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Press conference, House of the Executive, from the President of the Republic of Nikvonia:

Ladies and Gentleman, it has come to my attention that aid given to Republican rebels in Liom has been used for terrorist purposes. A Splinter group, No Left Turn, has hijacked funds for car-bombings and political assissinations. As such, we will use Nikvonian personell to administer funds, and so stop these terrorists from tarnishing the cause of freedom.

However, seeing the oppressive police state being created in Liom, we stand even more firm behind the Republicans than ever before, and have equipped tens of thousands of guerrillas, and special units of volunteers have been sent, with artillery, to support the rebels.

We shall continue guerrilla operations, within the bounds of the laws of war, untilthe occupiers are replaced by neutrals, and elections are held.

Thank you and good day.

end transmission

In the hills of the British Communist zone of occupation:

"Remember, as soon as I give the signal, we all do our jobs...got it?"
After affirmation, Victor Hausen sent his men on their way. His 9-man unit of Republican guerrillas was preparing an ambush of a BC supply convoy headed to the town below the mountains.

As his 3-man Alpha team reached the corner of the road that was to be the ambush spot, he contemplated the fitful months that had led to this day, and his hatred of the fascists and stalinists revived itself. He shook it off, and returned to the present. While the rest of the Alpha and Bravo teams over-watched, one man buried their home-made control-detonated mine in the roadbed, and Sierra team watched the flanks and rear. After this was complete, they formed a classic L ambush on the corner, so that Alpha (assault) would fire across the road, and Bravo (base of fire) would fire down it, while Sierra (security) would guard the flanks and rear.

And they waited. For over an hour they waited, until they heard the rumble of trucks. 7 trucks, the first and last open and filled with armed men, the middle 5 with precious supplies. The Republicans looked away, and hunkered down further, praying their expert camouflage would hold. Victor watched, and waited, till the lead truck was over the mine. At that instant, he depressed the firing button, demolishing the truck, and scattering dead and wounded soldiers about the road. An instant later, the Bravo team, at the read of the convoy, lobbed molotov cocktails into the rear truck, setting it and most of the men inside ablaze.

While the men of Bravo set about putting their captured AKMs to good use, killing or pinning down the enemy soldiers alive to fire back, Alpha jumped onto the road, turning and sweeping the length of the convoy of enemy as they went. As they reached the point of main resistance, they yelled out "SHIFT FIRE!!", taking the reaming enemy in the flank. At this, Bravo swept across the road, making sure any enemy were dead or running, and guarding the new direction, thus completing a neat box. With Bravo and Sierra on over-watch, Alpha checked all the enemy dead for useful inteliigence or equipment, and opened the crates in the back of the trucks. Food...excellent, enough to feed the rest of their battalion for weeks. 10 minutes later, porters arrived from their Battalion to pack up the food and cache it for later use.
Using the gas cans in the trucks, they set the vehicles aflame, creating a mazzive roadblock, and thus a target for future attacks.

Hausen knew that at least half a dozen other units his size were doing exactly the same thing throughout Liom, and that the only convoys that could get through were so large and so well armed that they weakened the garrisons from which they left enough to make them targets themselves. Thus continues the war of liberation.

Sambollakan troops now deployed around the sector, ready to send the facists to their early graves.

ooc: There is actuaaly no difference between Stalinism and Facism. Please don't compare Stalinism to communism, they are total opposites.

OOC: There is actuaaly no difference between Stalinism and Facism. Please don't compare Stalinism to communism, they are total opposites.

OOC: True... however most of NationStates "communists" don't really seem to follow the ideals of communism very well... the fact alot of them ally with Russian Forces further proves this as I swear he does follow Stalinism...

Basically put if you are going to support nations who are in my eyes "Imperialistic" I will also look down on a communist nation using Stalin and Lenin as ways to further insult them...

If you want to be the kind of communist I like, talk to Zvarinograd who has become a complete pacifist and now promotes peace and true communism...

Its an outrage that The Republic of Nikvonia are supporting known terrorists. I'm sure that if other countries knew this, they would not look on you very favourably.

Maybe you haven't read our previous transmissions. The more attacks there are, the longer we stay, there wil be British Communist forces in Der Liom until the last person from no left turn is killed or captured. 10,000 more troops are on their way as we speak.

Its an outrage that The Republic of Nikvonia are supporting known terrorists. I'm sure that if other countries knew this, they would not look on you very favourably.

Maybe you haven't read our previous transmissions. The more attacks there are, the longer we stay, there wil be British Communist forces in Der Liom until the last person from no left turn is killed or captured. 10,000 more troops are on their way as we speak.

It would seem that before The Republic of Nikvonia started supporting the citizens of Liom against their oppressors you set yourself an impossible target.

Afterall, if you are willing to fight those who would fight against your occupations until they no longer exist the fact that you are killing these freedom fighters merely increases the amount of people willing to fight.

Perhaps your nation intended on staying in Liom forever... making it part of your own territory.


Well, none the less Iuthia will regonise The Republic of Nikvonia's assistance and acknowledge their will to fight a gorilla war using the rules of international war.

For the time being Iuthia will not actively get involved but we would like to mention our continuing dislike for the occupiers of Liom whom ruthlessly invaded a nation which didn't pose a threat...

If the occupiers of Liom are to have any respect they will give over the occupation to a neutral nation, may I suggest a real communist, so that they may set up better future for Liom and not the eternal death your people are proposing.

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After his long stay in exhile-Liom returned in secret to the land of his birth with the remainder of his loyal 7th legion.Seeing the destruction of the country he loved so much he sobbed.

But this land in turmoil was crying out for its true leader and he swore he would undone the hardships of this conflict.

I declare a revitalised state of der liom in what has become known as the azk sector.All factions are urged to put down your weapons (they do so -Der liom may be a tough leader but his people adore him as can be seen by the many riots and civil unrest against the illegal forces of occupation)

"please leave my country and stop your crimes against humanity-you fired the first shots "

OOC: Actually, you more or less said you'd kick our asses if we helped the rebels, which clearly didn't happen....

The people do not adore you, why was there an uprising in the first place do you think? The vast majority are in support of us being there, and quite unsurprisingly, don't care much for constant terrorist attacks. I've talked it over with my allies, and we are prepared to invade the old AZK region if you stay there.

The withdrawal of A.Z.K. from their section of Liom will create a power vacuum, which could potentially destabilize the entire region. Therefore, Kristorg is supporting the return of Der Liom's original pre-war government. As we do not wish to see any further foreign powers seizing the sovereign territory of our regional neighbours.

Kristorg is sending 2 infantry divisions, i.e. 20,000 soldiers into the A.Z.K. region to support the return of Der Liom.

This is not intended as an act of war, or violence, rather it is to attempt to ensure peace, by preventing further warfare by the occupying powers to bring the A.Z.K section under their control

We agree the illegal occupation and division of der liom has caused a power vaccum that threatens the safety of the entire region.The forces of occupation are breaking international law and promoting the circle of violence and may lead to another far more brutal conflict with neutral nations such as mine being drawn into it.

We are sending 20,000 troops to help Der lioom restore order to the country that he only wanted to free from terrorism in the first place.

We will also send 1500 police and 800 hundred medical personnel to try and limit the damage that ye have caused and try stop a humanitarian catastrophe

"Sir the final fortifications are complete"
"Excellent.. we'll turn this into GEM property yet..."
he surveyed the new wall, the wall that was completely separating the Midlonian Section of the GEM...
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Machine guns posts barbed wire, dogs, mines... everything to stop the rebels coming in...

Bc stop your malcontent and war mongering.The people of der liom adore him-just because there was a terrorist uprising in the country doesnt support your claim that they didnt like the government.All countries cann suffer from the woes of terrorism

Bc stop your malcontent and war mongering.The people of der liom adore him-just because there was a terrorist uprising in the country doesnt support your claim that they didnt like the government.All countries cann suffer from the woes of terrorism

This is the announcement of the building of the Der Liom wall. This will strech the length of the British Communists quater, cutting it off from all other regions. There will be guard towers every 500 metres, with 4 troops, 1 sniper and 3 red guard special forces. Every mile will be a larger garrison with 500 troops and a tank. Anyone seen trying to get or arond the wall using any means possible will be shot.These will change shift every 6 hours and will be on duty 24 hours a day.

Citizens from this quater WILL be allowed in and out, and will be given retian scans, finger prints, serial numbers, special passes with holograms and other security measures. No citizens from other quaters can pass through without these passes and other security measures, which they can apply for. Extensive background checks will obviously be carried out.

It is IMPOSSIBLE to pass this wall, other than by air, which is also covered, SAM sites have been set up just behind the wall to avert non-civilian planes, all planes will also need to pass security checks. We will NOT tolerate terrorism against the citizens of the british communist quater.

a free and democratic election was set up in the der liom's sector of his sovereign nation.It was overseen by shaven beaver eaters and kristorg.Der liom received 94.3% of the vote and took it as an endorsement to stay and restore his nation to its formal glory.

Polls have been held where Der liom's people said by a 7:1 ratio that the best years of there country was enjoyed under der liom.

Asked whether they would return to der lioms rule or take the "freedom" which was offered by the illegal forces of occupation-a resounding 99% said that Der liom was the better for their country."We have always enjoyed the security that one strong leader provides" said one old aged pensioner

In all sectors of the newly partioned state of der liom peaceful protests with many hundreds of thousands of people have taken place.Slogans such as liom is the father of our country ,dont destroy our family and shouts of End the occupation,Less tyranny more liom echo in unison as the people cry out ,marching and shouting now being their only weapon against the foreign invaders.

"The people have spoken let we take them under my loving wing asi always have"-Der Liom ,True leader of the sovereign and nation of The armed Republic Der liom.

This is the announcement of the building of the Der Liom wall. This will strech the length of the British Communists quater, cutting it off from all other regions. There will be guard towers every 500 metres, with 4 troops, 1 sniper and 3 red guard special forces. Every mile will be a larger garrison with 500 troops and a tank. Anyone seen trying to get or arond the wall using any means possible will be shot.These will change shift every 6 hours and will be on duty 24 hours a day.

Citizens from this quater WILL be allowed in and out, and will be given retian scans, finger prints, serial numbers, special passes with holograms and other security measures. No citizens from other quaters can pass through without these passes and other security measures, which they can apply for. Extensive background checks will obviously be carried out.

It is IMPOSSIBLE to pass this wall, other than by air, which is also covered, SAM sites have been set up just behind the wall to avert non-civilian planes, all planes will also need to pass security checks. We will NOT tolerate terrorism against the citizens of the british communist quater.


You call this liberating-we are a young nation but we can see that you are just jumping on the band wagon for your own expansionist means-you have raped and pillaged the people have spoken "leave".We are troubled that an illegal force of occupation will simply cause a civil war-this struggle will go on on longer than anyone will remember and thousands will die.Even in your sector marches have been seen -how many of your people have to return home in body bags before you realise that the want the restoration of their true leader.

When the terrorist attacks stop, when inncoent civilians are safe, and order has been restored I will pull out. I think you should keep the nation in quaters, rule your quater, then in a few NS years (a few real days) hold elections in the quaters seeing if they want to be returned to a unified country. In the meantime, he people should elect a government for their quater, with no intervention and you should ask 3 impartial nations to keep an eye on these elections. I am confident my quater will stay communism, as recent poll show 96% are in favour of communism and 72% are in favour of the way we have handled the situation.

When the terrorist attacks stop.

OOC: If I remember correctly, you guy invented the terrorists so you had something to fight. Did you get Liom's permission to RP his people? I doubt it... however it has been excepted.

Difference is that Liom is back and he RP's is own people...

So there is an easy answer to this. Liom, are there any terrorists fighting after you've called them to stop?

They are his and his alone to RP... unless you are going to IC invent your own terrorists it would seem that terrorism has stopped.

May we suggest a course of action?

It seems to me that Hazler is some distance away from the base of 'No Left Turn'. Why not give Hazler and a few miles of the surrounding country to the communists, and then give the rest back to Liom on the condition that he makes no military move on the communist sector? That way, everybody is happy.

May we suggest a course of action?

It seems to me that Hazler is some distance away from the base of 'No Left Turn'. Why not give Hazler and a few miles of the surrounding country to the communists, and then give the rest back to Liom on the condition that he makes no military move on the communist sector? That way, everybody is happy.

OCC: Liom, you dont have a part that you govern.Remember, you are not a president anymore. Second of all, you started the war. You declaired war on me. Then once I post the naval forces comming you tried to say you are trying not to start a war. You need to do some back ground checks before you declair war.

Communist Louisiana will now begin "The Clean Campaign" any suspected terrorist will be arrested and brought to trial. If found guilt of terrorism. You will be put to death. We have also recieved notice that comrades in The International will also begin to send in troops to help secure the Socialist Republic of Liom(CL Sector). Nikvonia, if you direct any terrorist attacks against my nation, I will go after you personally with no one elses help. Today, 3/4 of all mobilized artillary and other major tanks have been sent back to CL. We still plan to give the nation back to the people of Liom. Not the X president. But, with recent terrorist attacks, we will be stationed here longer. Unless the chances of a seperate communist state in Liom. We would also help protect it being if Liom decided to double cross a treaty.

He declared war... didn't actually do anything, then got invaded and had his nation split up. It's clear that he wasn't a threat and it's clear that your nation is. You don't seem to even concider diplomacy... you leaped in an invaded his nation.

Splitting his nation up will cause serious damage to the communities you have seperated, not to meantion how pointless it is... I mean all nations currently occupying Liom are allied and beleive in the same things... where as the berlin wall was contructed because the Russians and the Americans didn't really trust on another.

Meanwhile building a wall inside a nation to stop terrorism inside that nation isn't going to work, mainly because all you have actually done is split up the area... the terrorists/rebels are not outside of your section, but they are speard out in all factions before the wall was created...

Again we feel that your nation can only begin to redeem itself by allowing a neutral nation (I don't mean myself, I'm not really neutral) to slowly introduce democracy into the nation.

Meanwhile we feel this nation is not ready to be communist as it is clear that the majority of the population will be against this. If you want terrorism to stop you can try not occupying their nation... it is clear that the longer you stay the longer terrorism will occur and the more damage you will do to this nation.

End occupation now.

OR WHAT!!!! I WILL NOT BE THREATENED.. I am not the one who built the wall. I plan to hand back power. And you must be a dumbass if you cant read on page 3 or 4 if I remember "We in Liom are now at a state of war with Communist Louisiana.

I would only accept the idea of a seperate communist state. This guy should have first found out what he was going against. Maybe, he should have waited a lil longer than he did then pluging face first into the anti-communist setup. A stronger nation can. But a noob cant afford to trash communism.

The AZK is now mad at nations trying to have involvement in the AZK sector the only nations that can be involved with my section are communist allies of the AZK and Der Liom(and his other accounts).

OR WHAT!!!! I WILL NOT BE THREATENED.. I am not the one who built the wall. I plan to hand back power.

We have not threatened you once, though we are beging to feel that your nation is threatening us. We are simply pointing out that the wall is not a good idea, as well as pointing out that occupation breeds rebellion... most people don't like foreigners ruling their nation. Especially occupiers who invaded their nation in such a rushed manner. Which bring me to the next point...

And you must be a dumbass if you cant read on page 3 or 4 if I remember "We in Liom are now at a state of war with Communist Louisiana.

You should also note that we have acknowledged that Liom declared war. However we also acknowledge that his nation was not a threat and hadn't actually mobilised any forces again you or even made a move...

Meanwhile the declaration of war itself was down to the fact that you and your allies were supplying guns and funds to rebels in his nation. Now seeing as your nation are now fighting "terrorists" could it not be argued that you supported "terrorists" in the first place.

Liom is a young nation... they didn't know better and they messed up bad. However invading them and splitting up their nation (I'm not even talking about the wall now, it is split up by the fact you each control a part of it) was a gross over-reaction to their declaration of war made in anger at your support for the rebels.


Perhaps if you guys were careful at the start of this situation war would never have occured and you wouldn't be in this mess. Oh... and please don't flame, it isn't nice.


AZK - I will telegram you in a couple minutes with some updated information about our embassy situation.

Now if you don't mind gentlement, I'm going to stop trying to change your hasty ways and actually do something. And no... that isn't a threat, I need to say that overwise you will keep missing the point.

Iuthia is now working on a plan to help Liom get past all of this. Should any nations want to be involved in this please telegram us so we can explain what we would like of them and how they can help Liom and Liom's people.

This is not a military solution and any suggestions of such will be thrown out. We have tried lobbying and it doesn't work, so now we are working on a diplomatic peaceful solution which will start slow and end with a new Liom that will arrise like a pheonix from the ashes of their occupied nation.

We have done all we can by suggesting a neutral nation takes over and it is clear that will not happen. This is my action and I'm going with it. I can only hope that sense will previal.

Thanks.

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i have only been made aware of the plight of liom. i will help in setting up table talks if that is what is required to return liom to normal.

anything else that you think might require my assistance on please let me know.

OOC: I know I'm new, but this is stupid. Liom is making completely unrealisitic, and boring, statements about the will of his people. The Communists rushed into a war, then were as bad as Liom. Neither Liom nor the Communists deserve the state; but it is Liom's to run, just as it is mine to ignore.
The RP (never done it afore, didn't seem that great) was pure god-moding (as far as I understand), and boring. Besides, what's the point of this, if nations won';t abide by that decided by the RP? Assuming the RP doesn't suck, of course.

Screw this, I'm going to throw my own war.

The Armed Republic of FluffyMooCows has just been made aware of the plight of his brother-state Der Liom. My attention had been diverted by my military manouvers in the Sea of Bragvil. My complete attention is now on the restoration of the rightful ruler of Der Liom. I have mobilised my Elite 1st Army know affectionately as 'the Bulls'. this army consists of 2,000,000 troops with substantial ground and air support. these troops stand ready to enter Der Liom but of course they, like any proffesional soldiers would prefer to see a peaceful resolution to this conflict. the question i pose is will you withdraw from Der Liom, a region populated by people hostile to your political ideals, surrounded by hostile states who will sacrifice all to see this communist cancer removed from the region? will you withdraw peacefully and allow the restoration of the rightful government or will we have to drain the resources of our countries fighting over a plot of land? my diplomats stand as ready as my troops gentlemen. the ball is in your court.

I El Liom will support my brother-in-arms Der Liom (no relation). I echo my regional delegate FluffyMooCows in calling for a peaceful resolution to this problem but have mobilised my troops in the preparation for a military resolution to this problem. The state of Der Liom will be restored or the region of the Viking nations will expend its entire energy, manpower and resources in the attempt. throw your mistempered weapons to the floor and end this childish division and occupation of Der Liom.

I pledge 3,000,000 dolla dolla bills in aid to Der Liom. I hope this aid will go to the alleviation of hardship in your state caused by the unwanted and unlawful presence of united communist forces. Peaceful protest and huge electoral support have shown that Der Liom is the rightful ruler of his state. End your wall-building you weaklings. You build walls to keep people out but also to keep your people in. Your idea of rule creates such a contemptable state that if there is not a wall there will be a mass exodus. You rule by fear and fear does not come cheap. You are forced to expend huge military energy just to hold your tenuous hold on power. Expect resistance to grow if you keep your hold on Der Liom as the population grows angry against your fumbling efforts to rule and as activists/freedom fighters/terrorist from neighbouring states will pour into Der Liom and will make your stay incredibly inconvient. I will of course not aid such unlawful actions but i will not condemn them. Expect the unexpected gentlemen. Your waiters, cooks, toilet cleaners, drivers doctors, plumbers all could be potential terrorists. You will have to be very very careful during your stay in Der Liom. Know however that a complete withdrawal and a word from Der Liom could halt the terrorist threat. Just think about it, the freedom to take a dump without six security guards in the cubicle. I leave it up to you.

Power to Der liom. i GOT YER BACK !!

INCUBUSIA.
A.K.A CORK ADMIRAL #54

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The withdrawal of A.Z.K. from their section of Liom will create a power vacuum, which could potentially destabilize the entire region. Therefore, Kristorg is supporting the return of Der Liom's original pre-war government. As we do not wish to see any further foreign powers seizing the sovereign territory of our regional neighbours.

Kristorg is sending 2 infantry divisions, i.e. 20,000 soldiers into the A.Z.K. region to support the return of Der Liom.

This is not intended as an act of war, or violence, rather it is to attempt to ensure peace, by preventing further warfare by the occupying powers to bring the A.Z.K section under their control

Snuggle-Topia whole-heartedly agrees with this assesment of the situation, and joins Kristorg in pledging our support to our neighbour Der Liom. 60,000 troops of the Pan-Snug Alliance (Snuggle-topia, Snugland, and Snugdovia) will be sent, in the hopes of stemming further aggression.

From the pen of John Anderson, General Adjutant to the Snuggle-Topian Emperor.

The most Serene Republic of Sacrificial Lamb pledges its support to Der Liom. We hope that this problem can be solved without war. Violence should be a last resort, not the first option as was the case in this conflict. the actions of Der Liom against the communist rebels was clinical and calculated. communist alliance attacked without serious provocation and without any military action against them. It was a pre-emptive strike on a state that posed little or no threat. Such an action has very little legal or moral basis and the current occupation of the state has even less. Sacrificial Lamb sends 1,000,000 rams to reduce the hardship of the inhabitants of Der Liom. If further aid is needed by Der Liom, be it financial or military it will be provided.

My people demand action and it is growing increasingly difficult to make them accept peaceful protest.The young die and the old linger in a bombed out country that used to be known for its beauty as the jewel of the vikings.

All workers are on strike ,oil wells are a blaze and mines,bridges and power plants have been destroyed by the so called terorists which in fact are the people that work in them-they want my position to be restored and to end any profiteering by the occupiers.

The idea that Hazler remain under occupation is also totally unacceptable as it is impossible for a body to survive if its head be removed or its brains be made of foreign lead.

End this unlawful occupation

OOC: Why the hell are all these nations like 2 days old with barely any population saying they're going to send in millions of troops? You'll get yourself invaded, seriously.

Der Liom, Hazler isn't under occupation, its in the peoples zone.

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And although there may be strikes in that region, thats fine by me, production will fall and the economy will implode. In the BC region we are running at naerly maximum output, and the workers can see the benefit of our glorious system.

What is wrond with the creation of a seperate communist state? Clearly they people of Hazler want tob e Communist - let them. Clearly the rest of the populace want to be facist (they voted for Liom in the opinion polls with percentages that have only ever been seen before in Nazi Germany...) - let them. somebody please explain to me why nobody wants to carry out this idea?

Sambollakan troops are now patrolling the Der Liom wall regularly.

Der Liom, if each quater is run how the people inside it want it to be run, surely thats best for everyone? The workers in my quater can see the vast benefits of communism over capitalism, is it fair on thm to be united again under capitalism which they see as immoral? If each quater is run like the way I suggested, it means each quater is happy, and if a siuation arises like the communists lose the election in the peoples region, they would be welcome in mine, and if the capitalists lose the election in my quater, they should be able to move to the capitalist region, surely thats fairest on everyone?

OOC: Why the hell are all these nations like 2 days old with barely any population saying they're going to send in millions of troops? You'll get yourself invaded, seriously.

OOC: im not a n00b im a revived state and i didnt say i was going in i said i was beginning to mobilise my military in the event of a situation that would need them. i understand that it is impossible to mobilise a large force in a short space of time so i started to mobilise them early. i never said that i was 'sending in' troops.

Der Liom, Hazler isn't under occupation, its in the peoples zone.

IC: You really should pay attention britcommie, Hazler is not the Capital of Der Liom, it is a city in the south of the country that is a regional capital of the area you have taken over. The capital is Castletroy. Such an error in the basic task of reading reports seems to show that you are highly unsuited to rule. Maybe you would like to attend some of FluffyMooCows fine schools to attend such wonderful classes as 'The Alphabet for Dummies' and 'How to Construct a Sentence'. Im sure i could grant you a special needs scholarship. How is this for a fair trade, we teach you how to read and you get out of Der Liom?

Yours sincerely
James Groody.
Education Minister, FluffyMooCows.

And although there may be strikes in that region, thats fine by me, production will fall and the economy will implode. In the BC region we are running at naerly maximum output, and the workers can see the benefit of our glorious system. [/quote]

OOC: i think Der Liom can RP his own workers.
IC: the workers in Hazler have shown where their allegience lie. Your hold on the lands in the South of Der Liom are weakening and it is becoming economically inconvienient for you to hold this territory. Also as my state is the regional delagate for Der Liom i have launched severe economic sanctions against the occupiers of Der Liom. The state of Der Liom is landlocked by Confederated Vikings Nations states and none of them will trade with Marxist Warlords. The land of Der Liom has been scarred by a terrible war and the workers of the country are unwilling to work. How will you eat?

Yours dripping with love
Freddy McEvoy
Minister for Finance, FluffyMooCows.

Well nobodies putting sanctions on me, I'm a closed economy, unlike you capitalists I don't rely on trade, so if the wall street crash II happens, I won't be affected :) How about you stop maknig threats when I'm talking about elections? I'm so close to invading you, I'd be careful if I were you.

OOC:Stop rp my people.I said that they see you as an invader and that the whole country is on strike so they are.

IC:Stop your war mongering and leave my country the people have spoken and the international community has spoken.Your hostilities BC towards other countries in my region shows you not to be a liberator but as the opinion poles have suggested nothing more than a foreign invader hungry for more room.

Reports are coming in that hundreds of my people have tried to escape your regime by swimming across the Groody river into neighbouring Kristorg but died in its trecherous white water rapids.They see the hopelessness of their lives now and wish to risk death rather than live in the country that i forged for them.

Well nobodies putting sanctions on me, I'm a closed economy, unlike you capitalists I don't rely on trade, so if the wall street crash II happens, I won't be affected :) How about you stop maknig threats when I'm talking about elections? I'm so close to invading you, I'd be careful if I were you.

OOC: Firstly will all of Liom's allies slow down... I'm working towards a diplomatic solution and I've already got Der Liom's permission to start work on it... I just need one more part for it to start in motion.

You guys are not helping...

IC:

British Communists. It's simple. If they attack you then I will support and maybe even defend you. However if you invade them for nothing I will personally deploy forces to help them... trust me, you wouldn't get far because I can bring alot of military power to a point.

I don't like the threats going around... at least Liom's allies have a reason... but you British Communists should know better.

I've already got trade embargoes against you, CL and Mildonia... but I know they don't have effect and they are just in place to show my condemnation of your hasty action in Liom.

If I declared war on ever nation that threatened me I would have been destroyed by anti-imperialists a long time ago. Calm down.

Now I'm working to free Liom without any fighting and working with the anti-occupation forces to stop all resistance. If you want to help then telegram me... otherwise stop threatening young nations with invasion... cause if you invade them for the reasons I've seen so far I will make a point of helping them militarily. Stop looking like the bad guy.

OOC: I see your 'opinion polls' as Godmoding, never mind if they are your own people or not. Nobody would ever get that high approval in reality: it's unheard of. The only leaders in history to get that high were Stalin (with the NKVD) and Hitler (with the SA).

IC: Can anybody hear me? Why does nobody comment on my idea, which I think is best for everyone?

Also, BC has pointed out that citizens are free to live in whichever sector they like. So they can't really be complaining about his oppression, otherwise they would just simply leave.

Well nobodies putting sanctions on me, I'm a closed economy, unlike you capitalists I don't rely on trade, so if the wall street crash II happens, I won't be affected :) How about you stop maknig threats when I'm talking about elections? I'm so close to invading you, I'd be careful if I were you.

OOC: Firstly will all of Liom's allies slow down... I'm working towards a diplomatic solution and I've already got Der Liom's permission to start work on it... I just need one more part for it to start in motion.

You guys are not helping...

IC:

British Communists. It's simple. If they attack you then I will support and maybe even defend you. However if you invade them for nothing I will personally deploy forces to help them... trust me, you wouldn't get far because I can bring alot of military power to a point.

I don't like the threats going around... at least Liom's allies have a reason... but you British Communists should know better.

I've already got trade embargoes against you, CL and Mildonia... but I know they don't have effect and they are just in place to show my condemnation of your hasty action in Liom.

If I declared war on ever nation that threatened me I would have been destroyed by anti-imperialists a long time ago. Calm down.

Now I'm working to free Liom without any fighting and working with the anti-occupation forces to stop all resistance. If you want to help then telegram me... otherwise stop threatening young nations with invasion... cause if you invade them for the reasons I've seen so far I will make a point of helping them militarily. Stop looking like the bad guy.

the GEM is barelly effected by your "Embargoes" as there are 4 nations within it...so meh... i will be keeping control of my quater untill something the GEM deems respectable is found... also any workers caught on strike will be beaten and if they still refuse... publically flogged

Ah Mister Brit. I dont think you took those reading classes my esteemed colleague Mr Groody recommended for you. Its a pity because now im going to have to spell it out for you. We are not putting sanctions on you, we are putting sanctions on your occupied zone of Der Liom and erecting a blockade around it so you cannot import or export by land, there is no sea routes and air travel is very risky over such hostile territory.

Thanking you.
McEvoy Minister for Finance.
p.s. i would really recommend those classes, and possibly a class called 'Economics: The Real World' so maybe you would understand how to make a little thing called MONEY.


Dear Mr Brit Commie
My intelligence agencies have reported on your military capabilities and I have to thank you for such a light document. I was finished reading it before the usual close of business and i went home for an early night in with the wife if you get me :wink: . As a result i will refrain from responding violently to your threat of war. Your military budget is a lowly 30,000,000 and as you are already involved in a costly conflict in Der Liom im sure that my army would enjoy engaging half of your army. Did you not read the first rule about war? Dont fight a two front war. Oh sorry i heard about your literacy problems, you really should get that fixed old boy. :lol: .

Yours with thanks
Friedrick van der Heyden
Minister of Defence, FluffyMooCows.

p.s.The idea of elections is a possibility but they must be free and fair. There still remains the burning issue of foreign troops on Der Lioms soil.

OOC: I suppose you brits are used to occupying countries and holding onto them long after they are any use to you. cough cough northern ireland cough. :)

OOC: cough cough Ireland was originally British, we never invaded, Eire rebelled and we didn't retaliate (IC Liom take note: LET THE COMMUMNIST MOVEMENT HAVE HAZLER)

OOC: cough cough Ireland was originally British, we never invaded, Eire rebelled and we didn't retaliate (IC Liom take note: LET THE COMMUMNIST MOVEMENT HAVE HAZLER)

ooc: Umm, excuse me there pal, you might want to read a history book before you go commenting about the 800 year oppression of my people. Ireland was populated predominantly by the Celts and the Gaels. We had our own King and Nobility. Your King Henry the 2nd declared himself "Lord of England and Ireland" his claim was unfounded and unsubstantiated. Our people were subjected to rape and plunder for the next few centuries. Your King "confiscated" our lands, and distributed them among his supporters, and, by force of arms, subjugated our people, forcing them into poverty, and much later, famine.

OOC: cough cough Ireland was originally British, we never invaded, Eire rebelled and we didn't retaliate (IC Liom take note: LET THE COMMUMNIST MOVEMENT HAVE HAZLER)

OOC:Do you have any idea about ireland(Eire is the name given to it in the irish language.Nil tu abalta gaeilge a labhairt agus nil cead agat eire a labhairt.=you have no clue about the true language of my people so dont speak its true name Eire in your foreign tongue,to you its ireland)

Ic:Der lioms people have shown that they would rather die than tolerate your so called peoples rublic of Hazler so please let the issue go.

Mise le meas
Liam o Haodha
Taoiseach De Rialtas Shaven beaver eaters

OOC: cough cough Ireland was originally British, we never invaded, Eire rebelled and we didn't retaliate (IC Liom take note: LET THE COMMUMNIST MOVEMENT HAVE HAZLER)

ooc: Umm, excuse me there pal, you might want to read a history book before you go commenting about the 800 year oppression of my people. Ireland was populated predominantly by the Celts and the Gaels. We had our own King and Nobility. Your King Henry the 2nd declared himself "Lord of England and Ireland" his claim was unfounded and unsubstantiated. Our people were subjected to rape and plunder for the next few centuries. Your King "confiscated" our lands, and distributed them among his supporters, and, by force of arms, subjugated our people, forcing them into poverty, and much later, famine.

OOC: cough cough Ireland was originally British, we never invaded, Eire rebelled and we didn't retaliate (IC Liom take note: LET THE COMMUMNIST MOVEMENT HAVE HAZLER)

OOC:Do you have any idea about ireland(Eire is the name given to it in the irish language.Nil tu abalta gaeilge a labhairt agus nil cead agat eire a labhairt.=you have no clue about the true language of my people so dont speak its true name Eire in your foreign tongue,to you its ireland)

Ic:Der lioms people have shown that they would rather die than tolerate your so called peoples rublic of Hazler so please let the issue go.

Mise le meas
Liam o Haodha
Taoiseach De Rialtas Shaven beaver eaters

If you go that far back, you might as well say that the Celts themselves were invaders from Greece. Or that the rest of Europe is Italian after the Romans.


Erm, I don't think the people of Hazler are all that keen on Liom actually...if I remeber correctly, this whole thing started when Hazler declared itself Communist and Liom crushed the rebellion and executed their families. So my guess is that they're pretty cheesed off with him.

The GEM is barelly effected by your "Embargoes" as there are 4 nations within it...so meh... i will be keeping control of my quater untill something the GEM deems respectable is found... also any workers caught on strike will be beaten and if they still refuse... publically flogged

So this is what the GEM is about? Their communist policies are obvicously still in the "Stalinist" stages... you would flog people for peacefully refusing to work?

Ha... and you think this will help communism florish under your quarter?

Clearly your nation is here to help the people. I would offer you help in sorting this mess out, but I doubt you would take it.


Whats more I've already pointed out that a trade embargo will not do anything, it's mearly a condemnation of your imperialist stalinist nation.

FluffyMooCows: A blackade is a declaration of war... before you do it I would suggest you stop and thin of the people in Liom. I will not support you if you do this. They will use it to declare war on you and they will pounce on your population (all of them will... trust me on this) so I would suggest you withdraw it... if you don't I will not protect you.


Sambollaka: While his approval rating is pretty insane, it could just be inpart propergander. But in truth all nations that invaded did so in a bad way... they would support him because his nation wasn't bad to it's people prior to the invasion and now they are occuppied by foriegners. I would be supportive of my old regime if it was taken out by force for little reason... plus most of the nation didn't like communist, now they are being overrun by your nations. I doubt that communism will work here without careful peaceful rule showing the people how nice it is.

However, with Mildonia flogging people and everyone else with large military forces in the nation I doubt any communism will be popular in the nation.

I am working to make this problem go away a bit at a time... I have the anti-occupation forces listening to me and they will stop being so militant if things start looking better.

Communists? Which communists? I think mine died out a few years ago. :D

Erm, I don't think the people of Hazler are all that keen on Liom actually...if I remeber correctly, this whole thing started when Hazler declared itself Communist and Liom crushed the rebellion and executed their families. So my guess is that they're pretty cheesed off with him.

OOC: Actually there was a rebelion there... not the entire region. However now people are going to be nationalistic because they are being run by invaders. So alot of people will be against occupation.

With Liom's permission, my country would gladly deploy 10,000 men to help battle the Communist Invaders. If Liom does not accept our request, we would ask if we could at the least supply his army with weapons.

I'm only talking aobut making the region of Hazler communist, not the whole country! Try actually reading my idea before you comment on it, I think it's on page 15 or 14...

It seems to me that Hazler is some distance away from the base of 'No Left Turn'. Why not give Hazler and a few miles of the surrounding country to the communists, and then give the rest back to Liom on the condition that he makes no military move on the communist sector? That way, everybody is happy.

I'm only talking aobut making the region of Hazler communist, not the whole country! Try actually reading my idea before you comment on it, I think it's on page 15 or 14...


May we suggest a course of action?

It seems to me that Hazler is some distance away from the base of 'No Left Turn'. Why not give Hazler and a few miles of the surrounding country to the communists, and then give the rest back to Liom on the condition that he makes no military move on the communist sector? That way, everybody is happy.

Iuthia would be happy if it was that simple. However it would seem that the occupying nations are not prepared to give Liom back, or at least not back to the way it should be.

What's more the communist rebels were only part of Hazler... not all of it. If they wanted a section to themselves they would have asked for indepenance... it would seem they wanted more then just Hazler to be communist.


Now may I point out again that proir to Liom declaring war the Communist Nations that supported the communist rebels could have been seen as "Terrorists". This was the reason for Liom to declare war even though he didn't get the chance to even mobilise the communist nations invaded so quick, without any diplomacy to try and stop war. This occupation was uncalled for. Liom is not a threat and the sooner this occupation ends the better.

OOC: I am now ignoring the existance of a party called "No Left Turn" because it was created by nations other then Liom, who controls his own nation... however I will acknowledge that "Freedom Fighters" dubbed "Terrorists" by others may actually exist...

The point is that Liom RPs all resistance and at the moment he has only RPed peaceful resistance, such as a majority of the nation being against occupation.

All claims by occupying nations that say his nation supports them are clearly wrong as they do not have the right to RP his people. As such any further claims will be taken as propergander and ignored.

That was silly FluffyMooCows. I could have an army of 4500000, its impossible for you to have an army over 1300000, therefore, bring it on, if you attack my quater the repercussions would come down on you like a tonne of bricks. Every other occupier and about 4 or 5 of my allies would invade your country, you would be decimated, or occupied to make an example of you. However, brign it on if you think you can :)

the GEM is not communist, and has no intentions of being communist, the Greater Empire of Midlonia is just that an Empire... we have no intention of listening to this rot of "peaceful resistence" we were forced to shoot some because we believed they were carrying firearms(OOC: sorta bloody sunday incident) Which we are now investigating thourghly... also we are now considering a reduction or even a total stop if we rase wages by 15%, if we can't scare them, then we will play to their wallets...

Iuthia is starting a peace summit to work out how to end occupation without any further delays. We apologise for our harsh words, but we feel that if your nations want to be seen as willing to help the people of Liom as well as end occupation for good then I would ask theat they at least look into these proposals.

Thanks,

Peace Summit (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2834431#2834431)

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Lord General deGritz, leader of the Iuthian people.
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Apply for an Embassy in Iuthia (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=127023&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0)
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You have my support for a peace-process, Iuthia.

Everyone, stop your war-mongering. The solution is through negotiation.

I have stopped all funds for the Republican resistance, and they have enxacted a cease-fire until neutral nations can replace the occupiers, and free elections can be held.