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The February League- alliance for new nations

Oshima and Izu
03-03-2004, 01:16
Greetings young nations!

The government of Oshima and Izu proposes the formation of a new alliance, exclusively for newly emerged nations.

The February League is a loose organisation dedicated to the support of young nations, with the intention of helping them find a safe, secure and satisfying place in the international community!

Prince Antoku

OOC: It's a sad fact, but many opportunities in the forums are closed to new nations, generally on the grounds that more established players don't want a load of nOObs ruining things.

Whilst I have some sympathy with this (hey, no one wants a fool who can't RP charging about), I do feel that it can be hard for a well meaning newcomer to break in to the action- simply because his nation is a few days old.

So, I'm hoping that new nations (February 2004 or later) will have a look here, and hopefully find others in the same position.

I haven't got any a firm plans for the Laegue (yet!), but I'm open to suggestions and intend to see what happens...

IMPORTANT: This isn't a ticket to a power trip. If your idea of RP-ing is to declare war on everyone in sight with an army you really aren't big enough to have, then this isn't the forum for you...

So please- let's keep things sensible :D
Oshima and Izu
03-03-2004, 01:33
They say popularity breeds popularity :D
Largent
03-03-2004, 01:40
dude, your small too, how do you expect to support these nations?
Oshima and Izu
03-03-2004, 01:55
A good question Largent.

No I am not offering support, so much as MUTUAL SUPPORT. Amazingly, not every alliance involves a major power with its puppets.

The idea is that if you get enough small countries together, together they become greater than the sum of their parts.

It's really a simple idea- honest! :D
Oshima and Izu
03-03-2004, 01:56
A good question Largent.

No I am not offering support, so much as MUTUAL SUPPORT. Amazingly, not every alliance involves a major power with its puppets.

The idea is that if you get enough small countries together, together they become greater than the sum of their parts.

It's really a simple idea- honest! :D
03-03-2004, 02:50
:roll: February nation supports other n00bs!!!!!!! Major Headline! *takes photo* *slaps photo in "the worst n00b posts I've ever seen book* :lol: :lol: :lol:

OOC: Don't even think of calling me a n00b too, because I'm a resurected nation with a population of one and a half billion.
Patoxia
03-03-2004, 04:11
OOC:
Bah, don't be so hard on the Newbies, you were one once too. This one seems to have potential, he isn't a warmonger, he can spell, made a logical post and seems to know about RPing.

Oshima and Izu: Hang in there, don't let people like this ruin your experence here.

Edits: Typos
03-03-2004, 04:14
There's a Alliance for you guys. It's called New Nations Alliance.

You gotta TG Hudecia first, and say I refered it to you.
_Taiwan
03-03-2004, 04:29
OOC: ATA, didn't you get expelled?

The R.O.C expresses interest in becoming an associate member of the February League to support in it's establishment and defence.
Hudecia
03-03-2004, 16:21
ATA is right in a way. The New Nations Alliance (NNA) was an alliance made with similar intentions and ideals.

Principally, we felt that new nations need to come together and support one another, and through our collective strength we can overcome any odds, even stronger nations.

The NNA is based upon equal representation with larger nations having an equal say with smaller nations. In December, a small group of us (when we were newbs) began the alliance which had swelled to include over two dozen nations founded primarily between December 2003 and February 2004 as well as numerous allied groups.

The NNA welcomes the February League and wishes it only success and prosperity. If O&I requires any assistance please feel free to ask.
Oshima and Izu
03-03-2004, 18:26
Greetings to all

Many thanks to all who bothered to be constructive...

First, an OOC message to Eithitopia:

You know, many people might take that sort of unprovoked reaction as a symptom of deep insecurity... Thank you very much for making my case that age has nothing to do with attitude :D

So back to IC:

Patoxia: The League would like to thank your nation's warm words of encouragement; the gesture will be remembered.

ROC: The League would like to thank you for your offer of support; we would be delighted to appoint you an associate member of our community.

Hudecia: Many thanks for your response; the League would be interested in sponsoring closer links with NNA, with the intention of benefitting both organisations.
03-03-2004, 18:42
OOC: I must agree that this is a very good idea. After the recent argument with Foe Hammer about their "declared" right to all RL Boeing designs, I've come to feel that several older nations are allowed to be bullies and condensending just because of their size.

Now, I might invite you to join in a historical war character Rp (1870 tech) that I am planing and allow other members of this orginization to join if they so desire.

This is as much to demonstrate your Rping skill and to illustrate the usefulness of tactics. (You can't throw planes and tanks around in mass squadrons and threaten to use WMD which are common newb problems.)
Kotterdam
03-03-2004, 18:59
The Dominion would like to express its support of the February League, as well as congradulating Oshima and Izu in general and Prince Antoku in particular on their wisdom in proposing this solution. Welcome to the international community. You will do well here.

Rt. Hon. Scott Haley
Prime Minister
Dominion of Kotterdam
Oshima and Izu
03-03-2004, 19:25
Many thanks to Cawhaba and Kotterdam!

Cawhaba- I would be interested in this 1870 tech RP, (O&I started off in a samurai culture region :) ), and yes, I reckon it would help to separate the Rp-ers from the nOObs! So what's the setting- Franco-Prussian war??
The Silver Turtle
03-03-2004, 20:58
OOC: This isn't a bad idea.
I remember, February last year, I and some other n00bs started up an alliance of n00bs.
But we carried on, becoming one of the most famous alliances in NS history.
And the name?
The name, was The GDODAD...
03-03-2004, 21:09
(Actually, this is a puppet of the nation Alcona and Hubris)

No the Cawhabaian War of Rule of 1867.

Basiclly an offshoot of the Austro-Prussian war of 1866 (obscure reference) when Hamburg was over run by the Prussians and lost it's independence. Cawhaba's last King was their ally and he died in a small naval battle with Prussia.

This has left a problem in the inheritance as the next 'ruler' is only eight, female, and some claim illigitamate. At the same time the Queen Dowager has a child in the womb (Lady Macbeth here). There are also several more cousins to the late ruler who feel that the "Baseborn B***" children should never wear the crown, they should. And just to make life intresting, there is a republican group afoot who thinks the monarchy should just be replaced.

(I should note that historically, that the daughter of the winner marries the Duke of Alcona...which explains why Cawhaba joins the Dual Duchy. I made the puppet to avoid Backhanded Bear Traps...)
Oshima and Izu
03-03-2004, 22:19
I like the sound of that Cawhaba! I'm interested...

As to the League: I've been contacted by a January nation who is keen to be involved (which is fine with me- hey, no one here wants discrimination!)

At the moment, the League is certainly generating some favourable responses, in the main; now I reckon it's time to start sorting things out a bit more.

So right now I'm looking for other interested nations who would like to join! Let's get a firm membership :)

Ultimately, if this is succesful (and that's a big IF at this stage) we may want to develop things ( aforum perhaps???). If so, I'll need help organising that sort of thing.
03-03-2004, 22:27
We would like to petition for membership.

Sincerely,

Foreign Affairs Directorate of the Glorious Imperator Eric J. Olsen
Oshima and Izu
03-03-2004, 22:49
The nation of Septema is hereby admitted to the League...

Antoku
Prince of Izu & Lord of Oshima
Arch-chancellor of the League
Oshima and Izu
03-03-2004, 22:50
The nation of Septema is hereby admitted to the League...

Antoku
Prince of Izu & Lord of Oshima
Arch-chancellor of the League
Oshima and Izu
06-03-2004, 13:25
Just bumpin'!!!
Majesto
06-03-2004, 22:24
Hea all, I TM'd Oshima and Izu and I was allowed associate member status. But anyhow, it looks like we have enough members here so that it would be worth our while to get a message board up and running. I'll go and do that now, I'll post the link later, but come on people - let's make the February Alliance one to remember!
Oshima and Izu
07-03-2004, 00:55
Many thanks Majesto!

The nation of Commoragh (hope that's spelt right) has contacted my government, and expressed an interest in joining.

Which is good news- the more, the merrier.

And just to reiterate, although primarily an alliance suitable for new nations, we will not turn away slightly older states, especially ones who agree with the concept :D
Oshima and Izu
07-03-2004, 22:12
So that the proposal remains active :D
Oshima and Izu
08-03-2004, 12:35
Ah well...

Someone new might be interested!
Majesto
08-03-2004, 13:57
I didn't forget about the message board... I should have a link sometime later or tomorrow at the latest. BTW: Could you put a list of the current members up? Thanks.
Oshima and Izu
08-03-2004, 16:34
Thanks Majesto...

Current members:

Oshima & Izu
Majesto
Septema
Commoragh

Associated members:

_Taiwan

***

Hopefully we'll get more once things are up and running...
Nimzonia
08-03-2004, 16:51
The Republic of Nimzonia expresses an interest in the February League, and would like to petition for membership.

Dr Erik Mennstein
Nimzonian Foreign Secretary
-Sealand-
08-03-2004, 17:43
The Principality of Sealand would like to join this league.
Majesto
09-03-2004, 03:25
Majesto
09-03-2004, 03:27
Sealand and Nimzonia - you're both admitted to the February Alliance!

BTW: The link should be up soon! I'm fixing some of the specifics of the boards. :D
Majesto
09-03-2004, 04:15
http://www.aimoo.com/forum/freeboard.cfm?id=569108

That's the link to the message boards! The proposal to join is still open for all February nations and I'd say the early March ones (no later than March 6, the end of the first week). So, about the boards - all members are encouraged to join, it's free and quick - but if you're not an approved member, don't join or you'll be banned.

One more thing: If you're having a problem joining, please send me a TM and/or post it here and I'll help you out.
Oshima and Izu
09-03-2004, 15:40
Nice work Majesto!

Dimmimar has also been admitted to the League...

Hope to see members on the boards!
Majesto
10-03-2004, 02:38
Bump, Bumpity, Bump

The offer to join still stands for all February and early March (March 6) nations. Join up!
Raginsheep
10-03-2004, 12:53
Raginsheep expresses interest in the alliance. It is willing to defend the rights of us smaller nations.
Majesto
10-03-2004, 13:38
Raginsheep - welcome to the February Alliance. I'll upgrade the mebmer list sometime today.

Attention all members - don't forget to join the boards, the link is above.
Majesto
11-03-2004, 00:13
*Bump*

We're still looking for new members. Come on people, join up! Look above for information and the forum's url, all members should join.
Majesto
12-03-2004, 00:34
*BUMP*

Come on people, we're an alliance with our own message boards and we're drawing up a charter now. Membership is open to all nations created in February and early March (March 6 is the cut off).

I can't see why we don't have more signups - all February nations should be in this alliance!

The message board link:
http://www.aimoo.com/forum/freeboard.cfm?id=569108

All members should join up on this, but if you join and you're not a member - you'll get banned.
12-03-2004, 00:40
if your nation takes pride in its nuclear missiles move to the nuclear congress region
Majesto
12-03-2004, 00:58
OOC: How do you have nuclear missiles at one day old? Now please get out of this thread please and no more advertisers.

IC:

Look above for the recrutment message. Thanks.
Kurashita
12-03-2004, 01:18
The Principality of Kurashita would like to join the February League. We have been searching for an alliance suitable for us, and this looks to be it. We await your reply.

The Principality's thanks,
Premier Alexander Duane
Majesto
12-03-2004, 01:52
Kurashita, I'd like to welcome you to the February Alliance. I've already updated the member list on the forums. Also, you are now welcome to join the forums.

To all February and early March nations - come and sign up. We're always looking for new members!
Majesto
12-03-2004, 03:50
BUMP

Look at the above post for more info on joining!
Oshima and Izu
12-03-2004, 17:28
Hey! Excellent to see some new members since I last checked...

If you're a member, don't forget to join the forum!

O&I
Monte Ozarka
12-03-2004, 19:29
The Grand Duchy of Monte Ozarka is hereby petitioning to join in the February Alliance. We would have done something similar if Oshima and Izu had not beat us to it. Furthermore, we are interested in exchanging embassies and military, intellectual, and industrial advisors. Will you take us up on the offer? Perhaps...extend this alliance beyond military ties into the realm of economics? However you decide is fine with us. Our mutual securities come first and foremost.

For peace and prosperity,
--ROBERT WERTER, Count of Viscosia, Foreign Minister for the Archduke Philip IV of the Grand Duchy of Monte Ozarka

[Edit:]*IMMEDIATE TRANSMISSION*
I have realized that within some of the proceedings, a requirement was set that allowed only nations that were founded on or before March 6th. I am sad to say that my nation was unable to fall within those guidelines, having been founded on March 9th. We are very sorry for our clerical error in not catching this the first time around. We still hope to join the February Alliance if you are willing to bend the rules a bit, but if you refuse our petition, the government of the Grand Duchy of Monte Ozarka fully understand and wish you, the Alliance, and its member nations the best of wishes in your future endeavors.
Oshima and Izu
12-03-2004, 22:25
To Monte Ozarka: I was most interested to here of your application.

As to the March 6th rule, O&I is willing to overlook the requirement in your case, subject to consultation with my colleague Majesto.

We will inform you of a final decision, but until then, you may consider your nation a provisional member.

***

To Majesto: Feel free to TG me about this... :D
Steel Butterfly
12-03-2004, 22:28
:roll: February nation supports other n00bs!!!!!!! Major Headline! *takes photo* *slaps photo in "the worst n00b posts I've ever seen book* :lol: :lol: :lol:

OOC: Don't even think of calling me a n00b too, because I'm a resurected nation with a population of one and a half billion.

Ever hear of strength in numbers? If done correctly (and it probably won't be...but) a large group of young nations could become very powerful.
Majesto
13-03-2004, 17:19
First, Monte Ozarka, I could see no reason why you couldn't be allowed to join. You are now a full member and are free to go and join the message boards.

Secondly, Steel Butterfly. What would make you say that this isn't being done right? This alliance was well thought out by Oshima & Izu and myself, don't worry about us, we'll do fine.

Thirdly, we're still looking for new members. Join up, and let's show the world that new nations can still be poweful.
Majesto
14-03-2004, 03:50
BUMP

We're still looking for new members. All February or early March (March 6 is the cut-off) my ask to be accepted. The alliance would appreciate some new members.

--> I still want to know what you thing is wrong with this alliance Steel Butterfly.
14-03-2004, 03:59
Hey, my nation is just a few hours old. I would like to join your alliance.
Lyrica
14-03-2004, 04:16
I'd kind of like to get involved with NS roleplay a bit more. I'm not a new nation (just resurrected because I was busy for a few weeks :-P) so I don't think I actually qualify, but I'm wondering if anyone has anywhere else I could go for support? I've never really been a roleplay person either, so I'm feeling too shy to just jump into things.

-Lyrica
Ubumedu
14-03-2004, 04:27
The Dominion of Ubumedu would be interested in joining the February Alliance.

-Robert Earl
Foriegn Minister
Upper Cet Kola Ytovia
14-03-2004, 04:44
The government of the Dominion of Upper Cet Kola Ytovia is currently debating the merits of joining this alliance. Our nation began as a collection of refugees from many different nations, so we place a high value on our independence. However, we also recognize that we are still a small nation in a world were countries with 2 billion+ populations and vast militaries abound, not to mention terrorists and the occasional rogue state with an itchy trigger finger.

This alliance is particularly interesting, as our allies would be of similar size and thus our relationships would be based upon mutual interest rather than domination by a much larger power. Still, we really like our independence. We will continue to debate the issue, and let you know of our decision.

OOC: Yeah, I'm, like, RP-ing a democracy here, so a bit of schitzophrenia and unwilling to upset my status quo is involved here. :P
Majesto
14-03-2004, 06:10
Ok, to reply to all of the membership requests:

Lyrica: I don't think so, you're not a new nation... But I'd just jump into RPing. You have a very large population and could probably fight almost anyone around here. When I first came to NS, I was shy too - but after a couple of posts, you'll get used to it. However, if you'd like to become an associate member, I'll talk to Oshima & Izu, my colleauge. I'll TM you some time tomorrow.

Drexel Hill & Ubumedu: You two nations do know that you fall outside of the March 6th cut off date. I'd be fine with letting you two nations in, but I will need to ask my colleauge Oshima & Izu. I'll send TMs some time tomorrow.

Upper Cet Kola Ytovia: This alliance is made up of members like you, all of us are fairly new nations that want to RP, but really can't because of our sizes. I'm the oldest member - Jan. 27, all of the other members are February and early March. The alliance is currently drawing up a charter that specifically lays out what the alliance can and cannot do. We have no intention to take away the power of your nation, only add to it. You have nothing to lose by joining.

*********

We're still looking for new members. Post it here if you wish to petition for membership. Thank you.
Oshima and Izu
14-03-2004, 17:03
Apologies for my enforced absence, for 'reasons of state' (or in OOC terms, too much work!)

Lyrica: The O&I government has informed Majesto of its willingness to admit you as an associate member (as with my old ally Taiwan)

Drexel, Ubumedu: The O&I government has likewise informed Majesto that we are satisfied with your applications.

Upper Cet Kola Ytovia: We would like to reinforce the statement of Majesto; this alliance is intended to strengthen the sovereignty of young nations, by offering mutual protection against hostile larger neighbours.
Lyrica
15-03-2004, 00:02
yay. now let me get back to the essay I'm writing. you can't help me with that, can you? ;)
Majesto
15-03-2004, 14:12
--> Ok, everyone got their TMs and have all been accepted.

----> Sign up here!! (BUMP)
Upper Cet Kola Ytovia
16-03-2004, 06:32
Resolution in support for joining in the February League has passed all three houses of the Lagukrof. Fure Calere Damog Atenkruf conveys the will of the people of Upper Cet Kola Ytovia by tendering an application to join the alliance.

(Notes: Lagukrof = the legislature. Fure Calere = highest ranking member of the Calere, i.e. the executive branch, and thus serves as head of state. "Damog Atenkruf" is a Native Ytovian name.)
Oshima and Izu
16-03-2004, 16:19
Upper Cet Kola Ytovia: You have been provisionally accepted within the FA. Welcome aboard!

I would encourage you to visit the forum, and in particular to consider the charter of membership being prepared by Majesto, since all members will be required to affirm its terms. Feel free to post any comments or TG either us at O&I, or Majesto, with any queries.
Oshima and Izu
16-03-2004, 16:20
Upper Cet Kola Ytovia: You have been provisionally accepted within the FA. Welcome aboard!

I would encourage you to visit the forum, and in particular to consider the charter of membership being prepared by Majesto, since all members will be required to affirm its terms. Feel free to post any comments or TG either us at O&I, or Majesto, with any queries.
Majesto
17-03-2004, 04:41
Ok, as you people can see, the support that we have been recieving the past few weeks is great. The time to join up freely will be ending in the near future. If you're interested, post something here and either I or O&I will get back to you.

Also, all members must join the forums!!!

http://www.aimoo.com/forum/freeboard.cfm?id=569108
Justinopian Kingdom
17-03-2004, 05:31
My nation is requesting admittance into the league
_Taiwan
17-03-2004, 05:42
Thanks for the TM. I've signed up for the forums.
Evil-Catzegovina
17-03-2004, 05:50
Greetings young nations!

OOC: It's a sad fact, but many opportunities in the forums are closed to new nations, generally on the grounds that more established players don't want a load of nOObs ruining things.



BUMP

We're still looking for new members. All February or early March (March 6 is the cut-off) my ask to be accepted.



The second quote basically applies the fact stated in the first quote to those who didn't join up before March 6th.

This seems dubious to me, but whatever :?
Nimzonia
17-03-2004, 06:05
It's a sad fact, but many opportunities in the forums are closed to new nations, generally on the grounds that more established players don't want a load of nOObs ruining things.


I seem to have avoided that then - I've been involved in an interesting and intelligent RP since a few days after I joined. Lucky me. :)
Oshima and Izu
17-03-2004, 18:25
Oshima and Izu
17-03-2004, 18:25
Evil-Catzegovina, while I accept your point, the March 6th requirement has in practice been waived for younger nations seeking membership. A quick look at our member list will reveal that we are in fact prepared to consider all young nations.

I would also like to add (for the benefit of anyone remotely interested) that whilst I, like Nimzonia, managed to avoid such nations, I have a very strong impression that some new players are not so fortunate; however infrequent that might be, I felt strongly enough about it to try to do something constructive...
Oshima and Izu
17-03-2004, 18:32
Apologies- Justinopian Kingdom; your application has been accepted...I would like to take the opportunity to direct you to the forums, if you have any problems there, feel free to conatct either myself or Majesto.
Oshima and Izu
17-03-2004, 18:33
Apologies- Justinopian Kingdom; your application has been accepted...I would like to take the opportunity to direct you to the forums, if you have any problems there, feel free to conatct either myself or Majesto.
Bariloche
17-03-2004, 19:57
Greetings from the Community of Bariloche to Oshima and Izu and Majesto:

The government of Bariloche would like to express its admiration for the ideals presented by the February League and would like to enter the alliance in the same way _taiwan has, and help in the defense of the young nations.

We are members of the Legion of Defense, as the R.O.C. is too, and would like to be the link between these alliances. We think the February League would benefit greatly from having close diplomatic realtions with the LoD.

We think that what might be wrong with this alliance is that it should accept all new nations from here on, and maybe either let go the older nations or keep them only as Protectors, similar to the LoD (which sorrily didn't adquire any new Protectorates, and it's failing in its main reason to exist).

We expect to have notice from you,
Respectfully,

Pablo Bernal
President
Community of Bariloche
Majesto
18-03-2004, 02:48
For everyone's information:

The forum url is:

http://www.aimoo.com/forum/freeboard.cfm?id=569108.


Anyhow, we have been taking in all new nations, but it was just an idea that since we were the February Alliance, it would be stupid to have a large number of March nations. But still, we have been accepting everyone who's asked to be admitted. You are welcomed into the alliance as an associate member, please feel free to join the boards. I will talk to O&I about waving the age requirement all together.

**************

BUMP. You can still join up. Post here and either myself or O&I will get back to you soon. Thanks.
Majesto
19-03-2004, 00:30
Attention all prospective and current members:

For those of you who don't know me, I'm Majesto, an Administrative Councilman of the February Alliance. Myself and Oshima and Izu have developed a time frame to get the alliance official. I just want to get this out into the open so that anyone will be able to join if they want. Here it is:

1. Open membership will end this Saturday at eight o' clock Eastern Time. After that, you'll need to petition the assembly for membership. For now, feel free to post below for membership.

2. On Saturday evening, I'll cross check the member list against the forum member list so that all people will be members of the "General Assembly."

3. The member nations of the alliance will be ratifying the treaty from Monday into Tuesday.

4. On Wednesday, we will officially be an alliance.

***************************

So, please post below if you want to be a member of the alliance. We're currently looking for both assembly members and associate members.

The forum url is:

http://www.aimoo.com/forum/freeboard.cfm?id=569108.

Thank you all.
Bariloche
19-03-2004, 20:01
This is an OOC post:

A couple of suggestions: First, time settings should be given in the GMT +/- # format, in this case GMT-4 (I think, if daylight saving times aren't fooling me); and second, the situation of Associate members (_taiwan and myself for now) should be clarified, will we have diplomatic and political participation? or are we just resources? along other questions that I'll post in the forums later.
19-03-2004, 23:01
As Director of Foriegn Affairs for the Unforgiven, I would like to indicate our full and complete support for the February Alliance (OOC/hard to do otherwise, since O&I is a regionmate/OOC).

I would like to also request that the entire region be considered _honorary_ members of your alliance (OOC/might add a bit to the size haha/OOC). We would also like to offer our region as a home for any nations of the FebAll who wish to join! Mi casa es su casa.

Glad to see so many young nations working to become an integral part of the world!
Majesto
20-03-2004, 00:55
First: That was just a guide. It's not like if someone posts at 8:15 I'll say no. It was just a time frame to help make the alliance official.

Associate members as of now have no vote in the assembly, but a say. I believe that it is similar to LOD protector status, but I'm not entirly sure how they work. If you wish to propose something, add it into the membership charter thread in the forum (under suggestions).

Itakeitall, I have sent you a TM with a question. We appreciate your support, but since O&I is a member, your region doesn't need honorary status, if any more February nations from your region wish to join, send them here.

************

Now, post here for membership. Come on! How could you people not wish to be part of this progressive alliance?
Majesto
20-03-2004, 16:14
Bump.

Come on, sign up, new nations, don't miss this opportunity.