NationStates Jolt Archive


Anti-Intellectuals and Imbeciles Executed

26-02-2004, 04:35
------Rebelandi News-----------

It was seen today the Socialist Civil Protection Agency gathering despised citizens noted for their anti-intellectual views. Some of which involve a slurring of literature. Accompanying the aforementioned, were citizens with insufficient IQ's (under 140). The total number of citizens gathered in total was 32,000. Herbert the Significant ( who enjoys an IQ of 238) deemed these individuals to be inimical to the education system. The despised citizens were promptly shot.
Scellia
26-02-2004, 04:42
Scellia urges you not to continue this disturbing trend, especially since you will have a population of 8.5 Million if these killings continue to their end. An IQ of 140 means that you are in the top 2.5% of the nation, if you kill all people below 140 then you will have 8.5 Million people left.
Roycelandia
26-02-2004, 04:47
Roycelandia applauds your stance on the removal of Stupid and Anti-Intellectual persons, but questions the necessity of execution of said Individuals?

Roycelandia operates a compulsory Re-Education and Stupidity Tax programme to ensure that Stupid People are not an inconvenience to the rest of society. (Under Roycelandian Law, anyone with an IQ of less than 95 must either pay an additional % tax per year or stay at school until they pass the University Entrance exams).

Perhaps we could assist you by taking your anti-intellectuals and stupid off your hands?
Scellia
26-02-2004, 04:54
Scellian officials have come out with new figures if all people with 140 or below person are executed in Rebeland.

130 IQ: Top 2%
It is logical to assume that 140 is at least top 1%
.01*350,000,000= 3,500,000 Left after executions
Total Deaths: 346,500,000 Dead
26-02-2004, 06:07
The Holy Empire of Golden Omega finds these results very, very disturbing. We officially condemn these mindless executions of innocent people. People should not be killed just because they were not born as smart as others. We implore you to stop these executions and at the very least lower your demand of how high their IQ must be. We also highly suggest that if you continue your discrimination against lower IQ people, you do so in the matter that Roycelandia does it.
26-02-2004, 18:22
*tsktsk* The initial inhabitants of Rebeland were incredibly intellectual refugees. These refugees founded Rebeland due to violent ostracization in their homeland. As such, the average IQ in Rebeland is 150. So you see, killing those with an IQ of 140 and below is only killing .002% of the population. It is suprisingly rare to have an IQ this low in Rebeland.
26-02-2004, 18:40
Comrade I applaud your incentives for such an extermination. However, wouldn't it be more efficient to simply use the imbeciles for labor purposes?
Hogsweat
27-02-2004, 15:35
Decease this at once scumbag, you dare call yourself Socialist?
imported_ViZion
27-02-2004, 15:47
We will not tolerate your genocide. They may be "un-intellegent" but they are people none the less. You must stop this at once.
Jeruselem
27-02-2004, 15:48
This stupid idea means most of the army would have to shoot itself as most members of the army don't have terribly high IQs. Of course they won't, but revolt and wipe of the government pushing the policy instead.

I assume all government members have rigged IQ tests proclaiming an IQ higher than 140 as expected in the politics of this situation.
Hogsweat
27-02-2004, 15:51
Ultimatum Delivered to Herbert the Significant

You have 24 hours (2 Days RL) To stop this madness, and apologise, otherwise we will be forced to take action.

Regards

Alfatain Burfati
Kanabia
27-02-2004, 16:03
The entire nation of Kanabia is utterly disgusted to hear of the actions taken by Rebeland. We stand united behind all opposing this action, especially Hogsweat- we too do not understand how you can call yourself socialist. Is the government of Rebeland National Socialist perhaps? The leaders of Rebeland should be punished as the genocidal maniacs that they are.
Hogsweat
27-02-2004, 16:17
EXACTLY Kanabia.

Im hungry,

Ultimatum Change
You have 24 hours to respond before we take action
27-02-2004, 16:20
The emerging Kingdom of Keol woudl like to suggest re-considering the anihilation of individuals of low intellectual capacities. Instead we propose assigning them to dull and repetitive tasks which are always required in the running of any country.
Scellia
27-02-2004, 17:34
I believe point to make is that everone with an IQ of 130-140 is borderline genius, the simple math says that even if your ENTIRE nation was knowledge refugees even then 140 IQ would still only be the top 5-7%. Just because you are smart doesn't mean you will have smart children, so that means you are claiming your entire natyion are refugees?
Iuthia
27-02-2004, 17:58
As such, the average IQ in Rebeland is 150.

Hm... I'm going to ignore this. As far as I am concerned you have just passed a law that allows you to kill 99% of your nations populace...

Seeing as the average IQ is 100, unless you are actually in the top hundred of the smartest citizens from the UN polls I can't see how this is going to be any different in your nation.

Otherwise I could just claim all my nation are super-fast mega humans of godness... which makes no sense.

Eitherway... I won't acknowledge your average IQ of 150.
Jeruselem
27-02-2004, 18:10
*tsktsk* The initial inhabitants of Rebeland were incredibly intellectual refugees. These refugees founded Rebeland due to violent ostracization in their homeland. As such, the average IQ in Rebeland is 150. So you see, killing those with an IQ of 140 and below is only killing .002% of the population. It is suprisingly rare to have an IQ this low in Rebeland.

We'll just have to multiply any IQ score from Rebeland test by 2/3 since your 150 is 100 in most nations.
Gregloristan
27-02-2004, 18:23
Gregloristan is shocked at this new development. In response we have thrown in chains 200 of our leading atheist intellectuals. It is you smarty-smarty pants that are destroying religion and belief, and we dare say that your execution of humble citizens is horrifying. The only good reason for executing someone is that they have blasphemed against our god G. Or that they have had sex outside of wedlock. Or they have exposed their face in public. Or read a book that is taboo. Or have had a picture taken of them (and thus, had their soul stolen).

Desist these atrocities, or we will be forced to surgically decrease the IQ of these atheist intellectuals. We will start with a poet.

OOC: Given that IQ is only a relevant comparison to people in your own society (i.e. your country) the average IQ BY DEFINITION of any country (even founded entirely by 5 million Einstein clones) is 100. If you're using some kind of world standard, the comparisons start to have less value the more differences there are between populations.
Adornia
27-02-2004, 18:37
Adornia is shocked and appalled by this genocide. We will not stand by and see innocent people wiped out because of something they cannot control. Adornia will stand with any coalition or opposition to this barbaric practice.
Scandavian States
27-02-2004, 18:38
Despite the fact that we are thoroughly disgusted with Rebeland for their genocide, we won't take action. The reason being is that if they've killed every citizen under an IQ of 140 as they claim, then they've killed off all but 0.0001% of their children and if they want to continue this policy will either have to force abortions or kill children at birth. Besically, Rebelands has commited itself to a slow death. We'd wish Rebelands luck, but we don't like it very much.
27-02-2004, 18:42
The nation of Donelejo is shocked and horrified at this action. This mass genocide is inexcusable and urges the entire UN to condemn your actions. I URGENTLY ADVISE ALL COUNTRYS BORDERING THIS NATION TO PREPARE FOR MASSIVE EPIDEMICS. It is TOTALLY IMPOSSIBLE for the remaing population to deal with the disposible of all those dead bodies in a timely manner, and the MOUNTAINS of rotting bodies will cause the spread of numerous diseases. YOU MUST PROTECT YOUR POPULATIONS! I stronly urge all nations to assist in donating medicines and medical support to the surrounging countries. All nations should also ban travel to people from this country to prevent the spread of these diseases from becoming a global plague!
27-02-2004, 19:09
The Constitutional Monarchy of O'Toole is appalled at this disgusting practice and we willingly stand beside any and all who oppose this country's callous and cruel behavior.

We would like to officially open our borders to any Rebelandi refegees seeking escape from thier country. Any refugees will be granted political asylum and will be given a quality education through our Free University Educational System.

O'Toole is also willing to offer aid to any coalition who takes action against this genocidal and psychotic country.
Scandavian States
27-02-2004, 19:35
For those nations saying that we should destroy Rebeland, you obviously didn't read our message. They've effective suicided themselves by killing all of their children, because very few children have an IQ over 120, much less 140. That, ladies and gents, is also why the average IQ of 150 is bullshit, because it doesn't account for children, which any other legitimate IQ test does.
Hogsweat
27-02-2004, 21:10
Mmm... Well I guess it was just him being plain dumb himself.
Kanabia
28-02-2004, 11:56
For those nations saying that we should destroy Rebeland, you obviously didn't read our message. They've effective suicided themselves by killing all of their children, because very few children have an IQ over 120, much less 140. That, ladies and gents, is also why the average IQ of 150 is bullshit, because it doesn't account for children, which any other legitimate IQ test does.

That doesnt mean that we should leave the government in power.
Midlonia
28-02-2004, 12:25
The GEM turns a blind eye to this.... sorting of the Gene pool
The Blackguard
28-02-2004, 12:37
OOC:
I couple of issues came to mind when I read this thread. And I would like to voice them.

A) It seems that neither the Socialist Civil Protection Agency or "Herbert the Significant" placed any conscious thought into planning their intellectual genocide, as they foolishly failed to consider any of the consequences that might arise from senselessly butchering a segment of their population for doing absolutely nothing at all. Just who is the imbecile here?

-- (I say this because his nation, with the assistance of a psycho-aggressive foreign power, stands a good chance of becoming nothing more than a hole in the ground.)

B) As for those who are disputing the average IQ of the Rebeland populace.. Just what are you doing? There is nothing that says that all nations are populated by present day humans, so either start RPing or take your demented facts elsewhere.

I hope someone can appreciate what I have just said.
Kanuckistan
28-02-2004, 12:49
OOC:
B) As for those who are disputing the average IQ of the Rebeland populace.. Just what are you doing? There is nothing that says that all nations are populated by present day humans, so either start RPing or take your demented facts elsewhere.


OOC:

Actually, iirc the problem with having an 'average IQ' of anything besides 100 is that an IQ of 100 is defined as a population's average IQ; there is no absoloute scale against which to measure inteligence, so it's scaled based on the population's average, and the result is assigned the value 100.

Or something like that, I think. It's been a good number of years.
The Blackguard
28-02-2004, 12:59
OOC:

Actually, iirc the problem with having an 'average IQ' of anything besides 100 is that an IQ of 100 is defined as a population's average IQ; there is no absoloute scale against which to measure inteligence, so it's scaled based on the population's average, and the result is assigned the value 100.

Or something like that, I think. It's been a good number of years.

Wrong. The 'average IQ' you supplied is relative to the real world.. NS, on the other hand, is a fictional game. The population of Rebeland has supposedly advanced further intellectually than the average human, thus, their 'average IQ' has risen.

Why are people still disputing this?
Wossamata
28-02-2004, 13:04
OOC:
As for those who are disputing the average IQ of the Rebeland populace.. Just what are you doing? There is nothing that says that all nations are populated by present day humans, so either start RPing or take your demented facts elsewhere.

<OOC: The Blackguard brought up a good point. The 100 IQ is the average of (real) humans living between 1 C.E. and 2004 C. E. There is nothing that says NS has to follow reality, in fact, it is somewhat discouraged. Rebeland could be full of thirty-third century C.E. megageniouses or 9,000 B.C.E. cavemen. Whatever float's his boat.>

IC:

The Dictatorship of Wossamata stands by Rebeland's actions and would love to join the region to offer friendly borders and to help control the death camps and disposal areas.
The Blackguard
28-02-2004, 13:10
Someone agrees with me :shock:! Wow. Thats a first :D.
Magas Volaer
28-02-2004, 14:13
The Federation of Magas Volaer is appalled at your actions.

Why put an end to such pathetic life when you could put it to work? Now you will need your intelligent citizens to clean urinals, work food stations, tend to farms, etc...
Kanuckistan
28-02-2004, 14:21
You missinterpreted my post; the average IQ was reffering to a given population, in this case, that of Rebeland. Any acurate IQ measurment has to use the population being measured to establish a baseline/average IQ; you assign this average a value of 100, and use it as a basis of measurment.

The problem with using the standard of a different population is in the details, the inexactness inherent in trying to measure how smart someone is, and often wildly differing knowledge bases. The extreamly abstract and varried nature of inteligence makes developing a universally applicible test nigh impossible, so you have to localise if you want contextually meaningful results.

Now, you could easily take your nation's average baseline and assign it a value of 150, but that's totally arbitrary. Of course, so was 100 when they started, but now it's universally accepted as meaning 'average' for your given population, so it's the standard.
Scandavian States
28-02-2004, 14:42
Thank you, Kanuktistan. So for all those who can't figure out what he just said, it goes something like this: Even if s/he is a genius with an IQ of 150 in one country, s/he could be just average in her home country and therefore have an IQ of 100.
The Blackguard
28-02-2004, 14:46
Okay. This gets complicated when I only half know what I'm talking about. However, I did misinterpret part of your meaning, so I offer you a 'half apology'.

What I was trying to state was that the IQs, (even if both used a standard of 100), would not match up. Rebeland intelligence (apparently) outclasses the average human intellect, so if placed on the same scale the RB IQ would be 140 in comparison to the average of 100.

// Most of what I just said is nonsensical junk, please try to bear with me.
28-02-2004, 14:51
The Popular Zenith in accordance with its social structure and socio-economic plans urges the government of Rebeland to refrain from shooting people who would otherwise be used for less intellectually orientated tasks; for example, payed labour.


Alexander Zarkar
Proconsul of All the Districts
The Republic of the Popular Zenith
The Hardcore Gusness
28-02-2004, 14:57
The government of the Serene Republic is profoundly disturbed by this attempt at eugenics. We strongly urge both the regional delegates and surrounding nations to begin peacekeeping operations to protect the citizens of this nation from their government.
The Serene republic hereby declares a total embargo on the sale of goods from Rebeland, pending a judicial inquiry and urges local governments, in the strongest possible terms, to institute similar measures. These actions are repellant to the very spirit of responsible government.
Yugolsavia
28-02-2004, 16:32
I am angered at what you are doing. Who the hell gave you the right to decide who lives and who dies. We will take action aganst you if you do not stop. This mindless madness must stop immediatly. If this continues we will do everything in our power to ruin you. You can't go around killing people just because they are not as smart as you.
Teakland
28-02-2004, 19:02
A message from The People's Republic of Teakland

On behalf of the people of Teakland, I condemn the actions of the Government of Rebeland. While we value education and the expansion of the human mind, we do NOT in any way pretend to understand the actions of this government. To execute a group of people based on their IQ, which is a biased and un-corrected measure of mental faculties, is tantamount to genocide. We refrain from leveling threats at the Rebeland Government at this time; however, rest assured that we will be monitoring this situation closely.

Sincerely,
Garreth Kohl
Minister of Peace