east, to Russia, to Japan, to Indonesia.
I am not able to determine whehter his moves are defensive due to world events or if he has ambitions on other states' territories.
Those of you who border Harrapa might want to start beefing up your military defenses.

I told you to F off.
India, Pakistan, Iran, Afghanistan, Russia, Iraq, Kuwait, Saudi, Central Asia, China, Japan, Burma all belong to me. And I am going to reclaim them and add the rest of the Mideast and all of SE asia to my domain.
I will use my nukes against you if try to stop me from reclaiming my lands.

OK, see, this is where i step in. You dont have the right to just barge into territory that aint rightfully yours, just because you want it. You threaten to turn it into a nuclear wasteland, well, u know what, do that , and you'll find your nation as a nuclear wasteland as well. Credonia has well over 20,000 nuclear, thermonuclear, biological, and chemical warheads to use at our disposal. You need to back down before you bite off more than you can chew.

To allies: at this time Credonia will not stand down, however, due to this event, the national alert level will STAY at DEFCON 2 (somethin told me not to change it lol)