NationStates Jolt Archive


Many moslems executed

28-02-2004, 20:19
Earlier today, Bisonic OMON raided several apartments, discovering terrorist cells, and AKM assault rifles, as well as explosives. The cells are believed to be lniked to Al aAnbar and Diwaniyah.

Meanwhile, around 30 Imams have been executed for denouncing the Bisonic Government as being an 'infidel regime'.
28-02-2004, 22:00
You should have also executed many of those attending the Imam's mosques.
Matich
28-02-2004, 22:10
We support you DT on your war on terror.
Feline
28-02-2004, 22:25
Feline is keeping its eye on Dark Terror, as usual.

If you begin killing innocents, we will intervene.

(OOC: That's the answer to your question, Bisons.)
29-02-2004, 00:06
(OOC: Im all up for the extermination of Moslems. Just keep in mind I blanket ignore space tech on either side, as always)
IC:
It has been decided that since most Imams did not get the message and still preach against the government, all Imams who had attacked the government will be sent to gulags. All other moslems have been given one week to get the hell out of Dark Terror, after which they will be sent to gulags.
29-02-2004, 00:17
Dark Terror,

Not all Muslims are terrorists and not all terrorists are Muslims. In fact, some would consider massicring inocent civilians - like what your doing - terrorism. Stop your actions while you have the chance. If you don't back down, I'm sure that I could form an international coalition to stop you.

Best Regards,
President Michael J. Smith,
President of Nanakaland,
Founder / President / Secritary of War of the Legion of Defence,
Member of the Kingdom of the Midlands region
29-02-2004, 00:21
OOC: You have telegrams, Nanakaland.
29-02-2004, 00:22
Dark Terror,

Not all Muslims are terrorists and not all terrorists are Muslims. In fact, some would consider massicring inocent civilians - like what your doing - terrorism. Stop your actions while you have the chance. If you don't back down, I'm sure that I could form an international coalition to stop you.

Best Regards,
President Michael J. Smith,
President of Nanakaland,
Founder / President / Secritary of War of the Legion of Defence,
Member of the Kingdom of the Midlands region

Dear Nanakaland,

The Imams incited terrorism, and we will be on the safe side. We do not care what the world thinks. If you want to form a coalition of imperialist pigs, we say bring it on.

Regards,
Foreign Minister of Dark Terror,
Vladimir Zhirnovsky
29-02-2004, 00:24
there is alot about war on terror these days in NS.
Helveticuz
29-02-2004, 00:27
The Evil Empire of Helveticuz supports you all the way, DT.
If Nanakaland invades you we will surely aid you in all possible ways.

-Emperor Mordum-
29-02-2004, 00:29
Diwaniyah will aid any coalition against Dark Terror and their allies, including "Free" Rumania.
Muktar
29-02-2004, 00:29
Dark Terror,

Not all Muslims are terrorists and not all terrorists are Muslims. In fact, some would consider massicring inocent civilians - like what your doing - terrorism. Stop your actions while you have the chance. If you don't back down, I'm sure that I could form an international coalition to stop you.

Best Regards,
President Michael J. Smith,
President of Nanakaland,
Founder / President / Secritary of War of the Legion of Defence,
Member of the Kingdom of the Midlands region

Dear Nanakaland,

The Imams incited terrorism, and we will be on the safe side. We do not care what the world thinks. If you want to form a coalition of imperialist pigs, we say bring it on.

Regards,
Foreign Minister of Dark Terror,
Vladimir Zhirnovsky

From what we can tell, the Imams did not incite terrorism. They incited independant and liberal thinking among the people. They have not spoken to take violent action against your government, which is first killed Muslims, followed by sending them to concentration camps with a deceptive name. Are you sure you are the protagonist in this scenario?
HPSauce
29-02-2004, 00:30
HPSauce officially condemns the actions of Helveticuz as too extreme. Fair trials should be performed before excution.

We would also like to condemn the government of Dark Terror and Free Rumania (again). Your policies are far too extreme. HPSauce has officially updated its national reference archives to show your nations as "police states."
29-02-2004, 00:30
Diwaniyah will aid any coalition against Dark Terror and their allies, including "Free" Rumania. Death to kuffar!
Diwanyah, are you located in Iraq by any chance?
29-02-2004, 00:32
Diwaniyah will aid any coalition against Dark Terror and their allies, including "Free" Rumania. Death to kuffar!
Diwanyah, are you located in Iraq by any chance?

No. Diwaniyah is a fictional country, but would be based in the Middle East.
Muktar
29-02-2004, 00:33
Diwaniyah, if you look at the initial post, dark terror is coming after your people. Are you sure you want to support him?
29-02-2004, 00:34
Dark Terror,

Not all Muslims are terrorists and not all terrorists are Muslims. In fact, some would consider massicring inocent civilians - like what your doing - terrorism. Stop your actions while you have the chance. If you don't back down, I'm sure that I could form an international coalition to stop you.

Best Regards,
President Michael J. Smith,
President of Nanakaland,
Founder / President / Secritary of War of the Legion of Defence,
Member of the Kingdom of the Midlands region

Dear Nanakaland,

The Imams incited terrorism, and we will be on the safe side. We do not care what the world thinks. If you want to form a coalition of imperialist pigs, we say bring it on.

Regards,
Foreign Minister of Dark Terror,
Vladimir Zhirnovsky

:twisted:

You're asking for it.
29-02-2004, 00:35
[OOC
Diwaniyah, one of the main motivational reasons for this was to give me an excuse to destroy you. Hence the terrosists being arrested]
IC:
Dark Terror thanks Helveticuz for its aid.

The Imams violated several laws in Dark Terror, namely they incited violence. We will not bother with diversity or political correctness- any liberals who wanted that were shot loooong ago.
29-02-2004, 00:35
Diwaniyah will aid any coalition against Dark Terror and their allies, including "Free" Rumania. Death to kuffar!
Diwanyah, are you located in Iraq by any chance?

No. Diwaniyah is a fictional country, but would be based in the Middle East.
Meet you neighbour :twisted:
Helveticuz
29-02-2004, 00:36
HPSauce officially condemns the actions of Helveticuz as too extreme. Fair trials should be performed before excution.

We would also like to condemn the government of Dark Terror and Free Rumania (again). Your policies are far too extreme. HPSauce has officially updated its national reference archives to show your nations as "police states."

OOC: Too extreme?

IC: HPSauce, you clearly do not know the threat of the terrorist theese days. We must put an end to it...and this is the only way. Join us instead of fighting us.
29-02-2004, 00:36
Dark Terror,

Not all Muslims are terrorists and not all terrorists are Muslims. In fact, some would consider massicring inocent civilians - like what your doing - terrorism. Stop your actions while you have the chance. If you don't back down, I'm sure that I could form an international coalition to stop you.

Best Regards,
President Michael J. Smith,
President of Nanakaland,
Founder / President / Secritary of War of the Legion of Defence,
Member of the Kingdom of the Midlands region

Dear Nanakaland,

The Imams incited terrorism, and we will be on the safe side. We do not care what the world thinks. If you want to form a coalition of imperialist pigs, we say bring it on.

Regards,
Foreign Minister of Dark Terror,
Vladimir Zhirnovsky

:twisted:

You're asking for it.
Yes we are :twisted:

Dark Terror is on DEFCON-2, with over 3000 SAM batteries deployed around the capital alone.
29-02-2004, 00:36
Diwaniyah, if you look at the initial post, dark terror is coming after your people. Are you sure you want to support him?

OOC: Yes, I know that. That is why I'm supporting anyone that wants to *KILL* him.

Diwaniyah will aid any coalition against Dark Terror and their allies, including "Free" Rumania. Death to kuffar!
imported_ViZion
29-02-2004, 00:37
lol, man... There's two anti-terror wars started yesterday, both by me... Coalition Against Terror and NWO Declares War on Terror... Hmm... considering Dark Terror is "fighting terrorism" the two groups could soon be going head to head if this continues... but, then, terrorism would win out... :-( Agree?
Muktar
29-02-2004, 00:38
Illegal Muktar organizations begin placing bets on which side will win the war: anti-terrorist or anti-tyrant. Nobody has made a bet on peaceful resolution, although it is clearly stated as an option.
HPSauce
29-02-2004, 00:38
I don't fight you. I condemn you, terrorists or no they deserve a trial. Justice must be served. Not righteousness.

To Dark-Terror:

We are shocked at your actions frankly. Your rating has been shifted from Police State to Terror State.
29-02-2004, 00:38
OOC:
Im not fighting terrorism. Im fighting Islam.
29-02-2004, 00:39
Diwaniyah will aid any coalition against Dark Terror and their allies, including "Free" Rumania. Death to kuffar!
Diwanyah, are you located in Iraq by any chance?

No. Diwaniyah is a fictional country, but would be based in the Middle East.
Meet you neighbour :twisted:

OOC: That's nice, but I'm not located near Iran (assuming that is who you are since your name is Eye Ran)
29-02-2004, 00:39
I don't fight you. I condemn you, terrorists or no they deserve a trial. Justice must be served. Not righteousness.

To Dark-Terror:

We are shocked at your actions frankly. Your rating has been shifted from Police State to Terror State.
We would like to be shfted to Brutal Rogue Dengerous State.
HPSauce
29-02-2004, 00:40
I don't fight you. I condemn you, terrorists or no they deserve a trial. Justice must be served. Not righteousness.

To Dark-Terror:

We are shocked at your actions frankly. Your rating has been shifted from Police State to Terror State.
We would like to be shfted to Brutal Rogue Dengerous State.

We'll invent a new category just to put you in it.
Muktar
29-02-2004, 00:43
lol, man... There's two anti-terror wars started yesterday, both by me... Coalition Against Terror and NWO Declares War on Terror... Hmm... considering Dark Terror is "fighting terrorism" the two groups could soon be going head to head if this continues... but, then, terrorism would win out... :-( Agree?

I dunno... after I convinced GameFAQ and possibly HLF to give up terrorism, their numbers have dropped substantially.
29-02-2004, 00:43
Diwaniyah will aid any coalition against Dark Terror and their allies, including "Free" Rumania. Death to kuffar!
Diwanyah, are you located in Iraq by any chance?

No. Diwaniyah is a fictional country, but would be based in the Middle East.
Meet you neighbour :twisted:

OOC: That's nice, but I'm not located near Iran (assuming that is who you are since your name is Eye Ran)
Only have to travel through some desert...
Muktar
29-02-2004, 00:45
Diwaniyah will aid any coalition against Dark Terror and their allies, including "Free" Rumania. Death to kuffar!
Diwanyah, are you located in Iraq by any chance?

No. Diwaniyah is a fictional country, but would be based in the Middle East.
Meet you neighbour :twisted:

OOC: That's nice, but I'm not located near Iran (assuming that is who you are since your name is Eye Ran)
Only have to travel through some desert...

More like mountains. Get a geographic map sometime.
Euroslavia
29-02-2004, 00:45
Euroslavia must stay neutral if a conflict were to occur. Both Dark Terror and Nanakaland are our allies, therefore, we cannot aid either side.
Helveticuz
29-02-2004, 00:45
Helveticuz has now swifted to Defcon 3, and is preparing to roll into DT.
29-02-2004, 00:47
Helveticuz has now swifted to Defcon 3, and is preparing to roll into DT.
Thats on my side, I presume...

We do not need any military aid, though we could use spare naval forces.
29-02-2004, 00:55
More like mountains. Get a geographic map sometime.
WTF are you talking about? Most of the mountains in the Middle East are in Iran and Turkey...the rest is mostly flat desert except for some mountains in W. Saudi Arabia
http://www.suite101.com/files/topics/3874/files/map.jpg
Helveticuz
29-02-2004, 01:02
Helveticuz has now swifted to Defcon 3, and is preparing to roll into DT.
Thats on my side, I presume...

We do not need any military aid, though we could use spare naval forces.
Ofcourse i'm on your side. I'm just sending in some forces to help you incase of urban combat.
My fleet is in your hands. Up yours, allah.
29-02-2004, 01:03
Euroslavia must stay neutral if a conflict were to occur. Both Dark Terror and Nanakaland are our allies, therefore, we cannot aid either side.

Then Nanakaland will aslo stay neutral.
We don't want to anger our ally.
29-02-2004, 01:05
Helveticuz has now swifted to Defcon 3, and is preparing to roll into DT.
Thats on my side, I presume...

We do not need any military aid, though we could use spare naval forces.
Ofcourse i'm on your side. I'm just sending in some forces to help you incase of urban combat.
My fleet is in your hands. Up yours, allah.
Thank you.
Iuthia
29-02-2004, 01:09
We don't want to anger our ally.

Which one?


Iuthia would like to declare our normal condemnation of Dark Terror... you know... blah blah blah Slaver... blah blah blah Maniac... blah blah blah leave our goddamn hamster alone... you know, normal stuff.

Seeing as we have condemned Dark Terror as much as we can without actually doing anything... though we may give any opposing nation monitary assistance, we just can't be assed dealing with the guy ourselves, to much hassle.
Flocarga and Delmarva
29-02-2004, 01:19
Actually, wouldn't it be better to sell your country's Muslim population, then bomb some random Islamic nation you want to hate?
29-02-2004, 01:23
OOC: Dark Terror is such a racist asshole.

Why are you picking on me anyway? I've never even RPed with you once.
29-02-2004, 01:25
OOC: Dark Terror is such a racist asshole.

Why are you picking on me anyway? I've never even RPed with you once.
You have been added to the list of official terrorist sponsoring nations.
29-02-2004, 01:26
OOC: Dark Terror is such a racist asshole.

Why are you picking on me anyway? I've never even RPed with you once.
You have been added to the list of official terrorist sponsoring nations.

Why is that? We don't support terrorism.
29-02-2004, 01:29
I find it very sad that some nations with crimes far less are invaded but this bigoted, hatred-based nation is allowed to live simply because some nations are too lazy or too scared to stand up to it. Like a huge coalition of Chamberlains against one Hitler. You all disgust me. Once our current crisis involving Dark Terror's ally, Russian Forces, is resolved, we will do anything in our power, possibly including being destroyed as a a nation to stop the horrors this bullying, evil nation is commiting.
Feline
29-02-2004, 01:29
Dark Terror: Last warning. Acknowledge whether you will cease this reign of terror, or whether you will risk war. And Don-Cossacks, if they deny this warning, we shall attack them. We are not afraid of Dark Terror, nor will we ever be.

Helveticuz: You realize you just said "up yours" to the deities of any and all monotheistic religions, right? I'm not Mus/Moslem, but most people do know now that "Allah" is merely the Arabic equivilent of the English word "God", not any specific deity.
29-02-2004, 01:35
We restate our position on this - Bring it on.

his has been named Operation Lemming Hunt.
http://www.arconet.es/users/marta/lemming.jpg
OOC
Diwaniyah, yes I am, get used to it.
29-02-2004, 01:42
Diwaniyah, yes I am, get used to it.

OOC: Take your racism somewhere else. I will have nothing to do with it.
29-02-2004, 01:43
Diwaniyah, yes I am, get used to it.

OOC: Take your racism somewhere else. I will have nothing to do with it.
OOC:
Blowing 'death to infidels' type moslems to hell is #1 on my priorities list.
29-02-2004, 01:46
Diwaniyah, yes I am, get used to it.

OOC: Take your racism somewhere else. I will have nothing to do with it.
OOC:
Blowing 'death to infidels' type moslems to hell is #1 on my priorities list.

OOC: That was IC. You are, however, being a racist OOCly as well. I will have nothing to do with this stupid retardedness of yours.
Neo Earth
29-02-2004, 01:47
Unfortunatly, while we do heavily condem this act by our closest ally, we do understand that in hope of saving many inoocent lives, some innocents must die to protect others.

Also, should any nation take military action agianst DT, we will stand beside our ally.
29-02-2004, 01:50
Diwaniyah, yes I am, get used to it.

OOC: Take your racism somewhere else. I will have nothing to do with it.
OOC:
Blowing 'death to infidels' type moslems to hell is #1 on my priorities list.

OOC: That was IC. You are, however, being a racist OOCly as well. I will have nothing to do with this stupid retardedness of yours.
OOC:
Thats your problem, as yes I am a racist OOCly.
29-02-2004, 01:52
Diwaniyah, yes I am, get used to it.

OOC: Take your racism somewhere else. I will have nothing to do with it.
OOC:
Blowing 'death to infidels' type moslems to hell is #1 on my priorities list.

OOC: That was IC. You are, however, being a racist OOCly as well. I will have nothing to do with this stupid retardedness of yours.
OOC:How did you guess, as far as Im concerned moslems are just a waste of space, food, and oxygen.

Thats your problem, as yes I am a racist OOCly.

Oh, sorry, I was able to quote you before you editted your post.

You're a fucking retarded racist pig. I will not waste any more time with you.
Neo Earth
29-02-2004, 01:53
A second statement:

Emp. Ryo asks DT to end the killings (unless you already killed them all; to lazy to read all of it), or Neo Earth may have to step down from it's claims of support.

Do not kill unless you have proof. Any proof, as long has you have any.
29-02-2004, 01:55
They still have their one week to get their sorry asses out of Dark Terror.
OOC:
Diwaniyah, yes I am racist against moslems. Because of people like you.
Neo Earth
29-02-2004, 01:57
Well then, we will continue to support you.
OOC:
Well, thats sad. being a rascist is just plain stupid.
Muktar
29-02-2004, 01:58
I find it very sad that some nations with crimes far less are invaded but this bigoted, hatred-based nation is allowed to live simply because some nations are too lazy or too scared to stand up to it. Like a huge coalition of Chamberlains against one Hitler. You all disgust me. Once our current crisis involving Dark Terror's ally, Russian Forces, is resolved, we will do anything in our power, possibly including being destroyed as a a nation to stop the horrors this bullying, evil nation is commiting.

Dark Terror and Russian Forces are allied? *Illegal political betting tables in Muktar suddenly recieve overwhelming bets against Dark Terror* Muktar will launch a propaganda campaign in Dark Terror's cities that have/had Muslim communities. Basic theme of campaign: Was Hitler not enough? Save the Muslims!
29-02-2004, 02:01
Well then, we will continue to support you.
OOC:
Well, thats sad. being a rascist is just plain stupid.
OOC:
You can thank every chechen, pakistani, palestinian, or bosnisn terrorist.
Feline
29-02-2004, 04:37
*TAG*

I don't have the time right now to write out a full roleplayed post of my attack. So it has not happend yet. Expect this post to be edited tommorow.
29-02-2004, 04:41
Was Hitler not enough? Save the Muslims!
Actually Hitler used Balkan Muslims to inflict retribution on Serbs and others for partisan attacks.
29-02-2004, 04:47
OOC:
Feline, there are easier ways of commiting suicide.

For the record-

Dark Terror's AWACS and radars will detect some shitty low flying blackhawk with spec ops. And it will be shot down.

Sending a few hundred planes against me simultaneously will only leave you down a few hundred planes. There are well over 10,000 SAM betteris thorughout Dark Terror.

Spec ops insertions by subs- dream on. Dark Terror has two very small coasts- the eastern one makes the atlantic wall look like a toy, and the wetsern one is relatively densely populated, sort of like Florida.

:roll:
Feline
29-02-2004, 04:50
OOC: Suicide? Hah! We are far larger than you, with more advanced technology. I am leaving all space stuff out of it (as I usually do), and we still have more advanced technologies, all but one are in the planning or prototype stages in real life (so you can't claim they are god-modding.)
29-02-2004, 05:03
OOC
Im a bit flexible. For those of us who like the experimental tech, we also have airborne lasers on Il-76's, sea skimming mach 4 ramjets, and some other technologies which I cant be bothered to remember. I dont use them against more modern tech countries, but in here, theyll find good use.
Feline
29-02-2004, 05:08
OOC: Good. We'll see who will win the war of technology, strategy, and sheer numbers on the morrow.

Goodbye, Bisons, until tommorow.

Oh, one more thing: The elite commandos nation... they were our best-of-the-best special forces, which we call *gasp* the elite commandos.
Helveticuz
29-02-2004, 12:49
Well then, we will continue to support you.
OOC:
Well, thats sad. being a rascist is just plain stupid.
OOC:
You can thank every chechen, pakistani, palestinian, or bosnisn terrorist.
OOC: Bosnian terrorists??! I never heard of bosnian terrorists, and many of my friends are from bosnia. None of them are anti-west.
29-02-2004, 13:16
OOC-Its ok to act like a hitler in IC..But even if you hate muslims oocly dont tell the world....And my friends muslim and i dought you understand a damned thing about there religion..allah is god in arabic and the same in maltese (my language) so in a prayer im CATHOLIC.we say allah because it means god it doesent mean some dude with 6 arms or something....People dont take the time to look up on the religion do they?
29-02-2004, 13:19
Well then, we will continue to support you.
OOC:
Well, thats sad. being a rascist is just plain stupid.
OOC:
You can thank every chechen, pakistani, palestinian, or bosnisn terrorist.
OOC: Bosnian terrorists??! I never heard of bosnian terrorists, and many of my friends are from bosnia. None of them are anti-west.

Hes right..The ONLY terrorists in Bosnia are the ones who support the former Yugoslavian goverment...Bosnians(serbs whatever) did NOT like yugoslavia...thats why the war remember? i have friends who had to be there and suffer through the civil war there(ALOT of Bulgarians,Libians,Bosnians everyone comes here basicly thats why i speak alot of Yugoslavian or Bosnian or whatever...)Хду оьсиуевв пщ оисехая! гьэе ь хсъе аьщ
Feline
29-02-2004, 15:33
OOC: Let's keep WMD out of this, just like we're keeping space-tech out of this. Both sort of screw up roleplay. And Catania-Marinov, I told people this before. I did not know it is also the word for God in Maltese... you learn something new every day.

IC:

The Elected Monarch, basically an easily recallable president-for-life with similar powers to the US President, was moved to the underground command center.

The Feline Council had approved war. The night of covert operations had ended, the day of open warfare had dawned.

The full might of Feline was mobilized. All troops beign deployed were marshalled onto magnetic levitation transport aircraft. They flew across the ocean, about one meter above. SAMs could not touch them. They were escorted by air superiority fighters and fighter-bombers.

Two Feline Naval Fleets were summoned out of port. These were to provide fire support.

The bombers and Devastators were being held back in Feline for now- too many SAMs to do their job. But once the SAM batteries were neutralized, hell from the air would be unleashed unto Dark Terror.

The target of this strike force: Dark Terror's worst-defended coastal city.

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OOC: Dark Terror, declare your total military and the amount that is currently on hand in your worst-defended coastal city. I will do the same for my forces.

Total Military

Ground Troops

Elite Commandos: 15,000
The best of the best.

Commandos: 150,000
Special forces, and when our normal troops are equivilent to special forces, you know these guys are good.

Troopers: 1,500,000
Standard Infantry, but trained at the level of standard US Special Forces.

Reserves: 5,250,000
Train one day every other week, two days every other week. Also train for one week every six months.

Ground and Hover Vehicles

(Magnetic Levitation hover vehicles only use a weak unit, only lifts it a meter at most off the ground usually.)

Tanks
Magnetic Levitation Main Battle Tank, Model III: 300
Being phased out of service, just like the M60 Patton tank in real life.

Magnetic Levitation Main Battle Tank, Model IV: 800
Already well established in service. Akin in role to the M1A2 in real life.

Magnetic Levitation Light Tank, Model IV: 900
Heavier than a Scout/Raiding vehicle, but lighter than a tank.

Infantry Fighting Vehicles, Armored Personnel Carriers, and other light combat vehicles
Magnetic Levitation Infantry Fighting Vehicle, Model IV: 400
Used to carry infantry into very-high-enemy-fire zones, and provide fire support when it gets there. Equivilent in role to a M2 Bradley in real life.

Magnetic Levitation Armored Personnel Carrier, Model IV: 700
A simple "battle taxi." Equivilent in role to the M113 in real life.

Magnetic Levitation Scout/Raiding Vehicle, Model V: 1,000
Lighter armor and weaponry than an MBT. Provides direct firepower to infantry who ride in on APCs (as they have no heavy weapons) and scouts out the battlefield. Also used for quick raids. Equivilent in role to the way the UK uses the Alvis Scorpion/Scimitar.

Wheeled/Tracked Multipurpose Vehicle, Model VIII: 5,000
This vehicle is ued when it would be a waste of electricity to power up an electromagnetm, or when it would be unwise. Can be fitted modularly with either wheels or tracks, and a variety of other modular mounts.

Cargo Vehicles
Magnetic Levitation Combat Cargo Vehicle, Model II: 780
Basically a cargo truck, but with magnetic levitation.

Wheeled Rear Area Cargo Vehicle, Model VII: 1,500
A large cargo truck.

Wheeled Light Rear Area Cargo Vehicle, Model VIII: 2,000
A small cargo truck.

Artillery Batteries

Magnetic Levitation Multiple Launch Rocket System, Model V: 300
Akin in role to the normal United States MLRS.

Wheeled Rail Gun Launcher Vehicle, Model II: 50
This gigantic vehicle has a signle railgun mounted on it, launching shells great distances at high speeds.

Aircraft

(These use a much stronger magnetic levitation unit. A Devastator is a new class of bomber, designed specifically to take out large installations. Tactical Aircraft=Helicopter Replacements)

Interceptors
80 Magnetic Levitation Interceptor, Model VIII
Used to intercept and shoot down incoming bombers.

40 Magnetic Levitation Interceptor, Model VII
Used to intercept and shoot down incoming bombers. Being phased out of service.

Fighters and Fighter-Bombers
200 Magnetic Levitation Air Superiority Fighter, Model VII
A pure air superiority fighter with very limited ground attack capability. Equivilent in role to the US F-15 Fighter.

260 Magnetic Levitation General Purpose Fighter-Bomber, Model VII
A very excellent multi-role aircraft. Equivilent in role to the US F-16 Fighter.

Bombers
60 Magnetic Levitation Bombers, Model VII
Bombers... not much more to it.

20 Magnetic Levitation Devastators, Model I
See note at the beginning of the aircraft section.

Cargo Aircraft
100 Magnetic Levitation Cargo Aircraft, Model VI
Akin in role to a C-5 Galaxy.

160 Magnetic Levitation Cargo Aircraft, Model V
Akin in role to a C-130 Hercules

Tactical Aircraft
300 Magnetic Levitation Tactical Fire-Support Aircraft, Model VII
Akin in role to an attack helicopter.

400 Magnetic Levitation Tactical Transport, Model V
Akin in role to a utility or cargo helicopter.

Naval Vessels

(Submersible Vessel is a term we use for a submarine that is equally capable above or below the water.)

Feline Navy
5 Atlantic Class Submersible Vessels
Serve as flagships for each of the five naval fleets.

20 Tuna Class Submersible Vessels
The backbone of the navy.

10 Feline Class Battleships
Two are assigned to each of the five fleets to provide heavy firepower.

15 Liberty Class Frigates
Provide general coastal patrol, blockading, and denial of the seas missions. Three are assigned to each fleet.

25 Catnip Class Corvettes
Support the Liberty Class Frigates. Five are assigned to each fleet.

50 Defender Class Patrol Boats
Used when extra ships are needed for a mission. Ten are assigned to each fleet.

Feline Coastal Patrol Force

1 Liberty Class Frigate
Provides heavy firepower for interdiction missions.

10 Catnip Class Corvettes
Used when a ship is needed that is larger than a patrol boat.

40 Defender Class Patrol Boats
Coast guard cutters.

Composition of the Strike Force

Ground Troops

Elite Commandos: 10,000
The best of the best.

Commandos: 100,000
Special forces, and when our normal troops are equivilent to special forces, you know these guys are good.

Troopers: 1,250,000
Standard Infantry, but trained at the level of standard US Special Forces.

Reserves: 4,000,000
Train one day every other week, two days every other week. Also train for one week every six months.

Ground and Hover Vehicles

(Magnetic Levitation hover vehicles only use a weak unit, only lifts it a meter at most off the ground usually.)

Tanks

Magnetic Levitation Main Battle Tank, Model IV: 500
Already well established in service. Akin in role to the M1A2 in real life.

Magnetic Levitation Light Tank, Model IV: 750
Heavier than a Scout/Raiding vehicle, but lighter than a tank.

Infantry Fighting Vehicles, Armored Personnel Carriers, and other light combat vehicles
Magnetic Levitation Infantry Fighting Vehicle, Model IV: 300
Used to carry infantry into very-high-enemy-fire zones, and provide fire support when it gets there. Equivilent in role to a M2 Bradley in real life.

Magnetic Levitation Armored Personnel Carrier, Model IV: 600
A simple "battle taxi." Equivilent in role to the M113 in real life.

Magnetic Levitation Scout/Raiding Vehicle, Model V: 800
Lighter armor and weaponry than an MBT. Provides direct firepower to infantry who ride in on APCs (as they have no heavy weapons) and scouts out the battlefield. Also used for quick raids. Equivilent in role to the way the UK uses the Alvis Scorpion/Scimitar.

Wheeled/Tracked Multipurpose Vehicle, Model VIII: 3,000
This vehicle is ued when it would be a waste of electricity to power up an electromagnetm, or when it would be unwise. Can be fitted modularly with either wheels or tracks, and a variety of other modular mounts.

Non-Combat Cargo Vehicles
Magnetic Levitation Combat Cargo Vehicle, Model II: 500
Basically a cargo truck, but with magnetic levitation.

Wheeled Rear Area Cargo Vehicle, Model VII: 750
A large cargo truck.

Wheeled Light Rear Area Cargo Vehicle, Model VIII: 1,250
A small cargo truck.

Artillery Batteries

Magnetic Levitation Multiple Launch Rocket System, Model V: 250
Akin in role to the normal United States MLRS.

Wheeled Rail Gun Launcher Vehicle, Model II: 10
This gigantic vehicle has a signle railgun mounted on it, launching shells great distances at high speeds.

Aircraft

(These use a much stronger magnetic levitation unit. A Devastator is a new class of bomber, designed specifically to take out large installations. Tactical Aircraft=Helicopter Replacements)

Fighters and Fighter-Bombers
60 Magnetic Levitation Air Superiority Fighter, Model VII
A pure air superiority fighter with very limited ground attack capability. Equivilent in role to the US F-15 Fighter.

100 Magnetic Levitation General Purpose Fighter-Bomber, Model VII
A very excellent multi-role aircraft. Equivilent in role to the US F-16 Fighter.

Cargo Aircraft
80 Magnetic Levitation Cargo Aircraft, Model VI
Akin in role to a C-5 Galaxy.

100 Magnetic Levitation Cargo Aircraft, Model V
Akin in role to a C-130 Hercules

Tactical Aircraft
200 Magnetic Levitation Tactical Fire-Support Aircraft, Model VII
Akin in role to an attack helicopter.

350 Magnetic Levitation Tactical Transport, Model V
Akin in role to a utility or cargo helicopter.

Naval Vessels

(Submersible Vessel is a term we use for a submarine that is equally capable above or below the water.)

Feline Navy
2 Atlantic Class Submersible Vessels
Serve as flagships for each of the five naval fleets.

8 Tuna Class Submersible Vessels
The backbone of the navy.

4 Feline Class Battleships
Two are assigned to each of the five fleets to provide heavy firepower.

6 Liberty Class Frigates
Provide general coastal patrol, blockading, and denial of the seas missions. Three are assigned to each fleet.

10 Catnip Class Corvettes
Support the Liberty Class Frigates. Five are assigned to each fleet.

20 Defender Class Patrol Boats
Used when extra ships are needed for a mission. Ten are assigned to each fleet.
29-02-2004, 15:49
OOC:

Military (posting it out in great detail would take half the day)

-100,000 tanks
-50,000 APC's
-65,000 IFVs

Er...

Rest is probably too long to list.

Ill respond to your post once you tell me how big these levitation things are. Closest thing IRL is the LCAC
http://www.chinfo.navy.mil/navpalib/factfile/ships/pel-lcac.gif

As flying 1 meter off the sea when youre the size of a mountain doesnt help much, your levitation transports will get blown to hell.
29-02-2004, 17:05
OOC:
Understood from your previous post, these are C-5 Galaxys flying at 1 meter.
IC
A-50 AWACS detected the transports with ease due to look-down radar, prompting S-500 batteries throughout the coast to engage them (2 missiles per transport plane). Each S-500's other 2 missiles (the launcher has 4 missiles) were used against the fighters.


MiG-37's and JF-20's were scrambled to engage the aircraft as well. As the aircraft moved within 140 miles of the fighters, AA-13 Arrow (a deep upgrade of the RL AA-13...) missiles were used to engage and hopefully dstroy them long before AMRAAM range :lol:
OOC:
S-500 is a lovely fire and forget SAM with a range of 400km/250 miles. It is a multi stage SAM, with the final stage having technologies like thrust vectoring to ensure a kill.
Skager
29-02-2004, 17:52
The Dominion of Skager announces their support for Feline and their condemnation of Dark terror's acts. The killing of any person, no matter their religion or race, for speaking out against an obviously evil establishment is a violation of all human rights and free speech codes in existance. The Dominion of Skager will fight for others to be able to have these rights.

As of now, Skager military forces are scrambling to combat posistions in aid of Feline. Availible forces are listed below:

Air Force

3000 Commanche attack choppers
2000 B-52 bombers
3000 JSFs
2000 F-22 Raptors
1500 Dijin fighters.
250 F-42s. stats @ http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2511172#2511172

Army
35,000,000 Regulars
20,000,000 Sword battle suits
10,000 Vigilance light tanks.
15 Colossus guns.
1000 VA-11 tanks.
50 Spartan soldiers.
2,000,000 BROADSWORD
2,000,000 JUNO

We place ourselves under the command of Feline's generals. Use our forces as you see fit in the effort to obtian freedom, but understand that the Skager Armed Forces remain under ultimate control of their generals.
29-02-2004, 18:05
OOC: Okay, what about your forces in your worst-defended coastal city?

And also, some of them are the about the size of a C-130 (a little larger), some slightly larger than a C-5. I said the role was similar, though. Also, there are some tactical transports, about the size of a Blackhawk or Puma. They carry 13, plus two crew.

IC: On the bridge/cockpit of the command craft in the flight group, a warning alarm went off. Commander Fluffy Zain of the Feline Air Force tapped a few buttons on her command console. She adjusted her headset, and said, "All troops on all aircraft, helmets on! Helmets on! Get to the closest door, and bail out! All aircraft slow down! Fighters, evasive manuvers!"

The aircraft slowed to a stop, and the troops jumped out en masse. Most of them made it out in time, but there were still casualties. Zain and her crew ejected in time as well. A a few transports made it out, and swiftly turned around to avoid a second volley.

Lt. Major Christopher Clark was one of the last out. He was in his waterproof battlesuit, just as all the others were. He had his helmet on. The rebreather could last him and his troops for a while as they swam into rescuers. He fell into the water. He began to sink. The suits were lightweight, but not exactly floatable. He started kicking up as hard as he could, and got onto the surface. He quickly said, "Inflate life preserver!" The suit swelled up, with air filling it up. He then said, "Infantry Squad 348, regroup around my location!" He looked through his in-helmet viewscreen through the other people's cameras in his unit. "Team, it looks like we lost Cooper in the attack. His camera shows a wreckage filling with water, but the helmet's not on his head. It's still on the racks."

Similar dialogues and procedures were repeated throughout the army.

Some of the fighters got away when they engaged their countermeasures, although most were downed. They were disabled, but safety systems could keep them afloat for a little less than an hour. Crew got out quickly.

The tactical transports, untargeted probaly due to their small passenger capacity, lowered themselves further and began to overload themselves with survivors. Once they were full, they turned around to the naval fleet.

The tactical fire support aircraft, also untargeted, also turned around to the fleet.

Aboard the F.S. Atlantic, the flagship of the whole effort, and along with the other ships, carrying all the heavy weaponry, lagged behind the aircraft with the other two fleets. Aboard it, General Eric Jacobs cycled through troops helmet cameras. "Increase speed, and no, Peters, I don't care if we risk damaging the bloody engines! We have got to get there and rescue the ones the tactical transports can rescue and the pilots. Tell the surface ships to get ready to recieve casualties, and pull into that uninhabited island over there. We have to regroup, and wait for our allies to help. (OOC: That's right, the UnAPS is ready for you.) We lost a lot of good beings today."

The Atlantic and the other submersible vessels continued sailing on, while the surface ships pulled into the island.

"Sir, we are recieving a transmission from Skager." "Skager?" "Yes, sir, they are supporting us. Their forces are at your disposal."

"Tell them to get a ten million infantry, and a million of their vigilence tanks to the island. We will build a temporary base there and when we are ready, take the city like we planned to and use it as a foothold in Dark Terror. Transmit our battle plan to them."

------------------

Back in Feline, the factories started up heavy production of transports, fighters, etc.
HPSauce
29-02-2004, 18:05
Though our army is small we would also like to pledge a portion of our armed forces, under the command of Feline, to aid in the war against Dark Terror.

We can provide the following:

100,000 Genetically Boosted Elite Guard
500,000 Regular soldiers comprising of:
300,000 Grunts
100,000 Heavy Weapons Specialists
50,000 Medics
50,000 Communications and admin

50,000 HPSaucian Heavy Armour Tanks
50,000 HPSaucian Light Assault Vehicles
5000 Commanche Attack Helicopters
29-02-2004, 18:07
"More support coming in... from the nation of HPSauce."

"Forces?"

"Being transmitted to your console now sir."

"Thank them, and transmit them the battle plan, and tell them to get their forces to the island.
Feline
29-02-2004, 18:08
Um, RegaleCorp is my puppet... :oops:

I've made almost every form of government except a corporation... and now I have.
29-02-2004, 18:09
tag
29-02-2004, 18:10
tag(for now)
Feline
29-02-2004, 18:13
OOC: Glad to see I'm not the only one making a puppet mistake. :)

I started writing this when Rumania had not posted. I told you you should have taken my offer to be in my nation...

IC:

"Support coming in from the Don Cossacks. They're risking their whole nation, now that they're in Rumania."

"Excellent. Tell them to join us on the island."

"Sir, we're approaching the survivors."

"Get right next to them, and have all ships surface and open all hatches. Be quick about it, before they fire off some of those SAMs that can hit something a meter above the ground... d*mn they've got good SAMs. We'll be revealing our position, but we have to. There's over a million troops in those waters..."

The ships executed their orders, and picked up the survivors. They quickly turned around and headed for the island, hoping the Dark Terror navy had not gotten a good fix on their position, and resumed silent running.
29-02-2004, 18:19
OOC:
Turning around will do squat against S-500's, especially when its a lardass transport thats turning around!
IC:
A second volley of missiles is fired at eney planes or transport that MIRACULOUSLY survived the first volley.
OOC:
10 million troops are worth squat if you cant get em to invade me! :lol:
Iuthia
29-02-2004, 18:20
OOC: Telegram Feline, it's not important so carry on for the time being.
29-02-2004, 18:21
DT for now I'm sending 80 BR-7 Anti-shipping aircraft to help you repel an invasion
Feline
29-02-2004, 18:22
OOC: Countermeasures defeated a small number of missiles, letting a very small amount of transports get away.

IC: "Missiles, coming at us fast!"

"What's they're speed?"

(OOC: I need to know what their speed is to see if mine can out-do it. If it is a real missile (I think I heard the name somewhere) give me a link to confirm it.)
29-02-2004, 18:25
OOC:
S-500 is based on the S-400, only its far more agile and such to engage aircraft.

Alright, some aircraft got away, but dont get the impression they landed on Bisonic soil!

Missile speed is mach 4...
Feline
29-02-2004, 18:30
OOC: They didn't. All the forces are regrouping.

IC:

"Mach four, sir."

"We'll lose a lot of range, but energize the hyper-jet subsystems."

"Yes, sir. Accelerating to Mach Six."
29-02-2004, 18:34
OOC:
Uhmm, mach 6 at low altitude? :lol:
29-02-2004, 18:35
at realllllllllyyyyy low altitude...
29-02-2004, 18:37
OOC:
Id bet that the G forces would kill the crew. A seagull colliding with it would kill it as well :lol:
29-02-2004, 18:46
OOC:
You have a flagship? Well see about that
IC:
3 Oscar 3 SSNs popped open their missile hatches with a metallic thud, preparing to engage the flagship of Felines agression against Dark Terror. With the pressing of a few more buttons, each sub launched 24 Yakhont-4 SSMs against the ship (for those of us who cant count thats 72 total), which flew straight up into the air for a few seconds, before descending slightly to the low altitude flight profile at mach 1.5 that would take them to Felines ship. In the final attack stage, they would deliever 350kg warheads while moving at mach 2.5 and making S shaped turns to avoid CIWS fire. For good measure, they are armored against 20mm Phalanx CIWS systems.
29-02-2004, 18:51
Classified Location inside the Romanian Empire
the Control crew watched as the 5 BR-33's were launched down their rails each bieng propelled by 800 tons of boost from massive rockets. They would then ascend to 5000ft and engage the onboard rocket engines producing approximately 150 tons of thrust. Their maximum altitude will be 175 miles above the earth's surface flying at 14,000mp/h heading for Feline's fleet each armed with 2 10,000lb precision guided bombs.

(where I got the idea:
http://www.luft46.com/misc/sanger.html)
Euroslavia
29-02-2004, 18:56
The President, Roger Lawrence of Euroslavia, walked up to the podium.

"Today, our allies, Dark Terror, have been declared war upon, by Feline and their alllies. This is up to him, and we will always stand by our ally when they are invaded unjustly. He has every right to do what he feels is best for his nation. We will fight beside him to repel the invaders, as he would have done the same for us in any circumstance."

The President was short with his speech, but he was firm in his decision. Euroslavia was going to war with Feline and their allies.


First Imperial Legion
2 million Imperial troops equipped with XR-2 Assault Rifles w/Grenade Launchers
800 T-O8 Vatutin Main Battle Tanks
1,000 Milan Anti-Tank Guided Missiles
200 Plasma Grenades
8 Euroslavic Class 2 Carriers
4 CVN 77 Carriers

Second Imperial Legion
1.5 million Imperial troops equipped with MP5A3 Submachine Guns
655 T-O8 Vatutin Main Battle Tanks
200 Sirius MkI Battle Tanks
950 Milan Anti-Tank Guided Missiles
200 Plasma Grenades
6 Euroslavic Class 2 Carriers
4 CVN 77 Carriers

Third Imperial Legion
1.5 million Imperial troops equipped with AS Assault Rifles
700 T-O8 Vatutin Main Battle Tanks
200 Orion MkI Main Battle Tanks
800 Milan Anti-Tank Guided Missiles
100 Plasma Grenades
6 Euroslavic Class 2 Carriers
4 CVN 77 Carriers

Fourth Imperial Legion
1.5 million Imperial troops equipped with XR-2 Assault Rifles
900 T-O8 Vatutin Main Battle Tanks
200 SsT Light Tanks
1,000 Milan Anti-Tank Guided Missiles
200 Air Defense Anti-Tank Systems
6 Euroslavic Class 2 Carriers
4 CVN 77 Carriers


Navy
15 Ticonderoga Cruisers
2 Seal Class Destroyers
2 Delta Class Submarines
15 Ares Class LCAC
10 Freedom Class Aircraft Carriers
5 Lutjens Destroyers
8 Iowa Class Battleships
6 Seawolf Class Attack Submarines w/2 Mantas
20 SSN-21 Seawolf Submarines


Each Legion will be sent in waves to defend Dark Terror territory. The First Imperial Legion will be sent immediately. The rest are being mobilized as of right now. The Navy will escort the First Imperial Legion.
Artitsa
29-02-2004, 18:56
4 Artitsan Fleets are moving to cover Dark Terror's coast line, each fleet has 4 TAMDs (Theatre AIR/MISSILE Defence Systems) so a grand total of 16 TAMD's are covering the coast from any airborne attack. A-50 AWACs are in the air constantly with a escort of three MiG-37's per A-50.

The Artitsan Ocean wall is now on high alert. Any hostile ship within 550km of the Coast will be fired upon by Mukha Anti-Shipping missiles and 800km range AM-98K's. All S-500's are on high alert as well. Many airbases have their crews on Alert 5.

Two Sub groups are now moving silently towards the Feline surface fleet. Any ASW helicopter will be shot down by SA-N-11.

ooc:
Sub Group:
6 Wolverine SSN's
4 AMS-84 SSN's
2 Oscar IV's SSN's
2 Taganrog Land Attack Subs
2 Jaeger SSN's
1 Borei SSBN (with conventional missiles)
1 Walrus Supply Sub
29-02-2004, 18:59
how many americans has terrorism killed (in 2001, the highest number ever)? about 3,000
how much money do we spend on the war on terrorism (including the sidewar in Iraq)? so far, $100,000,000,000 and sure to keep growing.

how many americans did cancer kill in 2001? 8,000,000
how much money do we spend on curing cancer? $2,700,000,000

how many americans died of heart disease in 2001? 13,500,000
how much money do we spend on curing heart disease? $999,000,000

if one of you ignoramuses wants to explain this inanity to me, i would feign to listen. actually, no i would not because i am sure that you would just continue to spit ignorant, racist views. anyone that has ever been to the middle east, or anyone that knows anything about arab, muslim, or any other culture in the world of which you idiots are completely in the dark, would think you the lowest form of life on earth. if anyone should be rounded up and put in gulags, it is you closed-minded morons. is it that difficult to accept that some people might want different things out of life. are your penises so small that hating and killing people that disagree with you is the only way to satisfy your inferiority complex?

i swear you are worthless.
29-02-2004, 19:01
OOC:
I dont care about the diverse culture of the suicide bombers. That they go around murdering others is bad enough.
29-02-2004, 19:19
OOC:
I dont care about the diverse culture of the suicide bombers. That they go around murdering others is bad enough.

For your inability to see the forest through the trees, The Internationale will vote on entering this war to wipe your dispicable nation off the face of the earth. Will return shortly.
29-02-2004, 19:35
OOC:
Problem- its the internaitonale that will get blown to hell instead.
The Macabees
29-02-2004, 19:35
The Macabees supports its ally Dark Terror in this action against the horrible Muslim terrorist who spawn such horrible deeds of destruction.
HPSauce
29-02-2004, 19:40
Dark Terror has talked about conducting Genocide on its muslim population. This time the end most certainly does not justify the means. Indeed Dark Terror is a terrorist state itself (ie. a nation which uses terror and violence to oppress its citizens)
29-02-2004, 19:41
Dark Terror has talked about conducting Genocide on its muslim population. This time the end most certainly does not justify the means. Indeed Dark Terror is a terrorist state itself (ie. a nation which uses terror and violence to oppress its citizens)
We have given our moslem population one week to get out of Dark Terror. Maybe instead of bombing us youd send planes to pick them up, but its all your choice.
HPSauce
29-02-2004, 19:43
Fine. We offer asylum to the migrant Muslim population of Dark Terror. Though background checks will have to be conducted first. We do not want terrorists in our nation.
29-02-2004, 19:44
Or maybe, like a civilized nation, you would allow freedom of religion.
29-02-2004, 19:45
Fine. We offer asylum to the migrant Muslim population of Dark Terror. Though background checks will have to be conducted first. We do not want terrorists in our nation.
Great minds think alike...
29-02-2004, 19:46
Or maybe, like a civilized nation, you would allow freedom of religion.
Or maybe, when the Imams at prayer urge terrorist actions against the "infidel regime" we wont.
HPSauce
29-02-2004, 19:46
Fine. We offer asylum to the migrant Muslim population of Dark Terror. Though background checks will have to be conducted first. We do not want terrorists in our nation.
Great minds think alike...

Yes but while we conduct progressive programmes and check immigrants, you threaten to commit genocide. They aren't quite on the same level.
29-02-2004, 19:48
Well anyway, choose the ones you want, and utter a prayer for the ones you dont.
29-02-2004, 19:51
The Socialist Republic of Faudel will take all Muslims that either do not wish to go to HPSauce or are rejected by the HPSauce government.
29-02-2004, 19:53
They wouldnt be urging attacks against infidel regimes if you hadn't oppressed them in the first place, genius.
The Gulf States
29-02-2004, 20:04
DT: Would you be interested in picking up a license to have your own version of the popular TV series: F4A. It would go very nicely in your nation's crisis - and makes a nice ratings grabber and DVD/VHS boom market with the sadist crowd.
29-02-2004, 20:05
Cossacks- Nobody made them live in DT. If they really hated life they could save up and get a flight to some hellhole like Feline.
TGS- Sure.
Euroslavia
29-02-2004, 20:08
Just to let you all know....


The Euroslavic First Legion, along with the Navy escorts, have arrived at the Eastern Coast of Dark Terror, and are currently deploying themselves to protect DT territory.
The Gulf States
29-02-2004, 20:08
Here's the object of F4A. Basically, you imprison random people - or in your case the Muslims. Set them in a pit with a bulletproof glass roof. Put cameras inside. And let all carnage ensue. It's like a paintball court, with hiding spots/barriers - only with guns and other combat weapons. Double handed battle axes, axes, grenades, rope.
29-02-2004, 20:08
Somehow I doubt these Muslims are first-class citizens that can just order a flight to another nation whenever they please.

Second of all, they should not have to live under an oppressive regime anyways.
29-02-2004, 20:25
They DONT have to live in DT. Travel out of DT is very free and easy for all citizns. You dont want to live here, get your sorry ass out!

Euroslavic troops are being moved to the western coast by rail, where they will join the Bisonic 1st army.
29-02-2004, 20:28
OOC:
I dont care about the diverse culture of the suicide bombers. That they go around murdering others is bad enough.

For your inability to see the forest through the trees, The Internationale will vote on entering this war to wipe your dispicable nation off the face of the earth. Will return shortly.


The Internationale Federation of Tree Hugging wankers?
Feline
29-02-2004, 20:38
Transmission to Dark Terror: This settlement is acceptable to us. As long as you retract your comment calling us a hellhole, or at least explain why your nation is a better place to live.

Secret tranmission to our allies:

Could we please place soldiers on the flights going in to pick up the refugees? Dark Terror must be stopped, he does things like this all the time, he is a tyrannical dictatorship with no respect for life at all.

We have tried covertly many times before, and failed. This is the best chance fo the world to be rid of Dark Terror.
Iuthia
29-02-2004, 20:39
Just to let you all know....


The Euroslavic First Legion, along with the Navy escorts, have arrived at the Eastern Coast of Dark Terror, and are currently deploying themselves to protect DT territory.

We are afraid that because we were unaware of this alliance with Dark Terror your nation we will now have to remove your nation from the "Trusted Nations" listing we have... that does not mean to say we have closed any embassies... or removed any diplomatic immunities, but it just means you wouldn't get the advantages that nations listed in green normally get.

Iuthia has long been against nations such as Dark Terror and we are slightly curious as to why you would support a nation that enslaves christians and has been known to commit acts of genocide.

None the less this is the formal indication of our actions and we will not pursue this matter any more unless you would like to open discussions or explanations.

http://www.nationstates.net/images/flags/uploads/iuthia.jpg

Lord General deGritz, leader of the Iuthian people.
Urbanites (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=display_region/region=Urbanites)

Recent News in Iuthia (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=83886&highlight=)
OOC Information on Iuthia (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=109898&highlight=)
29-02-2004, 20:45
Feline- We will bring the Moslems to the airport under military escort. You will pick them up.
29-02-2004, 20:46
Could we please place soldiers on the flights going in to pick up the refugees? Dark Terror must be stopped, he does things like this all the time, he is a tyrannical dictatorship with no respect for life at all.

That's not very wise, as soon as the soldiers reveal themselves the planes and the muslims will be blown away faster than you can say "praise allah"
Feline
29-02-2004, 20:58
OOC: You don't know about in IC, A, and B, the Dark Terror soldiers will be incapacitated faster than you can say "Opressive Regime."

Trust us... all we need in permission from the HPSauce government.

And an explantion or apology from Dark Terror over the hellhole comment.
HPSauce
29-02-2004, 20:58
Transmission to Dark Terror: This settlement is acceptable to us. As long as you retract your comment calling us a hellhole, or at least explain why your nation is a better place to live.

Secret tranmission to our allies:

Could we please place soldiers on the flights going in to pick up the refugees? Dark Terror must be stopped, he does things like this all the time, he is a tyrannical dictatorship with no respect for life at all.

We have tried covertly many times before, and failed. This is the best chance fo the world to be rid of Dark Terror.

Private Transmission:

We are reluctant. The risks are certainly great, and we do not wish to see innocent people harmed. Thus we shall send a few too many planes. Some of which can contain soldiers. Once the others have departed we recommend you stall, complaining of engine trouble, allowing the planes carrying refugees to escape first.
Feline
29-02-2004, 21:02
::DOUBLE POST::
Feline
29-02-2004, 21:02
Secrect Transmission: Agreed. We have developed a weapon (OOC: In the very early prototype stages in RL) which ionises the air, making it capable of carrying electricity, and either stunning or killing the person the beam is aimed at.

We have also developed devices which ionise the air over a wide area. If we can fit this to your aircraft, once they land, the air around them will be ionised. Then, another piece of equipment could discharge electricity through the air.

All we would need is for the planes to be made out of non-conductive materials.
29-02-2004, 21:17
Don't you think DT will be suspicious of the amount of time it's taking you? This is gonna be great.
Feline
29-02-2004, 21:18
OOC: Time its taking us to do what?
29-02-2004, 21:19
Well, if you had just straight up sent planes they would be there and loading by now
Feline
29-02-2004, 21:21
We're not sending planes until the "hellhole" comment is apoligized for or explained by Dark Terror.

OOC:

Pretty nice trick, huh? We anticipated this. I don't really care what Bisons thinks of my nation.
29-02-2004, 21:27
It's a interesting scheme although somewhat predictable. It would have been better to say that they had troops in them as they landed even secretly or OOCly because now if Dark Terror fights back he will most likely be labeled a godmodder. And about getting DT to apologize? Good luck!
Feline
29-02-2004, 21:34
OOC: He said they would be escorted by a military force.

That's why I also threw in the "Explain" loophole. He'll be glad to explain why he thinks his nation is better, so the mission can happen, just delayed.
Euroslavia
29-02-2004, 22:01
Just to let you all know....


The Euroslavic First Legion, along with the Navy escorts, have arrived at the Eastern Coast of Dark Terror, and are currently deploying themselves to protect DT territory.

We are afraid that because we were unaware of this alliance with Dark Terror your nation we will now have to remove your nation from the "Trusted Nations" listing we have... that does not mean to say we have closed any embassies... or removed any diplomatic immunities, but it just means you wouldn't get the advantages that nations listed in green normally get.

Iuthia has long been against nations such as Dark Terror and we are slightly curious as to why you would support a nation that enslaves christians and has been known to commit acts of genocide.

None the less this is the formal indication of our actions and we will not pursue this matter any more unless you would like to open discussions or explanations.

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Lord General deGritz, leader of the Iuthian people.
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We do not support the actions that Dark Terror has made, however, we do support Dark Terror as our ally. He's been there for us when no one cared about the future of our nation, therefore, we are in debt to him. As his ally, we can only hope to help his nation by having a sort of influence, as for him to change his stance on certain problems that plague this world today. We do not support genocide, and we never will, nevertheless, Dark Terror is our ally, and we will do all we can to support him. I hope you can understand where I am coming from.
29-02-2004, 22:04
OOC:
Feline, if were playing around with ion cannons and such, consider my light APCs to have laser cannons, as the US tested in 1979 a laser that could kill a helo at 900 meters. :lol: :twisted: :roll:

You do realize Ill shoot down the planes out of spite when they leave with the moslems?

Also, I have a little plan to deal with your troops. Hint- it has to do with chemical weapons.
IC
We will not apologize for the comment, and if you do not pick up our moslems, we could care less.
29-02-2004, 22:17
OOC:
Heres what I mean by military escort-

12 Gaz-39371 (sorta like humvee but better)
4 VO-100 light APC

4 Snipers overlooking the airport.
Iuthia
29-02-2004, 22:25
We do not support the actions that Dark Terror has made, however, we do support Dark Terror as our ally. He's been there for us when no one cared about the future of our nation, therefore, we are in debt to him. As his ally, we can only hope to help his nation by having a sort of influence, as for him to change his stance on certain problems that plague this world today. We do not support genocide, and we never will, nevertheless, Dark Terror is our ally, and we will do all we can to support him. I hope you can understand where I am coming from.

We understand, though we are still unhappy with it. It would seem that alot of nations are allied with Dark Terror because of old actions, though very few of them support his actions.

We will not further degrade our relations by taking any more steps backwards. We want to be friends... it's just that this will act as something of a barrier in relations, even though it will not be meantioned again.

Depending on the future we may re-instate "trusted nation" status to your nation, however for the time being we will bide our time and watch the outcome of these events.

Iuthia is allied with Feline through the UnAPS alliance, though we do not support Feline's war with Dark Terror directly... none the less they are our ally and as such we stand by them.

None the less it's time to look forward and not backward... we can only hope that things don't get any worse.

Thanks,

Lord General deGritz, leader of the Iuthian people.
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Lunatic Retard Robots
29-02-2004, 22:37
OCC: I'm going to do some Dr. Strangelove-based stuff here. I hope you don't mind it, DT.

IC:

On a small northern island in LRR, a wing of 10 of the new, and top-secret Falcon high-speed high-altitude bombers sit in their heavily reinforced subterranean bunkers, ready to be launched at a moment's notice. While their main purpose was to shoot down ICBMs, they could cary as many bombs as a B-52.

The base commander, Colonel Cathcart (Catch-22, FYI) paces around his desk at base. He was a devout, extremist moslem, but he had managed to keep this fact hidden from the LRR authorities.....until now. The actions of Dark Terror cause his anger to swell, to the point where he has made up his mind- Dark Terror will pay.

"Attention, all crews. Attention all crews, man your aircraft, I repeat, man your aircraft. Weapons crews, load all aircraft with fuel-air explosives and Napalm."

Bomber crews rush from their barracks down the stairs to the hangars, where they scurry into their aircraft. Arming crews quickly insert the pallets of the cigar-shaped fuel-air explosive bombs into the weapons bays of the 10 bombers. Within 5 minutes, the hangar is cleared. Crews wait for the base commander to tell them to stand down.

"Attention, all crews. Today, just one hour ago, the cities of Gotland, Newton, and Harrisburg were hit by nuclear weapons, launched unprovoked from the nation of Dark Terror. Millions have been killed."

The bomber crews are astonished, and angry.

"I'm sure you all know your mission. Good luck, and make the infidels pay for their crimes!"

The bomber crews, too angry to notice that he said "infidel" instead of "genocidal maniac" prepare for their mission. The rocket boosters are fitted to the sides of each aircraft.

"All crews, prepare for immediate launch. On my mark.....launch."

The bombers rocket out of the long track from their hangars and into the sky, the heavy rocket boosters lifting them to very high altitude. Soon, the base is barely discernable from the surrounding countryside.

At nearly 40 miles up, the rocket boosters quit out. Radio silence is enforced, as each bomber takes a different course to the coastal cities of Dark Terror.

"Booster release in five....four....three....two....release."

The two rocket boosters on each of the 10 bombers drop into the sea below. The RAMJET engines then take over, propelling the bombers at a steady mach 2 towards Dark Terror territory. Within several hours, they near Dark Terror waters......
29-02-2004, 22:39
Fine. We offer asylum to the migrant Muslim population of Dark Terror. Though background checks will have to be conducted first. We do not want terrorists in our nation.

The Internationale will take the muslim population of Dark Terror without any background checks. We do not care about terrorists that fight against Dark Terror. Any enemy of DT is a friend of The Internationale.
Brydog
29-02-2004, 22:47
DT, you are walking on a thin line mister. I kill only known nazis, you kill anyone who goes to these place that teach hate against your government. Maybe some of these people support the government. You are very close to me ordering attacks on you.

President Martin Breech
29-02-2004, 22:50
Order all the attacks youd like, Mr Martin Biatch.

Vladimir Zhirinovsky,
Foreign Minister of Dark Terror

Bisonic S-500 SAMs, A-60 airborne laser systems and MiG-37 high speed interceptors proceed to engage the LRR bombers...
29-02-2004, 22:52
OOC:
And frankly, I really wish that when I ask for a modern tech war, that some people would get the hint!
29-02-2004, 23:01
OOC:
I dont care about the diverse culture of the suicide bombers. That they go around murdering others is bad enough.

For your inability to see the forest through the trees, The Internationale will vote on entering this war to wipe your dispicable nation off the face of the earth. Will return shortly.


The Internationale Federation of Tree Hugging wankers?

Who is really the fool here?

Internationale is a noun, not an adjective.
Good work though.
We fully support your nation's hilarious misuse and incomprehension of language.
It provides excellent examples for our schoolchildren of proper and improper grammar.


Thank you,
Mr. Harassalot
Foreign ambassard of the Internationale (look, a noun... it's even a french noun)
Lunatic Retard Robots
29-02-2004, 23:02
OCC: Please ignore the last post.
29-02-2004, 23:19
OOC:
I dont care about the diverse culture of the suicide bombers. That they go around murdering others is bad enough.

For your inability to see the forest through the trees, The Internationale will vote on entering this war to wipe your dispicable nation off the face of the earth. Will return shortly.


The Internationale Federation of Tree Hugging wankers?

Who is really the fool here?

Internationale is a noun, not an adjective.
Good work though.
We fully support your nation's hilarious misuse and incomprehension of language.
It provides excellent examples for our schoolchildren of proper and improper grammar.


Thank you,
Mr. Harassalot
Foreign ambassard of the Internationale (look, a noun... it's even a french noun)
It was a joke you dumbass, I know what "The INternationale" is, is a commie song written in Paris in the 1870's, retard.

Want me to provide your schoolchildren with some examples of mushroom clouds?
29-02-2004, 23:33
It was a joke you dumbass, I know what "The INternationale" is, is a commie song written in Paris in the 1870's, retard.

Want me to provide your schoolchildren with some examples of mushroom clouds?


OOC: Are those your in character comments?

IC:
Dear Free Rumania,

The Internationale would not like you to provide our schoolchildren with any Mushroom Clouds; however, you are, of course, free to do as you see fit.

The Internationale does not fear your sniveling nation as any nation which would resort to threats of violence for having an insult retorted is clearly 1. Sub par by intelligence standards and 2. Clearly inferior when it comes to diplomatic and strategic ability.

Furthermore, the fact that the first action of your state is to insult and then to threaten makes the justification for your state highly suspect.
The Internationale would like to inform you that we are placing your nation on our Watch List. As, it seems highly likely that you have lost the mandate of your people, the only conceivable justification for a state.

Thank you,
Mr. Harassalot
Foreign Ambassador of the Internationale.
Euroslavia
29-02-2004, 23:35
This name calling crap is getting out of hand. I advise all nations involved in the War of Words to grow up. Thank you.
29-02-2004, 23:38
[Furthermore, the fact that the first action of your state is to insult and then to threaten makes the justification for your state highly suspect.

Worked for both the USSR and USA during the Cold War.


2. Clearly inferior when it comes to strategic ability.
Haha...I'm glad you believe that. You nitwits insulted us first. You've got me quivering in my boots with your "developing" economy.
FallschrimmJager
29-02-2004, 23:42
To the Governing body of Dark Terror,
The FallCorp. would like to extend-in the interest of international stability- A one time offer to use our Correctional Facilities (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=125628&highlight=) FREE of charge.
We can have a minimum of two Alcatraz Class transports to your waters in 24 hours.
We will jail the moslem terrorists so any threat would be our burden, and DT would suffer no further persucution from the International Liberal community. Our prison system is ever expanding, we would be happy to aid you in maintaining a safe nation, and a good reputation.
Please consider our offer.

CEO Erwin Bucholtz,
FallCorp.
Feline
29-02-2004, 23:44
OOC: Ionised Beam Weapons, not ion cannons. They render a current of air directly inbetween the emitter and the target able to carry electricity. Then, they dump electricity into it. Stun, kill, overload vehicle's circuts (as long as they have a metal exterior), they can do it all.

Question: How large was this laser, and could you provide a link (I'm not saying it can't be done, I'm just curious about the program.)

And as for your jeeps, what isn't better than a humvee.

IC: If you will not apoligize, we want an explanation of why you think your nation is better.

Also, if Dark Terror accepts the offer of the correctional facilities, we will not end our effort until the Mos/muslims are free.
29-02-2004, 23:45
Internationale Joint Liberation Force has moved the following force into international waters off the coast of Dark Terror:

2 aircraft carriers, each carrying 50 F117 Stealth fighters, 10 CH-46 Sea Knight Transport helicopters, and a squadron (12) of AH-1W Cobra Attack helicopters for Sea Knight security.

4 destroyers and 4 cruisers provide security to the aircraft carriers.

In addition, the 2 ILJF Marine Divisions have been activated. 10 AC130 gunships have been moved to the airports closest to Dark Terror and are on high alert.

Transmission to Dark Terror: This equipment is present as a precaution. The Internationale wants to end this peacefully by removing the Muslims that you want so dearly gone. If we are able to escort them to Zainfidel without incident, you will be happily rid of them, and we will be appeased by their safety. Please do not escalate your aggression beyond what is necessary.
01-03-2004, 00:07
OOC: Free Rumania, the name calling is, as someone else pointed out, really pointless. We actually have no reason for conflict in this matter, as it is a thread for Dark Terror.
I'm not going to even begin debating "who called who what first."

But, I would like to point out that Strefethen has no military, so our "developing" economy hardly factors into this.
The Internationale, a group currently consisting of 20 nations, has a Joint military force, making our military rather larger than Strefethen, as a whole, could ever hope to support.
In fact, Strefethen doesn't even contribute combat troops to the military, our forces serve solely in support roles.
I will consider this matter wholly closed unless you wish to continue it.
Now, back to the point of this thread.

IC:

Dark Terror, We have moved a small naval force to international waters near your territory.
Please, do not see this as an active attack on your nation.

We want solely to extricate your muslim population.
The force is there to ensure that we can do so in an effective and safe manner.
We would like to begin convoying your population which wishes to leave immediately.
You stated that any citizen of your state which wished to leave could do so, I believe saying that travel in and out of Dark Terror was extremely free and open.

We would like to begin sending in AC130 and/or CH-46 Sea Knight Transport helicopters, unarmed, and unescorted, to evacuate the muslim population of your nation which wishes to leave.
We will only do this with full authorization by your state.
And, any reasonable arrangements or assurances you need to feel safe in allowing our forces to conduct this evacuation can and will be met.

However, we would like to notify you that continued slaughtering of an innocent population will be regarded as an act of genocide, and furthermore an act which the Internationale will not stand for.

I pray that your state will see the reason of these actions and allow this matter to be resolved without further bloodshed.

Thank you,
Mr. Harassalot
Foreign Ambassador for the Internationale
Neo Earth
01-03-2004, 00:09
OOC: Damnit, bisons, why don't you call me when sh*t like this happens. Could I have a summary of the last 4 pages?
Euroslavia
01-03-2004, 00:19
Feline and a few other nations have threatened Dark Terror because he was gonna exterminate Islam in his country, but I guess that another nation is going to pick them all up and take them to their nation. I don't think the actual war has started, but I have sent troops to Dark Terror to help keep his nation safe. For the most part though, its been a lot of arguments.
Neo Earth
01-03-2004, 00:39
Feline and a few other nations have threatened Dark Terror because he was gonna exterminate Islam in his country, but I guess that another nation is going to pick them all up and take them to their nation. I don't think the actual war has started, but I have sent troops to Dark Terror to help keep his nation safe. For the most part though, its been a lot of arguments.

OOC: I could have guessed that last part. After all, this is bisons...

But, should you need it DT, I will help defend you.
Artitsa
01-03-2004, 01:20
OOC: Free Rumania, the name calling is, as someone else pointed out, really pointless. We actually have no reason for conflict in this matter, as it is a thread for Dark Terror.
I'm not going to even begin debating "who called who what first."

But, I would like to point out that Strefethen has no military, so our "developing" economy hardly factors into this.
The Internationale, a group currently consisting of 20 nations, has a Joint military force, making our military rather larger than Strefethen, as a whole, could ever hope to support.
In fact, Strefethen doesn't even contribute combat troops to the military, our forces serve solely in support roles.
I will consider this matter wholly closed unless you wish to continue it.
Now, back to the point of this thread.Dark Terror, We have moved a small naval force to international waters near your territory.
Please, do not see this as an active attack on your nation.

IC:
We want solely to extricate your muslim population.
The force is there to ensure that we can do so in an effective and safe manner.
We would like to begin convoying your population which wishes to leave immediately.
You stated that any citizen of your state which wished to leave could do so, I believe saying that travel in and out of Dark Terror was extremely free and open.

We would like to begin sending in AC130 and/or CH-46 Sea Knight Transport helicopters, unarmed, and unescorted, to evacuate the muslim population of your nation which wishes to leave.
We will only do this with full authorization by your state.
And, any reasonable arrangements or assurances you need to feel safe in allowing our forces to conduct this evacuation can and will be met.

However, we would like to notify you that continued slaughtering of an innocent population will be regarded as an act of genocide, and furthermore an act which the Internationale will not stand for.

I pray that your state will see the reason of these actions and allow this matter to be resolved without further bloodshed.

Thank you,
Mr. Harassalot
Foreign Ambassador for the Internationale

Remove your ships from the waters outside of Dark Terror or face its destruction and retaliation upon your homeland. Borei SSBN's stand ready to launch payloads into large populous centers of Strefethen.

If you do not move your fleet Three things will happen.
1.) I destroy your fleet from 500km away using Shore defences.
2.) I destroy your fleet from 800km away using fleets and submarine forces
3.) I launch ICBM's from my Submarines then proceed to annex your nation.

You have no right to be in our waters, and you have no room to negotiate or threaten. Leave now or be attacked. We do not fear your allies, we have our own. (More than 20, thats for sure.)
Super American VX Man
01-03-2004, 01:25
Due to our longstanding ties with Euroslavia, should war occur, we will assist the Dark Terror alliance.


http://www.angelfire.com/ns2/toxicvalley/images/ramel.gif
-General Irving Ramel
Minister of Law and Defense
01-03-2004, 01:27
OOC:
Feline, the site I got it from, jed.simonides.org , is down, but I can find another source if necessary, most likely.

Care to provide a link on the ion cannons?

Neo Earth, do jump in.
Neo Earth
01-03-2004, 02:37
OOC: Ok. Just 1 question:

How many forces? I can send anywhere from1 to 7 Legions (172,800 each)
01-03-2004, 02:38
Remove your ships from the waters outside of Dark Terror or face its destruction and retaliation upon your homeland. Borei SSBN's stand ready to launch payloads into large populous centers of Strefethen.

If you do not move your fleet Three things will happen.
1.) I destroy your fleet from 500km away using Shore defences.
2.) I destroy your fleet from 800km away using fleets and submarine forces
3.) I launch ICBM's from my Submarines then proceed to annex your nation.

You have no right to be in our waters, and you have no room to negotiate or threaten. Leave now or be attacked. We do not fear your allies, we have our own. (More than 20, thats for sure.)


Artista, what part of International Waters makes them "yours"?
If you are going to attack ships which are positions in International Waters, I fear it will be taken as unprovoked hostile action against a sovereign nation.

I believe in my post I attempted to make this incredibly clear, but I fear I was misunderstood.

Dark Terror, We are not in your waters, we are not threatening you. We don't want to threaten you in any way, we want, above all else, to ensure the primacy of human rights.

As such we have moved a small battallion of CONVOY SHIPS into International Waters near your nation in order to be able to begin evacuating your muslim population if you were to ALLOW us to do so.

Artitsa, please reconsider your position as I believe it was made under a misunderstanding of what our actions were.

Thank you,
Mr. Harassalot
Foreign Minister of the Internationale
01-03-2004, 02:39
OOC-Just send your best troops to my east coast. The plan is to use multinational groups of shock troops to drive any invasion back into the sea.

More fighters are always welcome, too.
Artitsa
01-03-2004, 02:40
ooc: Yes sorry, I misread. But you'd still be within range ;)

ic:
Enter Bisonic or Artitsan Waters under hostile intentions and we shall retaliate.
01-03-2004, 02:40
Strefethen, I'm just wondering what your interest is in saving these muslims. Considering what the factbook entry is for the Internationale:

World Factbook Entry: The Internationale is devoted to eradicating religion, capitalism, and dictatorship.
01-03-2004, 02:40
Strefethen- We will allow you to evacuate our moslems, apart from the ones due to be evacuated by plane in the mmediate future. It will be more efficient to evacuate them by ship.
Feline
01-03-2004, 03:34
OOC: Just interested in the technology, not challenging your having it. As for a link, there was a great article on a technology news site (beyond2000.com) that has unfortunately been taken down, probaly due to lack of revenue.

And also, they are Ionised Beam Weapons, NOT ion guns. The principle also makes sense: heat up air in a very thin current of air, to put it in a conductive state, through an ultraviolent laser. Then, dump electricity into it.

IC:

All we want is an explanation. Why is your nation a better place to live than ours?
01-03-2004, 03:41
Strefethen, I'm just wondering what your interest is in saving these muslims. Considering what the factbook entry is for the Internationale:

World Factbook Entry: The Internationale is devoted to eradicating religion, capitalism, and dictatorship.

Free Rumania, the Internationale is devoted to those three things, correct.
However, the eradication of religion does NOT involve the eradication of people, but rather that of ideas.
The primacy of human rights is the guiding principle of the internationale, and in fact, if you look at our region there is currently a split off from my own nation, strefethen, called "refugeedom." This nation formed when conservative, religious elements took hostage a small fishing cooperative located on an island off our main island's coast. We are still attempting to rectify that situation, and have convinced the majority of the split off cell that they wish to abandone the beliefs which made them originally spurn our nation.
We are sure that these refugees will see the light as well.

Dark Terror, I am turning over this evacuation operation to Olliephant, Supreme Allied Commander of the IJLF.
He will be handling matters from here on.

Thank you,
Mr. Harassalot,
Foreign Ambassador for the Internationale
Feline
01-03-2004, 03:41
OOC: Just interested in the technology, not challenging your having it. As for a link, there was a great article on a technology news site (beyond2000.com) that has unfortunately been taken down, probaly due to lack of revenue.

And also, they are Ionised Beam Weapons, NOT ion guns. The principle also makes sense: heat up air in a very thin current of air, to put it in a conductive state, through an ultraviolent laser. Then, dump electricity into it.

IC:

All we want is an explanation. Why is your nation a better place to live than ours?
01-03-2004, 04:01
Strefethen- We will allow you to evacuate our moslems, apart from the ones due to be evacuated by plane in the mmediate future. It will be more efficient to evacuate them by ship.

The Internationale is very happy that Dark Terror also wishes to avoid confrontation on this issue.

Let us know how many people are to be evacuated. We have 6 LPD Austin class amphibious transport docks prepared to enter your waters once we receive your expressed written consent, including maximum number of boats to be in your territory at a time, and any other restrictions you require.

Once we have received your acceptance, we will begin by sending one boat for publicity purposes and to assure you of our peaceful intentions, after which we will strictly abide by your orders in due course for removal of the Muslim population from Dark Terror to The Internationale region.

Thank you for your cooperation on this matter.
Feline
01-03-2004, 04:10
Private Transmission to Zainfidel:

We cannot reveal why, but please do not evacuate more than 85% of the refugees yet.
01-03-2004, 04:14
There were ~2 million moslems living in DT, all of whm are to be evacuated by the Internationale and Feline ASAP.
Artitsa
01-03-2004, 04:18
DT send whatever he doesn't pick up, up here. In fact, cancel out feline, and just send em up here. They can find work in the Northern Artitsan Mines. That way they can yell Allah-U-Ackbar as they run into the salt mines.
01-03-2004, 04:21
Secret IC:
Bisonic Spec Ops are being disguised as moslems. To hijack the planes and fly them into Feline ships.
01-03-2004, 04:27
24 MiG-45M's are bieng sent to Dark Terror to practice in joint training exercises with his Air Force
Neo Earth
01-03-2004, 04:38
The 1st, 7th, 8th, 13th, 14th, and 17th legions are being sent to Dark Terror. (thats around 1,020,600 soldiers) THey will be transported by a fleet (unless that's impossible).
01-03-2004, 04:40
Dark Terror thanks Neo Earth for its help, the troops will be shipped by rail to DT's Western coast.
Neo Earth
01-03-2004, 04:43
Dark Terror thanks Neo Earth for its help, the troops will be shipped by rail to DT's Western coast.

OOC: That works.

And, remember, no matter how much shit you say about my country, I wills till help you on NS (Maybe not WWX...)
01-03-2004, 04:53
There were ~2 million moslems living in DT, all of whm are to be evacuated by the Internationale and Feline ASAP.

We still need to know how many ships you want in your waters and on your beaches in order to carry out this operation. We need further details of your permission.

Supreme Allied Commander, IJLF
01-03-2004, 05:00
Secret Communication sent from Internationale Ambassador in Dark Terror and Olliephant:

Supreme Allied commander,
Although we have no confirmed evidence of it, we suspect that Dark Terror is not acting with full disclosure in this operation.
We recommend you take secret measures to ensure the safety of our military personell, our military equipment, and the refugees.


Ambassador Joan
Nianacio
01-03-2004, 05:00
I hope my new "islands" will not be affected by this conflict.
OOC: I didn't make a 'base completed' post because I never finished writing up the information, but they should be completed.
01-03-2004, 05:03
Secret Communication sent from Internationale Ambassador in Dark Terror and Olliephant:

Supreme Allied commander,
Although we have no confirmed evidence of it, we suspect that Dark Terror is not acting with full disclosure in this operation.
We recommend you take secret measures to ensure the safety of our military personell, our military equipment, and the refugees.


Ambassador Joan

Secret Commo from Olliephant to Ambassadors Joan and Harassalot:
100 counter terrorist elite troops have already been stationed in each transport ship to foil any underhanded activities.
Daamfeck
01-03-2004, 05:05
OOC: Define terrorism. That's all I have to say.
01-03-2004, 05:14
I hope my new "islands" will not be affected by this conflict.
OOC: I didn't make a 'base completed' post because I never finished writing up the information, but they should be completed.

Nianacio, this is a completely peaceful operation in which the Internationale is evacuating the muslim population of Dark Terror, as that nation had plans to execute them.

We would not make any attempt to interfere with your "islands" or bases or, well, anything to do with your nation.

Thank you,
Mr. Harassalot
Foreign Ambassador for The Internationale
01-03-2004, 05:48
OOC: Define terrorism. That's all I have to say.

OOC: was that addressed to me?

if so, then i have no comment. at the moment, terrorism is any violent act perpetrated against our rescue team by dark terror or any of his allies. that is why those troops are there. there will be no preemptive strike by these soldiers.
01-03-2004, 06:11
ooc: Zainfidel might add that in addition to that IC no one knows these guys are there. they are spec ops and undercover, blended perfectly into the crews of the ships.
much like ic we don't know dark terror has disguised his spec ops as muslims.
Feline
02-03-2004, 04:32
IC: Fine, we will accept the refugees without even a small explanation. Allow us to send in aircraft.
02-03-2004, 04:48
Land the planes.
02-03-2004, 08:35
The following report was printed on the first page of "Pravda Internationale" this morning:

"All hailed the arrival of the first transport ship to pick up the endangered Muslim refugees from Dark Terror. The first group, numbering about 1000, was loaded onto an LPD 4 Austin class transport ship and is presently heading to a nearby destroyer.

'We plan on bringing these sods to our land of Refugeedom, where we will be able to give them the necessary paperwork to bring them fully into compliance with Internationale requirements. From that point on, they are no longer my concern,' stated Olliephant, Supreme Allied Commander of IJLF."
Neo Earth
03-03-2004, 03:28
The Neonic Troops are willing to help deport the muslims. After all, we are in DT to defend it, not to kill the Muslims.
Feline
06-03-2004, 14:43
OOC: How many Mus/Moslems (I'm not sure which is correct, perhaps someone of that faith can inform me?) are in your nation?
Neo Earth
06-03-2004, 17:19
OOC: Woah...what happened to DT?
New bisons
06-03-2004, 17:38
OOC: Woah...what happened to DT?
OOC:
Take a quick guess :roll:

I had around 3 mil moslems. Take em away. And hurry up with having your spec ops pop out. Only keep in mind I have troops inside the VO-100 light APCs who wont really be affected by the ion guns.
Independent Hitmen
06-03-2004, 17:40
OOC: Woah...what happened to DT?

Im an idiot tell me!!!
New bisons
06-03-2004, 18:56
OOC: Woah...what happened to DT?

Im an idiot tell me!!!
:roll:
DEAT
Lunatic Retard Robots
07-03-2004, 01:20
Down with the horrible racist!!!!!1
08-03-2004, 19:38
OOC: How many Mus/Moslems (I'm not sure which is correct, perhaps someone of that faith can inform me?) are in your nation?

OOC: It is Muslim, because Arabic does not have an equivalent to an "o".
Feline
12-03-2004, 02:43
OOC: Are the APCs made of metal? If so, then the weapons can disable them and all the people inside.

IC:

Many assorted types transports, some military, some civilian, one hundred more than needed, flew towards New Bisons.

Inside the last 100 were troops, numbering 231,421 total. They were well armed, all with heavy battlesuits. Mounted on robotic carts programmed to follow the troops were various support weapons.

"This is Operation Free Crescent Leader requesting permission to land at airport."
New bisons
12-03-2004, 03:10
OOC:
Tight squeeze... 2300 troops per aircraft.

And no they wont really be affected, any ion guns in the near future as far as Im concerned are A big B weak. Sorta like computers, they start big and weak. Not some type of handheld device, not some type of tank killer.

Of course it wont really matter as Ill just gas or maybe nuke them and then gas the moslems.
Feline
12-03-2004, 03:56
OOC:

GET THIS INTO YOUR HEAD! THEY ARE NOT ION GUNS THEY ARE IONISED BEAM WEAPONS. THEY WORK AS SHOWN BELOW:

1. Something, typically for the guns, a ultraviolet laser, for the wide-area, something else, ionises (charges the atoms in it) the air, making it where it can conduct electricity.
2. Electricity is pumped either into the thin current of air made by the ultraviolet laser, or the wide area, causing either stunning, killing, or disruption of electrical circuts, based on the setting.

They have prototypes, large-backpack size (due to power storage concerns), in real life as of 2001 (not sure beyond that point). Feline's most advanced areas are power generation and storage and computers. So, we can make them down to pistol size.


And as for the "tight squeeze," don't you think Odysseus's troops were cramped in the horse in Homer's Illiad?

And you realize you can't nuke or gas these people? This is in your capital city. We established that earlier in the thread.
12-03-2004, 07:45
And you realize you can't nuke or gas these people? This is in your capital city. We established that earlier in the thread.

OOC: Well, if he wants to nuke himself, I won't object. hehe
Soviet Haaregrad
12-03-2004, 08:17
96% of the Pan-Haaregradian Council has voted to sever all ties with The Bisons.

This is the last straw, we can't allow our nation to be associated with this kind of bigotry and mass murder. Genocidal regimes are not the best friends, you can't trust a murderous nation to be an ally. We hope the Bisons people quickly rise up and destroy the government that oppresses them and others through out the world, to make the world a better place.

______________________________________________________________________
Vladimir Lenin III, President of Haaregradia
http://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/photo/1919/lenin.jpg
New bisons
12-03-2004, 21:55
OOC:
This isnt my capital, this is some military airport (or 100 military airports) throughout the country. I dont think you ever assumed that I would disrupt traffic around my capital for what are seen in New Bisons as subhumans?

Backpack sized? At least.

All my tanks and such are hardened against EMP pulse, should protect em against this shit too. But its aitplanes youll wory about, dropping nukes, chem weapons, and hugeass FAE weapons (they literally set the air on fire, ah, they fry troops very well. Extremey painful but brief)
Feline
13-03-2004, 03:37
OOC: Although I do recall you saying that it was in your capital, I will play along. I'm also assuming your air traffic controllers gave permission for them to land. I'll accept your tanks being hardened against EMP pulse as well.

IC:

The aircraft landed. Onto them filed some three million refugees. The aircraft took off, and quickly flew away. A few, however, lagged slowly. "This is Free Crescent 323. Some of our aircraft are experiencing problems with their quantum reactors, probaly due to a pocket of ionic particle continuity displacement they flew through. Our sensors can detect it, since we focus a lot of research in this area, but yours probaly cannot. We request permission to land. It will take less than five minutes to stabilize them. If we do not stabilize them, they could collapse due to the Johnson-Peters effect, causing a large area of zyatron-neutron particle disturbence, rendering it impossible to have any electron flow based technology, i.e. any electronic devices, within a hundred kilometers." said the pilot, spewing out so much fake jargon the other flight crew had to hold back laughs, which they did sucessfully. The enemy, not having knowledge of quantum rector physics, would accept it easily.
New bisons
13-03-2004, 03:49
OOC:
Only a few lagging aircraft? Whaddaya know using this method one can even land in a military airport around 20 miles from the capital (1 KT nuke wont affect the capital so youre still dead)
IC:
Boris turned to the guy next to him.
"Did you get any of that"
The only response was a puzzled face.
"Land the planes"
Feline
13-03-2004, 04:48
OOC: Are there any metal fuel storage tanks within a kilometer of the landing field? If so, those blew up. Electricity+petroleum products=explosion.

IC:

The one-hundred aircraft carrying the troops landed down at the military airport twenty miles from the capital. "We are stabilizing the reactors. We believe we can avoid the Johnson-Peters effect." said the pilot, all the while ionising the air.

He then flipped a switch. Something analogous to the mythical Johnson-Peters effect did take place... over a one-kilometer spherical area. Nothing electronic that was unshielded that was in contact with the air outside throug a conductive material would work. All people outside dropped dead from electrocution. "This is Free Crescent 323. The Johnson-Peters effect has occured on a small scale."

Suddenly, the troops began pouring out. Following them were small, LAW or RPG-7 like rocket launchers, support weapons analogous to machine guns, etc, on robotic trolleys programmed to follow the troops. All this had been protected from the ionisation from inside the aircraft. "Alright, troops, don't use your electricity based weapons until we get otu of the area of effect. Rely on the rocket launchers, the 20mm rocket pods built into your suits (Semi-OOC: There are four 20mm rockets, serving a similar purpose as the M203 does for US troops, in the battlesuits), and the tranq dart launcher in your suits."

They swarmed out. Some troops ran up to the carts with the rocket launchers, ready to use them against any EM-resistant vehicles that had escaped. The other troops readied their weapons pod on their suits. The quickly ran into a building nearby with an open window, ensuring that everyone inside was killed.
New bisons
13-03-2004, 17:27
OOC:
Practically everything in New Bisons is hardened against EMP pulse, protects against this too. Also, as I said before, as far as Im concerned they are quite weak, not some type of weapons that neutralize a whole area.
IC:
The guards in the VO-100 APC's were overwhelmed, but they did make calls on the radio explaining what had happened.

Soon, Su-39 attack aircraft were strafing the troops and dropping napalm, shock troops from near belgorod were surrounding the airport, JF-20 fighters were dropping masisve 5000kg FAE munitions, literally frying feline troops alive, and artillery began firing on the troops. TOS-1 MLRS systems fired FAE rockets at the enemy, and a call to the encircled imperialists was sent:

Surrender, or we will nuke you.
Feline
13-03-2004, 17:49
OOC: The troop's weapons work just like tasers, but with a theoretically infinate range (actually limited by when it his the curve of the earth), multiple settings, etc.

Treat these just like you would treat sniper rifles with a magazine of tranq darts and a magazine of normal bullets with a grenade launcher under the barrel (to explain the anti-vehicle properties).

Imperialists? Hardly. We intend to set up a democratic and free government in your country, then send it on it's way.

IC:

The troops that did not make it inside the buildings in time were killed easily. The troops stuck the rocket launchers out the windows, and began firing the homing missiles at the aircraft.

"Scanners are detecting a group of troops headed towards the airport. We should prepare ourselves for their assualt." said a young lieutenant to Colonel Sophia Zandar. "Get at least one troop to each window. Deploy all the rocket launchers first, followed by troops with the tranq darts."

Before they were destroyed, the crew of the transports ran out of them, carrying tranquilizer dart rifles, ready to help with the fight.

A few did not make it into the buildings in time, and were killed by the napalm, but most did.

"Also, mam, they are threatening to bomb us with a nuclear warhead."

"Send a message to them: "We're 20 kilometers from your capital. Radiation fallout would be enormous. So frankly, this is just a bluff. So even more frankly, up yours."

"Yes, mam."
Nianacio
13-03-2004, 20:16
OOC:
How far inland is your capital, Bisons?
Practically everything in New Bisons is hardened against EMPThat would increase prices of things quite a bit.
The guards in the VO-100 APC's were overwhelmed, but they did make calls on the radio explaining what had happened.The antennae would be a point for the EMP to get in. So if they have radios, they can be damaged by EMP.
New bisons
13-03-2004, 20:29
OOC:
Problem- New Bisons is Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

If you ever get to the capital, the concerned citizens of Belgorod will annihalate you.

Nianaio- things like cost do not matter the least bit in the Bisonic Army. Only preformance.
IC:
The Ispanka lasers on the aircraft, meant to engage handheld SAMs, preformed very well, protecting most aircraft.

FAE munitions continued to rain down, as shock troops surrounded the Feline troops and dug in. More reinforcements would be on the way, and the Bisonic population had a tendency to despise any foreign intervention in their domestic affairs. A few studying in foreign universities had called for Oladsky to be tried for war crimes, but he enjoyed a modest approval rating of 75%, and a modest 50% of the population believed he had no flaws. The conservative, naitionalist, and communist parties all supported him, and the liberal parties had too little infleunce to matter/

Meanwhile, a 1KT nuke was dropped on the feline troops. This was no bluff, and feliens troops would pay for it. The fallout would be cleaned up, the airport would be sueless and a new airforce base would have to be built. Furthermore, food in the area would have to be replaced, which would be done by large airlifts.

OOC:
KABOOM. FRIED. DEAD.
New bisons
13-03-2004, 20:37
NBC teams are being flown in from around New Bisons, along with plenty of NBC equipment. belgorod will be inconvenienced, but not terribly, and more to the point, Feline's troops should have been annihalated. The fallout will be cleaned up, though some farmland will be made useless, the compensation paid to farmers will make them rich enough not to particularly care.
Artitsa
13-03-2004, 21:04
The vast central plains of Artitsa has thousands of achres of farmland and can support almost double the Artitsan population of 1.25 Billion. Therefor, food supplies and food stocks (we also have a very nice cattle industry. Buy Grade A Artitsan Beef at your local marketplace.) will be sent to Belgorod.
Artitsan News stations intiate propaganda that Feline's has set off a nuclear weapon in Bisonic land. Therefor all Artitsan NBC forces are on extreme alert, and the 40 odd Borei SSBN's with 12 ICBM's carrying 10 MIRV's around the world are picking nice locations in felines. The Nuclear Silo's in the Artitsan Mountains are also activated, and the SDI defence is on full alert.

NBC crews are to head down to Belgorod and clean some up.
Muktar
13-03-2004, 21:07
You all do realize the nation that started this war has been deleted?
Soviet Haaregrad
13-03-2004, 21:16
You all do realize the nation that started this war has been deleted?

Dark Terror = New Bisons.
Pauldustllah
13-03-2004, 21:18
You all do realize the nation that started this war has been deleted?

Dark Terror = New Bisons.
as you can plainly see by looking at the poor Rp quality
Soviet Haaregrad
13-03-2004, 21:28
You all do realize the nation that started this war has been deleted?

Dark Terror = New Bisons.
as you can plainly see by looking at the poor Rp quality

He's getting better, slowly.
Artitsa
13-03-2004, 21:30
Personally, I RP poorly on this site because of how long it takes just to get on here and then have to press submit a hundred times. In other outside RP's Im fine.
New bisons
14-03-2004, 00:26
You all do realize the nation that started this war has been deleted?

Dark Terror = New Bisons.
as you can plainly see by looking at the poor Rp quality

He's getting better, slowly.
Slowly... as I just nuked some guys 20 miles from my capital (1kt nuke, wont affect the capital, but still). :roll:
Lunatic Retard Robots
14-03-2004, 03:10
Ahem.....radioactive cloud of doom, cough cough. :roll:

Not really the kind of thing that you would want near your capital.

Also, Bisons, why are you a racist? Do you realize how many white christian terrorists there have been throughout history?

Let me name a few: The KKK killed african americans for no other reason than their skin was black.

The White Leagues of State did mostly the same thing.

The United States pursued a policy of outright genocide against the native Americans for almost all of its existance up until the very end of the 19th century.

Chief Joseph:

The first white men of your people who came to our country were named Lewis and Clark. They brought many things which our people had never seen. They talked straight and our people gave them a great feast as proof that their hearts were friendly. They made presents to our chiefs and our people made presents to them. We had a great many horses of which we gave them what they needed, and they gave us guns and tobacco in return. All the Nez Perce made friends with Lewis and Clark and agreed to let them pass through their country and never to make war on white men. This promise the Nez Perce have never broken........

II.

For a short time we lived quietly. But this could not last. White men had found gold in the mountains around the land of the Winding Water. They stole a great many horses from us and we could not get them back because we were Indians. The white men told lies for each other. They drove off a great many of our cattle. Some white men branded our young cattle so they could claim them. We had no friends who would plead our cause before the law councils. It seemed to me that some of the white men in Wallowa were doing these things on purpose to get up a war. They knew we were not stong enough to fight them. I labored hard to avoid trouble and bloodshed. We gave up some of our country to the white men, thinking that then we could have peace. We were mistaken. The white men would not let us alone. We could have avenged our wrongs many times, but we did not. Whenever the Government has asked for help against other Indians we have never refused. When the white men were few and we were strong we could have killed them off, but the Nez Perce wishes to live at peace........


[At his surrender in the Bear Paw Mountains, 1877]

Tell General Howard that I know his heart. What he told me before I have in my heart. I am tired of fighting. Our chiefs are killed. Looking Glass is dead, Tu-hul-hil-sote is dead. the old men are all dead. It is the young men who now say yes or no. He who led the young men [Joseph's brother Alikut] is dead. It is cold and we have no blankets. The little children are freezing to death. My people -- some of them have run away to the hills and have no blankets and no food. No one knows where they are -- perhaps freezing to death. I want to have time to look for my children and see how many of them I can find. Maybe I shall find them among the dead. Hear me, my chiefs, my heart is sick and sad. From where the sun now stands I will fight no more against the white man........


[On a visit to Washington, D.C., 1879]

At last I was granted permission to come to Washington and bring my friend Yellow Bull and our interpreter with me. I am glad I came. I have shaken hands with a good many friends, but there are some things I want to know which no one seems able to explain. I cannot understand how the Government sends a man out to fight us, as it did General Miles, and then breaks his word. Such a government has something wrong about it. I cannot understand why so many chiefs are allowed to talk so many different ways, and promise so many different things. I have seen the Great Father Chief [President Hayes]; the Next Great Chief [Secretary of the Interior]; the Commissioner Chief; the Law Chief; and many other law chiefs [Congressmen] and they all say they are my friends, and that I shall have justice, but while all their mouths talk right I do not understand why nothing is done for my people. I have heard talk and talk but nothing is done. Good words do not last long unless they amount to something. Words do not pay for my dead people. They do not pay for my country now overrun by white men. They do not protect my father's grave. They do not pay for my horses and cattle. Good words do not give me back my children. Good words will not make good the promise of your war chief, General Miles. Good words will not give my people a home where they can live in peace and take care of themselves. I am tired of talk that comes to nothing. It makes my heart sick when I remember all the good words and all the broken promises. There has been too much talking by men who had no right to talk. Too many misinterpretations have been made; too many misunderstandings have come up between the white men and the Indians. If the white man wants to live in peace with the Indian he can live in peace. There need be no trouble. Treat all men alike. Give them the same laws. Give them all an even chance to live and grow. All men were made by the same Great Spirit Chief. They are all brothers. The earth is the mother of all people, and all people should have equal rights upon it. You might as well expect all rivers to run backward as that any man who was born a free man should be contented penned up and denied liberty to go where he pleases. If you tie a horse to a stake, do you expect he will grow fat? If you pen an Indian up on a small spot of earth and compel him to stay there, he will not be contented nor will he grow and prosper. I have asked some of the Great White Chiefs where they get their authority to say to the Indian that he shall stay in one place, while he sees white men going where they please. They cannot tell me.

I only ask of the Government to be treated as all other men are treated. If I cannot go to my own home, let me have a home in a country where my people will not die so fast. I would like to go to Bitter Root Valley. There my people would be happy; where they are now they are dying. Three have died since I left my camp to come to Washington.

When I think of our condition, my heart is heavy. I see men of my own race treated as outlaws and driven from country to country, or shot down like animals.

I know that my race must change. We cannot hold our own with the white men as we are. We only ask an even chance to live as other men live. We ask to be recognized as men. We ask that the same law shall work alike on all men. If an Indian breaks the law, punish him by the law. If a white man breaks the law, punish him also.

Let me be a free man, free to travel, free to stop, free to work, free to trade where I choose, free to choose my own teachers, free to follow the religion of my fathers, free to talk, think and act for myself -- and I will obey every law or submit to the penalty.

Whenever the white man treats the Indian as they treat each other then we shall have no more wars. We shall be all alike -- brothers of one father and mother, with one sky above us and one country around us and one government for all. Then the Great Spirit Chief who rules above will smile upon this land and send rain to wash out the bloody spots made by brothers' hands upon the face of the earth. For this time the Indian race is waiting and praying. I hope no more groans of wounded men and women will ever go to the ear of the Great Spirit Chief above, and that all people may be one people.

I can go on and on about the colonialists who killed off the native population. You kight find J.M. Coetzee's Waiting For The Barbarians interesting, or Carl Sagan's Cosmos.

But onto more realistic things (I doubt I could ever convert you, DT, to the light of Saganisim):

We will send the 8th medical brigade to DT to provide you with excellent medical care for any citizens with health problems caused by the war, and to treat any surviving Feline troops.

We also beg the two sides to please make up. This fighting is largely pointless, as stirring Bisonic nationalism will put back the effort for a stable and tolerant world many years.

Peace negotiations could be held in Gdansk if you wish.

Also, we will gladly transport the remaining Moslems in the new bisons to LRR, where we have much excess farmland and space for at least twice our present population. The recent surge in the economy has generated not only more revenue for welfare and healthcare, but also for public transportation, allowing for all towns in LRR to now be within 10 miles of a railroad station. The new Il-79 transports which we have recently developed have ample room to transport an entire minority in a few trips.

(Sorry for the long post. But Chief Joseph's speech there was son great, ah well. I can link (http://www.pbs.org/weta/thewest/resources/archives/six/jospeak.htm) it if you want.
New bisons
14-03-2004, 03:21
Ahem.....radioactive cloud of doom, cough cough. :roll:

Not really the kind of thing that you would want near your capital.

Very small.. it was only 1/20 as strong as the Hiroshima bomb, and there wasnt very much fallout there. NBC teams will take care of it

Also, Bisons, why are you a racist? Do you realize how many white christian terrorists there have been throughout history?

Let me name a few: The KKK killed african americans for no other reason than their skin was black.

The White Leagues of State did mostly the same thing.

Catholicism was outlawed in Dark Terror sometime around October, and there were several massive wars because of it. End of story. Protestantism is heavily discouraged but allowed.
Neo Earth
14-03-2004, 04:46
Due to the recent death of Emperor (and saint) Ryo-Tan Jolkin, and the crowning of the new Emperor, Braq Jolkin, the Legions sent to DT have been recalled.

We will, however, leave the 7th and 8th legions, as they are not needed. Also, the 19th Legion will be sent to act as a replacement.

Neo Earth wishes to remain neutral in this dispute, but should it come to a full war, we will stand by The bisons.

We will continue to ask both nations to find a peaceful solution to this problem.
New bisons
14-03-2004, 05:00
OOC:
Should it come to full war? Dropping nuclear weapons on Felines troops 20 miles from my capital is not full war? :lol:
Lunatic Retard Robots
14-03-2004, 05:08
Bisons, you never responded to my request to deploy medical teams or to transport your remaining moslems to LRR.
Neo Earth
14-03-2004, 05:41
OOC: Should you be completly invaded.

I don't truly want to get stuck defending a ally, as I am about to go into a civil war. (reason for the legions being pulled back)
Feline
14-03-2004, 14:45
OOC: Either admit your capital is currently undergoing Chernobyl-like effects or make a real role-play attempt to defeat these people, not just a crap "I nuke you, you are dead" post. The nuclear weapon is ignored until you do one of the above.

Get over it, Bisons. Your country is not an impenatrable wall that no invasion can pierce. It is impossible for any country to be like that. In the interest of roleplay, you are supposed to let the other person get some troops into your country to continue the story.

IC: We are fully open to a peaceful solution, provided that the treaty includes the following conditions:


New Bisons pens a new constitution, guaranteeing civil liberties, freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom from search without a court warrant, due process in the courts, democratically elected leaders with all elections having to be certified by international inspectors, and clearly seperates powers between an executive, judicial, and legislative branch.
New Bisons allows the Muslims, and all other exiles, to return if they wish.
New Bisons abolishes capital punishment



And those were generous. We contemplated making you have more programs to help the poor, pay reperations for all Feline equipment you damaged or destroyed, and have your leader tried for war crimes.
New bisons
14-03-2004, 17:44
OOC:
Feline, if you ignore the nukes, I can just carpetbomb your troops to hell (your terms are simply ignored and thrown into a fireplace without being opened).

However, most modern nukes are 2 MEGATONS. This nuke was 1 KILOTON. It is 2000 TIMES LESS POWERFUL THAN YOUR TYPICAL NUKE. THE CAPITAL IS NOT HAVING A CHERNOBYL, MAYBE THE SUBURBS CLOSEST TO THE AFB ARE.
New bisons
14-03-2004, 17:57
OOC:
BTW, I almost died laughing from the surrender terms. Your troops are surrounded by the shock army, the best troops of New Bisons. Their duty is to sit around the capital waiting for a coup attempt (and then crush it), but I guess blowing up a bunch of 'imperialist swines' is good work as well :roll: . Vehicles are hardened against EMP pulse and have NBC protection equipment, me nuking you has not adversely affected them as they are a fully mechanized lot (apart from the towed guns and their crews.. who can always get inside some MT-LB)

Composition:
10,000 T-7 'Gilgamesh' supertanks
4,500 GT-4 heavy infantry fighting vehicles
4000 VO-100M heavy wheeled APC's
7,500 BMP-45 IFV's (basically MT-LB tractor with some addon armor and a 45mm autocannon, plus some ATGMs)
1500 MSTA-S self propelled artillery systems
5000 towed guns
250 Uragan MLRS systems
150 TOS-1 FAE MLRS systems


Have a nice day :roll:
Scandavian States
14-03-2004, 18:06
OOC: Is it so much to ask that you just leave? I mean, your first two nations were deleted, I'd say the mods aren't all that interested in having you around. TAKE THE DAMN HINT!!!
14-03-2004, 18:17
::Wrong user posted::
New bisons
14-03-2004, 18:17
OOC: Is it so much to ask that you just leave? I mean, your first two nations were deleted, I'd say the mods aren't all that interested in having you around. TAKE THE DAMN HINT!!!
OOC:
Its because people tell me to leave that I stay to annoy them.
United Elias
14-03-2004, 18:20
What exactly is the situation here?

Also why did DT get deleted?
New bisons
14-03-2004, 18:22
What exactly is the situation here?

Also why did DT get deleted?
Appearently flaming is discouraged on this site.

Situation:
1. I execute islamic terrorists and Imams calling for terror attacks against me
2. I outlaw islam
3. I deport moslems
4. Feline sends planes to pick up the moslems, however, 230,000 troops get out of the last 100 planes.
4. I nuke his troops with a 1 kiloton nuke.
5. He ignores nuke.
6. I flatten troops with enough artillery to make the ww1 barrages look like a childs game. Oh, and a good deal of bombers.
7. I try to knock the fact that the nuke I used was 2000 times les powerful than todays average nuke into his appearently thick skull.
United Elias
14-03-2004, 18:24
What exactly is the situation here?

Also why did DT get deleted?
Appearently flaming is discouraged on this site.

Situation:
1. I execute islamic terrorists and Imams calling for terror attacks against me
2. I outlaw islam
3. I deport moslems
4. Feline sends planes to pick up the moslems, however, 230,000 troops get out of the last 100 planes.
4. I nuke his troops with a 1 kiloton nuke.
5. He ignores nuke.
6. I flatten troops with enough artillery to make the ww1 barrages look like a childs game. Oh, and a good deal of bombers.
7. I try to knock the fact that the nuke I used was 2000 times les powerful than todays average nuke into his appearently thick skull.

So basically what happens most days in Bisonic countries... :wink:
New bisons
14-03-2004, 18:31
:lol: Yup.

Only problem is there was a 1kt nuke going off 20 miles from my capital. Still no problem really, its 20 times less powerful than the Hiroshima bmb, much less the size or pwoer of the chernobyl explosion. And if you noticed there is a city where hiroshima was, not a big nuclear wasteland. The city 20 miles away will hardly be affected at all. Hell I could probably start rebuilding the air force base soon.
ChutneyLand
14-03-2004, 18:37
All religion is banned in ChutneyLand except the state worship of me. Christians are imprisoned, Buddhists are ridiculed, and moslems are executed without trial or appeal.
New bisons
14-03-2004, 18:46
All religion is banned in ChutneyLand except the state worship of me. Christians are imprisoned, Buddhists are ridiculed, and moslems are executed without trial or appeal.
I like this guys attitude.
Redmire
14-03-2004, 18:50
OOC: Either admit your capital is currently undergoing Chernobyl-like effects or make a real role-play attempt to defeat these people, not just a crap "I nuke you, you are dead" post. The nuclear weapon is ignored until you do one of the above.

Get over it, Bisons. Your country is not an impenatrable wall that no invasion can pierce. It is impossible for any country to be like that. In the interest of roleplay, you are supposed to let the other person get some troops into your country to continue the story.

IC: We are fully open to a peaceful solution, provided that the treaty includes the following conditions:


New Bisons pens a new constitution, guaranteeing civil liberties, freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom from search without a court warrant, due process in the courts, democratically elected leaders with all elections having to be certified by international inspectors, and clearly seperates powers between an executive, judicial, and legislative branch.
New Bisons allows the Muslims, and all other exiles, to return if they wish.
New Bisons abolishes capital punishment



And those were generous. We contemplated making you have more programs to help the poor, pay reperations for all Feline equipment you damaged or destroyed, and have your leader tried for war crimes.
OOC: Either admit your capital is currently undergoing Chernobyl-like effects or make a real role-play attempt to defeat these people, not just a crap "I nuke you, you are dead" post. The nuclear weapon is ignored until you do one of the above.

Get over it, Bisons. Your country is not an impenatrable wall that no invasion can pierce. It is impossible for any country to be like that. In the interest of roleplay, you are supposed to let the other person get some troops into your country to continue the story.

IC: We are fully open to a peaceful solution, provided that the treaty includes the following conditions:


New Bisons pens a new constitution, guaranteeing civil liberties, freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom from search without a court warrant, due process in the courts, democratically elected leaders with all elections having to be certified by international inspectors, and clearly seperates powers between an executive, judicial, and legislative branch.
New Bisons allows the Muslims, and all other exiles, to return if they wish.
New Bisons abolishes capital punishment



And those were generous. We contemplated making you have more programs to help the poor, pay reperations for all Feline equipment you damaged or destroyed, and have your leader tried for war crimes.


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14-03-2004, 18:51
LOL Feline just can't admit you beat him with strategy bisons, so I predict this will, ofcourse, end as an ignorefest.
14-03-2004, 18:53
This is why Feline's troops are all dead:
A. TheY got nuked
B. The fallout would only slightly effect normal life in the capital
C. Aside from cancer rates rising maybe 5% AT BEST there would be no long term effects on the capital
D. If NO ONE would detonate a nuke close to their troops, then WHY ARE THERE NUCLEAR ARTILLERY SHELLS?
Redmire
14-03-2004, 18:54
LOL Feline just can't admit you beat him with strategy bisons, so I predict this will, ofcourse, end as an ignorefest.

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14-03-2004, 19:02
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New bisons
14-03-2004, 19:23
Get out of this thread.
Feline
14-03-2004, 19:24
OOC: That is not strategy. That is just plain nuking.

Come on, Bisons, roleplay. Don't try to just instantly defeat any army, try to actually make an interesting story.

And earlier in the thread, we both agreed: Space technology and nuclear weapons were not allowed to be used. I'll go dig it up no.
New bisons
14-03-2004, 19:26
OOC: That is not strategy. That is just plain nuking.

Come on, Bisons, roleplay. Don't try to just instantly defeat any army, try to actually make an interesting story.

And earlier in the thread, we both agreed: Space technology and nuclear weapons were not allowed to be used. I'll go dig it up no.
OOC:
I dont bother to roleplay. I just nuked you. Good day. I win.

In case the nukes ignored, have it your way, Im just bombarding your troops with a shitload of arty and Ill just wait for them to starve to death.
IC:
Reinforcements are being flown in.

Planes are dropping massive 10,000kg bombs on the buildings to demolish them, after which FAE bombs are used. The bombing is done from high altitude, making the planes fully immune to manportable SAMs.
Feline
14-03-2004, 19:34
Let's keep WMD out of this, just like we're keeping space-tech out of this. Both sort of screw up roleplay.

And ifyou don't bother to roleplay, then why do you go into the NationStates and International Incidents forums? Just stick to General then. Or leave nationstates. I don't care.


Either roleplay, or I will forget this all happend and you will lose your chance to do damage to my nation.
New bisons
14-03-2004, 19:46
OOC:
I stay here to annoy the people who want me to leave.

Also, I just read the entire thread, and unless I missed something, I never agreed not to use nukes. Therefore, your troops are dead (unless their ion guns saved em from nukes :roll: ). Try again.
Feline
14-03-2004, 19:53
OOC: My condition was no WMD. Yours was no space-tech. Have I brought space-tech into the thread? No.

One last chance to actually RP, or I will leave this thread forever, and IGNORE my losses from the start.
Nianacio
14-03-2004, 19:56
Two OOC questions, if you don't mind
OOC
Im a bit flexible. For those of us who like the experimental tech, we also have airborne lasers on Il-76's, sea skimming mach 4 ramjets, and some other technologies which I cant be bothered to remember. I dont use them against more modern tech countries, but in here, theyll find good use.What year would that make this be taking place in?
OOC:
I stay here to annoy the people who want me to leave.Who are they?
New bisons
14-03-2004, 20:01
OOC:
Feline, you make it sound like I give a damn.

Nianacio- who are they? Mainly some people I knew from around august.. kitsylvania (dances on his grave), cirdanistan, etc.
Feline
14-03-2004, 20:05
OOC: You do. You just don't know it. And we are leaving this thread.

And I will say this for the god-knows-how-many-time:

Nationstates is about roleplaying.

You don't. So leave.

And one more thing that I have said almost as many times, purely OOC, just like it is now:

We were the Elite Commandos that tried to assasinate your president.
New bisons
14-03-2004, 20:06
OOC:
You mean you were the idiots who blew up the hotel next to the presidential palace rather than the palace? :lol:
Feline
14-03-2004, 20:09
OOC: Alright, I'm coming back to the thread, but just to set the record straight. And no, it was not them that did that. They're the ones that blew up the palace, but your president escaped via helicopter seconds before. :roll:
New bisons
14-03-2004, 20:35
OOC:
Ah, so they did the first assasination attempt, rather than the second.Of course, after 2 attempts, there are a few thousand troops guarding the palace, so dont think about a third attempt.
Lunatic Retard Robots
15-03-2004, 01:11
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!

I applaude both of you for the best laugh I had in a long time! You guys are pretty funny.

I n00ked JooZ!!!!!!!

N0 YoU DiDUNT!!!!!!

IgNORED!!!!!!!

YoUZ CANNOT IGNORe THaT!!!!!!!

j00Z WaS NOT RPing!!!!!!!

JeS I WAS!!!!! n00b!!!!!!!!

Now for some IC comments:

LRR will be watching the situation as it unfolds. By the way, since it looks like the Moslems who you were trying to deport were never deported, we can still take them, since LRR is a very left-wing, progressive, tolerant country. (The KKK was almost completely killed off in a small civil war, and the conservative party has two seats in a 570-member house of commons.)
Iron Blood
15-03-2004, 01:33
The moslems have been evacuated.... being our generous selves we did not shoot down the transports even though feline landed troops.
15-03-2004, 01:44
OCC: We sent our F-22A Raptors to shoot the transports carrying Moslems down with AIM-7D sparrow missiles at a range of 40 miles. THe mission was a success. All fighters were recovered. We know that many transports were downed, but not an exact number.