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NEW WORLD ORDER! *** IMPORTANT NEWS***

Dr_Twist
26-02-2004, 04:42
As the world may have noticed in the last week or so a new, very powerful alliance has appear. The alliance has been called the 4-Way Alliance, but today, it is called the 5-Way Alliance, due to GDI joining. We are working on getting a new, official name. Today, we are making the new alliance official by releasing the names of member nations, alliances, and regions who are currently in the alliance. (The List isn’t 100% finished at this Stage but will be Updated over time.) If a member nation has been missed can you please Contact ViZion.

We Would like to Welcome the Newest Alliance to New World Order, The Whitter Pact.

The Alliance
Member Alliances: ARM, GAPTS, CFA, ADSU, RBA
Member Regions: CFA, RBA, ADSU
Member Nations (lone/not part of the above): Jarridia

Break down (Alliances):
GAPTS Regions/Alliances: ARM, Federated Suns, Iron Alliance, New Nations Alliance
ARM Regions: Mercenary Lands, Iguanaland, Urantia, Cimmeria, Khitai, Calamari, Pork and Beans, Rattlesnake Chili, and Carpathia (soon)

Break down (Regions):
CFA Nations: ViZion, Matich, Powerfularmies, Sole Amore, Markov, The citys of the north, Terra Amore, The Diminix Embassy, North lands, Guernsey – Jersey, Central Scotland, America-Canada, Diminisha, Demonic Hell, Leja, Slavgovina, Ihatesurfposers, Hunter-Killer, Central Alaska, Gameboy, G-corp, The CFA Defense System, Gresers, Vakostan, Ok bob, Unwanted Immagrants, and Cogida
RBA Nations: Russian Forces, Imperial Forces, Frenrir, Zvarinograd, The Red Forces, Ulan Baator, Attawar, The Socialist Bloc, Collective, Kolskiy Poluostrov, Valgrad, Communist Hogsweat , Liberated Asia
ASDU Nations: Dr_Twist, Malatose, Aztec National League, Zapado, Neo Shinoxia, Hogsweat, ASU Hattia, and Lunatic Retard Robots, Nodea Rudav
Mercenary Lands Nation: The Gardens of Death, Hyrkana, Xeraph, The Legions of Rome, The War Kings, Black Shadows, Tauno and Eyjann, Torrutseish, and Melniboneei
Iguanaland Nation: Wilderness Clans, Spider Death, The knights of hell, Those Who Blow, Slash and Hack, Zorayos, and Veshum
Urantia Nations: Ascendington, The Father World, The False Goddess, Vorondadek, Nebadon, Divinington, Sonarington, Vicegerington, Seraphington, Havonna, and Orvontonn
Cimmeria Nations: The 5th Circle, The Dawn Hierarchy, Grey Stone, The Grey Hermits, Bandakar, The Outermost Circle, The 12th Circle, Angelus Dusk, Raavenii, The Light Bearers, and Hokkaloogee
Carpathia Nations: The Lost Sock, Splifferson, and Sphincterring
Rattlesnake Chili Nations: Deadly Aromas, Confederate Militias, The Dog Bangers, Destructive Tribes, Gonad 1, WarBurp, and Head Injuries
Pork and Beans Nations: Darkwing Vampyres, Dunkin DogNuts, Grunts and Phoofees, Antique Bundles, The Tao Tribe, The Twisted Clan, Noigcan, AAcheron, and Yo Richie
Calamari Nations: Rhum Boogie, Dead Flamingos, Liver Spots, Tararaboomdeeay, Vendhaya, Uber Extitia, and Choco Squirt
Khitai Nations: The Black Legions, The Storm Lords, The Red Legions, The Demonic Hordes, OOGATZ, Carthuzya, Shifting Darkness, The Blood Kings, Zenx, The Healers, Deep Consciousness, Alpha Dreams, and Sanguinas Eterneii

A lot of GAPTS Nations are Missing Becaues we are still trying to Get Infomation.

As you can see the list of nations in the alliances has grown massively since the nations involved have seen the list last.

The list of the alliances and regions in the 5-Way Alliance:

RBA: Red Block Army
ASDU: The Allied Socialist Defense Union
GDI: The Global Defense Initiative
CFA: The Coalition Forces Alliance
GAPTS: Grand Alliance of Peace Through Strength

Today a board is going to be created for member alliances and regions. Each member alliance/region of the 5-Way Alliance will receive two seats on the board. Each alliance will have (or two) chairman on the board and a member of the alliance. Because I personally am in a unique position of actually chairing 2 of the alliance both GAPTS and ASDU, I will be handing my seat for GAPTS to Xeraph and he will have to appoint a member of the alliance to the board with him. Seat 11 of the Alliance will be a nation of the 5-Way Alliance appoint by the Board

Seat 1: Russian Forces, Chairman Red Block Arm
Seat 2: Dr_Twist, Chairman The Allied Socialist Defense Union
Seat 3: Xeraph ARM Board Member
Seat 4: Hogsweat, Chairman The Global Defense Initiative
Seat 5: ViZion (equal power), The Coalition Forces Alliance
Seat 6: Verboten Lufftewaffe Bored Member GAPTS
Seat 7: Whitter Chairman Whitter Pact.
Seat 8: **** Silent Revolutionist States Board Member
Seat 9: **** Tallon IV Board Member
Seat 10: **** Alliance Member State Board Member
Seat 11:



If you are wanting to Join the Alliance, Please Telegram Vizion with an Request of Joining. If you have MSN Yahoo AIM of ICQ, please send those Details With the Telegram. Thank you.



UPDATE: No more Nations Alliance and Regions are allowed to Join NWO, until we are Up and Running, the Amount of Nations and Alliances Joining is simply Amazing Nation States has never seen such an Alliance and i am having trouble keeping up. Nations Alliance and Regions who have already expressed Interest are still allowed to Join at this stage.
Dundaine
26-02-2004, 04:44
just wondering if u were takin new regions into your alliance
Dr_Twist
26-02-2004, 04:46
just wondering if u were takin new regions into your alliance

yes you can Express Intrest of Joining the Alliance in this Thread if you wish.

Also Any members of the 5 Way Alliance that wish to fill the 11th Postion on the Board please post your intrest.
HellsFire Alliance
26-02-2004, 04:50
Haha dundaine beatme to the draw but considering I'm the leader of the region I should of been the one to ask. I am the RESF on another nation(i made it for a future involvment I am expecting). Just have Vizion Im me asap if you are for the conditions.
-CeleKorn of The RESF
-Huion Furion of The RA
-Alexcer(im not sure bout the spelling) Romanov of the HFA
26-02-2004, 04:51
Dr. Twist, please explain why the United Socialist States of Nodea Rudav is NOT in the catagory of the Allied Socialist Defense Union? Have I been booted from the Alliance that I helped create? Have I been so unreliable and so unworthy as to be in it? Please explain, I am not meaning to seem angry or anything, just asking.

I am also in the GDI because I see potential in some Nations as Worthy Allies as I do in the ASDU, just not OFFICIALLY joined in the GDI, just a supportive Nation.

I believe I am OFFICIALLY Joined into, and only OFFICIALLY into, the Allied Socialist Defense Union.
Dr_Twist
26-02-2004, 04:54
Dr. Twist, please explain why the United Socialist States of Nodea Rudav is NOT in the catagory of the Allied Socialist Defense Union? Have I been booted from the Alliance that I helped create? Have I been so unreliable and so unworthy as to be in it? Please explain, I am not meaning to seem angry or anything, just asking.

I am also in the GDI because I see potential in some Nations as Worthy Allies as I do in the ASDU, just not OFFICIALLY joined in the GDI, just a supportive Nation.

I believe I am OFFICIALLY Joined into, and only OFFICIALLY into, the Allied Socialist Defense Union.

Sorry the List is so big it Hard to Keep it up to date and on thrack.
26-02-2004, 04:56
Thank you, I knew I wasn't out, just needed to know just in case.
Verboten Lufftewaffe
26-02-2004, 05:03
Dr. Twist as a member of G.A.P.T.S i hereby wish to occupy the available seat on this Council...


Archon Prince Brian King I
Arch Duke of Verboten Lufftewaffe
CiC of the A.F.F.S (Region/Nations of the Federated Suns)
CEO of A.F.F.S Storefronts Incorporated.
High Councilor to the Quorum of 12
Councilor Tertius of G.A.P.T.S
Proud Member/Ally of
A.R.M - Member
G.A.P.T.S - Member
Legion of Defense - Member
TRIAX - Member
U.S.F.G - Member
N.N.A - Allied
I.A.D.F - Allied
AR - Allied
Dr_Twist
26-02-2004, 05:10
Dr. Twist as a member of G.A.P.T.S i hereby wish to occupy the available seat on this Council...


Archon Prince Brian King I
Arch Duke of Verboten Lufftewaffe
CiC of the A.F.F.S (Region/Nations of the Federated Suns)
CEO of A.F.F.S Storefronts Incorporated.
High Councilor to the Quorum of 12
Councilor Tertius of G.A.P.T.S
Proud Member/Ally of
A.R.M - Member
G.A.P.T.S - Member
Legion of Defense - Member
TRIAX - Member
U.S.F.G - Member
N.N.A - Allied
I.A.D.F - Allied
AR - Allied

I was thinking of Apponiting you accually.

Anyways i need GAPTS infomation like a List of nations and Regions they are in, and what GAPTS stands for since i have Forgotten :wink:
Verboten Lufftewaffe
26-02-2004, 05:13
Ok..i get on it...try and have a list for you tommorrow...
Dr_Twist
26-02-2004, 05:15
Ok..i get on it...try and have a list for you tommorrow...

Thank you :D
Chellis
26-02-2004, 05:20
Chellis finds this new alliance laughable. Political speakers have already termed this alliance the 'Gangwank' Alliance, and believe its nothing more than a front for some sort of large army, to gain power over others. Chellis still wishes for ties with some of its allies as Russian Forces however, and does not officially condemn the alliance.
Yiddnland
26-02-2004, 05:36
So what does this alliance give us all as a benefit if we do join¿?¿? :roll:
imported_ViZion
26-02-2004, 05:49
Chellis finds this new alliance laughable. Political speakers have already termed this alliance the 'Gangwank' Alliance, and believe its nothing more than a front for some sort of large army, to gain power over others. Chellis still wishes for ties with some of its allies as Russian Forces however, and does not officially condemn the alliance.

We wish to clarify this.

Yes, it is partly for power. I will not deny that, and anyone else in the alliance who denies it is lieing... it's human nature.

Anyway, this use to be, when it was just the CFA and RBA, called the Communist/Non-Communist alliance.

We are dedicated to showing the world that we can live together with different political theology, different races, and different religions as long as this fundamental aspect is the common goal of the nations: Fighting evil. (Good vs. Evil type alliance)

We see evil as the following: Genocide/mass-murder/killing; unprovoked attacks/imperialism; terrorist-supporting nations; nations who commit war-crimes.

We are also here for defense.
imported_ViZion
26-02-2004, 05:50
So what does this alliance give us all as a benefit if we do join¿?¿? :roll: Power, defense, and fighting evil...
imported_ViZion
26-02-2004, 05:51
Anyone interested in joining, please TG me. If you have AIM, MSN (messanger), or Yahoo (messanger), please give me your sn(s), so we can talk via instant messaging... it will make it much easier.

EDIT: Note! No single nation can join!

Single nations: To get into the alliance, you must either join a current membered alliance or region within the 5-Way Alliance, or your region or a large alliance you are in must join together.

Regions and alliances: Please contact me or Dr_Twist so we may see if you are eligable to join.
Elves Security Forces
26-02-2004, 05:59
Yes our region really wants to join the New Order Alliance TG Me or Dundaine
Chellis
26-02-2004, 06:01
Chellis finds this new alliance laughable. Political speakers have already termed this alliance the 'Gangwank' Alliance, and believe its nothing more than a front for some sort of large army, to gain power over others. Chellis still wishes for ties with some of its allies as Russian Forces however, and does not officially condemn the alliance.

We wish to clarify this.

Yes, it is partly for power. I will not deny that, and anyone else in the alliance who denies it is lieing... it's human nature.

Anyway, this use to be, when it was just the CFA and RBA, called the Communist/Non-Communist alliance.

We are dedicated to showing the world that we can live together with different political theology, different races, and different religions as long as this fundamental aspect is the common goal of the nations: Fighting evil. (Good vs. Evil type alliance)

We see evil as the following: Genocide/mass-murder/killing; unprovoked attacks/imperialism; terrorist-supporting nations; nations who commit war-crimes.

We are also here for defense.

So, lets say I was what you guys considered "evil". Would you attack me, if I commited what you considered War Crimes? Would you consider Concentration camps as genocide? What about if I attack a small nation, would that automatically be imperialism because it couldnt defend itself? Or Terrorist supporting, what if I supported a government terrorist group that was for social issues? None of these are examples, but they are all types of what you say are evil. Are these nations going to not know they are 'evil' until Bombers are flying over their capital and soldiers are mortaring their houses?
Xeraph
26-02-2004, 06:03
Greetings from Xeraph!

First, let me say that Xeraph is grateful to Dr Twist for his hard work in putting together this thread and making some sense of all these nations/regions/alliances.

Some updates/corrections:

1) GAPTS stands for the Grand Alliance of Peace Through Strength

2) the nations listed for the emerging region of Carpathia are as follows:
Bruha, Nosferatu, Alucard, Winged Hell, Blood Wing, the Embraced, Caves of Blood, Red Brotherhood, Magi Vampyricus, Vklan, the Dark Ruins. The previous names are not accurate, and should be removed.

3) Xeraph would like to appoint Emperor Crossman to the board.


respectfully,



Alaric, King of Xeraph
26-02-2004, 06:13
We wish to apply for Seat 2, as we are a member of the Red Block Army.
imported_ViZion
26-02-2004, 06:19
Chellis finds this new alliance laughable. Political speakers have already termed this alliance the 'Gangwank' Alliance, and believe its nothing more than a front for some sort of large army, to gain power over others. Chellis still wishes for ties with some of its allies as Russian Forces however, and does not officially condemn the alliance.

We wish to clarify this.

Yes, it is partly for power. I will not deny that, and anyone else in the alliance who denies it is lieing... it's human nature.

Anyway, this use to be, when it was just the CFA and RBA, called the Communist/Non-Communist alliance.

We are dedicated to showing the world that we can live together with different political theology, different races, and different religions as long as this fundamental aspect is the common goal of the nations: Fighting evil. (Good vs. Evil type alliance)

We see evil as the following: Genocide/mass-murder/killing; unprovoked attacks/imperialism; terrorist-supporting nations; nations who commit war-crimes.

We are also here for defense.

So, lets say I was what you guys considered "evil". Would you attack me, if I commited what you considered War Crimes? Would you consider Concentration camps as genocide? What about if I attack a small nation, would that automatically be imperialism because it couldnt defend itself? Or Terrorist supporting, what if I supported a government terrorist group that was for social issues? None of these are examples, but they are all types of what you say are evil. Are these nations going to not know they are 'evil' until Bombers are flying over their capital and soldiers are mortaring their houses?

Let me clarify AGAIN... (Though, shouldn't you know what is and what isn't considered this and that, considering you're a Dec. '02 nation?)

Imperialism: Attacking any nation with plans of take-over, power, and land.

War crimes: Killing unarmed civilians. Using nuclear warfare on a nation w/o nuclear arsonal.

Terrorist-supporters: Nations who freely support terrorists who attack "for the cause" (RL example: Al Quida and 9/11)
Dr_Twist
26-02-2004, 06:35
We wish to apply for Seat 2, as we are a member of the Red Block Army.
I was accually going to Discuss the 2nd RBA seat with Russian Forces, i think Imperial Forces will take the 2nd Seat.
Chellis
26-02-2004, 06:53
Chellis finds this new alliance laughable. Political speakers have already termed this alliance the 'Gangwank' Alliance, and believe its nothing more than a front for some sort of large army, to gain power over others. Chellis still wishes for ties with some of its allies as Russian Forces however, and does not officially condemn the alliance.

We wish to clarify this.

Yes, it is partly for power. I will not deny that, and anyone else in the alliance who denies it is lieing... it's human nature.

Anyway, this use to be, when it was just the CFA and RBA, called the Communist/Non-Communist alliance.

We are dedicated to showing the world that we can live together with different political theology, different races, and different religions as long as this fundamental aspect is the common goal of the nations: Fighting evil. (Good vs. Evil type alliance)

We see evil as the following: Genocide/mass-murder/killing; unprovoked attacks/imperialism; terrorist-supporting nations; nations who commit war-crimes.

We are also here for defense.

So, lets say I was what you guys considered "evil". Would you attack me, if I commited what you considered War Crimes? Would you consider Concentration camps as genocide? What about if I attack a small nation, would that automatically be imperialism because it couldnt defend itself? Or Terrorist supporting, what if I supported a government terrorist group that was for social issues? None of these are examples, but they are all types of what you say are evil. Are these nations going to not know they are 'evil' until Bombers are flying over their capital and soldiers are mortaring their houses?

Let me clarify AGAIN... (Though, shouldn't you know what is and what isn't considered this and that, considering you're a Dec. '02 nation?)

Imperialism: Attacking any nation with plans of take-over, power, and land.

War crimes: Killing unarmed civilians. Using nuclear warfare on a nation w/o nuclear arsonal.

Terrorist-supporters: Nations who freely support terrorists who attack "for the cause" (RL example: Al Quida and 9/11)

But who doesnt want to take over land for the purpose of having the land? I mean, there are other, 'good' reasons, that are very important, but wanting the land doesn't seem evil... attacking solely for it is a different thing...

What do you consider killing unarmed civilians? If you try to force people to leave a city, and burn it well after then, is that killing unarmed civilians? Is carpet bombing, even though even the most sophisticated bombs dont have 100% accuracy?

(and as a Dec 2002 nation, I generally dont care what is right. "Might makes Right" *huggles Bismarck*)
Austar Union
26-02-2004, 07:25
The Republic is little affected by this alliance, as we are allied with several members already...
Dr_Twist
26-02-2004, 07:26
The Republic is little affected by this alliance, as we are allied with several members already...

Austar Union is Welcome to join if it Wish's since we allready have good realtions with the Nation.
Austar Union
26-02-2004, 07:29
Yes we would like to join you. However, we would be unwilling to change our region, as we enjoy our own way of life in Europe. What division would we be able to join?
Dr_Twist
26-02-2004, 07:31
Yes we would like to join you. However, we would be unwilling to change our region, as we enjoy our own way of life in Europe. What division would we be able to join?

Under ASDU would probley be best for you.
Austar Union
26-02-2004, 07:39
Hmm, perhaps not. You see, my nation is right-wing...
26-02-2004, 07:45
wondering what the UN Delegate gets in the alliance? as I am the one for the CFA, and I believe I'm Sec. of Army as well.
26-02-2004, 08:31
The 4 way alliance, well now called the 5 way since GDI has joined, Contains over 300 Members Nations, The Alliance was orginally formed to Match GDODAD and any other alliance on the battle field but since then has grown so large it has gone beyond are target and contoues to grow, Alliance in the 5 Way alliance are, RBA ASDU GAPTS CFA and GDI.

Broan chairman of military affairs of Gearslip Ponds, "Sir did you see the GDI just joined the 4 way alliance, that means things have gotten messy."

Frandel CEO of Gearslip ponds, "Yes, recall everybody a different tact will be needed for the future."

OOC: Join one minor alliance and look what happens....
Dr_Twist
26-02-2004, 09:25
wondering what the UN Delegate gets in the alliance? as I am the one for the CFA, and I believe I'm Sec. of Army as well.

I am sorry you will have to take that up with CFA leader as it is there choice, But UN Delegates would be expected to continue as normal.
Austar Union
26-02-2004, 09:29
I am holding talks on a new alliance if anyone wishes to attend:

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=126620

We would be honoured if you would join us in Anatoba...
Dr_Twist
26-02-2004, 12:25
Bump.
Dr_Twist
26-02-2004, 14:09
bump
Free Pacific States
26-02-2004, 14:46
Could you be any more specific on this new world order? It's beliefs and sites? Must one be in another alliance or region to join? And, if it's beliefs coincide with mine, would I be allowed in?
26-02-2004, 14:48
::sigh::

Man.....:;sniff::.....Its snowing.......I'm happy.....I think....yea......I'M HAPPY!.........yep.....

-BUMP-
Dr_Twist
26-02-2004, 14:51
Could you be any more specific on this new world order? It's beliefs and sites? Must one be in another alliance or region to join? And, if it's beliefs coincide with mine, would I be allowed in?

Ok you don't have the be in the a Region to Join but you have to be a Member of one of the Alliance.

Any one is allowed in, No matter what Government system you are there is an Alliance / Region that will suit you, We have Communists, Democratic, Socialists and even Dictators.

The Alliances is Aimed at Peace and world Stability.

So if you Commit an Act of War, Genocide and so on there is a Good change NWO nations will come after you, We defend all nations in the Alliance.

And what are your Beliefs?
Free Pacific States
26-02-2004, 15:11
Well, as my UN Classification says, I'm a Liberal Democratic Socialist.

More specificly...well. I have a 100% tax rate, but all my money goes back to my citizens through welfare, education, and other civilian-helping projects. Officials are elected directly (no electorial vote, just popular vote), and the civilian population has a lot of power. My political structure is pretty much thet same as the US's, except it's more buerocratic, and slightly more caring about the population, and not being re-elected.

As for exterior...well, I have a huge army, and am currently involved in a small conflict. However, my nation is extremely pacifist. To be more specific, were peace lovers....and this "alliance" seems nice enough...as long as it doesn't become corrupt and starts to invade countries without reason.

In any case, I have to join one of the alliance's within the alliance to join the alliance? Just want to make sure on how to get in. Of course, I have to have congress vote on joining first, but I want to know nonetheless.
Garrison II
26-02-2004, 15:13
Are the nations active or are you just naming names.
Dr_Twist
26-02-2004, 15:13
Well, as my UN Classification says, I'm a Liberal Democratic Socialist.

More specificly...well. I have a 100% tax rate, but all my money goes back to my citizens through welfare, education, and other civilian-helping projects. Officials are elected directly (no electorial vote, just popular vote), and the civilian population has a lot of power. My political structure is pretty much thet same as the US's, except it's more buerocratic, and slightly more caring about the population, and not being re-elected.

As for exterior...well, I have a huge army, and am currently involved in a small conflict. However, my nation is extremely pacifist. To be more specific, were peace lovers....and this "alliance" seems nice enough...as long as it doesn't become corrupt and starts to invade countries without reason.

In any case, I have to join one of the alliance's within the alliance to join the alliance? Just want to make sure on how to get in. Of course, I have to have congress vote on joining first, but I want to know nonetheless.

Becaues of your Nation and your Policatal System we Suggest the ASDU, it has a lot of nations just like you in it.
The Blackguard
26-02-2004, 15:15
OOC: I'm going to take a stab at the values of this allegiance...

Later. I'm tired.
Dr_Twist
26-02-2004, 15:16
Are the nations active or are you just naming names.

Not all nations are listed as the List is still getting drawn up and finished, There are a lot of Active nations in there but with all Alliances not all member nations are active.

There are some names in there that you should of seen before like:

Russian Forces
Imperial Forces
Danneland
Western Asia
Myself and so on....
Garrison II
26-02-2004, 15:17
Isn't Imperial forces the one with the 100 million man military and who tried to invade me?
Free Pacific States
26-02-2004, 15:18
ASDU...I'll look into them, see if I can find their thread/website. Thanks for the advice.
Dr_Twist
26-02-2004, 15:19
Isn't Imperial forces the one with the 100 million man military and who tried to invade me?

hehehe, i don't know about the past of such an attack or what was behind it, but i think thats kinda funny.

But as you can see there are a few well known powerful nations in there.
26-02-2004, 15:45
W00T!!!! Now I gotta pick someone.. Damnit.

I Pick::
Hattia
Free Pacific States
26-02-2004, 15:50
Is there any chance I can become a member nation, as Jattia is? Untill I finalize which of the smaller alliances I wish to join?
Dr_Twist
26-02-2004, 15:56
Is there any chance I can become a member nation, as Jattia is? Untill I finalize which of the smaller alliances I wish to join?

If you want, there is nothing wrong with it atm.
Dr_Twist
27-02-2004, 02:40
bump
27-02-2004, 03:02
I no longer on Earth.....but still in ASDU Alliance, cause their cool. Changes Regions cause I no longer on Earth, Meteor destroyed land...bad bad thing.....anywho, never I leave Alliance ASDU! I just in new Region, never to ever leave ASDU, for I helped create it..... :)
Dr_Twist
27-02-2004, 03:04
I no longer on Earth.....but still in ASDU Alliance, cause their cool. Changes Regions cause I no longer on Earth, Meteor destroyed land...bad bad thing.....anywho, never I leave Alliance ASDU! I just in new Region, never to ever leave ASDU, for I helped create it..... :)

Its ok, just make sure you keep good links with us.
Iuthia
27-02-2004, 03:24
Hm... just a bit of a warning. I've noticed the same with all large alliances, but you have to watch out for nations being rather slow to react. The numbers look big, and they are, but alot of them will not be able to react quickly to something happening.

This can be solved by keeping them busy, but it's not easy. Good luck none the less, other alliances such as the GDODAD have the same trouble.
Dr_Twist
27-02-2004, 03:32
Hm... just a bit of a warning. I've noticed the same with all large alliances, but you have to watch out for nations being rather slow to react. The numbers look big, and they are, but alot of them will not be able to react quickly to something happening.

This can be solved by keeping them busy, but it's not easy. Good luck none the less, other alliances such as the GDODAD have the same trouble.

Yer it is hard, the List isn't even finished, its only about half finished and continues to grow all the time as we update it and get more info.

But yer you are right all the large alliances have the same Issues including GDODAD and ARDA, and we will have the same, but there are some well known names in there that will help if we even have to go to war on a World Scale.
Dr_Twist
27-02-2004, 04:23
bump.
HellsFire Alliance
27-02-2004, 04:25
Dr Twist you still havnt answered my question. What alliance would be good for me, The RESF , and Attackiarians? (i own them all) I believe my ally , Dundaine , wishes to join also. Please contact us via telegram or Vizion.
imported_ViZion
27-02-2004, 04:29
Dr Twist you still havnt answered my question. What alliance would be good for me, The RESF , and Attackiarians? (i own them all) I believe my ally , Dundaine , wishes to join also. Please contact us via telegram or Vizion.
TG sent...
27-02-2004, 04:40
Thanks Dr. Twist, I will always be in the ASDU, no matter what, and perhaps I shall rejoin the Region. Please Telegram me with the password just in case, I'm beginning to feel Home-Sick already. :cry:
Xeraph
27-02-2004, 05:18
Dr Twist,

Question: on page 1 of thread, you name alliance members, which includes ARM.
On page 2, in "gearslip pond" post, you have left out ARM as an alliance member, with GDI in it's place.

Am I to assume that it is now the 6-Way Alliance, or has ARM been dropped for some inexplicable reason?

respectfully,

Alaric, King of Xeraph
Dr_Twist
27-02-2004, 05:27
Dr Twist,

Question: on page 1 of thread, you name alliance members, which includes ARM.
On page 2, in "gearslip pond" post, you have left out ARM as an alliance member, with GDI in it's place.

Am I to assume that it is now the 6-Way Alliance, or has ARM been dropped for some inexplicable reason?

respectfully,

Alaric, King of Xeraph

SOrry ARM is counted as Part of GAPTS, that will be edited
Elves Security Forces
27-02-2004, 05:33
We have talked with ViZion and he has cleared our region suitable for the alliance. We only await DT's approval.
Xeraph
27-02-2004, 05:39
Just to clarify, ARM FOUNDED GAPTS, and ARM will not be part of NWO Alliance unless it is a founding member.

ARM and all it's member alliances will pull out of NWO if this is not rectified.

respectfully,

Alaric, King of Xeraph, Ambassador to ARM, GAPTS, IA, FS,AR, IADF, NNS
Soviet leaders
27-02-2004, 05:42
can my region join!!!!TG me
Dr_Twist
27-02-2004, 05:47
Just to clarify, ARM FOUNDED GAPTS, and ARM will not be part of NWO Alliance unless it is a founding member.

ARM and all it's member alliances will pull out of NWO if this is not rectified.

respectfully,

Alaric, King of Xeraph, Ambassador to ARM, GAPTS, IA, FS,AR, IADF, NNS

They can be a founding member but we carn't gve them seat on the bored, we can only have 11 seats.
Xeraph
27-02-2004, 05:49
Then make a 12th.
Dr_Twist
27-02-2004, 05:50
Then make a 12th. We carn't make a 12th seat or it will be even you need uneven numbers on a board
Xeraph
27-02-2004, 05:58
Then remove one of the members who became a board member after ARM was named as a member.
Dr_Twist
27-02-2004, 05:59
Then remove one of the members who became a board member after ARM was named as a member. We carn't simply do that, all i can do is kick an alliance 2nd member and give you that.
imported_ViZion
27-02-2004, 06:00
Current members:
ARM
GAPTS
RBA
CFA
Whittier Pact
Silent Revolutionist States
Tallon IV
GDI
Alliance Member State
ASDU
Xeraph
27-02-2004, 06:02
Seems you could do it to ARM, who essentially started the whole anti-GDODAD movement. So it shouldnt be too much of a problem to relegate a post-ARM member to 2nd member status.
Dr_Twist
27-02-2004, 06:04
Seems you could do it to ARM, who essentially started the whole anti-GDODAD movement. So it shouldnt be too much of a problem to relegate a post-ARM member to 2nd member status.

Look, you didn't start the Anti GDODAD movement myself and Russian Forces Did.

2nd, I have Ordered the Board to be disolved until somthing is sorted out the alliance is growing to fast to keep up.
Xeraph
27-02-2004, 06:09
GAPTS was founded by ARM, Verboten Luftewaffe, and the Empire of Crossman long before you were invited into GAPTS. And as stated, GAPTS was created as an alternative to the GDODAD people. GAPTS had over 100 nations in it before you were even aware that it existed.

I would highly suggest that a new and all-inclusive Board of Councilors be instituted through discussions between the Alliances.

Your'e right..........this is moving too fast and we need some coherency in choosing who is to lead this NWO Alliance.


Alaric, King of Xeraph
27-02-2004, 06:12
Do I have to join the forums of NWO or what?
I AM in the WHittier Pact!!!

This is soo cool!
Dr_Twist
27-02-2004, 06:12
GAPTS was founded by ARM, Verboten Luftewaffe, and the Empire of Crossman long before you were invited into GAPTS. And as stated, GAPTS was created as an alternative to the GDODAD people. GAPTS had over 100 nations in it before you were even aware that it existed.

I would highly suggest that a new and all-inclusive Board of Councilors be instituted through discussions between the Alliances.

Your'e right..........this is moving too fast and we need some coherency in choosing who is to lead this NWO Alliance.


Alaric, King of Xeraph

GAPTS and ARM have 1 seat each who sits on each seat?
imported_ViZion
27-02-2004, 06:13
can my region join!!!!TG me
I'll contact you via TG to talk about it...
Dr_Twist
27-02-2004, 06:14
Do I have to join the forums of NWO or what?
I AM in the WHittier Pact!!!

This is soo cool!

My brain is over heating with all the crap i am doing.

Yes you are in you don't have to re apply for anything, becaues you are in the Whitter Pact.
27-02-2004, 06:24
Check your TeleGrams Dr. Twist.
imported_ViZion
27-02-2004, 06:26
Current members:
ARM
GAPTS
RBA
CFA
Whittier Pact
Silent Revolutionist States
Tallon IV
GDI
ASDU
Jarridia
Xeraph
27-02-2004, 06:26
Doc, check your TG's.
Xeraph
27-02-2004, 06:36
ViZion and Verboten Luftewaffe, check your TG's.
imported_ViZion
27-02-2004, 06:37
ViZion and Verboten Luftewaffe, check your TG's. Done and replied
27-02-2004, 06:47
I'm bac k in the Allied Socialist Union Region! Never went away from the ASDU, just the region, and ending up in an entirely new Star System with eight planets.....wow....
Dundaine
27-02-2004, 06:50
Dr_twist my Allied Nation the Neues Reichs Alliance has also requested from me to join this rather powerful and Growing alliance.

TG Dormie
imported_ViZion
27-02-2004, 06:51
I'm bac k in the Allied Socialist Union Region! Never went away from the ASDU, just the region, and ending up in an entirely new Star System with eight planets.....wow....
lol
Xeraph
27-02-2004, 06:51
Might I make a suggestion?

I would be willing to hold a State Banquet to discuss the formation of a viable Allied Government.

All who would want to come can bring security forces and staff. Xeraph will foot the whole bill, and those who wish to establish embassies in our capitol of Xeraph may do so at no cost to them.

We can easily accomodate up to 100 representatives from the nations.

respectfully,

Alaric, King of Xeraph
27-02-2004, 06:53
Indeed, ViZon, you are The Supreme LOL! Muhahahaha Muhahahahahahahahahahaha Muahhahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!.....wait, what does LOL mean.....oh crap, dang laughing attitude got me again....

::sees an Imperialistic Human and mauls the poor individual for the heck of it::

RRRRRRRRR!
Axis Nova
27-02-2004, 06:55
Axis Nova would be pleased to attend such a function in the most puissant Kingdom of Xeraph. Please inform us when you wish to hold this banquet, and we shall dispatch our ambassador immediately.

Axis Nova State Dept
imported_ViZion
27-02-2004, 06:56
Might I make a suggestion?

I would be willing to hold a State Banquet to discuss the formation of a viable Allied Government.

All who would want to come can bring security forces and staff. Xeraph will foot the whole bill, and those who wish to establish embassies in our capitol of Xeraph may do so at no cost to them.

We can easily accomodate up to 100 representatives from the nations.

respectfully,

Alaric, King of Xeraph
Do you have MSN, AIM, or Yahoo messangers?
27-02-2004, 06:57
I have AIM: Hawk30168

Whats yours?!??!?!? I wanna Know!!!!!

OOC:

I believe my IC personality has changed.....
Black Shadows
27-02-2004, 07:01
The Borderlands of Black Shadows is willing to attend this proposed conference. Let us know when and where.


sincerely,

Constance, Queen of Shadows
27-02-2004, 07:02
::slaps self back into real shape::

Anywho, wheres this conference again?
Xeraph
27-02-2004, 07:04
ViZion,

No IM on this computer, it is administratively blocked. (I'm not home)
27-02-2004, 07:05
Ouch.....
Spider Death
27-02-2004, 07:13
It seems that our esteemed brother-nation, Nodea, has been dipping into the Moonshine.....

Notwithstanding, the Theocracy of Spider Death is interested in attending Xeraph's proposed banquet. Please send date and location.

Lord Arackh, Spirit King
27-02-2004, 07:15
::Hic-Up:: Dang...you! ::Hic-Up, Hic-Up!:: How'd yooooorrrrruuuu... ::BURP!:: Find out? Sphhhhhyyyyy Setallete or sumthin? ::Hic-Up!:::
Xeraph
27-02-2004, 07:21
From: Jerm Prime, Regent of Bandakar

We have been informed that the following nations would be illing to attend the NWO Alliance Banquet in Xeraph:

The Confederacy of Darkwing Vampyres, the Armed Republic of the Twisted Clan, and the entire regions of Urantia and Rattlesnake Chili

Jerm Prime, under-ambassador of Xeraph
27-02-2004, 07:24
Xeraph, I would attend....I hope you will allow me....You will allow me, wont you.....I hope you will.....Yes I hope....I hope....I hope......
Xeraph
27-02-2004, 07:26
Of course you can attend...........we'll have a case of your favorite booze on ice waiting for you.
27-02-2004, 07:28
Yea, ever since my Nation exploded from a comet, its UNBLEVIEBALE! Man I''m drunk...I think...::Hic-Up::....Lizzzzzaaarrrdddss.....errr....Reptiliiiianans..

:;falls over::
Russian Forces
27-02-2004, 08:23
Chairman of the Red Bloc Army and representative of Russian Forces Sergei Kazantsev apologises for responding late. I have word from Vladimir Putin. He likes to congratulate ViZion and Dr_Twist for the effort of bringing our strong alliances together for one single goal... for peace and freedom from dictatorships around the world. I am giving Imperial Forces Vice chairman of RBA for their strong strife against opressors even when he wasn't in the RBA. I give the Premier his best wishes.

http://www.cnn.com/1999/WORLD/europe/12/08/russia.chechnya.03/link.kazantsev.jpg
Imperial Forces
27-02-2004, 09:05
After a long break from the international world the Empire has return into aid the fight for the common goals for all man-kind, we will give all of our efforts in making a new world for which everyone can be free and equal.

-Grand Master Roac, The Continental Empire of Imperial Forces.
http://www.ameritech.net/users/rwatson2002/jan18_plate1.gif
27-02-2004, 09:08
:sighs::
Just you wait, I'll get me one yet.....one of those logos....

Ow......no more booze for me.....

OOC: Excactly...
IC: What?
OOC: Don't do booze!
IC: Duh...
OOC: Idiot.
IC: Your the idiot!
OOC: Oh yea, well were both idiots!
IC: Now your just dumb....
OOC: How'd you get smarter than me?
IC: Your fault.
Dr_Twist
27-02-2004, 09:17
I would like to Welcome Russian Forces and Imperial Forces to the ALliance.
Tiborita
27-02-2004, 09:23
Ow......no more booze for me.....
As a member of the booze region, I resent this. Everyone should do more drinking...
Xeraph
27-02-2004, 12:10
<OOC> I will be gone all day, so anyone who wants to attend the Banquet post here and we will get back to you as to the date.

<IC> Dr Twist, we ask that you sit with Xeraph at the Royal Table during the Banquet, as a show of unity between us. You and I will welcome all attendees, each give a speech, then all will retire to the Royal Game Room for a round of Billiards. The following day the talks will begin.
I'm not sure at this point, but I'm thinking this Sunday night for the opening ceremonies. Your input is requested.

respectfully,

Alaric, King of Xeraph
Hogsweat
27-02-2004, 12:50
I have MSN and AIM
AIM: PolishPatriot231
MSN- Jlabunda@hotmail.com

add me!

There is a forum?
imported_ViZion
27-02-2004, 15:53
bump.. welcome Imperial Forces and RF!

Wont be home until later tonight, bye!
Hogsweat
27-02-2004, 16:01
Xeraph, are we all invited?
27-02-2004, 17:07
My region may join. If that is true, can the Legion of Defence (http://s3.invisionfree.com/Protectorate_Service/) join, too?
Aust
27-02-2004, 17:27
Can you take the Coalition of Honour into the allince, oh and I think the SLOA (The Snowy Lands of Antartica) Might like to join.
Iuthia
27-02-2004, 17:42
Dr. Twist, you may want to start thinking about who is authorised to speak for the alliance... because with the amount of members you have you may find that alot of them may shoot their mouths off about being allied to you.

How does the alliance work anyways, is it mutual protection in the case of a unwarranted attack against members, or will you defend then no matter the reason they are attacked?

What kind of command structure do you have in place and what kind of power would they have over others...

And finally, how are you going to deal with internal disputes... you are looking like you are going to have around 8+ alliances in one mega alliance, this means conflict of interest (I've seen a few possible cases) as others are members of other alliances... eventually someone may disargee with another and may find themselves on opposite sides...


You know me, I'm just throwing up a couple of thoughts, you can tell when I'm criticising, I'm usually doing it in a sarcastic tone. This time it's more of a query...
Verboten Lufftewaffe
27-02-2004, 18:26
My region may join. If that is true, can the Legion of Defence (http://s3.invisionfree.com/Protectorate_Service/) join, too?

About time the Legion entered the scene

Archon Prince Brian King I
Arch Duke of Verboten Lufftewaffe
CiC of the A.F.F.S (Region/Nations of the Federated Suns)
CEO of A.F.F.S Storefronts Incorporated.
High Councilor to the Quorum of 12
Councilor Tertius of G.A.P.T.S
Proud Member/Ally of
N.W.O - Member
A.R.M - Member
G.A.P.T.S - Member
Legion of Defense - Member
TRIAX - Member
U.S.F.G - Member
N.N.A - Allied
I.A.D.F - Allied
AR - Allied

A.F.F.S Storefront Corporate HQ (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=120413/)
A.F.F.S Navalyard Storefront (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=117539/)
A.F.F.S Artillery/Armor/Mechanized Storefront (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=117540/)
A.F.F.S Aerospace Storefront (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=117541/)
A.F.F.S Firearms/Armory Storefront (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=117544/)
A.F.F.S General Purpose Storefront (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=112968/)
A.F.F.S Edged Weapons Storefront (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=118060/)
A.F.F.S Starships Unlimited Storefront (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=126852/)
27-02-2004, 18:31
My region may join. If that is true, can the Legion of Defence (http://s3.invisionfree.com/Protectorate_Service/) join, too?

kOOL...ANOTHER L.o.D

My LoD's been around since January 1, 2004. When I created it, I had no knowledge of any other LoDs.
Verboten Lufftewaffe
27-02-2004, 18:39
My region may join. If that is true, can the Legion of Defence (http://s3.invisionfree.com/Protectorate_Service/) join, too?

kOOL...ANOTHER L.o.D

My LoD's been around since January 1, 2004. When I created it, I had no knowledge of any other LoDs.

Nah...i was referring to another L.o.D member like myself
27-02-2004, 18:43
My region may join. If that is true, can the Legion of Defence (http://s3.invisionfree.com/Protectorate_Service/) join, too?

kOOL...ANOTHER L.o.D

My LoD's been around since January 1, 2004. When I created it, I had no knowledge of any other LoDs.

Nah...i was referring to another L.o.D member like myself

Sorry for the misunderstanding.

[OOC: I know for a fact now that LoD is the initials of an expansion pack of Diablo II. I found that at a month after naming the Legion.]
Xeraph
27-02-2004, 22:03
Greetings from Xeraph!

Hogsweat, Nanakaland, Aust, and Iuthia:

You are all welcome to join the NWO Alliance. If you like, please attend the Banquet in Xeraph Sunday night, where, after the festivities, we will discuss, as briefly as possible, some ground rules for this new alliance.

respectfully,

Alaric, King of Xeraph
27-02-2004, 22:06
If you are an ASDU member, please go to this site for your official Board, meaning the one I promised to make! ;)

Http://hawk.proboards.com
27-02-2004, 22:16
Greetings from Xeraph!

Hogsweat, Nanakaland, Aust, and Iuthia:

You are all welcome to join the NWO Alliance. If you like, please attend the Banquet in Xeraph Sunday night, where, after the festivities, we will discuss, as briefly as possible, some ground rules for this new alliance.

respectfully,

Alaric, King of Xeraph

Thank you.

In the News section of the LoD forums, there is a new poll which will decide on whether we will join or not.

The Official Legion of Defence Forums (http://s3.invisionfree.com/Protectorate_Service/)
Xeraph
27-02-2004, 23:49
<BUMP>
Xeraph
27-02-2004, 23:49
<BUMP>
Matich
27-02-2004, 23:59
Greetings from Xeraph!

Hogsweat, Nanakaland, Aust, and Iuthia:

You are all welcome to join the NWO Alliance. If you like, please attend the Banquet in Xeraph Sunday night, where, after the festivities, we will discuss, as briefly as possible, some ground rules for this new alliance.

respectfully,

Alaric, King of Xeraph

Thank you.

In the News section of the LoD forums, there is a new poll which will decide on whether we will join or not.

The Official Legion of Defence Forums (http://s3.invisionfree.com/Protectorate_Service/)


I am a board member and I am authorized to speak for the alliance. I will bring it to the rest of the boards attention that you wish to join. I will get back to you.
27-02-2004, 23:59
ASDU Member, even Non-Members, the Board is UP and RUNNING! :D

Please visit: Http://hawk.proboards.com

Step 1. Please Sign Up if you are an ASDU Member
Step 2. Please E-mail Apocalypse Hawk, especially Dr. Twist, if you wish to become an Administrator or Moderator
Step 3. Enjoy!
Matich
27-02-2004, 23:59
Greetings from Xeraph!

Hogsweat, Nanakaland, Aust, and Iuthia:

You are all welcome to join the NWO Alliance. If you like, please attend the Banquet in Xeraph Sunday night, where, after the festivities, we will discuss, as briefly as possible, some ground rules for this new alliance.

respectfully,

Alaric, King of Xeraph

Thank you.

In the News section of the LoD forums, there is a new poll which will decide on whether we will join or not.

The Official Legion of Defence Forums (http://s3.invisionfree.com/Protectorate_Service/)


I am a board member and I am authorized to speak for the alliance. I will bring it to the rest of the boards attention that you wish to join. I will get back to you.
27-02-2004, 23:59
ASDU Member, even Non-Members, the Board is UP and RUNNING! :D

Please visit: Http://hawk.proboards.com

Step 1. Please Sign Up if you are an ASDU Member
Step 2. Please E-mail Apocalypse Hawk, especially Dr. Twist, if you wish to become an Administrator or Moderator
Step 3. Enjoy!
Xeraph
28-02-2004, 00:22
<BUMP>
Xeraph
28-02-2004, 00:31
bump
Iuthia
28-02-2004, 01:02
We are willing to attend however we are un-willing to join N.W.O at this time. I would prefer to be an observer of this alliance... to be tied down by another alliance would be too much for us, we enjoy our freedom and lack of obligations.


http://www.nationstates.net/images/flags/uploads/iuthia.jpg

Lord General deGritz, leader of the Iuthian people.
Urbanites (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=display_region/region=Urbanites)

Recent News in Iuthia (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=83886&highlight=)
OOC Information on Iuthia (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=109898&highlight=)
imported_ViZion
28-02-2004, 01:03
Nanakaland - you and your region, LoD, may join. Welcome!

Aust - I will have to talk with board members. I would also like to speak with you. This is due to how you carried out your attacks after the political executions... But, like I said, let's talk. Do you have AIM, MSN, or Yahoo messangers?
imported_ViZion
28-02-2004, 01:07
We are willing to attend however we are un-willing to join N.W.O at this time. I would prefer to be an observer of this alliance... to be tied down by another alliance would be too much for us, we enjoy our freedom and lack of obligations.


http://www.nationstates.net/images/flags/uploads/iuthia.jpg

Lord General deGritz, leader of the Iuthian people.
Urbanites (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=display_region/region=Urbanites)

Recent News in Iuthia (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=83886&highlight=)
OOC Information on Iuthia (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=109898&highlight=)

Note... the only obligations are to defend other members when they are attacked (and help isn't always needed, as most likely there will be (it seems) 50 other nations who tackle the invader before you even signon...
The other is *IF* the alliance as a *WHOLE* declares war, then you will be required to join in (note... same thing as the defence... there will probably be more then enough nations, already taking out the nation(s) we've declared war on before you ever signon...) And, please note... this (the alliance declaring war) will be extremely rare.. 98% of the time, it will be a group of nations within the alliance requesting support from members who would like to help them in a war...

EDIT: Oh... but something else I forgot... you cannot: Commit genocide (or the likes), support terror networks, torture people, be imperialistic... and... am I missing anything else? Oh, yes, and agree to use the Whittier Convention...
28-02-2004, 01:16
Canales__ would like to seek the protection of the alliance.
imported_ViZion
28-02-2004, 01:20
Canales__ would like to seek the protection of the alliance.

I will speak to you.

Please TG me if you have AIM, MSN, or Yahoo messangers, and please give me coordinating sn's so we may talk.

The same goes with Aust and any and all other nations, regions, and alliances at all interested in more information, or speaking to us. Thank you!
Iuthia
28-02-2004, 01:49
Hm... none the less we cannot (at this moment of time) agree to all of those conditions. For example, we have rejected the notion of following the Whittier Convention...

We are also not comfortable with being forced to go to war by a group of alliances with mixed agendas. I know that all alliances have to agree and I would even go as far to say that in most cases they will not agree but still I am uncomfortable with the idea.

We lead, or have led an alliance against imperialism... so that is not an issue. Plus we are against the use of terrorists and WMD.

So for the time being we cannot join this alliance... however we may be interested in coming to this banqet to learn more.

Lord General deGritz, leader of the Iuthian people.
Urbanites (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=display_region/region=Urbanites)

OOC Information on Iuthia (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=109898&highlight=)


OOC: YIM account: Nightwolf40k - Though if someone is going to add me they will have to quote their nations name in the message for adding me to their friends list.
imported_ViZion
28-02-2004, 02:54
Hm... none the less we cannot (at this moment of time) agree to all of those conditions. For example, we have rejected the notion of following the Whittier Convention...

We are also not comfortable with being forced to go to war by a group of alliances with mixed agendas. I know that all alliances have to agree and I would even go as far to say that in most cases they will not agree but still I am uncomfortable with the idea.

We lead, or have led an alliance against imperialism... so that is not an issue. Plus we are against the use of terrorists and WMD.

So for the time being we cannot join this alliance... however we may be interested in coming to this banqet to learn more.

Lord General deGritz, leader of the Iuthian people.
Urbanites (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=display_region/region=Urbanites)

OOC Information on Iuthia (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=109898&highlight=)


OOC: YIM account: Nightwolf40k - Though if someone is going to add me they will have to quote their nations name in the message for adding me to their friends list.

Just sent ya message on Yahoo...
28-02-2004, 02:59
Slarina would like to enter this alliance.
imported_ViZion
28-02-2004, 03:04
Slarina would like to enter this alliance.
Again, please TG me... and if you have AIM, MSN, or Yahoo messangers, please include your sn on those so we can talk via instant messanger.. makes it a lot easier...
28-02-2004, 03:05
whats yuo AIM name?
imported_ViZion
28-02-2004, 03:07
whats yuo AIM name? Check TG...
Dr_Twist
28-02-2004, 03:07
Dr. Twist, you may want to start thinking about who is authorised to speak for the alliance... because with the amount of members you have you may find that alot of them may shoot their mouths off about being allied to you.

How does the alliance work anyways, is it mutual protection in the case of a unwarranted attack against members, or will you defend then no matter the reason they are attacked?

What kind of command structure do you have in place and what kind of power would they have over others...

And finally, how are you going to deal with internal disputes... you are looking like you are going to have around 8+ alliances in one mega alliance, this means conflict of interest (I've seen a few possible cases) as others are members of other alliances... eventually someone may disargee with another and may find themselves on opposite sides...


You know me, I'm just throwing up a couple of thoughts, you can tell when I'm criticising, I'm usually doing it in a sarcastic tone. This time it's more of a query...

Ok there are Drafts Floating around that have yet to be officially Written up, but you are right, some form of Order needs to Happen in this, because soon we will have the members of the board shooting there mouths off in there alliances interests not thinking of every 1s interest, but i think it is going to be rather simple that when people talk it will be about there alliance not NWO, the only time an Official NWO message will probley go across is from the Board itself, or if i need to do some form of organizing of the alliance, but the only issue with that is people in the alliance will think i am mister head of everything man and they will complain that i am taking charge, well in a situation like this there had to be some 1 who organizes it all and puts it all down and sorts it out, and that’s me and i hope people will get off my back about it.
Acheta
28-02-2004, 03:07
I'm founder of the Milky Islands Region. Can we join? how?

My AIM: acheta001
28-02-2004, 03:09
TG?
imported_ViZion
28-02-2004, 03:11
TG?
Telegram...
Dr_Twist
28-02-2004, 03:37
bump
Dr_Twist
28-02-2004, 03:37
bump
Raavenii
28-02-2004, 03:48
Dr Twist, your'e getting all worked up for no reason. The simple plan you had at the very beginning is still the best: 5 Primary alliance members,
5 secondary alliance members, and 5 tertiary alliance members. The secondary and tertiary members are not inferior or subservient to the Primary members. It is just a numerical designation. For instance, I will occupy a board seat of the tertiary members. I would be known as Xeraph3rd. If you chose to occupy a board seat among the secondary members, you would be known as Dr Twist2nd.............and so on. We have an odd number of members, we have plenty of board seats, and we have a simple plan. What more could you ask for?

Alaric
Dr_Twist
28-02-2004, 03:51
A Meeting of the Present board has been Requested

Seat 1: Russian Forces, Chairman Red Block Arm
Seat 2: Dr_Twist, Chairman The Allied Socialist Defense Union
Seat 3: Xeraph ARM Board Member
Seat 4: Hogsweat, Chairman The Global Defense Initiative
Seat 5: ViZion (equal power), The Coalition Forces Alliance
Seat 6: Verboten Lufftewaffe Bored Member GAPTS
Seat 7: Whitter Chairman Whitter Pact.

Some things have come to Light with the alliance, it is so large that, that we need a Chairman of the Board and Positions for the people of the board, because when something is requested on such a scale we would have to call a meeting, What has to be done is give every one a Job so we know who is in charge of what and who to talk to about what.
Raavenii
28-02-2004, 03:51
By the way, if your'e wondering what I'm doing in Raavenii, we're having a hell of a good time playing horseshoes in the Duke's back yard.

Alaric
Dr_Twist
28-02-2004, 03:52
Dr Twist, your'e getting all worked up for no reason. The simple plan you had at the very beginning is still the best: 5 Primary alliance members,
5 secondary alliance members, and 5 tertiary alliance members. The secondary and tertiary members are not inferior or subservient to the Primary members. It is just a numerical designation. For instance, I will occupy a board seat of the tertiary members. I would be known as Xeraph3rd. If you chose to occupy a board seat among the secondary members, you would be known as Dr Twist2nd.............and so on. We have an odd number of members, we have plenty of board seats, and we have a simple plan. What more could you ask for?

Alaric

1. No Nation is allowed is allowed more then 1 seat on the Board full stop.
2. No Puppets on the board, if you are found to have a puppet on the board using it as an extra vote, you and the puppet will be removed from the Board permanently.
Raavenii
28-02-2004, 03:53
Excellent idea.........so what "job" will each Board Member be responsible for?
Dr_Twist
28-02-2004, 03:54
Excellent idea.........so what "job" will each Board Member be responsible for?

That would be discussed, but it has to happen we need a Chairman and postions for the members of the board or it will fall apart.
Raavenii
28-02-2004, 03:57
OK...good idea. Let's name the 15 legitimate heads of alliances, and place them according to their jobs.


Dr Twist, Russian Forces, Xeraph, Verboten Lufetewaffe, Hogsweat, ViZIon, Whittier...............and now lets choose 8 more
Dr_Twist
28-02-2004, 03:58
OK...good idea. Let's name the 15 legitimate heads of alliances, and place them according to their jobs.


Dr Twist, Russian Forces, Xeraph, Verboten Lufetewaffe, Hogsweat, ViZIon, Whittier...............and now lets choose 8 more

You aren’t lessening to me, only the members on the Board will get positions, and because there are presently only 7 members on the board they will be sorted out 1st then when the other 4 are filled they will get positions as well.
Raavenii
28-02-2004, 04:00
And might I suggest a "floating" chairmanship so that every member can regularly experience trying to keep 500-plus nations unified.

Perhaps, a 60 or 90 day term limit for each member would be adequate.

Alaric
Raavenii
28-02-2004, 04:02
OK, 11 members it shall be.

We now have 7....................any ideas as to who the other 4 should be?
Dr_Twist
28-02-2004, 04:02
And might I suggest a "floating" chairmanship so that every member can regularly experience trying to keep 500-plus nations unified.

Perhaps, a 60 or 90 day term limit for each member would be adequate.

Alaric

It would be discussed, but i can tell you right now, what myself and Vizion are doing is extremly hard putting it together once it is together it will be smooth sailing.
Dr_Twist
28-02-2004, 04:03
OK, 11 members it shall be.

We now have 7....................any ideas as to who the other 4 should be?

I am sure somthing will be branf up.
Imperial Forces
28-02-2004, 04:04
OK, 11 members it shall be.

We now have 7....................any ideas as to who the other 4 should be?

Me?
Job Hunters
28-02-2004, 04:05
oddly enough, I represent a group called the New world order. we have about 500 membering nations, maybe since our two groups share a common name, we should work together.
Dr_Twist
28-02-2004, 04:05
OK, 11 members it shall be.

We now have 7....................any ideas as to who the other 4 should be?

Me?

Yes there are 4 seats left, and you would defiantly be a person looked at also....

1. No Nation is allowed is allowed more then 1 seat on the Board full stop.
2. No Puppets on the board, if you are found to have a puppet on the board using it as an extra vote, you and the puppet will be removed from the Board permanently.

Just incase you didn't know.
HellsFire Alliance
28-02-2004, 04:07
Mayb we should also put a limt onto the amount of nations a single person can have or in the alliance? I will use myself as an example. I have 4 nations under my control and all 4 of them are in the alliance. Im purposing mayb 4 or 5 inside the alliance. I dunt know but it sounds good to me.
Xeraph
28-02-2004, 04:12
Good idea, Hellsfire. For instance, ARM has 84 nations. Only one could be a board member, which would be Xeraph, and Xeraph would have the only say out of all the members of ARM.
Dr_Twist
28-02-2004, 04:14
Good idea, Hellsfire. For instance, ARM has 84 nations. Only one could be a board member, which would be Xeraph, and Xeraph would have the only say out of all the members of ARM.

I am sorry but it is not going to happen, you joined as a single group and you will leave as one, splitting up nations like that would be a HUGH task and would not be worth it, the present system will stand.
28-02-2004, 04:14
We still shall never leave the Allied Socialist Defense Union, please remember this.

Thank You,
Kata'Re
Leader of the Colony of Nodea Rudav
Hattia
28-02-2004, 04:23
Dr_Twist, please change ASU Hattia to Hattia, it is just a puppet to talk on the regional board. And Hogsweat telegrammed me and said I'd been appointed a board member from the GDI to the NWO...
Xeraph
28-02-2004, 04:24
1) the Seven need to vote as to who is to be 8,9,10,11.

2) who said anything about splitting up nations. It's simple: ONE ALLIANCE, ONE NATIONAL REPRESENTATIVE.
Therefore, the 11 Board members will each represent their own alliance.
Dr_Twist
28-02-2004, 04:25
Dr_Twist, please change ASU Hattia to Hattia, it is just a puppet to talk on the regional board. And Hogsweat telegrammed me and said I'd been appointed a board member from the GDI to the NWO...

Sorry you were on the Board, but becaues of certain members bitch and power grabing, and the alliance growing even more it has been cut down to 1 member per alliance, i am sorry :(
Dr_Twist
28-02-2004, 04:25
Dr_Twist, please change ASU Hattia to Hattia, it is just a puppet to talk on the regional board. And Hogsweat telegrammed me and said I'd been appointed a board member from the GDI to the NWO...

Sorry you were on the Board, but becaues of certain members bitch and power grabing, and the alliance growing even more it has been cut down to 1 member per alliance, i am sorry :(
Hattia
28-02-2004, 04:26
No problem.
Dr_Twist
28-02-2004, 04:27
1) the Seven need to vote as to who is to be 8,9,10,11.

2) who said anything about splitting up nations. It's simple: ONE ALLIANCE, ONE NATIONAL REPRESENTATIVE.
Therefore, the 11 Board members will each represent their own alliance.

Off course but the present 7 Members represent the present 7 Major alliance in NWO, which is where the power will be seat the other 4 member will be discussed, it might even be cut back to 9 or even 7 depending on what happens at the meeting.
Xeraph
28-02-2004, 04:27
Doctor, to whom were you referring as to the statement "bitching" and "power grabbing". Just curious...............
Dr_Twist
28-02-2004, 04:29
Doctor, to whom were you referring as to the statement "bitching" and "power grabbing". Just curious...............

DW, if you are thinking it is you there is worse belive me.
Xeraph
28-02-2004, 04:34
I never thought any such thing...just was curious to whom you were referring.
Xeraph
28-02-2004, 04:36
Then why go thru all the aggravation? Just leave it at 7.
28-02-2004, 04:37
:?::?::?:

The LoD is still voting on the issue, yet a telegram said we're in. I'm confused.

:?
Akita-Ryuvius
28-02-2004, 04:46
im in for the new world order. :lol:
Dr_Twist
28-02-2004, 04:49
Yes the Board is still being Sorted, i think we will keep it at 7 unless a another alliance joins.

I am confused to Nanakaland :cry:
imported_ViZion
28-02-2004, 04:51
:?::?::?:

The LoD is still voting on the issue, yet a telegram said we're in. I'm confused.

:?

You have been accepted. It is up to LoD to decide if you wish to enter.
Xeraph
28-02-2004, 06:04
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imported_ViZion
28-02-2004, 06:16
ok, I need a complete list of all regions and alliances within the NWO... that includes regions and alliances within GAPTS... and I need names of nations within them...

Please post list of nations within the region and alliance here: http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=127091
Dr_Twist
28-02-2004, 07:02
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Verboten Lufftewaffe
28-02-2004, 08:46
Federated Suns:

Verboten Lufftewaffe
Crucis March
Clan Jade Faclon
The Alliance Embassy
Black Luthien
S.o.S.T
Free Stars Republic
A.F.F.S Command
Alliance Knights

9 Rings of Hell
The 8th Ring of Hell
Dr_Twist
28-02-2004, 08:48
Federated Suns:

Verboten Lufftewaffe
Crucis March
Clan Jade Faclon
The Alliance Embassy
Black Luthien
S.o.S.T
Free Stars Republic
A.F.F.S Command
Alliance Knights

9 Rings of Hell
The 8th Ring of Hell

Its not detailed enought we need the Whole member list and the regions that are owned by the alliance, we need a full offical list up and running.
Dr_Twist
28-02-2004, 13:57
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28-02-2004, 14:06
The Man Said --------BUMP--------!
Dr_Twist
28-02-2004, 14:07
OCC: its to bad we carn't declear a cold war with GDODAD and its allies :wink:
Free Pacific States
28-02-2004, 14:32
Would you mind updating the membership list (Putting my name next to Jarridia, and adding new alliances).
Dr_Twist
28-02-2004, 14:44
Would you mind updating the membership list (Putting my name next to Jarridia, and adding new alliances).

It is getting updated, it is expected to take about a week to get it offical updated it grew so much over the last few days, the amount of work me and Vizion are putting into this is simply amazing.
28-02-2004, 14:52
Helped ya out a bit, Dr Twist. Hope this helps!


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As the world may have noticed in the last week or so a new, very powerful alliance has appear. The alliance has been called the 4-Way Alliance, but today, it is called the 5-Way Alliance, due to GDI joining. We are working on getting a new, official name. Today, we are making the new alliance official by releasing the names of member nations, alliances, and regions who are currently in the alliance. (The List isn’t 100% finished at this Stage but will be Updated over time.) If a member nation has been missed can you please Contact ViZion.

We Would like to Welcome the Newest Alliance to New World Order, The Whitter Pact.

The Alliance
Member Alliances: ARM, GAPTS, CFA, ADSU, RBA
Member Regions: CFA, RBA, ADSU
Member Nations (lone/not part of the above): Jarridia

Break down (Alliances):
GAPTS Regions/Alliances: ARM, Federated Suns, Iron Alliance, New Nations Alliance
ARM Regions: Mercenary Lands, Iguanaland, Urantia, Cimmeria, Khitai, Calamari, Pork and Beans, Rattlesnake Chili, and Carpathia (soon)

Break down (Regions):
CFA Nations: ViZion, Matich, Powerfularmies, Sole Amore, Markov, The citys of the north, Terra Amore, The Diminix Embassy, North lands, Guernsey – Jersey, Central Scotland, America-Canada, Diminisha, Demonic Hell, Leja, Slavgovina, Ihatesurfposers, Hunter-Killer, Central Alaska, Gameboy, G-corp, The CFA Defense System, Gresers, Vakostan, Ok bob, Unwanted Immagrants, and Cogida
RBA Nations: Russian Forces, Imperial Forces, Frenrir, Zvarinograd, The Red Forces, Ulan Baator, Attawar, The Socialist Bloc, Collective, Kolskiy Poluostrov, Valgrad, Communist Hogsweat , Liberated Asia
ASDU Nations: Dr_Twist, Malatose, Aztec National League, Zapado, Neo Shinoxia, Hogsweat, ASU Hattia, and Lunatic Retard Robots, Nodea Rudav
Mercenary Lands Nation: The Gardens of Death, Hyrkana, Xeraph, The Legions of Rome, The War Kings, Black Shadows, Tauno and Eyjann, Torrutseish, and Melniboneei
Iguanaland Nation: Wilderness Clans, Spider Death, The knights of hell, Those Who Blow, Slash and Hack, Zorayos, and Veshum
Urantia Nations: Ascendington, The Father World, The False Goddess, Vorondadek, Nebadon, Divinington, Sonarington, Vicegerington, Seraphington, Havonna, and Orvontonn
Cimmeria Nations: The 5th Circle, The Dawn Hierarchy, Grey Stone, The Grey Hermits, Bandakar, The Outermost Circle, The 12th Circle, Angelus Dusk, Raavenii, The Light Bearers, and Hokkaloogee
Carpathia Nations: The Lost Sock, Splifferson, and Sphincterring
Rattlesnake Chili Nations: Deadly Aromas, Confederate Militias, The Dog Bangers, Destructive Tribes, Gonad 1, WarBurp, and Head Injuries
Pork and Beans Nations: Darkwing Vampyres, Dunkin DogNuts, Grunts and Phoofees, Antique Bundles, The Tao Tribe, The Twisted Clan, Noigcan, AAcheron, and Yo Richie
Calamari Nations: Rhum Boogie, Dead Flamingos, Liver Spots, Tararaboomdeeay, Vendhaya, Uber Extitia, and Choco Squirt
Khitai Nations: The Black Legions, The Storm Lords, The Red Legions, The Demonic Hordes, OOGATZ, Carthuzya, Shifting Darkness, The Blood Kings, Zenx, The Healers, Deep Consciousness, Alpha Dreams, and Sanguinas Eterneii

A lot of GAPTS Nations are Missing Becaues we are still trying to Get Infomation.

As you can see the list of nations in the alliances has grown massively since the nations involved have seen the list last.

The list of the alliances and regions in the 5-Way Alliance:

RBA: Red Block Army
ASDU: The Allied Socialist Defense Union
GDI: The Global Defense Initiative
CFA: The Coalition Forces Alliance
GAPTS: Grand Alliance of Peace Through Strength

Today a board is going to be created for member alliances and regions. Each member alliance/region of the 5-Way Alliance will receive two seats on the board. Each alliance will have (or two) chairman on the board and a member of the alliance. Because I personally am in a unique position of actually chairing 2 of the alliance both GAPTS and ASDU, I will be handing my seat for GAPTS to Xeraph and he will have to appoint a member of the alliance to the board with him. Seat 11 of the Alliance will be a nation of the 5-Way Alliance appoint by the Board

Seat 1: Russian Forces, Chairman Red Block Army
Seat 2: Dr_Twist, Chairman The Allied Socialist Defense Union
Seat 3: Xeraph ARM Board Member
Seat 4: Hogsweat, Chairman The Global Defense Initiative
Seat 5: ViZion (equal power), The Coalition Forces Alliance
Seat 6: Verboten Lufftewaffe Bored Member GAPTS
Seat 7: Whitter Chairman Whitter Pact.
Seat 8: **** Silent Revolutionist States Board Member
Seat 9: **** Tallon IV Board Member
Seat 10: **** Alliance Member State Board Member
Seat 11:



If you are wanting to Join the Alliance, Please Telegram Vizion with an Request of Joining. If you have MSN Yahoo AIM of ICQ, please send those Details With the Telegram. Thank you.
Free Pacific States
28-02-2004, 14:53
Well, were thankfull for it. This alliance, like the UN, will definitly further chances for world peace...or at least keep the world from those who would destroy it. Hail to the new world order! Hail to the...er...alliance? A name would be a good idea...
Xeraph
28-02-2004, 18:41
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Free Pacific States
28-02-2004, 19:01
Two things.

First, could I be put next to Jarridia as lone (non inner alliance attached) nation? I'd really like in.

Secondly, is there any chance I could get a seat on the board? I may not be in an alliance, but perhaps I could act as a representative for those like me(See above)? I doubt this will happen, but I had to ask.
Garrison II
28-02-2004, 19:09
Uhm I counted 130, before you guys said 300.
Iuthia
28-02-2004, 19:43
I think they are counting regions and then noting them down as one name...

Otherthen that I haven't actually checked... I don't care enough and I doubt a war between NWO and GDODAD could happen due to the differences between the two's style of RP.

For example, GDODAD has some huge names and huge nations to it... a large amount of those good names are very good at RP... where as over half of the member of NWO are very inexperienced and lack organisation.

[/two pence]
Dr_Twist
29-02-2004, 01:53
Uhm I counted 130, before you guys said 300.

I have said many times before the list is way out of date, there only is 4 alliances there, there are 10 in total :roll:
Hogsweat
29-02-2004, 11:58
Iuthia is right again, (yay i got your name right), GDODAD are very experienced RP'ers. Maybe we should just have like ... two people in each alliance involved in the war if there is one.