NationStates Jolt Archive

Easy green is looking for another country of simmilar size to imbark on a nuclear weapons program. we have already got a well istablished uranium minein industry and have a budget to go with it. also we are looking for support in designing a new multi role surface warship.

A partnership would benefit both our countries, I could send you the blueprints on some of our more common nuclear weapons designs.

In the interests of peace we wish to help you out with this project. We have fully functioning WMD programs, and an allianc eof this nature would be very beneficial.

The government of Sierra-Leone demands that you end this feeble effort of proliferation, and dismantle all facilities relating to this program. We will not stand idly by while rogue nations develop weapons taht coudl kill thousands.

What are you going to do about it? Nothing, your too small! Also, I'm not developing weapons, I already have them.

well tho im larger then you and not the same size i will tho give you 10Billion to aid in this project as well as 35 of our best Cemical biological and Nuclear weapons sicantices. and production plants within my nation.

Offer noted and agreed upon, visit my nation later.

well tho im larger then you and not the same size i will tho give you 10Billion to aid in this project as well as 35 of our best Cemical biological and Nuclear weapons sicantices. and production plants within my nation.

In the interests of peace we wish to help you out with this project. We have fully functioning WMD programs, and an allianc eof this nature would be very beneficial.

We thank you for your support any help will be greatfully recieved. An allience would be good Whos this fool saying what we can and cant do. I propose we allie if either of us get attacked the other sould support do you agree?

well tho im larger then you and not the same size i will tho give you 10Billion to aid in this project as well as 35 of our best Cemical biological and Nuclear weapons sicantices. and production plants within my nation.

Thank you for your help what happened to you in the war you joined
im only looking at nuclear weapons not chemical but thank you for the offer do you need anything yourself as we maybe able to help you.
we have uranium minein and proccesing capabilities but we cant produce weapons grade plutonium as yet so if you could help there it would be great.

A partnership would benefit both our countries, I could send you the blueprints on some of our more common nuclear weapons designs.

Thank you for your help if you need anything at the mo just ask

The government of Sierra-Leone demands that you end this feeble effort of proliferation, and dismantle all facilities relating to this program. We will not stand idly by while rogue nations develop weapons taht coudl kill thousands.#

I think you should shut up you nothing but a tiny nation all the countrys here are huge compared to you. My forces could easly crush you without any problems i will not be the agressor but i will retaliate with my full force

i would be interesed in lending some of my fincal might to the warship program

we have all you need within our nation, at the moment i dont need anything but if i do you will be first to know

Our nation has already telegramed yours with our proposal, maybe we can add some of this nation to our program.

I propose something i wish to form an allience with all nations that are supporting me dunno what we'd call it but id like to get one going it pays to be in a group. This missile program could be the first joint venture what do you say?

United Elias has a firm anti-proliferation policy and we order you to disarm immediately, nuclear weapons do not help your nation but iwll only attract the attention of nations such as ours who do not want small nations gaining technology that tehy doi not know how to be responsible with.

United Elias has a firm anti-proliferation policy and we order you to disarm immediately, nuclear weapons do not help your nation but iwll only attract the attention of nations such as ours who do not want small nations gaining technology that tehy doi not know how to be responsible with.

Instead of "ordering" them to disarm, perhaps you should assist them in preventing accidental exposure due to lack of experiance. It seems as if it has become "right-of-passage" for the large nations to badger the small ones when starting a program such as this. However, Easy Green you should have stated "Nuclear Program" not "Nuclear Weapons". Nuclear power can be very profitable, on the other hand it could lead to the fall of your nation. Though we do not agree on the choice of wording, we find it "responsible" to seek outside help with this developement.

I know you stated that this was for nations similiar in size to yours. However they will also carry the inexperiance of developing, producing, and containing nuclear power. The Black Market will offer you this experiance. From mining and processing to enrichment of Uranium. The systems we have provided throughout NS consist of facilities equipped to deploy the following:

MRBM: DF-25
MRBM: CSS-5 (aka) DF-21
IRBM: CSS-2 (aka) DF-3/3A
IRBM: CSS-3 (aka) DF-4
SLBM: JL-2
ICBM: CSS-4 (aka) DF-5/5A
ICBM: DF-31
ICBM: DF-41

Now lack of population could present a "monetary" issue for your nation. We would require a 50% up-front payment before we could begin. However, we are willing to relocate to your region for logistic and support purposes. If you are truely seeking a program of this nature, we could have the above installed and operational within 5-7 years (10 years flat with proper training). We would also suggest that you start looking for missile defence systems, for obvious reasons. If you are interested, you know where to find us.

-Black Market Represenitive-

United Elias has a firm anti-proliferation policy.

This is your policy. Are you willing to go to war to impose your beliefs and "policies" upon a clearly sovern nation? Sounds like Imperialism.

The Commonwealth of the Freethinkers believe this a to be a good idea for an alliance.

We are currently embarking on producing a new breed of ballistic missile submarine, and as such would welcome the chance to share the cost of developing astate of the art missile system for it.

We have currently started work an upgraded version of our Talisman class ICBM. We will post current research ASAP.

The Iron Fragment supports your attempts wholeheartedly, however, we do not wish to get involved in the project due to the danger of attracting the attention of anti-WMD nations. However, we do encourage the construction of these nukes with a friendly, healthy reminder to always leave them as a last resort.

United Elias has a firm anti-proliferation policy and we order you to disarm immediately, nuclear weapons do not help your nation but iwll only attract the attention of nations such as ours who do not want small nations gaining technology that tehy doi not know how to be responsible with.

Instead of "ordering" them to disarm, perhaps you should assist them in preventing accidental exposure due to lack of experiance. It seems as if it has become "right-of-passage" for the large nations to badger the small ones when starting a program such as this. However, Easy Green you should have stated "Nuclear Program" not "Nuclear Weapons". Nuclear power can be very profitable, on the other hand it could lead to the fall of your nation. Though we do not agree on the choice of wording, we find it "responsible" to seek outside help with this developement.

I know you stated that this was for nations similiar in size to yours. However they will also carry the inexperiance of developing, producing, and containing nuclear power. The Black Market will offer you this experiance. From mining and processing to enrichment of Uranium. The systems we have provided throughout NS consist of facilities equipped to deploy the following:

MRBM: DF-25
MRBM: CSS-5 (aka) DF-21
IRBM: CSS-2 (aka) DF-3/3A
IRBM: CSS-3 (aka) DF-4
SLBM: JL-2
ICBM: CSS-4 (aka) DF-5/5A
ICBM: DF-31
ICBM: DF-41

Now lack of population could present a "monetary" issue for your nation. We would require a 50% up-front payment before we could begin. However, we are willing to relocate to your region for logistic and support purposes. If you are truely seeking a program of this nature, we could have the above installed and operational within 5-7 years (10 years flat with proper training). We would also suggest that you start looking for missile defence systems, for obvious reasons. If you are interested, you know where to find us.

-Black Market Represenitive-

United Elias has a firm anti-proliferation policy.

This is your policy. Are you willing to go to war to impose your beliefs and "policies" upon a clearly sovern nation? Sounds like Imperialism.

That was just my IC way of saying your all godmodding as your still too young to have nucelar weapons.

OOC: Although I agree that under normal circumstances, the Febuary nations having nukes would be a bit o' godmoding, in this case I am forced to agree with them. In this case, because the January nation is large enough to have nuclear weapons, an October nation is also aiding them, and that they have banded together and are pooling their knowlege.

Now, understand that I'm not saying they've built the ultimate nation killing weapon here. Nukes can be shot down, and I doubt they'll have as sophisticated a deployment system as a ICBM. Most likely, they'll be limited to either theater weapons, with a very short range (i.e. good for defence, not attack) or dropped as bombs out of planes (i.e. they need friendly skies to even think about breaking out the bombs). Certainly nothing of a worry to large nations who have counter measures for these.

Even if a nation is hit, it's still not the end of the world. My nation has been hit with several (4) nukes and survived with only 3 cities blown mostly to bits. And if someone does start flinging nukes around like they're candy, just show them who's got the bigger stockpile. :twisted:

Well, that's it for my OOC rant. Feel free to discount it at will, it's 3:03 here on the east coast, and that's my signal to go to bed if I want to be up in time to catch the Eastway diner brunch.

Actually, in order to maintain a ICBM-level military force, you only need a strong economy witha population of about 60,000,000

This is based on RL, with the UK and France both maintaing small but reasonable amounts of nuclear weapons.

Pooling our resources it would be relatively easy to produce ICBM level technology. It would be godmoding to suggest otherwise.

I would like to express my thanks to blackmarket, manarth and freethinkers.
All these nations who think just because they are big they can tell use what to do should piss off this isnt going to affect you in anyway as it has been said if we were to attack you could nuke us many times over so whats the point of use doing so.

Sorry bout the wordin but its true easy green already uses nuclear power and is now seaking to create a nucklear missile program as a last resort retalitory or deffencive move.

Freethinkers we have been looking towards the minuteman 2 missile system but with a twist a multi launch version this would mean less money spent on multiple silos. instead there would be 4-5 silos with a multi launch capability. as for the sub this sounds good to me it would be a good deterant to opressing nations.
on the ally states i here by formaly declear you an ally let us work to gether now not against as befor.

Armed Republic of Wei Kingdom send it's full support to Easy Green's nuclear programme.

i want weapons how do i get them ive jus got a state and want weapons trade and help! how do i get these? How much money is stuff? :twisted:

OOC: Thank you very much.

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This is a concept SSBN we're working on. Modern Tech but very advanced design. Can carry 30 ICBMs or 180 Scimitar or Tomohawk Cruise Missiles. Still at the design stage, it will be expensive, looking at your country, I say you would be able to support three boats.

BEcause of increased reliability and large weaponload, however, you will be able to maintain one submarine on patrol at all times, with the other two on standby and in training.

What do you think? We will need funding to continue the project.

the people of beaversmoles will be willing to help you!

i want weapons how do i get them ive jus got a state and want weapons trade and help! how do i get these? How much money is stuff? :twisted:

chill winston hold on a second. your realy small at the mo som no one will let you have nukes look at the shit weve had to put up with and were 20 times the size of you at least.
Take your time to build up a population. start of with a small force and get bigger slowly ok if you get any jip from a larger state or you need funding or advice justs get in touch with me i can rally some support for you. keep in touch and good luck

OOC: Thank you very much.

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This is a concept SSBN we're working on. Modern Tech but very advanced design. Can carry 30 ICBMs or 180 Scimitar or Tomohawk Cruise Missiles. Still at the design stage, it will be expensive, looking at your country, I say you would be able to support three boats.

BEcause of increased reliability and large weaponload, however, you will be able to maintain one submarine on patrol at all times, with the other two on standby and in training.

What do you think? We will need funding to continue the project.


Im having problems lookin at you web page at the mo i cant seem to load it.
But i trust you u know you stuff. My country is working on a new sonar device at the mo so we could incorparate this into the design. geve me a ball park figure on the cost i will see what the government has to say to a bit of a larger defence budget. If you can send me the states or any info you have that would be great.

the people of beaversmoles will be willing to help you!
your a bit small at the mo mate but any funding would be great. If you do i can through some old millitary hard wear your way as a thanks or later some cash. also if you need help at any point just ask and my government will be able to help you

Armed Republic of Wei Kingdom send it's full support to Easy Green's nuclear programme.

Thanks for your support its nice to know there are some friendly nations around if you can provide help please do so. Again Easy green will help your nation if you ever need us in the future as a thanks

Easy green would like to thank its supporters in these ruff time we request that each nation that is or wants to join in an allience leave its name below just so we know whos on our side thanks again Easy green

Raginsheep, although not known as a nuclear power and also being a fairly young nation, has been developing a nuclear weapon known as the Pure Fusion Nuclear Weapon. The PFNW comprises only of a fusion stage unlike current fission-fusion-fission hydrogen bombs. The use of mainly hydrogen isotopes means that radioactivity is kept to a minium while current projections and computer simulations have estimated that 500 are easily within reach of this weapon. If Easy Green and its partners are willing, Raginsheep would like to share its knowledge so that such a bomb maybe developed for our mutual protection.

Unfortunately the image is hosted on geocities, so you have to copy and paste rather than click the link as geocities does not support remote linking, the sods. :S

Easy Green, maube it's time to create a new region and start with this program. :D

On the advice of friyusistan im going to look into this idear if any nations are interested in joinin please say below and maybe suggest a name if youve got 1

The government of Sierra-Leone demands that you end this feeble effort of proliferation, and dismantle all facilities relating to this program. We will not stand idly by while rogue nations develop weapons taht coudl kill thousands.#

I think you should shut up you nothing but a tiny nation all the countrys here are huge compared to you. My forces could easly crush you without any problems i will not be the agressor but i will retaliate with my full force

Easy Green, Doujin extremely discourages the use and development of Nuclear Weapons. If need be, we will release information regarding nuclear weapons, but we cannot assist you in building one. Doujin itself no longer has a nuclear arsenal. There is no point, we are not ones to commit genocide. We do, however, have a sophisticated anti-ballistic system to protect us against nuclear attacks through ICBMs, and one of the best Navy's in the world to keep short-range attacks from naval vessels.

And, Sierra Leone did not threaten military force. You, however, brought that up. Remember, there are always bigger fish. You may be bigger than him, but I am bigger than you, and there are others that are bigger than me.

The Freethinkers: NationStates may be "based" on Real Life, but it in no way follows all of "real life" realities. France and Britain may have a small nuclear arsenal, but they are also established nations, and worked for several years on them. Here, the size of a nation is the judging factor for what he can and cannot do. Even though realistically, a nation with a 60 mil population and a strong economy could very well have a nuclear program, here, a population of 60 mil. is basically considered a third-world nation. I don't see many third-world nations with a nuclear arsenal capable (ICBMs).

The effects of nuclear weapons last to much longer after they are used to be an effective weapon. I would prefer chemical or biological weapons. I'm not certain, but I am sure the effects of chemical and biological weapons would not last for many years after they are detonated. We are fighting a lost cause.. getting rid of nuclear weapons. But, the best causes worth fighting for are the lost ones.

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A new region or alliance to stand up for the little guy eh?


Sounds interesting. Easy Green, I need details on your sonar project. The Warspite has its own state of the art Bow sonar, but we still need an intercept and flank arrays. The funding we need is roughly $8,000,000,000 from your end.

A new region or alliance to stand up for the little guy eh?


Sounds interesting. Easy Green, I need details on your sonar project. The Warspite has its own state of the art Bow sonar, but we still need an intercept and flank arrays. The funding we need is roughly $8,000,000,000 from your end.

Is it safe for me to assume that you are "The Freethinkers" as well?

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i agree wih your evil plans, i am new to this, but your views soud agreeable :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

Yeah, teh Balding Shrimps were a long dead puppet I used to use when my region was involved in region crashing. I had logged in to see if it had been deleted or not.

It does need deleting though, any mods who can do that?

Anyway, interesting point on comparing RL to NS nations.

On third world nations, you do see Pakistan and North Korea possessing limited means to deploy them, and Iraq would certainly have the means to hae built them if not for US sanctions. Its difficult to describe how powerfula nation has to beto devfelop certain levels of weaponry. I have long ago stopped taking most NS posters seriously without researching the project or subject in question first.

In turn I will concede there has to be a limit on size and ability, we dont want every March nation possessing them.

Funding for your new submarine could be made available, under the agreement that Doujin could produce any ammount of these submarines as seen fit.

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Any funding partner would have full production and resale rights.

Then how would you like the 50,000,000,000? Gold, Silver, Check, Cash..

Gold bullion for large amounts...mainly for th epurpose of maintaining a standard value.

Although I wonder why a non-nuclear nation would like a SSBN. Oh well, you're money is as good as anyones...

Well the hell is this PC doing to me?


Right...above message...repeated...gah.

I do have a storefront to maintain, and there is a large ammount of people that use nuclear weapons, unfortuantly. Along with that, you said it could fit roughly 180 Tomahawk missiles? (We have our own missile, Tomahawks cost 500,000 just to produce [in the end, over 1 million to launch each missile] and aren't as accurate as the US military says they are.)

My government has agreed to supply the additional funds needed ill get the data on the sonar to you asap. We would like to ask you to try and find support to start a new region.

Doujin: Instead of fitting ICBM launching tubes, you can fit six-cell rotating drums within each former ICBM tube. Thus, instead of the thirty ICBMs, you can can carry Tomahawks along the back of the sub.

Easy Green, I will support a new region if you want, but I dont have enough time to actively recruit Im afraid.

The People's Republic of Miko Mono is also seeking "unconventional" weapons to help us deter agression from our larger capitalist neighbours....

If say, I wanted to drop a nuke on you. You having a nuclear weapon wouldn't deter me at all. I would just shoot it down if you tried to launch it. So, deterrance isn't a reason for being in possesion of nuclear weapons.

The Warspite (as it is termed in the Freethinker Navy) has been finished. We will start construction of four boats for the Freethinker Navy itself.

Equipment such as weaponry, powerplant and electronics ar evariable, this is just how it is set up in Freethinker service. Diving depth is five hundred metres if using a solid-reinforced titanium hull.

Easy Green and Doujin have full production and resale rights as per agreement.

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Freethinkers thank you for your support and for letting us have production rights my people think very highly of you. As a thank you i would like to offer you 5 brand new typer 45's anti aircraft ships.

No problem...but we already have all our naval needs fufilled without any new ships.

Your contribution to the program was sufficent payment. However, I would like to signa mutual protection pact between our two nations, if you desire to provide a gift, accept that and we will be more than even.

The United People's Republic of Ikagistan is concerned as to the proliferation of nuclear weapons by such small nations. Be aware, many larger nations, including Ikagistan, have developed sophisticated ABM networks which render the pitiful amount of nuclear weapons that your nations would have as ineffective.

OOC : BEFORE anyone says anything, this nation was resurrected on 9th March 2004 yet was created in June 2003 and has a population of 1.2+ billion. And, all I'm saying, is that even if you lot say you have nuclear weapons, you won't be able to use them against most massive ones as they will ahve the ability to shoot them down.

No problem...but we already have all our naval needs fufilled without any new ships.

Your contribution to the program was sufficent payment. However, I would like to signa mutual protection pact between our two nations, if you desire to provide a gift, accept that and we will be more than even.

inside Longly military base Easy Green the president stands infront of a massive crowd behind him his own personal armed troop stand tall.

"To he presedent of Freethinkers
From The Presedent and nation of Easy Green
I here by declear Easy Greens allience to Freethinkers. From the brink of war to peace let it now stay this way. My nation pledges to fight alongside your nation to the end.
Together we stand United we fall"
A cheer erupts from the group of men behind
"We fight for our bud and for the hell of it"
The easy Green anthum begins to play as a wing of harrier GR 9s scream overhead

Ikagistan, there is no ABM system currently in place within any country of NS that has a 100% success rate at shooting down nuclear ICBM's :p

I'm to am amazed about these WMD :twisted: . I will help anybody to devopled them. I have the techology to do.

If you want more information contact me SUSSR. :D

See you later!!

I have to leave this program, due to a treaty that my nation has signed.
I wish you all good luck in this project.