NationStates Jolt Archive


A cheap and non-dangerous Heroin Substitute discovered

19-02-2004, 10:17
In the heart of the northern Amazonian Rainforest in the territory of the Xavanté tribe, Outer Amazonian botanical scientists from the capital- Manuas have discovered a heroin (or opium) substitute. Curiously, according to the scientists, they found that the Xavanté tribe had been smoking the drug for centuries and had not suffered any dangerous side-effects that are usually expected from a drug on the same scale as heroin.
The scientist took it back to their very derilict and incredibly underfunded headquaters in Manuas, along with several memebers of the Xavanté tribe and tested the drug in it's injected form. The tribe-memebers all experienced exactly the same sort of side-effects as heroin and other tests show that it did not harm them mentally and physically as heroin does.
This new heroin substitute has been mass grown and is ready for shipment for any heroin stricken nations that need it.
However, Outer Amazonia is only willing to give out this substitute if something is given in return. Any of the following technologies will do:
- Up to date automobile technology,
- proper biotechnological facilities.
any of these must be accompanied by half a ton of gold bullion.
19-02-2004, 10:42
Do you not feel that the techonology and the GB you are asking for is a little over the top for a heroin substitute, i feel we need to make a deal, how about we work out a price for this heroin substitute, obviously the effects of this drug world wide will be susbstantially devastating to drug rings and smugglers world wide, shall we say about 2500* per kilogram? a say 100 kilograms, thats 25,000*, with that the you could by the techonology.

(ooc) * is the symbol for aztec gold pieces aztec gold being the currency of my nation, the exange rate is 234 american $ to the 1 aztec piece which will bring our deal to about $5, 850, 000
Civil Disobedients
19-02-2004, 10:51
You have to consider though more than the physical side affects, i mean when someone is addicted to heroin they just don't care about anyone or anything they will do anything for a hit, this makes them a danger to themselves, those around them and society at large.
19-02-2004, 10:52
HAIL TO THE RODENT/DWARF ALLIANCE
Zvarinograd
19-02-2004, 10:53
With or without bad side effects, an euphoric drug is still subject to abuse. People will still sell their lives for the sake of these narcotics, this does not help criminal activity either. The United Communist States of Zvarinograd questions the integrity of these scientists, as to consent with this self-inflicted destruction and asks, if it isn't too much, to reconsider mass producing and selling this drug to the public.

Premier Alexey Zvarinsky,
United Communist States of Zvarinograd
19-02-2004, 10:59
we are meerly interested in aquiring such a drug for military purposeses, a stimulant to enhance the ability of our troops, the substance has become available, we are not interested in selling it to the public or indeed where it came from or how it is manufactured, we would just like 100 kilograms for the money suggested before. no questions asked. if you like we can arrange a meet and conduct the deal.
Civil Disobedients
19-02-2004, 11:03
we are meerly interested in aquiring such a drug for military purposeses, a stimulant to enhance the ability of our troops, the substance has become available, we are not interested in selling it to the public or indeed where it came from or how it is manufactured, we would just like 100 kilograms for the money suggested before. no questions asked. if you like we can arrange a meet and conduct the deal.

I can assure you heroin will NOT enhance the ability of your troops.
19-02-2004, 11:07
this drug is not heroin, this is drug x, it has no name, and its effects are unknown, i am sending an expert out to amazonia now to inquire upon ths drug, we have reason to believe it wil have some millitary use, we will inform you personally if we find it to be any use for troop enhancement and maybe we too can come up with a deal
Civil Disobedients
19-02-2004, 11:12
this drug is not heroin, this is drug x, it has no name, and its effects are unknown, i am sending an expert out to amazonia now to inquire upon ths drug, we have reason to believe it wil have some millitary use, we will inform you personally if we find it to be any use for troop enhancement and maybe we too can come up with a deal

:lol: no, sorry, if it's a heroin substitute the implications are that it's results are similar if not identical to that of heroin.
19-02-2004, 11:15
ok i'll be honest, it would be a boost to our economy to aquire such a drug which we could research and perhaps replicate in mass manufacture, the consequences of this we had maybe not thought of in the long term more the short term boost to our economy.
19-02-2004, 11:39
Wintrees sees this drug as no different to Heroin. In turn, like our other drug policys, if this substance is found in our country Outer Amazonia will be held responcible, this will lead to a purge of your country.
19-02-2004, 11:50
Yes, this drug needs to be researched by a neutral country who has no intention of reproduction or destruction of this drug. if is found to have negative effects or indeed if it is used or abused with addiction or anything worse, the we will mobilise our special attack force into the nation and destroy the cache and all around it, this could well be used to fund terrorism. it needs to be researched
19-02-2004, 14:31
All your crictisms have been taken into account by the current provisional government of Outer Amazonia and this heroin sustitute was massed produced by the without the authorisation of us.
However, the side-effect of this drug are positive rather than negative rather than that of heroin and has already been used as a prototype to cure the heroin addiction of 56 Amzonian heroin addicts.
This drug is rather like a nicotine patch used to give up cigarettes
So, I beg you to reconsider your decisions.
We are only trying to find a way of putting our economy onto its feet.
So, if you are willing to test out this new found substitute with a 98% guaranteed cure rate (Outer Amazonia figures only), let me know and I'm sure we can agree to a comprimise. If you would like a full shipment, i still would like advancements in automobile technology or advancements in proper biotechnological facilities. We are a friendly harmless nation who are not trying to harm the population of any country but are trying to reduce one of the worlds most prominent problems.
19-02-2004, 14:31
All your crictisms have been taken into account by the current provisional government of Outer Amazonia and this heroin sustitute was massed produced by the without the authorisation of us.
However, the side-effect of this drug are positive rather than negative rather than that of heroin and has already been used as a prototype to cure the heroin addiction of 56 Amzonian heroin addicts.
This drug is rather like a nicotine patch used to give up cigarettes
So, I beg you to reconsider your decisions.
We are only trying to find a way of putting our economy onto its feet.
So, if you are willing to test out this new found substitute with a 98% guaranteed cure rate (Outer Amazonia figures only), let me know and I'm sure we can agree to a comprimise. If you would like a full shipment, i still would like advancements in automobile technology or advancements in proper biotechnological facilities. We are a friendly harmless nation who are not trying to harm the population of any country but are trying to reduce one of the worlds most prominent problems.
19-02-2004, 14:35
My troops have been mobilised, they are nearing your vicinity, please destroy the drugs cache or my attack force will be entering the area the drugs are and we will be destroying them by force, and we will eliminate all resistance, it is for the good of the world and relevant nations, it is too great a risk to let another drug on the scene, we have allready seen the effects of methadol in society. this is a warning.
19-02-2004, 14:57
2 WZ-551 APC's with The Golden Valley Heavens Star Symbol painted on the side role up through the forests, a squad of 10 men in each, recruits from old delta force missions who were selected by comanders who have fought in numerous campaigns. the drugs factory draws near in sight and despite warnings the factory still seems to be producing the drug patches they had been requested to destroy.
the armoured personell carriers ploughed on through the undergrowth of outer amazonia travelling upstream at one point using the vehicles amphibious abilities because the road was blocked, still no resistance but at the gates of the factory they were met by tribes people armed with more than just spears and arrows as was expected of amazonian tribes men.
Drop your weapons and move out of the way, let us pass, we do not want conflict we merely want the drugs destroyed. or we will have to use forceful measures.
19-02-2004, 15:01
Look... "Ouvidó é ça fé", or "cut the crap" in your language...
If you had read my message properly, you would know that the drug has been tested and has been revealed to be very similar to a nicotine patch and will not harm the taker.
Also, if u had read my message you would know that it has a 98% guaranteed cure rate. This means that there is no danger of addiction, as it is a drug that will eaze the addiction of heroin and means that the user will eventually not need the drug anymore...
So if you want to solve your own drug problems, and eventually the world's drug problems, I suggest you start cooperating politely...

Ricardó de Lima oú Caíxa
The Head of the Outer Amazonia Provisional Government
19-02-2004, 15:05
"please move out of the way, or we will need to remove you!"
one of the squads get out of their WZ-551 APC and take up offensive positions while the other WZ-551 APC moves to crash through the gate and the tribesmen guarding it.
19-02-2004, 15:05
"please move out of the way, or we will need to remove you!"
one of the squads get out of their WZ-551 APC and take up offensive positions while the other WZ-551 APC moves to crash through the gate and the tribesmen guarding it.
19-02-2004, 15:20
Look Joe, just read my message properly and stop being a bellend.
Anyway, if you really want to crush my sustitute drug factories (which wont happen, as they're not just in one place and your pitiful forces cant reach the heart of the jungle, its too sophisticated) i have the alliance of the much more powerful country NeoPhyrexia (led by Craig Barrie) who is willing to fight for the diminishment of heroin worldwide and wont let a petit-bourgeouise type country like yourself to stop it.
Think about what your doing.
Ricardó de Lima oú Caíxa
The Head of the Outer Amazonia Provisional Government
19-02-2004, 15:30
the sky turns black and in unevitable amazonian weather climates starts to rain turentialy (sp), the squad outside the WZ-551 APC open fire on the area of the resistant tribes men, flashes of light in the dark, not knowing whethere anyone was hit or not they fire again and again, the second WZ-551 APC starts its engines and drives through the front line of defending tribesmen aiming at the gate, though the gate is stronger than expected and takes several tries to take it down. the WZ-551 APC enters the compund and the 10 man elite squad inside embark and enter into a fire fight.
19-02-2004, 15:49
Ok, I'll play it your way:
2 platoons of mercenaries from my ally NeoPhyrexia, burst out of the 'makeshift' heroin substitute factory aaccompanied by rebel guards (who helped gain the independance of Outer Amazonia from Brasil) and open fire on the 10 man elite squad. They then throw 4 grenades under the WZ-551 APC and watch it explode.
Dont mess with world salvation
19-02-2004, 15:54
the 2 Stridsvagn 121 - Leopard 2A4's open fire aw bararge upon the factory hearing the impacts of the shells they put up smoke and conceal the introduction 5 AH-4 ird military transport helicopters who fly over the are and drop off the men, 200 tanks from leopald VI role into the vicintiy in support!
19-02-2004, 16:05
50 troops leave the helicopters and enter straight into the fire fight taking down men with almost every shot, the elitest squads who were pinned down were now free to infiltrate the base, seek out the drugs cache and to destroy them.

(ooc - sorry 200 tanks from leopald woz a little ott, he didnt send that many it was a spare of the moment thing, theres only 5 of them, yeah lol)

the 5 tanks from leopald VI thundered on towards the compund followed by 3 empty WZ-551 APC's that were left in support. the 5 helicopters flew past again and dropped of yet another 50 men into the battle, as it waged on the forces knew time was of the essence and that they were taking too long and taking casualties.

what was left of the elitest squad sent up laser signalling devices given them by Jahwe and the Stridsvagn 121 - Leopard 2A4's got the ok and fired sophisiticated laser guided shells at the factory taking it out right. the drugs were destroyed, but the fire fights loomed on and it was time for extraction
19-02-2004, 16:06
The Rebel Guard Faction open fire with AK-47 and old-fashioned anti-aircraft machine guns on the over-flying helicopters and damages 1 or 2 of them, the damaged helicopters flyer back to base, while the battle ensues on the ground.
being stretchereThe injured tribesmen of the Xavanté tribe are d away into the jungle by village women. The mercenaries begin to push the Golden Valley forces back to the gate but is also suffering light casualties.
19-02-2004, 16:14
leopalds tanks role up to the compound and open fire on the mercenry division. the WZ-551 APC's take in 30 men and 10 get into the last remaining WZ-551 APC which was not destroyed, leaving the wreckage of a WZ-551 APC destroyed by grenades. 4 helicopters move in leaving the damaged on behind they pick up 34 men between 3 and the fourth picks up the 3 survivors of the elitest strike force. leopalds tanks create cover fire as they withdraw and the Stridsvagn 121 - Leopard 2A4's fire a few more shells into the compound to cause melee, the extraction is complete and the Heavenly Stars of The Golden Valley get outta there!
19-02-2004, 16:15
leopalds tanks role up to the compound and open fire on the mercenry division. the WZ-551 APC's take in 30 men and 10 get into the last remaining WZ-551 APC which was not destroyed, leaving the wreckage of a WZ-551 APC destroyed by grenades. 4 helicopters move in leaving the damaged on behind they pick up 34 men between 3 and the fourth picks up the 3 survivors of the elitest strike force. leopalds tanks create cover fire as they withdraw and the Stridsvagn 121 - Leopard 2A4's fire a few more shells into the compound to cause melee, the extraction is complete and the Heavenly Stars of The Golden Valley get outta there!
19-02-2004, 16:15
leopalds tanks role up to the compound and open fire on the mercenry division. the WZ-551 APC's take in 30 men and 10 get into the last remaining WZ-551 APC which was not destroyed, leaving the wreckage of a WZ-551 APC destroyed by grenades. 4 helicopters move in leaving the damaged on behind they pick up 34 men between 3 and the fourth picks up the 3 survivors of the elitest strike force. leopalds tanks create cover fire as they withdraw and the Stridsvagn 121 - Leopard 2A4's fire a few more shells into the compound to cause melee, the extraction is complete and the Heavenly Stars of The Golden Valley get outta there!
19-02-2004, 16:51
You already know that you did barely touch any drugs of any kind let alone my subsititute heroin (patch) prototype which is bound to diminish the world of it's heroin problem (one day). You just managed to destroy a whole Xavanté Tribe settlement and a doctors surgery with a prototype sample of the newly discovered drugs to try and help native heroin addicts off the heroin and onto the new drug which has already started to help vast areas of Manaus - the capital of Outer Amazonia. So wat the surgery was behind gates, doesnt mean that its a drugs factory). Anyway I will cut to the chase:
A musty white van drives up in front of the now destroyed doctors surgery and 3 members of the Amazonian Rebel Guard Faction jump out and bundle 5 injured members of the Golden Valley force into their van and drive off.
***The Golden Valley Government then the next day receive a telegram from the provisional government of Outer Amazonia***
it says:
"WE ARE NOT HARMING YOUR SOLDIERS WE ARE JUST SUBJECTING THEM TO TESTS FOR OUR HEROIN SUSTITUTE PROTOTYPE WHICH HAS A 98% GURANTEED CURE RATE. WE ARE TESTING TO SEE IF OUR SUBSTITUTE DRUG WORKS ON OTHER RACES. WE ARE NOT GOING TO LET GO THE DESTRUCTION OF THE XAVANTÉ SETTLEMENT AND WE WILL ONLY GIVE BACK YOUR SOLDIERS IN RETURN FOR APOLOGY AND A PLEDGE THAT YOU WILL NEVER ENTER OUR NATION WITH FORCE AGAIN"
Civil Disobedients
19-02-2004, 19:28
All your crictisms have been taken into account by the current provisional government of Outer Amazonia and this heroin sustitute was massed produced by the without the authorisation of us.
However, the side-effect of this drug are positive rather than negative rather than that of heroin and has already been used as a prototype to cure the heroin addiction of 56 Amzonian heroin addicts.
This drug is rather like a nicotine patch used to give up cigarettes
So, I beg you to reconsider your decisions.
We are only trying to find a way of putting our economy onto its feet.
So, if you are willing to test out this new found substitute with a 98% guaranteed cure rate (Outer Amazonia figures only), let me know and I'm sure we can agree to a comprimise. If you would like a full shipment, i still would like advancements in automobile technology or advancements in proper biotechnological facilities. We are a friendly harmless nation who are not trying to harm the population of any country but are trying to reduce one of the worlds most prominent problems.


Im choosing to ignore everything in this thread after the quoted text, as i think Golden Valley was just being an idiot.

I would like to know exactly how the affects of this heroin substitute are positive?! Unless it's nothing like heroin? As the affects of any substance giving the sort of hit and addictive qualities as heroin we consider a serious danger to society.

Also, in what way do you imply that it cures heroin addiction? I was under the impression that there was no cure for addictions only things that can ease the transition.
19-02-2004, 19:51
(ooc - civil disobediants, sorry if you feel i woz being an idiot but it has been a while since me and my mate matt, the amazonia bloke rp, we were just remembering and getting back into it. sorry if our little battle caused you any offence)

The Golden Valley here by issues an apology statement to those effected by the raid on the Xavanté Tribe settlement, we regret to inform you that inside information played a crucial part in justifying the raid, we had reason to believe you were not telling the truth, indeed, we also regret having disbelieving you because it is aware that much innocent blood was shed, this is and official apology to the nation of Outer Amazonia

Yours in faith, The Golden Valley