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Declaration of War on Dimmimar

Shinoxia
21-02-2004, 00:23
OOC: As some of you know, the leadership of Dimmimar has slaughtered millions of their own citizens and we believe he must stop. Shinoxia and other SLOA nations will not occupy Dimmimar but leave once the regime is ousted.

General Shackleton paced back in forth in his office, trying to hit his lines properly.

"We, the free nations of Antarctica," he thought to himself and decided not to use that line.

The time for war had come.

A region dedicated to the destruction of Antarctica had made moves hinting at incoming attack. After the leader of Dimmimar began slaughtering millions of his own citizens, the decision for war had been agreed on.

His broadcast to Shinoxia, and to the rest of the Antarctic nations would occur right from his office, because of short notice.

He had about 5 minutes to prepare.

Shackleton began to skim over his speech. He wanted it to be short and to the point, not one of the long speeches that many expected.

The General took great pride in having written most of the speech on his own, much to the shock of his aides.

The time had come.

A camera crew walked into his office. There would be no makeup, nothing, just a simple declaration of war.

The light on the camera flashed green and General Shackleton stepped up to the plate.

"Greetings to Shinoxians and Antarcticans alike." The General's voice seemed both delicate and powerful at the same time.

"I'm sure you all know of the monarch of Dimmimar's widespread murders of his own citizens," A familiar topic in Antarctica "And it has came to the point to where it can no longer be tolerated, this dictator must be stopped!"

He paused and contiued.

"I know this declaration of war has came fast, but we have known for quite some time that this war is inevitable. I have come to ask the Antarctic nations to help Shinoxia in bringing down this ruthless dictator, so that all in Dimmimar may at last return to their normal lives."

"There are other nations in this region that may wish to aid Dimmimar, but through perservance and steadfast determination we will bring this dictator down!"

He didn't want to go any further and ended his speech.

"This war will claim the lives of brave Shinoxian and Antarctic soldiers but we must think of the good that we will bring the world by putting an end to this evil regime. I thank you and good night, God Bless."
Shinoxia
21-02-2004, 00:29
OOC: As a result of the coming war, I am deploying two Legions (A total of 1 million men) to assault the nation of Dimmimar with. A Legion in the Afrika Korps in Shin-Africa is also being mobilized. I'll post more on my battle tactics after Dimmimar responds.

Revolutionary Army of Shinoxia

The Revolutionary Army of Shinoxia is, like many other Antarctica armies, built around speed and mobility. The RAS is designed to overwhelm an opponent with awesome technology and tactics. With the use of pods, the RAS can eliminate a target and disappear before any type of resistance is mounted. However, the costs of maintaining the equipment in the RAS is 90 billion per Legion! The RAS currently contains 2 million men, 2 Armies, 4 Legions.

1 Legion Contains

Main Battle Units
Main Battle Units do most of the fighting in wars and inflict the most damage. Upon arriving with their Legions the soldiers break into pods, or 150 men and then pods then form clusters with 3 pods, 450 men. The clusters are self-contained and operate on their own, achieving a unique objective. A cluster commander may place a cluster in an area and tell them to neutralize everything there. Clusters hardly know what other clusters are doing and work on their unique mission.

150,000 Antarctic Infantry (Used in Pod Warfare)
(Skill=Average-Veteran)
(Loyalty=Average)
(Morale=+1)
Calico and G-36 assault rifles
The main unit in the Revolutionary Army of Shinoxia. They are mainly composed of young soldiers with an average amount of training and experience. They tend to be more likely to flee if the battle turns in the opponent’s favor but when combined with good troops they are a force to be reckoned with.

150,000 Arctic Storm Troopers (Used in Pod Warfare)
(Skill=Veteran)
(Loyalty=Good)
(Morale=+2)
Calico assault rifles
Used in Pod Warfare to great effect. Inspired from the Storm Troopers of WWI these soldiers live up to their legacy. Under the cover of Penguins and Antarctic Infantry Storm Troopers charge a position mowing down enemies with their Calicos and grenades. Well adept for hand-to-hand fighting the Storm Troopers are generally the last thing an enemy sees.

150,000 Penguins (Used in Pod Warfare)
(Skill=Veteran)
(Loyalty=Strong)
(Morale=+3)
SAW light machine guns
The elite unit in Pods. Penguins normally provide cover for Infantry and Storm Troopers and do so with great effect. With their machine guns and assault rifles they inspire fear in enemy units and if needed can charge with devastating effect.

50,000 Arctic Partisans (Self-Contained/Deployed with Legion)
(Skill=Elite)
(Loyalty=Strong)
(Morale=+3)
Calico and G-36 assault rifles
Arctic Partisans, upon arriving on an enemy nation, set up communication with citizens who do not like they’re ruling regime and train them to fight. Partisans carry enough equipment to create a small army and can easily triple their numbers. They rarely fight but organize citizen militias to take arms against their oppressors.

Tanks
x1,250 Artic Wolf tanks
x1,250 Arctic Wolf II light tanks
x1,500 Arctic Tiger heavy tanks

Light Assault Vehicles, Artillery pieces, and transport vehicles
Direct Fire
x625 Arctic Fox LAVs
x625 Desert Fox LAVs
x625 Stormcrow AIFVs
x625 Jaguar 2 Tank Destroyers
x625 Bradely APCs
Support
x625 Humvees (TOW Missile Launcher Equipped)
x625 LAV-M (S) mortar systems
x625 Ontos II Support Systems
Indirect Fire
x625 M2001A1 artillery systems
x625 M270A1 rocket launchers
x625 Paladin heavy artillery systems
x5 Aluminum Lithium Hydride shells
Logistics and Recovery
x1,250 LAV-Logistics
x625 LAV-Ammo Carriers
x625 Hercules Recovery Vehicles
Bridge Layers and Mine clearers
x625 Wolverine AVLBs
x625 Grizzly Armored Breachers
Ambulances
x1,250 LAV-Ambulances
Command and Technological Support Vehicles
x625 M93A1 Fox NBC Recon Systems (Detects Chemical and Biological presence)
x313 LAV-Fire Direction Centers
x313 M4 Command & Control Vehicles
x313 Firefinder Radars
x313 LAV-MEWSS
Air Defense
x625 Avenger LAVs


Attack Helicopters
x625 AH-64A/D attack choppers
x625 Super Cobra choppers
x625 Longbow assault choppers
x625 AH-220 Sea Lions
x250 Chinook transport choppers
x150,000 Sulfuric Acid Mist containers
Iuthia
21-02-2004, 00:29
OOC: As some of you know, the leadership of Dimmimar has slaughtered millions of their own citizens and we believe he must stop. Shinoxia and other SLOA nations will not occupy Dimmimar but leave once the regime is ousted.

OOC: From what I've read the leadership has been ousted in the orginal thread where he killed millions of his own people...
21-02-2004, 00:32
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Central Facehuggeria
21-02-2004, 00:33
OOC: As some of you know, the leadership of Dimmimar has slaughtered millions of their own citizens and we believe he must stop. Shinoxia and other SLOA nations will not occupy Dimmimar but leave once the regime is ousted.

OOC: From what I've read the leadership has been ousted in the orginal thread where he killed millions of his own people...

OOC: Iuthia is correct. The muderous dictator, Dotage took his own life recently. We should know, we recieved some of his harem girls in exchange for increased humanitarian aid! :wink:

Shinoxia, you may want to upgrade your intelligence networks. :wink:
Shinoxia
21-02-2004, 00:35
OOC: Here are the naval assests going to Dimmimar, I'm about to post air assests in a minute.

Shinoxian Red Navy
The Shinoxian Red Navy is composed of 6 Fleets, 2 Armadas. The fleets contain large amounts of ships and work together to bring troops and equipment to enemy’s beaches. The Red Navy is quite large and is well commanded, however, the Navy has yet to be tested. The Navy uses Main Battle Groups of 12 ships, which delivers the main attack, and the Fast Attack Battle Group of 16 ships, which begins to harass the enemy before the Main Battle Group arrives.

Shinoxian 1st Armada

Shinoxian 3rd Fleet
Main Battle Group
x1 Nimitiz Class Carriers
x4 Oliver Hazard Perry Class Frigates
x4 Amundsen Class Destroyers
x2 Seahorse Class Attack Subs
x1 Norad Class Super Battleship

Fast Attack Battle Group
x3 S-1900 Missile Crafts
x4 Molbiya Class Missile Carriers
x5 Visby Class Corvettes
x2 Devil Ray Class Attack Subs
x2 Minesweepers

Shinoxian 7th Fleet
Main Battle Group
x1 Nimitiz Class Carrier
x4 Bradenburg Class Frigates
x4 Amundsen Class Destroyers
x2 Los Angeles Class Attack Subs
x1 Adelie Class Super Battleship

Fast Attack Battle Group
x3 Seashadow Class Stealth Assault Ships
x4 Molbiya Class Missile Carriers
x5 Visby Class Corvettes
x2 Los Angeles Class Attack Subs
x2 Minesweepers

Shinoxian 5th Fleet
Main Battle Group
x1 Nimitiz Class Carrier
x4 Bradenburg Class Frigates
x4 Arleigh Burke Class Destroyers
x2 Devil Ray Class Attack Subs
x1 Adelie Class Super Battleship
Fast Attack Battle Group
x3 Ticonderoga Class Cruisers
x4 Scorpion Class Missile Boats
x5 Phantom Class Attack Boats
x2 Seasquid Class Attack Subs
x2 Minesweepers

Air assets:

Shinoxian AirCore

The Shinoxian AirCore is one of the better air forces today. Equipped with the most modern planes and skilled pilots the SAC is a force to be reckoned with. The fighters are known for their skill in dogfight and fight extremely well in frozen skies. The 2nd Fleet contains, because of a super carrier, more planes, while the planes carried on other fleets are listed below.

Air Wing Alpha
x5 F-42 Raptor superiority fighters
x5 F-18 Hornet superiority fighters
x5 P-20 fighters
x15 MiG-29 fighters
x10 Arctic Subsider stealth bombers

Air Wing Beta
x5 F-42 Raptor superiority fighters
x5 F-18 Hornet superiority fighters
x5 P-19 fighters
x5 Su-35 fighters
x10 MiG-29 fighters
Shinoxia
21-02-2004, 00:38
Dangit! People need to tell me these things. Well...I have permission and from his posts he is planning to destroy the SLOA, hence the name of his region "SLOA haters". If the person, who shall remain nameless, asks me to call off the attack, I will, but until then I'll just keep RPing.

Facehuggeria, I guess your right man. :wink:
Shinoxia
21-02-2004, 00:56
bump
Shinoxia
21-02-2004, 01:23
up again, cmon guys this is open to all.
Dancing Moose
21-02-2004, 01:35
OOC: I am mobilizing a large naval force to back up Shinoxia's forces consisting of some carrier battle groups accompanied by the new and untested super hybrid carrier/battleships; the Ross class. These will be RPed leaving DM waters shortly.
Shinoxia
21-02-2004, 01:38
Dimmimar, do you have any maps of your region or nation?
21-02-2004, 01:48
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Iuthia
21-02-2004, 01:50
In all honesty I'm dealing with a dumb ass who thinks that a nuclear device is good for assinations... so my military is tied up.
Shinoxia
21-02-2004, 01:54
Sounds like fun Iuthia...waiting for Dimmimar to reply...I suppose I'll sing a song...Yankee Doodle Went to Town... :wink:
Hattia
21-02-2004, 01:56
Yeesh, you caught me at a bad time. My military is tied up also.

Hattia offers our moral support to our comrades in Shinoxia...
Universal Government
21-02-2004, 01:59
The Universal Government is prepared to offer in assistance to this war :

NAVAL


3000 Delta Class SSBN Sub's

1000 Typhoon Class SSBN Sub's

800 Kirov Battle Cruisers

500 Ohio Class SSBN Sub's

300 Nimitz and Enterprise Aircraft Carriers

1000 Battleships

400 Destroyers

700 Ticonderoga Cruisers




GROUND/ARMY


M109A Paladin Howitzer

Scud Launcher

AH-64 Apache Longbow


AIR

50 Avro Arrow

25 Mig 29

28 Mig 21

50 Mig 25

80 Mig 31

100 Mirage f1 fighters
21-02-2004, 02:02
The President of Benicius strongly urges Shinoxia to cease these unprovoked hostilities against Dimmimar who has made no aggressive movement.

If Shinoxia persists, the Empire shall seek international assistence to end this dastardly and unprovoked attack on Dimmimar.

Though bound by treaty with Shinoxia, the President may be forced to seek its revoking in the Benician Senate if Shinoxia does not cease its attack on an innocent nation. Diplomacy before war must always be sought.

(by the way..."SLOA Haters" is not an act of war, but merely that the regional members hate the SLOA. This is not just cause for invasion).
Shinoxia
21-02-2004, 02:31
OOC: Universal Government, I appreciate your aid but your sizes are gigantic. No one on NS can afford the type of ships you have.

IC:

General Shackleton ponders the threat from Benicius in his War Room.

"So, the Empire does not like our becoming involved in a war with Dimmimar?" Shackleton questioned his long time aid Major James Garcia.

"Sir, their President believes that we are attacking Dimmimar without justification, although I don't see how murdering millions of civilians and forming a coalition against our region isn't justification enough," Garcia seemed a little bewildered at Benicius' threat and told Shackleton "However, they don't appear to be a major threat and our approval ratings are very high, with the exception of this nation."

General Shackleton smiled.

"Very well, thank the President for paying attention to the incoming war but we do have reason for this invasion. Tell him that our reasons are humanitarian and we will not occupy Dimmimar."

Shackleton finished his order then proceded to look over documents concerning his war.
Shinoxia
21-02-2004, 02:34
OOC: The soldiers will arrive in 2 RL days. Each Fleet escorts 25 transport ships, Arctic Fox transports. I'll post specs and pics on them tomorrow, along with other important things, but I want to make sure Dimmimar is playing first.
Shinoxia
21-02-2004, 03:37
up
21-02-2004, 04:10
/He looks, but does not see
He listens, but does not hear
He asks, but does not know the right questions/
Shinoxia
21-02-2004, 04:14
A Friend you are making me paranoid. I know your goal is to drive me insane, well you did.
Euroslavia
21-02-2004, 04:15
The Universal Government is prepared to offer in assistance to this war :

NAVAL


3000 Delta Class SSBN Sub's

1000 Typhoon Class SSBN Sub's

800 Kirov Battle Cruisers

500 Ohio Class SSBN Sub's

300 Nimitz and Enterprise Aircraft Carriers

1000 Battleships

400 Destroyers

700 Ticonderoga Cruisers




GROUND/ARMY


M109A Paladin Howitzer

Scud Launcher

AH-64 Apache Longbow


AIR

50 Avro Arrow

25 Mig 29

28 Mig 21

50 Mig 25

80 Mig 31

100 Mirage f1 fighters

that isn't a godmode :roll: :roll:
Dancing Moose
21-02-2004, 04:19
NAVAL


3000 Delta Class SSBN Sub's

1000 Typhoon Class SSBN Sub's

800 Kirov Battle Cruisers

500 Ohio Class SSBN Sub's

300 Nimitz and Enterprise Aircraft Carriers

1000 Battleships

I do thank Universal Government for his support, but this amount of ships is insanly enormous, and I recommend that he size it down just a bit.
Shinoxia
21-02-2004, 04:28
bump it. :D
21-02-2004, 04:35
Could Shinoxia provide evidence of Dimmimar being a direct threat which justifies this war?

(on the SLOA Haters regional forum, Dimmimar states that the region would not survive if they struck at Shinoxia and therefore there is no current threat)

Is Shinoxia waging a pre-emptive war?

We encourage a peaceful solution, and do not approve of this invasion which we have no guarantee of the SLOA's future withdrawl. How can anyone trust Shinoxia will not subjugate the people of Dimmimar?

(just trying to get information in the situation and would appreciate it if we were told the truth)
Shinoxia
21-02-2004, 04:42
You'll just have to take my word that I will not enslave the people of Dimmimar. I cannot make you believe so you'll you just have to think what you want, Benicius.

General Shackleton
Orchestrator of Shinoxia
21-02-2004, 07:13
President Benicius II accepts Shinoxia's word and hopes the current treaty between our two great nations continues in the future. For now, Dimmimar is to be left up to the forces of SLOA haters.

We accept that they seek to destroy you and leave Shinoxia to its war which it shall no doubt win.
Shinoxia
21-02-2004, 17:33
Shinoxia thanks Benicius for their support and waits for Dimmimar's reply.
Dancing Moose
21-02-2004, 18:31
Once again, Fleet Admiral Ross stood on the deck of Flagship/Battleship, the DMN Barham (Great Lakes Class). He pleasantly recalled the times when the great Dancing Moose Navy was mobilized and deployed and then quickly recalled because Headquarters had recieved information indicating the enemys surrender. He grimaced at these thoughts. He thought: 'If our great leader could just imagine how well this fleet would do in action......... hopefully it will finally get to battle the adversary it deserves, even if that adversary is strong or not.' He made a sort-of hopeless chuckle at this thought, and strolled back into the ships briefing room.

Ross:
So Captain, are we ready to get underway....

DMN Barham's Captain Daniels:
Yes sir, In fact, I believe we should be pulling out in about 10 minutes.

Ross:
Excellent. Have we recieved any new information from headquaters?

Daniels:
No sir, but we keep recieving these damn status reports every half hour...

Ross:
Well, all I can tell you is once we get to these coordinates...(Ross hands
Daniels a slip of paper...)... to be ready for a coded signal from home base.

Daniels:
Heh, its one of those 'top-secrets' again isnt it.... they have a habit for those...

Ross:
Im afraid so Captain, but do not worry, you will be informed of the mission soon, as well as the men. All you need to do is notify me of any any new information.

Daniels:
Sir, what have I been doing all these years?

Ross:
Thats the spirit!


I am sending in the first of 5 naval attack squadrons to give aid to Shinoxia's forces... This squadron consists of:

1 Black Pearl Class AC (the DMN Nemisis)--carrying with it:
50 F-15F Sky Eagles
20 F-22 Sea Raptors
20 F-16SF Super Falcons

3 LA Class Attack Subs
2 Seawolf Class Subs
10 Amundsen Class Destroyers (5 carrying 5 AH-64H Apache Crossbow choppers)

2 Ticonderoga Class Guided Missile Cruisers
2 Great Lakes Class Battleships
1 Hellfire Heavy Crusier
2 Weathered Torpedo Boats
1 Arsnel Class Stealth Missile Ship
2 Submarine Tenders
6 Large Fleet Auxillaries

These should arrive in a relatively short amount of time lets say, 2 NS days; 4-5 RL hours.
Dancing Moose
21-02-2004, 19:12
^up^
Dancing Moose
21-02-2004, 21:24
My first attack forces is 1 hour (NS time) outside Dimmimar territorial waters.
22-02-2004, 01:04
Secret IC: President Larry Walker informed the greedy land hungery mognilian like nations of Antartica that Ubber will be going to war with Dimmimar. He also enformed them that there troops where both welcomed and encourged to be there. 2 million men have been moliblized. subs and ships will escort Antartic ships through Ubbers waters.
Dancing Moose
22-02-2004, 01:11
The first attack squadron has arrived in Dimmimarian territorial waters but has incountered no resistance so far.

A second attack squadron led by Admiral Sagumo is being dispatched from Dancing Moose home waters to eventually meet up with the first attack squadron. This fleet consists of:

2 Modified Stealth Nimitz Carriers--carrying with them the following aircraft:
50 F-22 Sea Raptors
75 AV-8B Harrier II's
35 Talon F-96 Joint Strike Fighters

1 Great Lakes Class Battleship
1 Ross Class Hybrid Super Carrier/Battleship (Battle-Carrier)
1 Huron Class Battlecruiser/Command Ship
2 Ticonderoga Class Guided Missile Cruisers
2 Nightstalker Class Destroyers
2 Spruance Class Destroyers
2 Arsnel Class Stealth Ships
10 Amundsen Class Destroyers (carrying 10 AH-64H Apache Crossbow choppers)

1 Special Operations Sub (Seahorse Class)
3 Virginia Class Attack Subs
2 Sub Tenders
8 Large Fleet Auxillaries

Will arrive in 2 NS days--5 RL hours....
Ayur
22-02-2004, 01:36
Stand your hate march down or face the wrath of the Insurgents of Ayur. We will not tolerate this 'Superhero' type image that Shinoxia is trying to impose on us. We fully support Dimmimar, although our Government will not support us. The Sacred Triangle will act and justice will be done. Do not march.

http://img21.photobucket.com/albums/v62/Nazguul101/Ayur_Leader.jpg
Ibn Al-Sadikh Mohammed
Head of all Ayurian Sleeper Cells
Dancing Moose
22-02-2004, 05:43
We will not tolerate this 'Superhero' type image that Shinoxia is trying to impose on us.

OOC: Shinoxia is not trying to impose anything upon you. This war is modeled out of pure reason, it is not unprovoked or uncalled for. If you attack Shinoxia in any way, it will be considered a sheer act of terror and will be delt with accordingly by me, Shinoxia, and fellow Antarctic nations until all of your sleeper cells have been completely destroyed.

P.S.- Bump.
Dancing Moose
22-02-2004, 17:52
It seems that Dimmimar has attempted to leave his 'beloved' region and will soon be on his way to the West Pacific. My two attack squadrons that I sent, however, are awaiting enemy forces in Dimmimars home waters. Dimmimar, please respond to these attack forces or I will be forced to attack your home land with a series of naval bombardments.

In the case Dimmimar gets to the West Pacific soon, if it is necessary, my fleet is prepared to set sail for that region, which is not that far away from Antarctica.

Dimmimar, you have been warned.
Ayur
22-02-2004, 20:49
We will not tolerate this 'Superhero' type image that Shinoxia is trying to impose on us.

OOC: Shinoxia is not trying to impose anything upon you. This war is modeled out of pure reason, it is not unprovoked or uncalled for. If you attack Shinoxia in any way, it will be considered a sheer act of terror and will be delt with accordingly by me, Shinoxia, and fellow Antarctic nations until all of your sleeper cells have been completely destroyed.

P.S.- Bump.

OOC: What makes you think that you'd ever find them all? If you actually bothered to pay attention when I put up my info you would know that my member base is 2,000,000 and change. As Ayur's population grows, so do the terror cells. The government and the people have nothing to do with this group.

Attack the nation or attack the civilians, you're just giving the terrorists what they want: Complete control under fear.
"You see what happens when you ask for help?" they'll ask.
You can use (and expend) as many of your (and your foolish friends') resources as you want and still never silence my cells. You're idiotic if you do.
Dancing Moose
22-02-2004, 22:01
Well, if you insist on using your 'sleeper cells', all im going to tell you is their attacks will most likely be ignored by me and Shinoxia, as terrorist tactics such as this are extremely hard to RP in that when they attack it is always impossible to counter it :roll:. Goodbye.
Dancing Moose
22-02-2004, 22:09
If you actually bothered to pay attention when I put up my info you would know that my member base is 2,000,000 and change.

Oh, and by the way, why dont you read your original post yourself. You never stated the amount of partisans in your cells.

Stand your hate march down or face the wrath of the Insurgents of Ayur. We will not tolerate this 'Superhero' type image that Shinoxia is trying to impose on us. We fully support Dimmimar, although our Government will not support us. The Sacred Triangle will act and justice will be done. Do not march.
23-02-2004, 01:26
It seems that Dimmimar has attempted to leave his 'beloved' region and will soon be on his way to the West Pacific. My two attack squadrons that I sent, however, are awaiting enemy forces in Dimmimars home waters. Dimmimar, please respond to these attack forces or I will be forced to attack your home land with a series of naval bombardments.

In the case Dimmimar gets to the West Pacific soon, if it is necessary, my fleet is prepared to set sail for that region, which is not that far away from Antarctica.

Dimmimar, you have been warned.

This is an outrage! I advise Dancing Moose that as the UN Delegate for West Pacific, if you enter this region, then you will be stopped in defence.

It would appear Dimmimar has fled to this region and I am not able however to eject him from West Pacific. However, I will not tolerate an invasion of West Pacific and will order full mobilisation of regional forces if need be.

SHINOXIA: Under the treaty we both agreed to you are obliged to stop Dancing Moose if he attempts to invade West Pacific which Benicius currently presides over. An attack on the region we are representing is an attack on Benicius.

"----Defence Agreement----

1. That the two parties, Shinoxia and Benicius agree to assist one another in the event of a third party declaring hostilities on either."

If West Pacific is attacked, then we shall have no choice but to defend against the SLOA.

Please take our advice and end hostilities, as peace is better than war.

The Government of Benicius is deeply disappointed in Dancing Moose's actions.

President Benicius III, Benopolis.
Dancing Moose
23-02-2004, 02:09
OOC: Calm down, Benicus, its ok, there was no need for all of that... remember I said if it is necessary, I will attack Dimmimar in the West Pacific. Im sorry to have overlooked the fact that the West Pacific is your region. Let me explain, what I said about my forces being in Dimmimarian home waters i ment they were in his home waters, while he was still in the SLOA haters region. It takes time to move a nation, so I figured I could still hit him while he is based in the SLOA haters region.

Just so you know, I think Shinoxia would have a stronger friendly position with me since after all we are and have been fellow nations ever since we started NS.
23-02-2004, 02:27
OOC: Calm down, Benicus, its ok, there was no need for all of that... remember I said if it is necessary, I will attack Dimmimar in the West Pacific. Im sorry to have overlooked the fact that the West Pacific is your region. Let me explain, what I said about my forces being in Dimmimarian home waters i ment they were in his home waters, while he was still in the SLOA haters region. It takes time to move a nation, so I figured I could still hit him while he is based in the SLOA haters region.

Just so you know, I think Shinoxia would have a stronger friendly position with me since after all we are and have been fellow nations ever since we started NS.

No, you will not enter or wage war against any nation in West Pacific. I make that clear now. Shinoxia is bound by treaty to stop you. If Shinoxia does not, then there will be serious consequences. I will not tolerate a war in West Pacific.

Dimmimar is now fully in West Pacific. Under no circumstances will you enter West Pacific or wage war against any nation in this region.

I will look at trying to eject Dimmimar from West Pacific in the meantime.
Dancing Moose
23-02-2004, 02:46
Im sorry to have overlooked the fact that the West Pacific is your region.

OOC: Pay attention next time, Benny old boy. It will save you the trouble of typing unnecessary points.

Benicus, there is no reason for this treaty to come into play (I doubt it would ever since me and Shinoxia are so closely bound allies). I made the above mistake and I apoligize. There is no reason to raise hell on this, I am not going to attack the West Pacific. The only thing thing I want is Dimmimar, and im not going to go through you and your region to get to him.

Your pesistance in wanting to blame me for threats I mistakedly imposed on Dimmimar (in your region) indicates to me your high desire to have me taken off of the face of this earth. I do not myself understand this, although I assume you have your reasons.

I am now issuing a formal apology to the nation of Benicus and his region for threats on my enemy, Dimmimar, who has held himself up inside that region.
23-02-2004, 04:57
The Empire accepts Dancing Moose's apology and is most pleased the threat of war has been discontinued.
Wolfish
23-02-2004, 05:05
tag.
26-02-2004, 19:34
Our intelligence analysts have discovered a plot to launch a second wave of offensives against the nation of Dimmimar. Shinoxia and an unknown number of other Antarctic nations, have already expressed their willingness to participate in this renewed attacks despite efforts towards peace. We cannot and WILL not stand idly by while war is continually waged in our backyards. I wish to speak with the representatives of Antarctica to discuss peace terms, the nations of West Pacific will not tolerate the risk of war being spilled across their own borders. Let us stop this conflict, before it evolves into a full-scale regional war. I will be awaiting your replies. If you haven't been following our regional affairs, I have been appointed the UN regional delegate, I now speak on behalf of the great nations of West Pacific.
27-02-2004, 02:22
I assure the honoured members of the Snowy Lands of Antarctica that Eastern Democracies does not speak on behalf of all nations within West Pacific.

As many will well know, the UN Delegate has no authority in making decisions on behalf of a region.

Those nations who are not members of the UN are not subject to those who are.

I urge the nations of the SLOA not to take Eastern Democracies threats as the voice of West Pacific.

For the main, most of us are peaceful nations and I for one have seen no proof of the SLOA planning an attack against West Pacific. I would ask for proof from Eastern Democracies as would others. You cannot make such claims without evidence.

We further deplore Eastern Democracies use of its UN position to threaten others and make statements on behalf of this region. It is common knowledge that a UN Delegate deals solely with UN matters. This matter is not one of them.

Since Shinoxia and Dimmimar are non UN members I see no reason for Eastern Democracies to even get involved. This supposed war is not a UN matter, so why is the delegate getting involved, using their position to make accusations and threats? Also, Dimmimar's region "SLOA Haters" and the regional factbook entry "Death to Shinoxia" would suggest terrorism. If so, then why would Eastern Democracies protect a terrorist state? This is quite outrageous and we condemn Eastern Democracies for these actions.

It is disgraceful to see UN positions abused in such a manner.

The Empire is certain a peaceful solution will be found, but urges Eastern Democracies to stop fueling hatred by abusing the position of UN Delegate.

President Benicius III
28-02-2004, 03:34
So I take it that this war is over?
Thuthmose III
28-02-2004, 03:35
A war? Can we join in?
Dimmimar
28-02-2004, 11:14
OOC:WTF :shock:

I.C:
Any further attacks on Dimmimar will be taken as an act of war. If you do not stand down your forces then we will be forced to retaliate.

Secret I.C:
1st-20th regiment are being mobilized.
1st-4th sea regiments are being mobilized.
All defences are being put online.
Aust
28-02-2004, 11:21
Aust supports Shixtonia asks for a diplomatic soloution. Dimminars region has already been concured by me and his forces routed, thus their is no need for for conflict.

Emperor Justin of Aust
Dimmimar
29-02-2004, 20:58
OOC: You'll have to accept the fact that my nation is around about near future tech[2040]...

I.C:
In the depths of space, the sattelite crusier The Hope, opens it's pods.

The pods all land in the midst of the Dancing Moose fleet. The nearby village of Graumstrung-which was evacuated a week ago- is completely destroyed.

OOC: The 80 pod bombs are each filled with a sizeable amount of explosives. The charge also has a localized EMP blast which detonates on contact. This charge has a radius of 300 metres [which means that it will also affect the ships even if the explosives do not explode...].
Dimmimar
29-02-2004, 21:20
I'll give this a bump. :P
Iuthia
29-02-2004, 21:43
I've left this alone because I'm unsure exactly what is going on... afterall, Dimminar's regime has already been changed previously.

As such we condemn all attempts to further de-stablise this nation after their previous war. Why don't you guys go and train your men or something... or have a war game...

This is both late and pointless. Not to mention devoid of any diplomacy which should be exuasted before war is even concidered...

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Shinoxia
01-03-2004, 01:44
Dimmimar, is there any way you could down tech your military, I'm 2005 tech. If you continue to stay future Moontian will do most of the fighting for the Snowy Lands.
Aust
01-03-2004, 17:52
I've left this alone because I'm unsure exactly what is going on... afterall, Dimminar's regime has already been changed previously.

As such we condemn all attempts to further de-stablise this nation after their previous war. Why don't you guys go and train your men or something... or have a war game...

This is both late and pointless. Not to mention devoid of any diplomacy which should be exuasted before war is even concidered...

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Their is a histroy about this, Dimminar was a member of SLOA, however, (Correct me i'm wrong) He was offencive to them and went and created a region called SLOA Haters. For a long time their was a cold war between us (SLOA) and them (SLOA Haters), supported by Aust and many other large nations (SLOA) and Wolfish (SLOA Haters) Their where many threats and when I joined the region it was at boiling point, on the verge of war. I have to admit, it may have been my act that forced war, I planted a puppet in SLOA Haters, and then once I knew the pass, took Dimminars region over. Ejecting him, their was some arguements about this and I balive this is why the conflit developed. War was almost inevitable as threats went on (Like, Ow my Axillary heads,' Rape, Shixtonia sucks Dancing mosses cock', thread on the SLOA forum.) And anyway it seems to me Dimminar started the war off with his attack.

Sorry about this ramble, but I thought it was important for people to know a basic background to the conflict. Aust still remains on SLOA's side but has not yet opened hostilatys or moved troops.
Iuthia
01-03-2004, 19:58
In which case I want to see diplomacy exhausted first... I've just yet up a embassy in Dimminar to help me keep an eye on the situation, the last thing I want is for someone to carpet bomb it.

So I'll keep this simple. Iuthia is going to be NEUTRAL in this affair, at least in the sense that we won't actually support one side more then the other initially.

However, if my embassy is so much as damaged I will be very anoyed about it... whats more I want a full explanation of why he's going to war (other then he's killed tons of people, it has been established that was the previous regime...) along with attached proof of any specific events that have caused this war...