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http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=127125 ViZion has declared a state of emergency, and is requesting the NWO declare war on terrorists and their supporters. Any nation found to be harboring terrorists, funding terrorists, etc, shall be invaded and destroyed. ViZion is contacting all nations we have worked with who have links to terror-supporters, and the terrorists them selfs.

Come forward now if you support terror, hand over your information, stop helping them, and if you have any terrorists, hand them over. By god, if we find you support them, and you have not come forth, you shall pay. Terrorists have been targetting children, and their latest attacks have pushed ViZion to the edge.

ViZion is mobilizing:
8,000 Ninja Fighters (Raider-Class Jets)
3,000 F-22’s
3,000 SU-30’s
3,000 SU-35’s
3,000 SU-37’s
1,500 JSF’s
1,500 V-22 Helicopter’s
1,500 Mi-24 Helicopters
1,500 Comanche Helicopter’s
1,500 Apache Helicopter’s
1,000 Cobra Attack Helicopter’s
1,000 Seawolf Helicopter’s
1,000 Mi-24 Hind
1,000/2,000 Sikorsky UH-60/S-70 Black Hawk
1,000 B-1 Bombers
1,000 B-52 Bombers
1,000 B-2 Stealth Bombers
200 SR-71 Blackbird Spy Plane v25 Aegis-Class Destroyers
45 Aegis-Class Destroyers
45 Iowa-Class Destroyers
40 Montana-Class Destroyers
20Arleigh Burke class Destroyers
20 Spruance class Destroyers
20 Iroquois class Destroyers
5 Invincible-Class Aircraft Carriers
5 Nimitz-Class Aircraft Carriers
5 Essex-Class Aircraft Carriers
5 Wasp-Class Aircraft Carriers
5 Ranger-Class Aircraft Carriers
5 Yorktown-Class Aircraft Carriers
5 Lexington-Class Aircraft Carriers
5 Forrestal-Class Aircraft Carriers
5 Enterprise-Class Aircraft Carriers
35 Iowa-Class Battleship’s
35 Nelson-Class Battleship’s
30 Virginia-Class Battleship’s
30 Nergal-Class Battleship’s
20 Poseidon-Class Battleship’s
*All ships equipped with Crotale short-range missile system (Crotale System)
100 Rubis Class Nuclear Attack Submarine’s
40 Ohio Class SSBN‘s
10 640-Class SSBN’s
40 Lafayette Class SSBN
20 Russian Typhoon Class SSBN
20 Virginia Class SSN’s
10 Akula Class SSN’s
10 Seawolf-Class SSN’s
10 Los Angeles-Class SSN’s
7.5 million soldiers
4.2 million Marines
10,000 Special Forces
100,000 hummers
20,000 Stryker units
20,000 Bradley Fighting units
3,000 Leopard 2A6 EX’s
3,000 Arjun’s
10,000 Chieftain (FV 4201)
10,000 M8 AGS’s
10,000 Stingray II’s
10,000 GDLS 120S’s
10,000 Ramses 2
10,000 Vickers Mk7
10,000 M1A2’s
10,000 M1A1’s
12,000 M2’s

The CFA's defenses are being put up, and, excluding allied planes, The CFA is a no-fly area.

The CFA's missile defense system is also prepared.

We call to all alliances and the NWO to join us.

Official Statement by the Tsar of Dr_Twist

This Morning Terrible Terrorist attacks have Rocked a lot of Allied Nations. Well today we throw down the Gauntlet, ANY nation Harboring Terrorists would be an act of War on the ASDU, If Fellow NWO nations wish to follow suit they are welcome and is encouraged.

THIS ENDS TODAY.

Tsar of Dr_Twist King of the Bulgarian Empire Philip the 18th.

OCC: Vizion By Alliance Rules only the alliance you control can Declare war on Terrorism, if NWO nations follow they can and i highly suggest they do.

Official Statement by the Tsar of Dr_Twist

This Morning Terrible Terrorist attacks have Rocked a lot of Allied Nations. Well today we throw down the Gauntlet, ANY nation Harboring Terrorists would be an act of War on the ASDU, If Fellow NWO nations wish to follow suit they are welcome and is encouraged.

THIS ENDS TODAY.

Tsar of Dr_Twist King of the Bulgarian Empire Philip the 18th.

OCC: Vizion By Alliance Rules only the alliance you control can Declare war on Terrorism, if NWO nations follow they can and i highly suggest they do.
OOC: Yes, I know... I used that title to get ATTN to this... then I said, I request help from NWO...

I declare war on all nations which harbor terrorist. Not only will my soliders not give mercy to terrorist but it will execeute any leader harboring them and funding them Mark these words you will be punished for your cowardly attacks you proceed with terrorist .

Hattia's military is already strained to the limit and we cannot spare any troops to help.

alas i beleive my country can not provide troops at the current moment but we will keep all the braves souls in prayer.

We know a nation named Maomarxland is involved in working with them. If I remember the name, I'll give it to you...

Thank you this is a better lead now

The AZK's small army is up to the job!


These following troops are being deployed

Fully armed Army: 50,000, 200 M1A2 Abrams, 200 Hummvees, 100 bradley's, 100 Linebackers, 50 SA2's, (5 Divisions). Fresh out of war

Fully armed Marines: 16,000 , 100 M1A2 Abrams , 100 Humvees(2Divisions). Fresh out of War

Fully armed Special Foces: 1,000 (5 regiments) and 100 Little Bird Transport Helicpoters

Fully armed Navy: 50 one-hundred man transports, 1 sub,1 carrier,50 patrol boats.

Fully armed Air Force: 100 F-16's, 75 F/A - 18's. Fresh out of war

Fully armed Missile Systems: 200 SCUDS (4 divisions)

Personall for equipmet: 11,000 (9 Divisions)

We know a nation named Maomarxland is involved in working with them. If I remember the name, I'll give it to you...
Thank you. We move to Maomarxland!

I have an infatry of 123.34 million coming to your aid

I have an infatry of 123.34 million coming to your aid Ummm... no you dont... that's larger then your entire population...

Glassk has no choice but to condemn this offensive action as nothing more than a land-grab being carried out by desperate countries too near-sighted to perform adequate inquiries into these so-called "terrorist harbours".

Oh, and, I know Maomarxism is involved... When I worked with Egypstan, before we were forced to surrender, we knew Maomarxism was with Egypstan... Oh, ya, I forgot to tell ya, he worked w/ and helped in the Croniun invasion of ViZion... and he supports Egypstan

Glassk has no choice but to condemn this offensive action as nothing more than a land-grab being carried out by desperate countries too near-sighted to perform adequate inquiries into these so-called "terrorist harbours".
Excuse me? Land grabbing? No, we are not imperialists. You dare to stand up for supporters of people who slaughter children for money, power, and some grins?

Do not challenge me at this state. My children, and my allies children, have been slaughtered. ViZion will not tolerate any of this. No longer. It is done for. Over with. It is time for them to GO!

YEAH, DOWN WITH TERRORISM. After this campaign I'll have to let my troops rest.

YEAH, DOWN WITH TERRORISM. After this campaign I'll have to let my troops rest.
Agreed.

Our troops have been quite busy over the past 2 weeks or so... extremely busy..

I think it was three wars for mine....

But where does it end? How does one classify a terrorist? You propose to invade a country on the basis that some group within has been carrying out violent action against your states with a massive amount of troops and equipment, when there is no clear distinction between a "terrorist" and anyone else.

If they drive a car up to a chemical weapons lab and set it off.... that would be terrorism and bombing it from the air or missiling it would be considered proper...

Why? It's accomplishing similar goals with varying methods.

If you kill a man with a gun or a rock, he's still dead either way.

But where does it end? How does one classify a terrorist? You propose to invade a country on the basis that some group within has been carrying out violent action against your states with a massive amount of troops and equipment, when there is no clear distinction between a "terrorist" and anyone else.
Maomarxism is SUPPORTING these terrorists.. who, you could also call child-killers.. .murderers... child-slayers... because, they is what they are. Maomarxism is SUPPORTING them. We will not stand for you. If you support them, you are just as guilty of killing children as the terrorists who have done this. Stand back, that is an order. Yes, an order.

We are also going after any other nation who supports these terrorists.

Yes, but at least when there are planes or Missiles you can dect them and get citizens out of there. Also terrorist don't declare war as on the other hand the nation that uses bombs or missiles usually and should seclare war first.

Why? It's accomplishing similar goals with varying methods.

No. Killing people is terrorism. Supporting those terrorists are just as guilty. Fighting to end the terrorism is called saving lives. We aren't going to go kill their children. No. We aren't going go to rape their women. No. We are going to take out their government, and round up the terrorists. Yes. We will prosecute them accordingly. Yes.

You obviously support them, don't you?

That's odd. Glassk believed ViZion was a nation built on the concept of fair-handedness and justice, not totalitarian and militaristic conquest.

And because we do not support the military action of invasion does not mean we support any kind of "terrorist" group or activity. We simply wish to convey the principle that your invasion will cause the deaths of innocent people.

That's odd. Glassk believed ViZion was a nation built on the concept of fair-handedness and justice, not totalitarian and militaristic conquest.

And because we do not support the military action of invasion does not mean we support any kind of "terrorist" group or activity. We simply wish to convey the principle that your invasion will cause the deaths of innocent people.

And if we wont, there will be more death. If we don't, we, too, will be murderers of whom ever the terrorists attack next. If we do not end this now, these deaths by these terrorists and their supporters will continue growing, more and more, along with fear of them, and their profits.

You're right, we are based on fair-handedness and justice, not on totalitarianism and militaristic conquest (imperialism). We are simply here to end these murderers days, and end their supporters days. We will not conquer their nations and claim it as our own. We fight that. We will, once we oust their government, begin to help rebuild them, and have their people get the government in of their choice. Once that is done, we leave.

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Credonia will join in on this war against terrorism. We have long been opposed to terrorism and have on more than one occasion fallen victim to malacious attacks by terrorists whos main goal is to serve their selfish self inttrests for the betterment of themselves and themselves only.

Credonia will join in on this war against terrorism. We have long been opposed to terrorism and have on more than one occasion fallen victim to malacious attacks by terrorists whos main goal is to serve their selfish self inttrests for the betterment of themselves and themselves only. Thank you!

Two current wars w/ terror nations:

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2815712#2815712
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2813122

Now you have the gaul to call yourself fair-handed?! Just recently you threatened Glassk with invasion! You ordered us about! That sounds less like a Democratic peace-loving nation and more of a fascist regime similar to Italy or Germany in the late 1930s and early 1940s.

Obviously no lesson was learnt from the 1950s with the ascension of McCarthy and his communist witch-hunt which created nothing but international fear.

There is a problem, but the vast expenditure needed for wide-scale mobilization and your willingness to sacrifice your own troops in this effort is startling. I'm sure your citizen populations would have something to say about your want to send troops into some country they've never heard of. Vietnam s a prime example of the disharmony this could cause.

Look Glassk, if I were you i'd just shutup. Oh and yea, terrorism is something that cannot be destroyed - unlike a tank or a missile.

Now you have the gaul to call yourself fair-handed?! Just recently you threatened Glassk with invasion! You ordered us about! That sounds less like a Democratic peace-loving nation and more of a fascist regime similar to Italy or Germany in the late 1930s and early 1940s.

Obviously no lesson was learnt from the 1950s with the ascension of McCarthy and his communist witch-hunt which created nothing but international fear.
Umm, I never threatened you wish invasion...??

So you gauge whether something is an attack is a terrorist or 'proper' (stupid term) attack by whether they have enough ime to evacuate and whether they had a previous warning. So those two planes on 9/11 everyone saw them. so do you wanna change the rule in the case of a larger area? so when you attack the people in moamarxism you are going to tell them to evacuate the area before ou bomb it? or to get out of the tank before you destroy it?
i think not.
And how else are, say palestinians (that old gem) going to get noticed? How many times do you see a big news report on a peacful march in palestine? Never- thats when.

The truth is you are wrong. No matter how you try to justify yourself.

So you gauge whether something is an attack is a terrorist or 'proper' (stupid term) attack by whether they have enough ime to evacuate and whether they had a previous warning. So those two planes on 9/11 everyone saw them. so do you wanna change the rule in the case of a larger area? so when you attack the people in moamarxism you are going to tell them to evacuate the area before ou bomb it? or to get out of the tank before you destroy it?
i think not.
And how else are, say palestinians (that old gem) going to get noticed? How many times do you see a big news report on a peacful march in palestine? Never- thats when.

The truth is you are wrong. No matter how you try to justify yourself.
We are sending in troops... and they know we are coming, they were sent a TG, plus, they have had time to react and hand over the terrorsits.

We are prepared to do what is needed to defend ourselves and our allies.

-Emperor Crossman, ruler of the Holy Empire of Crossman and sovereign of Crossman Prime
http://www.angelfire.com/pa2/HoenirMegas/images/vader3.gif

(OOC: Ooops..double post)

Credonia News Network 2/28/2004

Credonia Puts ALL Forces On Military Alert In Response To Influx Of Terrorist Attacks Worldwide

Just moments ago, Emperor Alexander Sutton ordered all of Credonia's military forces to DEFCON 2 in response to terrorist attacks happening on many of its allies. Before being whisked into the skies by 'Credonia One', he stated the following: "Credonia has a committment to keep with our allies and to the world and we will uphold thta obligation. We cannot allow these terrorists to get away with killing hundreds and thousands of people, let alone at the same time and in multiple countries. I pledge that Credonia will commit its time and energy to bringing down these selfish barbarians who have no regard for human life. It is time that Credonia once again step forward and help lead the effort against terrorism as we have been so famed for in the past. To our allies, we will help and we give our word that we will find these bastards and smite them from the face of the earth with our allies. Be strong, we must band together and fight these forces. We must stay united, and united shall we be in defeating these evil peoples."

It is said that Credonian military forces will remain in somalia and Aust and control the situations there in those nations, however, all other forces will be recalled and put on active alert. All non mobilized forces are now mobilizing and preparing for orders. Military forces in Stapestry are also preparing for war but only 40% of the forces will be mobilized and used. Stay tuned for developments on this situation.

Credonia News Network 2/28/2004

Credonia Puts ALL Forces On Military Alert In Response To Influx Of Terrorist Attacks Worldwide

Just moments ago, Emperor Alexander Sutton ordered all of Credonia's military forces to DEFCON 2 in response to terrorist attacks happening on many of its allies. Before being whisked into the skies by 'Credonia One', he stated the following: "Credonia has a committment to keep with our allies and to the world and we will uphold thta obligation. We cannot allow these terrorists to get away with killing hundreds and thousands of people, let alone at the same time and in multiple countries. I pledge that Credonia will commit its time and energy to bringing down these selfish barbarians who have no regard for human life. It is time that Credonia once again step forward and help lead the effort against terrorism as we have been so famed for in the past. To our allies, we will help and we give our word that we will find these bastards and smite them from the face of the earth with our allies. Be strong, we must band together and fight these forces. We must stay united, and united shall we be in defeating these evil peoples."

It is said that Credonian military forces will remain in somalia and Aust and control the situations there in those nations, however, all other forces will be recalled and put on active alert. All non mobilized forces are now mobilizing and preparing for orders. Military forces in Stapestry are also preparing for war but only 40% of the forces will be mobilized and used. Stay tuned for developments on this situation.

Thank you. We will end their days.

Hogsweat
Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2004 3:40 pm****Post subject:
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Look Glassk, if I were you i'd just shutup. Oh and yea, terrorism is something that cannot be destroyed - unlike a tank or a missile.

Yet another threat. If only the representatives of these potentially fine countries would at least attempt to be civil.

The Nation of Matich declares war on Terror today. All military forces are at DEFCON 2. We will hunt down and kill any terrorists we find no matter what the cost and no matter where we have to go. Terrorism will not stand! We will not sit by and watch as our allies civilians including children are massacred by these cowards. All nations that harbor and support terrorism we urge you to turn them over and cease these actions or you will pay the price.


President Matich

Hogsweat
Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2004 3:40 pm****Post subject:
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Look Glassk, if I were you i'd just shutup. Oh and yea, terrorism is something that cannot be destroyed - unlike a tank or a missile.

Yet another threat. If only the representatives of these potentially fine countries would at least attempt to be civil.

Tell me... what is civil about not doing anything to stop people from killng children for no reason but money, power, and death? There is nothing civil about that. We are only encouraging terrorism if we do not stop it.

The actions you are taking could very well result in a global-scale war, which would end easily witht he deaths of billions of people. Children included. Would it not be wise to, instead of waging a massive-scale war on countries harboring terrorists, impose economic sanctions and embargoes to cut off terrorist support and put pressure on the governing bodies of these countries?

The actions you are taking could very well result in a global-scale war, which would end easily witht he deaths of billions of people. Children included. Would it not be wise to, instead of waging a massive-scale war on countries harboring terrorists, impose economic sanctions and embargoes to cut off terrorist support and put pressure on the governing bodies of these countries?
Those who are supporting terrorists have been given a chance to hand them over and be rewarded. They will not do it. For that, we will take their government out.

The actions you are taking could very well result in a global-scale war, which would end easily witht he deaths of billions of people. Children included. Would it not be wise to, instead of waging a massive-scale war on countries harboring terrorists, impose economic sanctions and embargoes to cut off terrorist support and put pressure on the governing bodies of these countries?


Then the terrorists would continue attacking. You must kill the terrorists there is no other way of stopping them.

But hunting them will merely make them martyrs! Do you not see the irony?! By killing them, you will empower them. Hatred for your countries will increase, and this will not end swiftly, but it shall be drawn out into a long and bloody guerilla war, in which many innocent people will die.

But hunting them will merely make them martyrs! Do you not see the irony?! By killing them, you will empower them. Hatred for your countries will increase, and this will not end swiftly, but it shall be drawn out into a long and bloody guerilla war, in which many innocent people will die.
They must be stopped by someone, sometime. They will only kill more, and we will have no honor in our selves, and the children, if we do not stop them. They will continue killing, killing children. They will make people live in fear. They must be stopped by someone, sometime. That time has come.

But hunting them will merely make them martyrs! Do you not see the irony?! By killing them, you will empower them. Hatred for your countries will increase, and this will not end swiftly, but it shall be drawn out into a long and bloody guerilla war, in which many innocent people will die.
They must be stopped by someone, sometime. They will only kill more, and we will have no honor in our selves, and the children, if we do not stop them. They will continue killing, killing children. They will make people live in fear. They must be stopped by someone, sometime. That time has come.


Exactly

It is apparent you have gone mad with power. You see yourself as the angel of death. Your megalomaniac policies will be frowned upon. Going to war will not win you popularity.

It is apparent you have gone mad with power. You see yourself as the angel of death. Your megalomaniac policies will be frowned upon. Going to war will not win you popularity. Maybe war won't win me populatity. I do not care about that. I care only to stop these murderers before they kill more children.

I do not see my self an the angel of death. I do not see my self as an angel of anything. I see myself as merely a man of integrity, doing all he can in his might to stop these terrorists from killing more children.

Soviet Minister of Defense steps on Podium

Today Comrades,Is the day that terrorist everywhere shall fall under the boots of justice.With the recent terror attacks on our allys..and other nations from terror organizations around the world..We have decided to join the good fight.We ask all nations harboring terrorist to turn them over to us,and we ask ask all terrorist to give up arms and surrender peacefully.

Soviet Forces below.
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Red Army:
16,000,000 Men total
10,000,000 Active Service
6,000,000 Reserves
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Red Army "Spetsnaz" Special Forces
25,000
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Red Army Medics:
100,000
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Red Army Repair Crew:
300,000
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Red Army Weapons.
Army has choice of M-16 and Ak-47 Assault Rifles
Secondary Weapon is the 9mm M9 Baretta..standard issued
Soldiers are equipped with Gas Mask and Biohazard Battlefield Suits
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Red Army Fighting Vehicles:
56,000 BMP-3 Fighting Vehicles.
60,000 BTR-80 Armored Personnel Carriers
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Red Army Transports:
75,000 Humvees
73,000 APCs
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Red Army Tanks:
35,000 T-90S Tanks
35,000 T-80U Tanks
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Rocket Launcher Systems:
30,000 9K58 Smerch Rocket Launcher.
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Towed Artillery:
30,000 152-mm Towed Gun-Howitzer
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Anti-Aircraft Weapons:
30,000 ZSU-57 Anti-Aircraft Guns
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Anti-Tank Weapons:
40,000 Ataka-V VIKhR 9M120 Anti-Tank Weapon
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Self-Propelled Artillery:
30,000 ASU-85 Airborne Assault Gun
30,000 2S23 Nona-SVK Self-Propelled Gun Mortor
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Nuclear-Powered Ballistic Missiles Submarines:
17 Typhoon Class Ballistic Submarines
10 Delta-IV Ballistic Missles Submarines
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Nuclear Powered Cruise Missle Submarines:
13 Oscar II Submarines
19 Oscar I Submarines
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Nuclear-Powered Attack Submarines:
50 Akula Class Submarines
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Diesel Attack Submarines:
24 Kilo Class Submarines
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Aircraft Carriers:
9 Orel-II Class Carriers
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Red Navy Cruisers:
22 Kirov Class Cruisers
10 Krasina Class Guided Missle Cruisers
13 Kresta Class Cruisers
10 Sverdlov Class Cruiers
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Red Navy Destroyers:
20 Sovremenny Class Guides Missile Destroyers
16 Udaloy Class Guided Missile Destroyers
19 Kara Class Guided Missile Destroyers
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Red Navy Corvettes:
25 Bora Class Corvettes
30 Parchim Class Corvettes
14 Molniya Missile Boats
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Red Navy Frigates
38 Neustrashimy Class Frigates
20 Krival Class Frigate
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Red Navy Coastal Mine Hunter
19 Sveriv Class Mine Hunters
15 Kemiv Class Mine Hunters
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Red Airforce Carrier Aircraft Fighter-Bombers
300 Su-33
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Red Navy Fighter Aircraft:
100 MiG-29ks
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Red Navy Troop Landing Craft:
1,000 Pomornik Class Amphibious Landing Craft
1,000 Ivan Rogov Landing Craft
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Red Airforce Rotary Aircraft:
1,100 Mi-28 HAVOCS
1.500 MI-24 HIND D/E
1,500 Mi-35s
2,000 MI-8T Transport Copters
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Red Airforce Transport Aircraft:
500 AN-124 CONDOR(ANTONOV)
300 AN-72 Coaler
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Red Airforce Fighter Planes:
1,500 Su-27 Flankers
1,500 MiG-29SMT Fulcrums
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Red Army Fighter Bombers:
1,500 Su-37 Super Flankers
1,500 Su-30MKK
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Red Airforce Bombers:
900 Tu-160 BLACKJACK
200 Tu-22M Bear Bombers
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Tanker Aircraft:
400 I1-78 Midas
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Nuclear/Theater Missles:
500 RT-21Ms
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Nuclear ICBMS:
150 SS-25 Scapels
150 Topol-M SS-27s
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Nuclear Bombs:
13,000 10 Megaton Bombs
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Surface to Air Missles:
600 Triumf S-400
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Note:large number of naval forces involved in assault on DUD.

Forces prepared to fight the terrorist.

If you truly would want to do everything in your might to save the lives of children, you would not be so rash as to send a slaughter-house of troops to another country.

Peaceful and tactical action must be taken first before military and strategic action.

If you truly would want to do everything in your might to save the lives of children, you would not be so rash as to send a slaughter-house of troops to another country.

Peaceful and tactical action must be taken first before military and strategic action.


Peaceful action will not work. Terrorists will only continue to kill civilians.

Can we pick a target to strike, please?

And you just assume it won't work. You're blind. You propose to throw the world into turmoil!

Continue your war if you think that you must, but be warned: There will be dire consequences.

OOC: Shit, could someone bring me up to date on what's happened thus far? I'm in the NWO, and am anti-terrorist...I'd like to help out.

OOC: Shit, could someone bring me up to date on what's happened thus far? I'm in the NWO, and am anti-terrorist...I'd like to help out.

OOC:Egyptstan terrorist are attacking everyone and there mothers basically...so we're mobilizing to stop them.

OOC: Shit, could someone bring me up to date on what's happened thus far? I'm in the NWO, and am anti-terrorist...I'd like to help out.

OOC:Egyptstan terrorist are attacking everyone and there mothers basically...so we're mobilizing to stop them.
They aren't in Egypstan btw... Egypstan is seperate from this issue and wishes to help... they're now apparently called Terror of the World..

Due to it's anti-terrorist stance, and it's position in NWO, FPS has gone to Terror Alert Yellow, and gone to defcon 4. As soon as a target area is located, FPS military forces will move there immediatly (their already ready to mobilize).

And you just assume it won't work. You're blind. You propose to throw the world into turmoil!

Continue your war if you think that you must, but be warned: There will be dire consequences. And you assume we have never tried it in the past.

Can we pick a target to strike, please?
No. Only specified nations will be targetted.

And even then, you may not pick any target you wish.

The actions you are taking could very well result in a global-scale war, which would end easily witht he deaths of billions of people. Children included. Would it not be wise to, instead of waging a massive-scale war on countries harboring terrorists, impose economic sanctions and embargoes to cut off terrorist support and put pressure on the governing bodies of these countries?

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I hope you realize that NWO crusade against evil has ideologically nothing in common with the RL "war against terror", which I believe is exactly all you have been recriminating to ViZion and more; I would agree with you if you were speaking to the USA government, but you aren't; you are telling all that to someone you believe is doing the same in NS.

Keep focused on what is going on HERE in NationStates, in which there are entire nations designed only for performing terrorist attacks and extorting money and power with them, they are not fighting for a cause, they are just in it for the power for themselves, and they are mostly not good RPers that think they can turn a whole nation into a terrorist organization, without taking into account that such an org. with 200 million people would destroy itself in no time.

If these nations roleplayers have such an extreme point of view, that doesn't allow ideological matters of the people they manage to intervene at all in the decitions of the nation, and that they suppousedly obey every one of their wishes, then... how do you proppose to get rid of them?

If you tell them that they are under siege, and nothing can enter their nation, then they tell you they are self sufficient... next thing you know they are godmodding and you have ither to ignore them or send your full military to crush them.
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The people of Bariloche wishes not to wage war without it being for defending themselves.

Being it so, the government cannot involve the nation in a war against terrorism, since we would not defend the people from anything, we would in fact make ourselves a bigger target for terrorist attacks.

Each "terrorist" organization must be treated case by case. First we must make sure that the terrorist attacks are the expression of an organization to achieve power they are not entitled with by law or the people's will (only source of sovereignity recognized by the Community of Bariloche).

If the "terrorist" organization is only in fact the matterialization of the people's will, which cannot be expressed in any other way in the current state of politics, you cannot see their acts as terrorism. If it is within one's country, the government must dialogue with the organization as long as it considers itself democratic.

The terrorism that I believe ViZion and the NWO wants to target (and that apparently the government of Glassk does not understand as such), is the kind in which a terrorist organization is stablished by a foreing government or simply an entire nation with the consent of its government makes terrorist attacks; with the only objective of destroying another government or nation, by means not considered normal in a defensive war, such as deliberatedly targeting the civilian population and/or the matterial support of the same (population water supply, medical institutions, etc).

This cannot be allowed by any NationState that observes the diplomatic rules of behavior, and strives to maintain war only as a defensive method. If the government of Glassk really consider itself as democratic, then it should try to end this kind of terrorism, of course not by war if that is not acceptable to them, but actions must be taken.

Glassk can be against the actions ViZion wants to take, but they must ask themselves if they are with or against ViZion's stated enemies. If they are with them, defend them, if they are against, then stand back from this possition of simple critic and lobby for other type of actions to be taken.

Heck... Glassk's government could even start a world-wide movement to end terrorism by peaceful means (OOC if you really meant the things you said and you aren't just the puppet of an authoritarian and terrorist country :lol: ).

Being a Protector of the Legion of Defence, the Community of Bariloche understands that war is the last ressort, and it's only to be used when all diplomatic sources have ended. If a nation suppoorts terrorist acts and does not wish at all to have diplomacy as a tool, then what can a government do other than responding?

This obviously does not include organizations not attached to national governments. Such organizations must be treated as common criminals and must be taken down within the laws of each nation.

Respectfully,

Pablo Bernal
President
Community of Bariloche
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So vizion what we are to do is sit around twidling our thumbs while terrorists blow the crap out of our schools?

Bariloche - wow :shock: nice post there!
Free Rumania - Umm, huh? I'm saying we need to go to war... check this: http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2813122

Message to Glassk:
The government notes with grave concern your recent remarks in sympathy with those who harbor terror. This is our response.
You have until tommorrow to fully renounce all forms of terrorism and proactively join the hunt for the terrorists or the United States will have no choice but to consider you a terror sympathizer. In which case, I will have no choice but to invade your nation and oust its pro terror government.
That is all. You have until tommorrow.

Bariloche - wow :shock: nice post there!

Seconded. A good post like that should have counted as +10 for Bariloche's post count.

Bariloche - wow :shock: nice post there!

Seconded. A good post like that should have counted as +10 for Bariloche's post count.

:oops: Thank you very much to both of you

I am firmly aganst terrorism and will do everything in my power to stop it. I will mobilize 200 tanks, 300 hipachie helicopteres, 40 bomber planes, 60 fighter planes, make this top priority for my delta force and my newly formed simbarly fighters who are highly trained in weapondry, stealth tactics, hand to hand combat and explosives to capture these thugs. Also I will foces my special ops to capture these thugs. I also will contribute a few of my destroyers and gunboats. I will also make my marines, navy seals, soilderes, assaissins and gurrila forces to focus on this problem. And contribute 9,787,000 dollares plus the help of my lite police forces to stop this

Whittier is already at war with the terrorists.

Vizion when the Mao guy is around we can beat the turds out of him but right now he isn't online.

Vizion when the Mao guy is around we can beat the turds out of him but right now he isn't online.
Looks like he's the least of our worries atm...

The Dr_Twist Government is a little Worried we continue that War on Terror but no 1 has released a policy of what actually terrorism yet, there are all different forums, form for Independence of nations and others just for killing innocent people, we want this clarified ASAP in 1 single policy.

The Dr_Twist Government is a little Worried we continue that War on Terror but no 1 has released a policy of what actually terrorism yet, there are all different forums, form for Independence of nations and others just for killing innocent people, we want this clarified ASAP in 1 single policy.
Agreed.
A terrorist is one who attacks innocent civilians like women and children and people who cannot defend themselves. A terrorist is someone who engages in violence for the sake of political cause.
A terrorist sympathizer is a nation that give aid or refuge to terror, sympathizes with them, denounces or in any other way opposes the war on terror.

Protests have erupted in SP over the governments declaration that violence on behalf of a political cause is terrorism.
Civilians in Tahiti have begun rioting and attacking police in response.

A terrorist is someone who engages in violence for the sake of (EDIT: their own power and greed.)

Message to Glassk:
The government notes with grave concern your recent remarks in sympathy with those who harbor terror. This is our response.
You have until tommorrow to fully renounce all forms of terrorism and proactively join the hunt for the terrorists or the United States will have no choice but to consider you a terror sympathizer. In which case, I will have no choice but to invade your nation and oust its pro terror government.
That is all. You have until tommorrow.

Glassk has never harboured nor has it ever supported terrorists or terrorist states.

OOC We, like Gandhi's Congress Party, simply wish to convey a sense of meaning to your military actions.

Message to Glassk:
The government notes with grave concern your recent remarks in sympathy with those who harbor terror. This is our response.
You have until tommorrow to fully renounce all forms of terrorism and proactively join the hunt for the terrorists or the United States will have no choice but to consider you a terror sympathizer. In which case, I will have no choice but to invade your nation and oust its pro terror government.
That is all. You have until tommorrow.

Glassk has never harboured nor has it ever supported terrorists or terrorist states.

OOC We, like Gandhi's Congress Party, simply wish to convey a sense of meaning to your military actions.

You have proof of that?

I am currently holding 178 terrorists in a safely location, they have been interogated and they clame to come from the nation GLA Terrorists.
They also said that the Prez of GLA had 220 Bio- Nuclear Warheads and Hydrogen missiles whom he would fire on anyone whom attacked a terrorist country.

GLA Terrorists should also be a prime suspect.

OOC: how could they get and maintain such technology if they are in nations that condone it. Its not possible, besudes you would need to errect facilities and gather the right materials to house and maintain these missiles. With the nations that are looking for them, thats dang near impossible. They cant possibly have missile technology unles a terrorist nation allows them to use their nation to house them

Why aren't I suprised to see you here, Credonia.
You've started few wars already, won't you finish them first???

the war on terror IS my war. Im the one who started it.

[tagged for probable intervention. We have been involved in wars on terror, and will support our ally Credonia all the way.]