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ATM-15B anti-tank missile

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ATM-15B is a third- generation "fire and forget" anti-tank guided missile with a range of 8 to 10 kilometers. ATM-15B can be mounted on an infantry combat vehicle or tank, helicopter, or from an anti-tank aircraft.
The ATM-15B is a third generation anti-tank missile system with “fire and forget” and “top attack” capabilities. Capable of defeating modern armour, ATM-15B uses Imaging Infra-Red (IIR) guidance having both day and night capability. The state-of-the-art Imaging Infra Red homing guidance system has lock-on-before-launch capability for day and night operation.

A smokeless nitramine based propellant has been developed for the ATM-15B. The missile is carried either on modified infantry vehicles, tanks, helicopters, or aircraft. Its high strength composite airframe with foldable wings and fins, onboard real time processor with fast and efficient algorithms, compact sensor package and electric actuation system, digital autopilot and high immunity to counter measures, make this a formidable missile.

Both Army and Air Force versions are being tested separately. For the Army, the missiles will be carried by specialist carrier vehicles equipped with a thermal imager for target acquisition. It can carry four missiles at a time. Also, it can be utilised on helicopters and on tanks, with an infantry-carried version being developed. For the Air Force, a nose-mounted thermal imaging system has been developed for guiding the missile's trajectory.


Tracking Sensors
GPS, Millimetric Radar, IIR (Main), Thermal (Air Force-version)


Targetting system
ALMRS/TTAC-15MAT- Before launch, a target is acquired and 'downloaded' into the system. This system then takes that target information and relays it to the other sensors, and upon launch, then those sensors home into the target.
Targets can be locked in at ranges exceeding 6 km.



Firing modes
Random fire- Just aiming the launcher at a target and firing, allowing the onboard sensors to find and engage a target; Selected fire- Using the ALMRS/TTAC-15MAT system to target and then firing, allowing greater accuracy and better defense against electronic-warfare weapons.



How it engages target:
Upon missile launch, the missile soars into the air at a speed of about 1100 m/s. When it reaches a certain point along its upward path it accelerates to about 1500 m/s. Using onboard computers it calculates the correct 'hypotenuse' of its target vector and when reaching a certain point it angles downward and accelerates to 1650 m/s. Using this it hits the weakened armor of the upper portions of the tank. It will either hit the turret portion or the rear engine portion, both hits will effectively disable the tank.

When the missile impacts a target, its heavy front end (solid steel with depleted uranium) pushes into the target and either caves in the armor or ignites ERA, then the midsection-mounted warhead penetrates the armor or lodges into it and explodes...

Survivability
The ATM-15B has its warhead about midsection, making it harder for lasers to detonate the warhead. The missile also moves too fast for modern laser countermeasure systems, making it nearly impossible to keep a bead on the missile long enough to heat it to the point it explodes (unlikely since it'll most likely target the front portion of missile). Also, in case any laser manages to hit the front end and disable guidance systems, it has reserve systems towards the rear of the missile that can still guide it to its target.

Multiple Roles
You may ask why it has a GPS receiver, well, to turn the ATM-15B into a precision guided weapon to engage stationary targets that do not emit heat. The missile can be used in this role immediately with no preparation, although with reduced efficiency. When optimum destruction and lethality is wanted, all you have to do is remove the guidance systems cap (the most extreme forward portion of the missile), remove the forward portion of the missile and slide on the XMT-12C 49 kg warhead. Then replace the guidance cap, and voila, you have a precision air-to-ground missile that can be guided by either thermal/IIR or by a GPS receiver and takes minimal effort to change.

Updated- Shortcomings fixed.
A recent complaint about the ATM-15A (Now its the ATM-15B with the new modifications) about 'debris' discharged after launch of the missile has been fixed. This possibly-catastrophic flaw was the result of poor quality controls at the missile's power plant production site. This problem has been fixed and the missile's engine has been redesigned, allowing for a more rigid and strong engine with minimal vibrations as well as other altercations. Another update is its guidance system. To allow for greater accuracy the missile has been updated to allow for multiple sensors to guide the missile to the target. This function will automatically turn on when the missile is engaged and locked on to a target, unless some of its sensors were stripped off the missile, leaving only one usable sensor, then it will fire as normal. Another modification along these lines is its newly updated flight and fire control computer. Now, the computer, when receiving sensor information 'showing' where the target is, actually takes the information and narrows it down further therefore making it home in on a smaller target and if it somehow waivers a bit off course, it'll still hit the main target.

Also, to improve its accuracy against fast moving targets, a system has been put into place to allow for 'short-burst' maneuvers using small rocket motors mounted in the front of the missile. These small rockets can allow for an instant change of course. Of course, right after the small rocket fires and changes course, its main engine 'spikes' and speeds up temporarily to give it velocity in its new course and not let the missile travel sideways for awhile.

Its final modification to allow for greater accuracy is its use of new stabilizer and guidance fins with improved electric motors that allow precise movement as dictated by the missiles flight guidance computer. Information that is sent to the motors is relayed by fiber-optic cable, allowing for quicker reaction to changing conditions and a more stable movement procedure.



Data for ATM-15B:
Length- 2.85 m (9 ft 3 in)
Diameter- 16.2 cm (6.4 in)
Weight- 110 kg
Speed- 1650 m/s
Range- > 5000 m
Propulsion-Updated SB-SFSBCR-15B Solid-fueled rocket
Warhead- Mid-body 15kg conventional warhead

Cost per unit:$49,250 USD
Each missile comes with the secondary warhead (with 49 kg warhead)

I would like to order 2,500 of your ATM-15A missiles. I would also like to inquire whether or not the production rights are available? Thank you.

$28,125,000 will be wired upon confirmation of order.

-Chairman Boris Zvoryka

Order confirmed.

Production rights cost $56.25 million USD.

*Money Wired*

As for the production rights, I'll wait to purchase those. My coming stock of missiles will suffice for the time being...Thank you.

-Chairman Boris Zvoryka

Don't suppose this could be launched by a single infantry man? If not, do you have any suggestions for a reliable, accurate, and powerful infantry anti-tank weapon?

Well, technically no... But this one fires a variant of the ATM-15A, the ATM-7A. And here's a picture of the launcher (we just finished developing it):


ML-2A Anti-tank missile Launcher
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*note: the device next to it is an ALMRS/TTAC-15MAT system used in testing, otherwise, a smaller version is installed on the launcher itself*

Note: The ML-2A fires the ATM-7A, which is a smaller clone of the ATM-15A. Its roughly 2.7 feet long and weighs about 18 pounds per rocket but it shares the same systems and speed.

The ML-2A launcher weighs about 46 pounds.

The system requires two men to operate. One man can operate it but at extremely reduced efficiency.

The cost for the ATM-7A launcher (the ML-2A) and one missile is $16,700 USD.

Each ATM-7A missile costs 1,400 USD and production rights to the ATM-7A costs 14 million USD. Production rights to the ML-2A costs 16.7 million USD.

Hmm... Then how well does it work against laser-countermeasures?

It simply moves too fast for modern, conventional laser systems. A laser that can blow it out of the sky upon contact has not been developed and modern systems move far too slow to keep a bead on it long enough to heat it to the point that it explodes. And if it were capable of doing so, it would only scorch the front half of the missile (which is the primary targeting systems, but secondary systems reside near the rear and are capable of guiding the missile to its target), and not harm the warhead that lies about midsection.

Hmm... We'll take 576 of the launchers with the missile for testing purposes. We believe that totals to 9,619,200. Money has been wired.

We were hoping for something more similar to an RPG, since the launched is a lot to carry... But we'll see how it works anyways.

I would like to aquire production rights, 56.25 million wired upon confirmation.

Very well, order confirmed. The system was designed for long-range target acquisition and firing with optimum accuracy and lethality, and therefore it may be a little hefty, but two men can handle it well and thats what we recommend it for.

Das uber-deutschland: Order confirmed. Production schematics being sent as I speak.

GPS guidance :?:

On my AT Missile, which I am releasing tommorow, its Thermal and only thermal guided :D

-Multiple post-

GPS guidance was put on the missile for use by the DP-21G ground attack fighter, allowing it to type in a target and launch the missile from the most extreme range with the GPS guiding it to a certain point until the thermal/IIR trackers could track the target and engage it. Although the system can be considered useless, the GPS guidance system adds only 6 pounds to the overall weight and takes up negligeable room and also costs an additional $120. What does this mean you ask? Why the hell not add one?

With the GPS system it can also turn the ATM-15A into a guided, precision weapon to engage stationary targets that do not emit heat. Of course, it won't be too utterly effective but then that's why you can interchange the forward portions, adding a 40 kg warhead onto the ATM-15A to turn it into this precision role, making it an effective multi-role ground-attack missile, meaning more elasticity and all-around usefulness. Say you have a bunch of these missile for anti-tank roles but need weapons to engage bunkers and buildings and what not... Just slide off the forward half and slide on the heavier warhead and replace the guidance cap (the area at the extreme front end of the missile) and, voila, you have a precision, guided missile for use against stationary, armored targets.



*bump*

Bump.

I would like 500 of these rockets
money wired

Order Confirmed.

OOC: sorry i never got off my lazy arse and did anything, now i'll really have to work on the multirole missile...

Anyway your cost seems perfectly fine

IC: as an iterim measure until the Crookfur MRHVM comes on line the MOD has authorised the purchase of 600units

We would inquire about the possibility of a thermo baric warhead (just thinking out loud from the hellfire warheads...)

Sell us 20 of ur ATM-15A beasts mate.

Both orders confirmed... And units being shipped immediately from current stockpiles.


Crookfur- Hmm... Thermo-baric warhead would work on this missile... I'll have to look into it a little deeper.

Funds wired.

I did a quick search for more info on the TB hellfire it does look promising.

Bump.

opps

opps.

Bump...

Qen Land
will buy Forty ATM-7A

Order confirmed. Units being shipped now.

The nation of Audiophilia is very interested in both items and would like to buy the production rights for both. $56,250,000 will be sent electronically upon confirmation. Pleasure doing business with you

I don't know much about missiles. But a surface-launched missile that goes up to 1500 m/s.....That's...it seems phenomenal. 1500 meters per second........ -shrug- I'll look up some other speeds.

Communist Rule- The ground launched missile is capable of reaching 1500 m/s. I'd elaborate but I do not have much time.

I will take 300 more atm-15 A anti tank misseles and 300 Ml-2 A anti tank missel launcher for 40 billion dollares

All orders confirmed.

Communist Rule-

In the real world, the United States is currently testing or fielding the MGM-166 LOSAT/KEM (Line-of-sight, anti-tank/Kinetic-energy missile) which exceeds 1500 m/s. The system in order to fire that is too large and is instead mounted on a HMMWV unit. As our weapons development and research is beyond that stage, we have designed and built a unit, transportable by man that still holds most if not all the same characteristics of the MGM-166's fire control systems.. Also, in RL, the MGM-166 missile is a little too large to be fielded by a single man. Our ATM-7A is roughly two-thirds (or maybe three-fifths... somewhere around there) the size of the MGM-166, but weighs a quarter of what the MGM-166 weighs, due to reduced computer/fire control systems and the use of light, composite materials. Also, the ATM-7A uses a little less fuel then the MGM-166 but still has an onboard fuel tank that is about five-sixths of the MGM-166's (the fuel tank on the ATM-7A extends into what would've been the area where the MGM-166's depleted uranium/steel section would have been [the MGM-166 was a hit-to-kill missile with reinforced frame]). With this relatively low weight and a more state-of-the-art and powerful rocket motor, the ATM-7A is able to reach speeds up to 1500 m/s which is still below the speed of the MGM-166 (but not that much).

The Ministry of Defence would like to purchase 22 missiles forevaluation by the Air Force. If this system were to be put intowidespread use, they would arm our EA-26,EA-32 and EA-34 attack helicopters in anti-tank duties. However we must ask what sensors are required to launch the missile as only a small amount of our helicopters are currently equipped with millimetric search/fire control radars.

(Also we are extreme capitalist, does that mean we cant buy?)

The Ministry of Defence would like to purchase 22 missiles forevaluation by the Air Force. If this system were to be put intowidespread use, they would arm our EA-26,EA-32 and EA-34 attack helicopters in anti-tank duties. However we must ask what sensors are required to launch the missile as only a small amount of our helicopters are currently equipped with millimetric search/fire control radars.

(Also we are extreme capitalist, does that mean we cant buy?)

It does matter if you are capitalist, we do business with all forms of government (except, of course, tyrannical dictators [at least the ones that harm their own citizens]).


The ATM-15A can fire using thermal/IIR sensors, which your helicopters should probably have installed. But, if you want the millimetric wave radar capability, we can include the ALMRS/TTAC-17MS Missile Fire Control System which includes all necessary sensors (including millimetric wave radar) and, as far as we know, can easily be attached to most if not all systems.

Otherwise, order confirmed.

It does matter if you are capitalist, we do business with all forms of government (except, of course, tyrannical dictators [at least the ones that harm their own citizens]).


The ATM-15A can fire using thermal/IIR sensors, which your helicopters should probably have installed. But, if you want the millimetric wave radar capability, we can include the ALMRS/TTAC-17MS Missile Fire Control System which includes all necessary sensors (including millimetric wave radar) and, as far as we know, can easily be attached to most if not all systems.

Otherwise, order confirmed.

Thank you that is perfectly satisfactory. We have an indigenous millimetric radar and associated fire control system that we are slowly introducing to the fleet but since they have a unit cost of 3 million each (Longbow radar being 3.5), we do not wish to procure more systems than necessary. i.e one or two aircraft in each squadron.

Can we asume the ATM-15A uses a precursor warhead to defeat ERA?

The Zoogie People notes this new weapon with great interest, and hopes to arm its heavy attack helicopters, reconaissance attack helicopters, and insanely large helicopter gunships, as well as other possible military products, with this tank. We would like to acquire production rights - $57 million, I believe?

The Zoogie People notes this new weapon with great interest, and hopes to arm its heavy attack helicopters, reconaissance attack helicopters, and insanely large helicopter gunships, as well as other possible military products, with this tank. We would like to acquire production rights - $57 million, I believe?

UE- Yes, it does have a small precursor warhead to set off ERA.


Zoogie People- Confirmed. We'll send the plans immediately.

I would like to order 100 missiles. Money wired.

I Would Like: 2 ML-2As, 20 ATM-7As, 20 ATM-15As. Money Wired On Arrival
I Would Also Like To Know If The 7As Can Be Launched From Units.

Both orders confirmed.

Ddeeaadd- Yes, they can be fired from 'units'. I'm not sure if you mean from vehicles or soldiers, but it can be fired from both.

Bump.

OOC: BTW I just noticed the price and its wau too cheap, it should be anywhere from 40,000- 60,000 per copy based on RL missiles that have been produced in large qunantities.

IC;

The Air Force Research and Evaluation Board (AFREB) have made a number of test firings from EA-24 (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=40824), EA-26 (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=68324&highlight=) and EA-28 (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=66401) Helicopters. Although 21 out of 22 missiles hit the desired target, several firings resulted in damage to the helicopters after debrs was discharged during launch. Although none of the damge was sufficient to result in catasprophic failure of the airframes, we believe that this is still an unacceptable side affect of the missile.

Further investigation has led us to believe that the defect is a result of poor quality controls during manufacture of the missile's powerplant, and we believe that with certain modifications, the ATM-15 would be acceptable to the Elias Air Force.

Sincerely,
Minister of Defence Procurement and Export

pathetic copy of my bayonet missiles 8)

The ARSB Arms Production Service wishes to thank United Elias for informing us of this 'defect' and regrets the fact that they were faulty and damaged your helicopters. We would also wish to inform United Elias that we have updated the missile and improved quality controls at all of our plants that produce parts for this missile.

If United Elias wishes, we will provide another 22 missiles for you to test, free of charge to 'reimburse' you for the cost of the first 22 and to, in a sense, repay for the damage to your helicopters.


Updated- Shortcomings fixed.
A recent complaint about the ATM-15A (Now its the ATM-15B with the new modifications) about 'debris' discharged after launch of the missile has been fixed. This possibly-catastrophic flaw was the result of poor quality controls at the missile's power plant production site. This problem has been fixed and the missile's engine has been redesigned, allowing for a more rigid and strong engine with minimal vibrations and with no unnecessary equipment that could be knocked loose. The entire engine mount has been reinforced and all other mounts have been reinforced to prevent the above-mentioned problem. Another update is its guidance system. To allow for greater accuracy the missile has been updated to allow for multiple sensors to guide the missile to the target. This function will automatically turn on when the missile is engaged and locked on to a target, unless some of its sensors were stripped off the missile, leaving only one usable sensor, then it will fire as normal. Another modification along these lines is its newly updated flight and fire control computer. Now, the computer, when receiving sensor information 'showing' where the target is, actually takes the information and narrows it down further therefore making it home in on a smaller target and if it somehow waivers a bit off course, it'll still hit the main target.

Also, to improve its accuracy against fast moving targets, a system has been put into place to allow for 'short-burst' maneuvers using small rocket motors mounted in the front of the missile. These small rockets can allow for an instant change of course. Of course, right after the small rocket fires and changes course, its main engine 'spikes' and speeds up temporarily to give it velocity in its new course and not let the missile travel sideways.

Its final modification to allow for greater accuracy is its use of new stabilizer and guidance fins with improved electric motors that allow precise movement as dictated by the missiles flight guidance computer. Information that is sent to the motors is relayed by fiber-optic cable, allowing for quicker reaction to changing conditions and a more stable movement procedure.
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We will also send a kit to update this missile to the ATM-15B to all nations that bought these missiles. This kit will contain all the necessary parts and information to update the ATM-15A to the ATM-15B. This kit is free of charge and each nation that has purchased these missiles will be receiving one for each missile they purchased.


OOC- Fixed the price. Thanks.

Thank you very much for rapidly responding to our report. AFREB would be happy to take delivery of 22 ATM-15Bs and if this minor technical problem has indeed been entirely rectified we would most likely place a significant order for this type.


In additon to the Air Force evaluation of the missile, the Army has now expressd an interest also. Currently the Army Procurment Committee is researching ways in which a percentage of the BMP-3 IFV fleet can be upgraded using 'bolt-on' systems that would be easy and relatively cost effective to install. The ATM-15 would be perfect as it would provide a serious improvement in anti-tank capability. Before we go any further with this side of the venture can we ask what launcher the missile requires when being fired from an armoured vehicle and what other upgrades the vehicle would need to fire this weapon?

Sincerely,
Minister of Defence Procurement and Export

For vehicle use, any suitable launcher (that fits the missile) can be used. The only additional systems to be added would just be an uplink/fire-control system to the main system of the vehicle which would allow the crewman inside the vehicle to acquire a target and engage that target as well as a millimetric radar system.


If you would like, we can provide you with the launchers and the additional systems to fire the missile, although we are willing to bet you already have everything.

For vehicle use, any suitable launcher (that fits the missile) can be used. The only additional systems to be added would just be an uplink/fire-control system to the main system of the vehicle which would allow the crewman inside the vehicle to acquire a target and engage that target as well as a millimetric radar system.


If you would like, we can provide you with the launchers and the additional systems to fire the missile, although we are willing to bet you already have everything.

Our BMP-3s are not equipped with millimetric radar systems, although they do have thermal imagiing laser range finders, presumably this is sufficient to guide the missile as it would be with aircraft?

Do you have compuntions against selling this missile to the criminal underground.
John Jackson
Heaven's Devils
Postscript: Also, does this thing fit chemical warheads? It would be the perfect way to get back at a rival gang, and some of our members are quite rich...

ill buy 1000 anti tank missiles and ill wire the money on confirmation

United Elias, yes, the thermal imaging system is sufficient enough.

The Completely Free, we will not sell them to the 'criminal underground'.

Beaversmoles, order confirmed. Units will be shipped immediately.

I will buy 200 ATM-15B anti-tank missile for $985,0000


*money wired on comformation*

Order confirmed. Units will be shipped immediately from current stockpiles.

Order:50 ATM-15B anti-tank missile sytems
Money wired when order is confirmed.

Order confirmed. Units will be shipped immediately from current stockpiles.

bump

Bump.

Upon completion of a thorough and rigorous operational evaluation, the Air Force wishes to place an order for 856 missiles for the time being.

The Army would like to purchase, a total of 68 ATM-15Bs for trials on our BMP-3 infantry fighting vehicles.

Sincerely,
Minister of Defence Procurement and Export

Order confirmed. Units will be shipped immediately from our current stockpiles. We thank you for your order.

Order confirmed. Units will be shipped immediately from our current stockpiles. We thank you for your order.

Order confirmed. Units will be shipped immediately from our current stockpiles. We thank you for your order.

After extensive evaluation, we would like to purchase the production rights for this weapon.

Production rights granted at 56.25 Million USD. Thank you for the order.

Funds Transfered.

I'll take 5,000 of these, if ya don't mind...

*Money Wired*

OOC: Tag

IC: The Department of Defence wishes to know if the production rights for this missile are avaliable to us as well.

China and Japan- Order confirmed. Units will be built and shipped over a two year period at about two-thousand per year. An initial one-thousand missile shipment will be sent immediately from current stockpiles.

IH- Production rights will be granted to you at $56.25 Million USD.

Thank you.

$56.25Million USD has been wired to your account.

Thank you.

$56.25Million USD has been wired to your account.

You are welcome. Designs have already been sent. Enjoy.