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Alright, since the Dr_Twist/ViZion thread is only for allied of us, and ESF thread is only for him and his allies, I have decided to make this for both sides to talk. So, start talking.

(My reply to ESF in http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=125899 after he claimed he have made genocide threats)
Genocide? No, even IF ViZion enters against you, we will make sure no genocide is committed. We have already told one of the supporters of the war that we will not tolerate genocide, and will be forced to fight then if they commit it.

And, no, we are not moving on towards you. Hell, we aren't even at war, we're currently DISCUSSING IF we should, and why. Also, please note that ViZion is only PART human. And, trust me, the other nations, if this war begins, will be invaded, too.

Wow so many threads this is growing fast as.....

Wow so many threads this is growing fast as..... OOC: lol, doesn't it always? Also, since both of the other threads were allied-specific, this one is for both sides.

occ: Never thought just wanting to control the cities I have lived in in nationstates would lead to this. -_-

occ: Never thought just wanting to control the cities I have lived in in nationstates would lead to this. -_-
OOC: Then let's do a little debating...

occ: Never thought just wanting to control the cities I have lived in in nationstates would lead to this. -_-

But thats the ponit you may live in them in Real Life, and in Real life they belong to the USA, but in Nation States they belong to other nations that may also live in those citys and so on.

IC:
But when i first entered that thread I had made a deal with another to attack. Then when i did, I was not in any countys that other nations claimed until much later in the excersise. We do not see were we where at fault.

Arg, Me Matey, Lets Go A...a.....er......a......er.......er.....Whatever....

You dont have to be. Its the simple fact that you still invaded another nation or w/e you want to call it. That is clearly against international law. Now I think i speak for all of my other allies wheni say that there is no way that we will allow this and that you only have two permissible choices. Either give back the land that you took over, or be invaded. That is the only way i see a possible end to this situation.

IC:
Theres another point. I had surrender and yet on of thier allies continued to pursue me and threatened me with genocide. That is moraly wrong. How can thier war be just if they continue to pursue me after I surendered?

Well then let me just say this, ANY nation that performs genocide will answer to Credonia and to its allies, and trust me, the end result wont be pretty. Invading a nation is just as serious as comitting an act of genocide, and it doesnt matter who comits that act, the international community will not stand for it nor can we allow it.

But theres one question left to be asked, do you still have forces in the territory that you tried to take over?

IC:
Technically I do but they are in an unreversable coma. So I don't know if that realy counts?

Well then I suggest you pull them out. Credonia will assist if needs be but, i think the general consensus is that we want you OUT of that land, and you will be left alone and no further actions will be taken upon you.

IC:
A small transport guarded by 4 UF-X3s headed to San Antonio to recover the 500 comatosed elves. (btw due to the contents in thier poison (thats what caused thier coma) once back inside elven lands they are revitalized).

With official authorization from both sides of this incident, Credonia requests permission to send in troops to sweep the lands and clean up any hazardous materials left and to ensure that no ESF troops remain in the territory.

IC:
You have the consent of the temporary ruler , General Legoman , to ensure that our job is done.

ESF will pay for their crimes against the Texan people.

ESF will pay for their disrespecful attitude toward Pantera and the Lord Reaver.

ESF WILL submit and comply with the terms I have put forth.

ESF will do all of these things, be it by righteous rebellion of its peoples, by the honorable submission of its leaders, or by fire and blood. The choice remains in their hands, though I will warn that my patience runs thin and every moment I wait will make my appeasement more difficult.

Vengeance will belong to those noble Texans who have died, and their raging Reaver brothers, who even now sail ever closer to ESF.

Stop posting the same thing in different topics. Espicially when its not true.

Stop posting the same thing in different topics. Espicially when its not true.

What is so untrue about it?

The fact that soon your nation will light up the night sky, burning with the flame of vengeance?

The fact that you are a nation of cowards, too chickenshit to follow through with what you start?

The fact that even now my Reavers approach your shores, ready to rape and burn their way into your heartland?

The fact that you will answer for your crimes, and that your wails of repentance will echo through the halls of eternity?

Trust me, coward. All I have said will come to pass, much to the dismay of your people.

Bastien the Bronze
Lord Reaver of Pantera
Drag the Waters of War

IC:
Just your statements like that alone prove you are a corrupt nation. Your frivilous pursuits of genocide will not abide well with the international community. So please just do it already.

The Dr_Twist Government Condems Genocide even if it is an Allie FULL STOP.

ESF isn't the only Nation being Targeted here, all the nations that were Involved in the Nation will be targeted.

No matter What happens ESF Violated International Law.

This isn't in any way Racial, This is about International Law.

Stop posting the same thing in different topics. Espicially when its not true.

What is so untrue about it?

The fact that soon your nation will light up the night sky, burning with the flame of vengeance?

The fact that you are a nation of cowards, too chickenshit to follow through with what you start?

The fact that even now my Reavers approach your shores, ready to rape and burn their way into your heartland?

The fact that you will answer for your crimes, and that your wails of repentance will echo through the halls of eternity?

Trust me, coward. All I have said will come to pass, much to the dismay of your people.

Bastien the Bronze
Lord Reaver of Pantera
Drag the Waters of War


CHILL OUT. And people wonder why peace cant be attained. Its because of hotheaded nations and the remarks they say. Now were on the road to peace here. Chill out and everything will get worked out in due time. Using offensive names and rash talk wont solve anything, so shush up before we end up in a war that could have been averted.

CHILL OUT. And people wonder why peace cant be attained. Its because of hotheaded nations and the remarks they say. Now were on the road to peace here. Chill out and everything will get worked out in due time. Using offensive names and rash talk wont solve anything, so shush up before we end up in a war that could have been averted.

This war can still be averted, should ESF lay down their arms and submit to the terms I have already put forth. After countless tries, diplomacy has failed and the invasion of ESF has begun.

CHILL OUT. And people wonder why peace cant be attained. Its because of hotheaded nations and the remarks they say. Now were on the road to peace here. Chill out and everything will get worked out in due time. Using offensive names and rash talk wont solve anything, so shush up before we end up in a war that could have been averted.

This war can still be averted, should ESF lay down their arms and submit to the terms I have already put forth. After countless tries, diplomacy has failed and the invasion of ESF has begun.

To hell with your terms. They are too unreasonable. What is your true purpose in this conflict?

CHILL OUT. And people wonder why peace cant be attained. Its because of hotheaded nations and the remarks they say. Now were on the road to peace here. Chill out and everything will get worked out in due time. Using offensive names and rash talk wont solve anything, so shush up before we end up in a war that could have been averted.

This war can still be averted, should ESF lay down their arms and submit to the terms I have already put forth. After countless tries, diplomacy has failed and the invasion of ESF has begun.

To hell with your terms. They are too unreasonable. What is your true purpose in this conflict?

Vengeance.

I would advise you kept your nose out of matters that do not concern you in the least. These bastards made their bed, with plenty of opportunities for peace. Allow them to lie in it.

CHILL OUT. And people wonder why peace cant be attained. Its because of hotheaded nations and the remarks they say. Now were on the road to peace here. Chill out and everything will get worked out in due time. Using offensive names and rash talk wont solve anything, so shush up before we end up in a war that could have been averted.

This war can still be averted, should ESF lay down their arms and submit to the terms I have already put forth. After countless tries, diplomacy has failed and the invasion of ESF has begun.

To hell with your terms. They are too unreasonable. What is your true purpose in this conflict?

Vengeance.

I would advise you kept your nose out of matters that do not concern you in the least. These bastards made their bed, with plenty of opportunities for peace. Allow them to lie in it.

Were you to only target their leaders and military, I get the feeling that Credonia would gladly do so. Because you have threatened genocide, however, you invite intervention on behalf of a government that would otherwise deserve what it is getting. Were you to provide concrete guarantees that your intentions do not encompass genocide and the murder of civilians, you would find a much less hostile reception to your plans.

Oh please, thats BS. Your not givng them a chance for peace. Your trying to boss them around like they're your slave or something, and quite frankly im getting fed up with you. Keep going the way you are and i'll side with ESF and face you myself if needs be.

Were you to only target their leaders and military, I get the feeling that Credonia would gladly do so. Because you have threatened genocide, however, you invite intervention on behalf of a government that would otherwise deserve what it is getting. Were you to provide concrete guarantees that your intentions do not encompass genocide and the murder of civilians, you would find a much less hostile reception to your plans.

Though my anger gets the best of me at times, innocents across the world know they need not fear my Reavers unless they were to take up arms against them. I am an honorable man, as my allies, neutral nations and yes, even many enemies will affirm. Genocide is the last thing I wish. Many elven citizens live in Pantera, and a few have even attained the title of Reaver. I'm sure they would be most displeased if I launched a pogram against their kindred. They frighten me, as I know what Reavers can be capable of, much more than these cowards arrayed behind ESF.

Pantera you a WAY out of line.

No only are you threatening the ESF you are threatening Credonia, A long time friend of Pure Evil, A threat on Credonia is considered a threat on Pure Evil. You can talk all you like but I can guarantee you one thing. If you or your allies attack ESF or Credonia you will not only have them to contend with, you will have Pure Evil against you too.

Unless fair terms are put forward talks will stall and we will have a huge bluff war until someone talkes it too far and all hell break loose, Im sure no ones wants that.

OCC:*I would like it noted that I evan offered tribute to him on the origanal thread for peace but he either never replied or refused it*.

Pantera you a WAY out of line.

No only are you threatening the ESF you are threatening Credonia, A long time friend of Pure Evil, A threat on Credonia is considered a threat on Pure Evil. You can talk all you like but I can guarantee you one thing. If you or your allies attack ESF or Credonia you will not only have them to contend with, you will have Pure Evil against you too.

Unless fair terms are put forward talks will stall and we will have a huge bluff war until someone talkes it too far and all hell break loose, Im sure no ones wants that.

Your threats are hollow. Side with these cowards and forever label yourself an enemy to Pantera. Credonia has little to no stake in this, and as of now I have made no threats against him.

That will change NOW.

Mind your fucking business. These fools have called down my vengeance, and will pay the price. Weigh the lives of those that will be saved should my terms be met against those that I will take should I be defied. I have no wish to spill any blood other than that of the ones ruling in ESF, but I will, Gods help me I will.

It seems simple to me, however if need be I will make my point even clearer:

I will be appeased by the surrender of ESF to Pantera. No harm will come to the populace should they choose to submit. However, continued defiance will cost ESF dearly, as well as those who fight alongside them. As I said, simple enough, no?

Bastien the Bronze
Lord Reaver of Pantera
Drag the Waters of War

We will not surrender our country to you. Your actions just wont let me do this to my nation. Mayb if you would of looked at the origanal thread before this burst of genocidal thinking , you would of saw i was willing to give up some concennsions. But no you decdied to continue with your warmungering, So I will not hand my nation over to your rule.

We will not surrender our country to you. Your actions just wont let me do this to my nation. Mayb if you would of looked at the origanal thread before this burst of genocidal thinking , you would of saw i was willing to give up some concennsions. But no you decdied to continue with your warmungering, So I will not hand my nation over to your rule.

OOC: Fair enough, reply to my attack in the invasion thread.

IC:

Then you condemn yourselves to the fire.

A warning to other nations:

I am quite done with fucking around here. These fools continue to defy me, and condemn themselves out of their own mouth. Do not get involved here, or the price in lives will be great. *IF* you allow Pantera to punish these cowards as we see fit, we will allow peacekeepers from your nations into ESF once we hold it, to ensure no 'genocide' occurs, as you all seem so terrified of happening.

This is getting way out of line and is wreaking a possible Role Play.

The Dr_Twist government is discussed with Pantera actions in this thread and many others.

This is getting way out of line and is wreaking a possible Role Play.

The Dr_Twist government is discussed with Pantera actions in this thread and many others.

I'm fairly disgusted as well, which is what I assume you meant. I'm disgusted by OOC whining at me for doing what is ENTIRELY INF-CKINGCHARACTER FOR ME TO DO.

The only thing that wrecked this RP is someone not wanting to take IC responsibility for their IC actions. Plain and simple.

After a Long Government meeting into the Night with Government Official’s Dr_Twist Armed Forces Officials and the Tsar himself, it has been determined that it is no longer in any way in the nations of Allies Interest to pursue a case with Elves Security Forces. But we do warn him and hope he learns from this case.

Sorry to say im with D.T. on this one