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The end of ESF?

imported_Pantera
23-02-2004, 08:06
With the possible entry of Dormie into this conflict, let it be jknown that should any other nations decide to aid these cowards that I will call upon allies of my own, and will urge Twist to do the same. As a memeber of the Allied Powers I could call upon them to aid Pantera in your destruction, but I'm sure AMF and Tersanctus will be enough, seeing as they have a thirst for the blood of cravens such as yourselves that rivals my own.

Let us keep it simple, eh?

Bastien the Bronze
Lord Reaver of Pantera
Drag the Waters of War

{{ My last IC post in that thread. Let's move it here so we don't hijack Parlims thread.

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=125000&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=100
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Dr_Twist
23-02-2004, 08:07
The ESF is messing with Nations and Alliance That are large enough to launch a World War in Nationstates, Let it be known we will not give up!
23-02-2004, 08:14
Our terrorists, though small in numbers after they fled during the invasion, will support ESF.
Elves Security Forces
23-02-2004, 08:19
OCC: Exactly not what i wanted to bring me into the big picture of NS. -_-
IC:
Although we appreciate the support , we do not want it. We cant abide terriorists and we shall either fall or win against these corrupt powers alone with my allys.
23-02-2004, 08:19
Our ally, Euroslavia is affiliated with Pantera. Furthermore, The Allied Powers also pledged their support for The Kingdom of the Midlands during our brief war with GCON - and now they will have my nation's backing as well.
Dundaine
23-02-2004, 08:24
Well as much as i would like to make history with a WW i ahve decided to pull out texas isnt worth the millions of lives it would cost

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imported_ViZion
23-02-2004, 08:27
OCC: Exactly not what i wanted to bring me into the big picture of NS. -_-
IC:
Although we appreciate the support , we do not want it. We cant abide terriorists and we shall either fall or win against these corrupt powers alone with my allys.
OOC: Good idea... if you accepted their help, I'd have entered right now, but now...

IC: We will be monitering this situation, and if requested by allies, we will enter.
Dr_Twist
23-02-2004, 08:30
Thank you Vizion for your Support as allways :D
imported_ViZion
23-02-2004, 08:32
Thank you Vizion for your Support as allways :D No problem. :-)
imported_Pantera
23-02-2004, 08:34
The gargantuan Panteran fleet sails ever closer to the ESF homeland, but the Lord Reaver offers a final ultimatum:

The Reavers of Pantera understand what it is like to be proud. We understand also the sting of admitting you were wrong. We also understand the urge to fight on when there is no hope. Be that as it may, we must yet again implore the governing body of ESF to submit, accept their fate, and allow the fine peoples of their nation to continue living.

Panteran and Dr_Twist terms:

*Your military will lay down their weapons and surrender themselves to Reaver and Twist forces.
*Your government will surrender to a joint regency, presided over by representatives from both the Panteran and Dr_Twist governments.
*The coward leaders of your nation will submit and surrender themselves to the Regency to stand trial as war criminals in a neutral court.
*Reperations in the form of 6 Trillion of your currency will be paid to the government of the now United Texas.
*An additional 1 trillion of your currency will be paid to both the Panteran and Twist governments, for our goodwill and appeasement.

In return, the nations of Pantera and Dr_Twist will vow that:

*No peaceable citizen of your nation will be harmed during our regency
*Your people will be allowed to elect a new governing body who will assume control of your nation in two years time when the Pantera/Twist regency comes to its end.
*Your nation will be allowed to unconditionally re-arm itself.


These are my final terms. Bend the knee, admit defeat, and save countless lives. Continue with this foolishness, and shaming defeat will be the least of your worries. You will cringe and cower as my Reavers erect a forest of corpses around your nation, their screams proclaiming your foolishness to the world.

Bastien the Bronze
Lord Reaver of Pantera
Drag the Waters of War
imported_Pantera
23-02-2004, 08:35
OOC: Dormie, will you take out the pic in your post, please? It's just ruining my page width.
Elves Security Forces
23-02-2004, 08:44
IC:
Seeing as how we our at a time of Reelction we have no government leaders. Our armed forces are on the way home in transports and the rest of the forces arnt mustered. Our people will not allow foregin power to rule thier country. We are bankrupt at this time because we spent it all on the development and building of our UF multi-purpose jet.
These are the conditions of the country and military , assume what conditions are met and what arent.
imported_Pantera
23-02-2004, 08:48
IC:
Seeing as how we our at a time of Reelction we have no government leaders. Our armed forces are on the way home in transports and the rest of the forces arnt mustered. Our people will not allow foregin power to rule thier country. We are bankrupt at this time because we spent it all on the development and building of our UF multi-purpose jet.
These are the conditions of the country and military , assume what conditions are met and what arent.


You expect us to believe a nation without leaders manages to invade and occupy another nation? Who gave the order for invasion?

Your lies and treachery are becoming laughable.

OOC: I would oocly hate to ruin your nation, but InCharacter I hae absolutely no reservations about exterminating your people. I will. I would advise, OOCly that you appease me somehow.
Coidzor
23-02-2004, 08:50
OOC: OOOooo... Genocide... thats always fun... or would it just be Natiocide? is there even a word for that?
Elves Security Forces
23-02-2004, 08:57
IC:
During reelction our Generals take over the government.
The list of Generals our
Legoman Dead Leaves ( Step-Brother of former President CeleKorn Dead Leaves )
Jumangred Hammerfalls ( running for president as we speak )
Hurion BloodFeather
Deadlight Firefly
Kistanbul Deathbrought
OCC: Interesting group of guys eh? :P
imported_ViZion
23-02-2004, 09:01
IC:
Seeing as how we our at a time of Reelction we have no government leaders. Our armed forces are on the way home in transports and the rest of the forces arnt mustered. Our people will not allow foregin power to rule thier country. We are bankrupt at this time because we spent it all on the development and building of our UF multi-purpose jet.
These are the conditions of the country and military , assume what conditions are met and what arent.


You expect us to believe a nation without leaders manages to invade and occupy another nation? Who gave the order for invasion?

Your lies and treachery are becoming laughable.

OOC: I would oocly hate to ruin your nation, but InCharacter I hae absolutely no reservations about exterminating your people. I will. I would advise, OOCly that you appease me somehow.

OOC: And I would OOCly advise you do not "exterminate" their people. Their military and what is left of their government is one thing, but we will not let anyone go around killing civilians. I am allied with DT and many others, but even if they all support you, and you "exterminate" (AKA genocide) their civilians, we will be forced to invade you and take out your government, and disarm your military. ViZion does not stand for any genocide - even within allied forces.
Dr_Twist
23-02-2004, 09:01
The Dr_Twist Government has called an Emergancy meeting into the clash of words Between Dr_Twist (allies included) and ESF.

OCC: Possible Invasion of ESF?
imported_ViZion
23-02-2004, 09:02
The Dr_Twist Government has called an Emergancy meeting into the clash of words Between Dr_Twist (allies included) and ESF. OOC: New post, or in here?
Dr_Twist
23-02-2004, 09:03
The Dr_Twist Government has called an Emergancy meeting into the clash of words Between Dr_Twist (allies included) and ESF. OOC: New post, or in here?

OCC: not yet....
Elves Security Forces
23-02-2004, 09:04
OCC: uall type to fast. I cant keep up with my slow 56k >_<.
imported_ViZion
23-02-2004, 09:08
OCC: uall type to fast. I cant keep up with my slow 56k >_<.
OOC: lol, get cable (not DSL... cable is much better then DSL... and if you get DSL, which is much better then dial-up, then gon't get Verizon!)
imported_ViZion
23-02-2004, 09:09
The Dr_Twist Government has called an Emergancy meeting into the clash of words Between Dr_Twist (allies included) and ESF. OOC: New post, or in here?

OCC: not yet....
OOC: alright
Elves Security Forces
23-02-2004, 09:11
OCC: Mayb we can do this over aim? Its loads faster than the forum anyways. :o
Dr_Twist
23-02-2004, 09:12
OCC: Mayb we can do this over aim? Its loads faster than the forum anyways. :o

don't have AIM, prefer forums.
Elves Security Forces
23-02-2004, 09:15
OCC: Fine, I would say msn but mine isnt working for some reason -_-.
imported_ViZion
23-02-2004, 09:20
OOC: Possible invasion meeting... Those who would fight AGAINST (not with) ESF, go here: http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=125893
imported_Pantera
23-02-2004, 11:32
As the fleet comes within range of the ESF homeland the first waves of aircraft lift off, the evening is lit by a ball of flame. The concussion is heard for miles around as the first wave of cruise missiles slams into the ESF defenses ashore.

The aircraft climb higher and higher, above the reach of AA guns. As the bombers strategically hit a number of known military installations, their fighter escorts lurk nearby, ready to engage any threat to the bomber squads. As the first wave drops their deadly payload another lifts off... and another, and another. With roughly a dozen carriers off shore, there are always at least three sorties in the air, with the remaining aircraft refuelling and rearming.

The first wave of transports breaks loose from the main fleet, slicing through the dark waters toward shore. The endless barrage of the great fleet covers their approach.

DRAG THE WATERS OF WAR!
Elves Security Forces
23-02-2004, 11:38
IC:
IGNORE missiles away. If your going to be ignorant and not read the threads and posts clearly , then I have all the right just to ignore this attack. Thank you for amusing me tonight. Good Bye.
imported_Pantera
23-02-2004, 11:40
IC:
IGNORE missiles away. If your going to be ignorant and not read the threads and posts clearly , then I have all the right just to ignore this attack. Thank you for amusing me tonight. Good Bye.

Fair enough, just let me say you are a coward OOCly as well as ICly. Everything I've done here has been utterly INCHARACTER. I haven't godmodded or cheated in any way. You chose to take land that wasn't yours, no? You chose to defy me, knowing the consequences.

Now, when your defeat is at hand you ignore me? That's crap man. You're afraid to lose InCharacter, so you resort to OOC means to beat me. That's unacceptable.

You ignore me now, and you can kiss any respect you may have had goodbye.
Elves Security Forces
23-02-2004, 11:47
IC:
You say you havnt godmodded or cheated? Mayb but mayb you have crossed international laws? Hrmm lets look at your recent actions shall we?
1) You continue to threaten me with war and genocide after a surrender.
2) After meetings of diplomacy to which this event wouldnt have happened , you decide to attack anyways.
3) You admit to trying commit genocide against a nation that has surrendered and was seeking diplomatic solutions.
How am I losing respect after these actions? If anyone should lose respect it should be you.
Thank you , come again when you can act abit more civilized.
imported_Pantera
23-02-2004, 11:52
Name one moment of me godmodding, cheating, or doing anything that I shouldn't be able to do.

I'll challenge you with this once more and ask if your ignore is going to stand. If so, I'll ignore you and request the other nations in this conflict ignore you as well for refusing to take damage and we'll end this little squabble.

Otherwise post damages and counterattack so we can get this on.
imported_Pantera
23-02-2004, 12:42
OOC: Damnit, I edited instead of replying and so lost my rebuff of your questions, however I think the picture has been made painfully clear. I have justified all of my actions, without godmodding, and so cannot beignored. Post damages or condemn yourself as a godmodder for ignoring my completely accetable IC attack.
23-02-2004, 12:59
The Federation of Warmongering Lunatics has an alliance with EFS. We demand to know why our ally is being attacked. If you do not come up with a very good reason, or cease your attack immediately, there will be... consequences....
OOC: True, the concequences will be harmless to you...
But that's a minor point, yes?
imported_Pantera
23-02-2004, 13:01
The Federation of Warmongering Lunatics has an alliance with EFS. We demand to know why our ally is being attacked. If you do not come up with a very good reason, or cease your attack immediately, there will be... [i]consequences[i]....
OOC: True, the concequences will be harmless to you...
But that's a minor point, yes?

Your allies attempted to invade a peaceful nation, and were in turn slapped to the ground, where they belong. They cower and quake even now. Do not enter into this fray, as it would only ensure your destruction alongside ESF.
Elves Security Forces
23-02-2004, 13:14
Prepare for the inevitable attack the RESF had all 100 UF-X3s , 75 X-2s, and 50 X-1s up in the air prepared to shoot down all enemy fighters and bombers. In the port was 50 submarines ,30 destroyers , 12 cruisers , and 8 battleships just waiting to open fire on the invading fleet.
Elves Security Forces
23-02-2004, 13:14
Prepare for the inevitable attack the RESF had all 100 UF-X3s , 75 X-2s, and 50 X-1s up in the air prepared to shoot down all enemy fighters and bombers. In the port was 50 submarines ,30 destroyers , 12 cruisers , and 8 battleships just waiting to open fire on the invading fleet.
23-02-2004, 13:15
The Federation does not appreciate threats... but if ESF attacked a peaceful nation, we will stand aside.
OOC: The name is descriptive... of course, it's more fun to win than to be crushed, but the Federation isn't particulary afraid of overwhelming force.
Dr_Twist
23-02-2004, 13:17
The Federation does not appreciate threats... but if ESF attacked a peaceful nation, we will stand aside.
OOC: The name is descriptive... of course, it's more fun to win than to be crushed, but the Federation isn't particulary afraid of overwhelming force.
Ok Step 1 he invaded an Innocent country in Violation of International Law.

But we are completely discussed with Pantera actions in this Thread and many others.
imported_Pantera
23-02-2004, 13:31
Prepare for the inevitable attack the RESF had all 100 UF-X3s , 75 X-2s, and 50 X-1s up in the air prepared to shoot down all enemy fighters and bombers. In the port was 50 submarines ,30 destroyers , 12 cruisers , and 8 battleships just waiting to open fire on the invading fleet.

OOC: As your fleet simply sat in the port as my own, much stronger fleet sailed up to within firing distance, I'll assume they're sitting ducks. My first attack post covered my approach, so now they're in range, if there's a problem I can edit, but there shouldn't be as I made pretty clear that I was no within range.

IC:

High above ESF a mighty squadron of bombers screams through the air. They take careful aim before releasing their devastating payload into the midst of the ships packed into the ESF port. Another wing of bombers and their escorts move into positon and repeats this action.

As the ESF planes move to intercept yet another group of fighters lifts off from the Panteran fleet and sweep to meet the threat to the bombers. The stout bomber escort also drops out of formation and moves to engage the enemy. These two groups of fighters close quickly and soon open fire on the encroaching ESF planes. With terrifying force the planes rip into their enemies. One Reaver aircraft explodes into a swirling ball of orange flame before the air erupts in other exlosions.

Offshore, the fleet ceases its firing for a moment and take careful aim on the ESF port containing their fleet. Simulteaneously every ship in the Panteran fleet, some eighty mighty ships, fire their first barrage. Before the first has struck a second has been fired, and another, repeatedly.

The port erupts in gouts of flame and smoke, the concussion sending waves crashing.

The commander of the Panteran fleet smiles, requesting a damage report.

Damages taken: Roughly sixteen aircraft destroyed, a score more damaged.
Dr_Twist
23-02-2004, 13:36
After a Long Government meeting into the Night with Government Official’s Dr_Twist Armed Forces Officials and the Tsar himself, it has been determined that it is no longer in any way in the nations of Allies Interest to pursue a case with Elves Security Forces. But we do warn him and hope he learns from this case.
imported_Pantera
23-02-2004, 13:38
After a Long Government meeting into the Night with Government Official’s Dr_Twist Armed Forces Officials and the Tsar himself, it has been determined that it is no longer in any way in the nations of Allies Interest to pursue a case with Elves Security Forces. But we do warn him and hope he learns from this case.

Though we will miss the support of your mighty troops, we understand your resons for remaining aloof. Trust that these fools will be held accountable for their actions.
Elves Security Forces
23-02-2004, 19:58
At this time I no longer find this to be either ammusing or slightly entertianing. Henceforth I will not be on the forums, so bomb the imganary space all you freaking want.
Dundaine
23-02-2004, 20:56
This current travisty has rocked the Dundaine Capitol and the Dictator as well. His noble Ally has fail to comply with the terms so respectfully given. The Dictators scribe prepared a document to try and solve this before more lives are lost.


ESF Surrender notice:


The ESF will cease all fire against the forces of Pantera and Dr._Twist. They will do the same. The ESF will be pay 5 trillion dollars to The Texas Government. No leader shall be surrendered. And NO money will be payed to Dr_Twist and Pantera due to the fact that this defense of Texas was entirly vouluntery


The Armed Republic of Dundiane also regetably notifys the ESF government which is a dear ally of ours that failure to comply with these terms will result in the Immediate Invasion of ESF by Dundainian Military Forces
Elves Security Forces
24-02-2004, 02:40
IC:
We shall abide with dundaines terms except since we dont have that amount of money I will pay 5 trillion instead, leaving my nation with a sum of 1 billion dollars left in the treasury. We hope the nations accept this before anything more drastic happens.
imported_Pantera
24-02-2004, 03:09
imported_Pantera
24-02-2004, 03:34
OOC: Okay, as of now you are ignored. I'm sure you'll ask why so I'll go ahead and explain now.

1} After unlawfully invading Texas, I step in and show you the error of your ways. You withdraw, all the while bitching OOC that I'm doing something wrong.
2} You threaten to ignore me for making legitimate INCHARACTER posts, all of which were perfectly acceptable by 99% of NS roleplayers.
3} As soon as it looked like you would get a bit of help with your impending doom, you decide to try and pull it out InCharacter, refusing my terms yet again and all but taunting us. Bad form, but I'll play along.
4}After showing these assholes meant little to Pantera, I proceed with my invasion, however you once again claim to wash your hands of the matter and leave the forums.
5} Dundaines try for peace at the end was a noble gesture, but as you all would know unacceptable due to the gravity of the situation, you accept these terms, thinking that you will get off easily.
6} After two different Ignores and your subsequent return, I've decided that the chance for quality roleplaying with your nation has suddenly vanished. I won't shirk the blame for this, as I may have come off a little harsh, but that's what we're here to do, no? My role as a vicious, bloodthirsty viking dictator has been a blast. I like to rant and rave about blood and fire, but that's all IC. Instead of understanding that and sticking to your own role, even it meant defeat, you decided to 'ignore' me instead of beating me at my own game. Bad form.

Now, I understand your reluctance to lose, but as I promised OOCly in the original thread I was not going to just annihilate you. I wanted a good war RP. Instead, what I got was a wasted effort.

Afraid to take losses, you began blubbering about me cheating or godmodding, which I challenged you to point out once instance of, but yet again you refuse. Instead of sticking to your ignore you whine until Credonia and a few others begin clamoring at me for mercy, when all of a sudden you're more than willing to continue. This is cheesy roleplaying.

It's just a game man. Don't be afraid of defeat. We all taste it occasionally. Sometimes it can be a blast but I guess we'll never know because we've all been robbed of the chance for a fantastic RP.

Sucks, but that's life in NS, eh?

This Roleplay has been DESTORIED by Pantera....

And he doesn't even care.
Coidzor
24-02-2004, 03:52
OOC: actually I'd say thats all been justified... granted I'm not too familiar with the tech level issues, but everything else doth seem to balance out...

and of course, this thing raised an interesting question... is it genocide when its against an entire country and not against an entire race... and I have been answered... thank you for causing me to learn something this day
Dundaine
24-02-2004, 04:20
this shit had some probibility to be a fucking kick ass RP but some shit went the wrong way and it got fucked up taht happens. Pantera Buy weapons from me!! lol
Dr_Twist
24-02-2004, 04:31
this shit had some probibility to be a f--- kick ass RP but some shit went the wrong way and it got f--- up taht happens. Pantera Buy weapons from me!! lol

yes i know i was doing this so we could do a decent role play but it got out of hand and nation / nations have been punished for there actions.

We are still concered over ESF.