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Titograd rearms - looking for assistance

Titograd
24-02-2004, 09:36
The Central Commitee of the People's Republic of Titograd has brought a new resolution yesterday, recognizing the dangers of todays world, and the need for self-defense. It has thenceforth been decided that the People's Republic shall rearm.

Our own arms industry shall produce per day: 40 T-62 tanks, 3 "155 mm/45 calibre" howitzer - Chinese model, 1 MiG-31, and of course many rifles.

The People's Republic is looking for advisors on training its army with the most modern techniques. All interested telegraph me or post here.
We are also interested in developing our chemical industry, for the purpose of developing new medicin for our troops. Scientists should also apply via telegraph or posting.
Adderton
24-02-2004, 09:52
The president of adderton gives his warm regards to yer country. We are willin' to send two teams of military advisors on the benefits of guerilla warfare as well as fightin' on the open range. We also are willin' to send over some of our top chemists to help solve yer problem. Th' only exchange we ask of ye will be discussed later on.

James T. Walker
Vice Minister of Military Intervention
Ministry of Foreign Affairs
Adderton.
24-02-2004, 10:10
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=125465, thats my store front, ive got a sale on, and if you are an allie or in my region you get another 15% off! Anyway, il;l give you 1000M-16s as a insentive.
Im also willing to send 1000 of my blue cross, they are the best trained, best equiped, best experianced troops i have, and some of them look to be going to war again(theive been in many a campaign before our nation even joined as one, and they still fight against small rebel forces!)

I also can help by sending 100 scientists and $1/3billion but in return i want that any discoveries they make can be used by me, and if in an experiment people die and its less than 100 ill not have to pay compensation, as well as being alowed a small team to search for precious metals, oil and so on and if they do find some then that my nation may have mining rights to it for 5ns years.(the mining bit will cover all the expenses for my 100 troops and any damage done to them/you)
Titograd
24-02-2004, 10:32
The M-16 is anti-personel land mine, right? We thank you for your gift, we will test it and if it proves to serve its purpose we'll buy another 4000. Will telegraph you.

The Blue Cross we don't need, we have our own elite force, and the Comrades at the CK feel they could undermine our government.

We accept the 100 scientist, however we don't like the deal you have proposed. The natural resources of Titograd are the people's only, and we cannot rent it to foreign exploiters, since this is prevented by the constitution. We would like to offer you something else:
1) research results will be shared except if it undermines our national security
2) Titograd is a huge producer of corn-flakes. We offer 10,000 million tons of corn-flakes over the period of 12 years.
24-02-2004, 10:46
The M-16 is anti-personel land mine, right? We thank you for your gift, we will test it and if it proves to serve its purpose we'll buy another 4000. Will telegraph you.

The Blue Cross we don't need, we have our own elite force, and the Comrades at the CK feel they could undermine our government.

We accept the 100 scientist, however we don't like the deal you have proposed. The natural resources of Titograd are the people's only, and we cannot rent it to foreign exploiters, since this is prevented by the constitution. We would like to offer you something else:
1) research results will be shared except if it undermines our national security
2) Titograd is a huge producer of corn-flakes. We offer 10,000 million tons of corn-flakes over the period of 12 years.

The blue cross are to train your men but anyway...M-16 is a type of assault rifle, used by the USA.
Ill take the cornflakes, thanks, but ill need to find milk somewhere! :D
Titograd
24-02-2004, 11:19
Sorry, we can't help you with that :P

Anyway, we did not understand the purpose of your Blue Cross men. We would be interested if you have armoured warfare expert; the rest we don't need. We'll provide him with suitable housing, and pay him 20 billion novi dinars per month (= $20,000)

Are you sure the M-16 is not landmine? I've found this site where it says it is: http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/apm.htm
Anyway, we don't need rifles, we need landmines. If you can provide it we are willing to buy 5000 pieces. We are also reviewing your mortar offer, and might consider it in the future.

Is there someone offering to install anti-air defense platforms in my country?
Bra-Q
24-02-2004, 11:53
We are selling our AMX-002 Mobile missile launchers,

http://www.missilesandfirecontrol.com/our_products/airdefense/PATRIOT/images/pic-product-patriot.jpg

This launcher has a remote managed fire controll system which is controlled from either a fixed terminal(available from us) or from a mobile Mobile command vehicle.

http://www.aeronautics.ru/archive/armored_vehicles/tank/btr-60pb-02.jpg

This vehicle is equiped with GPS systems, advanced communication suite, ECM and RADAR jamming equipment, and battlefield coordination equipment including a X1 Series combat controll computer. This vehicle is also equiped with a 20 MM anti-aircraft gun.

We supply this launcher with 40 Mach 2.2 Interception missiles

You can either buy the package deal of Launcher, controll terminal and Command vehicle for 2.1 Million Coins, or only the launcher and Terminal for 1.4 Million. The price might seem high, but so is the quality.

We also have qualified engineers for hire that can install the system for you, for a modest price of 5000 Coins a month
24-02-2004, 15:15
Sorry, we can't help you with that :P

Anyway, we did not understand the purpose of your Blue Cross men. We would be interested if you have armoured warfare expert; the rest we don't need. We'll provide him with suitable housing, and pay him 20 billion novi dinars per month (= $20,000)

Are you sure the M-16 is not landmine? I've found this site where it says it is: http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/apm.htm
Anyway, we don't need rifles, we need landmines. If you can provide it we are willing to buy 5000 pieces. We are also reviewing your mortar offer, and might consider it in the future.

Is there someone offering to install anti-air defense platforms in my country?
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/m16.htm
The FAS is the best!
My thread has got tons of great stuff, ill send some armoured experts over, 500 in all along with 250 blue cross and 1000marines for defence, theyll all be mainly armed with OICWs(see the thread i posted, its my storefront, i use those weapons) And ATT-14s specs: (Its an APC):
ATT-14
An armoured personnel carrier of the new generation- ATT-14 has four types of weapons installed. These are an automatic gun, a machine-gun, a grenade launcher and anti-tank missiles. This makes it possible to wage a fight against tanks, artillery pieces, mechanised infantry, helicopters and manpower of an enemy at a distance of over 4 kilometres both from a position and moving. The high weight-carrying capacity and considerable inner capacity (14 cubic meters) of the eight-wheel (can be changed easily to tracks) ATT-14 allow transport of heavier weapons, such as an anti-tank gun, a 135-millimetre artillery piece, anti-aircraft and anti-tank missiles to be carried safely to the front. ATT-14 can move at a speed of 110 kilometres per hour on roads and over 60km/h on highly broken ground. It can move even if four wheels have been damaged. ATT-14 can move across water. It can easily travel aboard and off a landing ship. ATT-14 is equipped with an automatic control system to carry out an effective control of the transmission and engine and other vitally important parts of the machine as well as a internal/external diagostics system to make work on it easy to be carried out. It has a crew of three and can carry EW (battlefield mapping, command/control, coms as well as aircraft tracking systems(up to 30 aircraft, with 6 aircraft attack capabilitys) systems or 8/10 fully equipped troops as well as SAM’s.
Crew: 3
Weight: 60,000lbs
Obstacle grade: 1 m
Versions: a, this version has no anti-tank missiles or SAMs but can carry 8/10 soldiers depending on their equipment.
b, this version has full armament and EW but cannot carry any troops and has a crew of 5
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=www.desertcombat.com/Vehicle%2520Images/BMP2.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.desertcombat.com/%3Fpage%3Dvehicles&h=768&w=1024&sz=320&tbnid=dmqQanf6em4J:&tbnh=112&tbnw=149&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dbmp2%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=members.tripod.com/~aliabuaziz/military/bmp2.jpg&imgrefurl=http://members.tripod.com/~aliabuaziz/military/s-army.html&h=290&w=243&sz=41&tbnid=VBlKgUFnzKMJ:&tbnh=109&tbnw=92&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dbmp2%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8
They use both a+b versions.
24-02-2004, 15:28
We are selling our AMX-002 Mobile missile launchers,

http://www.missilesandfirecontrol.com/our_products/airdefense/PATRIOT/images/pic-product-patriot.jpg

This launcher has a remote managed fire controll system which is controlled from either a fixed terminal(available from us) or from a mobile Mobile command vehicle.

http://www.aeronautics.ru/archive/armored_vehicles/tank/btr-60pb-02.jpg

This vehicle is equiped with GPS systems, advanced communication suite, ECM and RADAR jamming equipment, and battlefield coordination equipment including a X1 Series combat controll computer. This vehicle is also equiped with a 20 MM anti-aircraft gun.

We supply this launcher with 40 Mach 2.2 Interception missiles

You can either buy the package deal of Launcher, controll terminal and Command vehicle for 2.1 Million Coins, or only the launcher and Terminal for 1.4 Million. The price might seem high, but so is the quality.

We also have qualified engineers for hire that can install the system for you, for a modest price of 5000 Coins a month

These are low prices for this 'high' quality stuff! check out:
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/m2.htm This is a bradley, one of these costs the US, who produce 1000s, the more you build the cheaper they are, $3.166M average, but you are asking for 2.1M for 3 things, ummm GODMODE ALEART!!! A more precise price for all of those, if they are as high quelity as you say(THEY ARE NOT! MOST TRAINER PLANES ON NS MAKE MACH1! A SPARROW, THAT IS A SHORT RANGE MISSILE, GOES AT MACH5, THIS IS LAUNCHED FROM A PLANE AND IS GETTING OLD, THEY WERE THE MAIN ARMAMENT IN THE FAUKLANDS WAR, 1982!)

So therefore put the prices up or be ignored, im sure other nations will agree with me.
Bra-Q
24-02-2004, 15:31
OOC First of all, try replying in english. And second, noone said that i couldnt use inflation. Secondly, i dont know alot about military prices, and thirdly.. who said anything about Sparrow missiles or Trainer aircraft?
Midlonia
24-02-2004, 15:44
we can give you 500 T-55 for about £500,000[no ammo] (i have been producing these since i can to NS so i can now do them pretty cheaply)
24-02-2004, 16:11
Lithos Petroleum is willing to assist you with constructing defence networks around certain critical sections of your borders.

We can provide the following defence weapons:

The Lithos Petroleum 10MV High-Voltage Defence Array

http://www.ttr.com/images/tesla2.JPG


This defence array was developed using equipment and techniques pioneered by Nikolai Tesla. It is capable of incinerating soldiers where they stand at distances of up to 100 yards from the base of the structure, and the electrical streams will arc through masses of soldiers, seriously injuring them (if not killing them outright due to the high-voltage electricity coursing through them).

Also, it is capable of disabling and/or destroying enemy vehicles by fusing the metal parts and detonating ammunition stored inside them.

However, it requires a 125-kilowatt power supply (minimum - a 250-kilowatt supply is recommended) for initial charging.

The 10MV High-Voltage Defence Array costs $150,000 per Array Emitter (the structure pictured above), and the power supplies (complete with regulators and surge-dip suppressors) cost $100,000 and $200,000 respectively.

The Lithos Petroleum MDS-15 Multifunction Defence System

This defence system is based on a modular construction principle, meaning that the weapons can be interchanged on a moment's notice.

The basic structure of the Multifunction Defence System is the Armament Mounting Tower, upon which can be mounted various attachments, such as:

Sensor Arrays (to extend the range of various detection apparatus)

ECM Pods (to disrupt enemy communications)

Vulcan Cannons (extremely effective against infantry and lightly-armored vehicles, such as Assault Buggies and Raider Trikes)

AARL-10 Scatterpack surface-to-air missiles (need I say more?)

The Armament Mounting Towers cost $1000, and the various attachments cost from $250 to $700.

Fpor more information on these and other fine defensive weapons, contact your local Lithos Petroleum ambassador.
24-02-2004, 16:14
OOC First of all, try replying in english. And second, noone said that i couldnt use inflation. Secondly, i dont know alot about military prices, and thirdly.. who said anything about Sparrow missiles or Trainer aircraft?
:roll:
you said it was high quality, but the missiles could hardly shoot down a eurofighter.
And dont lie about military prices, ill quote you on that one soon.(unless you changed it as you did about the KA transport. If im wrong then heres some advice:
Do some research, TG someone who does know about military prices, and ask them wether theill help you. simple.
TG means telegraph.
OK?
24-02-2004, 16:22
Lithos Petroleum is willing to assist you with constructing defence networks around certain critical sections of your borders.

We can provide the following defence weapons:

The Lithos Petroleum 10MV High-Voltage Defence Array

http://www.ttr.com/images/tesla2.JPG


This defence array was developed using equipment and techniques pioneered by Nikolai Tesla. It is capable of incinerating soldiers where they stand at distances of up to 100 yards from the base of the structure, and the electrical streams will arc through masses of soldiers, seriously injuring them (if not killing them outright due to the high-voltage electricity coursing through them).

Also, it is capable of disabling and/or destroying enemy vehicles by fusing the metal parts and detonating ammunition stored inside them.

However, it requires a 125-kilowatt power supply (minimum - a 250-kilowatt supply is recommended) for initial charging.

The 10MV High-Voltage Defence Array costs $150,000 per Array Emitter (the structure pictured above), and the power supplies (complete with regulators and surge-dip suppressors) cost $100,000 and $200,000 respectively.

The Lithos Petroleum MDS-15 Multifunction Defence System

This defence system is based on a modular construction principle, meaning that the weapons can be interchanged on a moment's notice.

The basic structure of the Multifunction Defence System is the Armament Mounting Tower, upon which can be mounted various attachments, such as:

Sensor Arrays (to extend the range of various detection apparatus)

ECM Pods (to disrupt enemy communications)

Vulcan Cannons (extremely effective against infantry and lightly-armored vehicles, such as Assault Buggies and Raider Trikes)

AARL-10 Scatterpack surface-to-air missiles (need I say more?)

The Armament Mounting Towers cost $1000, and the various attachments cost from $250 to $700.

Fpor more information on these and other fine defensive weapons, contact your local Lithos Petroleum ambassador.
Future tech, i dont get into that stuff. And if its not it should cost millions for that stuff(your giving it away right now!)
24-02-2004, 16:26
We are selling our AMX-002 Mobile missile launchers,

http://www.missilesandfirecontrol.com/our_products/airdefense/PATRIOT/images/pic-product-patriot.jpg

This launcher has a remote managed fire controll system which is controlled from either a fixed terminal(available from us) or from a mobile Mobile command vehicle.

http://www.aeronautics.ru/archive/armored_vehicles/tank/btr-60pb-02.jpg

This vehicle is equiped with GPS systems, advanced communication suite, ECM and RADAR jamming equipment, and battlefield coordination equipment including a X1 Series combat controll computer. This vehicle is also equiped with a 20 MM anti-aircraft gun.

We supply this launcher with 40 Mach 2.2 Interception missiles

You can either buy the package deal of Launcher, controll terminal and Command vehicle for 2.1 Million Coins, or only the launcher and Terminal for 1.4 Million. The price might seem high, but so is the quality.

We also have qualified engineers for hire that can install the system for you, for a modest price of 5000 Coins a month
Notice the
''You can either buy the package deal of Launcher, controll terminal and Command vehicle for 2.1 Million Coins, or only the launcher and Terminal for 1.4 Million. The price might seem high, but so is the quality.'' Part.
Dont know about military prices...
Umojan
24-02-2004, 16:32
We sell high quality rifles, tanks and other things, just check out the the Umojan Ambassady (http://www.freewebs.com/umojan) for more information.



http://www.sorcerers.net/avatars/custom/elite/Chandos.jpg
Archduke Ceron Agones
Public Ambassador of the United Socialist States of Umojan
The Half-Elven Archduke of the Umojan Defence Ministry
The Umojan Ambassady (http://www.freewebs.com/umojan)
24-02-2004, 16:43
Future tech, i dont get into that stuff. And if its not it should cost millions for that stuff(your giving it away right now!)

None of the items offered are future technology.

The Lithos Petroleum 10MW High-Voltage Defence Array is, as I stated, a military development and implementation of the various types of Tesla Coil air-core transformer-condenser modules, first developed by Nikolai Tesla (OOC: a person whom, I might add, did actually exist, and did develop the aforementioned transformer-condenser modules - I'd recommend you check the links in an earlier thread, "Lithos Petroleum R&D - Project: SHOCK THERAPY").

The Multifunction Defence System, as I mentioned, is a modular system, built for ease of manufacture and rapid deployment, and this is reflected in the price.

Finally, the costs are per item - one Array Emitter, one 125 or 250-kilowatt power supply, one Armament Mounting Tower, etc.

The construction of a complete defence network will, indeed, be quite expensive, depending upon the combination of weapons selected - for example, an array of ten 10MV High-Voltage Defence Array Emitters and the 250-kilowatt power supplies recommended for charging would cost $3,500,000.
Bra-Q
24-02-2004, 18:19
OOC - Look, i dont know jack shit about military prices.. so i named those prices from the top of my head, now frankly i dont have to crap from anyone about this stuff.. if you some valid criticism i would listen to it, but in this case id rather not.

IC Having a sales pitch is normal, considering the great value for money our military hardware is. Especially our Multi-Role aircraft.
Hogsweat
24-02-2004, 18:50
Ha ! Sell! Ha ! HA!

To our brave socialist comrade Titograd -

We present you with 600,000 Ak74E Assault Rifles, high quality weapons used by the Russian Army today. We hope they will serve you well in times of need.
Titograd
24-02-2004, 23:37
Midlonia - we accept your offer: 500 T-55 tanks for $500,000. We are aware these are somewhat obsolete models, but we want to use them partly for practice, and partly for side-operations. We were attracted by the price :)

Umojan - we are interested in your ACB-14 armor. We would like, however, some specifics, as to what comes with the armor - medic-kit, gas-mask, electronics etc? We would be interested to know if you would be willing to manufacture 200 pieces of special armor for the guards of the Central Komitee? They would need mini-cameras, decentralized and highly encoded communication system, as well as a special DNA-recognition system, so that one suit can be wore only by the designated guard. We would also like to know your price for this equipment?

Hogsweat - the 600,000 AK74E rifles are a gift? If so we are eternally grateful. You may count on us in case of an attack on your sovergnity. :)

War_in_heaven - unfortunately we can't afford such high-tech transportations, so our soldiers will have to relly on trains and trucks. We are interested to know if you are willing to sell us the technology to manufacture the M-16 rifles ourselves?
Also, I'm still not sure what is the price for all of this you offered me? Is the corn-flakes deal acceptable, or you need more? We remind you that our nation is rich in products, yet mediocre in cash, because all the taxes we collect we invest in our corn-flakes industry, and from now on our arms industry.
We also buy 100 Medium fire support system 135mm Mortar.

Those who did not get a reply - sorry, I either considered your offer too futuristic or too unbelievable to come from such a small nation. Those that I replied will receive a telegraph just in case they don't see this thread.

Glad to do business with you folks. :wink:
Kazakhstania
26-02-2004, 11:02
Those 10 AA-3E's you ordered are confirmed.
Easy green
26-02-2004, 11:08
if your rearming go for a mbt like the chieften or abrams and look at m16 as they are cheap and effective if no go for ex russian tanks if you want more info or help message me ill gladly help
Titograd
26-02-2004, 12:38
http://www.bornintheussr.com/f094.jpg
The Titograd Army

3 Army Groups:
1) Republican Guard - 20,000 elite troops
Infantry: 14,000, among which are 500 snipers
Tanks: 1,000 T-62 operated by 3,000 men
Artillery: 500 155 mm/45 calibre howitzer - Chinese model, operated by 2,000 men
Airforce: 100 MiG-31, operated by 200 men
Officers: 800 highly trained professions
- every soldier wears the ACB-14 armor from Umojan

2) Professionals - 40,000 professional troops
- mostly infantry and a few tanks

3) The People's Liberation Army - 4,000,000 in case of general mobilization
- mostly infantry

-------------

Available Equipment:
Tanks:
2,000 T-62
500 T-55

Artillery:
500 155 mm/45 calibre howitzer - Chinese model
100 Medium fire support system 135mm Mortar

Armor:
20,000 ACB-14
5,000,000 home-made armor (regular Soviet type)

Rifles:
5,000,000 AK-47
600,000 AK74E

Airforce:
120 MiG-31 fighter planes
10 B-57G bombers
10 RB-57D reconaissance

Missiles:
10 AA-3E
2 SS-1C (non-nuclear warhead)
50 SS-1E (non-nuclear also)

No navy - only some river gunboats
26-02-2004, 12:59
We greet our Titogradian comrades. We wish to send 12 specops advisors to your country. They are experts in weapons, COIN, ATOPS, CQB and unconventional warfare.
Titograd
26-02-2004, 13:11
We thank you for your experts (ooc: although I have no clue what ATOPS means :)). They will be given comfortable housing, as well as a sallary of 16 billion novi dinars (=$16,000).

You have expressed friendship towards our people. You may count on our help in the hour of need.
26-02-2004, 14:03
We thank you for your experts (ooc: although I have no clue what ATOPS means :)). They will be given comfortable housing, as well as a sallary of 16 billion novi dinars (=$16,000).

You have expressed friendship towards our people. You may count on our help in the hour of need.

OOC:Anti Terrorist Operations, that's ATOPS my young padawan :wink: