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Kerguelen, Amsterdam, St Paul, and Crozet Islands in the Indian Ocean have been taken over by a landing party of 300 Marines and 15 RAAVs. Kerguelen will be converted into a small naval base, and the rest will be used primarily for off-shore fishing.
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/maps/fs-map.gif

Also the Unihabited Bouvet Island was seized by 30 Marines would hoisted the Romanian flag above Olav Point.

A Marine Division of about 15,000 men with armor support also took over the small islands in the Comoros chain, It's 600,000 residents quickly submitted to Romanian control.
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/maps/cn-map.gif

::Independent States Allied Forces -- Defense Branch::

~Origin of transmission: Unable to be discerned (24 mirror sattelites).~

To: Free Rumania
From: ISIA (Independent States Intelligence Agency)

My, such a brazen act of war! While we do not control these islands, we do NOT approve of such acts of near-terrorism! To attack the citizens of an archepelago with 600,000 residents, only to further a military campaign! You will make many enemies, and ISAF will be the first in line to defeat you.

Background:
Unstable Comoros has endured 19 coups or attempted coups since gaining independence from France in 1975. In 1997, the islands of Anjouan and Moheli declared their independence from Comoros. In 1999, military chief Col. AZALI seized power. He pledged to resolve the secessionist crisis through a confederal arrangement named the 2000 Fomboni Accord. In December 2001, voters approved a new constitution and presidential elections took place in the spring of 2002. Each island in the archipelago elected its own president and a new union president was sworn in on May 26, 2002.
I'm bringing them order.

From the way you worded it, you sound like you're blitzkrieging them. I still do not agree, they must work their own problems out. Building a military base and rushing marines in isn't going to stabilize things.

The People's Republic of Mosartap, suggest that if your intentions are to give them order why not use an international task force to provide order and profits to this war torn country. Use the profits from the uninhabited country toward better enriching the lives of The population of these Islands.

If you really want to give them order, Then Mosartap will supply support only under the condition that these islands are only used military in a time of great need not simple conquests...

I don't think there's anywhere but up to go for this place.

mmm islands ay

Al Anbar is outraged! You are attacking us for "bringing order and security" to Kuwait, yet when you do it to these islands, it is not considered against international law? We demand swift action to Free Rumania for their hypocrisy.

Al Anbar is outraged! You are attacking us for "bringing order and security" to Kuwait, yet when you do it to these islands, it is not considered against international law? We demand swift action to Free Rumania for their hypocrisy.

Touch him and you wont have a nation to call home anymore.

Background:
Unstable Comoros has endured 19 coups or attempted coups since gaining independence from France in 1975. In 1997, the islands of Anjouan and Moheli declared their independence from Comoros. In 1999, military chief Col. AZALI seized power. He pledged to resolve the secessionist crisis through a confederal arrangement named the 2000 Fomboni Accord. In December 2001, voters approved a new constitution and presidential elections took place in the spring of 2002. Each island in the archipelago elected its own president and a new union president was sworn in on May 26, 2002.
I'm bringing them order.
This is a naked act of aggression and it will not stand.
I call for the establishment of an international force to be deployed to the islands to see that their soverignty is highly respected.
The bringing of order cannot be used to legitimize the invasion and annexation of other nations.

My nation is not as big as Dr. Twists but the people of UncleBob are not afraid to stand against any nation, in our determination to oppose naked aggression.

My nation is not as big as Dr. Twists but the people of UncleBob are not afraid to stand against any nation, in our determination to oppose naked aggression.

I have never lost a war, A few days ago i Organised a Moblization of over 100 Million Troops in europe for an exercise.... can you even come close to matching that if you needed to?

Al Anbar is outraged! You are attacking us for "bringing order and security" to Kuwait, yet when you do it to these islands, it is not considered against international law? We demand swift action to Free Rumania for their hypocrisy.
Lol dude I didn't care that you invaded Kuwait, I'm all for expansionism. I was just helping my ally, western asia.

My nation is not as big as Dr. Twists but the people of UncleBob are not afraid to stand against any nation, in our determination to oppose naked aggression.

I have never lost a war, A few days ago i Organised a Moblization of over 100 Million Troops in europe for an exercise.... can you even come close to matching that if you needed to?


Getting 100 million Europeans to excercise? I'm sorry, but the Confederacy of Halo Playing Nations fails to see how this is a form of a military threat.

How about I turn those Islands into floating fortresses for ya, FR?

My nation is not as big as Dr. Twists but the people of UncleBob are not afraid to stand against any nation, in our determination to oppose naked aggression.

I have never lost a war, A few days ago i Organised a Moblization of over 100 Million Troops in europe for an exercise.... can you even come close to matching that if you needed to?
What is the percentage of population you guys use in this RP?
I have never fought a war.

My nation is not as big as Dr. Twists but the people of UncleBob are not afraid to stand against any nation, in our determination to oppose naked aggression.

I have never lost a war, A few days ago i Organised a Moblization of over 100 Million Troops in europe for an exercise.... can you even come close to matching that if you needed to?


Getting 100 million Europeans to excercise? I'm sorry, but the Confederacy of Halo Playing Nations fails to see how this is a form of a military threat.

The threat simply says i have a lot of allies with a lot of power capible of taking on any alliance and any nation, I am the Chairman of 2 Alliances 1 of them with over 200 members i have strong ties with AMF and Russian Forces, and i was even able to get them both to be part of the exercise and work together.

My nation is not as big as Dr. Twists but the people of UncleBob are not afraid to stand against any nation, in our determination to oppose naked aggression.

I have never lost a war, A few days ago i Organised a Moblization of over 100 Million Troops in europe for an exercise.... can you even come close to matching that if you needed to?
What is the percentage of population you guys use in this RP?
I have never fought a war.
This is a good place to start if you are looking for a toe-tag.

Al Anbar is outraged! You are attacking us for "bringing order and security" to Kuwait, yet when you do it to these islands, it is not considered against international law? We demand swift action to Free Rumania for their hypocrisy.
Lol dude I didn't care that you invaded Kuwait, I'm all for expansionism. I was just helping my ally, western asia.

We demand the withdrawal of 'Free Rumania' either from the islands or from the aggressor's alliance.

Al Anbar is outraged! You are attacking us for "bringing order and security" to Kuwait, yet when you do it to these islands, it is not considered against international law? We demand swift action to Free Rumania for their hypocrisy.
Lol dude I didn't care that you invaded Kuwait, I'm all for expansionism. I was just helping my ally, western asia.

We demand the withdrawal of 'Free Rumania' either from the islands or from the aggressor's alliance.

Or you could face nations that would crush you and any alliance you bring to any war?

Al Anbar is outraged! You are attacking us for "bringing order and security" to Kuwait, yet when you do it to these islands, it is not considered against international law? We demand swift action to Free Rumania for their hypocrisy.
Lol dude I didn't care that you invaded Kuwait, I'm all for expansionism. I was just helping my ally, western asia.

We demand the withdrawal of 'Free Rumania' either from the islands or from the aggressor's alliance.
We demand Al Anbar stop threatening allies or it might notice that our IFVs could annihalate its entire tank force.

Al Anbar is outraged! You are attacking us for "bringing order and security" to Kuwait, yet when you do it to these islands, it is not considered against international law? We demand swift action to Free Rumania for their hypocrisy.
Lol dude I didn't care that you invaded Kuwait, I'm all for expansionism. I was just helping my ally, western asia.

We demand the withdrawal of 'Free Rumania' either from the islands or from the aggressor's alliance.
Your in no position to demand anything.

Unclebob is deploying 5 aircraft carriers to the indian ocean.
With an escort of 10 battleships, 10 cruisers, 10 destroyer, and 5 nuclear powered stealth submarines.
A electronic suveillance plane is being deployed to the area to monitor FR activity.
More surveillance planes will be deployed in the coming days.

The Dr_Twist Pacific Fleet is has been ordered to the Islands.

Any planes crossing into Free Rumania's airspace over and around the islands unauthorized will be warned and then shot down.

Any planes crossing into Free Rumania's airspace over and around the islands unauthorized will be warned and then shot down.
You cannot shoot down planes that in international air space.
You control the islands not the ocean around them.

Unclebob is deploying 5 aircraft carriers to the indian ocean.
With an escort of 10 battleships, 10 cruisers, 10 destroyer, and 5 nuclear powered stealth submarines.
A electronic suveillance plane is being deployed to the area to monitor FR activity.
More surveillance planes will be deployed in the coming days.
Well our fleet is busy elsewhere. Apart from 30 Oscar 3 SSNs. Which are moving within 500km of the "fleet".

Actually, in RL nations can only claim up to 10 miles of offshore ocean terriotory.

Any planes crossing into Free Rumania's airspace over and around the islands unauthorized will be warned and then shot down.
You cannot shoot down planes that in international air space.
You control the islands not the ocean around them.

International Law states that he owns 5 Miles of Water around those Islands and the Air around those islands including that water is his airspace, which he technically owns.

Any planes crossing into Free Rumania's airspace over and around the islands unauthorized will be warned and then shot down.
You cannot shoot down planes that in international air space.
You control the islands not the ocean around them.
Watch me.

MiG-37 interceptors will use bases on the islands to blow these planes up, with FR's permission.

Unclebob is deploying 5 aircraft carriers to the indian ocean.
With an escort of 10 battleships, 10 cruisers, 10 destroyer, and 5 nuclear powered stealth submarines.
A electronic suveillance plane is being deployed to the area to monitor FR activity.
More surveillance planes will be deployed in the coming days.
Well our fleet is busy elsewhere. Apart from 30 Oscar 3 SSNs. Which are moving within 500km of the "fleet".

There will be consequences if your subs attack my fleet in international waters. My fleet is there to moniter FR activities. The carriers are the ones from which the surveillance planes and their escorts are being launched and retrieved from.

The Dr_Twist Government has released a press statment saying, Any nation that attacks FR would become an act of war.

by around the islands I mean 10 miles, which is the boundary for territorial/international waters.

1 CBG is bieng sent to the islands from our territory in Tanzania with decks full of Su-30MKR's and Su-34KR's
http://homepage.tinet.ie/~steven/images/su33-6.jpg

Any planes crossing into Free Rumania's airspace over and around the islands unauthorized will be warned and then shot down.
You cannot shoot down planes that in international air space.
You control the islands not the ocean around them.

International Law states that he owns 5 Miles of Water around those Islands and the Air around those islands including that water is his airspace, which he technically owns.
The maximum is ten miles.

The Pacific Fleet will be in the Area shortly, i would like to Warn our good friend that this fleet is more then 4 times bigger the his fleet.

by around the islands I mean 10 miles, which is the boundary for territorial/international waters.

1 CBG is bieng sent to the islands from our territory in Tanzania with decks full of Su-30MKR's and Su-34KR's
http://homepage.tinet.ie/~steven/images/su33-6.jpg
Unclebob aircraft will not cross pass this 10 miles point.
Our electronic surviellance systems are such that we can what is happening on the islands with out having to cross into their airspace.
The planes also carry the best optics available (produced by Celestron and Mead corporations which are makers of the world's best astronomical telescopes).

We do not fear any 'consequences' that Bob throws our way.

UncleBob, no matter what you do, you wont win, we suggest to back down and try somthing else, becaues you are playing with the big boys now, that have the ability to hand you your ass on a plate.

EDIT: Double post

Al Anbar is outraged! You are attacking us for "bringing order and security" to Kuwait, yet when you do it to these islands, it is not considered against international law? We demand swift action to Free Rumania for their hypocrisy.
Lol dude I didn't care that you invaded Kuwait, I'm all for expansionism. I was just helping my ally, western asia.

Western Asia needs help? He is my ally too! I can have two Frontal Aviation squadrons equipped with Super Gripens anywhere in the world (depending on SAM and AA conditions) within a day.

As it seems that you (Free Rumania) are occupying these islands for what appears to be a good cause, we can send an FA Su-22 squadron out to help you, as well as some Tarantul patrol boats. If you need help setting up civillian infrastructure, we would be happy to oblige. Our education system is one of the best.

We ask to be able to send a group of inspectors to assess the humanitarian conditions on the islands.

OOC: I will be back in a few. Have to run down to the store to grab something.

The Dr_Twist Goverment Requests to Mobilze 200,000 Troops to the Island, these are Rapid deployment troops and can be there in no time at all.

OOC: I will be back in a few. Have to run down to the store to grab something.

intresting way to run out of a thread....

Al Anbar is outraged! You are attacking us for "bringing order and security" to Kuwait, yet when you do it to these islands, it is not considered against international law? We demand swift action to Free Rumania for their hypocrisy.
Lol dude I didn't care that you invaded Kuwait, I'm all for expansionism. I was just helping my ally, western asia.

Western Asia needs help? He is my ally too! I can have two Frontal Aviation squadrons equipped with Super Gripens anywhere in the world (depending on SAM and AA conditions) within a day.

As it seems that you (Free Rumania) are occupying these islands for what appears to be a good cause, we can send an FA Su-22 squadron out to help you, as well as some Tarantul patrol boats. If you need help setting up civillian infrastructure, we would be happy to oblige. Our education system is one of the best.

We ask to be able to send a group of inspectors to assess the humanitarian conditions on the islands.
Thanks for the help LRR. (My education system is pretty good also, free college for all!)

To Twist: We request that you reduce the # of troops to 100,000. These Islands are pretty small and 200,000 troops would be a strain on the envioronment.

Al Anbar is outraged! You are attacking us for "bringing order and security" to Kuwait, yet when you do it to these islands, it is not considered against international law? We demand swift action to Free Rumania for their hypocrisy.
Lol dude I didn't care that you invaded Kuwait, I'm all for expansionism. I was just helping my ally, western asia.

Western Asia needs help? He is my ally too! I can have two Frontal Aviation squadrons equipped with Super Gripens anywhere in the world (depending on SAM and AA conditions) within a day.

As it seems that you (Free Rumania) are occupying these islands for what appears to be a good cause, we can send an FA Su-22 squadron out to help you, as well as some Tarantul patrol boats. If you need help setting up civillian infrastructure, we would be happy to oblige. Our education system is one of the best.

We ask to be able to send a group of inspectors to assess the humanitarian conditions on the islands.
Thanks for the help LRR. (My education system is pretty good also, free college for all!)

To Twist: We request that you reduce the # of troops to 100,000. These Islands are pretty small and 200,000 troops would be a strain on the envioronment.

FREE COLLEGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WOOT WOOT WOOT WOOT WOOT!!!!!!!!!!!!

But back to non-crazyness, the squadron of Su-22s should be arriving soon.

Thanks for the help LRR. (My education system is pretty good also, free college for all!)

To Twist: We request that you reduce the # of troops to 100,000. These Islands are pretty small and 200,000 troops would be a strain on the envioronment.

How big are these Islands?

Have u got a Airport Big Enough for AN-225 or C5 Galexy Cargo planes? AN225 Prefered.

OOC: I am back. Went and got a six pack.

Those islands are very tiny in real life and most of them are claimed by France and Britain in RL.
You won't be able to fit 100,000 troops on them.
Wouldn't be enough room even for the size navy I posted.

I know that Crozet Island is French territory.

Thanks for the help LRR. (My education system is pretty good also, free college for all!)

To Twist: We request that you reduce the # of troops to 100,000. These Islands are pretty small and 200,000 troops would be a strain on the envioronment.

How big are these Islands?

Have u got a Airport Big Enough for AN-225 or C5 Galexy Cargo planes? AN225 Prefered.
They wouldn't be big enough for that unless you are talking about only one at time landing, offloading and then taking off to make room for the next one.
You might be able to fit 3 to 5 C5s on a runway on the biggest of the islands.

omg

WE ARE TALKING ABOUT COMOROS!

those islands range from 30 miles to 15 miles. I constructed a airstrip big enough for AN-225's and C-5's.

Thanks for the help LRR. (My education system is pretty good also, free college for all!)

To Twist: We request that you reduce the # of troops to 100,000. These Islands are pretty small and 200,000 troops would be a strain on the envioronment.

How big are these Islands?

Have u got a Airport Big Enough for AN-225 or C5 Galexy Cargo planes? AN225 Prefered.
They wouldn't be big enough for that unless you are talking about only one at time landing, offloading and then taking off to make room for the next one.

Are they really that small?

omg

WE ARE TALKING ABOUT COMOROS!

those islands range from 30 miles to 15 miles. I constructed a airstrip big enough for AN-225's and C-5's.

The Commorros (this is the correct spelling) are an independent nation in RL. And they don't own some of the islands you are claiming in this post.

I have a Fleet of 600 AN-225 and 400 C5 Galaxy Aircraft, i need to land these somwhere and unload.....

I am sorry. You had the right spelling. I am checking the island specs now.

Fing double post.

You can land them on Moroni but not that many.

You can land them on Moroni but not that many.

I don't want to bring all 1,000 Aircraft in, i have that many so i can Moblize a Varst army in a small amount of time, I want to bring in say about 100 would be enough for Troops and Vehicals.

Due to widespread instability and the collapse of the local government,
Unclebob will not intervene against efforts to bring humane stability to the islands.
But Unclebob will continue to monitor situation as we control over the islands of:
Deigo Garcia, Agalega Islands, Tromelin, Rodrigues, Mauritius, Reunion, Laccadive, all of which are in the east indian ocean.
I also hold Socotra off the coast of Yemen.
And the Cocos Islands and Christmas Islands in the eastern I.O.
Did I mention St. Helena, Ascension, Gough and Tristan De Cunha and South Georgia and the sandwich islands in the Atlantic Ocean?

You can land them on Moroni but not that many.

I don't want to bring all 1,000 Aircraft in, i have that many so i can Moblize a Varst army in a small amount of time, I want to bring in say about 100 would be enough for Troops and Vehicals.
The island would be barely big enough for that many.
How much land do you need for 100 planes?

Typical Rumanian aggression against poor defenseless people.

OOC: Do I sense a war coming on?

IC: I light of recent events, ISAF has had no other choice but to mobilize military units, in an effort to evict the Free Rumanian forces. The forces consist of the following:

1x "Lynx" Class Trimaran Carrier
3x "Cygnus" Class Strike Carriers
5x "Relentless" Class Destroyers
7x "Silverfish" Class Multirole Frigates
2x "Odyssey" Class Missile Submarines
5x "Pirhana" Class Light Attack Submarines

Ground Forces consist of:

65x R503 Light Tanks
25x R253 APCs
2x R908 "Brain Bucket" Tactical Command Vehicles
35x "Horizon" Self-Propelled Anti-Aircraft Vehicles
75x "IBEX II" All Terrian Assault Vehicles
5x R654 Heavy Tanks

50,000 Footsoldiers, 35,000 of which have CEBA Power Armor

Air Forces:

200x Valefor 29A Air Superiority Fighters
350x "Tempest" D-15 Dropship
35x R62 "Valkyr" Havy Bombers
4x EC33 AWACS Planes
400x R-Me262s

I'm in this for the long haul...

http://www.transpolair.com/sciences/karupelv/lemming.jpg


250 of the brand new TR-4000 series tanks are bieng deployed to the islands, along with:

Air Force:
200 MiG-45's
40 FR-38's
60 FR-40's
40 FBR-124's
40 Su-34's
4 KC-767's
4 OREL AWACS

Army:
40,000 troops
500 TR-2000A5's
150 TDR-3000A2'
500 Badger MICV's
800 Wolverine AUCV's
600 Wolverine APC's
50 Wolverine AT's
500 artillery pieces
200 TOS-1's
80 HIMARS
50 Smerch MLRS
120 Crusader Platforms
75 Wolverine ADATS
120 Mi-28NR's
80 AH-68'S
100 Mi-40's

Marine forces already there:
15,000 troops
20 EA-4W's
40 F/A 18C's
50 F-35's
40 AH-1W's
10 KC-767'S
30 AH-11's
50 CH-53E's
500 Leopard 2S's
150 T-90M's
50 HIMARS
120 RAAV's
50 Wolverine APC's
50 Wolverines's
15 Wolverine ADATS

40 BR-7 "Gremlin" Anti-Shipping bombers are bieng sent to the islands.

All troops are now preparing defensive positions, bunkers, beach obstacles, and Anti-Air defenses.

Naval:
29 Type 555 SSN's
30 Type 490 SSK's
15 Type 621 SSGN's

All subs carry the "Hunter" long range multi-stage torpedo.

As the fleet comes within 500km of the subs, buttons are pressed, and a total of 720 Yakhont-4 SSMs are launched at the meddling ISAF fleet. 24 from each of the 30 SSNs. They fly at low altitiude at mach 1.5 until the final stage, where they become mach 2.5 sea skimmers. They deliever a 350kg warhead. They are armored against 20mm CIWS systems. They make S shaped turns to avoid CIWS fire for good measre.

20 BAL-E Anti-Shipping systems are bieng set up on each island. These launchers can fire 8 SS-N-25 missiles in 10 minutes then reload quickly and do it again.

BTW here's another map
http://www.travel-images.com/comoros-map.jpg

I have mayotte too btw.

OOC:Damn you, I was about to go for the Comorros Islands :x
Ah well, I'll find somewhere else to vent my imperialist urges.

sorry, UE! :lol:

But someone hasn't looked at our storefront:

The anti-ship missiles fired by dark terror are roughly 50 km away when the Odyssey submarines surface. Each submarine uses its laser-based anti-missile system to oblitherate the missiles, only 40 get through (if thats godmoddy number, let me know, ill change it). 3 Silverfish, 2 Relenlesses go down, 45% casualty rate. Rescue operations begin immediately. Another Cygnus is badly damaged (45% hull integrity). The Pirhanas begin to hunt the subs resposible. The Air wings of the two undamaged Cygnuses and the Lynx take to the air and begin their sub hunt. In the meantime, the remainder of the fleet retreats to a distance of 100 km offshore.

To prevent any uprisings supported by foreign agressors Martial law has been declared on the islands. Also in other Romanian areas police and military forces have been alerted to possible threats and are on a high state of alert.

The 2nd MEF is immediately diverted from Malden to the Comoros. The ships make for the islands at flank speed.

However, arriving over the islands, a squadron of 15 Su-22s prepares to land.

"Comoros air control, this is the 47th tactical bombing squadron, LRR frontal aviation. We request permission to land, over."

"This is Comoros air control, nice to see you guys, permission granted, over."

Hey LLR can I join RGGA(again), I'd post on that page but with the forum acting screwy I can never tell if I'll be successful or not.

Due to widespread instability and the collapse of the local government,
Unclebob will not intervene against efforts to bring humane stability to the islands.
But Unclebob will continue to monitor situation as we control over the islands of:
Deigo Garcia, Agalega Islands, Tromelin, Rodrigues, Mauritius, Reunion, Laccadive, all of which are in the east indian ocean.
I also hold Socotra off the coast of Yemen.
And the Cocos Islands and Christmas Islands in the eastern I.O.
Did I mention St. Helena, Ascension, Gough and Tristan De Cunha and South Georgia and the sandwich islands in the Atlantic Ocean?



Actually I own Diego Garcia and I own South Georgia Island.

"Roger that. Cleared to land."

One by one, the Sukhois land on the airstrip. The pilots, used to operating from fields and roads, are wary of the airport. (The official opinion of large paved airbases in LRR is that the are missile targets).

They taxi over to empty spaces beside the runway, and shut down their engines. The pilots hop out, one by one, and head towards the airport terminal.

Meanwhile, the 2nd MEF is met at sea by a group of 20 Heron amphibious transports. This large contingent of Herons takes on 1,200 troops (each heron carries 60). Along with the group of herons, two fast, delta-winged aircraft tag along, making lazy circles in the sky as they wait for the transports, with MiG-29SMTs at their wingtips. After loading up, the Herons take off and head towards Comoros from the middle atlantic. (Well out in international waters, of course.) Also, an Ocean class helicopter carrier and a group of five Krivak and one Sovremenny class destroyer turn towards the Comoros from their path towards Malden. The helicopter carrier embarks a wing of Mi-28s.

I will allow anyone supporting FR to use Diego Garcia as a base.

I will allow anyone supporting FR to use Diego Garcia as a base.

Could I use it as a base for three Cormorant patrol aircraft, as well as the 2nd Marine Expeditionary Force?

I will allow anyone supporting FR to use Diego Garcia as a base.

Could I use it as a base for three Cormorant patrol aircraft, as well as the 2nd Marine Expeditionary Force?



You may. I have room for a lot of aircraft because I use it as a bomber base.

OOC-
Laser CIWS systems are appealing, but explain how youd get enough power to em on a submarine for them to repeatedly fire?

ISAF, I'm just curious but where are your ground forces, floating in the water? You listed no Amphibious landing ships.

My capital was on Diego Garcia.

Just a picky point:

Dark Terror launches a swarm of AS missiles that will take somewhere between 10-15 minutes to arrive on target. In that very brief period of time, a bunch of submerged have the time to recognize the threat, surface, unmask their extremely efficient laser anti-missile defenses, and so on. In reality, how long do you think it would take after such a launch for a captain to even give the order to surface, let alone to be able to surface and do anything meaningful? Okay, it gets better. I just reread ISAF's post. His subs surface when the missiles are about 60 seconds from impact. Again, unmasking his batteries, acquiring targets, etc. etc. etc.

I see the entire defense as improbable. Sorry, that's my impartial two cents worth. Go back to crowding an incredibly small area of ocean with more warships than currently exist in the real world. I should be a freaking umpire.

I might be a little late, but considering Free Rumania and Powerfularmies have had nothing but friendly relations I see no point in doing anything but congradulating Free Rumania on their new territory.

we will pursue no military action in this campaign but seriousely doubt the ability of countries to kick Free RUmania out with their air power.

ooc: I haven't read all five pages, so I might have missed something.

boy this thing tanked...