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how about a engine that runs on magnetism?? its cheap,less polution and its safe......... basicly its just a magnet that will repel the vech off the ground and when you tilt it slightly it will move forward?? just like a helicopter...... but if you want to stop, just off the magnet and use your normal engine ( Nuke,air,water, diesel etc.)... the rest i will update once i get a idea.

you mean like a bullet train?

Interesting Idea, If you can prove how it works just as well and is cheaper we will invest money in your research should you bother with it.

no i mean its a good you can put it on a heavily armored/armed Bomber and wont stall due to repel of the magnetic supporters under the bomber. aka you can make a flying battle ship.

our scientist is hoing to create this . for the use of our automobile.

http://matriculated.altervista.org/animatrix.jpg

I believe something like this is already being done in theory. Look up gyrospcopics and magnetism and gyroscopic locomotion.

or something like that

It would be difficult to generate the necessary magnetic force required to lift a bomber that high...

yep but i am trying to expand the idea. "the forgotten power" (magnetism)

It would be difficult to generate the necessary magnetic force required to lift a bomber that high... of course make a bigger better one : D well you can use it on tanks. think about it. Mine proof can easily glide across minefield HA HA HA ..... well.... you cant blame me and my scientists for trying to create new tech : / of course the source of repel from the engine is the earth's gravity.

It would be difficult to generate the necessary magnetic force required to lift a bomber that high... of course make a bigger better one : D well you can use it on tanks. think about it. Mine proof can easily glide across minefield HA HA HA ..... well.... you cant blame me and my scientists for trying to create new tech : / of course the source of repel from the engine is the earth's gravity.

Wouldn't the fact that mines are metal or have metal components make a magnetic levitation tank MORE vulnerable to mines?

It would be difficult to generate the necessary magnetic force required to lift a bomber that high... of course make a bigger better one : D well you can use it on tanks. think about it. Mine proof can easily glide across minefield HA HA HA ..... well.... you cant blame me and my scientists for trying to create new tech : / of course the source of repel from the engine is the earth's gravity.

Wouldn't the fact that mines are metal or have metal components make a magnetic levitation tank MORE vulnerable to mines? repel you see, earths gravity pulls the mine down but the engine i am thinking of repels the earth's gravity force. ( the more powerful the repel the higher/faster you go)

bump.

But it would push against the Earth and the metal in the mines, putting pressur on them.

And a mine under pressure is a bad thing.

good point. meh cant blame me for trying.

Actually, i think his vehicle would zoom over a mine field rather quickly.
It's the intensity and pressure that sets a mine off, his vehicle would'nt spend that much time over a mine to make it go off. It's not much more different that a hover craft, this magnetic thing..

^yeah thats what i need speed!!

^yeah thats what i need speed!!

Well maby you should add an engine that pushes the vehicle forward. Kinda like a hovercraft, maby a small jet engine or something :D..

^ good idea. i think i will begin the research right away.

*Cheers,claps and decides to peek at your results*

Heres some stuff:

-megneticaly fused mines, cheap and easy to build
-requires massive amounts of energy to creat an electro-magnet strong enough for the job.
-stalling over rough terrain
-obstacle crossing limitations
-meuneuverability?
-logistics (Its not easy carrying multi-to magnets around the battle field for repairs)

Heres some stuff:

-magneticaly fused mines, cheap and easy to build
If you where to consider all that can go against you, nothing would be built :D

-requires massive amounts of energy to creat an electro-magnet strong enough for the job.
I think that cold whats it's name can fix that :?

-stalling over rough terrain
It will be like a hovercraft *nods*

-obstacle crossing limitations
All vehicles have that :D

-mauneuverability?
Like a hovercraft, but i think this will be easier to handle

-logistics (Its not easy carrying multi-to magnets around the battle field for repairs)
Hmm well here you have a valid point, but i guess like any other vehicle. It will have a crew that can fix minor things, and a service crew that does the rest.. :D

alright then, how about soldiers with pace makers, come up with a soultion for that :D ! No, seriously, what about megnetic disruption to targeting and communications systems. Also, the magnetic field would be easy to target in any battle field conditions. Theyd make easy targets to targeting systems set up for magnetic detection (cheap and easy to build again).

alright then, how about soldiers with pace makers, come up with a soultion for that :D ! No, seriously, what about megnetic disruption to targeting and communications systems. Also, the magnetic field would be easy to target in any battle field conditions. Theyd make easy targets to targeting systems set up for magnetic detection (cheap and easy to build again).

*LOL* your determind to crush his idea huh?, i don't think the makers of the M1A1 thought "hmm those guys are sure to have nasty missiles and bombs, lets not build this tank".

I think he'll work things out as he goes along :D, like the makers of the Churchill tank wrote in their manual "we know this vehicle is'nt perfect"

Yes well the makers of those two great tanks used tried and true technology in the form of mechanical propulsion. The gas turbine and diesel engines respectively, have been around for a long time.

Yes well the makers of those two great tanks used tried and true technology in the form of mechanical propulsion. The gas turbine and diesel engines respectively, have been around for a long time.

See it like this dude, it's not your money he is spending on this project :D

I cant argue that point, ill keep my eye on this thread, but im out!

I cant argue that point, ill keep my eye on this thread, but im out! meh what can i say? your a nazi. atleast i have some creativity : D

bump.

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Don't use a jet engine, seriously, that'd be the most idiotic thing ever. Not only would it give the AIM-9 Sidewinder an anti-tank use, but it would make it easy as hell to detect. Also, be careful with large guns. With very little friction, firing something like a tank cannon will send this thing flying in the opposite direction of whatever it aims. I'm not saying this won't work, it just won't work as a real tank... Too many things make it easily detectable and easy to kill.

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Don't use a jet engine, seriously, that'd be the most idiotic thing ever. Not only would it give the AIM-9 Sidewinder an anti-tank use, but it would make it easy as hell to detect. Also, be careful with large guns. With very little friction, firing something like a tank cannon will send this thing flying in the opposite direction of whatever it aims. I'm not saying this won't work, it just won't work as a real tank... Too many things make it easily detectable and easy to kill. simple just turn the engine to the opposite and it will be attracted to earths gravity.

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Don't give up now *S*, if not a jet engine. There is always air pressure or water jets, to propel it

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Don't use a jet engine, seriously, that'd be the most idiotic thing ever. Not only would it give the AIM-9 Sidewinder an anti-tank use, but it would make it easy as hell to detect. Also, be careful with large guns. With very little friction, firing something like a tank cannon will send this thing flying in the opposite direction of whatever it aims. I'm not saying this won't work, it just won't work as a real tank... Too many things make it easily detectable and easy to kill. simple just turn the engine to the opposite and it will be attracted to earths gravity.
While that makes no sense, I know what you're trying to say. That'll just make your tank a huge target and screw up any thermal/IR sights.

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Don't use a jet engine, seriously, that'd be the most idiotic thing ever. Not only would it give the AIM-9 Sidewinder an anti-tank use, but it would make it easy as hell to detect. Also, be careful with large guns. With very little friction, firing something like a tank cannon will send this thing flying in the opposite direction of whatever it aims. I'm not saying this won't work, it just won't work as a real tank... Too many things make it easily detectable and easy to kill. simple just turn the engine to the opposite and it will be attracted to earths gravity.
While that makes no sense, I know what you're trying to say. That'll just make your tank a huge target and screw up any thermal/IR sights.i aint no making a tank the size of titanic. i mean its heavier as in more armor and can hold 2-4 guns

how about a engine that runs on magnetism?? its cheap,less polution and its safe......... basicly its just a magnet that will repel the vech off the ground and when you tilt it slightly it will move forward?? just like a helicopter...... but if you want to stop, just off the magnet and use your normal engine ( Nuke,air,water, diesel etc.)... the rest i will update once i get a idea.

[ooc]Geomagnetic drives are like Perpetual Motion machines-they're great in theory, but in practice...
Well...
In a "Futuretech" game if you come up with acceptable bullshit for why it works (Commonly called "Baloneyium" here in the PNW), and use long words that don't really mean a whole lot-along with obscure math, you can make it easier for people to suspend disbelief.

Umm, gravity and electro-magnetism are two different forces. I'm tempted to explain the real-life-based technology used in my stratocruisers, but you're lible to steal it, and then I'd have to glass you, and no one wants that but the generals in charge of strategic assets, and no one listens to them because they're all nuts anyway.

I'd sugest you use jet turbines or anti-gravity tech for lift, and don't even think about tanks with 'more armour and 2-4 guns'; they tried multipule heavy guns back during the world wars, and like battleships with mixed calibre main armaments, they were proven to be a bad idea, and more armour only makes you more of a target, as you now have more mass to haull around with your limited propulsive power.

I'd sugest your 'flying tank' take on the role of a robust helicopter gunship, with a main armament of missiles to negate the massive recoil involved with anti-tank gun systems, and overall lighter mass and armour(ie a light or medium tank, weight-wise). Really, a flying tank is an obvious target, and obvious targets get dead fast if they hang around too long; that's why modern tanks try to minise their profile by being squat, harder to hit targets. If you're going to be flying around, you want to be able to avoid being hit as much as possible, and get out of dodge ASAP when you have to, hence light tank/helicopter-esque gunship.

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Don't use a jet engine, seriously, that'd be the most idiotic thing ever. Not only would it give the AIM-9 Sidewinder an anti-tank use, but it would make it easy as hell to detect. Also, be careful with large guns. With very little friction, firing something like a tank cannon will send this thing flying in the opposite direction of whatever it aims. I'm not saying this won't work, it just won't work as a real tank... Too many things make it easily detectable and easy to kill. simple just turn the engine to the opposite and it will be attracted to earths gravity.
While that makes no sense, I know what you're trying to say. That'll just make your tank a huge target and screw up any thermal/IR sights.i aint no making a tank the size of titanic. i mean its heavier as in more armor and can hold 2-4 guns
You don't understand. When I say a huge target, I'm speaking in modern terms, which means anybody with Thermal imaging will pick that thing up miles away. Like an aircraft in terms of heat signature, but easier to hit and slower.

You don't understand. When I say a huge target, I'm speaking in modern terms, which means anybody with Thermal imaging will pick that thing up miles away. Like an aircraft in terms of heat signature, but easier to hit and slower.

But is'nt any vehicle like that?, i mean IR signatures is'nt easy to design away for land based vehicles

Most land based vehicles do not have mulitple jet engines, he isn't exactly thinking about the fact that his tank won't have the speed of an F-16, but a thermal signature twice as large as one.

Well i thought our friend here was'nt going to use jet engines, nor make it that big :) . How far along are you SA??

aye this project is cancelled : ( now putting money on building up nukes.

Aww what a shame, you really had a good idea there :?

you can adopt this idea if you like. BUT put my countrys name/logo there : )

you can adopt this idea if you like. BUT put my countrys name/logo there : )

Thanks, i'll think about it. :D

woot someone to complete my dream!!! and if you make it give me 30-50% discount too :X lmao well you decide.

woot someone to complete my dream!!! and if you make it give me 30-50% discount too :X lmao well you decide.

*BOL* actually ATM i'm trying to get the time to complete a versitile vehicle for urban combat or police actions..

lol.... how about a tank?? :X for that? anyways i will try and help.

*LOL* nah it's not a tank, the shame is i seems to have lost that thread. I think that design thread has gone bye,bye..

Hey, why not use magnets to create an electromagnetic shield for field use? It'd repel missiles and bullets......
Contact me for funding, as i'm UN delegate of a region, and can probably pull some votes :D

hmm GREAT IDEA. 1 prob how does the theory works??? if the shield is activated, will it tear the tank/ other objects apart?

The tank won't really be able to use it's weapons, or any electromagnetic signals won't go out (Radio, Radar)...

hmm might as well put ECM on tanks. : /