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ViZion is spear-heading a crackdown on terrorists and their supporters, which has been dubbed "Coalition Against Terror" enlight of many recent terrorist attacks, highlighted by Egypstan's terrorists (who fled once Egypstan was invaded... Egypstan's nation has nothing to do w/ it...) attacking schools and child-care centers, ViZion is announcing its plans to huntdown, and prosicute those terrorists who use to reside in Egypstan. Following that, we will list another group of terror organizations.

ViZion requests help from nations abroad... These terrorists have killed many children... they are TARGETTING children... Your children could be next in line... These murderers must be stopped.

I'll help out.

I'll help out. Thank you.

I will help with syupport these actions!! I also think any one cuaght and proven guilty of terrorism should be sent to death row by defualt... well sorta

i'll help out

The counter-terriorist trained elves are being deployed to all nations that partispated in the war against egyptsian and lower egypt to help on this terrioristic threat.

Hattia is willing to deploy the 75th Hat Guard Anti-Terror division to help...

Shamelessly advertises for the CTC

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=123702&start=0

This is the Tropical Paradise Regional Counter Terrorism Training College. We train special forces of the world to deal with terrorism in a highly evolving, fast paced environment.

I see two sides to this:

Good:

1) Rid the world of a terrible distraction
2) Save many innocent lives

Bad:

1) Adverse affect on world opinion
2) So broad and vague that you may never know who you are up against at any given time.



As your ally ViZion, you know I enjoy informing you of my opinions. Nevertheless you have Jarridian support. We shall aide in any means necessary.

Karakiemos is willing to help aid the wounded and otherwise victimized civilians in these terrorist attacks, although we will not use military action.

To arrive by Helicopter (within 24 hours)
153 medical personnel
enough medical supplies to aid around 200 wounded

To arrive by Sea (within 72 hours)
769 medical personnel
enough medical supplies to aid an additional 1000 wounded
32 AA's (armored ambulances) with ample personnel

We will aid as much as we need to do so.

Signed,
Presided William Bourdeau

We thank everyones help.

We issue this warning: Nations affiliated with Egypstanian terrorists, come forth and provide your information, and hand over those who have fled to your nation (Egypstanian terrorists and gov't officials) and you shall not be harmed. If we find you are keeping information, or harboring any Egypstanians, you shall be properly delt with.

ARM will send our SpecOps/anti-terror units to aid you

what kind help do you need vizion?

what kind help do you need vizion? We need intellegence (OOC note: spies)... we need to find out who's working with Egypstanian terrorists and their old, ousted government, who I know is profitting from these attacks... we must catch them...

No problem...I can put some Arabic-looking ROSSI agents at your disposal

I'll help you... protect innocen from a blin quest for vengeance....

If during this "crackdown" feel the need to go outside your own borders and into unwilling nations I am afraid I will have to ake my best efforts to block your efforts....

I've seen too much done in the name of Anti-Terrorism... Ever consider the terrorists have a valid reason for the attacks?

If during this "crackdown" feel the need to go outside your own borders and into unwilling nations I am afraid I will have to ake my best efforts to block your efforts....
It all depends on what evidence we have. We will not invade a nation we have no evidence about. We will, however, invade, if the need arises, a nation we have PROOF is harboring the fugitive Egypstanian government and/or terrorists, and they refuse to hand them over for prosecution...

I've seen too much done in the name of Anti-Terrorism... Ever consider the terrorists have a valid reason for the attacks?
Please tell me what killing innocent children does for their "cause"... Egypstanian terrorists are backed by the old, ousted Egypstanian government, who has always caused problems, committing genocide and oppressing everyone else... they like to see suffering... and they get profit from it. What kind of cause is that?

only thing i can do is provide naval suppors.
Including air strikes.
so if you need any help ill send a couple of ships

My counter-terrorists have arrived in thier assigned nations and are waiting for further instructions from te country's leader(s). The government sends out a 2nd group of units , but spies not counter-terriorist , to help with the terror threat.

I'll help you... protect innocen from a blin quest for vengeance....

If during this "crackdown" feel the need to go outside your own borders and into unwilling nations I am afraid I will have to ake my best efforts to block your efforts....

I've seen too much done in the name of Anti-Terrorism... Ever consider the terrorists have a valid reason for the attacks?
hde brings up a goiod point
like how they clear mine fields by tellin children if they walk straight they'll meet allah

WHittier is part of this coalition against terror.

If during this "crackdown" feel the need to go outside your own borders and into unwilling nations I am afraid I will have to ake my best efforts to block your efforts....
It all depends on what evidence we have. We will not invade a nation we have no evidence about. We will, however, invade, if the need arises, a nation we have PROOF is harboring the fugitive Egypstanian government and/or terrorists, and they refuse to hand them over for prosecution...

Don't you think attacking a third country only because it gave asylum to a fugitive government is an imperialistic action? there are other possibilities to make them hand over war criminals. Attacking a country, that has not taken any actions against you (and giving asylum is no action against you) is a war crime itself!

If during this "crackdown" feel the need to go outside your own borders and into unwilling nations I am afraid I will have to ake my best efforts to block your efforts....
It all depends on what evidence we have. We will not invade a nation we have no evidence about. We will, however, invade, if the need arises, a nation we have PROOF is harboring the fugitive Egypstanian government and/or terrorists, and they refuse to hand them over for prosecution...

Don't you think attacking a country only because it gave asylum to a fugitive government is an imperialistic action?
The invasion of Whittier territory and the killing of whittierites on whittier territory and the funding and granting of refuge to those who carried such crimes constitutes an act of war. By granting refuge, nations give up their soverignty rights.

If during this "crackdown" feel the need to go outside your own borders and into unwilling nations I am afraid I will have to ake my best efforts to block your efforts....
It all depends on what evidence we have. We will not invade a nation we have no evidence about. We will, however, invade, if the need arises, a nation we have PROOF is harboring the fugitive Egypstanian government and/or terrorists, and they refuse to hand them over for prosecution...

Don't you think attacking a country only because it gave asylum to a fugitive government is an imperialistic action?
The invasion of Whittier territory and the killing of whittierites on whittier territory and the funding and granting of refuge to those who carried such crimes constitutes an act of war. By granting refuge, nations give up their soverignty rights.

Correct...
If someone harbors people who attack and kill your children for no other cause but profit and terrorizing people, then they are just as guilty, and it is an act of war.

WHittier is part of this coalition against terror.
Ooo... I like that name... ok, new name everybody!
"Coalition Against Terror"

By granting refuge, nations give up their soverignty rights.

Hossa! You are fast in denying a nation's sovereignity. too fast I think.

Eridu wishes to be of assistance.
We recently arrested several suspicious persons with maps of bases and government buildings in Free Rumania in their cars. The reason we thought them suspicious is that we also found C4 explosives, western union money receipts and detailed plans for an attack on the Russian Forces embassy in Eridu.
They will be handed over to the appropriate nations if such ask for their extradition.

By granting refuge, nations give up their soverignty rights.

Hossa! You are fast in denying a nation's sovereignity. too fast I think.
It is true. If your children were slaughtered senselessly, for no other cause but greed of power, money, and making others fearful, you, too, would be prepared to go to war with anyone who harbors these murderers...

Eridu wishes to be of assistance.
We recently arrested several suspicious persons with maps of bases and government buildings in Free Rumania in their cars. The reason we thought them suspicious is that we also found C4 explosives, western union money receipts and detailed plans for an attack on the Russian Forces embassy in Eridu.
They will be handed over to the appropriate nations if such ask for their extradition.
Find out if they are of an Egypstanian terror organization or not.

Correct...
If someone harbors people who attack and kill your children for no other cause but profit and terrorizing people, then they are just as guilty, and it is an act of war.

Harboring just mustn't be enough! If a country supports terrorist in action against your country, you might have the right to attack. but not just for letting them live there.

The Dr_Twist Government will come down Strongly on all the Nations That Harbor Terrorists!

Correct...
If someone harbors people who attack and kill your children for no other cause but profit and terrorizing people, then they are just as guilty, and it is an act of war.

Harboring just mustn't be enough! If a country supports terrorist in action against your country, you might have the right to attack. but not just for letting them live there.
We have a legal precedent. When Chechnya harbored terrorists who attacked Russian civilians, Russia invaded Chechnya.
After 911, the United States attacked and invaded Afghanistan for giving refuge to terrorists.
And there are many other examples.

Correct...
If someone harbors people who attack and kill your children for no other cause but profit and terrorizing people, then they are just as guilty, and it is an act of war.

Harboring just mustn't be enough! If a country supports terrorist in action against your country, you might have the right to attack. but not just for letting them live there.
Let's put it in better perspective...
If someone knowingly houses a serial killer who went and killed children, shouldn't that person who let them live their and just look the other way be arrested and prosecuted? Doing nothing is just as much a guilt as doing the actual crime, because you are not stopping it from happening, thus supporting it.

By granting refuge, nations give up their soverignty rights.

Hossa! You are fast in denying a nation's sovereignity. too fast I think.
It is true. If your children were slaughtered senselessly, for no other cause but greed of power, money, and making others fearful, you, too, would be prepared to go to war with anyone who harbors these murderers...

No! war would be legal if a new attack was about to be launched against you. but if the egypstan fugitive government just lives in third countries now without threatening and without the possibility to threaten another country, there is no threat. therefore there is no threat of senseless slaughtering any more. therefore there is no legal reason to attack any of these third party countries.

By granting refuge, nations give up their soverignty rights.

Hossa! You are fast in denying a nation's sovereignity. too fast I think.
It is true. If your children were slaughtered senselessly, for no other cause but greed of power, money, and making others fearful, you, too, would be prepared to go to war with anyone who harbors these murderers...

No! war would be legal if a new attack was about to be launched against you. but if the egypstan fugitive government just lives in third countries now without threatening and without the possibility to threaten another country, there is no threat. therefore there is no threat of senseless slaughtering any more. therefore there is no legal reason to attack any of these third party countries.
Except their government has killed many, and oppressed everyone else... and they are making money off of the terrorist acts.

Correct...
If someone harbors people who attack and kill your children for no other cause but profit and terrorizing people, then they are just as guilty, and it is an act of war.

Harboring just mustn't be enough! If a country supports terrorist in action against your country, you might have the right to attack. but not just for letting them live there.
We have a legal precedent. When Chechnya harbored terrorists who attacked Russian civilians, Russia invaded Chechnya.
After 911, the United States attacked and invaded Afghanistan for giving refuge to terrorists.
And there are many other examples.

that doesn't make it legal. neither chechnya, nor afghanistan was a legal war after international law. neither would be a war against a harboring nation here.

By granting refuge, nations give up their soverignty rights.

Hossa! You are fast in denying a nation's sovereignity. too fast I think.
It is true. If your children were slaughtered senselessly, for no other cause but greed of power, money, and making others fearful, you, too, would be prepared to go to war with anyone who harbors these murderers...

No! war would be legal if a new attack was about to be launched against you. but if the egypstan fugitive government just lives in third countries now without threatening and without the possibility to threaten another country, there is no threat. therefore there is no threat of senseless slaughtering any more. therefore there is no legal reason to attack any of these third party countries.
Except their government has killed many, and oppressed everyone else... and they are making money off of the terrorist acts.

has killed, not is killing! right. you are not attacking the killing government anymore to prosecute them but you think of attacking third party nations.

whatever! In war you sometimes have to do what you only wished in other times.

you're gonna go to war anyway. so I'll shut up.

Acheta does have a Point. but where Chechnya harbored terrorists, Chechnya was still part of Russia making it a legal and justified invasion, Now with the Afghanistan thing, They were given an Ultimatum to hand Osama over they didn't and they went to war, Legally they don't have t hand him over but the whole world was angry and wanted revenge, when you have Support behind you, hardly any 1 will dear challenge you.

whatever! In war you sometimes have to do what you only wished in other times.

you're gonna go to war anyway. so I'll shut up.
OOC: I don't mind debate... that's fine w/ me (infact, I was enjoying the debate :-))

IC: Again, this is the Coalition Against Terror

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=127115 Here is what happens when you hand over these terrorists... :-)

You guys know you got my full support

You guys know you got my full support Glad to have you helping us... they need to be stopped.

OOC#1 I SAY WE WIPE OUT NOD
OOC#2 Calm down, no more warmongering
OOC#1 SCREW YOU DUDE!!!!!!!! THE HELL WITH YOU
OOC#2Now listen, this is unacceptable you cant go round making war with
OOC#1 Try an stop me!!!!
*OOC#1 smacks #2 repeatedly
Overall OOC Suggestion: A WAR ON NOD!!!!!!!!! *faint cries of NO in the background*


Message to Vizion

Comrade Ally, your cause is just and your reasoning correct. We shall stand together, in these dark days AGAINST the forces of injustice and terror. Let the combined might and justice of the Coalition spread our justness far and wide. The HRRSF are readying now, and the GDI stand behind the Coalition (OOC: That was what they were FORMED FOR)

Muscovia Infants School, Red Square
The schools had always been full of propaganda. Among various communist flags, the children always had to sing the national anthem every day. However, in this one school, an in many other, there was a visitor.

Commander Jen Hokktilov leant against the wall as he watched the little children file into assembly. They were only five. What he was going to affect them would probably change them.
"And welcoming, commander Hokktilov, a Special Forces Veteran"
The children saluted and shouted in unison.
"Greetings Comrade"
Hokktilov was suprised. What was his government doing to these children. Bt the age of twenty they would be Commu-Freaks. Hokktilov stood up to the podium.
"Boys and girls" He started, when he suddenly stopped. Everyone in the room was looking at him. Everyone. It was like all the children were watching him...very closely.
"You probably know of all the terrorism we are having right now, we will need to make some safety measures on your school. Dont be scared now, its not permament, but it will mean that you wont be able to go out onto the playground for several weeks, or it could be months.
There were various shrugs and blank looks from the kids.
"Does this mean no more drill comrade?" One bravely asked.
Hokktilov was scared now. he backed out of the room, and he could even feel the kids watching him through the walls when he geared his humvee up.

umm ok, almost all terrorists in NAZK killed themselves but we cuaght 2 and they were involved in a shhoting during our deployment and also other missions